Best of full interview: New Edition & Boyz II Men Talk Brotherhood, R&B Evolution, Industry Rumors, Group Tour + More

Best of 2025- Best of the 90’s - New Edition & Boyz II Men Talk Brotherhood, R&B Evolution, Industry Rumors, Group Tour . Recorded 2025. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every day away up the Breakfast Club Morning everybody. It's
the j n V.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Jess Hilarious, Charlamage, the guy we are the Breakfast Club
Law and Roses here as well, and we got some
icons ends today, ladies and gentlemen, we have new addition
and boys to men.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
They're going on tour together. I feel like this should
have been happy, right. Why did it take so long?
Who wants to start?

Speaker 4 (00:40):
I think that there's a lot of logistics that go
with having two groups, two groups with such great success.
In order to get that together, scheduling has to be right. Also,
the you know what I mean, the energy has to
be right, the climate has to be right. And I
just believe that this is the time. God put this
time as the time to show the world what this,

(01:03):
this whole vibe is all about. New addition, boys to men,
Tony Box and it's a real thing. And this is
the moment God placed it right here, not his.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Boys to Benfield.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I got to ask, because you guys, they were your idols,
right and still you seeing them, you know, when y'all
had to show in Philly, y'all coming to the bus
and y'all singing and.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, you know, that's not actually how it went, you
know what I'm saying. No, no, no, I don't mean to.
I don't mean to, but you know, but you know,
like in order in order for the story to to
to actually be uh told in the movie, sometimes you
have to, you know, make it all go together in sequence,
you know, for people can see this. So there's truth

(01:44):
to that. But it was Michael Bibbins, Ricky and and Ron.
They were actually coming off stage at the Powerhouse and
they were in Philly and they were introducing that you
guys were going to be BBD and we had just
by the time they came off stage, we had just
snuck backstage. We passed past us back and before we got backstage,

(02:06):
and as soon as we got there, they were coming
off stage, and I guess, uh.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Nate asked Ricky can we sing for him? You know
what I'm saying? And Ricky was like, yeah, got it tape.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
He said yeah, yeah, got it tape. And we was like, no,
we ain't got no tape. And he was like, well,
y'all need a tape, you know what I'm saying. He
started writing down the address, but then Nate was like, yo,
let me go to BEIV. So he's like, BIV, can
you know, can you know, you know, can we sing
for you? And he was like, can y'all do it
right now? Boom we busted into can you standing right?

Speaker 7 (02:40):
In?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
A capella? So it was backstage.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
It wasn't at a tour bus, but you know what
I mean the story nonetheless, it definitely resonated.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
The tour bus was more exciting.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right right, there was a
lot more sexy.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I do want to ask you every every artist, manager, artists,
executive relationship has its highs and lows. When you look back,
what was some of the biggest misunderstandings or lessons y'all
learned from you know, each other.

Speaker 8 (03:10):
I guess you could say, like when any relationship, I
mean in a group, because even when BIBB signed his
years ago, it was almost like him being a fifth
member at the time, and I think it was more
like a dynamic type thing. You know, we learned a
lot about each other's personalities as well as just understanding,
you know, how the business went. So you know, you
had your share of highs and lows and ups and downs,

(03:31):
but at the end of the day, it's all about that.
It's better is the end of.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
A thing than the beginning and the other thing.

Speaker 8 (03:36):
Absolutely, So it's one of those things where it's like,
here we are, look at this.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (03:40):
A lot of people didn't think that this, you know,
situation would even happen. But as you mentioned, yeah, poison
men owe a lot to new addition.

Speaker 9 (03:49):
But this is what succession looks like. You understand what
I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (03:52):
So so it's one of those things where it's like
these guys did what they did, and they gave us
the ball and we ran with it so that now.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
We can rule all together now with it together.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Now, how often do y'all rehearse?

Speaker 10 (04:03):
Right?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Because it's a lot of different characters, with a lot
of different families, with a lot of different moving pieces.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
But people love the old dances.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
They love to see in sick, They love to see
somebody going left, somebody going right, the outfit.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
So how is rehearsal for y'all?

Speaker 8 (04:17):
That's gonna That's that's the beautiful thing about new addition
in itself, Like they carried the torch of what R
and B groups should look like. They are the standard
and when it comes to this tour that we're gonna
show that, like it's all gonna be implemented in the
in the whole production along with Tony. So it's like
rehearsals we haven't started yet because this is our this

(04:39):
is our first promo run. So but once we do,
we're gonna lock in and it's gonna be dope.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
It's gonna be the smartest.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
So he came in with the crutches because he knew
what was gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
With This is just prep This is prepp right here.

Speaker 10 (04:55):
Game.

Speaker 11 (04:55):
You know what I'm saying that that might be an excuse.
That's not right, there's an excuse right now. I get
through tsa quicker than y'all.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Y'all, how long is the show because you'll all have
so many men individually, yes, as long as the show.

Speaker 11 (05:12):
As individuals, you know, we probably give them, you know,
ninety minutes, maybe even two hours. But when you put
all of this excellence together, you know, in one night
on one stage, that's got to be you know, prince like,
you know, it's almost three hours. It's got to be Springsteen,
you know, three hours and some change. And I'm excited

(05:33):
about it because how do you put that in ninety minutes?
You can't, can't you know, when you got success in
the legacy that we all have and all the joints
and even the individuals that are you know, within this
conglomerate right here, I'm.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Just excited about it.

Speaker 11 (05:49):
You know, we didn't start rehearsal, but mister Brooke Payne
gave us a date for probably December first, And like
Sean said, when we lock in, it's going to be crazy.

Speaker 12 (06:01):
Who chooses the track list? Like who the autists all
sit together?

Speaker 10 (06:04):
Yeah, we're gonna put it all together.

Speaker 8 (06:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, We're all gonna sit down and
we're gonna figure out how this whole thing works. Because
the truth is, again we are connected, we are from
different cities, but the story is the same. So it's
gonna be deeper than just doing songs. This is telling
his story. Yeah, this is more so, and unlike any
show that you've ever seen, this isn't just about you know,
lights and cameras and all this other stuff.

Speaker 9 (06:27):
We are literally bretering, like from beginning to end.

Speaker 8 (06:31):
So we have to tell that story and amalgamate that
story to make people understand why this is important.

Speaker 9 (06:38):
This is deeper than just a genre.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
This is deeper than just all it's just a bunch
of black folks on stage, Like, this is history between
us New Edition and Tony Braxon. It's one hundred and
fifty million records. Got so, So the thing is is
that that that has to be celebrated and this is deeper. This,
This is why we urge everybody to come because this
is history. This is something you will never see anywhere

(07:01):
else in in decades.

