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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
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Speaker 4 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
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Speaker 5 (00:26):
Charlemagne the Guy.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm a lovable abal clan.

Speaker 6 (00:30):
Yo.

Speaker 7 (00:30):
I'm loving that energy up there right now.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Sometimes you gotta pop out. This shows it. Now let's begin.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
Wait, this is your time to get it off your chest.
Eight hundred five eighty five one o five one. We
want to hear from you on the breakfast club.

Speaker 8 (00:46):
Hello, who's this?

Speaker 9 (00:48):
Sean d from the d what's up?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Brother?

Speaker 7 (00:50):
Get it off your chest? Man?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
What's going on?

Speaker 10 (00:52):
Somebody has y'all going all leak because God, Darry I'm
the duck the other day?

Speaker 11 (00:56):
Is he know? What's this thing called Christmas? New Year's Brother?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Come on now, okay you can protect you Mary. You won't,
Charla Man, what y'all want us to work through the holidays?
We can't. We can't get a little vaca A little break.
Nah nah, No, ain't no break.

Speaker 8 (01:13):
We got kids.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Day, we got kids, and we got we got brains.
We need a mental break.

Speaker 10 (01:19):
Bro Hey, I can understand you the way of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yes, sir, thank you, We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:26):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Who's this renee?

Speaker 5 (01:28):
Renee?

Speaker 7 (01:29):
Get it off your chest?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, listen, good morning everybody. First of all, good morning.
I went to the dispensary yesterday, right, and I'm tired
of the taxes on the dispensary marijuana. And I got
a medical card to bes. You know what I'm saying.
It's pretty cost three twenty five for an house and

(01:50):
then you're gonna hit me with a fourteen tax.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
How much it costs my house.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Three twenty five?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
God damn jesus.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
He listen, that's my medicine. I need that to survive.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
No, I'm with you, but three twenty five five hours.

Speaker 8 (02:05):
That's not.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 7 (02:08):
That's why you can't wait.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Where are you at?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Where you're from?

Speaker 8 (02:10):
Where is the dismissed in.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
River Rouge in Detroit for Detroit?

Speaker 7 (02:14):
Oh you and Detroit?

Speaker 12 (02:16):
Okay, okay, I guess things are because I never heard
thus is crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, I paid higher than that. I mean, it's
quality because the simple fact is marijuana keeps stupid people tolerable.
You know who we got, so you know all all
that bs that Donald Trump keeps spitting out. I need
to medicate. I'm on nine did okay, and then I've
got I got to get something else off my chest.
It knowing I'm a weed smoker. My friends want to

(02:43):
give me makeup and stuff like that. I can buy
that for myself.

Speaker 7 (02:46):
I don't wear making.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I tell I tell them to put some money on
my books at the dispensary.

Speaker 8 (02:53):
Right, it is what it is.

Speaker 7 (02:55):
I love I love you for that. That is dope.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I mean because of the fact there if I tell
people like this, my renters say everything else is say,
but my marijuana. I can always need more.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
You know what.

Speaker 13 (03:08):
That's not a bad idea that they definitely should do that,
where people could actually put money on your marijuana books,
where people can get weed.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I'm not mad at that.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
So much.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
So if y'all go to Bowl's dispensary, they will actually
let you do that.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Anybody that knows me, don't give me no bullsh perfew
give me find me some weed. I need some quality cush.

Speaker 11 (03:34):
Yes, especially if it's three hundred and fifty dollars an hour.
Somebody need to help with that. You got to put
that on layway, you pay that all at once.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, I go about three folks times a week go down.

Speaker 11 (03:46):
Well, what do you do for a living that you
spend fifteen a week on weed?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Listen, we can't talk about that onsh You know one
other thing. I got one other thing to say. Donald
Trump mate, marijuana federal won't forget about that st shit.
I agree with y'all.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I'm right good bye, Mama.

Speaker 11 (04:08):
No for real, if he do that, I'm telling you,
everybody will forget legalized marijuana federally and pardon everybody that
got them marijuana charges federally. Anybody that's locked up for
a federal marijuana case, let him out.

Speaker 9 (04:21):
Oh man, people will forget that in a heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
You hear me.

Speaker 13 (04:24):
It's so to all the dispensaries in Detroit that got
us on. I know House and Mary Jane and House
of Dank. They always got us on.

Speaker 8 (04:29):
In the morning, So salute to them.

Speaker 13 (04:32):
All right, get it off your chest eight hundred and
five eight five one oh five one.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
If you need to vent hit us up now it's
the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Good morning, Ray right Ray Yo.

Speaker 7 (04:40):
Charla man, Yaffy, what up are we losing?

Speaker 5 (04:43):
This is your time to get it off your chest.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I got an indoor pool, outdoor pool.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 10 (04:49):
Get on the.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Phone right now.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
He'll tell you what it is we live.

Speaker 9 (04:52):
Good morning. Who's this Pece Shamon't get it off your chest?

Speaker 10 (04:56):
Hey, bro, I wanted to say, like when y'all shut down,
like he wasn't giving up. He was saying he was
gonna give, but he wasn't never coming back saying he gave.
You know what I'm saying, he gave, and then he
was gonna he was gonna give to ma charity. Oh god,
you know every day he said that, but in my ard,

(05:17):
I don't feel like he did it. And then for you, bro,
like every day you were saying you was giving. You know,
I was just like, I feel like you one of
them guys that give me something like for the cameras.
You know what I'm saying, Like every day bro, you
was I give to this and this, I give to
this and this.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Bro?

Speaker 10 (05:35):
How about you just.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, how do you know why I did that.
Would you like would you like to ask me why?

Speaker 10 (05:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (05:42):
Go ahead, bro, Because the food banks wanted to be amplified.
That was the whole point of that. That's why we bought,
you know, especially here in New York City. That's why
we bought the two people who were two of the
people who run food Bank NYC up here.

Speaker 9 (05:55):
They wanted to be amplified.

Speaker 11 (05:56):
And because of that amplification, you know, at least me personally,
I was able to provide like seven hundred, eight hundred
thousand meals for people. But they've had a they've had
record breaking numbers at the food banks because of people
amplifying you know, what they were doing. And it wasn't
just me. You got people like Tracy Morgan. Who else
is out there.

Speaker 10 (06:15):
I ain't saying that, I ain't saying they amplify. I
ain't saying don't amplify it. But I'm saying you always
had to say you you do this, you do this,
And then let me say this, bro, I'm from My
name is Shamon, I'm from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, but I live
in Georgia now. But and shout out to just I
think that bro, y'all amplify you amplify. I mean, you
push stuff out there and don't don't tell the other

(06:38):
side or don't have the other side story, you know
what I'm saying. Like just I said, I had to
say this just when I think it was Dame Dash
it came up there. You knew how to sit back
and just lay low, you know what I'm saying, and
not say too much to nothing. But that's what envy

(06:58):
and that's what Charlotte main. That's what y'all need to
learn how to do. Bro, when y'all don't really know
what y'all talking about, you know what I'm saying, Damn,
Because like like they said, y'all push your agenda out
there to the people, man, and that don't be cool
when y'all pushing the wrong agenda. And a real quick
example is Jesus' birthday ain't on the twenty fifth, and

(07:20):
y'all push that Christmas stuff like that's the like, that's like,
that's the truth. Don't stop killing our people with this
bad information. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Can I say something else to you?

Speaker 10 (07:31):
Yeah, go ahead, bro.

Speaker 9 (07:32):
I just let you.

Speaker 11 (07:32):
I just let you say a bunch of wrong stuff
and didn't didn't say anything.

Speaker 10 (07:36):
Okay, I know you didn't, Bro, I promise you didn't.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I just let you talk what you mean.

Speaker 10 (07:41):
But see, that's what I'm saying. It's a joke because,
like I said, you'll push your agenda, bro, and don't
know the truth of it. Bro, or you do. That's
what made me feel like y'all a part of agenda
too for the most part. And again that's why I
like just because she stay quiet on certain things and
it keeps her out of it. But Bro, don't push
the don't push agenda if you don't really know. You

(08:03):
know what I'm saying. Like like I said, when I
when you cut me off, tell me about Jesus and
show me a Bible word of twenty fifty of his birthday.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I never said that.

Speaker 9 (08:12):
I never said that I thought this.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Was Jesus birthday.

Speaker 11 (08:15):
What I said was being that y'all recognized this is Jesus' birthday.
Y'all don't even let Jesus headline his own birthday day.
The day that y'all say is Jesus' birthday, the day
that y'all say y'all should recognize Jesus birthday. Y'all don't
even let him. Headline it, y'all, let Frosty the Snowman
headline it. Santa Claus agenda.

Speaker 10 (08:33):
You're still pushing the agenda, bro, You're still pushing it,
just like Jesus ain't white. But but they still got
his picture up in all these churches of him being white.

Speaker 9 (08:42):
And ask you know what I'm saying, I ask you
another question, magic question.

Speaker 10 (08:45):
Go ahead, man, what do you like? I like my family,
I like my wife, I like living.

Speaker 9 (08:50):
But they don't like you.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I see it. I'm on Facebook all the time. They
don't like you. They say you come out of the man.

Speaker 9 (08:59):
They say you come to the.

Speaker 11 (09:00):
Dinner table, and you always coming in with all of
these conspiracy theories and you know, causing arguments with people.

Speaker 10 (09:06):
Hey, I bet you can't show me. I bet you
can't show me what Jesus is white. But he posted
everywhere around the world as he's white and in the
Bible and clearly say that he's black.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I don't think Jesus white either.

Speaker 10 (09:17):
But what I'm saying, you pushed an agenda.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know I don't think he's white.

Speaker 10 (09:21):
I agree with you, yeah, but I'm saying I'm saying this, Bro.
When I say that agenda. I ain't saying you pushed
the agenda right and now that Jesus is white. But
when you talk about Christmas and celebrating these holidays that
satanic and it ain't good like and you transform them
to you know, that's a good thing. That's a good thing.
Let's celebrate Thanksgivings to be thankful, Sir.

Speaker 11 (09:43):
I grew up, Sir, I grew up with Jehovah witness.
I didn't even grow celebrating holidays.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
What I like and that's.

Speaker 10 (09:47):
Sad, bro that you you the way you are being.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
What I like is what I like is the season.
I like the energy of the season.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
I like you like Thanksgivings.

