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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every day a week ago. Click yours up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You'll finish for y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Done morning, everybody, it's the j n V. Just hilarious,
Charlamagne to God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
a special guest in the buildiness. Indeed, be g welcome home, man,
welcome back.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Man. I'm I'm I'm feeling good man like I'm blessed. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You heard.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I can't complain, man, I'm good man, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good to see you, brother, fresh off the verses.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's right, day man, fresh off the vers I was
that shelter it was it was incredible, man like it was.
It was a good moment, man, Like something like that
couldn't have happened, you know, twenty years ago, you know
what I mean? Like, so you know, for all us
to be on stage, you know, at the same time,
(00:48):
and and and and it just be you know, love
and and and fun. And you know what I mean,
like for us to just give it, you know, to
the people, and with even how bad would that deep?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I want to say your energy, your energy was very
infectious that stage because you sold New Orleans. So for me,
when I'm watching you on that city, I'm just watching
you celebrate the city. I wanted to even when no
living music was coming on.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You, I couldn't help myself. I couldn't help myself, man,
because I'm a fan, you know what I'm saying. I'm
a fan of mag I'm a fan of me. I'm
a fan of fiend. Like you know, Soli just slimming,
that's my brother free see murder. Like you know, so
I just was, I just was in the moment, you
(01:35):
know what I mean, Like you know, even though we
was battling, like it was certain records that came on
where I just couldn't help my like.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
How bad it was to be because you know I'm
from New York. He from South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, from Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Year so how bad was it? Because I want to say,
like they didn't they never thought it could happen.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you know back in the days, man,
like you know that that that that mag know your
you know Calio beef was real. You know what I'm saying,
it was It was. It was really real, man. And
I don't want to you know, just going to you know,
the specific the specifics of it, right, but you know
it's it's you know what I'm saying, it's some people
(02:16):
that died, right, you know what I'm saying on both
sides or whatever, you know what I mean. But yeah, man,
it is what it is, man, you know what I mean.
And you know, for us to be able to come together,
you know, after all this time and make that happen,
and then not only that, man, like you know, they
didne reached out to us for the No Limit Cash
Money tour. Man about that, you know, like, man, we
(02:39):
I'm man, let's check bag.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Came heard bag? Yeah, I heard they heard about a documentary.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Magnolia Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, Like it's a lot of opportunities
that presented itself. But yeah, I was on the phone
with with with with with ag yesterday. You know what
I'm saying, ain't talking about you know what I mean,
A bag And yeah, like we're gonna we're gonna close
that out and make that.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Happen, and the tour definitely gonna hit New Orleans because
you know people it was mad yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, nah it But you know it's complex kind
of right, you know what I mean. So you know,
I think if it would have been in New Orleans,
it would have been Yeah, it would have been could
it have happened?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Because they were saying that it couldn't happen because maybe
the violence.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
But I was like, nah, nah no, it would have
been just as it would have been, just as fun
and and and you know, just as incredible as it
was in Las Vegas. Man. But I think you know
that it should have been in New Orleans. But you know,
it happens. So now that they see, you know that
that it could happen on a level to where it
(03:50):
ain't no BS involved, you know what I mean, Now
we could you know, move on and make things happen
on another level. So it's all good?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Wow, th't Wayne there? That's the question everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I talked tod Wayne yesterday, man, and and I talked
to Wayne in the morning before, right, you know what
I mean, the morning before the versus, and you know,
sure it wasn't feeling good man, you know what I mean.
So you know, because he had a concert that dress
the same night and he canceled that as well, you
know what I mean. And Swiss was you know, even
(04:25):
hurt behind it, right, you know what I mean, because
for real, for real, you know that's the reason Swiss
pulled the trigger on it. You know what I mean,
because Wayne, you know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Like come on, I mean, you know, Shorty, you know
what I'm saying. Like, sure, you know Shorty right, you
know what I'm saying. He got muscled right, So but yeah, man,
(04:48):
I think it was you know, shure it wasn't feeling
good because he definitely was supposed to be there, you
know what i mean. So you know he he he
told me that, you know, he wasn't feeling good and
you know he had to go to the hospital or
something like that, you know what I mean. So you know,
people be thinking that it was you know whatever, whatever whatever.
(05:09):
But at the end of the day, like I told him, Man,
wa ain't spring chickens no more? Man, you know what
I mean. So you know, you gotta make sure, man,
you're healthy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You know, get your rest. Man, You've been running thirty
thirty five years strong. You know what I'm saying. So
you gotta make sure, you know, you get your resting.
You know, make sure you know what I'm saying that
show you no body and help just all the wind
tag or whatever whatever, But yeah, it was it was
I think that was the reason that you know short,
(05:40):
it wasn't there. He was dealing with some personal issue.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
And we'll get the sea Wayne on the tour, if
the tour happens with Wayne.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I mean, you know that I can't answer that, you
know what I mean, Like, I really can't answer that,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, sure to Pole,
don't be on what's sure to be on. You know
what I'm saying. So you know I would love to
see him out there with us, you know what I'm saying,
and on the tour. And you know, I don't think
you know that that sure they'll turn down you know
(06:11):
the bag that's on the table, but then you know
them they already rich forever. You know what I mean.
I'm playing ketchup, you know what I'm saying. So you
know I'm trying to clock at all. You know what
I'm saying. But yeah, man, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
When you and Wayne, Wayne were coming up. And the
reason I say you and Wayne cause I don't know
if even people know. First time I got introduced to
anything cash money related with baby gangsters, no fact, no
fast and Wayne when y'all were coming up, did y'all realize, man,
this could be what it turned out to be?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Third Absolutely not, absolutely not, you know what I mean,
Like you know, we we we just was doing it
for the love of the music, for real life. You know,
at that point, we was kids, man, you know what
I'm saying, Like you know, Wayne was eleven, you know
I was, you know what I mean, like we couldn't
see this far. You know what I'm saying, like we
we we really couldn't see this for you know, that
(07:07):
was a vision. You know that that that Baby and
slim Head, you know what I mean. And you know
they was you know, trying to come out the streets,
you know what I mean, and you know, try something different,
and you know what I'm saying, like, you know, change
our lives, you know, through the music or whatever whatever.
But you know, if I was to stay there, I
saw you know, us being who we became. Like you know, nah,
(07:33):
I didn't see that far.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Or break down that vision because what what did Baby
and slim see in each one of y'a Because y'all
were young, ten years old, twelve years old? Juvenile was young?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Really him and Wayne, that's why I keeps you. I
want to stretch that because that brotherhood to me is
the foundation.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah that's a fact.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
What did he see in y'all? And how did he
find y'all to say this is the start?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, you know, baby and Slim no more my mom
all right, you know what I mean? And you know
I don't be wanting to, you know, put it out
there like that or whatever whatever, But you know my
mom My house was a stage house like where you
backing the g You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So you know what I'm saying. Like you know, moms
(08:19):
used to have bricks in oven, you know what I'm saying,
Like for bibb and Slim like way and eighty eight,
eighty eight, eighty nine, you know what I mean. So
I knew bib and Slim since I was you know,
in elementary school, you know what I mean. And then
when I started you know, writing raps and things of
that nature, and they had started cash money in like
(08:40):
what ninety one ninety two, you know what I mean,
And they heard I was, you know, rapping or whatever,
and my baber stand called them like man little wood,
he wrap up, blah blah, blah blah, you know what
I'm saying. And they come to the barber shop and
they like hold on man that sense, like you know
what I'm saying, and I wrap form and you know,
they put me in a car and brought me, you
(09:02):
know to my mom and was like, man, we're gonna
change his life. Man, like, you know, let us take him.
My daddy had just got killed, you know what I'm saying.
And you know I was out wildland. You know, I
ain't had no guidance or whatever whatever. So you know,
Babyman Slim took me un there they wang and you know.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
The rest history how Wayne getting the picture.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Wayne came into the picture. I think it was like
ninety ninety four ninety five man Lie Slim, who was
an artist on Cash Money Records, you know what I'm
saying at the time, and you know he yeah, he
(09:42):
he introduced you know, Wayne to Cash Money and to
a Babyman Slim, you know, to check him out or
whatever whatever. And you know, he came to out Sit
Records one time we had an autograph signing or whatever,
and Wayne spit some things to him and then like
you know, baby and Slim, you know, put me and
(10:04):
Wayne together and formed a group called the Beg's which
is the Baby Gangsters. And you know that was the
first album you know that me and Wayne dropped together
in like nineteen ninety four. Nah, that was ninety four.
That was ninety four, Yeah, ninety four, we came with
the True Story album. It was me and Wayne, you
know what I mean. And then Rest in Peace the Rabbit,
(10:26):
you know what I'm saying. Wayne Stepdaddy, you know what
I'm saying. Who ended up getting killed? You know, he
wanted to start his own record label, you know what
I mean, and he ended up taking Wayne, you know
from the label. You know what I'm saying. It was
going to invest his own money and Wayne, and then
he ended up getting killed, right. And then in like
ninety six, you know, ninety seven, you know Missie the
(10:50):
let Wayne come back, you know, to the label. And
then that's when we formed the Hot Boys around Me,
Trouvire you know, Wayne and Turk, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
How did that brotherhood between you and Wayne, like that
brotherhood before the fame, How did that shape y'all as
artists and as men?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Man like man bro we man man. Wayne used to
be writing raps together in my mama kitchen, you know
what I mean, Like you know, baby, or lock us
in the house, you know I'm talking about, Like he'll
get many fresh to make a beat and literally, you know,
lock us in the house while they going out and
(11:32):
run errands and stuff and make us, you know, write
songs to this one beat, you know what I'm saying.
And then you know he'll come back and listen to
what we had and you know be like that, ain't it. That?
Ain't it? That ain't it? And you know, tear our
wraps up, like but keep this, you know what I'm saying.
And yeah, man, like he just tore this my ship
(11:54):
up like writing all day, you know what I'm saying.