Speaker 9 (07:04):
So it's bigger than us.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Can we expound on the brotherhood you know between all
of y'all, man, you know, I love seeing all of
y'all together after all these years. What have y'all learned
about forgiveness and just staying together as brothers?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
We audition and boys, Well, I could say, go ahead, gohead,
you said.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
I've said before in talking about the fact that when
you're talking about true brotherhood, it's a real true brotherhood
and we're like real siblings. And I've said that that's
why you see we go through our ups and downs,
our battles. We then had some ups and downs and
all of the above, but at this stage of our lives,
when we come together, man, it's like it's just nothing

(07:42):
but laughter. It's like, at this point of our lives,
we didn't been through a lot, and I'm sure there's
more to deal with as far as challenges go, but
we've come full circles just as grown men, just as
as human beings, and and we have fun when we
come together.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
I was gonna say, y'all need to talk with y'all
just like, look.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
This this is the deal again. We this is the
first time that we've even come together in this circumstance,
you know what I mean. Other times it's been you know,
we've been on shows with with BBD, We've done a
few shows with Johnny and Bobby and you know, and
we I think we did one gig that we all
were together. But I feel like in order for the
energy to actually get to the place where it's supposed

(08:23):
to be something like that, a break bread moment has
to happened. You know, some things, you know, some things
that we might have on our hearts may need to
come out, you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's
that's what brotherhood is about, you know. And and I'm
a big fan of atonement guys. You know what I'm
saying I'm a big fan.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Of of of of.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Letting it go, especially at the age that we're all at.
You know, I'm trying. I'm trying to. Yeah, man, I'm trying.
I'm trying to. I'm in I'm in coach mode. You
know what I'm saying. I'm really trying to be in
coach mode.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
This is the time.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Let's go out, let's make some money, and let's entertain
these people and be on That's.

Speaker 13 (09:01):
All conversation, like that initial conversation.

Speaker 10 (09:05):
But we did.

Speaker 8 (09:06):
What he was saying was it's it's one of those
things where because we're on the road and because we
have the time, it's going to be one of those
organic things. We don't want to make this a melo
drama and it ain't no negativity, ain't no mess like
like you know what I'm saying, None of that ship
excuse me, none of that stuff like it. It's really
just about understanding how important this meant or this was,

(09:30):
and not only to the fans but to us. So
this is what we're doing. We're celebrating, we're going to
have a good time. We're gonna go on the road
and we're gonna sing and dance our asses off.

Speaker 9 (09:38):
Absolutely, We're gonna give people the greatest show they've ever
seen in their life.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
You have fun doing this, have fun doing it.

Speaker 14 (09:44):
That's right, Michael.

Speaker 12 (09:46):
Anybody ever tell you that you look like Yo Gotti.

Speaker 15 (09:53):
We took the peture together at what was that the
BET Awards, so there's a picture.

Speaker 14 (09:58):
Of him and not standing side by side. It was
just cool to meet him too.

Speaker 15 (10:01):
I think he was right at the beginning of him
coming through the door.

Speaker 14 (10:05):
He was hustling. He was standing.

Speaker 15 (10:06):
Outside on the red cop it with not no bodyguards
and all that.

Speaker 14 (10:10):
He looked like he was.

Speaker 15 (10:11):
He had his crewel there, but he was a little
more loose and it was It was good. We just
looked at each other like okay, and we just smiled.

Speaker 16 (10:20):
It was like, oh, so y'all looked like y'all could
be brothers.

Speaker 15 (10:25):
Everybody said, I think, what's one of the kids looked
at the TV. It was like that, and it couldn't.

Speaker 13 (10:30):
Figure it out.

Speaker 15 (10:32):
You know, one of my kids, like he looked like that.
I don't know if it was Shilah Starler was one
of them. They was a little you know, it was little.

Speaker 14 (10:41):
Yeah. So it was all good and shout out to
him man, hell of a CEO.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Now, what do you think there's missing in the R
and B game right now? Why don't you think there's
more R and B groups?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
They're missing us?

Speaker 14 (10:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, no, you know, I just.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Think the times is changed. And that's the thing that
we understand about time. Uh, and the world is constantly
going and we've seen nothing stays the same. And the
part of the thing is that we have to learn
and have the attitude and take that mindset that you know,
you have to learn how to work, continue to do
what we do in that compromise that we are, but
also understand where the world is and figure out how
we can fit in it, because well, ain't stopping.

Speaker 10 (11:15):
For us that thinks. We live in a YouTube society
and everybody's selfish. Nobody wants to share with their friends
or their brothers and their cousins. Nobody wants to make
a group. Everybody wants their own shit, absolutely with.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Their own money.

Speaker 14 (11:27):
Well go ahead, No I'm not going before you. I'll
go means might got an R and B group and
to cut some are I was just going to make a point.

Speaker 15 (11:35):
But if you want to jump in, jump, I was
gonna say, bro Honestly, I think it started at the Recordly,
I think people that are hired now some of them
don't have an eye for talent.

Speaker 14 (11:47):
They have an eye for their computer.

Speaker 15 (11:49):
Sometimes you have to go in the street, like we
met in the street. You know, they're singing to be closed,
and I think they look at it as the hits
of the computer makes them a hit group.

Speaker 14 (12:03):
But it's so much more to it.

Speaker 15 (12:04):
And back in the day, like for myself as the CEO,
I stayed the two in the morning and kept looking
at the pictures, listening to the music, the an R
and the people at the office. Now they're on the
red carpet before the artists get there. So the responsibility
and the care the detail is missing. And if someone
would just slow down and say, yo, how many times

(12:27):
we gotta look at the Grammys and not one R
and B group is on the shove right right? And
the first time we see in an R and B
group in the last five years, well, you know, we
saw what Bruno on them did, but that was a
different thing. I'm talking about someone from the hood, like
a yoga signal audition Boys to Men. Jagged Edge is
when Wan Suns was on there, and Jesse gave them

(12:48):
the shot. That's the first time we seen black kids
on the Grammys ever in a long time. And that's
where it starts. It starts younger and Scott's shot at
the office or it's gonna have to come from us.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I don't think people are looking for talent no more.
I think they're looking for people that are just doing.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Absolutely absolutely you don't even have to have a record deal.
You get the numbers and then you get a record deal,
you know what I'm saying, And really just understand that
there is a blueprint, you understand, a blueprint that we
followed to get to where we are.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
There's the groups of old of our time that actually
helped shape the.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Entertainment value of all of us. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
So all these artists have to do is keep looking
at the blueprints, because the blueprints still exists.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
That longevity just means.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
That you did something very very right. You understand and
understanding behind it is. They're not looking for longevity, They're
looking for the quick fix. Social media is the fastest
way to become famous, but also the quickest way to
lose everything.

Speaker 8 (13:50):
You know what I say, like everybody's obsessed with going
viral and not understanding a component to the word viral
is virus exactly? Like why would you want to be
a viral? Like there's two things that happens the viruses.
One they get killed or it kills everything, Like why
would you want to why would you want to base
your career off of going viral? Like there's there's no

(14:12):
future in that, and that's what the industry is.

Speaker 15 (14:16):
Sean, Honestly, I would have went second on that question,
but I think we should ask Ralph what do he
think is missing?

Speaker 14 (14:25):
Because let me, let me, let me finish.

Speaker 15 (14:30):
I'm gonna tell you why the responsibility of being up
front is even something that's in you, you're born with.
And I feel like that question you gotta ask yourself.
When he sits and watch a group of YouTube he's
looking to see who reminds him of himself. He's got
that route treasurment. So Rizzo take the mic and tell
us what do you think there?

Speaker 14 (14:50):
It is?

Speaker 4 (14:51):
What was the question, what's missing in R and B?
What's missing about the group's R and B likes?

Speaker 17 (14:58):
There's a lot missing that game.

