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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
Just hilarious. Chelamaine the guy.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
We are the Breakfast Club law the Roses here as well.
We got a special guest in the building from the
w W E Trick Williams.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's talk about it. Let's talk about what's going on, everybody.
I do a good man, blessed.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
South Carolina game cock wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, yes, from university, Sir.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I didn't know about the Hampton thing. That's true.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It is, it is, Wow, it is. I went to
Hampton my first two years. Okay, back to the crib.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Interested so you know him?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know he went to absolutely yeah, of course you
already know. Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
It's not fast Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Uh No, Man, I never been, but I did. I
got some seafood, yeah, I got.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So how do you get in the wrestler?
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Man?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
How did this this wrestling thing come about? Because you
started with football, So how did you get into wrestling?
Speaker 7 (00:57):
Right?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Man?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It was an accident.
Speaker 8 (00:58):
So, like you said, I started hamp Universe City, transferred
to South Carolina that had a brief stint with the
Philadelphia Eagles where I went to camp and then long
story short, I got cut from the Philadelphia Eagles and
trying to figure out what was next for my life.
I had an agent who actually got me trying to
give me some more trials and everything. Then got me
hooked up with the XFL. I think it was just
(01:19):
a blessing because I never played for the XFL. As
soon as they set my information there, WWE reached out
to me said, are you interested in coming in for
a tryout?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh so they reached out to you.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So did you have wrestling background or did you ever
do anything with wrestling?
Speaker 8 (01:31):
Never wrestled in my life. I was a fan, you know,
at three years old, I opened a can of whoop
ass watching the Stone Colch Steve Austin. Like I was
always a fan. I watched it, but I never thought
about actually wrestling, Like just didn't know. It's the opportunities.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So then you had to learn how to wrestle r
because it's not just one of those things you could
just go slap somebody just opened up a cann of
whoop passle when they reached out to you, was it
a training process? It was a program, what breakdown, what happened?
What got you into your first bout?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Exactly? They Brohnatorlando.
Speaker 8 (01:59):
I tried out and they said, Yo, you got charisma,
you got a good look and everything, but.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Try out if you never wrestled before.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I mean, that's a good question. DJ.
Speaker 8 (02:06):
Let me tell you so for twenty years I played football,
where if you're good at football, you stay on your feet,
very physical sport, a very physical sport. My first day
of becoming a WWE superstar, you learn how to fall, bump, cartwell,
flip all this other stuff. So it wasn't natural to me.
Like I wasn't a gymnast. I'm still not gymnasts. So
they didn't sign me. So I had to move to Philadelphia.
(02:27):
Back to Philadelphia, stayed with my uncle and I trained.
I wrestled COVID broke out. I stayed on the independent scene.
You know, you can think about something similar to comedy
or something like that. You know, before you make it
big and you know you got your own shows and
you're on wild'n Out and stuff like that, you know
you're on the indies and you make a name for yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So I had to do that first.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Wow, do you feel pressure to represent like black culture
and wrestling, or do you just show up and be
yourself and let let's let everything play out.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, man, I can't. I can't be anything else. Damn black,
you know what I mean. I can't change my skin,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
I'm raised how it was raised, and I feel like
the better I do in this field, the better it
is for you know, people who look like me, period.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But you know, this is who I am. I can't
change it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
How difficult it was it to learn wrestling and the
falling and the whatever wrestling is.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
How difficult was that?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It takes years?
Speaker 8 (03:19):
It takes years because you know, playing football is about
getting the job done, catching the touchdown, making the tackle,
et cetera. Wrestling's everything, you know. I mean, we grab microphones,
we tall trash. You know, we got to look good.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
We got to know our camera angles, We got to
feed to the cameras. We gotta do this, We gotta
do that. You got to be the ultimate showman to
be good at the craft.
Speaker 9 (03:39):
And a lot of people think that it's fake, you know,
obviously whatever, but like it's it's real, like y'all really
getting hurt.
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean my neck hurt right now. But
you know the way I got pictures like this. Okay,
yes there's a script attached to it. You know it's predetermined.
But you know, y'all got scripts right now in front
of your computer screen. If football, you know, but we do,
you know, we prepare.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
You know.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
If it's football, you got you know, a playbook, Basketball,
you got plays. The beauty is not in the script,
it's in the execution. And Trick Williams is the best executor.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
So that's why you said, I always wonder what's the
psychology behind getting ten thousand people to chance your name
because it might be a little scripted, but the crowd
reaction got to be real, right right.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
Right, And that's the beauty of it. Because some people
do their job so well, you know what I mean.
There's something about him, the way he walks out and
he just got that swab, or or something about her,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
They like the way she looks. It could be her smile,
it could be the way you know, the wind blow
that day, like you never know what it is. Some
people are just that good.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
At the craft and they whoop that trick when you're
coming out and like they having a party when you
walk out.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's a movement. Yeah, the whole movement with that.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, man, it was.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
It was a blessing, you know what I mean. I
started NXT where the crowd just adopted that. You know,
my name being Trick Williams, my birth name being Matric
you know, Trick was a nickname, so it just it fit.
And whooped that trick fit with Trick and it took.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Off that too. Yeah, trick she does, she does? When
did you talk to what she does too?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
When did you know it was gonna work?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Like?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
When was that time? He was like, oh, they really
catching on? Do you remember that match?
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Yeah, I would say, I would say when. So at NXT,
we're in front of a set audience in Orlando and
we barely leave the house, like four hundred five hundred
fans and they started chaing whoop that trick there, which
is cool.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It's like, but we're in the same crowd, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
You don't really know how the world feels about you.
Then we went all the way to California and in
front of five thousand and the whooped that trick. Chance
was crazy, and I won my first title. I'd be
dominating my stereo Raymond Stereo Son And that's when we
knew like, okay, this movement is something crazy and it
has a slow down.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Since does w W call you at that time? But like, hey,
look we gotta talk, we gotta get some things. But
they call you when when they start hearing it, Nah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Nah, That's not how Sean Michaels operate.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You know.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
Shoot, when you start succeeding, now you're in the high seat,
you know what I mean, It's like once you get
your first album, you know, and it hit you know,
now the pressure is on because now you got to
follow up. You got to be able to you know
what I mean, You got to meet that pressure of
everything that comes with that. So once the people get
behind you, that's when hard work really start.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You in the hot seat.
