Vivica Fox talks 50 Cent and the internet has OPINIONS!

Vivica A Fox opens up about her dating life and specifically her relationship with 50 Cent and the people are TALKING. Loren gets into the conversation and reminds us that Vivica A Fox has the right to express herself however she wants to regarding her relationships etc!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
George. I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about
everything and everybody. You don't know if you don't lie
about that, right, Lauren, Hey, y'all, what's up? It to
Lauren de Rosa And this is the latest with Lauren
de Rosa. This is your daily dig on all things
pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations that
shake the room. Baby. Now today we are going to

(00:24):
get into a conversation that I'm always down to have
conversations about stereotypes. And I am always down to have
conversations about stereotypes when it comes to male and female
because I mean, and it's not even like a feminist
movement thing, because I don't consider myself a feminist. There's
a lot of things with feminist movement ways that I

(00:44):
don't agree with. However, I always like opportunities to call
out bullshit. So Vivica Fox was at a woman's expo
in New Jersey and she was asked what would she
said to her seventeen year old like, what is some
advice for people that are young trying to get into this?
And here is what she had to say, don't yes,

(01:27):
Just so you know, it took me years to be
able to laugh about.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Them, right, right, I had to learn to laugh not
to cry, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Now, of course it's Vibica Fox. She's mentioning fifty cent
don't date rappers, don't date fifty cent all the workings
and all the things that they are to get the
people going, And that is exactly what happened. Because, oh baby,
the people have been online arguing for the past week.
Here's the argument. It's Vibica Fox, just this person who

(02:01):
you know, had this relationship with fifty cent both stars
at the time, that just can't let it go because
fifty cent is fifty cent and who he is and
all of the things. Right, But let us not forget
miss Vivica A. Fox, the girl Vivica A like. Let
us not forget who Vivica Fox was at the time

(02:24):
when she was dating fifty cent and who she still
is today. Right. So there's that conversation that people are having,
and then there's the conversation of, well, what's wrong with
her saying that she would have not have wanted to
have dated a rapper or honestly, when you dig deeper
into the conversation, just make it her dating life a
part of her career. I want to get into this

(02:44):
conversation now. Some time ago, about a few years ago,
back in twenty twenty three, I sat down with Vivica Fox.
We were having a conversation about her NAACP Image Award
nomination at the time for the Tunisia Welch Story, which
is another version of a BMF story. You guys know,

(03:07):
fifty Cent was doing the BMF series which was recently
announced that you know, this would be their last season.
It's canceled, it's not coming back. But yes, so Tanisia
watch story. Vivica A. Fox you know, was in the
producer director's chair of that and they were nominated for
Image Award. So we're talking, and what I realized in

(03:27):
preparing for the conversation to sit down that I had
with Vivica A. Fox was that I don't think a
lot of people, especially if you're of a certain age
and younger, really understand the way Vivca Fox was the girl.
I mean everywhere you looked, every big name projects of Hollywood,

(03:50):
big studio films, everywhere you look, she was the girl.
And not only talent wise and what she was booking,
but I just mean beauty and you know, essence of
like black woman in Hollywood and just the sex appeal
and the power and all of the things. And I
think a lot of that oozed into the roles that
she decided to take. But I also learned in this

(04:13):
conversation with Vivica Fox that this very thing that people
love to go back and forth with her about whether
it's her right to talk about how her dating history
affected in or did not her career, is rightfully hers
to talk about and how it has actually affected. It's
like people want to see the back and forth because

(04:35):
I guess it's entertaining. People want to criticize the back
and forth, but I don't think people ever take the
time to stop and think about, well, what she really
affected by that relationship? Is that why this has become
a permanent part in her story. Vivica Fox tells me
in the sit down interview that we did that if
she could take back a lot of things or just conversations,