But he like I mean, it was like Miller Seri.
It was like it was like a military school man.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Created you know, the the it created something. It created monsters, man,
you know what I'm saying. Like you see Wayne have
became you know what I mean, Like you know, and
and yeah, it's just just the work ethic. It created
a work ethic that's just undeniable.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And Birdman was like a father figure to both of y'all.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Absolutely I heard you call nah, Absolutely, absolutely he raised me,
you know what I'm saying, Like he he pretty much
raised me, man, you know what I'm saying. Him and
Slim Man they raised me man from from from from
from twelve or nothing. Man, Like you know, I gotta
give them all the credit. Many they raised me, man.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And that's why I like, I like talking about cash
money because you know, of course everybody knows what Wayne does.
Everybody knows what, but there's no cash money without BG.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you know, you know, I
mean cash money was built on my back, man, you
know what I mean, Like when when when you think
about it, you know, julid first feature was on my
chaper City album. You know what I'm saying, Like you
know from you know, BG, True Storage, chaper City. It's
all on you volume one, It's all on you volume two,
you know, till we formed the Hot Boys in nine
(13:15):
and seven. But they get it how you live and
you know, so forth and so on with the Soldier
Rags and this that and the third. But yeah, I
was I was, Yeah, yeah, I was him, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, in the documentary after all that, in the documentary, right,
you talk about how hard it is to stay relevant
while you're locked up in your way for the amount
of time that you did.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Did you think it was over for you while you.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Were did I did?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I did? Like when when? When? When the judge gave
me them fourteen years? Like, you know, it's hard to
stay relevant and it's rep thing for for for a month,
you know, six months A yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
If you ain't really yeah, it's not for a vicious
of violent crime.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You know, I didn't give fourteen years for violence gun
man guns and structing justice. I really got ten years
for the gun, fourteen years for the fructing justice, you
know what I mean. But you know when I got
them fourteen years, I was like, damn, it's all you
know what I'm saying, my career, Like I couldn't see
the end, you know what I mean. And then, you know,
(14:17):
social media started popping and Instagram started popping, and you know,
it was ways to you know, stay relevant. You know
through social media that really helped me, you know, staying
tune with the fans and things of that nature. And yeah, man,
I'm back. And not only that, I was attached to
(14:38):
a brand you know that stay relevant, you know, throughout
that time, you know what I mean, Because at the
end of the day, yeah, absolutely, like Stunner was there,
Like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Nah, Stunner was there.
You know, wis it was shouting me out and you know,
the whole gang or whatever whatever. But if it wasn't
for if it wasn't you know, for social media, who knows,
(15:02):
you know what I mean? Like because yeah, man, yeah
say that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Because you know jay Z won't say that. If everybody
in your click is rich, your click is rugged, nobody
will fall because everybody will be each other's crutches. I
would think even with fourteen years no fact, Wayne, I
mean Wayne became Wayne in those right right, like they
was all still in the mix.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
They were still in the mix. And not not only
that though, Like you know, at the end of the day,
I can't tell my story without telling these stories, right,
you know, Jupiter can't tell his story without telling my story.
Wayne can't tell his story, you know without telling my stories.
So you know, we all joined at the hip, whether
we like it or not, you know what I mean,
(15:45):
Like our legacies are all you know what I mean,
Like like one, you know what I'm saying, so you
know that I think that benefited me too.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
What do you think that era taught you about loyalty
and ownership?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Mmm? Man, I mean it taught me to be on
your be on your Yeah, you know what I mean,
because you know it's it's a lot of things that
I had to come home to. You know what I'm saying,
that I had to fix your day for us. You know,
having people around me, you know that was around me
(16:22):
for all the wrong reasons, and you know what was
doing things that you know I wasn't aware of. You know,
that had me in situations that you know I didn't
choose to be in. But you know they was doing
crooked you know how I go. Man, You know what
I mean. So, yeah, it taught me a lot, man.
And now I'm on point now man.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Now what's your release?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Is it true that every lyric that you rap now
or right now you have to send for approval?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So so so I definitely I saw I have to
turn it over to my pill, you know what I mean,
like they they don't get to approve because when I
first came home, or the when I did the album
with Gucci, Man, when I first came home and and
wapped it a tape together, right, and they tried to
(17:15):
violate me and send me back to jail for that,
you know what I mean. And I was like, damn, like,
you know, like what's up, Like I ain't did nothing
but what I've been doing, you know what I mean.
So they were saying that they didn't want me doing
nothing pertaining to entertainment or nothing pertaining to music that
(17:38):
I could make money off of, you know what I mean.
So it was like wow, damn, like yoh, they like,
I don't I didn't understand it. And that's why I
thought it exactly, like I've been doing this since I
was thirteen years old, like, and you're trying to send
me back to jail for just simply trying to make
a living, you know what I mean. So the judge
(17:59):
agreed with me and said it was a violation of
my freedom of speech, you know what I mean. And
but but she did say that I had to turn
over the lyrics to my probation officers before I made
them available to the public, you know what I mean.
So I still, you know, have to turn my lyrics
over to my probation officers before I make them available
(18:22):
to the public. But she don't have to approve them
or nothing. But I still be having to just you know,
be mindful of what I say and how I said.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You can't put this out.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Nah, they ain't gonna lie. Or they've been. They've been.
They've been working with me like they've been. They've been,
they've been. They've been giving me, they've been, they've been
giving me my they've been giving me my space and
letting me make it. And I got a good po man, like,
and I ain't got number like two months left, you
know what I mean. I haven't done everything I was
supposed to do the right way. You know, I ain't
(19:00):
feel no drug says I did and did all my
or my community service. You know, I didn't completed all
the programs you know that they you know, wanted me
to complete. Like so everything is everything, man, And I'm grateful.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
They want you to drop a gospel.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
He listen, not because in the beginning or like, they
didn't want me rapping about guns. They didn't want me
rapping about snitches. You know, they didn't want me rapping
about I'm talking about you know, everything that I've made
a living off, like my whole career. Like and I'm like,
hold up, Like I ain't the first one to rap
about it. I ain't gonna be the last one to
rap about it. Like what you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I can't rap about this, this, that, and the third
Like come on, like it's only entertainment, you know what
I'm saying, Like I ain't no different from Denzel Washington
playing Frank Lucas, like I'm Christopher Dorsey playing BG. Like
it's only entertainment. You see what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You even still have to play that anymore? Because I mean,
you're you're a wiser man now, older, you got a
lot of life experiences, non facts, and you've always been
you know, vivid with depending story facts. But do you
even have to lean into that anymore?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Not? Not not really, Like I just I just pretty
much I just pretty much tell my story, you know
what I'm saying, And you know, rep about what I see,
rep about what I go through, rap about what I experience,
and you know, just try to keep it authentic, man,
and try to keep it real.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Know when you first in the documentary, you talk about
when you first came home and you tried to go
to Vegas, versus staying in New Orleans because you just
knew it wasn't good for you, and they denied that
at first. Yeah, and then you had the conversation with
your prosecutor for two hours, but you don't tell us
what the conversation really entailed in the documentary. So I'm wondering,
Like you said, it went well, but like, what what
did you say to him or her? And what did
(20:53):
they respond back with that? God did approval?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I mean basically, you know, I just told them that,
you know, I felt like my life was in jeopardy,
you know if I went back to New Orleans, like
I felt like it wasn't safe for me, you know
what I mean. And I told him that I needed
a new start, you know what I mean. And I
wanted a new start, you know what I'm saying. And
I just didn't want to go back to the city,
(21:18):
man like, because you know a lot of the dudes
that I left was still out there doing the same
things that I left him doing, you know what I'm saying.
So you know, I just wanted a fresh start, and
he agreed with me. He agreed with me, and they
gave me a pass and let me go. You know,
start a new life in Vegas. So I went to Vegas, syce,
(21:39):
you know, and everything worked out for me.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
That should be common sense, though you're asking that.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah for real, for real, because if I would have
went back to New Orleans, I probably would be already
back in jail, you know what I mean, Like if
i'd have went back to the city. You know what
I mean, Like, if I'd have went back to the city, man,
I already be back in jail right now. Man, you
know what I mean. I mean, like I couldn't go
back to the city.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
One thing I like about you too, You've always been
open about your drug addiction. Did did jail help you
get clean?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No? Not absolutely, because when I left, you know, I
was a lean head. You know, I was a pill
popping animal, like you know, syrup sipping, you know, so hoigh,
you couldn't reach me with an antena like like on my wing.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Like.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
But yeah, not heroin too.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Not.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I ain't did heroin since twenty twenty, since twenty old two,
twenty three, you know what I'm saying. But you know
I had started popping pills and drinking lean and like
oh four five, like when a hurricane hit you know
what I mean. So, yeah, I didn't. I haven't done
a heroin since like two thousand and two, two thousand
(22:49):
and three, I kicked heroin, but then I picked up
another opiate, you know what I'm saying. And you know
that I learned that that just was a substitute for that,
you see what I'm saying. So yeah, man, I'm jailed definitely.
You know, help me, you know what I'm saying. Just
shake that all the way, all the way, all the way.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Do you know what you might have been trying to
escape when you were doing those drugs?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Just just just just you know, the man, it's a
lot of pressure. You It's a lot that come with
this industry, you know what I'm saying. It's a lot
that you know come with you know, just the bills
and you know, your family and you know, just trying
to please everybody and just trying to mask, you know
(23:38):
what I mean, like certain things and it's just it
be escape, man, for real, for real like and and
that's why I was away.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
The man, I want you feel hold enough.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Just just just living, you know what I'm saying, Just
just really for real, for real being free. You know
what I'm saying being free, you know, being happy and
being alive. Man, for real, for real, you know what
I mean, because you know I didn't lost a lot.
I Dodnet, lost a lot of good homes along the way,
and and and I know what they could do. You
(24:11):
know what I mean. I was in jail, and you
know I've seen you know, what had been the Juice world,
and I know that could have easily been my story.