Speaker 10 (09:56):
But the Native I mean the Native Americans got mastered,
massacred for Thanksgiving and you celebrated, and you like.

Speaker 8 (10:02):
I don't like.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I don't like things.

Speaker 11 (10:04):
Actually said, we shouldn't even recognize things given what are
you talking about?

Speaker 10 (10:08):
Okay, you got me on that one.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
You got me on that one.

Speaker 9 (10:12):
Have a nice day, sir. You appreciate your call.

Speaker 11 (10:14):
That's exactly what get it off your chances for Okay,
one hundred and five eighty five one five one is
the breakfast.

Speaker 13 (10:18):
Club Everybody's DJ v Jess Hilarrys Charlamage, the guy we
are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 7 (10:24):
You got a special guest in.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
The building, one of the best to ever do it.

Speaker 13 (10:27):
Celebrate in the twentieth anniversary of the Motivation One.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
On one Lady and gentlemen, j Z, what I'm doing,
What I'm doing?

Speaker 5 (10:35):
What's that You've never even knowing?

Speaker 8 (10:36):
How you feeling?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Brother Dahn right better than most? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Right.

Speaker 13 (10:41):
I was talking to somebody yesterday this is the other day,
and he was like, yeah, I'm on my way to
Jezy house.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm like for what He was like, I'm opening up
for Jesus. Thatas what you mean to open up. It's
like j Z DJ as a hobby, used to shut up.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
He was like, yes, DJ, Yeah, you know, I used
to DJ back in the day when I was you know,
young in the hood. You know what I'm saying. I
hustled up on the DJ set and I was just
going the hood just djil on people's porches. That was
kind of my thing. But that's how I got into music,
you know what I'm saying. So for me, it's just
like it's like a pastime. But you know, like the
Great Andre three thousands said, if you can't find a vibe,

(11:15):
you gotta create it.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
So I just invite dope people over to my crib,
you know what I'm saying, Curate it. You know.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
We might do some some red wine and Popeye's Chicken,
and I might throw the set.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
And we just get a cracking that.

Speaker 11 (11:30):
That's how you've been feeling like you haven't been finding
a vibe lately.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
We've been trying to create one.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
You know, I like to travel a lot, you know
what I'm saying, And I like to live, but also
I like to.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
You know, like turn people onto what I've learned when
I've been around the world.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
So it's just like different types of music, different types
of curations. So it's just dope to have people come
up to your houses you trust, and just vibe. You know,
people get tired of going our cameras everywhere. You know,
some very distinguish black people in Atlanta and they like
to really live. So I just like, come over to
my crib. Man, we just hang out, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (12:00):
It's dope, though, what is it like?

Speaker 9 (12:03):
Is it all rapid?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
No?

Speaker 4 (12:05):
No?

Speaker 13 (12:05):
No, no, it was like no, it was like you
played everything.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Yeah, house music, old school, Yeah, it's vibe. You know
what I'm saying. Yeah, I got so, I got a
little soap. Yeah I got a little something. You should
come nickall in life. You know what I'm sing.

Speaker 11 (12:20):
You're gonna tell about everybody in the house to radio
Everybody anniversary and one of the greatest hip hop albums?

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yes, yes, Yes.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
What does it feel like mentally to have to revisit
that era?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
To be honest with you, it feels like that album
was supposed to happen. Uh, and even twenty years later,
just the obstacles that I had to go through to,
you know, get this tour going and everything, it just
feels like, uh, deja vu.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
But the but the consequences are not dire. They just
like things and you got to show your adversity. And
it feels like I was.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Just talking to somebody about this other day. It's just like, now,
Soul Survivor really resonates with me. It makes sense, you
know what I'm saying. Because I'm a Soul surviving and
I'm listening to the words, I'm like, oh, this is me,
this is who I am. You know, when I wrote it,
it was a record. Now this is my life and
it's just like to be twenty because you gotta think,
like you think about Parc and Big. You know, what
would they what would they have done twenty years in

(13:26):
the game. You know what I'm saying, you celebrating all
eyes on me life after death twenty years later. You know,
I don't know, Park might have been DJ in his basement.
I don't know what I'm saying, but I'm living life
and I'm going through you know, one of those stages
where you know, you get to watch the game line
wash the streets.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
You know what I'm saying. I'm in this world, but
I'm not of it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
So I get to watch it. But at the same time,
I already put my work in so I get to
sit back. But I'm dealing with real stuff now, running
companies and doing deals and and you know, empowering other people.
So it's now I got to really practice my skills
of leadership, but with my catalog behind me, because I
can stand on that.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Because it's solid, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
So I'm not you know, I'm franking badly amazed. I
can keep going if I wanted to, but I don't
got to do.

Speaker 13 (14:15):
You have survivors remorse at all because I used to.
You have so many people that you ran in.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah, I used to. But everybody know me. They know
I'm solid, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
But at the same time, my life is about peace,
join freedom, and I ain't even I'm saying that to
say a lot of people don't survive the war, baby,
you know what I'm saying. It's like I ain't got
no reason to go back and then to prove you
know what I'm saying. I'm just trying to live my life,
make sure my people straight, you know, put me in
to people as I can put on and keep you know,
just you know, just inspiring and involving my culture, which

(14:46):
is why I'm even doing this symphony tour, which is
crazy because I think I'm the first one to ever
take a symphony around the world to do a tour.
You know what, I mean, to celebrate, you know, my
first Day You album, which is about three four times platinum.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
I ain't checked last time, but.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I can't motivation.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Yeah, and it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Because it's like, you know, the only time I remember
putting on the suit is for a funeral or adding.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
It's a celebration.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
And it's not just about It's not just about you know,
the music, It's about everybody who came along with his
journey with me. That will celebrate. Think about where you
was twenty years ago, you know what I'm saying, Where
you were twenty years ago, and where y'all at now.
It's a celebration of that because that music reminds you
of that time you was out there grinding.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
But look what you grind it too.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
So this is a reason for everybody put on a
suit in a nice black dress and come out and celebrating.
And I do want to say this, this is not no,
this is not the opera.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
You're not gonna sit down and cross your legs. This
is a party, you know what I'm saying. At the
same time, you know, shout out to Adam Blackstone. You
know he helped me produce it. The Hodges is uh,
he wrote the music, he's actually conducting it. Those brothers
are crazy about DJ Drama with me. So you know
it's a part that got DJ A's with me. It's
a celebration, I'm saying when.

Speaker 13 (16:05):
You were making this album twenty years ago, right, were
you just making songs or were you thinking the future?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Were you thinking catalog because you look at a lot
of people in the industry and that catalog is not strong,
right the first album, the catalog is not strong. They
can't go on tour. Were you thinking about that when
you're writing this first album or was it this I'm
just trying.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
To get out the hood.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I'm just I was just trying to stay alive and free,
and I just wanted to be heard. And the reason
why that album is so solid is because I put
everything in that. You know, I didn't have another shot.
You know what I'm saying. It wasn't like no label
was looking for me. You know what I'm saying. I
had spent all these all these all this money to
build this buzz, and I had this one opportunity. And

(16:45):
you got to think, like, I lost my voice, I
tore my vocal cords, you.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Know, had Bell's part.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Like all these things happened at one time, and I'm
just like I was humbled and the album got leaked
four weeks before it came out. Think about that. I
was up against all that, and I'm still like praying.
You know what I'm saying, And it happened. So when
I look back twenty years ago, like I didn't realize
what I was doing, but I know to change the

(17:12):
trajectory of my family and our generational wealth and getting
my family in a better place that this is all
I had, you know what I'm saying. So I put
everything in that trappa, dye in this. Yeah, everything by
the way, I probably you know it was riding around
you still getting it right, Statute of Libertations up. I

(17:33):
won't put that out there.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
You know.

Speaker 11 (17:35):
Interesting what you said about the record sole survivor, because
at that point in your life you had survived to
a certain extent, but you didn't.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
You didn't feel that way.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
No, I mean you got to think about it. I
didn't really even start celebrating life until the recession. Wow,
Yeah I was. I was out of it, bro, I
was drinking, smoking, living. I'm just holding on, you know
what I'm saying, because I didn't know then I woke
up one day It's like, damn' still free?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
You know you any more?

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah? And ain't nothing like that.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
That's some type of stress you don't even want, you
know what I'm saying, because it's just it's every day,
it never stops.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
And you're always on edge.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
You're living from uh you know, you're living from a
survival mindset, you know what I'm saying. And you know
when I woke up on that day when I started
to work on the Recession, that's when I realized what
abundance was.

Speaker 5 (18:21):

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I'm saying because now I'm like, I'm a superstar. You know,
I was telling them the other day, Man, I got
in the gym, got myself together. My first show in
Boston for the Recession tour. You know, I get the
stage and I'm telling the security guard, Hey, yo, they
throwing stuff at me. We got to get out here
and get down. He's like serving all their panties.

Speaker 7 (18:42):
Oh down like this.

Speaker 9 (18:45):

Speaker 3 (18:53):
You know, bros and stuff.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
But I'm like, Yo, this is this is different because
you gotta think when I was doing shows, when Doug
Motivation came out, all gangster was in the front. You
know what I'm saying, all the all the hustlers. It
wasn't no women. I didn't have any women fans, you know,
shut out to the women fans out there.

Speaker 12 (19:07):
You know what I'm saying, I'm shocked that you didn't
know that you were such a taxable.

Speaker 8 (19:10):
I'm really sitting here like, how did you not?

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I mean, you know, like in the you know, like
I didn't know that then, you know what I'm saying,
cause you got to think like back then when I
was doing you know, I was I'm five eight, I
was two sixty, skin bad, I want drinking water. My
dad was waffle house in Crystal. You know what I'm saying,
I'm partying all day because I didn't know if I was.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Going to be home for real. Yeah, I was in.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Big now.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, not get it now.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
I mean even on the intellectual level, like I know
that I can sit down and smart with the best
of them.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I know that for a fact.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
We saw you with Neil.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah shot and then I said.

Speaker 12 (19:49):
I was even saying a lot of women in the
common saying, oh after the divorce, man, he looked even better.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Oh wow, I received that.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
But I know that was like an intense time.