(04:56):
it would be the fact that people only knew her
for the girlfriend or the sexy roles. That's take Listen
to this interview I did some time ago with Vivocal Fox.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
There was a time where everyone was more concerned about
my love life and things on the blogs than my talent.
I learned that that was my mistake. You know, I
learned to keep things a little bit more privately. That
was because I opened myself up. So what I had
to do was accept responsibility for that. I'm a huge,
a huge accountability person. I take accountability for all my

(05:26):
actions when something happens in my career, in my life,
I'm the first one to look in the mirror and go, wow,
how long, why did that happen? And what part did
I play? So I had to go and reinvent myself.
I had to go to the theater and start playing
roles where my character got broken down in there. I
wasn't miss fabulous one ill dressed up. My husband cheated

(05:48):
on me. I did a play Cheaper to Keeper with
Brian McKnight, and I went and I did theater for
two years. And when I say theater, we were on
the road doing plays. I was reintroducing my brand and
myself as an actress to my audience.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
And I think, you know, in looking at this, and
I did try and reach out and have a new,
refreshed conversation around this with Vivica Fox to no avail.
But I think and you know, having the conversation I
had with her and seeing the way that people reacted,
you know, to her, even in her mentioning this conversation,
I do remember there was a time where Vivica Fox,

(06:29):
you know, and fifty were going back and for you know,
that thing they were doing amongst their shows, and fifty
sens girlfriend at the time, Cuban Link had got involved,
and you know, she said some things that weren't too
flattering of Vivica Fox, and the world quickly reminded Cuban
Link and everybody else that thought that, you know, those
comments were cute. You cannot play with Hollywood royalty, black television,

(06:52):
black movie, black it girl ryalty, which is what Vivica
Fox is. So when I see people have conversations about
the fact that she's expressing herself and what this relationship
meant to her, didn't mean did to her, I'm like, y'all,
that is her business to be able to do. So
you got people out here, and this is the thing
too that bothers me, Like I feel like when it

(07:13):
comes to women, when we have conversations about relationships in
our you know, what we demand in relationships, not even
what we demand, but like just what we want in relationships,
what we don't want in relationships, how relationships have affected us,
depending on the person and depending on how we talk
about it, we're drags, Like we are not allowed to

(07:35):
be these like women needs these people, these beings that
are just out here figuring things out dating, learning what
we like, what we don't like. Like think about the
fact that, like right now, as take any woman in Hollywood,
any single woman in Hollywood right now. Let's take Tracy
Ellis Ross for example. Tracy Alice Ross has talked a

(07:55):
lot about you know, being single, you know, not having kids,
in enjoying her life at this point without all of
the things in dating. Right She's also talked about deciding
to keep her business to herself when it comes to dating.
And I know a lot of women that do this,
especially industry wise, or if they you know, their influencers

(08:15):
they have a little buzz or whatever the case, they
may be right because as a woman, you don't get
the ability to data man experience that, learn from it,
dislike it, talk about it, use it in any type
of creative Taylor Swift is dragged every time she writes
about an ex summer Walker gets dragged every time she

(08:38):
talks or writes about an X And you know, and granted,
I'm not saying that every woman in every decision that
they're making with the men that they're dating or great decisions.
That is not the argument here. What I'm saying is
is who are we to tell these women that they
can't make them decisions and can't do that. If Tracy
allis dress today were to go out on a date
in public and be seen with somebody, even if the

(08:59):
date is just her actually getting to know somebody, she
is now marked by that person that she was seen with,
and literally it could have just been like a coffee date.
But if you're a man and you're seen out and
you're you know, dating a person or whatever, multiple different people,
it just doesn't stick the same. And I think people
don't understand that period. I think if you're a woman

(09:23):
who is not in a certain space, which is crazy
to me because I feel like you don't got to
be famous to understand that. As a woman, you know,
your account is your count, what is what is thrown
on your name and your reputation when it comes to dating.
When it comes to men, when it comes to you know,
all of that sticks way harder than it does any

(09:43):
man in any similar situation. But especially with women in
the spotlight, I think we give them such a hard
time about these decisions that they're making and their reactions
to the decisions and how they handle them when it's
like it could have really been in a situation that
like really stop, you know, things in her trap as
she said, she had to go back and rebuild her