You know what I'm saying. You know, I see X
and you know, I like, it's a lot of good men.
You know what I'm saying in this industry. You know that,
you know what I mean. That that then that then
(24:32):
from you know what I mean. And I'm like, damn, man,
that could easily been me, Like that was me, you
know what I mean. Like and you know, jail pretty
much saved my life, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
For real real, I feel like you and X would
have had a great connection. I know y'all did.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, nah, fact that was the bro. That was the bro. Yeah,
absolutely absolutely. I loved the X man like that was
my dog, you know what I'm saying, Like he.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Was ex.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Hey, nah, I got some stories that never keep to
myself yeah, man, I love X man. That was the broke.
That was the broke.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I wanted to ask, you know, before y'all did verses,
did y'all have to have a conversation? Are we seeing
that Gucci and Jeezi had a conversation before versus? Did
y'all have to have a conversation, lay things out or no?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
All sides? Well? Well, home team, And I mean, you know,
me and Klse been working together forever, Like I love KELC,
like you know we we were doing a whole project
together right now. Like Mac is my brother, like I
love Mac, like Mack was on my first album, Chopper City.
You know what I'm saying, fiend my brother like me
(25:43):
and X my sister, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like see murdered my dog, you know what I mean?
Like I don't know, you know the conversation that you know,
bebing p head or if they even had a conversation.
But yeah, I was having conversations with you know, all
the people that I just mentioned before.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You know, we did it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And I'm like, man, listen, man, come on, man, stop
playing man. Let's check this bag. Man. You know what
I'm saying, Let's check this bag. You know what I'm saying,
Let's give it to the people. Let's do it for
the culture. Man, you know what I'm saying, Like it's
just been long overdue and it happened.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And how to be wrong, But I feel like murdered
only no limits money artists to collaborate.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I feel like, and well, me and men collaborated, and
men and me and Freend collaborated. Freend was on my
last album. Yeah yeah, yeah, facts.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
And how bad does the Turk situation hurt? Because it's
it's y'all grew up with each other. Y'all looked in
the same house as you'll told I'm sure s h yeah, yeah, yeah,
miniving travel right, how is that situation that the family
can't be tight?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I mean, man, I mean bro like man, brouh man.
This Internet is poison man, you know, I mean, you
know what I mean, Like you know, it's it's a
crazy place, you know what I mean. And you know
a lot of people, you know, just get caught up,
(27:09):
you know what i mean, like in the likes and
you know, in the followers, and you know, just in
the bs. You know what I'm saying that that come
with it, and you know, everything ain't for everybody, you
know what I mean. And that's just how I feel,
you know what I'm saying, because I come up and
grew up in a time where you know, you you
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try to keep what was private private, you know what
I mean, like, and nowadays it's just like everybody's just
want to just you know what I mean, like, come on, man, like,
what is we doing? Like? Come on man, stop it,
man like? You know what I'm saying, Like were supposed
to be man like, we're supposed to be cancled Like
(27:52):
what is you going? You know what I'm saying, Like
what is you? Like? What is you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Like what's in the like it be throwing me off, man,
But you know it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
If you try to be the bridge, the one to
say you know what to me, be the guy.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
That you've grown you bevore nah facts facts.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I mean listen, man, Like I said, Man, you know
me and Stunt, I got our relationship. You know, I
got my relationship with Julie. You know what I'm saying, Man,
wis they got our relationship? You know? Men? Fresh you
know we got our relationship. You know what I'm saying,
Like t you know he beyond, he beat man, he
(28:41):
beyond what he beyond, And I just ain't on that,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, at the
end of the day, man like it is what it is, man.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
But it always looks good to see all of y'all
who may be trying to front on Turk's roll in
the hot.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And you know,
I mean, don't make me go there.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Man, like you did have the best verse on blank blank.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
On blink blink not Maybe I need a high girl,
you know what I'm saying, Maybe I need a high.
No not. He He's like, like, I ain't. I ain't
taking nothing away from round. You heard me, you know
what I'm saying. But man, roun be shripping now. I
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mean y'all did with y'all was on.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Tour together for a little while, and I saw y'all
in New Orleans. It was a great vibe of there,
but then it was the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He's just be doing goofy ship, you know what I'm saying,
Like he's just for no reason, like like like like
he's just me jumping out there, you know what I'm saying.
With no parachute on, you know what I'm saying, like
for no reasons, like and you know what I'm saying like,
and it's just be like, man, you know what I'm saying, like,
(30:00):
come on, bro, you you got jewn man, you got
fresh Man, you got bird Maid. You know what I'm saying.
You playing with me? You know what I'm saying. And
then you got short in the cut, like don't give
about none of it?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Like, and it's like, bro, come on, you shot yourself
in the foot. You know what I'm saying, like you
and then you constantly shooting yourself in the foot.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
But could he be going through something though?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Like could it be something deeper?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Like you know, man, I don't know. Man, you know
you know, you know, you know behind you know every
you know what they say behind every strong black man
is a strong black woman, right, you know what I'm saying.
And then you know behind every goofy, it's a goofy
free man that's telling them what they're doing is.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I won't trying to go that way, but I do
want to ask you what's one thing you know about
freedom now that you didn't understand back then?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh Man, it's man, it is the most important, Like
because I got my son in here with me right now,
right And when I left the streets, he was eleven
years old. You know what I'm saying, And I come
home to a grown man. You know what I'm saying, Like,
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I come home he twenty two, twenty three years old.
You know what I'm saying, And I miss you know,
the most important years of his life, right, you know
what I'm saying. And you know sometimes you know, he
be doing things and I be like, damn, I can't
even fault him for not knowing what I wasn't never
(31:50):
teach him. You see. You know what I'm saying. So
you know it's it's man, bruh, Like man, freedom is man,
and it is everything. Man. You know what I'm saying,
Like I don't wish you know, jail on my words. Enemy, Man,
you know what I'm saying, because that's not nowhere that nah.
(32:11):
It ain't nothing cool about it, you main, nothing cool
about it. I mean, I know it, come with it,
you know what I'm saying. When you out there living,
you know a certain type of way, you know when
you're doing certain type of things. You know what I
mean like, you know, you gotta, I mean, it is
what it is, right, you know what I'm saying, and
you gotta take your ligging and you gotta, you know,
(32:31):
move on. But yeah, man, I definitely it's a lot
of things that I wish, you know, that I could have,
you know, took back so I could have been there,
you know what I'm saying, for my family and for
my kids and just for you know, the people that
love me. Man. So yeah, freedom is everything.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
What's dad bej Like? Now your home and you're getting
to be with your son, Like, what are you like
as a father?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I mean, I'm the cool dad, you know what I'm saying. Like,
you know, I try to you know, put my foot
down when this you know what I mean, time to
put my foot down. But also you know I miss
so much time, right, you know what I'm saying to
where it's like, you know, in certain situations, I be
(33:20):
kind of timid, you know what I mean, and don't
be wanting to be too, you know what I'm saying,
like strict or whatever. Whatever. But yeah, man, I'm just
enjoying it. I'm just enjoying it. Man, I'm just enjoying it,
you know, I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You've always been wrong with your music, but you know
now that you're old or wiser, not your freedom. Is
there a part of your story you're more protective of,
like something you'd rather kip to yourself than put it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
In music, not necessarily. Like I've always been an open book,
you know what I'm saying. I've always been an open book.
Like I ain't never really hear nothing, you know in
my music. I always you know, and embrace the good,
the bad, and ugly, you know what I mean. So yeah, man,
and I still keep it that way.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
What was the hardest thing you had to adjust to
when you first came home?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Social media? You know, you know what I'm saying. Social media,
like you know, the the you know, the the DM
in and you know, you getting with females and trying
to take pictures of you.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Now it's differently.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Listen, listen, listen, listen. But I'm glad, you know, I'm
in a relationship now. I got a woman now, you
know what I mean. And I ain't gotta you know,
live like that no more, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, man, it was, it was, it was, it was,
It was it was strange, you know what I'm saying.
(34:56):
It was it was different, like you know, just adjusting
because when I else, Instagram had just thought that you
can only just post a picture, you know what I mean,
like you you couldn't go live, you couldn't do this,
do that, do that, do that? You know what I'm saying.
And then I come home and it's just you know
what I mean, like, you know, everybody got a voice now,
(35:16):
everybody got a old pain. Everybody like it just was
a lot. And you know what I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Got girls that want that fresh out of prison.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Because the.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
People were waiting for BG to be It.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Was like nah, nah facts man. But yeah, I'm heppily.
I'm heapily in a relationship. Man. I think I'm getting
married that ship.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Saying, for real, for real, you know, that's the one.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
She she she she made me feel you know, complete,
you know, she she makes me happy. It's not for real,
(36:13):
for risk real though, man's it's it's it's real, man.
And I ain't never like I've never out of my
thirty years of just wilding and just dugging and just
you know, being a hot boy, right, you know, what
I'm saying, I ain't never like you know, being in
(36:35):
this place, like you know, just mentally, like and physically,
that's a fact. Already.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
You've been looking at rings already.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I've been. I've been. I've been looking at rings already.
I love it, n for real, for real, man.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
How does an artist like yourself, who really come from
the street, who really come from that life, how do
you adapt to this new era without losing your authenticity?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Damn, that's a good question, man, Like, I mean, I
just gotta stay true to who I am, you know
what I'm saying, Like, you know, just as a person
and as a man, right, you know what I mean,
because you know it's just waller down all you man Like,
it's just different, you know what I mean. Like, it's
a lot of things and I just be like, man,
(37:36):
the you know what I mean, I be like, man like,
sometimes I just be want to hang up, like, man,
I'm about to go do see what I'm saying, Like
like I'm about to find because it's it's but at
the end of the day, man, that's what I signed
up for, you know what I mean, That's what I
signed up for. You know what I'm saying, and I
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love a culture. You know what I'm saying, you know,
like like music, you know and repping like you know
it's just in my heart, you know what I'm saying.