Speaker 9 (06:14):
How different is how different is the wrestler matric? I
mean you're metric from the wrestler trick Williams.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
It depends who you ask. Like people from high school,
they be like, oh, that's who he is, Like he
always been like that. But I just turn it up
when the red lights on. You know what I mean,
I talk mold trash. I mean, you don't walk around
life just pimp slapping people and talking trash.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know what I'm saying. It has to be a
reason for it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
But like you got to be able to feel the
true emotions on the inside somewhere to you know, make
it feel real when it's.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
When it camera.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Ke Okay high school. You really grew up right there, right.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
There in my family from the same Matthews you love country.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Yeah, you and your fiance last legend, both of you
guys made it to the main roster. And that's what
you're talking about. How like that was like a cheat
cod because y'all get in the travel of the world
and do all these things. So what's that been Like?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
It's been amazing. Man. You know, she with me all
the time.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
I say all the time all the time, so you know,
and you know it just it helps you feel a
little bit more supported, you know, when you're in these
foreign rooms, when you're dealing with people who are different
than yourself. You know what I'm saying, Like, I know,
my lady out with me, you know, regardless of how
I go, regardless you know I debut on SmackDown, I'm
good my lady, you know, she here, so we make
(07:29):
sure that we're confident and were prepared to go put
on the best show.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Anybody running into your house, that's the worst.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
And look man, and people say, like, oh, they be nervous.
They want to make sure that they partner does well
when they perform and everything. My fiance, she's six foot
you know what I'm saying, one, not five two hundred
like basketball, you know, MVP, you know, see Out of
Storm all that. So I don't be nervous for her.
I be nervous for everybody she in the ring with,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
She liked to fight. J don't want that. Look. I
respect Jade and you know she from you know, she
cool people, But there's only one lash.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Is it challenging working with you? Do you find any
challenges with it? I know y'all are supportive verts of
each other, but you know you're still together.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
I would take these challenges over the other challenges I gotcha. Yeah,
of not seeing each other because we never home, so
like if if she was at the crib but it
was doing something else, then it would be difficult.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
How did y'all meet in the business.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
Yeah, a lot of wrestlers date wrestlers. You know, that's
just how it is, like you date where you're at
you know, you know that's a long another story. I
know we got time for that, you know what I mean.
So all right, let's talk about it, okay. You know,
so you know we at the PC, that's what we
call where we trained, the Performance Center. And you know
it's just people from college, people from different backgrounds, people
(08:50):
from you know, what we call the indies. Like I
said before, football players, basketball players, all this sort. I'll
say ninety percent of people come in in a relationship.
Two months in, I'll say there's about five percent of
them still in that relationship, because that's just how the.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Business is like.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Once you in it, it's like a whole other world.
And if you're not in it, a lot of people
just don't understand, like what do you mean you got
to stay and trained with you know, women who barely
dress and everything, or why you know, guys don't never
got this shirt on. It's a lot for people, you know,
who are not in it. Long story short. You know,
I was, I was in a little relationship, but you
(09:28):
know me and last it was cool.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It was friends, and you know that didn't work.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Out.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
So I saw lash, you know, and people thought we
was talking different stuff like that. But now we were
just cool. It's just friends. I try to you know,
press some game on it, cut a promo nothing. I
was stumbling. I was stuttering all over the flax. Yeah,
and I'm a promo guy like I like to talk. Yeah,
and you know I went to talk to out.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You and me together.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
She wasn't with it at first though.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right now she friends on me, quit.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
The friend zone.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I mean she was like, now you're my homie free
and daped me up.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
How did you feel that moment?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But I felt, you know what I'm saying, it was
a friend zone like because you know she.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Here's the truth about the matter. You know, she wasn't either,
you know what I'm saying. So she did what she
had to do.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But you know, we never crossed that line then and that,
but like we just grew as friends and then one day.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Man, you know it is so how did you get
out the friend zone?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Man? Just being me, I had the baby steps once
you get the big toe in the rest of you know,
he was.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
How does that help you? Guys? Brands? Just because I
know you have your singler brands, but together because now
they're calling you like one of the w W e's
like power couples straight up.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, I mean that was never the goal, Like it
wasn't trying to be a power couple per se. You know,
I just rock with her.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
But it definitely helps, you know what I mean, Like
you have double the reason to be invested into both
of us now because like if you're a Trick.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Wins fan, you rot with last, she ro last you
brought with Trick and you know it just works like that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Do Y'll hit each other with wrestling moves around the
house just randomly like.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, man, she abusive. Damn she abusive? Man, Like I
need help.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
You wish you stayed a friend.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Uh you know the funny The funny thing is, you know,
like she like the strongest girl in thereb no ca
you know what I'm saying. Joke she no joke.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
But in the house she's just so oh help me,
you know what I mean? Oh no, we got a
lizard in the house. We stay in Florida.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You know what I mean. I hate lizard. Like, but
you did body slam with three hundred, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 7 (11:46):
But that means you put her in a really safe space. Yeah,
because she's very successful. And I watched you guys on
the Sports Bible to agree to disagree. I watched that
and I was I loved how you guys interact because
I can tell for her to be so successful, you're
so successful as well. Normally there's this like thing when
you're a successful woman where you have to always like
you're on guard and you're always protecting what you built.
She just be fully like, my man's here when when
(12:09):
you're you know what I mean. That's a great thing
to see.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
And I had to put my foot down. Sometimes you
got to body slamming and let her know, you know
what I mean safely.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
We don't know if this is I think you can
beat you though I in front.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Man, A lot of people think that.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Go up the coat and got on another coat.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Let me tell you somethingout in New York, like she
say you, Normally I don't got no shirt on. But
today I was prepared.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
There last night you're.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
From Soccerlina in Florida. This wasn't you get used to it?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Nah? Man, No, no, I don't play that now.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
In wrestling, you got to balance ego in storytelling, Right,
how do you stay confident without letting the character of
Trick Williams consumed?
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Really, I mean, honestly, I think just man, people around
me keeping me grounded. Like my mama, She'll let me
know if I'm tripping, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, before I cut a promo and I'm finished
say something on live TV, I always think about my mama.