Speaker 12 (20:01):
You know, last year, you're going through all of that,
even with you know, the custody battle she did one
and everything.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Where are things with you on your ex.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Now, peace, yeah, peace, man. I just I'm I'm all
about understanding. I'm all about what's best for everybody, the
greater you know, the greater good. And it's just like
I'm just telling you, Like my life, I tell myself
this every day, like, man, this is amazing.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
I don't got no enemies, I ain't got no issues.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I don't want no enemies. I don't want no issues.
I just want peace. I just want joy, and I
just want freedom. I love my freedom. You know what
I'm saying, Like I love it, like you just talk
about I came up here independently. I just call like
I'm coming to the breakfast club. You know what I'm saying,
Like I ain't got to check in. I ain't gotta
you know, I ain't got to talk to no label.
I ain't got to do nothing to shout out of
death jah. I love y'all. But it's just like freedom

(20:49):
and ownership is everything. You know what I'm saying, Especially
when you're talking art, you're talking culture, you talking.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
To your mind.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
You know what I'm saying, Like I've worked hard my
whole life. This is like this, this is the season
of me, you know, what I'm saying. I'm putting myself first.
It all costs, you know what I'm saying, And it's
just like my piece is everything. Like everybody didn't know me,
know that, you know what I'm saying. They calm and
be like, yeah, bro, like I love people. Don't call
me even nothing crazy, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I want to ask, you know, how was that?

Speaker 13 (21:15):
Because you're very private, very private person, but that was
so public did irk at all? Like everybody in your
business talking about you.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Well, I had to come to the realization that I
know who I am and then nobody else can't tell
me different. So as long as I stayed on the
path of integrity and staying true to myself, it wasn't
nothing really to worry about because anybody didn't know me.
Like I mean, I even heard y'all was up here
like no, I know, I know JESU you know that.
But that's that's because my reputation exceeds me. I'm like,

(21:45):
I ain't on I ain't on nothing, you know what
I'm saying. That's I need to be you know what
I'm saying, and I'm not. So it's just like it
comes with the territory. You know what I'm saying, he
wears the crown. It's just like you know, people talked
about Jesus. You know what I'm saying, They're gonna talk
about everybody. Everybody's not gonna like you. Now, if I'm
a good person to you and you don't like me,
then there's a problem. But if you don't like me

(22:08):
because of what you heard or what you think, then
I ain't none of my spiritual business. I can't do
nothing about that. You know what I'm saying. I can't
even convince you because your mind has made up. However,
if you know me and we had some type of
interaction and action, I haven't done anything wrong to you,
then that says more about you than me, because now
you judging, now you judge me. There's no judgment here

(22:28):
because I'm not perfect by far. But if I haven't
done anything to you, then you can't take that position.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Because you know, the.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
People around me got real love for me and my
friends in my circle, like I never felt any type
of just but the people who wasn't for me of course,
and that I mean that did me a solid. Now
I ain't got even worry about cutting you off.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
You know what I'm saying, get married again, hitting me up.
I'm gonna be all the way honest. I love my freedom.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
And that has nothing to do and has nothing to
do with anything in the past. I just love my friend,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I love it. You know,
I think like partners are amazing, you know I would think.

Speaker 11 (23:11):
So, how did you feel when the Internet said you
were you were trying to holler at me along by
any means necessarily It wasn't lying, It.

Speaker 8 (23:19):
Was not lying.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Really, but I was real. Men, I never cheated, not
like that. No, I don't cheat me, not like that.
I'm saying, like that's a little hanging fruit. If I'm locked,
I'm like, then we got to be married. Like I'm
just not a cheater. That's like, I'm not gonna cheat
my friends. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
I'm not. I'm not. That ain't in my blood. But
but but you said I was trying to holler.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah I was, you know, but I had to be
respectful because I was still you know, finalizing, you.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
So it was hard. It was tough saying focus.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
They don't link you with everybody they don't link you.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
Everybodyianity.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
The other day when you did that.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
They would do that, they would do. We love Cynthia, man,
shout out to Cynthia. That's a home. You know what
I'm saying. No, now now the other one, Yeah, I
just said.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
That real quick. On the other one, Oh.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Absolutely everything is sized park. I'm gonna hit the park.
But I'm not gonna play about that.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
So you said you might see her at some of
these shows.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
I mean, listen, I know she has a beautiful black dress.
He's definitely inviting.

Speaker 11 (24:39):
I do want to know what what's the deep album
cut that you really enjoy performing off Doug Motivation One
on one.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Man, I mean, listen, bro, I can't get past Inchro.
You know what I'm saying. And you gotta you gotta
wait till you hear this with the with the symphony.
You know what I'm saying with the symphony. And I
need everybody know I'm comeming through your city. I'm coming
through your town. It's gonna be amazing one night only,
and you got to pull up. And going back to

(25:08):
your other question about me reaching back out, I think it's.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
More important for me to reach forward.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
So shout out the LISK who I just partner with
for my nonprofit space, and shout out to the Urban
League of Atlanta, who I rease out with for my
Young CEO program, because it's like.

Speaker 11 (25:28):
What is list I know you do that with the
Screams Foundation. Yeah, list is is. So we got two
things going right now.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
We definitely got the prostate cancer campaign going on, so
I had a couple of friends that go through that,
so we locked in there. But it's definitely for entrepreneurs,
young entrepreneurs, you know, tech spaces just you have it
like we're showing them how to set up their lives
so that they can win.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
And same thing with the Urban League of Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Same thing. We've got the Young CEO program. You can
go on my Instagram check it out. You know, anybody
from the age of what's the age of seventeen to
twenty four and we sent it up. We're putting them
with mentors all that and by the way, like this
is who I am, Like I love this And somebody
asked me, how do you do both? They're all the same,
you know what I'm saying. We still motivating. It's all

(26:15):
the same to me, you know it just we get
to jump on the stage and then we get to
go help some people prostate cancer. We get to jump
on the stage and we get to go help mentor
some kids.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
You know, I love it, and you're saving people.

Speaker 9 (26:26):
You know, people can live a much longer life if
they just go well.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
And I know I said this last time, but I
got to say it again because you saved me.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Brother.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Shout out to Charlemagne for my New York Time best
selling book Adversity for Sale, because I ran into a
situation where I had a issue with the publishing company
and I called Charlemagne, like, who published your book? And
he put me with somebody and we went on to
sell a New York Time bestseller.

Speaker 11 (26:51):
Yeah, so thank you, Thank you brother, Thank you for
all the years of motivation with the music Master.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
We appreciate you for joining us.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
I appreciate you, guys. Shout out to the Breakfast Club
sut to you.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, well there you have it. It's jeezy, it's the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 13 (27:04):
Good morningj NV just Hilariy charlamagnea gud We are the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Lon La Rosa is here as well, and we got
a special guest in the building.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
Thought he was up here.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
This is his first time.

Speaker 13 (27:20):
Yeah, that's what we're seeing you on the road, I know,
but I thought you've been up here, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
Hey man, thank y'all for having me.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Good morning.

Speaker 8 (27:31):
It's about till the money and everybody.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
We don't say good morning enough to our fellow brothers
and sisters, that's right. I was a victim of that
until I started to change my mindset. Sometimes I would
come down, get in the car going, you know, on
the road, I didn't say good morning. And once I
started to change my mindset, I realized that's a good
way to start your day in a gesture to someone
whoever you're riding with, you know, the driver, whoever.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
And then that's the feeling.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
Yeah. Yeah, sometimes that's also the case. Sometimes just say
how is your day gone? Or you know, I found myself.
Sometimes I'm a I'm really in tune to my spiritual side.
I've been for a long time. Sometimes I might just
be in I remember being in the club and I
might walk by a random person and I could feel
that energy and I'd be like, let me just give

(28:20):
you a hug, And sometimes that just changes somebody's life absolutely.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
What about that.

Speaker 11 (28:26):
What about when you were the person that might have
been creating the energy though, Like if you felt like
some aggressive angriness for this person, but it was your
fault because you did well.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
You know. I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
One time I was in South Carolina a and a
Hole in the Wall club and it was supposed to
be a night where cash money was supposed to be there,
and they called me.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
Because cash money couldn't come. So these folks in South
Carolina was mad then a mother if we was not
cash money.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Little johnn Eastside boys show up and so I understand
it's a hospital situation, but I said, I looked out
on that crowd and I said, the biggest dude in
this crowd, I'm about to make him my best friend.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
And I made him my best friend during the show,
like playing to him, giving him drinks and hyping them up,
and then he turned like it turned the whole crowd around,
and then they were fans of us after that. But
it was it was a way you can always change
the energy of a situation if you approach with a
calm manner. That's why good security don't go like try

(29:27):
to fight somebody.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
They try to diffuse the situation. That's the first rule
is diffuse it not be the aggressive.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Look, Little John, I want to go back, said, this
is your first time, real quick, what is a Little
John morning routine?

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Like I knew you were going to ask me that morning.
So this morning I woke up, had a little water
because you know, I do my I do this Korean
facial stuff, so I do skin. You know my skin
is very important to skin.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
Look, ladies, one rule for that is positivity, positive energy,
po the thoughts, because if you're a negative person and
all this negativity, it's gonna.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Wear the flesh.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
So get up in the morning and do my skincare routine,
brust my teeth, all that good stuff. I'm always in
my mind saying affirmations for the day, even before I
go to bed, in my dreams, Like last night, I
was like, it's gonna be a great interview. This is
I look at this as one of the biggest interviews
I've ever done in my life because it's a lot

(30:25):
to talk about. Charlotte, man, you you've seen me grow
from I think we one time we talked, you were
like you came to the radio station and in South Carolina,
one time. That was early on. He wasn't even on
air yet, right.

Speaker 11 (30:38):
I think it was a phone er you called in.
You had just put out I think you had just
put out be a beer.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Wow. So that's twenty years ago.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (30:46):
So we were talking about you having the Confederate flag
in the in the.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Video and I don't care about that.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
So that's you know, you've seen the growth, and it's
I think it's important because yeah, you've seen the growth.
You've seen it from a different angle. You've seen it
from a different angle. You've seen it from a different angle,
and you know, you guys moved the needle of culture
and you had everybody and their grandmama on this show.
So I think it's one of the most important and

(31:11):
you know, best interviews I think I'm going to have
because of all of that.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Let's claim it. I want to go back. I want
to start from the beginning.