And yeah, man, like I ain't gonna let you know
the buffoonery or just the sucker stuff. You know what
I'm saying. Dictate, you know what I'm doing and what
I'm on. So I just stayed true to who I am,
(38:19):
man and keep it pushing.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
My last question, I guess on the documentary is the
whole time throughout the documentary you're talking about how much
or your lawyer talks about how much you wanted to fight.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
From the very beginning.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Facts.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
It's a big fight to have when you went up against.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
The government right now, nah, big facts.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Were you ever scared at any point like yo, this
might go the wrong way because you said you felt
like they were putting you in that position because you
wouldn't cooperate with it, right right?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Nah? Absolutely, Like I mean I was, but I knew
I didn't do anything wrong, you know what I mean,
Like I knew deep down inside you know that I
didn't do nothing wrong. Like like it's music, like like
you gonna lock me up for some raps, like come on, man,
(39:06):
like make that make sense, you know what I mean.
Like so you know, like I told him and then man,
I paid you a hundred grandmar you know what I'm saying,
Like you better go ahead and man, make this make
sense for me. But you know, at the end of
the day, like yeah, nah, I just wouldn't lay down
like you know, because at the end of the day,
(39:28):
you know, I felt like if if if I laid
down and then I seen what Doug was going through.
You know what I'm saying in his case, you know,
with them using his lyrics against him. You know, I
seen other artists you know go through you know, whether
it was c Murder or mag or you know this
one or that one. And I'm like, man, nah, manna,
(39:50):
I ain't no because I ain't there nothing but with
some rabbit, you know what I'm saying, Like just cause
you don't like it, you know that, don't make it
you know wrong, Like you know it's rock and roll
all this that talking about chilling me mamas, and you
know what I'm saying, doing all type of wow stuff.
You see what I'm saying. So you know you trying
to ridicule me and and nah, nah, nah, I ain't
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laying now like that, man, because I ain't dead nothing.
You know what I'm saying. I ain't did nothing, but
I'm just trying to make a living and I'm just
telling my story. And at the end of the days
on entertainment, so I had to go with my move
and you.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Had Lana and then Tasha. I know she's here with
you fighting for you as well from returning back. Sorry,
I'm sorry, Tracy, Tracy fighting hard for you. And they
were in the documentary talking about them choosing to fight
for you during the time where you said a lot
of people kind of like backed away. What did that
teach you about relationships and valuing relationships because they didn't
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get nothing out of supporting you.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I mean, you know you you you you always find
out who who who love you for you? Like you
know what I'm saying, you know, like you know people people, man,
people love you when it's beneficial for him, right, you
know what I'm saying, Like and you know it's man,
(41:12):
I could go on and on about that whole you
know what I'm saying, situation because I didn't experienced a
lot when they come down to that. But you know
they had to wrapped their arms around me for day one,
you know what I mean, since you know the moment
I went to prison to you know, the moment you
know I came down that escalator and they was there,
you know, waiting on me. So you know that that
(41:35):
that goes without saying, you know what I mean, that
they was gonna stand with me and fight with me,
you know what I mean? But yeah, man, it just
sees you a lot about you know people. But I
ain't come on, man, like I already know it, Like
I ain't knew of this. You know what I'm saying.
I'm true to this, So it's like I already know
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what it is.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
So when you've seen both sides of loyalty from the
business and the street side, and just you know, given
your people, Like what's harder for giving somebody who crossed
you or forgiving yourself for like the choices you might
have made.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Mmm, I ain't lying, man, You not forgive, but I
don't forget, right, you know what I'm saying. Like, you know,
I know a lot of people feel like that, right,
you forgive, but you don't forget. You know what I'm saying,
and you know, it just make you wiser, and it
make you smarter, and they make you you know, picking
(42:30):
shoes to people that you know, you choose the you
know have around you in the future, right, you know
what I mean, Like it gives you a better you
know what I'm saying, Like it gives you a better
sense of the type of people that you know you
want around you or that you need around you, because
I definitely don't like no yes men around me. You
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know what I'm saying. I need people around me that's
gonna call me on my bs. You know what I'm saying. Uh,
that's gonna check me. You know when I'm you know
what I'm saying, doing something wrong and things of that nature,
because you know, like PEMPSI said, man in his book,
like when you get to believe in you on hype,
you know what I mean, Like that's a recipe for disaster,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, I try
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to keep people around me. That's gonna you know, just
keep me in line and let me know, like, man,
look you tripping you know what I'm saying, or you ain't,
you know what I mean, But it gotta be somebody
that you respect. You know what I'm saying, And that's
why I'm at with it.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Do you ever feel like your story could have been
a warning or a lesson for the next generation.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Absolutely? Absolutely, absolutely, Like don't be like me, be better
than me. You know what I'm saying like that, That's
what I always try to preach. You know what I'm saying,
Like I be going to you know, Drew in our jails,
and you know, when I do my community service, I
be going to the jails and you know, speaking to
the youth and you know, doing you know what I'm saying,
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like what I need to do a give back and
things of that nature. But I just be trying to
tell them all the time. Man, listen, man, don't be
like me. Man, be better than me. Man, I've been there,
done that.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I know where it live. Man. You know what I mean. Like, Man,
I'm telling you man, like it's real. You know what
I'm saying, Like I know a lot of dudes man
that's that's never coming home. Man, Like they're gonna die
in that jone. You know what I'm saying, Like literally,
like they gonna die in that motherfucker. You know. Excuse me.
You know what I'm saying, But like it's it's it's
(44:26):
it's real out here.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
What part of your life do you think you want
this generation to pay attention to the most part of
your life what they learned.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
From the more for real, for real, Like I ain't lying, bro,
man them drugs, broy.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Like you know, and I used to love that cup.
I loved that cup. You know what I'm saying. I
loved it, you know, pomming pills. You know, it was
my escape. You know, it was my safe place, like
it made me. But man, bro, that it hold you back,
you know what I mean, like in a major way,
man Like, it really really hold you back, you know
(45:07):
what I'm saying. So you know, I know you know
it's a look and you know what I mean, Like
you know, it's it's you know, it's part of the
swag and you know all this and all that. But
at the end of the day, man like, man, nah,
where is that you think it kept you from being?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Like?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Man, absolutely absolutely it held me all the way back.
I'm saying, it helped me all the way back. I
think I could have been way bigger. You know that
than I was if if I wasn't torn what I
was doing, right, Yeah? Yeah, yeah, well us you know
what I'm saying, as a whole, like we you know,
(45:44):
we was in the studio just having fun one one night,
you know what I mean, and you know we had
just started, you know, I mean, well we had been
getting money and shining and whatever whatever. And you know, man,
you blinking and you know, you blink blinking and then
Wayne come up with the hook and the rest of
it is in the diction ever in all types of
you know what i mean. So I'm like, yeah, yeah,
(46:05):
but but you and I wouldn't credit myself. I'm ana
credit the whole gang. Man.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
You know what I'm saying, What does healing look like
for BG?
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Healing?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah? I mean you carried a lot, you know what
I'm saying, grief and farceration, Like what's peace look like
to you? Now?
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Man? You know that just you know love man, like
you know, just you know the kids. You know what
I'm saying, like you know my girl, like you know music,
you know what I mean, just you know, doing what
I love Like I mean, yeah, man, that's that's that's
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that's that's pretty much you know what what what healing
look like to me? Man, like just you know, just
just just really for real for it, just you know,
being happy man, and is staying focused, man and staying
out the way for real.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Right, don't give me no answer.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Like New Orleans, I ain't gonna lie man like on
some g you know, and this is you know what
I'm saying me and you're on some G like presentation wise,
you know what I'm saying. I think they probably got us,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, they came,
you know, Camouflyes down. They was, and I was trying
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to get everybody on the same page with the T
Bulls and Reeds.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I want to like, I want to come T's Bulls read.
But song for song like they couldn't handle us, man
like song for song. But presentation wise, they won, man,
you know what I'm saying, Song for song, No, they
never go see us, you know what I mean. But
at the end of the day, you know, it was
(47:58):
a win for the city. It was a win for Louisiana. Man,
it was a win for the culture. Man.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
When you go when y'all going to and your mind
he would be like, I'm getting my get back.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Oh yeah, big nah. That's a fact. That's a fact.
That's a fact. That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Man. Check out Beg's documentary and his deluxe album Freedom
of Speech.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
All yeah, nah absolutely absolutely, Man, I got the man
Bullsik got an album bother come out. Me and Mike
will made it. Got an album bother come out like Man,
I got some Yeah, I got some shit. I got
some yeah coming on the place.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
He's another one who held you down when you was
in prison.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, not bulls it man, bro, I love bull like
that's my brother life from another mother. Like I'm talking
about you know, every holiday, you know, he'd hit my
mama with a bag like you know, hit my kids
with a bag like you know, made sure I was straight.
Every time I called, he picked up like you know,
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Man Boo is like the altar man man like I
ain't even must say enough about round.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
You heard me?
Speaker 1 (49:02):
You know what I'm saying. My man, t I you
know what I'm saying, was there for me like you
know a yeah, yeah, I hear signed Atlantic, but T
I had executive produce the album with me. Yeah, he
was the reason I went over there. Like he orchestrated
the whole play with Craig Kellman and wow, man, you
know what I'm saying, got us a bag and you
know what I'm saying, like yeah, so you know tip
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my brother to you know what I mean. That's a fact.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
I can listen to you talk all day.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Listen man, I love it.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I do want to say love.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Although you went through so much, you know, you do
not look like what you went through like you look good.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I'm happy to see you, Paul.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
You go, nah Man, thank you, thank you man. I
appreciate it, Man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
Always good energy.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Nah big facts.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
It's the Breakfast Club. Thank you for coming here.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Every day. I wake up. Clake your glass up the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
You're finishing, y'all done. H
Every day a week ago. Click yours up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You'll finish for y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Done morning, everybody, it's the j n V. Just hilarious,
Charlamagne to God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
a special guest in the buildiness. Indeed, be g welcome home, man,
welcome back.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Man. I'm I'm I'm feeling good man like I'm blessed. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You heard.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I can't complain, man, I'm good man, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good to see you, brother, fresh off the verses.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's right, day man, fresh off the vers I was
that shelter it was it was incredible, man like it was.