I know she's watching. Shout to my mom. She had
surgery last night. But yeah, but the people around me
(13:13):
just keep me grounded, man, like they always you know
what I mean. You know, once I take off the shades,
the coat, the limon, pepper stepas. You know what I'm saying,
Once I take all that off, you know, last at
the crib, like take out the trash, you know what
I mean, Like, oh yeah, we take out the trash,
you know, just keeping it real.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Historically, right, I feel like wrestling hasn't always portrayed black
wrestlers with a lot of depth, right, Like do you
feel like this era is finally allowing black talent to
show personality behind the stairs, beyond the stereotypes, right.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I mean, first and first, I gotta say shout out
to Nick Cohn Triple Hs because man, they've allowed me
to be myself. Like all these promos I'm cutting, you know,
all these different things. It comes from my head and
they say, man, go be you, you know what I mean,
Go get yourself over like let's see, let's see who
you are, Let's see how it works. And it's been working,
you know what I mean. It's not just me. Like
(14:10):
three of us moved up from NXT together, Javon Evans, oh,
Befe me, all brothers and everybody's eating right now. And
that's probably you can't say any other time in the
history of WWE that a young black man is, you know,
coming to the business and got pushed like this. So
that's no shade to anybody who came before us, because
I'm grateful for you know, the Shelton Benjamin's, the Booker T's,
(14:31):
et cetera. But you know, they laid down the footwork
for us to get this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Now, wrestling is entertainment, but it's also a business as well.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
When did you realize the business and say, you know what,
I have to make myself a brand so I could
be seen and I could be heard.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
When did that come about?
Speaker 8 (14:45):
Yeah, I mean very early, because like I wasn't always
like you know, people's favorite, you know, people's pick. Like
I started off, I was like a hype man. I
would talk trash on somebody else's behalf, and I wanted matches.
I wanted the spotlight. I wanted that stuff. I was like, dang, man, like,
I need to make myself popping so I can get
on the show myself, you know what I mean. And
(15:06):
so I started doing my own ventures on social media,
you know what I mean, making little skits, you know,
making rap songs, I make dis tracks, you know what
I mean, on my opponents, doing whatever it tastes like,
Like I gotta get myself popping, and so I'm building
my own brand now.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
At the same time, I was reading about a possible
face turn that they're saying might happen with you and
explain to people because I had to teach myself last night.
It's where the villain goes to the good guy.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
Yeah, storyline, that's right, Like in storytelling period, there's a
good guy bad guy, you know, one on one for storytelling,
he gets more complex. But you know the same thing
that we're doing wrestling, and right now I'm supposed to
be what we call it hell a bad guy. But
you know what I mean, I'm one of those heels
that people tend to like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Everybody loves to heal.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Stone Cold was a hell turn into a you know ball.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Okay, person who don't really watch y'all. I always know
there's a good guy, bad guy, but I didn't know
that the terms of it.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
The rock was a hill Hollywood rock, you know, and
see me personally, I like being the bad guy because
when you're the bad guy, you got more freedom to
be yourself, you know, when you live in this little
box when you're a good guy, like.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Hey, how you doing kids? Hey, let me sign this
for you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (16:17):
That's not real life. I feel more like a politician,
you know what I mean, as a good guy, as
a hell.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I ain't worried about.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Pleasetograph, ain't.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I mean, I still might sign, but you know what
I mean.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
So it's actually that is going. That's the thing, because
it's reported, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh man, don't believe nothing you see on y'all know
online is online.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
It was reported that the face turn is happening, that
you're going to go from the bad guy to the
good guy.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Man, Man, don't believe Twitter. Now, Twitter, they say what
they want to say.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
So you're still the bad guy right now.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm always the bad guy, okay.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
And that's why you're saying, don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Don't believe it.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I mean, but it doesn't matter because at this point
I just got to stay trick Williams, you know what
I mean. That's what's working. Good guy, bad guy. I
got taught my trash. I gotta look good that, I
gotta wear a coat underneath my coat, none of that.
I ain't gonna have no shirt on. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's crazy, I'm thinking about it. I don't think there's
a good guy ever really liked.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
I always liked the bad guy, even like you know
what I'm saying, Like I like when Hoklgan became Hollywood Halla.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
To me, he's like a heel too, I guess, I
mean he did he turned to a good guy heroist.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Like yeah, Seena was a good guy pretty much a
majority of his career until like this last little running
he turned back.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I like Sting when he was jumping out the raptors,
you know, dressed in all black guy but he would,
but we didn't know for so long what he was
when he went to the crow Era.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
I to me personally, I don't think it even mattered.
Good guy bad guy. People like what they like, right period,
you know what I mean. That's how I look at it,
Like good guy bad I don't really care, Like I
just wanted to be good and entertaining.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
That's all I care.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
When I looked at it, I was like, Okay, this
just means they know that the star is rising, so
they're trying to make sure that they like put around
you whatever you need, because I mean, you're already huge
in it, but they see it getting bigger because everyone
likes you.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You're likable.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Yeah yeah, I mean it is a compliment. So yeah,
I say, I just wanted to be good. I don't
really care.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You said you used to make distracts. You do music,
You're into music.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I do music, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Like, I ain't gonna say like, oh, I'm hard down
trying to be a rapper, but you know I'm musically talented.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah, that you're doing your free.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Time something I do in my free time.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Do you make your own. You still make the musical
when you were a hype man.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, yeah, I still make music. I still got some
projects I'm waiting to leak out, but you know, waiting
for the right time.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And is that heavy jealousy in wrestling? Because I look
at it like there's but so many.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Wrestlers that can make it to that spotlight, right, so
it got to be wrestless hating on each other, got
to be heavy jealousy.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
It's not like football, with.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Is a bunch of teams, bunch of positions, like wrestling
is very small, right, Do you deal with a lot
of jealousy and how to handle it all the time?
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I think I think that's in every field, but in wrestling,
you know specifically, Like I'm new to the game of wrestling,
you know what I mean. I play football for twin
the years. I've been wrestling for five six years. So
to somebody who's been wrestling for fifteen years, they look
at me like, you know, why is he in the
top spot?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You know, I'm a rookie, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (19:11):
If he wasn't six foot five and two hundred and
fifty pounds and had abs and had the good hair
and chains and talk so much trash, then he wouldn't
be that good.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That's a lot of heat like everybody else.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
But like that's that's the game of wrestling, you know,
point blank period. So man, you know how that is.
You just you shove that off.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
But anybody ever try to hurt you in a ring
behind it?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I hope not, because I mean because at that point
you got to defend yourself.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Has that happened, to know what I'm saying, Has it happened?
Has anybody ever.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Tried to I don't.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I don't think off script and really like try to
hurt you.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't think it's pure malicious intent.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
There's some people who are just thrown off in light
violence and if they do something like that, they expect
for you to do the same thing back to them.
But you know, somebody is saying, I don't like trick,
and I'm gonna try to punch him in the face
as hard as I can.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
What's the word seeing happened to you in the in
the ring that wasn't playing?