Speaker 13 (31:19):
These are the interviews I love because for some reason,
I thought you've been up here before. So I want
to start when you first got into the music industry. Right,
let's start with you started working with Jamain dupri yep
ninety three.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Let's start from there. So how did you hook up
with Jamain dupri And what did you do for Jamaine Duprix.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
So I used to be in Atlanta in the nineties.
I was like the hottest DJ in the city. I
was the demand. I did all the parties and I
would see Jermaine all the time at the clubs. And
then I did this one club called the Phoenix Night Club,
which was the hottest nightclub in Atlanta at the time.
We brought Biggie. We brought Biggie. I got Biggie and

(31:55):
Craig Mac together when they did the Big Mac Tour,
got them. I worked on the radio station, but I
wasn't the PD.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
And you know how back then you had to go
through the PD because you wanted to get the spins
for your artists. So Diddy, you know, he let us
get Biggie and Craig because he thought I was like
the PD.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
And he get there and the club is slammed like
a million people, and he's like, YO, what the hell, Yo,
we need some more money because this thing is packed.
And then he found out that I wasn't the PD,
and so he was extrapist. And then he even tried
to get the rep that worked for BMG at the
time fired because she got because we got Craig and

(32:37):
Biggie for freaking wow.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
So yeah, that was normal back then when artists are
on promo tool.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
Like yeah, but you had you wanted to go through
the station so you can make sure you get the
spind can't get your look. And we wasn't that, but
we were hot promoters. So I was doing all the
hot parties and I would just see Jamaine all the time,
like even if I wasn't DJing, I was everywhere, like
I had a thing where I was I wanted to
be from. I called it from Bankhead to Buckhead. That

(33:03):
was from the boogie spots to the the most hood
you can get in Atlanta. So I was literally everywhere
and Jermaine came to me, so he hired me. In
nineteen ninety three, I started working at Social Death and
I was hired to do an R and street promotions
because I was everywhere right, so he wanted he wanted
someone that had respecting the city, that could go anywhere,

(33:24):
and someone like me that I was always out. So
that was represents Social Death from Bankhead, Like I said
to Buckhead, and.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
What artist did you have being in and off for
Social Death.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
At that time, I had I put together all of
the Social Death based all stars and that night.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
Yeah, and that changed. That changed music too, like it
gave us a whole genre that had never been created,
like had never been done before. And that all started
because in Atlanta we used to do like it was
DJ Jelly shout Out, DJ Jelly shout Out Uh, the
j Team, DJ Smurf and all of those guys. They

(34:04):
would take like slow jam acapellas, like say, one famous
mix was can You Stand the Ring?

Speaker 6 (34:12):
New Edition and put it over a base beat. So
they used to do all of these mixes like that.
They would just do a whole mixtape.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
It'll be all bass beats and then these R and
B A cappellas, and so I was like, we love
this so much in the city, let's take that and
make a record from that. Nobody made an actual song.
So I came up with that concept and I went
to my boy DJ Cool Collie aka Rodney, and then
at the same time I met CARLM. He used to

(34:42):
call the phone that Socio Death and and play his
tracks on the phone. Interesting story about that. So one
day I'm like, these tracks are dope. So I called
him to the office and he comes up there with
a freaking keyboard and plays the keyboard like just playing
the keyboard, not like no CDs, no cassette tape, just
playing the keyboard. And I'm like, this is crazy. So

(35:04):
I ended up using him and we did my Boo
and so yeah, I did all of the Soco Death
Base All Stars, and then out of that we had
Player Pancho. He got signed and we did a couple
of records with Player Pancho. And Player Pancho is actually
how I met the east Side Boys because Player Pancho
would always when he would go out, he would have
a whole like twenty ten twenty guys with him, and

(35:26):
the east Side Boys was always with him, even if
it was just like two or three guys with and
so me and the east Side Boys just one day
we were in the club and we just started chatting
this chant who who you with? Get who you with?
And then everybody in the club start chatting it. And
then I look at Big Sam, I'm like, we need
to turn this into a song. And so I know

(35:48):
I have access to people with labels and stuff, so
I called somebody I knew. Actually I called kou Ace Uh,
this guy named ko Ace and kol A's connected me
with this guy named Carlos Glover and we ended up
going in the studio and we made the song who
You With? And that started everything for a Little John
as an artist.

Speaker 11 (36:05):
I'm glad you mentioned Sam and Bolto because people always
seem to forget about the East Side Boy. What did
they bring to the table? What made Little John in
the East Side Boys such an amazing book?

Speaker 6 (36:15):
We were the sound of the rowdy guys in the
back of the club.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
That's where we were. Was turned up in the back.
Did you just be looking back like make sure they
ain't coming over here.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
With that good?

Speaker 8 (36:29):
So we were that.

Speaker 7 (36:30):
And what people don't understand about krunk music. I know
some people are like, why was it? Why did it
do what it do? Why did it spread? Why did
it become big? Because it was an outlet of energy
for black youth. When you went to the club, you
had a hard ass week, you had a hard life,
whatever the fuck was going on in your life. You
hear that in krunk music and you get in that

(36:53):
damn mos pit and you let all of that out
and you feel amazing.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
You know what I mean, so that's why crunk music
was able to reach so many people.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
That's why I still like going. Like I see you
talking about the time about knuck as you buckets the Negro,
and it is like it touches your soul in a
certain way. And I think we do and and like
crunk music tap into music to their ancestors because they
were chanting and so on and so forth.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
What did you do when you were a band from clubs?

Speaker 13 (37:24):
I remember in college there was some clubs that like,
you cannot play none of that in this.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
Club, put your hood up and all that stuff. We
just kept going because when you when you tell somebody
can't have it, they wanted more. You know. I've seen people.
I was in Louisiana one time we did a show
and they got so turned up they start fighting the
police in the club. Yeah, it was crazy. I think

(37:49):
it's just a testament to.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Like we just brought something different, you know, And like
the kids now think they are turning up.

Speaker 7 (37:56):
But they have no idea what a real turned up
time was from the two thousands.

Speaker 11 (38:03):
And get crunkd with such a great record, because I
didn't think you could get crunker than Kings of crunk.

Speaker 9 (38:08):
You know, I didn't think you could get crunkd in that,
But as soon as you hear who in my Beohagen
being me.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
Like God killed that salute Bohagen out there?

Speaker 11 (38:18):
How did you how did you even have the mindset
to take that to another level?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
How did you take that energy to another level?

Speaker 7 (38:24):
That beat was produced by Little j who produced Knock
if You Buck. So it was time to you know,
come and work on the album, and you know, everybody
down with be and me. Of course people that don't
know Crime Mob. Part of that was through being me,
so we are part of putting them out there. So
of course I called all of the squad, you know,

(38:44):
Treville helped me write some of the songs, and yeah,
Little Jay sent me, I think he sent me some
beats and that was one of the beats, and I
was like, this is insane.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
I thought it was one of the crukest beats ever too.
I think my favorite beats that I've produced are co
produced are on is get crunk and what You're Gonna
do and what You're Gonna do is unique.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
I was in New York when I did that beat.
I remember I was on TVT and Steve Gottlie and
shout out to Brian Leach, my boy, Brian Leach. She
was the antar at the time. He was like, Yo,
you gotta go in and knock out this song for
this I think it was like a Christmas album or
something Christmas crunk album that Steve Gottleie wanted to put out.

(39:27):
And I'm like, he can't put no fucking album out
called crump without me. So I'm like this guy. And
so I was in the New I was in New
York and Brian was like, you gotta go in and
record this song. So I was angry when I made
that beat. I'm never mad when I make tracks, but
that's one of the only beats I've ever made when
I was angry, And that's why it sounds so aggressive,

(39:49):
because I was mad that I had to go in
the studio and record this. I wanted to just go
out like I was like, I'm going going to the club.
He was like, no, you gotta go and do this song.
And so that's my anger coming out through the drummers.

Speaker 9 (40:01):
Do you have a trademark the word crunk?

Speaker 5 (40:04):
I can't remember.

Speaker 7 (40:05):
Probably did all my ad libs.

Speaker 11 (40:08):
I know that because you're the face of crunk. But
to me, I would have to give I would take
three six Mafia probably though.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
So that's another argument going around. It's an argument that
says Memphis started crunk. Here's here's my here's what I
will say. We in Atlanta. You couldn't be Atlanta in
the nineties and not be listening to eight ball MJG.
You couldn't be riding around not listening to master P.
Master P. Master P changed the landscape of the South,

(40:38):
the South period, right. He was the first one that
really got us rally. I would say it was master P,
but we was listening to Balling G And of course
three six Mafia came around that.

Speaker 9 (40:49):
Do you think you got us rooty before three six?

Speaker 7 (40:51):
I think about it.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Bout out about it, yeah, but tear the club up?

Speaker 7 (40:56):
The club was ninety seven? What yet about it? About
it come out?

Speaker 3 (41:00):
I was in college.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
I think it was like I remember what happened was
in the club in Atlanta. It was playing bass music
and then when master P came that was over about it.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
About that was ninety five. Definitely, that was a freshman
of college.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
That was the record more than the hood was getting
no limit tattoos.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Exactly. That's what changes for us. So I will say
Memphis is part of the influence, but it started for
us with master p Master about it about it just changed,
but we are influenced, but it's all different sounds, but
it all intertwines and works together.

Speaker 11 (41:37):
What moment made you realize Crump had officially crossed from
severing energy to a global.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
Move coming up doing MTV.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
They let me get in Times Square on a double
decord bus with a little scrappy.

Speaker 8 (41:51):
On TRL doing what you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Bruh, MTV.

Speaker 11 (41:57):
I was gonna say MTV too, because I remember watching
the Video Music Awards.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I forgot what year it was.

Speaker 11 (42:03):
They played get Low going into commercial break and the
audience went crazy and justin Timberlake was wild and imber
thinking to myself, Oh, get Lowers out of here.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
Yeah, and then we end up performing get Low at
the MTV Video Music Awards. Get Low, Yeah, lean back.
That was a pretty insane year for me.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Can you tell us the origin story of Lovers and Friends?

Speaker 7 (42:26):
So in Atlanta we go to Strip club for everything,
so we always in it, you know. I was in
the strip club one day and the DJ played the
Michael Sterling Lovers and Friends, and I was like, huh,
that could be pretty cool for Usher to do. So
let's let's back up. So this is before Usher's album
is done. I give Usher the Michael Sterling on the City,

(42:49):
like check this out. We should do this over this
don't listen to it. He don't listen to it, so
we on my album. So I'm like, I'm gonna take
that Lovers and Friends idea and do it for my album.
So I do the beat over and I let Usher no, yo,
I got this joint for us, like come you know,
let's do it. So he flies in, he records it,
and he's out and after he does his part, so

(43:11):
I'm just like, wow, smash. So I called Luda. I'm like, bro,
we got another one, like I need you on his
asap saying it Luda. He did his parts and then
I go in last because I'm not the rapper, and
so I was like, I need to take my time
to make sure my verse is as catchy as possible
because I can't compete against Ludacris. And then it's Usher

(43:33):
like come on. So I was like, let me take
something from this record. We had a record called it's
a record we did with Ubi. I forgot the name
of it, Nothing Free, Nothing Free.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Do you forget that? That's Nothing's free?