It was a good moment, man, Like something like that
couldn't have happened, you know, twenty years ago, you know
what I mean? Like, so you know, for all us
to be on stage, you know, at the same time,
(00:48):
and and and and it just be you know, love
and and and fun. And you know what I mean,
like for us to just give it, you know, to
the people, and with even how bad would that deep?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I want to say your energy, your energy was very
infectious that stage because you sold New Orleans. So for me,
when I'm watching you on that city, I'm just watching
you celebrate the city. I wanted to even when no
living music was coming on.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You, I couldn't help myself. I couldn't help myself, man,
because I'm a fan, you know what I'm saying. I'm
a fan of mag I'm a fan of me. I'm
a fan of fiend. Like you know, Soli just slimming,
that's my brother free see murder. Like you know, so
I just was, I just was in the moment, you
(01:35):
know what I mean, Like you know, even though we
was battling, like it was certain records that came on
where I just couldn't help my like.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
How bad it was to be because you know I'm
from New York. He from South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, from Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Year so how bad was it? Because I want to say,
like they didn't they never thought it could happen.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you know back in the days, man,
like you know that that that that mag know your
you know Calio beef was real. You know what I'm saying,
it was It was. It was really real, man. And
I don't want to you know, just going to you know,
the specific the specifics of it, right, but you know
it's it's you know what I'm saying, it's some people
(02:16):
that died, right, you know what I'm saying on both
sides or whatever, you know what I mean. But yeah, man,
it is what it is, man, you know what I mean.
And you know, for us to be able to come together,
you know, after all this time and make that happen,
and then not only that, man, like you know, they
didne reached out to us for the No Limit Cash
Money tour. Man about that, you know, like, man, we
(02:39):
I'm man, let's check bag.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Came heard bag? Yeah, I heard they heard about a documentary.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Magnolia Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, Like it's a lot of opportunities
that presented itself. But yeah, I was on the phone
with with with with with ag yesterday. You know what
I'm saying, ain't talking about you know what I mean,
A bag And yeah, like we're gonna we're gonna close
that out and make that.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Happen, and the tour definitely gonna hit New Orleans because
you know people it was mad yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, nah it But you know it's complex kind
of right, you know what I mean. So you know,
I think if it would have been in New Orleans,
it would have been Yeah, it would have been could
it have happened?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Because they were saying that it couldn't happen because maybe
the violence.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
But I was like, nah, nah no, it would have
been just as it would have been, just as fun
and and and you know, just as incredible as it
was in Las Vegas. Man. But I think you know
that it should have been in New Orleans. But you know,
it happens. So now that they see, you know that
that it could happen on a level to where it
(03:50):
ain't no BS involved, you know what I mean, Now
we could you know, move on and make things happen
on another level. So it's all good?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Wow, th't Wayne there? That's the question everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I talked tod Wayne yesterday, man, and and I talked
to Wayne in the morning before, right, you know what
I mean, the morning before the versus, and you know,
sure it wasn't feeling good man, you know what I mean.
So you know, because he had a concert that dress
the same night and he canceled that as well, you
know what I mean. And Swiss was you know, even
(04:25):
hurt behind it, right, you know what I mean, because
for real, for real, you know that's the reason Swiss
pulled the trigger on it. You know what I mean,
because Wayne, you know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Like come on, I mean, you know, Shorty, you know
what I'm saying. Like, sure, you know Shorty right, you
know what I'm saying. He got muscled right, So but yeah, man,
(04:48):
I think it was you know, shure it wasn't feeling
good because he definitely was supposed to be there, you
know what i mean. So you know he he he
told me that, you know, he wasn't feeling good and
you know he had to go to the hospital or
something like that, you know what I mean. So you know,
people be thinking that it was you know whatever, whatever whatever.
(05:09):
But at the end of the day, like I told him, Man,
wa ain't spring chickens no more? Man, you know what
I mean. So you know, you gotta make sure, man,
you're healthy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You know, get your rest. Man, You've been running thirty
thirty five years strong. You know what I'm saying. So
you gotta make sure, you know, you get your resting.
You know, make sure you know what I'm saying that
show you no body and help just all the wind
tag or whatever whatever, But yeah, it was it was
I think that was the reason that you know short,
(05:40):
it wasn't there. He was dealing with some personal issue.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
And we'll get the sea Wayne on the tour, if
the tour happens with Wayne.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I mean, you know that I can't answer that, you
know what I mean, Like, I really can't answer that,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, sure to Pole,
don't be on what's sure to be on. You know
what I'm saying. So you know I would love to
see him out there with us, you know what I'm saying,
and on the tour. And you know, I don't think
you know that that sure they'll turn down you know
(06:11):
the bag that's on the table, but then you know
them they already rich forever. You know what I mean.
I'm playing ketchup, you know what I'm saying. So you
know I'm trying to clock at all. You know what
I'm saying. But yeah, man, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
When you and Wayne, Wayne were coming up. And the
reason I say you and Wayne cause I don't know
if even people know. First time I got introduced to
anything cash money related with baby gangsters, no fact, no
fast and Wayne when y'all were coming up, did y'all realize, man,
this could be what it turned out to be?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Third Absolutely not, absolutely not, you know what I mean,
Like you know, we we we just was doing it
for the love of the music, for real life. You know,
at that point, we was kids, man, you know what
I'm saying, Like you know, Wayne was eleven, you know
I was, you know what I mean, like we couldn't
see this far. You know what I'm saying, like we
we we really couldn't see this for you know, that
(07:07):
was a vision. You know that that that Baby and
slim Head, you know what I mean. And you know
they was you know, trying to come out the streets,
you know what I mean, and you know, try something different,
and you know what I'm saying, like, you know, change
our lives, you know, through the music or whatever whatever.
But you know, if I was to stay there, I
saw you know, us being who we became. Like you know, nah,
(07:33):
I didn't see that far.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Or break down that vision because what what did Baby
and slim see in each one of y'a Because y'all
were young, ten years old, twelve years old? Juvenile was young?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Really him and Wayne, that's why I keeps you. I
want to stretch that because that brotherhood to me is
the foundation.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah that's a fact.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
What did he see in y'all? And how did he
find y'all to say this is the start?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, you know, baby and Slim no more my mom
all right, you know what I mean? And you know
I don't be wanting to, you know, put it out
there like that or whatever whatever, But you know my
mom My house was a stage house like where you
backing the g You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So you know what I'm saying. Like you know, moms
(08:19):
used to have bricks in oven, you know what I'm saying,
Like for bibb and Slim like way and eighty eight,
eighty eight, eighty nine, you know what I mean. So
I knew bib and Slim since I was you know,
in elementary school, you know what I mean. And then
when I started you know, writing raps and things of
that nature, and they had started cash money in like
(08:40):
what ninety one ninety two, you know what I mean,
And they heard I was, you know, rapping or whatever,
and my baber stand called them like man little wood,
he wrap up, blah blah, blah blah, you know what
I'm saying. And they come to the barber shop and
they like hold on man that sense, like you know
what I'm saying, and I wrap form and you know,
they put me in a car and brought me, you
(09:02):
know to my mom and was like, man, we're gonna
change his life. Man, like, you know, let us take him.
My daddy had just got killed, you know what I'm saying.
And you know I was out wildland. You know, I
ain't had no guidance or whatever whatever. So you know,
Babyman Slim took me un there they wang and you know.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
The rest history how Wayne getting the picture.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Wayne came into the picture. I think it was like
ninety ninety four ninety five man Lie Slim, who was
an artist on Cash Money Records, you know what I'm
saying at the time, and you know he yeah, he
(09:42):
he introduced you know, Wayne to Cash Money and to
a Babyman Slim, you know, to check him out or
whatever whatever. And you know, he came to out Sit
Records one time we had an autograph signing or whatever,
and Wayne spit some things to him and then like
you know, baby and Slim, you know, put me and
(10:04):
Wayne together and formed a group called the Beg's which
is the Baby Gangsters. And you know that was the
first album you know that me and Wayne dropped together
in like nineteen ninety four. Nah, that was ninety four.
That was ninety four, Yeah, ninety four, we came with
the True Story album. It was me and Wayne, you
know what I mean. And then Rest in Peace the Rabbit,
(10:26):
you know what I'm saying. Wayne Stepdaddy, you know what
I'm saying. Who ended up getting killed? You know, he
wanted to start his own record label, you know what
I mean, and he ended up taking Wayne, you know
from the label. You know what I'm saying. It was
going to invest his own money and Wayne, and then
he ended up getting killed, right. And then in like
ninety six, you know, ninety seven, you know Missie the
(10:50):
let Wayne come back, you know, to the label. And
then that's when we formed the Hot Boys around Me,
Trouvire you know, Wayne and Turk, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
How did that brotherhood between you and Wayne, like that
brotherhood before the fame, How did that shape y'all as
artists and as men?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Man like man bro we man man. Wayne used to
be writing raps together in my mama kitchen, you know
what I mean, Like you know, baby, or lock us
in the house, you know I'm talking about, Like he'll
get many fresh to make a beat and literally, you know,
lock us in the house while they going out and
(11:32):
run errands and stuff and make us, you know, write
songs to this one beat, you know what I'm saying.
And then you know he'll come back and listen to
what we had and you know be like that, ain't it. That?
Ain't it? That ain't it? And you know, tear our
wraps up, like but keep this, you know what I'm saying.
And yeah, man, like he just tore this my ship
(11:54):
up like writing all day, you know what I'm saying.
But he like I mean, it was like Miller Seri.