Speaker 8 (20:04):
I tell you, man, I ran straight into a barricade
and I got six stitches right here. It's bleeding on TV,
and I take that back I was climbing the cage
a match. I wasn't even in mind you. I was
still hype man, and uh dude just hit me with
a chair like through through the gate and kind of
sliced me open right here. You know, a brutal match
called war games when you know weapons are allowed, but
(20:27):
you know, stuff happens.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
You know, he was really trying to get in.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, right, you know those stunt doubles. You gotta do.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Whatever you say, hype man, break that down what a
hype man is because you said you wasn't that wasn't
your match, so you just was in the back.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Of like I'm coming, you know, like like like like
come on, come on, what you want me to do this?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Dang man?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But back, Explain to people what a hype man is.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What you want me to do? Man, Iris.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Look at one another.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Trip.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Explain what a hype man is for people.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
That don't best time I've ever heard of a hype
man in wrestling.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Yeah, like you know Buster rounds, you know Smith, you
know what I mean, Like, you know, Buster is the
main attraction, you know, And I was a guy making
sure that, hey, my guy wins at all times. I'm
doing everything in my power to make sure that they
look like a million bucks. Gotcha, And I did it well.
But you know that was the fun part, Like you
can build a rapport with the audience, you know, you
get comfortable in these different settings and scenarios. Now I'm
(21:41):
on the microphone, I'm doing intros and all this different stuff.
I'm getting better and leveling up, you know on somebody
else's behalf, you know, just growing behind the scenes, you know,
I mean, just working on my craft until you know,
I became the guy.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Do you pick that because it's like somebody like just
random do like I'm gonna be tricks hype man to
just start.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Nah.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Nah, it's not like that. Like a lot of people
who made decisions who you know, kind of put you
in position. But what the problem was, like I was
new into wrestling, so you can't just walk in and
be good, you know what I mean. It's like any
other craft. You gotta take years and years and years
to brush up on your move set and being a performer.
And I needed those reps in time to develop.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
How different is next from w W?
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Yeah, so I would say NXT is like deaf comedy
jam back in the day where you know what I mean,
it wasn't like the mainstream but had that good, gritty,
underground feel, you know what I mean, as opposed to
like you know, the big specials and everything like that,
the Kings of Comedy that's not down or raw, you
know what I mean, But death comedy jam that's how
we feel. You know, it's more intimate. It's more raw,
(22:43):
like people hungry. I would say, like college sports, but
they getting paid now, so is at the.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Same level of resources and everything else?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Yeah, same performance center with based right there in Orlando.
People hungry, man like all different backgrounds like martial artists,
you know, basketball, football, hockey, table tennis, you know, indies
like everybody who's trying to break into the business and
blow up. You know, they got to come through NXT
more times than not all Sometimes I look at it
(23:11):
like they just had to combine last week like man, like,
you know, I feel like there's some untapped potential out there,
but i feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be,
so I'm cool with it.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Is more Is it more rules at WWE compared to NXC,
Like you'all could get away with more at next Well, NXT.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
I would say, now it's way more like, way more
strict at NXT because you're not as polished, so they
want to make sure that you don't do nothing crazy
or stupid on TV. At NXT, like people been in
the business three minutes, you know what I mean, And
they don't live television, so you know, there's more producing,
there's more making sure that people are prepared for TV.
(23:50):
By the time you get the smack down a row.
It's literally your.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Own brand, Like go do what you gotta do to
make it work under the confide of what they give you. Permission,
of course, is still lucrative. Oh yeah, for sure. The show.
The show like definitely worth the switch from football to wrestling.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Would you rather be a Hall of Fame wide receiver
or Hall of Fame in wrestling?
Speaker 8 (24:13):
I say this, what I love about wrestling being a
superstar is the fact I am a superstar. I took
the hymet off and people know me in different countries. Man,
I go to Jamaica on vacation. You know they whooped
that trick in Patois, you know what I mean. I
go to Mexico and Saudi Arabia. Man, they don't speak English.
They carn'ing whoop that trick. Football is a beautiful sport.
(24:35):
I played it for twenty years, but it's very American,
you know what I mean. Like wrestling, you good around
the world. So it's just a whole different feeling, not
even though what's out there now you live in that
matrix or whatever you're doing. But you know, once you
branch out, you'd be like whoa, Like wrestling is huge.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I know WrestleMania forty two. WrestleMania forty two is happening
in April. How does wrestle Mania feel because it always
to me on the outside looking in, always look at
that as wrestling super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
It is, Yeah, it is super Bowl. It's right back
in Las Vegas again this year. Las Vegas is full
of shows, entertainment, magic shows. But we are the show
to come and see the eighteenth and the nineteenth of April,
and your boys gonna have a match.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I guarantee you is a pressure. It's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
Like you said, it's a super Bowl, and like that's
what everybody, that's what it's all about, you know what
I mean? Like you want to main event WrestleMania, you
want to have a match on the biggest stage of
them all. Sixty thousand fans Night one, sixty thousand fans
Night two, one hundred and twenty thousand different people. They
are chanting your name, going crazy like that's what it's
all about. The biggest lights possible, the biggest production, all
(25:35):
the stars come out. It's a good feeling. Yeah, man,
it's about to go down.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Who is your ideal opponent for WrestleMania forty two?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Whoever wanted?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Man?
Speaker 8 (25:45):
You know, I ain't trying to brag, but you know
what I'm saying, Like, Trick is the hottest new talent
on the roster right now. So I mean, anybody who's
trying to get a little jump back into they deal they.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Want to take on Trick Williams for WrestleMania.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Absolutely, we appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Trick Williams, Good luck.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
WrestleMania goes down to eight.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Qu Was your name supposed to be Matric or was
it supposed to be something else, like Matrix or something.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
My name is Matric, man, my dad's name is Patrick,
my mom named Monica, And you know how we do.
You know what I'm saying, You know how it goes?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, Yeah, Trick Mandree Belt matric Andre. My mom's name is.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Rosa.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah doing that, you know, were creative like that.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
That's crazy because I thought you was a little Spanish
and so, yeah, Lauren Lrollo, I didn't know my mom
mom is Patrick?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
His mom, I mean, his dad is Patrick, his mom's mom.
It's the same thing. Black people just love putting names together.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, okay, but there you have it. It's Trick Williams
from the w w A.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning and talk about it.