Speaker 7 (43:47):
So we did nothing Free like in the nineties, and
so I was like, that shawty part was really catchy
on that song, but it was regional. Nobody really heard
it out of the South. So it's like, let me
take that same little thing and put that in Lovers
and Friends and that will be the little catch for
my verse to make it catchier and a little Did
I know that that was gonna be like people's favorite

(44:09):
verse because it's so simple. It's so simple and it's catchy,
and yeah, that's one of That song went number one without
a video because it was the labels and Superstarists and
superstar ad and Da Da Da Da dada. But number
one song rap song of the year without a video
in the two thousands is impossible.

Speaker 12 (44:31):
What made you do the Meditation album? So that's totally
far the other end of the spectrum.

Speaker 7 (44:38):
Yeah, turning fifty, turn fifty, a lot of things started
to happen in my life. First thing it hit me
was like I asked myself what makes you happy? And
I said, damn. Only making sure everybody else good, but
that's not what makes me, like what makes me happy?

(44:59):
I could really tell myself, and so I was like,
you know what, I need to kind of put myself first,
Like I'm not happy in this marriage. Like so said,
I wanted the divorce. Also, around the same time, me
and my my good friend Doug Davis, we talk like
every year because he calls and gives me because he's
he's like a couple months younger than me, so he's like, oh,

(45:22):
you're old man. So we're talking and he was telling
me he wanted to introduce me to somebody that was
in this space and I was like, oh, that's interesting
because I've been listening to like all of this like
b neural beats to sleep and relax and ocean and
rain and all of this type of stuff. So me

(45:43):
and this guy ku Bear his name is kaber Sego.
We connected and so I'm going through the divorce and
like I didn't like where my mental state was at
because I'm angry. I'm like, ah, why can't she just
do this and that? And so I'm like mad, and
I don't like, that's not me. I'm a positive at
all times person. I don't think negatively. So I started

(46:06):
to like meditate every day. I started to say affirmations
every day, and it helped me to be in a
better mental state, as well as having good people in
my corner, like my queen, her name is Tomla. She
was there for me at that time, and she would
give me like also like just positive. She would just
keep me, try to keep me in a positive mindset.
And she had been through a rough divorce too, so

(46:28):
she can give me some insight and just you know,
help me keep my head up. So we went in,
we recorded these albums, and you know, this time of
my life is feeling like I'm doing what God intended
me to do. But what's amazing is everything that got
me here I was supposed to do. And even like
all of the music that I've given people gave people positivity.

(46:51):
So it's always been positivity, but it's meaning more now
When someone tells me I never meditated, you helped me meditate.
I was having trouble getting over this grief of losing someone.
Your meditation about grief helped me. I'm inspired to you
know how many people have called me about getting in

(47:11):
the gym. Yeah, it's insane, like celebrities, all kinds of
people are like, you inspired me to get healthy. So
I feel now like I'm doing what God intended me
to do. It took me a long time to get here,
but this is just the time it's supposed to be.
And crazy. I was thinking about this the other day.

(47:32):
I met mister Farrak Khan at the Source of Wards
and he basically told me, he said, you got power,
you got a voice, and he basically was kind of
trying to tell me, like use it and that like
that stuck with me, Like I'm like, okay, but now
I'm using my voice and my power in a good

(47:53):
way to push positivity into the world.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
So that is what makes you happy.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
That's what That's what you know. Yeah, it makes me happy.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
Just to be just to do good, you know, just
to do good because all that comes back and when
you like, a guy came to me, I did the col.

Speaker 6 (48:16):
Of guard thing, right, A guy came to me in
the club one night in the club and was like,
I did that col of guard test because of you,
and it came back positive.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
And he did he didn't have colon cancer, but he
had polyps. So just stuff like that, it just makes me.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
Feel like I'm doing good in the work, spiring people
and being a good role model to my son.

Speaker 7 (48:41):
I have a daughter now, you know, she's ten months old.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
Congratulat.

Speaker 7 (48:45):
I look at life like with health like I got
to be here for her, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (48:52):
I got to be here for her first day of school.
I gotta be here for high school graduation and walk
her down the aisle. So health is even more important
than me.

Speaker 7 (49:01):
It was something I was doing to just, you know,
live a long, full life, but even more so now
I have even more motivation because my daughter and her mother,
I got to be here for them, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (49:10):
So it's crazy to see you cry because a lot
of people who never even thought you had ice.

Speaker 7 (49:15):
No, you know what, black man, we need to cry.
So we need to cry. When you get more in
tune to your higher self and you stop vibrating at
these low frequencies, you can let yourself let the energy flow,
because we should.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
We don't have to be tough all the time. And
you're an advocate for therapy. I push all brothers that
we don't have to suffer in silence. We suffer in
freaking silence. Call your homie sometime to just be like
you good, how you doing, not just period, but how
you mentally doing?

Speaker 7 (49:46):
Bro Because that one little.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Conversation could make him not go do some stupid or
take his life or whatever.

Speaker 7 (49:53):
You know. So I started doing therapy. I push anything,
any knowledge.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
That I got, I try to share with every everybody
because we got to help each other.

Speaker 8 (50:03):
We all we got.

Speaker 7 (50:06):
Y'all got me up here crime.

Speaker 8 (50:11):
To release.

Speaker 11 (50:13):
Do you think people truly understand the loneliness that can
come with success and entertainment.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
Uh No, because they just see the private jets and
the trips and all that. They don't realize. You know,
sometimes you can't go nowhere because people bugging you. You
can't spend time with your loved ones without people bugging you,
or the the I gotta make another hit record or
you know what I mean like or even when you

(50:40):
start to go down, you're not as hot as you were,
people not picking up the phone and all that. Yeah,
it's a lot of most people couldn't deal with this life.
It could not deal with it because there's too much pressure.
Then people on the internet with all their opinions and
all of this and that and it's a lot of
pressure that you cannot be built weak to be entertained industry.

Speaker 11 (51:01):
When you when you my last question, when you think
about legacy now, how much of it is about peace
and purpose rather than I guess the plaques and the
parties and all that.

Speaker 7 (51:09):
I think my legacy is gonna be all about positivity
because every step of the way it's been crunk was positive.
It was a positive release. Now in my latter years,
it's meditation, mindfulness, Get therapy, fellas, I'm gonna tell everybody
out there, get therapy, get a therapy. If it's going

(51:30):
through it. You should not be left to your own
devices to deal with some serious issues. Sometimes you need
to talk to someone that's a qualified person. And I
did EMDR. Did you ever do MDR? I never did EMDR?
Is amazing because it taps into your subconscious. When I
did em DR, stuff came out that I didn't even

(51:50):
really didn't know what's there. So it can tap to
the it can find the root of why you got
that trump. I was able to go to my childhood
self and think it's okay, wow, I'm here, it's fine,
You're you're loved, you're appreciated, you know all of that,
and it helped me to get past whatever that was.

(52:11):
And the more you do it, the more stuff comes
to you, and you just realize, this is why I'm
the way I am. I can now get past this
and I can change these habits, you know, and I
can be living. I can live a better life.

Speaker 11 (52:26):
Wow, man, little John, you are an icon, one of
the greatest producers of all time.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
You bought people so much joy.

Speaker 11 (52:33):
In this next chapter of your life when you are
helping people heal, I think it's gonna be your best
work yet.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
My brother, I do to breakfast club good morning.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
I mean trying to be donkey today.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
No more.

Speaker 9 (52:46):
They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm
not making new people do these days called.

Speaker 12 (52:49):
Donkey of the day, and it really caught me off guard.
Damn Solomon, who got the donkey out of the day today?

Speaker 11 (52:58):
Well, just hilarious donkey today. It goes to Ann and
Bernard and mcdono. Okay, they are thirty nine and forty
one years old, and I am reluctantly giving them donkey
of to day this morning, because truthfully, this is one
of the most romantic stories I've ever heard See, when
you're in a relationship, you are always looking for new
things to do. Okay, new things to try with your
significant other. You have to keep things interesting in the

(53:20):
relationship and needs two absolutely did that.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Let me read the headline for you.

Speaker 11 (53:27):
The headline is dine and Dash couple busted for hitting
five restaurants for twelve hundred dollars in free meals. I repeat,
dine and dash couple busted for hitting five restaurants for
twelve hundred dollars in free meals. See what it happened
was Ann and Bernard have been accused of dining at
five different restaurants, all within a thirty mile radius of

(53:48):
each other, and leaving without paying their tab. Before you ask,
from the pictures, I see, yes, they are big backs, Okay,
wide bodied individuals, all right. One of them so big
that if she wore yellow, kids would run after her
thinking they missed.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
The school bus.

Speaker 11 (54:03):
Respectfully, Okay, Now, these folks just weren't going to different restaurants,
you know, to get an item here or there. You
know how, you may order some chicken from KFC, but
then you know, get your sides from Popeyes. No, these
individuals who are so big they could sit on Walmart
and make the prices go down. We're eating full blown
meals at these establishments. Okay, this is the epitome of

(54:23):
big back activity. See, God can't bless what you pretend
to be, so you need to be yourself. And if
you are yourself, a blessing as big as Anne's back
is on its way to you.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Now, let's be clear. This is gluttony to the highest degree.

Speaker 11 (54:37):
Because the couple used to go to these restaurants and
they would go with a party. At six they would
order and eat large meals, which often costs upward of
four hundred dollars. They would eat quickly and then four
members of the party would exit, leaving and behind and
and would be with a little small child like a
four year old child. They would leave and behind to

(54:57):
pay the bill and would act like she was paid
and the bill okay with a card. Then the card
would get declined. Then she would say she needed to
get another card from the car. She'd walk to the car.
They'd ask the little boy to stay and wait for
her in the restaurant, and then when the woman would
get to the car after about ten fifteen seconds, the
little boy would run out to the car man the

(55:19):
clumpson's wild.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Okay, what I don't understand is if you can put.

