March 11, 2026 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every day a week ago.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Click your glass up the Breakfast Club. I'm finish for y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Done morning.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Everybody's d j n V. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. Long the ruses here as well.
We got some special guests in the buildings, icons juvenile
and many fresh back at it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
How you feeling?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Cooling?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Cooling?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Trying to make y'all half.
Speaker 6 (00:27):
You're making it, man, because I know we're here to
talk about the steal four hundred podcasts.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yes, then or they send us a copy of that damn.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Boiling point man, Lord have murder even making some magor
appropriate music, man, because then the age of forty seven,
one of my favorite things to do is something dooze off.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Not something.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
The album is dope, Thank you the album. I'm glad
y'all listen to what I did the copy of it.
But and y'all know it's a couple of tracks that
ain't on that right. So it's the rob full nine
y'all popping in here, and y'all hear the Young Boy record,
but we didn't even hit y ain't hear the Wayne
record either. I got two albums right, So I'm releasing
(01:16):
one now and I'm gonna wait a few months and
release the second. So that's what the thing. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We noticed the one with Megan that was released B
B B. Megan is not on the album.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
She's on the album. I think they sent y'all. Yeah,
she's on the album. I think they sent for a copy.
But it's all good. I don't even know if the
all of y'all got right, because I think guys said
the first song was with BG, and I was like, no,
it ain't the first song.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
The first song I think is Beverly.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, that's not the first song.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That j Beverley, And then it's dropped the location and
pay me back and yeah, yeah, go ahead and say it, bro,
pay me back.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Let me let me.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I've been singing that song on stage and by the
time I get to the second hook, all the women
are singing and I tell them, y'all, so.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That time you got BG and.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Bird Man in their bag on this project too, Like
what do you What is it about you that seems
to bring out the best in them?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But do y'all just bring out the best in each other.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I'm competitive, you know, if you want to save me.
I always always have been me, and man, I don't
know if people know me and this dude been one
in the studio from day one. I'm just competitive. I
walk in the studio and say I'm about to I'm
about to bust your ass. You better be ready. And uh,
they when we do songs together, they know that's how
I feel, so they're gonna be competitive with me.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What got you to this point where? I know a
lot of times when the artists get a little older,
they're scared to put out music because they're scared that
how will be received, right because everything is a stream,
everything is a number. But here it looked like you
ain't give about none of that.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You just put on.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I really focused on my nine nine and my two thousands. Really,
you know, I don't. I don't want to chase a fan.
I just want to do good music and hopefully people
accept it and like it. But I'm really not trying
to chase a fan. I'm doing this for me and
my people, and that's it.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Even the way you was rolling out some of the
new music, like you would drop the videos on your
Instagram and then that would go crazy, so we're all like, well,
where is it.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Where is it like?
Speaker 7 (03:20):
But you dropping it like like if you said a
lot of times people hesitate you just putting it out
there like I know you're gonna want this here boom,
and they do.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah. And you know what is the funny part is
when I put that first date out that I was
going to release in October, people got mad at me
when I put the album out. So I'm glad it's
coming out, and it's coming out on my birthday, So
we're really gonna cut up timeless y'all.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
Both of y'all sound like even your son every every.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
It's not like you y'all.
Speaker 9 (03:50):
Ever stepped out of music or took a hiatus or whatever.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
Like you sound like you ain't never stop. I love it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I really never stopped. But the truth is just kind
of scared of get in the studio, listening to everything
else that's going on. I just was like, damn, I
don't know if I could. I don't know if I
could compete. But then I had to sit back and
have it, have that that that reality check that tells me, nah, bro,
you gotta you gotta make music for you and your fans.
You don't have to appeal to nobody else.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
It was crazy because the production of it sounds like,
I mean, you weren't afraid of that either, like even
on the Hot Boys Summer and like the sample that
you used there with the da bar sample. Yeah, it
doesn't sound like you were afraid to get back in
the studio or worried about competing at all.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
It's like you knew exactly what you wanted to kind
of get into.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Shout out to my man C Smith too for making
that track. I really was scared. Who I'm not getting
no money off this one. But yeah, the album just
came together. Many many did so much, so many great
things outside of him, just you know, producing the tracks,
the ideas, our ideas was flowing together to make this
project what it is.