You'll have every day waiting click yours up. The Breakfast
Club finished for y'all.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Done,
Every day Up Week picks.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Up The Breakfast Club finished for y'all. Done warning, everybody
is j n V.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Just hilarious. Chelamaine the guy.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
We are the Breakfast Club law the Roses here as well.
We got a special guest in the building from the
w W E Trick Williams.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's talk about it. Let's talk about what's going on, everybody.
I do a good man, blessed.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
South Carolina game cock wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, yes, from university, Sir.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I didn't know about the Hampton thing. That's true.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It is, it is, Wow, it is. I went to
Hampton my first two years. Okay, back to the crib.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Interested so you know him?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know he went to absolutely yeah, of course you
already know. Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
It's not fast Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Uh No, Man, I never been, but I did. I
got some seafood, yeah, I got.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So how do you get in the wrestler?
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Man?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
How did this this wrestling thing come about? Because you
started with football, So how did you get into wrestling?
Speaker 7 (00:57):
Right?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Man?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It was an accident.
Speaker 8 (00:58):
So, like you said, I started hamp Universe City, transferred
to South Carolina that had a brief stint with the
Philadelphia Eagles where I went to camp and then long
story short, I got cut from the Philadelphia Eagles and
trying to figure out what was next for my life.
I had an agent who actually got me trying to
give me some more trials and everything. Then got me
hooked up with the XFL. I think it was just
(01:19):
a blessing because I never played for the XFL. As
soon as they set my information there, WWE reached out
to me said, are you interested in coming in for
a tryout?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh so they reached out to you.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So did you have wrestling background or did you ever
do anything with wrestling?
Speaker 8 (01:31):
Never wrestled in my life. I was a fan, you know,
at three years old, I opened a can of whoop
ass watching the Stone Colch Steve Austin. Like I was
always a fan. I watched it, but I never thought
about actually wrestling, Like just didn't know. It's the opportunities.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So then you had to learn how to wrestle r
because it's not just one of those things you could
just go slap somebody just opened up a cann of
whoop passle when they reached out to you, was it
a training process? It was a program, what breakdown, what happened?
What got you into your first bout?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Exactly? They Brohnatorlando.
Speaker 8 (01:59):
I tried out and they said, Yo, you got charisma,
you got a good look and everything, but.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Try out if you never wrestled before.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I mean, that's a good question. DJ.
Speaker 8 (02:06):
Let me tell you so for twenty years I played football,
where if you're good at football, you stay on your feet,
very physical sport, a very physical sport. My first day
of becoming a WWE superstar, you learn how to fall, bump, cartwell,
flip all this other stuff. So it wasn't natural to me.
Like I wasn't a gymnast. I'm still not gymnasts. So
they didn't sign me. So I had to move to Philadelphia.
(02:27):
Back to Philadelphia, stayed with my uncle and I trained.
I wrestled COVID broke out. I stayed on the independent scene.
You know, you can think about something similar to comedy
or something like that. You know, before you make it
big and you know you got your own shows and
you're on wild'n Out and stuff like that, you know
you're on the indies and you make a name for yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So I had to do that first.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Wow, do you feel pressure to represent like black culture
and wrestling, or do you just show up and be
yourself and let let's let everything play out.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, man, I can't. I can't be anything else. Damn black,
you know what I mean. I can't change my skin,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
I'm raised how it was raised, and I feel like
the better I do in this field, the better it
is for you know, people who look like me, period.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But you know, this is who I am. I can't
change it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
How difficult it was it to learn wrestling and the
falling and the whatever wrestling is.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
How difficult was that?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It takes years?
Speaker 8 (03:19):
It takes years because you know, playing football is about
getting the job done, catching the touchdown, making the tackle,
et cetera. Wrestling's everything, you know. I mean, we grab microphones,
we tall trash. You know, we got to look good.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
We got to know our camera angles, We got to
feed to the cameras. We gotta do this, We gotta
do that. You got to be the ultimate showman to
be good at the craft.
Speaker 9 (03:39):
And a lot of people think that it's fake, you know,
obviously whatever, but like it's it's real, like y'all really
getting hurt.
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean my neck hurt right now. But
you know the way I got pictures like this. Okay,
yes there's a script attached to it. You know it's predetermined.
But you know, y'all got scripts right now in front
of your computer screen. If football, you know, but we do,
you know, we prepare.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
You know.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
If it's football, you got you know, a playbook, Basketball,
you got plays. The beauty is not in the script,
it's in the execution. And Trick Williams is the best executor.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
So that's why you said, I always wonder what's the
psychology behind getting ten thousand people to chance your name
because it might be a little scripted, but the crowd
reaction got to be real, right right.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
Right, And that's the beauty of it. Because some people
do their job so well, you know what I mean.
There's something about him, the way he walks out and
he just got that swab, or or something about her,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
They like the way she looks. It could be her smile,
it could be the way you know, the wind blow
that day, like you never know what it is. Some
people are just that good.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
At the craft and they whoop that trick when you're
coming out and like they having a party when you
walk out.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's a movement. Yeah, the whole movement with that.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, man, it was.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
It was a blessing, you know what I mean. I
started NXT where the crowd just adopted that. You know,
my name being Trick Williams, my birth name being Matric
you know, Trick was a nickname, so it just it fit.
And whooped that trick fit with Trick and it took.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Off that too. Yeah, trick she does, she does? When
did you talk to what she does too?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
When did you know it was gonna work?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Like?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
When was that time? He was like, oh, they really
catching on? Do you remember that match?
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Yeah, I would say, I would say when. So at NXT,
we're in front of a set audience in Orlando and
we barely leave the house, like four hundred five hundred
fans and they started chaing whoop that trick there, which
is cool.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It's like, but we're in the same crowd, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
You don't really know how the world feels about you.
Then we went all the way to California and in
front of five thousand and the whooped that trick. Chance
was crazy, and I won my first title. I'd be
dominating my stereo Raymond Stereo Son And that's when we
knew like, okay, this movement is something crazy and it
has a slow down.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Since does w W call you at that time? But like, hey,
look we gotta talk, we gotta get some things. But
they call you when when they start hearing it, Nah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Nah, That's not how Sean Michaels operate.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You know.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
Shoot, when you start succeeding, now you're in the high seat,
you know what I mean, It's like once you get
your first album, you know, and it hit you know,
now the pressure is on because now you got to
follow up. You got to be able to you know
what I mean, You got to meet that pressure of
everything that comes with that. So once the people get
behind you, that's when hard work really start.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You in the hot seat.