Speaker 11 (55:24):
This much energy into a crime of food consumption, how
come you can't put that same energy and.

Speaker 9 (55:29):
To unbiggin your back?

Speaker 11 (55:31):
And furthermore, if you can put this much energy into
being a snack scammer, how come you can't put just
as much energy into getting the job so.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
You don't have to steal from people?

Speaker 11 (55:40):
Not The owners of these restaurants would call police, but
police would tell them this isn't an emergency and all
they could do is report the incident.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
This is disgusting.

Speaker 11 (55:48):
You called the police to report or herd the humans
coming into your establishment and stealing, and nobody does anything.
But imagine the urgency that would happen if they called
and said that restaurant just got invaded by a herd
of buffalo. Every single law enforcement division would show up
and animal control to get this herd of buffalo under control.
So the same sense of urgency should be applied to

(56:11):
a herd of humans who are as big as buffalos. Now,
what's even saddern As an owner of the restaurant said,
they sent CCTV recordings, I guess those are the camera
recordings from the restaurant. They would send the recordings from
the restaurant, they would send photos, They even sent the
registration plate number of the car. And the response from
law enforcement was, this vehicle is connected to many people.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Well go investigate all the many people.

Speaker 11 (56:36):
Then now we can take that for what it is
and say, hey, the vehicle is connected to many people,
or we can say one of these individuals is so
big that they get mistaken for many. When fifty cent
said many men wish death upon him, we knew that
meant a lot. So you know how big one person
got to be for you to refer to them as many.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
To be fair, though, the whole party not.

Speaker 11 (56:57):
Big Backs, just like two of them, and they white,
so they look like Twitter eggs from twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
But let's think about the bright side of this.

Speaker 11 (57:06):
I know a good romantic comedy when I hear one,
Just call Alvin Gray right now, Okay, call Alvin Gray.
Were about to go into production on Loving Big Backs
Coming to to be real soon. Opening scene, opening scene.
We're gonna show them getting baptized at Sea World. Oh no,
what hold wait a minute, I got a better name

(57:26):
for this romantic comedy. We can change Anne's name to
Stella and call it how Stella got her big back.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
That's it. That's it right there.

Speaker 11 (57:38):
Please please give Anne and Bernard McDonald the biggest he hafed.
And let's not forget what they did is wrong and
that's why they were arrested in charge with five counts
of fat fraud and charge with four counts of theft.

Speaker 12 (57:54):
Jesus, well, rightfully, so that's right, said fat fraud?

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Yes, yeah, Jesus. But I know they didn't put regular
handcuffs on them either, but that's a whole different How
and got her big bag?

Speaker 11 (58:07):
Yes, you just gotta we gotta change your name to
Stella though we changed the name of Stella for the movie.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Yeah, how Stella got her big back?

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Oh oh boy?

Speaker 3 (58:16):
All right, what do we call Alvin Gray?

Speaker 8 (58:19):
I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna call him.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Although Alvin Gray.

Speaker 12 (58:23):
Do have a movie called check Please where they run
out on checks. No watch it.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
It's on Amazon, Prime, YouTube and tv.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Is.

Speaker 12 (58:40):
Believe it's called check Please, and they do. That's the
movie about uh guys running.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Out on the check. But it's funny.

Speaker 12 (58:48):
It's like it's a it's a storyline behind and everything.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Man, you is not lying. I just looked it up.
Man man hold on, man hold on.

Speaker 11 (58:58):
Alvin Gray got the rapper who got shot in the hill,
the nurse that saw the baby on the highway and
check please. Oh I got a hold now this when
I got the watch. He got one called Blackwater sa Squash.
Oh my god, that's the number one. No, that's the one.
You gotta say. Blackwater Sasquatch is really good.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
It's about Bigfoot.

Speaker 12 (59:18):
I ain't gonna tell you it's going on here, but
it's good. That was it's black though. It like blackfelt.

Speaker 11 (59:25):
I'm watching that. That's gonna get me the two B.
I'm watching that today and it's free. Oh my goodness.
Jesselrie Charlamine the guy. We are the breakfast club. We
got a special guest in the building.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Yes, indeed, JD.

Speaker 8 (59:37):
Jermain Dupree. What's happening?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
How you feeling?

Speaker 9 (59:40):
You're looking at the wall.

Speaker 8 (59:41):
You're looking at the wall.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
We ain't got j D on the wall.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I don't think.

Speaker 8 (59:46):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I made the wall.
That's all right, that's got JD on the wall. Yeah,
got me up there.

Speaker 11 (59:52):
We see the wall represents like iconic breakfast club moments.

Speaker 9 (59:57):
Not that you haven't given us great interview.

Speaker 8 (01:00:00):
I haven't had it, you know what I'm saying. You
have had some you know, studio. I'm out of that.

Speaker 11 (01:00:12):
I'm not in that conversation, but you have always come
in and gave given us great conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:00:16):
And I've been enjoying the Magic City docuseries, and it
got me to thinking about like just Atlanta. Like in
Atlanta has had a lot of different runs as far
as music is concerned, but what is Atlanta culture exactly?

Speaker 9 (01:00:30):
Is this? Is it the script clubs?

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
Yeah, that that's one of the things, skating. It's a
bunch of different things like the bass music and a
bunch of different things.

Speaker 8 (01:00:41):
But we haven't we've never really highlighted.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
These things the way I guess I'm trying to do
and make sure that people understand that that's what it is,
because I think like people think, like even with the
strip club situation, it was me and whoever else was
promoting this from a long time ago, just black people
trying to promote strip clubs. And you learned from the
documentary that this was a law that was passed in

(01:01:05):
the city and might be more states in this, you
know South, that nudity was something that they opened the
floodgates and made it a business.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
So even me growing up, I never.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Realized why it was so many strip clubs in Atlanta.
It was a strip club, damn on every corner or
in every hood in Atlanta, and I never understood. I
just thought we was just a strip club place. But
when you look at this documentary, you start going outside
and looking at all the other places, like in Florida
and all these other places, You're like, oh, it's a
law that was passed, right. And I used to come

(01:01:39):
to like New York when we used to do things
and wherever. I go to other cities and be like, man,
why these cities ain't popping like Atlanta with the strip clubs,
And the law is a real law that gave us
the entryway to just have this going.

Speaker 8 (01:01:53):
So there, that's a that's an Atlanta thing. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
It's Magic City, the biggest strip club and the most
recognizedrip club in the US.

Speaker 6 (01:02:01):
No, I think, I mean, I think it's been it's
been a couple you.

Speaker 8 (01:02:05):
Know, over the years.

Speaker 6 (01:02:06):
I think Magic is in the top three, of course,
but like booby trapping Miami King of Diamonds when I mean,
you know, Miami's always had you know what I mean,
They've always had these trip clubs.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Turn over and be live.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
I think that's Houston. So I think Houston, it's a
couple of places that's got. But I don't think Houston
can get naked though.

Speaker 8 (01:02:29):
That's the thing. It's like we're talking about nudy is
far strip clubs. It is Miami, and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Yeah, Atlanta was nudy nudity.

Speaker 11 (01:02:38):
Atlanta need that infrastructure now because that's what when I
think about Magic City, I know people look at it
as just the ball, but when I'm watching The Doctor,
even just growing up, I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Think of it as infrastructure. Some people with the break records, I.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
Say, I mean, that's the that's the thing. Like I
was going to answer your question. The reason why I
wanted to do it is because, you know, we don't
talk about the places that actually helped us get to.

Speaker 8 (01:03:02):
Where we are.

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
You know what I mean, That part of hip hop
stopped a long time ago. Like when you watch like
Wild Style, right when there's a person that's not from
New York.

Speaker 8 (01:03:11):
I watched Wild Style.

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
You can see like how Grandmaster cads them what they
was doing to become and made what made hip hop
turn into what it was here in New York. And
in the later years of hip hop, what shows or
anything show kids how we got you know what I mean,
how we got to where we are. And I think that,

(01:03:32):
you know, it's important for black establishments to show like
it's a forty year old black establishment.

Speaker 8 (01:03:40):
The owner went to jail.

Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
They tried to sell his property, he took it back
over and now it's back popping. Then that he got
a TV show Like that's American dream, you know what
I mean, Like, regardless of whatever good or bad, it's
a Black American dream that we don't ever really be
talking about infrastructure now, Huh is it needed?

Speaker 8 (01:03:58):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:04:00):
I mean we needed more than any of everybody. I mean,
not just Atlanta, like a bunch of cities need to.
It's probably a bunch of other cities that's got like
forty to fifty year old black establishments that that I
don't even know about.

Speaker 13 (01:04:11):
What do you think ruined strip clubs? Because at one
time there was a strip club in every city. They
were always big. There was fifteen in Atlanta, there was
ten in New York. What do you think ruined the
strip club safety?

Speaker 8 (01:04:23):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
I think that's why Magic stands out so much because
you can go in Magic with all your jurey on.
You can go in Magic and be the biggest star
in the world and be standing next to the biggest
criminal in the world. But whatever would happen somewhere else
ain't getting ready to happen in Magic. And I say
that proudly because even me, I go to Magic without security,
like because the security in there gonna take care of

(01:04:45):
me like they like if they was.

Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
Working for me. And I feel like it's the safest
club in Atlanta. So I feel like that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
I feel like the safety of strip clubs and how
Magic ran the club strip club attiquette, I think that
is that that's what.

Speaker 8 (01:04:59):
Killed rip clubs for the most part.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Also, I notice, you know, growing up, when we used.

Speaker 13 (01:05:04):
To go to strip clubs, you go with a couple
of dollars, right, and you would you would be fine
all night.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
That's totally changed.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
That's that's just your mental okay, right, That's just it's
mental space.

Speaker 7 (01:05:14):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
If Magic City is like overly crowded. I'll go stand
by the bar and I might spend five one hundred
to one thousand dollars, you know, And by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Day that's a lot of money. Talk about a hundred
dollars thousand dollars at the bar.

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
I'm just saying. Let me put this perspective.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
I said, what's happened the other night when Chris Brown
was in Atlanta? They spent two hundred thousand dollars in
Magic City. So my little five hundred to a thousand
that corner.

Speaker 8 (01:05:44):
Is like one hundred dollars. Man, Because I when.