It was like it was like a military school man.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Created you know, the the it created something. It created monsters, man,
you know what I'm saying. Like you see Wayne have
became you know what I mean, Like you know, and
and yeah, it's just just the work ethic. It created
a work ethic that's just undeniable.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And Birdman was like a father figure to both of y'all.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Absolutely I heard you call nah, Absolutely, absolutely he raised me,
you know what I'm saying, Like he he pretty much
raised me, man, you know what I'm saying. Him and
Slim Man they raised me man from from from from
from twelve or nothing. Man, Like you know, I gotta
give them all the credit. Many they raised me, man.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And that's why I like, I like talking about cash
money because you know, of course everybody knows what Wayne does.
Everybody knows what, but there's no cash money without BG.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you know, you know, I
mean cash money was built on my back, man, you
know what I mean, Like when when when you think
about it, you know, julid first feature was on my
chaper City album. You know what I'm saying, Like you
know from you know, BG, True Storage, chaper City. It's
all on you volume one, It's all on you volume two,
you know, till we formed the Hot Boys in nine
(13:15):
and seven. But they get it how you live and
you know, so forth and so on with the Soldier
Rags and this that and the third. But yeah, I
was I was, Yeah, yeah, I was him, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, in the documentary after all that, in the documentary, right,
you talk about how hard it is to stay relevant
while you're locked up in your way for the amount
of time that you did.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Did you think it was over for you while you.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Were did I did?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I did? Like when when? When? When the judge gave
me them fourteen years? Like, you know, it's hard to
stay relevant and it's rep thing for for for a month,
you know, six months A yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
If you ain't really yeah, it's not for a vicious
of violent crime.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You know, I didn't give fourteen years for violence gun
man guns and structing justice. I really got ten years
for the gun, fourteen years for the fructing justice, you
know what I mean. But you know when I got
them fourteen years, I was like, damn, it's all you
know what I'm saying, my career, Like I couldn't see
the end, you know what I mean. And then, you know,
(14:17):
social media started popping and Instagram started popping, and you know,
it was ways to you know, stay relevant. You know
through social media that really helped me, you know, staying
tune with the fans and things of that nature. And yeah, man,
I'm back. And not only that, I was attached to
(14:38):
a brand you know that stay relevant, you know, throughout
that time, you know what I mean, Because at the
end of the day, yeah, absolutely, like Stunner was there,
Like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Nah, Stunner was there.
You know, wis it was shouting me out and you know,
the whole gang or whatever whatever. But if it wasn't
for if it wasn't you know, for social media, who knows,
(15:02):
you know what I mean? Like because yeah, man, yeah
say that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Because you know jay Z won't say that. If everybody
in your click is rich, your click is rugged, nobody
will fall because everybody will be each other's crutches. I
would think even with fourteen years no fact, Wayne, I
mean Wayne became Wayne in those right right, like they
was all still in the mix.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
They were still in the mix. And not not only
that though, Like you know, at the end of the day,
I can't tell my story without telling these stories, right,
you know, Jupiter can't tell his story without telling my story.
Wayne can't tell his story, you know without telling my stories.
So you know, we all joined at the hip, whether
we like it or not, you know what I mean,
(15:45):
Like our legacies are all you know what I mean,
Like like one, you know what I'm saying, so you
know that I think that benefited me too.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
What do you think that era taught you about loyalty
and ownership?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Mmm? Man, I mean it taught me to be on
your be on your Yeah, you know what I mean,
because you know it's it's a lot of things that
I had to come home to. You know what I'm saying,
that I had to fix your day for us. You know,
having people around me, you know that was around me
(16:22):
for all the wrong reasons, and you know what was
doing things that you know I wasn't aware of. You know,
that had me in situations that you know I didn't
choose to be in. But you know they was doing
crooked you know how I go. Man, You know what
I mean. So, yeah, it taught me a lot, man.
And now I'm on point now man.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Now what's your release?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Is it true that every lyric that you rap now
or right now you have to send for approval?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So so so I definitely I saw I have to
turn it over to my pill, you know what I mean,
like they they don't get to approve because when I
first came home, or the when I did the album
with Gucci, Man, when I first came home and and
wapped it a tape together, right, and they tried to
(17:15):
violate me and send me back to jail for that,
you know what I mean. And I was like, damn, like,
you know, like what's up, Like I ain't did nothing
but what I've been doing, you know what I mean.
So they were saying that they didn't want me doing
nothing pertaining to entertainment or nothing pertaining to music that
(17:38):
I could make money off of, you know what I mean.
So it was like wow, damn, like yoh, they like,
I don't I didn't understand it. And that's why I
thought it exactly, like I've been doing this since I
was thirteen years old, like, and you're trying to send
me back to jail for just simply trying to make
a living, you know what I mean. So the judge
(17:59):
agreed with me and said it was a violation of
my freedom of speech, you know what I mean. And
but but she did say that I had to turn
over the lyrics to my probation officers before I made
them available to the public, you know what I mean.
So I still, you know, have to turn my lyrics
over to my probation officers before I make them available
(18:22):
to the public. But she don't have to approve them
or nothing. But I still be having to just you know,
be mindful of what I say and how I said.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You can't put this out.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Nah, they ain't gonna lie. Or they've been. They've been.
They've been working with me like they've been. They've been,
they've been. They've been giving me, they've been, they've been
giving me my they've been giving me my space and
letting me make it. And I got a good po man, like,
and I ain't got number like two months left, you
know what I mean. I haven't done everything I was
supposed to do the right way. You know, I ain't
(19:00):
feel no drug says I did and did all my
or my community service. You know, I didn't completed all
the programs you know that they you know, wanted me
to complete. Like so everything is everything, man, And I'm grateful.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
They want you to drop a gospel.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
He listen, not because in the beginning or like, they
didn't want me rapping about guns. They didn't want me
rapping about snitches. You know, they didn't want me rapping
about I'm talking about you know, everything that I've made
a living off, like my whole career. Like and I'm like,
hold up, Like I ain't the first one to rap
about it. I ain't gonna be the last one to
rap about it. Like what you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I can't rap about this, this, that, and the third
Like come on, like it's only entertainment, you know what
I'm saying, Like I ain't no different from Denzel Washington
playing Frank Lucas, like I'm Christopher Dorsey playing BG. Like
it's only entertainment. You see what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You even still have to play that anymore? Because I mean,
you're you're a wiser man now, older, you got a
lot of life experiences, non facts, and you've always been
you know, vivid with depending story facts. But do you
even have to lean into that anymore?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Not? Not not really, Like I just I just pretty
much I just pretty much tell my story, you know
what I'm saying, And you know, rep about what I see,
rep about what I go through, rap about what I experience,
and you know, just try to keep it authentic, man,
and try to keep it real.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Know when you first in the documentary, you talk about
when you first came home and you tried to go
to Vegas, versus staying in New Orleans because you just
knew it wasn't good for you, and they denied that
at first. Yeah, and then you had the conversation with
your prosecutor for two hours, but you don't tell us
what the conversation really entailed in the documentary. So I'm wondering,
Like you said, it went well, but like, what what
did you say to him or her? And what did
(20:53):
they respond back with that? God did approval?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I mean basically, you know, I just told them that,
you know, I felt like my life was in jeopardy,
you know if I went back to New Orleans, like
I felt like it wasn't safe for me, you know
what I mean. And I told him that I needed
a new start, you know what I mean. And I
wanted a new start, you know what I'm saying. And
I just didn't want to go back to the city,
(21:18):
man like, because you know a lot of the dudes
that I left was still out there doing the same
things that I left him doing, you know what I'm saying.
So you know, I just wanted a fresh start, and
he agreed with me. He agreed with me, and they
gave me a pass and let me go. You know,
start a new life in Vegas. So I went to Vegas, syce,
(21:39):
you know, and everything worked out for me.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
That should be common sense, though you're asking that.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah for real, for real, because if I would have
went back to New Orleans, I probably would be already
back in jail, you know what I mean, Like if
i'd have went back to the city. You know what
I mean, Like, if I'd have went back to the city, man,
I already be back in jail right now. Man, you
know what I mean. I mean, like I couldn't go
back to the city.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
One thing I like about you too, You've always been
open about your drug addiction. Did did jail help you
get clean?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No? Not absolutely, because when I left, you know, I
was a lean head. You know, I was a pill
popping animal, like you know, syrup sipping, you know, so hoigh,
you couldn't reach me with an antena like like on my wing.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Like.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
But yeah, not heroin too.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Not.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I ain't did heroin since twenty twenty, since twenty old two,
twenty three, you know what I'm saying. But you know
I had started popping pills and drinking lean and like
oh four five, like when a hurricane hit you know
what I mean. So, yeah, I didn't. I haven't done
a heroin since like two thousand and two, two thousand
(22:49):
and three, I kicked heroin, but then I picked up
another opiate, you know what I'm saying. And you know
that I learned that that just was a substitute for that,
you see what I'm saying. So yeah, man, I'm jailed definitely.
You know, help me, you know what I'm saying. Just
shake that all the way, all the way, all the way.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Do you know what you might have been trying to
escape when you were doing those drugs?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Just just just just you know, the man, it's a
lot of pressure. You It's a lot that come with
this industry, you know what I'm saying. It's a lot
that you know come with you know, just the bills
and you know, your family and you know, just trying
to please everybody and just trying to mask, you know
(23:38):
what I mean, like certain things and it's just it
be escape, man, for real, for real like and and
that's why I was away.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
The man, I want you feel hold enough.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Just just just living, you know what I'm saying, Just
just really for real, for real being free. You know
what I'm saying being free, you know, being happy and
being alive. Man, for real, for real, you know what
I mean, because you know I didn't lost a lot.
I Dodnet, lost a lot of good homes along the way,
and and and I know what they could do. You
(24:11):
know what I mean. I was in jail, and you
know I've seen you know, what had been the Juice world,
and I know that could have easily been my story.
You know what I'm saying. You know, I see X
and you know, I like, it's a lot of good men.