Speaker 18 (15:00):
It's all changed, it's not even the same place that
we were in when we started. So everything has changed,
and man, can you hear me? Yeah, I'm sorry, it
seems like everything has changed. Man, nothing's how it used
to be, you know, when we're out here trying to
think about something in particular that can bring it back
like it used to be. And I don't know, I

(15:20):
don't have no answers with all that. I just feel
like it's evolved.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
But it's interesting even you know, for Bible to say
Ralph was the lead because you were the lead technically,
but then Bobby went off and was a great leading man,
and Johnny was a great leading man, and BBD had.

Speaker 13 (15:35):
Success like all of y'all could have been a leading you.

Speaker 18 (15:39):
Now he's talking about how it started all off A
candy girl Michael Jackson analogy. Can'dy new audition? Candy girl
Jackson's that vibe is what Mike's speaking on. And during
that time period.

Speaker 17 (15:50):
It wasn't a whole lot of examples for us.

Speaker 18 (15:55):
We just had what was in front of us or
behind us, and trying to take what we had learned
and make something.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
New out of that. Exactly.

Speaker 17 (16:02):
It's not adding what was going on in the current times.

Speaker 10 (16:06):
You know what there.

Speaker 19 (16:09):
And I just think that back when we first started,
what motivated us, what influenced us, the artists, you know,
the Temptations, Blue Magic, the Jackson's his death, that's not
the motivation today. Before we even like knew anything about
how to even get a record deal, because that was
actually the furthest.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Thing from my mind.

Speaker 19 (16:27):
There was no way that you do that to approach that.
So our main motivation was to how do we put
on a good show. And we've rehearsed probably for a
couple of years before we even stepped on the stage,
and we were more excited about making the crowd scream,
you know, than actually making a new record. And so
now today, like Sean said, it's the motivation is how

(16:48):
do I become famous? Not really about how do I
put on a good show.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
But it has to feel good.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Like I said, viv videos of my daughter seven years
old singing new audition records, which is crazy because it's
the music is a feeling, and I feel like sometimes
you don't get that with these artists, Like music doesn't
last at the time that it does.

Speaker 18 (17:08):
Well, you don't think that's a big piece of what's missing.
When I think of it, it's love. Like when we
came up, it was.

Speaker 17 (17:12):
A lot of love and right.

Speaker 18 (17:15):
And it seems like love is not a part of
the major the topics now it's not. It's not about
it's not even in the music. It's not in the
approach towards when you the passion that we had. We
had love for this. We wanted to do what we
saw the Jackson's doing. We really wanted to make it happen.

Speaker 13 (17:30):
You wanted to be great.

Speaker 8 (17:31):
The industry, the industry doesn't groom legends anymore. They don't
groom longevity anymore because it doesn't benefit them.

Speaker 9 (17:38):
Like think about it when you when.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
You have a company and you know that you can
go viral with a kid for fifteen minutes, get your
ad revenue, and then kick them to the side.

Speaker 17 (17:48):
Right, and then move on to the next thing.

Speaker 9 (17:51):
That's a good money maker to anybody. I was there,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
And the artist suffer, yeah.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
But but the bottom line is is that the artist suffer,
but the artists still have the hand. And what I
mean by that is a lot of the things that
we don't like about you know, because I'm be on
group chats with a lot of producers and managers and
stuff like that, and they complain about the same thing,
and my thing.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Is change it, that's all.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
Just change it, stop doing stop chasing the carrot like,
because everybody wants to try to fit in the system,
knowing damn well, it doesn't benefit them. So the music
industry isn't an industry without the music. So change it.
Change the paradigm, change how music is consumed.

Speaker 9 (18:30):
Change you know, who has the power to create that
next thing and then.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
Hold it so these industry people don't try to put
their grubby hands on trying to make it like a
you know, a viral thing or you know or whatever.
It's partially our fault because we fell into the whole system,
and all we gotta do is change it.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
Period.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Now with Bobby with so many hits, how many hits
are you going to do on stage?

Speaker 14 (18:55):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Man to the mic? And then because that's the time
where everybody could take a break.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
You have so many records single, how are you give
us a break?

Speaker 13 (19:08):
Me and break?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
It's up it's up to Brook and it's up to
you know, the guys. How much they want me on
the stage.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
I don't plan to do no more than the next man.
I know that.

Speaker 16 (19:35):
Okay, So for boys and men, how long did it
take y'all to complete a whole song in the studio?
Because you when I say when the song's be going off,
you'd be like, no, no, no. I got some more.

Speaker 17 (19:52):
Specific with it.

Speaker 12 (19:53):
The Christmas album that.

Speaker 16 (19:54):
I bumped all year round, Christmas Dierversations.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Wow, thank you, my favorite Creciate play all year round.

Speaker 12 (20:02):
How only did it take you all to complete a
single song?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, I'll tell you this. It took us two weeks
to do the Christmas album.

Speaker 9 (20:08):
What that's all?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
We had two weeks that's all we had.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
And we recorded it in Europe, London, in London, yes,
with Brian McKnight.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
We sat there because we were on tour.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
We were on tour in London, right, we had, Yeah,
we had to meet the deadline and we sat in there.
Of course we wrote songs on the road, you know,
like Sean would call me to his room. He had
joyous song. I came up with why Christmas. And Nate
had a cold December Nights. Mike did no No, Michael's
Cold December Nights and they had what was the record

(20:40):
of Share Love, Share Love. So yeah, so the idea,
like literally to to do a new standard Christmas album
was It was grueling because we didn't have much time,
but we wrote the hell out of that. Like every
aspect of it was straight from the you know, the soul,
you know what I mean. It was real, real moments.

(21:00):
So we did and we didn't want to make it
all like you know, jingle bells, you know what I mean.
We wanted to make it. We wanted to make it
so that so that so that we could feel it,
you know what I'm saying, so that you could actually
play that John straight.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
So yeah, you know, once you you know, once the
standards come and play, you know, of course you can
make choices, but when you have new Christmas records that
people fall in love with, that's the only choice.

Speaker 10 (21:25):
That's why we decided not to make another one.

Speaker 16 (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, I want you please, but if y'all don't
need to, because that that's one of my favorite albums.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Thank you appreciate that.

Speaker 12 (21:37):
Why did you kill Give Love on Christmas Daily? Because
that's my favorite Christmas song?

Speaker 16 (21:40):
Like y'all was singing these Christmas songs like women were
leaving y'alls.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Because they were.

Speaker 10 (21:51):
That's all I had to give. I didn't have money
back then.

Speaker 14 (21:55):
All I have with loved offer.

Speaker 20 (21:59):
What is it like for y'all when y'all are on
stages and doing the different things that y'all are doing,
and you run into people like Jess who are still
filling the music's impactfully, but also different generations and things
are being recreated TikTok and all these different places.

Speaker 8 (22:11):
It's the biggest compliment ever. Yeah, the fact that these
songs out are older than some of our kids and
people are still enjoying them, and it just it is
proof positive of I guess the work that we put
in and the type of music that will last way
after we're gone again. What Ralph was saying is we

(22:32):
do this for the love. We did it for the love,
and we continue to do this for the love. I mean,
it's nice that we get paid well for it, but ultimately,
what you're going to see and what people are going
to witness on stage is love. Why we do what
we do. And I wanted to touch too about how
the fact that the industry is made not reaching back

(22:53):
to history uncool. It's like when I see a lot
of young kids like talking, they talk a lot.