Speaker 11 (01:05:49):
People say those numbers and I'm like, I don't believe it.
I swear to God because I've been godred.

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
Thousand God a hundred went to Chris, right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
I've seen people want a undred thousand singles.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
Yeah, I mean one hundred went to Christ without a
doubt and magic in Magic they go when you when
you order the money, they bring a Magic City bag
and backpass for you backpack. So the backpack had a
hundred in it. Jadea waiter, y'all know, ja, she got
about a dog, right. I think maybe more p from QC.

(01:06:21):
I think he ordered forty right then, and that you know,
that's that's one sixty right there.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):

Speaker 8 (01:06:27):
Chris By himself had one hundred. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:06:29):
So if you start splitting it up, I think Booo
probably got ten or fifteen twenty.

Speaker 8 (01:06:33):
You were two hundred fast.

Speaker 11 (01:06:35):
So when you was in the back of the day
with BMF, how much did you see them spend that.

Speaker 8 (01:06:39):
One on my album?

Speaker 6 (01:06:41):
I have a conversation with Meach and he says he
spent six hundred thousand dollars one night.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
That's insanity, that's crazy. What's the most you spent? And
now using there with Jannet, what did you spend?

Speaker 8 (01:06:50):
I mean, had I had a limit?

Speaker 6 (01:06:52):
Like when everybody heard me say I spend ten thousand,
that was my limit. So once I got to that ten,
I wasn't trying. But by the way, I'm not in
that compete. I always felt like, you know, at one
point in time when BMF came or when BMF grew,
because I've been in the club with Meet for a
long time before BMF was a crew like that, and

(01:07:13):
we used to be at the Gentlemen's Club back and
when you watched it the episode where Magic supposedly was
burnt down or whatever, and everybody went to the Gentlemen's Club.
That's back in the period of time when I actually
met Meech and Meech didn't have the crew of people
with him, and we was in the Gentleman's Club, and
in the Gentlemen's Club, it was like, well he signed.
We wasn't really throwing the money. We was just like

(01:07:35):
giving the girls the money, right. And that's that's where
the whole confusion about who started throwing the money came from,
because I start I started doing this in Money and
the Thing video, and I know people want to say
they did it and did it when you find a
video that came out before Money and a Thing where
you see rappers throwing money like this, right, and that
I never had a Like it wasn't about me trying

(01:07:57):
to challenge nobody. It got it got to be like
when reaching them crew came and it was like, oh damn,
they throw more money, we got to throw.

Speaker 8 (01:08:05):
It became like a money war. I was never I
was never part of that.

Speaker 11 (01:08:08):
When I think about Mariah Carey getting, you know, the
accolade she got the other night at the VMA, I
don't know if that happens without you. And what I
mean by that is Mariah had a fantastic career, but
that album was like a comeback album that kind of
solidified her forever.

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
I was talking to her about this before yesterday, and
I was saying, like, it would have happened without me,
but Mariah, listen, Mariah is such a New York hip
hop person that she wants to gravitate towards this shit, right,
as opposed to like promoting the Boys the Men record,
which was no song her first song of the decade.

Speaker 8 (01:08:46):
Right, she ain't even perform that song.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
The other night, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
she got records that's bigger than the records I did
that She just like, yeah, you know we're gonna ready
do this tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:08:57):
This is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
I listen. I love it because I'm a part out
of it. But don't get it twisted. These songs is
you know what I mean? She got records that she
could do that's like hero, you know what I mean?
These songs that's huge that made her Mariah has sold
thirty million.

Speaker 8 (01:09:11):
Records before I even worked with her.

Speaker 11 (01:09:14):
You know what I'm saying, Like that charm Bracelet, and
then that was it was that movie called I don't
even remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
It was a bad it was dark.

Speaker 8 (01:09:22):
Yeah, but one one black Eye can't kill you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
No, that's true.

Speaker 11 (01:09:25):
But then you came back to the mass vision of
me me, and that's that's a nuclear bomb.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
I mean that's not a normal album.

Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:09:33):
I just I always look at that like, I'm really
I can't take credit for Mariah.

Speaker 8 (01:09:37):
She's she's who she is, and she was who she
was before.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
I you know, I'm just happy that she let me
be a part of the ride.

Speaker 11 (01:09:43):
I think that puts more pressure on you, though. And
what I mean by that is when you're tasked with
going in there with the iconic person already and creating
something that gets them, you know, back seeing the way
that they were seeing before that, you know, last flop.

Speaker 9 (01:09:57):
That says a lot that she was able to accomplish
that then to put press I would think so back then, nah,
because I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:10:03):
Think about it like, you know, like the thing about
it is when I go in to studio people I
don't be like, I don't get caught up on what's
happening in their life. And I think that that was
what was going on in her life outside of the studio.
I go in the studio and I'm like, I say
this all the time when I when I work with
Aretha Franklin. She made me realize, like, listen, if you're
gonna be in here working and I'm gonna pay you

(01:10:23):
and we're gonna let you get this credit, you better
say what you gotta say. If I sound bad, if
I don't even sound halfway good, she was like, tell
me to do it again. And I'm like, I can't
tell Rita Franklin. Nothing like this all Rita Franklin. But
the way she was talking to me was like, I
flew you here to Detroit to cut my vocals, So
what you're gonna do. You're gonna sit there and there

(01:10:45):
and watch me or if if that's I'm going home.

Speaker 8 (01:10:47):
That's what she told me. She's literally I'm going home.

Speaker 6 (01:10:50):
That's what you're gonna do. And that's when I set
there for me and I'm like, you know what, I
gotta do this. I just gotta be brutally honest with artists.
And when it came to mancipationing me and me we
belong together. We made the song like listen, right if
you don't hit to know that at the end of
the record, the record ain't gonna be what people want
the record to be. They want you to that's that's
what they want. We got to give them what they want.

(01:11:12):
And it was like nobody else wanted to say this.
I had to say it, and I have to be like,
you know, if you don't like me for saying what
is real?

Speaker 8 (01:11:19):
Then while we in the room together.

Speaker 13 (01:11:22):
What was one of the artists that didn't like you?
Being brutally honest, I was like, Nah, this is not
for me.

Speaker 8 (01:11:26):
Nobody. I don't think nobody. I mean I think everybody
want they don't want to address it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
But when it's right, they're like, oh, okay, you know,
but a lot of them like you know bout I
didn't like Oh, I think they like me.

Speaker 13 (01:11:40):
Usher didn't like you wrestled with him every time you
understood that that's what's balance.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
But I'm saying Usher didn't like you make me want
them And you have to sit there and be like, man,
why what do you what are.

Speaker 8 (01:11:50):
You listening to that make you not like this song?

Speaker 11 (01:11:53):
What was it about the emancipation of me me that
got her back to where she needed to be. Was
it the freedom that maybe you provided because I started
Brat telling this story about how Tommy Matola got guns
pulled on you because you let Mariah go to burn I.

Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
Didn't let them do nothing. They pulled off and went
on their own. But yeah, we'll.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Tell the story. I don't know the story, Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
So the first time I started working with Mariah, I
decided to do it always be my baby remix, right.
So I brought Escape and the Brat to her house
that was out in upstate with her and Tommy. And
this was the first time me I started bringing my
people around Mariah and I brought Brat.

Speaker 8 (01:12:34):
Her and Brat kicked it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
They hit it off, and she convinced Brat or either
Bratt convinced her, let's take a trip in the car,
just me and you.

Speaker 8 (01:12:43):
And go to McDonald's or some more together. He left
the ground without.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
Me knowing and showed up in the studio like what's
going on. I'm like, I seen what he was running
around like, and it always looking at me like, Jad,
this your person? She done ran off with Mariah and
I'm like, what the Like that was a crazy moment.
This is my first time being there. This is my
first time at her house and I bring something over.

(01:13:11):
This was just like the story, you bring something over
to the house and.

Speaker 7 (01:13:14):
This is what happened.

Speaker 6 (01:13:15):
And I'm in the house like this, like I'm just
trying to make a record. Mand what the is going
on where you're at?

Speaker 7 (01:13:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:13:20):
I called her. She's like, we just getting some prize
and I'm like what, why why?

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
And she was saying that Mariah, just like at that
period of time, Mariah was, you know, this was a
different type of successful.

Speaker 8 (01:13:32):
Life at this point celebrity.

Speaker 6 (01:13:34):
She wasn't the artist that could go outside and go
to McDonald's or she wasn't even doing that. Like, she
was sheltered in the house and she just wanted to
get out. And Brat was her her person that was
ready to go escape and do it.

Speaker 11 (01:13:46):
So was it that level of freedom you provided her?
That's what I'm called the emancipatient.

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:13:51):
Nah, Just I just think I think I make Mariah comfortable,
right and I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:13:56):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:13:57):
I don't fake with her about the music that we
should make. And I think that's what makes her feel free,
you know, free, because I'm telling her, I'm telling anybody
if you sing, make singing records man like and like,
I get it. You want to rap, and I'm a
rapper at heart, but I learned how to make music,

(01:14:17):
and I learned through the success that I've had that
these people want these records to sound like the records
that they know. The audience don't change, right, So I
just have to keep beating that in people's minds and
letting them know, like, listen, you might want to change
your stuff, but the person that's listening, they want the
new Mariah record to sound like the Mariah record that

(01:14:37):
they heard before.

Speaker 8 (01:14:38):
And that's always a hard fight with artists.

Speaker 9 (01:14:41):
Did you ever take the medicin?

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:14:42):
No, no, no, No, she won't. She won't. She probably
won't go to that saying that ain't her that a
that ain't her bag.

Speaker 13 (01:14:48):
Now back to Usher, you said she didn't like make
make me want to? Yeah, why not?

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
What's the problem with that?

Speaker 8 (01:14:53):
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
And how did you get them? How'd you force them
to finally do it?

Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
Well, I mean I have to force him, but he
also just let me know it wouldn't. That wasn't where
he felt he should be coming with.

Speaker 8 (01:15:03):
At this point in.

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
Time, Usher was still not sure where his career was
gonna go. So he's still cut the song, luckily, but
if we was in that space right now, he's not
gonna cut the song right now.

Speaker 8 (01:15:14):
He ain'tna be like, I don't know that song.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Right now, he don't care if he don't like it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:18):
It's not even gonna get cut even right now.

Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
I would trust you to not he's gonna be like
that's right now. I'd be like, yo, usher, please cut
this song.

Speaker 8 (01:15:28):
Us should turn his phone off.