You know what I'm saying in this industry. You know that,
you know what I mean. That that then that then
(24:32):
from you know what I mean. And I'm like, damn, man,
that could easily been me, Like that was me, you
know what I mean. Like and you know, jail pretty
much saved my life, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
For real real, I feel like you and X would
have had a great connection. I know y'all did.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, nah, fact that was the bro. That was the bro. Yeah,
absolutely absolutely. I loved the X man like that was
my dog, you know what I'm saying, Like he.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Was ex.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Hey, nah, I got some stories that never keep to
myself yeah, man, I love X man. That was the broke.
That was the broke.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I wanted to ask, you know, before y'all did verses,
did y'all have to have a conversation? Are we seeing
that Gucci and Jeezi had a conversation before versus? Did
y'all have to have a conversation, lay things out or no?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
All sides? Well? Well, home team, And I mean, you know,
me and Klse been working together forever, Like I love KELC,
like you know we we were doing a whole project
together right now. Like Mac is my brother, like I
love Mac, like Mack was on my first album, Chopper City.
You know what I'm saying, fiend my brother like me
(25:43):
and X my sister, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like see murdered my dog, you know what I mean?
Like I don't know, you know the conversation that you know,
bebing p head or if they even had a conversation.
But yeah, I was having conversations with you know, all
the people that I just mentioned before.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You know, we did it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And I'm like, man, listen, man, come on, man, stop
playing man. Let's check this bag. Man. You know what
I'm saying, Let's check this bag. You know what I'm saying,
Let's give it to the people. Let's do it for
the culture. Man, you know what I'm saying, Like it's
just been long overdue and it happened.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And how to be wrong, But I feel like murdered
only no limits money artists to collaborate.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I feel like, and well, me and men collaborated, and
men and me and Freend collaborated. Freend was on my
last album. Yeah yeah, yeah, facts.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
And how bad does the Turk situation hurt? Because it's
it's y'all grew up with each other. Y'all looked in
the same house as you'll told I'm sure s h yeah, yeah, yeah,
miniving travel right, how is that situation that the family
can't be tight?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I mean, man, I mean bro like man, brouh man.
This Internet is poison man, you know, I mean, you
know what I mean, Like you know, it's it's a
crazy place, you know what I mean. And you know
a lot of people, you know, just get caught up,
(27:09):
you know what i mean, like in the likes and
you know, in the followers, and you know, just in
the bs. You know what I'm saying that that come
with it, and you know, everything ain't for everybody, you
know what I mean. And that's just how I feel,
you know what I'm saying, because I come up and
grew up in a time where you know, you you
(27:30):
try to keep what was private private, you know what
I mean, like, and nowadays it's just like everybody's just
want to just you know what I mean, like, come on, man, like,
what is we doing? Like? Come on man, stop it,
man like? You know what I'm saying, Like were supposed
to be man like, we're supposed to be cancled Like
(27:52):
what is you going? You know what I'm saying, Like
what is you? Like? What is you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Like what's in the like it be throwing me off, man,
But you know it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
If you try to be the bridge, the one to
say you know what to me, be the guy.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
That you've grown you bevore nah facts facts.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I mean listen, man, Like I said, Man, you know
me and Stunt, I got our relationship. You know, I
got my relationship with Julie. You know what I'm saying, Man,
wis they got our relationship? You know? Men? Fresh you
know we got our relationship. You know what I'm saying,
Like t you know he beyond, he beat man, he
(28:41):
beyond what he beyond, And I just ain't on that,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, at the
end of the day, man like it is what it is, man.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
But it always looks good to see all of y'all
who may be trying to front on Turk's roll in
the hot.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And you know,
I mean, don't make me go there.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Man, like you did have the best verse on blank blank.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
On blink blink not Maybe I need a high girl,
you know what I'm saying, Maybe I need a high.
No not. He He's like, like, I ain't. I ain't
taking nothing away from round. You heard me, you know
what I'm saying. But man, roun be shripping now. I
(29:32):
mean y'all did with y'all was on.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Tour together for a little while, and I saw y'all
in New Orleans. It was a great vibe of there,
but then it was the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He's just be doing goofy ship, you know what I'm saying,
Like he's just for no reason, like like like like
he's just me jumping out there, you know what I'm saying.
With no parachute on, you know what I'm saying, like
for no reasons, like and you know what I'm saying like,
and it's just be like, man, you know what I'm saying, like,
(30:00):
come on, bro, you you got jewn man, you got
fresh Man, you got bird Maid. You know what I'm saying.
You playing with me? You know what I'm saying. And
then you got short in the cut, like don't give
about none of it?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Like, and it's like, bro, come on, you shot yourself
in the foot. You know what I'm saying, like you
and then you constantly shooting yourself in the foot.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
But could he be going through something though?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Like could it be something deeper?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Like you know, man, I don't know. Man, you know
you know, you know, you know behind you know every
you know what they say behind every strong black man
is a strong black woman, right, you know what I'm saying.
And then you know behind every goofy, it's a goofy
free man that's telling them what they're doing is.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I won't trying to go that way, but I do
want to ask you what's one thing you know about
freedom now that you didn't understand back then?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh Man, it's man, it is the most important, Like
because I got my son in here with me right now,
right And when I left the streets, he was eleven
years old. You know what I'm saying, And I come
home to a grown man. You know what I'm saying, Like,
(31:30):
I come home he twenty two, twenty three years old.
You know what I'm saying, And I miss you know,
the most important years of his life, right, you know
what I'm saying. And you know sometimes you know, he
be doing things and I be like, damn, I can't
even fault him for not knowing what I wasn't never
(31:50):
teach him. You see. You know what I'm saying. So
you know it's it's man, bruh, Like man, freedom is man,
and it is everything. Man. You know what I'm saying,
Like I don't wish you know, jail on my words. Enemy, Man,
you know what I'm saying, because that's not nowhere that nah.
(32:11):
It ain't nothing cool about it, you main, nothing cool
about it. I mean, I know it, come with it,
you know what I'm saying. When you out there living,
you know a certain type of way, you know when
you're doing certain type of things. You know what I
mean like, you know, you gotta, I mean, it is
what it is, right, you know what I'm saying, and
you gotta take your ligging and you gotta, you know,
(32:31):
move on. But yeah, man, I definitely it's a lot
of things that I wish, you know, that I could have,
you know, took back so I could have been there,
you know what I'm saying, for my family and for
my kids and just for you know, the people that
love me. Man. So yeah, freedom is everything.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
What's dad bej Like? Now your home and you're getting
to be with your son, Like, what are you like
as a father?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I mean, I'm the cool dad, you know what I'm saying. Like,
you know, I try to you know, put my foot
down when this you know what I mean, time to
put my foot down. But also you know I miss
so much time, right, you know what I'm saying to
where it's like, you know, in certain situations, I be
(33:20):
kind of timid, you know what I mean, and don't
be wanting to be too, you know what I'm saying,
like strict or whatever. Whatever. But yeah, man, I'm just
enjoying it. I'm just enjoying it. Man, I'm just enjoying it,
you know, I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You've always been wrong with your music, but you know
now that you're old or wiser, not your freedom. Is
there a part of your story you're more protective of,
like something you'd rather kip to yourself than put it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
In music, not necessarily. Like I've always been an open book,
you know what I'm saying. I've always been an open book.
Like I ain't never really hear nothing, you know in
my music. I always you know, and embrace the good,
the bad, and ugly, you know what I mean. So yeah, man,
and I still keep it that way.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
What was the hardest thing you had to adjust to
when you first came home?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Social media? You know, you know what I'm saying. Social media,
like you know, the the you know, the the DM
in and you know, you getting with females and trying
to take pictures of you.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Now it's differently.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Listen, listen, listen, listen. But I'm glad, you know, I'm
in a relationship now. I got a woman now, you
know what I mean. And I ain't gotta you know,
live like that no more, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, man, it was, it was, it was, it was,
It was it was strange, you know what I'm saying.
(34:56):
It was it was different, like you know, just adjusting
because when I else, Instagram had just thought that you
can only just post a picture, you know what I mean,
like you you couldn't go live, you couldn't do this,
do that, do that, do that? You know what I'm saying.
And then I come home and it's just you know
what I mean, like, you know, everybody got a voice now,
(35:16):
everybody got a old pain. Everybody like it just was
a lot. And you know what I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Got girls that want that fresh out of prison.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Because the.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
People were waiting for BG to be It.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Was like nah, nah facts man. But yeah, I'm heppily.
I'm heapily in a relationship. Man. I think I'm getting
married that ship.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Saying, for real, for real, you know, that's the one.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
She she she she made me feel you know, complete,
you know, she she makes me happy. It's not for real,
(36:13):
for risk real though, man's it's it's it's real, man.
And I ain't never like I've never out of my
thirty years of just wilding and just dugging and just
you know, being a hot boy, right, you know, what
I'm saying, I ain't never like you know, being in
(36:35):
this place, like you know, just mentally, like and physically,
that's a fact. Already.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
You've been looking at rings already.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I've been. I've been. I've been looking at rings already.
I love it, n for real, for real, man.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
How does an artist like yourself, who really come from
the street, who really come from that life, how do
you adapt to this new era without losing your authenticity?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Damn, that's a good question, man, Like, I mean, I
just gotta stay true to who I am, you know
what I'm saying, Like, you know, just as a person
and as a man, right, you know what I mean,
because you know it's just waller down all you man Like,
it's just different, you know what I mean. Like, it's
a lot of things and I just be like, man,
(37:36):
the you know what I mean, I be like, man like,
sometimes I just be want to hang up, like, man,
I'm about to go do see what I'm saying, Like
like I'm about to find because it's it's but at
the end of the day, man, that's what I signed
up for, you know what I mean, That's what I
signed up for. You know what I'm saying, and I
(37:56):
love a culture. You know what I'm saying, you know,
like like music, you know and repping like you know
it's just in my heart, you know what I'm saying.