Speaker 9 (22:59):
That's that old shit it, yeah, but that's that good ship.

Speaker 13 (23:02):
You know.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
The the reason why songs last as long as they
do is because it just like Ricky even mentioned, like
they're idols, were the Jacksons and Blue Magic and the stylistics,
like you got to reach back to history to understand
how to move forward in the future. And the bottom
line is that a lot of these kids don't understand
what was, which is why the sound of it And

(23:26):
let's be honest, because y'all radio folks, y'all know the
sound quality is different.

Speaker 9 (23:30):
Y'all know it don't hit here. It's just a bunch
of sonics.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
It's just a bunch of drums and sound effects.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
But it don't change a lot.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Right when I do R and B parties, right, y'all,
records ring like newer records even more to the point
where it's like I'm watching people do the dance and
this is festival. So it's like with different groups. I
would say with y'all, definitely Mary J. Blige, it hits

(24:00):
different because those songs keep going and these are younger kids.
He could be twenty one year olds, These could be
nineteen year olds in college when we do these parties.
But it's still hits that make me happy.

Speaker 9 (24:08):
What was the kids say about low frequency?

Speaker 8 (24:12):
Like a lot of the songs, unfortunately not all of them,
but a lot of the songs have very low frequency.
It's the reason why these songs that we've done for
the past what forty years fellas like in some MUDs,
you know, but that they still ring true because again
it still has that thick analog feel to it.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 16 (24:30):
Something right now in twenty twelve, my baby father played
me mister telephone man.

Speaker 12 (24:36):
That's how I got a baby right.

Speaker 21 (24:37):
Now, mister telephone Damn if it was that easy.

Speaker 20 (25:00):
So you talked about you talked about the not being
cool to throw back to like you know, legends and
iconic moments and music. How much of the business has
made it where that's why the kids are doing that
and has it made it hard for you guys trying
to do business because of that feeling?

Speaker 8 (25:14):
Well, first off, let me say just to answer the
last part, our business is doing well. And this this
is the crazy part too, that a lot of people
don't get because we're not always on the front pages
of certain websites and things that nature, that they don't
think that we're doing well. As you look around, you
see everybody's skin glowing.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Come on.

Speaker 20 (25:41):
That note channel.

Speaker 13 (25:44):
We're good.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
To book them and see their numbers.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
And that's the thing is like the industry has got
everybody so gassed to think that, Yo, if you're not
on this this particular platform, then you're not doing well.
And again this is this is proof positive. Like we're
about to do Arenas thirty dates.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I love it, We're fine. Let me.

Speaker 15 (26:10):
Again, let me say this like honestly, Envy, it means
a lot to us when you're in New Orleans and
you make that call twenty minutes before we hit the stage,
sorry and say, BEV leave me some tickets. He's always
in the front, singing and stepping with us, and that
means a lot. And I thought that was part of
what you asked. What do we feel when we see y'all?

(26:30):
It feels good, bro, because you're not being you know,
the radio guy that got you it being someone that
enjoys the music. And that's probably why your tickets is
always there.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
But this group is one that I see every time
y'all in town, every time I'm in the town, because
it gives me that feeling.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
I can see you once, I can see you twice.
I know the dances.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
If somebody gets hurt, I can jump in for y'all.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I don't think.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
My question is is there a song that you guys
hate to do that?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Like, I just don't want to do that song y'all
looking at you, I know what was one?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
And Still of the Night?

Speaker 13 (27:16):
I hate that song.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
I'll tell you why you hate it. So so so
we're in Salt Lake City and and uh, the record label.
I'm sure BIF has something to do with this. Ship
the record label and was like, yo, we need a
record for the Jackson's Mini series, and we wanted to

(27:39):
be in Instill in the Night.

Speaker 14 (27:40):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
We could think of so many.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Other records that we would have been excited to do,
you know what I mean, But they wanted in the
Still of the Night.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
So okay, it's a very easy record, guys, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Of course, with our harmony structures, we kind of we
kind of do it a little bit different because it's
not the regular triad. But the issue is is nobody
wanted to sing the lead.

Speaker 9 (28:01):
It was a day off weekend and we wanted to
go snowmobill.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Exactly right, exactly, so nobody wanted to sing the lead.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
So anything right right?

Speaker 17 (28:10):
Right?

Speaker 4 (28:12):
No, no, no, hell no, we don't want to sing
the league because it's in the other night, right.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
So we flipped the coin.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
That's how we did every That's how we That's how
we cleared every alter case, every situation.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
We would just want to slip the coin.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
One and we left, We left the studio. We left
his ass right there.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
We left him and we did our parts and flipped
the coin. And who was going to sing lead?

Speaker 10 (28:40):
Nate one, We.

Speaker 13 (28:43):
Love you.

Speaker 10 (28:46):
I don't even remember, bro. I was so pissed off
looking out the window, snow cap mountains and ship hilarious.

Speaker 9 (28:56):
Pumi addition has to yeah, I want to know that.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, what's all y'all hate to do?

Speaker 6 (29:03):
I love doing if it is in love, but I
don't like doing it.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
I don't because it's like by the times like this,
you're like, I'm telling what you don't like doing.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
I don't like to do the dance. It's a real
difficult I dig.

Speaker 11 (29:22):
For me, it would probably be You're not my kind
of girl? What Yeah, lyrics, It leans in on the
dance side. This one move that we do what you
know later on my ass hurts everything.

Speaker 20 (29:41):
Dance moves in like things you're not going to touch
this time around.

Speaker 11 (29:44):
On way, we are definitely gonna I think we do
want to give people a different experience. Like m b said,
some of the classics stuff that people have come to
know us for if it isn't love, maybe even you're

(30:04):
not my kind of girl. Some of those things we're
gonna keep in place. We might add some variances, but
I think people want to see us do something new
and fresh and different, and we're excited about the challenge
of coming up with those things. For whether it's the
poison breakdown or every little step you know, where people
might understand in the aisles, like Mike said, they're anticipating the.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Move, but we're gonna throw a curveball.

Speaker 11 (30:29):
This time around, and that's what it's all about. I
think the reason why we've been able to stand the
test of time for forty plus years is because we've.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Always challenged ourselves.

Speaker 11 (30:40):
You know, we always really felt like we had to
go deep because the bar was raised for us from
some of the greats that we used to love to
see and when they poured into us, I mean Lakeside.
We would stand on the side of the stage every
night when we were on tour with them, just taking
that energy in. I remember time where my uncle would

(31:01):
have a sit Indian style on the floor, you know,
in a little meditation polls and he would play the
Jackson's Live album and he would tell us to close
our eyes so we can ingest. You know what that was,
and it's paid dividends. So we definitely want to give
people a different experience.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
But you can't do everything that ballplayers get older, they
even got to adjust their game.

Speaker 13 (31:22):
But the.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Right thank you, You gotta appreciate.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
You, gotta tell you.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Gotta tell Brooke that because he ain't trying to hear
that expect that they want the same look from twenty one.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
He'd be like, you try, that's what you're telling you.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Try.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Sometimes the running man just ran out.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
The walking man.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
It's something that you all appreciate about each other than
now that you probably took for granted back then.

Speaker 13 (32:03):
Matthew Ralph, Yeah.