(10:04):
career after taking on certain roles and being the sexy
girl and the girlfriend and you know, being spotted with
all of the guys. And that's just the thing. Why
are y'all mad at Vivika Fox for expressing something she
might have learned maybe she had to learn. Yo, you
don't want the big name celebrity rapper. You don't because

(10:27):
it overshadows your work. It overshadows you know, your own career,
It overshadows all of the hard work you put into things.
Like why is that an issue we only do it
with women? If a man were to come out and say,
for instance, Nick Cannon is a perfect example, and Nick
Cannon not everybody loves his commentary when he talks about

(10:51):
Mariah Carey, I think every now and then he does
get that, Oh, here you go again. But at the
same time, Nick Cannon is allowed to have conversations about
his experiences in dating Mariah Carey, who was a you know,
super I mean, and the canon was Nick Cannon, but
it's Mariah Carey at the time, right. He gets to

(11:12):
talk about that. He gets to talk about how it
really messed with his ego. He gets to talk about
the fact that he had to take a step back
and really take a look in and say, hey, why
did that bother me? Why was I so challenged in
that relationship as a man? Like why did her status
and the things that she's accomplished, you know make me

(11:33):
feel lesser than or make me feel like I had
to poke my chest out in certain situations and in
our relationship didn't work. We call these conversations healing, and
you know, he's tapping in with himself and he's maturing it.
But when a woman does it, Oh, laurd, here's she
go again talking about that relationship. She can't get over
that man, huh. And I'm here for the back and forth.

(11:54):
You know, it's entertaining because you know, the minute fifty
centers mentioned you know he is coming and we had similar,
you know, sentiments than like what I saw online. So
fifty Cent posted a photo of himself with the red
pill blue pill, and in the photo, the caption says,
either way, I'm gonna have that ass in a matrix.
You know, I love me some you girl, But damn,

(12:15):
it's been twenty two years. Viveca. Question for the audience,
question for the people in the room. Why can't women
talk about what they've learned in relationships and it not
be well? Damn Still? Honestly, I feel like anytime a
woman is talking about anything relationship wise, especially something that

(12:37):
has turned her off, she doesn't like she has had
to learn from her she's had to move on. We
are either difficult, We're bitter, we're stuck on past situations,
we want too much, our expectations are too high or
just unrealistic, or we don't know how to like create
a safe space for a man to be like vulnerable

(12:58):
in all these things because we don't want to settle
for certain things. And maybe this is the woman in
me speaking. Am I being biased? I want to hear
from the men as well. How do y'all feel? Do
you feel like as a man, because I know sometimes
men get called sassy, but most of the time it's
the men with the podcast mikes, and let's be honest,

(13:20):
a lot of them do be a little sasy, little seasoned,
little sass owned, but men do y'all feel like you,
guys are able to have open conversations about what you've learned,
the relationships, how you've learned it, what you've liked, what
you did not like, and how is it proceed because
I feel like when I'm watching men do it, both
in a you know, very open big entertainment industry or

(13:42):
just even on podcasts or online, women love hearing it
involved the king. Yes, men love seeing men in spaces
being able to express themselves because, according to you, guys,
women don't allow you to space to But the minute
we do it, I'm gonna getchewed up for this video.
The minute we do with we are bitter. We can't
move on. Oh they love us, say we don't know

(14:04):
our worth because we're you know, we don't want to
be here. We're figuring it out there, like don't have
dated around and I don't mean like you out here,
just throwing it, throwing that in the circle for everybody.
I mean, like you are honestly a single woman who
has decided to be single until you figure out what
it is that you want. So you're dating and experiencing
different people. Then you fatherless, you a whole. You don't know.

(14:27):
It's just I don't understand, Like what are we supposed
to do?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Like?

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Can we date? Can we learn? Can we grow? Can
we use it to teach the next generation of young
girls coming up about, Hey, this is what you should
not do or not y'all let me know