Speaker 9 (06:14):
How different is how different is the wrestler matric? I
mean you're metric from the wrestler trick Williams.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
It depends who you ask. Like people from high school,
they be like, oh, that's who he is, Like he
always been like that. But I just turn it up
when the red lights on. You know what I mean,
I talk mold trash. I mean, you don't walk around
life just pimp slapping people and talking trash.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know what I'm saying. It has to be a
reason for it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
But like you got to be able to feel the
true emotions on the inside somewhere to you know, make
it feel real when it's.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
When it camera.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Ke Okay high school. You really grew up right there, right.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
There in my family from the same Matthews you love country.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Yeah, you and your fiance last legend, both of you
guys made it to the main roster. And that's what
you're talking about. How like that was like a cheat
cod because y'all get in the travel of the world
and do all these things. So what's that been Like?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
It's been amazing. Man. You know, she with me all
the time.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
I say all the time all the time, so you know,
and you know it just it helps you feel a
little bit more supported, you know, when you're in these
foreign rooms, when you're dealing with people who are different
than yourself. You know what I'm saying, Like, I know,
my lady out with me, you know, regardless of how
I go, regardless you know I debut on SmackDown, I'm
good my lady, you know, she here, so we make
(07:29):
sure that we're confident and were prepared to go put
on the best show.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Anybody running into your house, that's the worst.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
And look man, and people say, like, oh, they be nervous.
They want to make sure that they partner does well
when they perform and everything. My fiance, she's six foot
you know what I'm saying, one, not five two hundred
like basketball, you know, MVP, you know, see Out of
Storm all that. So I don't be nervous for her.
I be nervous for everybody she in the ring with,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
She liked to fight. J don't want that. Look. I
respect Jade and you know she from you know, she
cool people, But there's only one lash.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Is it challenging working with you? Do you find any
challenges with it? I know y'all are supportive verts of
each other, but you know you're still together.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
I would take these challenges over the other challenges I gotcha. Yeah,
of not seeing each other because we never home, so
like if if she was at the crib but it
was doing something else, then it would be difficult.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
How did y'all meet in the business.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
Yeah, a lot of wrestlers date wrestlers. You know, that's
just how it is, like you date where you're at
you know, you know that's a long another story. I
know we got time for that, you know what I mean.
So all right, let's talk about it, okay. You know,
so you know we at the PC, that's what we
call where we trained, the Performance Center. And you know
it's just people from college, people from different backgrounds, people
(08:50):
from you know, what we call the indies. Like I
said before, football players, basketball players, all this sort. I'll
say ninety percent of people come in in a relationship.
Two months in, I'll say there's about five percent of
them still in that relationship, because that's just how the.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Business is like.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Once you in it, it's like a whole other world.
And if you're not in it, a lot of people
just don't understand, like what do you mean you got
to stay and trained with you know, women who barely
dress and everything, or why you know, guys don't never
got this shirt on. It's a lot for people, you know,
who are not in it. Long story short. You know,
I was, I was in a little relationship, but you
(09:28):
know me and last it was cool.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It was friends, and you know that didn't work.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Out.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
So I saw lash, you know, and people thought we
was talking different stuff like that. But now we were
just cool. It's just friends. I try to you know,
press some game on it, cut a promo nothing. I
was stumbling. I was stuttering all over the flax. Yeah,
and I'm a promo guy like I like to talk. Yeah,
and you know I went to talk to out.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You and me together.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
She wasn't with it at first though.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right now she friends on me, quit.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
The friend zone.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I mean she was like, now you're my homie free
and daped me up.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
How did you feel that moment?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But I felt, you know what I'm saying, it was
a friend zone like because you know she.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Here's the truth about the matter. You know, she wasn't either,
you know what I'm saying. So she did what she
had to do.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But you know, we never crossed that line then and that,
but like we just grew as friends and then one day.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Man, you know it is so how did you get
out the friend zone?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Man? Just being me, I had the baby steps once
you get the big toe in the rest of you know,
he was.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
How does that help you? Guys? Brands? Just because I
know you have your singler brands, but together because now
they're calling you like one of the w W e's
like power couples straight up.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, I mean that was never the goal, Like it
wasn't trying to be a power couple per se. You know,
I just rock with her.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
But it definitely helps, you know what I mean, Like
you have double the reason to be invested into both
of us now because like if you're a Trick.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Wins fan, you rot with last, she ro last you
brought with Trick and you know it just works like that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Do Y'll hit each other with wrestling moves around the
house just randomly like.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, man, she abusive. Damn she abusive? Man, Like I
need help.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
You wish you stayed a friend.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Uh you know the funny The funny thing is, you know,
like she like the strongest girl in thereb no ca
you know what I'm saying. Joke she no joke.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
But in the house she's just so oh help me,
you know what I mean? Oh no, we got a
lizard in the house. We stay in Florida.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You know what I mean. I hate lizard. Like, but
you did body slam with three hundred, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 7 (11:46):
But that means you put her in a really safe space. Yeah,
because she's very successful. And I watched you guys on
the Sports Bible to agree to disagree. I watched that
and I was I loved how you guys interact because
I can tell for her to be so successful, you're
so successful as well. Normally there's this like thing when
you're a successful woman where you have to always like
you're on guard and you're always protecting what you built.
She just be fully like, my man's here when when
(12:09):
you're you know what I mean. That's a great thing
to see.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
And I had to put my foot down. Sometimes you
got to body slamming and let her know, you know
what I mean safely.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
We don't know if this is I think you can
beat you though I in front.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Man, A lot of people think that.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Go up the coat and got on another coat.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Let me tell you somethingout in New York, like she
say you, Normally I don't got no shirt on. But
today I was prepared.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
There last night you're.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
From Soccerlina in Florida. This wasn't you get used to it?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Nah? Man, No, no, I don't play that now.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
In wrestling, you got to balance ego in storytelling, Right,
how do you stay confident without letting the character of
Trick Williams consumed?
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Really, I mean, honestly, I think just man, people around
me keeping me grounded. Like my mama, She'll let me
know if I'm tripping, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, before I cut a promo and I'm finished
say something on live TV, I always think about my mama.