Speaker 17 (32:05):
I think everybody's gifts, you know. I think back then
we didn't realize how talented is.

Speaker 18 (32:10):
I don't think back in the days we realized how
talented everybody really was and what they had to bring
to the tablet had to offer. When we first started,
we was trying to do like a mixture of the
Jackson's Missed the temptations.

Speaker 17 (32:24):
That was our idea of us. So everybody was supposed
to have a role.

Speaker 18 (32:26):
When we came to the Candygirl album, it was more
of this Jackson five ish vibe, which we would have
switched it out the gate. It would have came int
gate a little bit more with everybody's talent talents being
showcased out the gate. So I think that what I've
learned is the brother how smart everybody is, how much
they actually added to the table and brought to the

(32:47):
table that you take for granted because everybody's.

Speaker 17 (32:50):
Supposed to do that part, which just taught you do
your role.

Speaker 18 (32:53):
But then you look back later on, it'say, what if
that he didn't know how to do that, or he
didn't have that give, this might not have.

Speaker 17 (32:58):
Worked at all. That's what I've learned.

Speaker 18 (33:01):
I've learned that everybody's gifted, extremely smart and knows exactly
what we're doing. It has gotten better over time and
we're really a real brotherhood.

Speaker 13 (33:10):
What about y'all.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
I think that in the beginning of our career, we
actually we were groomed, you know what I'm saying by
great people. We had, you know, Michael Bivens, we had
Kylil Rountree, we had Jerl Busby, and a lot of
the things that they were doing was cultivating what they

(33:34):
already knew existed at some point it Mike would tell
you, you know, they didn't know what to do with us
because we weren't doing what everybody else was doing at
the time. So, you know, when it came down to it,
it was more so, you know, knowing what we were
capable of vocally, because that's what the nucleus was. How

(33:54):
good can we be with our harmonies? How can we
set ourselves aside from the rest of the people that
are singing at this time?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
And you know, I.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Think that that was what we focused on more than anything.
We didn't really get into the brotherhood until I guess
things started going awry, you know what I mean, Because
there's not a there's there's always levels to this, you know,
it's ups and down. So when things started getting to
a certain point. I think that's when we said, Okay,
now we have to hold on to each other. Now

(34:25):
we have to hold on to the brotherhood. And as
you can see, we're lesser brother you know what I'm saying.
Because when the chips are down, you know, it's that's
that's a real thing, you know what I'm saying. Everybody
has to stay as strong as you did in the
beginning when you were doing it for nothing, you understand.
So that's what it is. And then we just started
realizing when things were at a certain level that we

(34:48):
needed each other more than anything. We already knew what
we were capable of, I mean, and we gave each
other roles all the way from the beginning. I mean,
there's always been the business guy, you know what I mean.
Shawn's always been kind of like the the creative and
the balance of it all.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
And I'm just a crazy motherfucker, you know what I'm saying,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
And and but them, because I have a responsibility to
the integrity of my group, I had to.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Bring that down.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
And that was because I have people like Brooke and
and you know they they saw it and in their
in their realm, and they.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Were like, Okay, let's let's bring him in. Let's let's
draw bring.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Him back so he don't end up in a in
a different way, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
And and no bull crap, I'm gonna tell you this.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
My dude, the dude that saved my life in numerous
instances that he he don't even remember.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Is this guy right here you understand, yup? He has.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
And because Kyle used to say it all the time,
you ain't gonna be like that motherfucker.

Speaker 13 (35:47):
Remember that name.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Was Publish, You be like that motherfucker. I was like,
but I love him, you know what I'm saying Like.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
That, and and and and it was. It was an
unspoken connection until I met him and then he literally
I will tell that story another time. But this guy
right here, man has.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
He's checked on me even when like he wasn't.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
In New addition, you know what I'm saying, he checked
on me, Like, yo, dude, you in atl I'm like.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Hell, yeah, you know what I'm saying. What we're doing,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
But that's the thought process. The thought process is everybody
got us to a certain point. It was up to
the ups and the downs, the struggles to create the
nucleus that boys to men is right now that to
know what we are all capable of, and we all
play our roles perfectly, which is the reason why God
is blessed us to be so successful at this.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
I want to go back to someone Ralph said, when
you talked about, you know, leaning into everybody, leaning in
everybody's talents earlier, when everybody broke off and had success
outside in the audition, did y'all ever look at each
other and be like, I didn't know they could do that,
Like I didn't.

Speaker 13 (36:52):
Know BBD to do that. I ain't nobody could do that.

Speaker 10 (36:55):
Not me.

Speaker 18 (36:56):
I was just static every time something blew off, when
somebody was winning, I was ecstatic.

Speaker 17 (37:01):
I was at home like day go. That's Bobby was the.

Speaker 18 (37:04):
Dance entertainer, mastering our projects absolutely. You know, when we
grew up, I just knew he was better than all
of us at dancing and entertaining and just just being live.

Speaker 17 (37:13):
You know what I'm saying. He was that dude, and
so not the world.

Speaker 18 (37:18):
The world not being able to see that as a
part of our group, there was a big dynamic missing it.
So when he's when he stepped out and he did it,
It's like, yes, they get to see that we have
that in us too, because there was a lot of
stuff that was becoming real candy girl, real them boys
is real soft or this bubble gum and we don't
get bubble gum.

Speaker 17 (37:38):
So you don't you don't hate it, but you don't
like it either.

Speaker 18 (37:41):
So having another body, and when BBD started representing and
Bobby started representing, Johnny's in the group. Now he's doing
his thing with his grown master. He's just turning everything
to what we I really knew what we had and
letting the world see it. So for me, it was
just finally the world's getting a chance to see what
were really made out of.

Speaker 8 (37:57):
Ralph let me let me, let me give you all
y'all flowers and say that this has been no group,
white or black, that is done what New Audition has done.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Ever, not to me, not for us.

Speaker 8 (38:06):
There's never been a group alive, past, present, or probably future,
that has been a group broke up, all went platinum,
came back again and went platinum again.

Speaker 13 (38:20):
Only one literally, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
So I just want to just put that out there,
like they've done something that is unprecedented.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
And the only way that that could possibly happen is
if we make it happen.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
We can help.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
If we can help a group get to that point,
then that's the only way.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
They have to follow the blueprint.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
If they're not going to follow the blue blueprint, then
it's it's not possible.

Speaker 8 (38:46):
You can't be successful without following what we've done exactly.

Speaker 12 (38:49):
And speaking of that, one more big boy too low time.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yes, I love them, Thank you for them.

Speaker 12 (38:58):
I mean we're talking about the boy got the voice.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
I'll tell you what. I am so ready to tap in.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
And you know, God blessed them definitely, and they're passionate
about it. And with with different opportunities that come my way,
I'm going to definitely make sure that you know, we
we we tap in.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
You know, Oh man, thank you so much.

Speaker 11 (39:22):
When you think about some of the things that allow
you to be successful, you know is discipline, and they
do and they do.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
On top of the discipline, you have to have consistence.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Absolutely. It's something that.

Speaker 11 (39:35):
We had, as Rick said, early in our career before
the opportunity presented itself. You know, we were prepared because
of the consistent consistency time, rehearse, rehearse, rehears. But we
see them putting their videos out and make sure that
they're staying consistent, working on their craft.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
You know that they have to have.