Speaker 10 (04:54):
What about you, man, I know you're not scared of
getting the student Hell no, I mean I'm trying to
bring fun back, bro. You know in our era was fun,
you know, and you gotta you know, it resonate When
the song sound like that, people know the song is like,
oh well, this is really his personality. This is in
somewhere we got too cool to have fun, you know.
So when when I do it, I'm going head, I'm
(05:16):
gonna have fun. You know, it's gonna be some vodka
and some juice. And I'm like, turn on the mic,
and you know, and he already. What's cool about Juvie
is he knows what I'm gonna do, like you know,
and he ain't trying to say change.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
He's like, he's like, bro, I know you're gonna.
Speaker 10 (05:31):
Say some crazy ass or whatever, you know, And and
I'm like, that is the way I approach a song,
and it resonates with our fans. I think what he
found out what you know, Like he didn't figure out
by us being on tour. When me and him went
on tour, we got close to the fans and we
and we figured out, like, y'all really like this that
(05:52):
we do. Y'all don't want the new version of us.
You know what I'm saying, y'all don't need the new
version of us. They just like, do what you doing?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
We all right with.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We're gonna bring dancing back. Is what you bring it up?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Dance specifically shaking your ass. Yes, I know I can't.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
When you're getting the studio today many are you chasing
nostalgia or are you trying to create a new sound?
Speaker 10 (06:21):
You know, I had a long time of doing that,
trying to say, well, you know, this is what this
sound like or whatever, and I'm like, this is a
headache trying to figure out something that you already know.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
How to do, you know.
Speaker 10 (06:34):
So I just had that moment of like, let me
step back and and real real. I stopped listening to
just new you know what I'm saying, because it's it's
nothing against it, but that that's that's their.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Error, that belongs to them. And I'm like, you know what,
let me go back to my error.
Speaker 10 (06:50):
Let me listen to some of it that I love,
like a ball, m J G or whatever, like you know.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And that right.
Speaker 10 (06:56):
There was like, okay, this this is still the same music, chords,
same format. And the reason why we like them songs
like that so much because they're easy, you know, and
and and we we've been using the same patterns for forever.
We already know them. They em better than us. It's
like hearing Marvin Gay, you know, and you don't even
know why it's timeless, why you like because it's simple
and it's it's it's the same that's been used in
(07:18):
music for forever and forever.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I wanted to somebody in this room. I wanted to
know Fuego and said, is Fueg?
Speaker 7 (07:26):
What did you I said, I said, I it's flip on,
like a Latin flip on.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Get it from my mama.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Nah, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
But she asked that question. I'm liked. Man, it's like
it's the hot boys. They've been using references the fire
for I.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
Was trying to figure out because there was on the
other songs. I was trying to figure out, like if
you like, use one of your older songs because I
thought I heard like some.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Of the things.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Like she figured out, it was like so many ways
we fire, so many different ways. We got to, you know,
be innovative, and that was that was my way of
doing it.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
I made them put the song on the other room
and then we was playing it together. I'm like, I
know I hear this, but I can't how.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Many how many fire references could.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I mean, I'll try it for that song.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Training.
Speaker 10 (08:26):
Man, they're talking about shooting the video for You went
against the DJ and you told him you hear She
came just quiet.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It was quiet. Did you have and I'm do.
Speaker 8 (08:36):
I hear another song in your song?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Got so mad.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's like so mad, it's just something, you know what?
Speaker 7 (08:45):
She young always shut up. He always because I'm thirty four.
He always talked to me like I don't have any
experience with old music. Like my experience is a little
younger than yours.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Your mama, your mama was listening to it, probably your parents,
right from your mom. That's where she got it from.
You let her live.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
That's what I was saying back to the ancestors every
time I say something.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
But even in that album is called Boiling Point.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Yeah, right, so what that's an intense title when that
feeds into the fire references to it?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Does?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
That's all it is. It's really like four hundred degrees
twoenty twenty six basically.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But do you chase those records?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
The back of the ass up records?