Speaker 11 (01:15:29):
Like when your name is mentioned fifty years from now,
what's the one record or one artist you want to
define your leg.

Speaker 8 (01:15:37):
I don't know who the artist is. Somebody great.

Speaker 6 (01:15:39):
I mean I think, you know, I think like watching
Mariah get Van Gold Award and her performing in that
piece to of records that I did, I think that
means that means a lot, you know what I mean?
Like almost like you saying, it's like my records are
loud enough to make people, damn that believe that I
had something to do with her success. To me, that's

(01:16:00):
a mean accomplishment, because I didn't have anything to do
with her becoming who she is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
No, that's not true.

Speaker 9 (01:16:07):
That's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
I mean it's a second wave.

Speaker 8 (01:16:09):
Yeah, but I'm saying I think I think I might
have made more black people like her.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Yes, but she's.

Speaker 8 (01:16:15):
Still rod cared.

Speaker 9 (01:16:16):
Yeah, but it says something You Me, I mean, I
mean it's the best album.

Speaker 8 (01:16:20):
I get it.

Speaker 9 (01:16:21):
You Meet Me is brock Carey's best album.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Absolutely, That's probably the.

Speaker 9 (01:16:24):
Definitive album of her whole career.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
That's her thriller, it is.

Speaker 8 (01:16:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
What's the hardest personal sacrifice you made for your career? Life.

Speaker 8 (01:16:34):
I don't really have no life. I just be making music,
you know what I mean? And I have.

Speaker 6 (01:16:38):
People that tell me this all the time, like Jad,
you know you don't really you my baby, and mother's
be saying it's like, you know you your life is
the music. All you do is care about the music.
All you care about is putting out records. All you
care about it is doing what you're doing every day.
And that's the truth.

Speaker 7 (01:16:53):
It is.

Speaker 8 (01:16:54):
That's what it is. I don't care about nothing else.

Speaker 9 (01:16:55):
You enjoy the money on vacation.

Speaker 6 (01:16:57):
I mean that come along with it, but it ain't.
That's not That's not a chase for me, Like my
chase is to be you know, like what they said
on the Billboard, I get number one, I feel like
I feel like I finally did something by getting number
one on that list.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
But that's never enough because you want more, not But now.

Speaker 6 (01:17:13):
It's like it's but it's also like fighting. It's like boxing.
You gotta you gotta.

Speaker 8 (01:17:18):
Can you can you stay in that space? Right? You
know what I'm saying. It's like watching Floyd and Tyson
tug why they gonna fight.

Speaker 6 (01:17:26):
It's like Floyd retired, but he still want to be
the He want to be the best. You know what
I'm saying. It's like I'm not saying I'm retired. I'm
out here. So I just know that, you know, Like
I also know that it's space in hip hop and
R and B that hasn't been touched. What I'm doing,
going from ninety two and being becoming the number one

(01:17:48):
producer the twenty first century in twenty twenty five ain't
been seen ever ever, Right, So if you start doing
they ain't never been seen. You don't have no reason.
I don't have no reason to stop. I just gotta,
you know, pray to God that don't stop.

Speaker 8 (01:18:02):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:18:03):
It's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
I wonder if hip hop had limits. J you Maine do
for you?

Speaker 11 (01:18:06):
And what I mean by that is when people start
talking about, yo, who's the greatest producers of all time,
They'll start, you know, naming a bunch of people who
do a lot of hip hop records. Right, But you
gotta just say Jamaine is a musician. If you if
you said Jamaine is is just a musical producer, then
I think the conversation is a little bit different.

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I mean it's hard, man,
because I feel like I switched from people. I switch
up on people so much. When I'm in R and
B mode, I'm not talking about no rap, right. I
remember one time I came up here and I was
so R and BT out, and I want, I'm waving
the flag for R and B and I ain't talking
about nothing rap. I think that confuses the podcast. The

(01:18:47):
guys that usually talk to me about they like, wait
a minute, I thought this was money anything.

Speaker 8 (01:18:53):
You you know what I mean? Magic City want to
make division records? You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
I think that that that throws the whole thing off
because I do switch.

Speaker 8 (01:19:03):
I mean, that's how that's the only way I can
do it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
That's the only way I can make it is to
get away from, you know, from one thing for a
minute and go into that space and be one hundred
percent in that space.

Speaker 11 (01:19:12):
Is there a media bias even towards the South, But
I think about that with the producers and the artists.
So there's some artists from the South who should be
getting mentioned this top lyricists all the time, and some
producers from the South should be getting mentioned this top
of users.

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
I just think that, and I want to I want
to get I want to shit thank a shout out
because I feel like it's interview with.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Thug Fantastic pushes brilliant.

Speaker 6 (01:19:34):
Finally somebody in Atlanta to the forefront of hip hop
media in the city of Atlanta. And I think it's
taken thirty years for somebody in the city of Atlanta
to be the person that you have to sit down
and talk to if you that guy in hip hop
and he just made himself that person if you asked.

Speaker 9 (01:19:56):
I'm glad I'm saying that. I said it on the air.

Speaker 11 (01:19:58):
Regional identity matters in media and everything, and Atlanta has
been the hip hop capital for so long, but have
never had that meetings, Luther Grade streeting on.

Speaker 9 (01:20:08):
But they've never had that person.

Speaker 6 (01:20:11):
And I think that's the problem, is like every time
somebody from Atlanta that's popped, they always had to come
to New York and no disrespect, but I've been saying
it should have been somebody that did what he did
with Future Ludacris when Ti I got out of jail.
We KNOWE had so many artists that had so many stories,
but they missed the opportunity like what just happened with

(01:20:32):
Doug because we don't have that person in the city,
and that just that goes to the culture like people
should Like I just saw the magazine out there with
you on the front, covered variety.

Speaker 8 (01:20:40):
I've never seen that before right in Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
I don't think young people read and see things like
that to push them.

Speaker 8 (01:20:48):
To say, you know what, I want to do. What
Charlemagne doing?

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Man?

Speaker 8 (01:20:51):
I want to do what Envy doing?

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
He got cast show, Like they don't see that enough
to distract them. All they see is JD throwing money
and this money, I'm I'm gonna be a rapper. Nah,
you ain't gotta be no rapper, you know what I mean?
Bank getting ready to hit the Bank. Absolutely, you know
what I'm saying based on way he just did that
one interview. As far as I'm concerned, if he do

(01:21:12):
what he gotta do and he keep it at that
level and the way he talked to him, it makes
you gonna have people that really want to sit down
and like, let you interview him the same way you did.

Speaker 9 (01:21:22):
And Big Facts has already been that platform to me.

Speaker 11 (01:21:24):
Yeah, right, And then now to see Bank doing the
perspective with banks, yeah, I agree with.

Speaker 8 (01:21:29):
But it took thirty years, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:21:31):
Took thirty years for somebody.

Speaker 8 (01:21:33):
To say, this is what we need. I'm gonna do
it like this, right, And I'm really happy to see that.

Speaker 6 (01:21:39):
I feel like that's gonna turn That's gonna change the
city because that's gonna people. Somebody gonna see that and
they gonna create another one, right, and at that point
that world will open up. Because when I came here,
I think the beginning of me talking about Magic City,
I was like, Yo, everybody in New York got a podcast.
I mean everywhere I went, everybody got podcasts cluing them,

(01:22:01):
got one across the street in a little bar, Jo,
everybody fat Joe I was going to all of them.
I mean, Carmelo nom out in Brooklyn. It's a podcast everywhere.
I was just like this, this bug ain't hit Atlanta yet.

Speaker 11 (01:22:14):
Now they got them in Atlanta because you got big facts.
You got bank, got eighty five South shows in Atlanta.
You got four mind podcasts based out of Atlanta.

Speaker 8 (01:22:22):
Four y'all have about twenty out there. You know what
I mean. You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
It's just and they moving. Y'all got y'all got twenty
out here, that's moving. I'm just saying, these guys that
you like the eighty five South Show, I think that's
probably the closest next. But after that, it ain't no
real life. Ain't nobody you gotta talk to.

Speaker 9 (01:22:40):
Poor Mind is big you down.

Speaker 8 (01:22:42):
You ain't got to talk to them. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:22:45):
I'm just talking about as far as like if you
want of these people, I feel like we don't have
We ain't had nobody that you have to talk to.
Like if they was like call me Carla Wreck coming,
they like jo Jamaine, who you wanna have an in
depth conversation with your name? Your name is gonna come up?
And then who's the competitor to Charlemagne in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
From Atlanta to you know, from.

Speaker 8 (01:23:09):
So I just feel like I.

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
Feel like Bank put himself in the category to get
you know, the Gucci mans, all of these people that
we want to.

Speaker 11 (01:23:16):
Hear right now, Gunna should be calling Bank like I
need to come sit down with you, and and just
three not the reply.

Speaker 8 (01:23:24):
But you know, I mean, but it ain't.

Speaker 5 (01:23:26):
Even never heard this side.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
It's just like I said, he just made it where
like Oprah Winfrey, like you want to watch it, you
want to hear it. And he's not gonna hold back
on the questions. And he's creditable in that category to
where you can't run no bullsh on him.

Speaker 8 (01:23:44):
Is he gonna let you know you running some bu
But I.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Love he was. He wasn't afraid to push back.

Speaker 8 (01:23:48):
Nah. But I mean, but he don't have no that's him,
you know what I'm saying. He wanted.

Speaker 6 (01:23:52):
He the guy that told me when I said, he's like, Jad,
we thought you you want you want to be from
New York. That's who told me that, right, And I'm like, nah,
I'm trying to be from New York. I'm trying to
just push my music and I just feel like, like
I said, I plagued him on that interview, he did
it well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
J I know you gotta run well. JD.

Speaker 13 (01:24:08):
Jamain Dupre makes you check out the Magic City doc
and of course the album.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
We appreciate you always for joining us out.

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
It's the Breakfast Club. It's JD one to everybody.

Speaker 13 (01:24:16):
It's the j Envy, Jess, Hilariys, Charlamagne the Guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. You got a positive note.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
I do have a positive note.

Speaker 7 (01:24:23):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
I want to talk to you about resilience this morning. Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:24:26):
Resilience is very different than being numb. Okay, Resilience means
you experience, you feel, you fail, you hurt, you fall,
but you keep going.

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That's resilience. Have a great day, Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
You don't finish for y'all? Done up?

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
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