Speaker 13 (39:54):
To get to.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Touch thee. Yeah, we're going to be on. We got
to definitely make oh Man.

Speaker 14 (40:01):
Come on, you know what to Charlamagne.

Speaker 15 (40:05):
Like, there's quiet storms in our group and you guys
just really get to hear the music, send the concept.
You don't get to get on the conference calls where
this shit really goes down. He don't come in the
dressing room where this shit really goes down. But I
would just say this and Rizzo, you know, he's always
gonna say it so eloquently because that's how he speaks.

(40:26):
But you know, Ralph's important. When he shows up to
do the show. It gives us a sense of strength.
When he walks through the door. It's like Brady coming
through the door. Yes, it is what it is. And
you know when Bob is hurting or his leg and
he's just like, fuck it, let's go.

Speaker 14 (40:43):
I'll just stand over here.

Speaker 15 (40:44):
He's like, basically, I can't do that shit, but I'm
gonna rock this bicrophone and that means everything to the
audience right when we're trying to make a decision. You know,
Big Bro Johnny Gill, he's he's a heavy voice in
our group. You know, he's a he's older, he's wiser,
he's not just a singer, but he's a leader by conversation,

(41:06):
and he keeps us at a high standing. Just just
some ship we not accepting, and that's just that. And
in prayer that's mister Ricky Bell. Whenever we need to
hear a good kind word, he'll close the car. And
that's so powerful to keep us together. And of course,
you know Bro over there when he was speaking about
the dance moves, it's because he makes us reach for excellence.

Speaker 14 (41:29):
And that's Ronnie.

Speaker 15 (41:30):
You know what I'm saying. When we want to go
sit down and grab some water. Nah nah, let's go
two more times. And you see that in his performance
on stage. So I was just gonna say what makes
us tight? What Ralph said is everyone brings something to
the table, and I want to say it on the
Breakfast Club because I don't know when we'll all be
back here together.

Speaker 18 (41:48):
Hold on, Mike, let me get you before you finish,
And Mike slaughter is the point.

Speaker 14 (41:54):
God thanks Zill.

Speaker 18 (41:56):
He hands the ball to everywhere he carries the ball,
he knows next play to make. He's thinking of the
next play to make, and he knows who to deliver
the ball to to make sure that we get we
scored the basket.

Speaker 14 (42:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (42:07):
We win the game.

Speaker 15 (42:08):
Yeah, thanks bro. And I want to say this because
it ain't over. But because of this guy. You know,
he's mature. When I met him, he was just ready
to sponge get all the information. But if it wasn't
for Nate Morris, I would have never been to CEO.
He's seen something in me that I didn't see it myself.

(42:29):
So I always wanted to tell him. I tell him
in Texas, I tell him on the phone, but I'm
gonna say it to the world.

Speaker 14 (42:34):
Thank you.

Speaker 15 (42:35):
He changed my life. He helped me see something I
didn't see. I was nineteen. I know my words in
Curson was heavy, but that's because I loved y'all and
I wanted y'all to be the best, and I just
wanted to stop.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Come on, let me finish, let me finish.

Speaker 13 (43:03):
What did you see what.

Speaker 10 (43:06):
I mean? I just it just seemed like from the
outside looking and you gotta remember we we weren't in
the industry at the time, but you know, from the
outside looking in, I saw what what Ralph just said,
you know what I'm saying. It just felt like he
was a guy that kind of held the group together.
He had, you know, put everybody in different positions, and
at that point, I felt like, you know, it's a

(43:26):
group that we look up to. I mean honestly, and
I mean I've never never told Mike, but I mean
he did. He was. He was my first hero in
the music industry. I mean, that's pretty much what it was.
So for me, it was like, if if he can
do that for them, you got to be able to do.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
It for us.

Speaker 13 (43:45):
And that's crazy. Like I said, I just idea.

Speaker 17 (43:48):
I thought there was going to.

Speaker 14 (43:49):
Be real quick, but be able to.

Speaker 10 (44:02):
Here's the deal, We're gonna have our conversation. We ain't straight,
but we know we ain't straight, but we all know
we're gonna go get this money. We're gonna please these fans,
and we're gonna figure out what we gotta do. Either
we're gonna fix it or not, but we all gonna
go out here and do what.

Speaker 13 (44:19):
We that's a smarter move.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah, Well let me ask the question, Biff, if you
could go back and renegotiate that first deal with boys
and men with everything you know, now, what would you
do differently?

Speaker 1 (44:31):
That's a good question. That's a good question.

Speaker 15 (44:36):
So honestly, I think some of those deals was something
that Gerald suggested. See he's the one that said be
an executive. He said do a production, do publishing do
or I didn't even think like that, you know what
I mean? And if the same choken, he was totally
against it. He didn't really like boys to men, you know,

(44:57):
so I'm fighting for them to be heard and to
be seen. He helps him destructure stuff, and I thought
that it was a it was a gamble. And the
thing is like, we never had a lawyer sit in
the room with us when we signed. It was just
us and them. Yeah, and we went through the paperwork

(45:18):
and we just did it. The good thing about it
is it was successful, right, and the record label, honestly,
the record label needed a hit to keep the light
song that we mother fucking kept the light song right.
We were thinking about it, right, and then so so
to think to think the thing is this even in

(45:41):
all of that. What was the easier way to do
it was fifty to fifty. Now remember, and their fifty
is for them. In my fifty, there's one. And so
a lot of the stuff that might, you know, look
a little different later, it's through success. So a lot
of that stuff there might have been the things that
made it look a little crazy, made it feel a

(46:02):
little different, but I was crazy. Yeah, But at the
end of the day, what was able to come out
of it and what was able to do.

Speaker 14 (46:11):
We didn't fail, or we wouldn't be here.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
I was gonna say, Mike and the fall that was
Joe was your mentor. And just like what you know
we were talking about earlier about the other guys talking
about us being their mentors. And it's so funny because
when you influenced or you're being taught the game, you're
rocking with the game. You're rocking with it, and you're
learning as you go. But I can say this in
a nutshell Listen, we all have been through a journey,

(46:36):
been through some ups and downs and changes and turnarounds
in our lives. And when you look at where we
are today, we're blessed.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
We're all blessed and guess what, so what we had
to go through to get here.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
At the end of the day, here, I'm not mad
at anybody because this is like looking at God and
smacking them in the face, because you're saying, I'm mad
that you took me through this.

Speaker 9 (46:56):
To get here towards riving today, I'm grateful.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
And nobody has walked the road and that has been easy,
and that has been just that simple.

Speaker 9 (47:04):
It doesn't work like that.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
I agree, I agree totally. I agree, Johnny, But you know,
under the circumstances as human beings, you know what I mean, emotions, emotions,
me and everything. As human beings, you know, you have
thought process. We have to respect the human in each
other because it might be easier for some people to
get over things than others, you know what I'm saying.
Like for me, you know, my getting over it is

(47:26):
very simple. I was the youngest and I lived in
the projects. This man saved my life. You understand, he
gave me an opportunity by the grace of God. God
saved my life through bi He gave us the opportunity.
So in my mind, he did what he was supposed
to do for me. It was up to me to
go the next to the next place. It was up
to us to do that, and we did. You know

(47:47):
what I mean, under the circumstance of forgiveness and all
of those things. A communication is everything, you know what
I mean, And it does not take away from the
fact that you guys are our heroes, our mentors.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
You understand that way.