Speaker 10 (09:27):
And do you chase those No? No, I feel like touches.
When somebody tell me make one of them, I'm like,
I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Somebody call you say make me one of them.
Speaker 10 (09:37):
There's been so many artists that said that. You know
what I'm saying, like can you make me? I'm like
I can't that that ain't gonna happen again. That was
something special about that moment that day, how it went down,
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You can't tell us how it went down, beefing.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Basically, he kept changing. The first of all, I was rapping,
I wasn't doing it. Yeah, the and doing none of that.
He kept changing. He see, his thing was I can't
beat him out. So I felt like I was killing
him on the first On the first beat, I was
killing I was like, damn, man. So when I got
back to the studio, he had to change the beat.
It's the first time. I'm like, damn. So I changed
(10:16):
the lyrics again. I got him again. I'm like, I
got his ass again. So we come back, we get
the Nashville out of the album, gotta get turned in
the next day, they're like, bro, you got two days.
You got one day to record two songs. I'm like, well, damn,
what songs I gotta record? He said, man, we gotta
do huh. And you said you want to hear you
heard back of the ass up again? I said, nah,
(10:36):
so man, they played it to me, so now they
got them even changed the whole beat again. I said,
I go in the room. Now. He tell him you
can't change nothing, saying you ain't changing nothing. So I
walk out the room, I get him my minding mood,
and I go straight to slump, say, slim brother, he
done did it again. Bro y'all got a lead to
at least let me do something else. Let me take
(10:58):
a chance at recording another the song, so let me
get in there. That's how we got what we got.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
So it wasn't always the violin in the beginning.
Speaker 10 (11:09):
Yeah, because I was just like this, you know, like
sometimes you know one of them that's gonna be a hit.
Just the DJ and me knew that this song was
gonna be a hit. I was like, this one is
gonna be a hit. And I was like the intro
was the setup, like, you know, because because it was
still the era of like whatever you're doing, you know,
you got time to get to the to the dance floor.
I was like, you know what, this should need a intro.
(11:30):
It needs like a little setup. When it comes down,
it's gonna be phenomenal, you know. And and you got
to think when you're telling somebody that they don't get it,
they're like, why you did that long assh it in
the beginning, And I'm like, I got this.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I know what all know.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
In the clubs, they extended even longer.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
The right right then, That's why I got a whole
joke in my set about it, and I come out
to back that ass up.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
I go off the back that ass up. I got
a joke about it. I don't I don't play about
that song anthem of all time.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And I wanted to do when I saw something.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
I don't know if it was on the still point
the podcast, you said everybody hated.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
The song man.
Speaker 10 (12:05):
Well, no, Juve didn't see it, as you know, because
he didn't want to be known as a bounce rapper,
because you know, he really really he was like, and
I'm like, bro, this one, I promise you, this one
is gonna be one up.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Okay, I'm gonna give you example. He wanted that to
be the first single, and I was totally against that.
I'm like, bro, I've been doing bounce music my whole life.
I come over here to get away from it. I
don't mind doing one or two songs, but you gotta
let me. I want to let the world know I
could really rap, you know what I'm saying, And I
want to not just be a normal rap. I want
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to push the needle a little bit. And I felt
like how I was doing that was gonna do that
for me. And I was right. I was right because
I mean my dog jay Z jumps on the remix.
So I feel like I did do what I do
my thing. But guess what it didn't do. It didn't
send people to the record stores. I mean, so I
wasn't sell him because of that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So let me ask you to the end of back
that ass up right driving Where did that come from?
Because not every verse and had it with Wayne Wayne
on it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So you waited and yeah, Wayne waited in the corner.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Wayne knew it as well that just like.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Some dude I got something.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I was like, go ahead, saying, I said, that's.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Way was he can see it in the course would happened?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
He was he was gonna be.
Speaker 10 (13:23):
He meant he was gonna be on this ship, like
you know what I'm saying. And he was just like, well,
when can I do something? I was like, go ahead, bro,
do the n.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Not gonna went on the fade out. Let's you gonna
go on the verse?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
He really wanted a verse. It was too loud. It
was it was our show.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
When you all do the podcast, How does it feel
talking to people that you know, your lives are more interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I rather you and man talking.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Shout out to everybody have been on my podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
We want our.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Podcasts to keep going. Podcasts, well, it was a little
bit of both of us and Dave too, you know,
but U Manny was was the first one with the title.