And yeah, man, like I ain't gonna let you know
the buffoonery or just the sucker stuff. You know what
I'm saying. Dictate, you know what I'm doing and what
I'm on. So I just stayed true to who I am,
(38:19):
man and keep it pushing.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
My last question, I guess on the documentary is the
whole time throughout the documentary you're talking about how much
or your lawyer talks about how much you wanted to fight.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
From the very beginning.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Facts.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
It's a big fight to have when you went up against.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
The government right now, nah, big facts.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Were you ever scared at any point like yo, this
might go the wrong way because you said you felt
like they were putting you in that position because you
wouldn't cooperate with it, right right?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Nah? Absolutely, Like I mean I was, but I knew
I didn't do anything wrong, you know what I mean,
Like I knew deep down inside you know that I
didn't do nothing wrong. Like like it's music, like like
you gonna lock me up for some raps, like come on, man,
(39:06):
like make that make sense, you know what I mean.
Like so you know, like I told him and then man,
I paid you a hundred grandmar you know what I'm saying,
Like you better go ahead and man, make this make
sense for me. But you know, at the end of
the day, like yeah, nah, I just wouldn't lay down
like you know, because at the end of the day,
(39:28):
you know, I felt like if if if I laid
down and then I seen what Doug was going through.
You know what I'm saying in his case, you know,
with them using his lyrics against him. You know, I
seen other artists you know go through you know, whether
it was c Murder or mag or you know this
one or that one. And I'm like, man, nah, manna,
(39:50):
I ain't no because I ain't there nothing but with
some rabbit, you know what I'm saying, Like just cause
you don't like it, you know that, don't make it
you know wrong, Like you know it's rock and roll
all this that talking about chilling me mamas, and you
know what I'm saying, doing all type of wow stuff.
You see what I'm saying. So you know you trying
to ridicule me and and nah, nah, nah, I ain't
(40:14):
laying now like that, man, because I ain't dead nothing.
You know what I'm saying. I ain't did nothing, but
I'm just trying to make a living and I'm just
telling my story. And at the end of the days
on entertainment, so I had to go with my move
and you.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Had Lana and then Tasha. I know she's here with
you fighting for you as well from returning back. Sorry,
I'm sorry, Tracy, Tracy fighting hard for you. And they
were in the documentary talking about them choosing to fight
for you during the time where you said a lot
of people kind of like backed away. What did that
teach you about relationships and valuing relationships because they didn't
(40:48):
get nothing out of supporting you.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I mean, you know you you you you always find
out who who who love you for you? Like you
know what I'm saying, you know, like you know people people, man,
people love you when it's beneficial for him, right, you
know what I'm saying, Like and you know it's man,
(41:12):
I could go on and on about that whole you
know what I'm saying, situation because I didn't experienced a
lot when they come down to that. But you know
they had to wrapped their arms around me for day one,
you know what I mean, since you know the moment
I went to prison to you know, the moment you
know I came down that escalator and they was there,
you know, waiting on me. So you know that that
(41:35):
that goes without saying, you know what I mean, that
they was gonna stand with me and fight with me,
you know what I mean? But yeah, man, it just
sees you a lot about you know people. But I
ain't come on, man, like I already know it, Like
I ain't knew of this. You know what I'm saying.
I'm true to this, So it's like I already know
(41:56):
what it is.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
So when you've seen both sides of loyalty from the
business and the street side, and just you know, given
your people, Like what's harder for giving somebody who crossed
you or forgiving yourself for like the choices you might
have made.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Mmm, I ain't lying, man, You not forgive, but I
don't forget, right, you know what I'm saying. Like, you know,
I know a lot of people feel like that, right,
you forgive, but you don't forget. You know what I'm saying,
and you know, it just make you wiser, and it
make you smarter, and they make you you know, picking
(42:30):
shoes to people that you know, you choose the you
know have around you in the future, right, you know
what I mean, Like it gives you a better you
know what I'm saying, Like it gives you a better
sense of the type of people that you know you
want around you or that you need around you, because
I definitely don't like no yes men around me. You
(42:51):
know what I'm saying. I need people around me that's
gonna call me on my bs. You know what I'm saying. Uh,
that's gonna check me. You know when I'm you know
what I'm saying, doing something wrong and things of that nature,
because you know, like PEMPSI said, man in his book,
like when you get to believe in you on hype,
you know what I mean, Like that's a recipe for disaster,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, I try
(43:12):
to keep people around me. That's gonna you know, just
keep me in line and let me know, like, man,
look you tripping you know what I'm saying, or you ain't,
you know what I mean, But it gotta be somebody
that you respect. You know what I'm saying, And that's
why I'm at with it.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Do you ever feel like your story could have been
a warning or a lesson for the next generation.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Absolutely? Absolutely, absolutely, Like don't be like me, be better
than me. You know what I'm saying like that, That's
what I always try to preach. You know what I'm saying,
Like I be going to you know, Drew in our jails,
and you know, when I do my community service, I
be going to the jails and you know, speaking to
the youth and you know, doing you know what I'm saying,
(43:52):
like what I need to do a give back and
things of that nature. But I just be trying to
tell them all the time. Man, listen, man, don't be
like me. Man, be better than me. Man, I've been there,
done that.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I know where it live. Man. You know what I mean. Like, Man,
I'm telling you man, like it's real. You know what
I'm saying, Like I know a lot of dudes man
that's that's never coming home. Man, Like they're gonna die
in that jone. You know what I'm saying, Like literally,
like they gonna die in that motherfucker. You know. Excuse me.
You know what I'm saying, But like it's it's it's
(44:26):
it's real out here.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
What part of your life do you think you want
this generation to pay attention to the most part of
your life what they learned.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
From the more for real, for real, Like I ain't lying, bro,
man them drugs, broy.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Like you know, and I used to love that cup.
I loved that cup. You know what I'm saying. I
loved it, you know, pomming pills. You know, it was
my escape. You know, it was my safe place, like
it made me. But man, bro, that it hold you back,
you know what I mean, like in a major way,
man Like, it really really hold you back, you know
(45:07):
what I'm saying. So you know, I know you know
it's a look and you know what I mean, Like
you know, it's it's you know, it's part of the
swag and you know all this and all that. But
at the end of the day, man like, man, nah,
where is that you think it kept you from being?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Like?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Man, absolutely absolutely it held me all the way back.
I'm saying, it helped me all the way back. I
think I could have been way bigger. You know that
than I was if if I wasn't torn what I
was doing, right, Yeah? Yeah, yeah, well us you know
what I'm saying, as a whole, like we you know,
(45:44):
we was in the studio just having fun one one night,
you know what I mean, and you know we had
just started, you know, I mean, well we had been
getting money and shining and whatever whatever. And you know, man,
you blinking and you know, you blink blinking and then
Wayne come up with the hook and the rest of
it is in the diction ever in all types of
you know what i mean. So I'm like, yeah, yeah,
(46:05):
but but you and I wouldn't credit myself. I'm ana
credit the whole gang. Man.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
You know what I'm saying, What does healing look like
for BG?
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Healing?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah? I mean you carried a lot, you know what
I'm saying, grief and farceration, Like what's peace look like
to you? Now?
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Man? You know that just you know love man, like
you know, just you know the kids. You know what
I'm saying, like you know my girl, like you know music,
you know what I mean, just you know, doing what
I love Like I mean, yeah, man, that's that's that's
(46:48):
that's that's pretty much you know what what what healing
look like to me? Man, like just you know, just
just just really for real for it, just you know,
being happy man, and is staying focused, man and staying
out the way for real.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Right, don't give me no answer.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Like New Orleans, I ain't gonna lie man like on
some g you know, and this is you know what
I'm saying me and you're on some G like presentation wise,
you know what I'm saying. I think they probably got us,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, they came,
you know, Camouflyes down. They was, and I was trying
(47:32):
to get everybody on the same page with the T
Bulls and Reeds.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I want to like, I want to come T's Bulls read.
But song for song like they couldn't handle us, man
like song for song. But presentation wise, they won, man,
you know what I'm saying, Song for song, No, they
never go see us, you know what I mean. But
at the end of the day, you know, it was
(47:58):
a win for the city. It was a win for Louisiana. Man,
it was a win for the culture. Man.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
When you go when y'all going to and your mind
he would be like, I'm getting my get back.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Oh yeah, big nah. That's a fact. That's a fact.
That's a fact. That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Man. Check out Beg's documentary and his deluxe album Freedom
of Speech.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
All yeah, nah absolutely absolutely, Man, I got the man
Bullsik got an album bother come out. Me and Mike
will made it. Got an album bother come out like Man,
I got some Yeah, I got some shit. I got
some yeah coming on the place.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
He's another one who held you down when you was
in prison.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, not bulls it man, bro, I love bull like
that's my brother life from another mother. Like I'm talking
about you know, every holiday, you know, he'd hit my
mama with a bag like you know, hit my kids
with a bag like you know, made sure I was straight.
Every time I called, he picked up like you know,
(48:55):
Man Boo is like the altar man man like I
ain't even must say enough about round.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
You heard me?
Speaker 1 (49:02):
You know what I'm saying. My man, t I you
know what I'm saying, was there for me like you
know a yeah, yeah, I hear signed Atlantic, but T
I had executive produce the album with me. Yeah, he
was the reason I went over there. Like he orchestrated
the whole play with Craig Kellman and wow, man, you
know what I'm saying, got us a bag and you
know what I'm saying, like yeah, so you know tip
(49:23):
my brother to you know what I mean. That's a fact.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
I can listen to you talk all day.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Listen man, I love it.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I do want to say love.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Although you went through so much, you know, you do
not look like what you went through like you look good.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I'm happy to see you, Paul.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
You go, nah Man, thank you, thank you man. I
appreciate it, Man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
Always good energy.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Nah big facts.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
It's the Breakfast Club. Thank you for coming here.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Every day. I wake up. Clake your glass up the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
You're finishing, y'all done. H
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!