Speaker 10 (48:00):
And again, like I said, I don't I don't speak
much because I only want to speak about stuff that matters.
But in this case, like I said, you know, we've
been able to be where being the nucleus that we've
been for the last few years, and like one said,
we all just got into the room together for the
first time in a long time. And that's the feat

(48:22):
in itself. I would say, even with with whatever it
might be, whatever we'll handle or deal with whatever, it's
a feat in itself. There's a lot of groups out
here today that you know, get emotional about things and
don't know how to handle business correctly, right and the kids.
You handle business first, and then you handle your family
stuff in the back room and not on the internet
in the media. So that being said, again, it ain't

(48:43):
nothing but love in this room. Whatever else we're gonna
deal with we'll deal with deal with us.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I mean, I love, I love the fact that your
guys are coming together, right because you'll all had individual
battles in the press.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
And the public, in the group and all that. But
the fact that you look at how many you know,
even rappers and R and B singers on this wall.
Let's no longer.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Ahead, you know what I mean, the fact that there'd
have been so many should have or could have or
dann that would have been dope, y'all are actually pulling
it off like that could have been.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
It's going to happen on this tour.

Speaker 9 (49:10):
That's why this is important to see.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
That two amazing groups that can really sing and can dance,
Well say y'all, but singing dance to pull off this
show is amazing. And it ain't a small Beacon theater.
No disrespect to becing theater, y'all doing arenas So for that,
we applause, y'all. And I know I'm so excited to
see multiple dates and I'm gonna be on the side
of the stage just the case one of the members

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ain't there.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
I know, both groups.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
If y'all name your uniform, because it's about to be
reverse racis because I don't see that many light skin.

Speaker 13 (49:42):
That's why it was so successful.

Speaker 10 (49:50):
Ain't even that light year.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
He ain't that lights year, Ronnie, my wife says, Peanut butter.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Are y'all helping Bois and men develop their biopic? I
remember there was rumors of a boys men biopick at
one time.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
To see that happen.

Speaker 8 (50:11):
I mean, we're still in the embryonic stages of it,
still trying to get things together because we want to
make sure that the story is told the right way,
because there are a lot of things that by design,
we have not said. You know, there's been a lot
of things that's been mentioned about the group and said
about the groups and things that nature that we.

Speaker 9 (50:30):
Just kind of watched the last kept quiet, you.

Speaker 8 (50:32):
Know what I'm saying, because you know, it's it's funny
how certain people in the industry tend to think that
they can score points on us because maybe we don't
because oh Jesus Christ, I won't gonna say now, but
but my point, my point is that a lot of
people tend to try to score points on us because
we're not affiliated with a gang, or we wouldn't roll

(50:52):
up on somebody.

Speaker 9 (50:53):
Because we do, and we don't say that. We keep
it quiet, busy because and.

Speaker 8 (50:58):
A lot of the things that that are said it's
hilarious to us, especially because when you see the people
that are actually saying it, you gotta always consider the source, right,
and when and when you see their positions and the
lives they're living and things that nature outside of all
of the shock value of oh, somebody said this, If

(51:19):
you look a little deeper, you say, oh, okay, that's
why they said that.

Speaker 12 (51:24):
Now.

Speaker 8 (51:24):
You know. The thing about the industry, though, is that
everybody knows everything about everybody.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
If I wanted.

Speaker 8 (51:33):
To come on this this radio show and talk about
certain people, I know I could because I know exactly
what happened, who did it?

Speaker 9 (51:41):
The whole nine yards.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
People.

Speaker 15 (51:44):
You know is we're in the error where you could
just reply with your fingers, right, say what you say.
You can tell someone meet me at such and such whatever, right,
But you gotta look at it this way. Within the
nine of us, I'm sure all of us have been
through something and learn something. I would say this sitting

(52:05):
next to Bob. He might have some of the toughest
skin I've ever seen any individual. Hats and the one
thing I never seen though I was gonna.

Speaker 14 (52:20):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 15 (52:21):
This was gonna say this, but I've never seen Bob
really wild out the way you may say it.

Speaker 14 (52:30):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 15 (52:31):
I hear people say ship to Bob to me, and
I say to myself, I like the way he carries
himself and sometimes you gotta pop off. But I'm just saying,
the skin is deep, and we got that somebody in
our group. That is what you're talking. The ship, the
ship he got to hear when he's sitting on with
his kids, that ship just go to the soul.

Speaker 9 (52:50):
And as brothers, we.

Speaker 15 (52:52):
We check somebody when we're around someone and say no, no, no, no, no, no, nigga,
you can't do that. We're not gonna do that, and
you're supposed to do that if he But see, the issue.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
The issue is not us though, you know what I mean,
it's the people.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
You know what I'm saying. Everyone has an opinion, you
know what I mean. They call it social media, but
there's nothing social about it at all, you know what
I mean. The thought process about it is when someone
says something about you, it's fine, especially if it's true.
I don't care but I'm tired of people lying about us.

(53:27):
They lie about us, and we never say nothing. Well,
I got a messed up knee, I got three schools
in it, and I'm getting myself together. Before you go there,
I want to give him an example of how we
don't say anything like people been talking about our fourth
member forever.

Speaker 10 (53:44):
Oh, y'all did this to him. Y'all kicked him out,
he was sick. Y'all ain't give a shit about him.
Y'all don't know the story. And that's okay because we
keep that in. But I tell you one thing we've
never done. We've never said anything about him until the
latter years, to make sure that man, if he's not
here and have a.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Career, absolutely absolutely you don't do that.

Speaker 10 (54:04):
So we don't. We don't do that. That's not I mean,
I'm the least social media guy on the planet. Yes, yes,
it is no need for I don't live in that space,
so it's no need to go in there and deal
with all the craziness.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
So when someone is doing that and telling stories like
literally fabricated stories, I feel like it's it's just felt
like time, you know, time to to defend the integrity
of my group of my fellas, myself, you know what
I mean. And you know, look, I'm not gonna say

(54:36):
boys to men. We was the cleanest niggas on the
planet Earth. You know what I'm saying. We did some stuff.
You know what I'm saying, a lot of people. You know,
I'm pretty sure we puts some people off, you know
what I mean? And right, but at the end of
the day, we were trying to protect our brand. We
were trying to protect it. We didn't have Michael bibbins
on over us anymore to protect us. We didn't have

(54:57):
Kyle lil Rountree he got murdered.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
You know what I'm saying. We were trying to figure
out all kinds of things managerial.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
We have Michael Jackson and Prince telling us to know
your works and don't let nobody get over on you.
You know, So we we developed a chip a chip.
We started looking at everybody like, oh no, you're not
going to do this to us. You're not going to
do this to us. So when they hear our voices
because we were so silent because everybody else was doing
it for us, now we're assholes, you know, you understand,

(55:24):
just because we're sitting in the studio and we're working
on a project, does not mean that we're going to
be consorting.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
That's not what boys to men do. When we're in
the studio.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
We work.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
We don't have time to play games, you know what
I'm saying, Because we have a We have to please
these fans, you know, So when someone is saying, you
know that we said something as specific about a friend
of ours, Come on.