I know she's watching. Shout to my mom. She had
surgery last night. But yeah, but the people around me
(13:13):
just keep me grounded, man, like they always you know
what I mean. You know, once I take off the shades,
the coat, the limon, pepper stepas. You know what I'm saying,
Once I take all that off, you know, last at
the crib, like take out the trash, you know what
I mean, Like, oh yeah, we take out the trash,
you know, just keeping it real.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Historically, right, I feel like wrestling hasn't always portrayed black
wrestlers with a lot of depth, right, Like do you
feel like this era is finally allowing black talent to
show personality behind the stairs, beyond the stereotypes, right.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I mean, first and first, I gotta say shout out
to Nick Cohn Triple Hs because man, they've allowed me
to be myself. Like all these promos I'm cutting, you know,
all these different things. It comes from my head and
they say, man, go be you, you know what I mean,
Go get yourself over like let's see, let's see who
you are, Let's see how it works. And it's been working,
you know what I mean. It's not just me. Like
(14:10):
three of us moved up from NXT together, Javon Evans, oh,
Befe me, all brothers and everybody's eating right now. And
that's probably you can't say any other time in the
history of WWE that a young black man is, you know,
coming to the business and got pushed like this. So
that's no shade to anybody who came before us, because
I'm grateful for you know, the Shelton Benjamin's, the Booker T's,
(14:31):
et cetera. But you know, they laid down the footwork
for us to get this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Now, wrestling is entertainment, but it's also a business as well.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
When did you realize the business and say, you know what,
I have to make myself a brand so I could
be seen and I could be heard.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
When did that come about?
Speaker 8 (14:45):
Yeah, I mean very early, because like I wasn't always
like you know, people's favorite, you know, people's pick. Like
I started off, I was like a hype man. I
would talk trash on somebody else's behalf, and I wanted matches.
I wanted the spotlight. I wanted that stuff. I was like, dang, man, like,
I need to make myself popping so I can get
on the show myself, you know what I mean. And
(15:06):
so I started doing my own ventures on social media,
you know what I mean, making little skits, you know,
making rap songs, I make dis tracks, you know what
I mean, on my opponents, doing whatever it tastes like,
Like I gotta get myself popping, and so I'm building
my own brand now.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
At the same time, I was reading about a possible
face turn that they're saying might happen with you and
explain to people because I had to teach myself last night.
It's where the villain goes to the good guy.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
Yeah, storyline, that's right, Like in storytelling period, there's a
good guy bad guy, you know, one on one for storytelling,
he gets more complex. But you know the same thing
that we're doing wrestling, and right now I'm supposed to
be what we call it hell a bad guy. But
you know what I mean, I'm one of those heels
that people tend to like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Everybody loves to heal.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Stone Cold was a hell turn into a you know ball.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Okay, person who don't really watch y'all. I always know
there's a good guy, bad guy, but I didn't know
that the terms of it.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
The rock was a hill Hollywood rock, you know, and
see me personally, I like being the bad guy because
when you're the bad guy, you got more freedom to
be yourself, you know, when you live in this little
box when you're a good guy, like.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Hey, how you doing kids? Hey, let me sign this
for you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (16:17):
That's not real life. I feel more like a politician,
you know what I mean, as a good guy, as
a hell.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I ain't worried about.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Pleasetograph, ain't.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I mean, I still might sign, but you know what
I mean.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
So it's actually that is going. That's the thing, because
it's reported, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh man, don't believe nothing you see on y'all know
online is online.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
It was reported that the face turn is happening, that
you're going to go from the bad guy to the
good guy.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Man, Man, don't believe Twitter. Now, Twitter, they say what
they want to say.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
So you're still the bad guy right now.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm always the bad guy, okay.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
And that's why you're saying, don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Don't believe it.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I mean, but it doesn't matter because at this point
I just got to stay trick Williams, you know what
I mean. That's what's working. Good guy, bad guy. I
got taught my trash. I gotta look good that, I
gotta wear a coat underneath my coat, none of that.
I ain't gonna have no shirt on. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's crazy, I'm thinking about it. I don't think there's
a good guy ever really liked.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
I always liked the bad guy, even like you know
what I'm saying, Like I like when Hoklgan became Hollywood Halla.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
To me, he's like a heel too, I guess, I
mean he did he turned to a good guy heroist.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Like yeah, Seena was a good guy pretty much a
majority of his career until like this last little running
he turned back.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I like Sting when he was jumping out the raptors,
you know, dressed in all black guy but he would,
but we didn't know for so long what he was
when he went to the crow Era.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
I to me personally, I don't think it even mattered.
Good guy bad guy. People like what they like, right period,
you know what I mean. That's how I look at it,
Like good guy bad I don't really care, Like I
just wanted to be good and entertaining.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
That's all I care.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
When I looked at it, I was like, Okay, this
just means they know that the star is rising, so
they're trying to make sure that they like put around
you whatever you need, because I mean, you're already huge
in it, but they see it getting bigger because everyone
likes you.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You're likable.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Yeah yeah, I mean it is a compliment. So yeah,
I say, I just wanted to be good. I don't
really care.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You said you used to make distracts. You do music,
You're into music.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I do music, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Like, I ain't gonna say like, oh, I'm hard down
trying to be a rapper, but you know I'm musically talented.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah, that you're doing your free.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Time something I do in my free time.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Do you make your own. You still make the musical
when you were a hype man.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, yeah, I still make music. I still got some
projects I'm waiting to leak out, but you know, waiting
for the right time.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And is that heavy jealousy in wrestling? Because I look
at it like there's but so many.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Wrestlers that can make it to that spotlight, right, so
it got to be wrestless hating on each other, got
to be heavy jealousy.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
It's not like football, with.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Is a bunch of teams, bunch of positions, like wrestling
is very small, right, Do you deal with a lot
of jealousy and how to handle it all the time?
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I think I think that's in every field, but in wrestling,
you know specifically, Like I'm new to the game of wrestling,
you know what I mean. I play football for twin
the years. I've been wrestling for five six years. So
to somebody who's been wrestling for fifteen years, they look
at me like, you know, why is he in the
top spot?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You know, I'm a rookie, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (19:11):
If he wasn't six foot five and two hundred and
fifty pounds and had abs and had the good hair
and chains and talk so much trash, then he wouldn't
be that good.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That's a lot of heat like everybody else.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
But like that's that's the game of wrestling, you know,
point blank period. So man, you know how that is.
You just you shove that off.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
But anybody ever try to hurt you in a ring
behind it?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I hope not, because I mean because at that point
you got to defend yourself.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Has that happened, to know what I'm saying, Has it happened?
Has anybody ever.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Tried to I don't.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I don't think off script and really like try to
hurt you.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't think it's pure malicious intent.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
There's some people who are just thrown off in light
violence and if they do something like that, they expect
for you to do the same thing back to them.