You know, I was lost with the title. You know,
I'm never good with.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Making you know, And people were like, well, what you know?
Speaker 10 (14:24):
It came from still Fly and you know, four hundred degrees,
which is to me, one of the most popular songs,
like from the big timers.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
To me, it's still Fly.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
So I was just like, why not incorporate something that's
both of us or whatever, like, you know, and and
it represents both of us.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So that's where the name came from.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
But our podcast is about fun, so we don't get
on that. We don't want people even coming over there
with expresses or your beefs. We try our best to
combat that. We want to get on there and just
have fun, talk about the funny things in your life,
talk about things that people don't know about you. A
lot of cats got got some humor going on inside
that they don't let people. Well, no, they never come out,
they shell. So that's what we try to do on
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our show.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Is the album boiling point is?
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Is it about proving something or is it more about
just documenting what y'all mind is today?
Speaker 5 (15:10):
It's more like satisfying my fans and really feeding the
hunger of myself and seeing if I could really do it.
It's like an old cat saying I still got it.
I still got y'all said, I like, yeah, that's what
I need. But it's pretty much me man, just you know,
letting letting my fans know where I'm mad in life.
I'm happy, you know, simple as that, I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
How do you Megan get up on that record for
the BBB?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Well, people reached out to me. But like she was
talking about the snippets, I put a snippet out riding
riding in the car with just the one version the
hook playing, and it went crazy and the first the
first comments, all the comments was Megan needs to be
on this. I mean with ninety percent of the comments,
Megan needs to be on this making it. So my
thing was okay, y'all go tell her. And they started
(15:52):
going on page telling us and they reached out to it,
reached out for the song.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
So what's happening with the date, because wasn't it like
with that song specifically, it was like supposed to up
at one point you and megans for her verse and
then you changed the day and it was upset.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I didn't have nothing to do with that. Only thing
I changed the data on is the album release. And
they was said about the album releasing, but we shocked
them with that because they kept asking for it. But
I never told him it was happening until like two
days before it came out.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Who's the young lady that was on it before Megan.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Her name is Genesis to God and she's cutting up
on I didn't take off the album for the record too,
because that's one of my son's friends and she did
a great job.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
She delivered it.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So do you go to your son more now like something?
Speaker 11 (16:34):
Really?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I go to my kids for a lot. My daughter
runs my social media, so she does.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
A good job because it reaches outside of ye.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
She she she is stuck on algorithms. I don't even
understand it.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
But it is just one of the people that you
talked to when you said at first she was feeling
scared like about getting in the studio making new music
or whatever because of everything that's out now, did you
talk to him about it?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
So I'm with my baby boy, my youngest boy, almost
every day of the week because he's a school teacher
once house. I'm just an aggravating parent. I'm always his
house and my oldest son, our young juve. He's the
one that's always like telling me, Pops, you should do this,
you should do this, try this. So you know, it's
kind of like I'm the kid again, you know, like
(17:16):
they say twice a child, twice a kid. It's kind
of like they parenting me a little bit. And I
just I just listen.
Speaker 10 (17:22):
I don't ask you, man, do you think that culture
is ready to respect it's elders the same way genres
like jazz.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Or blues did or rock and roll?
Speaker 10 (17:31):
I think we gotta knock down walls, bro Like, it's
a rebirth of music for me, and it's and the
cool thing is that it's now or never. You know,
we got a lot of I won't call him old school,
I'm gonna say seasoned artists. That's like they making good music,
great albums, and it's and you're seeing the shift. You're
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seeing people like Oh, I really like this, Like, you know,
it's got substance, it's got movement to it.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So I think we gotta knock down doors.