Speaker 20 (55:52):
I saw you jump in the comments and say what
you said. But so why now even address that if
you know it's not truly.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Because I got time. I got a messed up knee.

Speaker 17 (56:04):
I was sitting.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
I was sitting on the damn couch. I couldn't get up,
I couldn't drive. I was watching cartoons and playing PlayStation
and I saw that shit and I said, hmm, this
will be fun.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
And guess what it was. It was very fun because
I got a chance to.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Let the people who really cared on that page know
that it was a lie. Now you could choose to
take it wherever you want. I'm just trying to figure
out where it came from. I never said anything derogatory
about Chili. If you read the comments I said, I
love those girls. I said, we have history together. I'm
just trying to figure out what happened. I mean, we
heard that Tian said, after the past of my thing,

(56:45):
I ain't staying for this corny ass shit, corny ass show.
That's what you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, why,
I love you.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
We love y'all. Like the nostalgia. When we walk into
the room, they jump into our I mean, Chili used
to jump into our arms.

Speaker 17 (56:58):
Lie, It's like, what's good.

Speaker 15 (57:00):
At the end of the day, we were just gonna
sell some tickets because because to be honest with you,
this where we are and what we're trying to do.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Were trying to inspire absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 15 (57:13):
And you guys, this movie is gonna be a great movie.
It's gonna be from your point of view. Your fans
are gonna love it. And we just want them to
come to this so they could see us together because
we've never done this, absolutely, you know, and this this
is really our first interview. So the Breakfast Club is
really the first interview of us all together.

Speaker 6 (57:35):
Can I just say to you guys and boys and man,
let me just say this and I'll shut up. But
I'm glad that you guys are telling your story because
in the world that we're living in now with social
media and everybody can get on there and say what
they want, ruin people's lives, ruin your reputation, they can
do a number of things.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
It is important. No, you can't fight the whole world.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
No, we'll never be able to change sometimes people no
matter whether it's the truth or not. But when it
comes from the horse's mouth and it's written in stone.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
It can't be raised.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
Can't tell your story nothing else at the end of
the day, with your legacy. Anybody want to believe, whether
they want to believe, that's all. It's all well and fine,
but it has come from the horse's mouth directly in this.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (58:14):
So so the answer, yes, we're working on the biopic.
Bib is definitely gonna put his input into it, and
work is.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Going to have you know what I'm saying, because it's
everybody's story, everybody every.

Speaker 9 (58:27):
It's everybody's story. But the stuff they want and everybody
was touching on man and people that were saying they
corny the cornball, I'm like, none of that ship.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Hey, he don't internet, he don't he internet? On social
media all.

Speaker 10 (58:43):
I live in the real world. Yeah, nothing has nothing
to do with me. I don't know none of those people.
I tell my son, if you might just open the
front door and just let everybody walk in the house.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
How many fights you get into on tour when people
try to play, Yeah, because people always try to play
an R and B artist like you always think of
RMB artist a soft bubble.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
But how many times you got to throw somebody around,
move some purture, you know.

Speaker 14 (59:07):
What They.

Speaker 10 (59:13):
They try to talk to me like, yo, bro, it
ain't worth it.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (59:16):
You know, so, I mean it's not a lot, but
oh it's not a lot. But I mean, you know,
ship man, some people I think.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
They getting twisted.

Speaker 17 (59:30):
This guy's the difference between R and B and some
other genres.

Speaker 10 (59:39):
The greatest Day. I don't know why, because we speak peace,
people think we can't throw no ju the.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Bow ties for you.

Speaker 9 (59:48):
You know what I'm saying. It's one of those things
where it's like.

Speaker 8 (59:50):
We never had this braggadocious bravado, like you know, walking
around like tough guys because we have to because we
sing love songs.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Why you're mad at us? We say love? That's how
we do.

Speaker 9 (01:00:03):
Don't You don't get it twisted, and.

Speaker 10 (01:00:06):
I mean, it's the shame.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I think.

Speaker 10 (01:00:08):
I think it's the same vibe with new addition though,
because people was like calling him, you know, popcorn, but
you know, or parking popcorn. I'm saying popcorn.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I've been there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
I've been there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Johnny and Bobby go at people and call people like
what you say about me.

Speaker 12 (01:00:21):
I'm laying.

Speaker 13 (01:00:24):
No, no, he used to play with Johnny.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I got issues.

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
Listen, I'll talk about God in a minute, but I'll
kick your ass in the next and then I turn
around and asking for forgiveness.

Speaker 9 (01:00:36):
Ship not get off, leave us issues, let us love.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
One last question, if the if, the both, if the
early nineties version of y'all could see this reunion now,
I could see this tour.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Now what you think with.

Speaker 12 (01:00:55):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
It's long over, dude.

Speaker 9 (01:00:59):
I think it would have been different.

Speaker 8 (01:01:01):
It would have been I think it would have actually
catapulted both groups to another stage because of the synergy
and because of the importance of it. But again, we
we we live in a God's timing, and the bottom
line is it was supposed to happen now at this moment.
We're older, we're wiser, We understand not just each other,

(01:01:24):
but we understand each other's places in our lives. We
know that by osmosis, we're connected. And again, branch that
we a branch of the tree.

Speaker 9 (01:01:35):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:01:36):
And again let's let's get it twisted. We will always
pay homage to these guys, you know what I'm saying
for and thankful for what these guys have done for us.
And this is our way of telling that story in
an entertaining way. But two and a half three hours,
like Ron said, we're gonna give you guys our story
and and have the best time ever.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Know, I can't wait get your tickets. If you haven't
got your tickets yet, don't be trying to by me.

Speaker 14 (01:02:02):
Because you can't.

Speaker 9 (01:02:03):
Dan and I have an announcement.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Hell now, I'm not giving away no free tickets. I
did that two tours, and every time I did that,
it was not showing up. And I'm spending all this money.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Some show up something money.

Speaker 10 (01:02:15):
Listen, this is no, it's a no comp tour. No,
I'm not giving away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I'm done tickets.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
If you haven't got your tickets, And and I can't
wait with the tickets sale.

Speaker 15 (01:02:27):
We know what pre sale yesterday, talking to your main
thing is talking Friday, pre sale Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
But the main thing is Friday, Friday, ticket on sale Friday.
Get you with they're talking about thirty thirty. I'm sure
it's gonna be more than that because they have to ask.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
Yeah, sell out so fast.

Speaker 13 (01:02:44):
I'm just having grown folks got something to do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Man's gonna be man, no audition boys to man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
Thank y'all for joining us having.

Speaker 14 (01:02:57):
That's what I meant.

Speaker 13 (01:02:58):
Why Tony, Why why did y'all decide to get to them?

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
We needed a queen and I thought that honestly, she
was to me. I thought was a great, great part.
It could be a great part of this. This this
the whole movie, because it's about when you're doing a
show like this, you want catalog, you want everything to
be able to fit perfectly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
And I think that she just fits for the for
the first choice. Yes, she was my first choice.

Speaker 14 (01:03:23):
Yeah yeah, that conference call was different, but she's there.

Speaker 10 (01:03:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:03:29):
Made the call to her personally, Oh yeah, I did,
you did?

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I talked to her directly, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:03:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 12 (01:03:36):
Because I'm happy. I'm going to be seeing her.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 10 (01:03:45):
Every day.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
A week ago up the Breakfast Club