But you know, somebody is saying, I don't like trick,
and I'm gonna try to punch him in the face
as hard as I can.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
What's the word seeing happened to you in the in
the ring that wasn't playing?
Speaker 8 (20:04):
I tell you, man, I ran straight into a barricade
and I got six stitches right here. It's bleeding on TV,
and I take that back I was climbing the cage
a match. I wasn't even in mind you. I was
still hype man, and uh dude just hit me with
a chair like through through the gate and kind of
sliced me open right here. You know, a brutal match
called war games when you know weapons are allowed, but
(20:27):
you know, stuff happens.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
You know, he was really trying to get in.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, right, you know those stunt doubles. You gotta do.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Whatever you say, hype man, break that down what a
hype man is because you said you wasn't that wasn't
your match, so you just was in the back.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Of like I'm coming, you know, like like like like
come on, come on, what you want me to do this?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Dang man?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But back, Explain to people what a hype man is.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What you want me to do? Man, Iris.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Look at one another.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Trip.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Explain what a hype man is for people.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
That don't best time I've ever heard of a hype
man in wrestling.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Yeah, like you know Buster rounds, you know Smith, you
know what I mean, Like, you know, Buster is the
main attraction, you know, And I was a guy making
sure that, hey, my guy wins at all times. I'm
doing everything in my power to make sure that they
look like a million bucks. Gotcha, And I did it well.
But you know that was the fun part, Like you
can build a rapport with the audience, you know, you
get comfortable in these different settings and scenarios. Now I'm
(21:41):
on the microphone, I'm doing intros and all this different stuff.
I'm getting better and leveling up, you know on somebody
else's behalf, you know, just growing behind the scenes, you know,
I mean, just working on my craft until you know,
I became the guy.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Do you pick that because it's like somebody like just
random do like I'm gonna be tricks hype man to
just start.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Nah.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Nah, it's not like that. Like a lot of people
who made decisions who you know, kind of put you
in position. But what the problem was, like I was
new into wrestling, so you can't just walk in and
be good, you know what I mean. It's like any
other craft. You gotta take years and years and years
to brush up on your move set and being a performer.
And I needed those reps in time to develop.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
How different is next from w W?
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Yeah, so I would say NXT is like deaf comedy
jam back in the day where you know what I mean,
it wasn't like the mainstream but had that good, gritty,
underground feel, you know what I mean, as opposed to
like you know, the big specials and everything like that,
the Kings of Comedy that's not down or raw, you
know what I mean, But death comedy jam that's how
we feel. You know, it's more intimate. It's more raw,
(22:43):
like people hungry. I would say, like college sports, but
they getting paid now, so is at the.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Same level of resources and everything else?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Yeah, same performance center with based right there in Orlando.
People hungry, man like all different backgrounds like martial artists,
you know, basketball, football, hockey, table tennis, you know, indies
like everybody who's trying to break into the business and
blow up. You know, they got to come through NXT
more times than not all Sometimes I look at it
(23:11):
like they just had to combine last week like man, like,
you know, I feel like there's some untapped potential out there,
but i feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be,
so I'm cool with it.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Is more Is it more rules at WWE compared to NXC,
Like you'all could get away with more at next Well, NXT.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
I would say, now it's way more like, way more
strict at NXT because you're not as polished, so they
want to make sure that you don't do nothing crazy
or stupid on TV. At NXT, like people been in
the business three minutes, you know what I mean, And
they don't live television, so you know, there's more producing,
there's more making sure that people are prepared for TV.
(23:50):
By the time you get the smack down a row.
It's literally your.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Own brand, Like go do what you gotta do to
make it work under the confide of what they give you. Permission,
of course, is still lucrative. Oh yeah, for sure. The show.
The show like definitely worth the switch from football to wrestling.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Would you rather be a Hall of Fame wide receiver
or Hall of Fame in wrestling?
Speaker 8 (24:13):
I say this, what I love about wrestling being a
superstar is the fact I am a superstar. I took
the hymet off and people know me in different countries. Man,
I go to Jamaica on vacation. You know they whooped
that trick in Patois, you know what I mean. I
go to Mexico and Saudi Arabia. Man, they don't speak English.
They carn'ing whoop that trick. Football is a beautiful sport.
(24:35):
I played it for twenty years, but it's very American,
you know what I mean. Like wrestling, you good around
the world. So it's just a whole different feeling, not
even though what's out there now you live in that
matrix or whatever you're doing. But you know, once you
branch out, you'd be like whoa, Like wrestling is huge.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I know WrestleMania forty two. WrestleMania forty two is happening
in April. How does wrestle Mania feel because it always
to me on the outside looking in, always look at
that as wrestling super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
It is, Yeah, it is super Bowl. It's right back
in Las Vegas again this year. Las Vegas is full
of shows, entertainment, magic shows. But we are the show
to come and see the eighteenth and the nineteenth of April,
and your boys gonna have a match.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I guarantee you is a pressure. It's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
Like you said, it's a super Bowl, and like that's
what everybody, that's what it's all about, you know what
I mean? Like you want to main event WrestleMania, you
want to have a match on the biggest stage of
them all. Sixty thousand fans Night one, sixty thousand fans
Night two, one hundred and twenty thousand different people. They
are chanting your name, going crazy like that's what it's
all about. The biggest lights possible, the biggest production, all
(25:35):
the stars come out. It's a good feeling. Yeah, man,
it's about to go down.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Who is your ideal opponent for WrestleMania forty two?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Whoever wanted?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Man?
Speaker 8 (25:45):
You know, I ain't trying to brag, but you know
what I'm saying, Like, Trick is the hottest new talent
on the roster right now. So I mean, anybody who's
trying to get a little jump back into they deal they.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Want to take on Trick Williams for WrestleMania.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Absolutely, we appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Trick Williams, Good luck.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
WrestleMania goes down to eight.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Qu Was your name supposed to be Matric or was
it supposed to be something else, like Matrix or something.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
My name is Matric, man, my dad's name is Patrick,
my mom named Monica, And you know how we do.
You know what I'm saying, You know how it goes?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, Yeah, Trick Mandree Belt matric Andre. My mom's name is.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Rosa.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah doing that, you know, were creative like that.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
That's crazy because I thought you was a little Spanish
and so, yeah, Lauren Lrollo, I didn't know my mom
mom is Patrick?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
His mom, I mean, his dad is Patrick, his mom's mom.
It's the same thing. Black people just love putting names together.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, okay, but there you have it. It's Trick Williams
from the w w A.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning and talk about it.
You'll have every day waiting click yours up. The Breakfast
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