Speaker 10 (17:59):
You know, we can't accept no more when somebody does
an interview and they say, I don't really rap, I
just do this. Well move out the way and let
somebody who do it do it, you know, because because
you got a lot of artists that do that, that
say like, this ain't really my thing, you know, And
I'm like, well, this this is really my thing.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
This is my bread and butter, you know.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
And I think we got to knock down doors sometimes
and shake things up.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, you think for me, I don't. I try not
to be so critical of the young cast because I
was that cat and a lot of the older cast
was calling what I did one rap. They said that
ain't rapping. I'm like, well, damn, bro, I'm taking care
of my family. My records is selling. I'm selling more
records than you, and I'm doing good. I'm doing good
(18:42):
in my life, So who cares if it's rapping or not?
Like if my fans, the fans see me a certain way,
I don't even care what another artist thing about. So
us as so now, me being that older cat, I
always stick my hand out to him. I always reach
my arm out to him, and I always try to
show him love. And I'm never gonna say nothing negative
about him, because if how do you want to see him?
(19:04):
You want to see him with a mic or you
want to see him with that tool in his hand, right,
you know? So so I try to I try to
think like that and try to have an open mind
about it, because we don't own this, and I don't
see no other genre of music criticizing the youngsters. I
don't see country doing that. I don't see r being
I don't see nobody else doing that. So I try
to tell my cast, and the cast is old before me, like,
(19:25):
we don't own it, bro, we don't have ownership. We
don't have a union or something like that. That that
that that predicts how this, how this goes. So there's
no rules, So stop trying to make a rule.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Think we bridge that gap?
Speaker 10 (19:41):
How do you think we get this this younger generation
to respect you know what came before them?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Just keep making dope music like you see what t
I doing right now with the with to let them
no record like dope records of don't records that they transcend,
you know, age like you got the BBB joint right now,
people loving the record. Yeah, I just think making no
music because I was talking about that earlier. With the
younger generation, I feel like because of social media, they
don't have they don't get the real world experience, Yeah,
(20:10):
to still be able to write well into their forties fifties.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
If yeah, you got good odd y'all do a really
good job about talking about this SEP stuff on the podcast.
I remember it was a clip with David Banner that
went viral and he was talking about how y'all were
trying to survive the industry at one point. So y'all
didn't really get the chance to pass down the tools
because you were surviving it. And the young generation of
music needs that. And when I I mean, I watched
your show, but when I saw that, I'm like, this
is why y'all podcast is going to be so gold
(20:34):
because of those type of conversations, because now y'all in
a space where y'all could do it, and that preserves
it too.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah. I think the good thing about it is it's
not about us, right, It's about the person that comes
on and to the younger generation. I feel like I
feel like I'm a part of their generation. Also, I
mean I do music with the younger cats. Also FO
two Doug is one of my friend's son. Me and
Ron full nine just did an album together, so you know,
and all the album album. So when I run and
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then too young cats, I don't never treat them like that.
I don't never say I don't care. I got my opinion.
Whatever my personal opinion is of them, I keep it
to myself because I was taught if you ain't got
nothing good to say, I don't say nothing at all.
You ain't got to spend a night with that person,
you ain't got to be with them twenty four seven.
So that's how I do. I try to spread the
love and hopefully these cats will start seeing what I'm
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doing and follow suit.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
How that I with Rob will not come about just that.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
And it's kind of crazy he say, Oh, you don't
like you don't. You don't A lot of the old
old g s don't treat us the way you do.
And it kind of like he felt like you relate
to me better than everybody else.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
What's one thing that y'all learned that you passed down
now that you didn't realize when you were trying to
survive the industry be out of yall to live in
and y'all.
Speaker 10 (21:44):
Are a statement that you said. You know, it's a
lot of artists I don't know. I don't know what
it is. They don't have the guts to say. The
reason why I couldn't help you because I was fucked
up myself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I was.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
I was fighting fills, you know, I was trying to
figure out my paperwork. I was trying to figure out
cross my t's and dot my eyes like you know.
So I couldn't tell you how to do it when
I didn't know how to do it, you know, and
it took a while, you know, to learn, like, Okay,
I can't do homeboy business. I gotta really do the
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lawyers got to show up. We can't just shake hands
on it no more. And if you if you say
it can't happen that way, then we can't do it,
you know, because it's it's how how can I tell
the next generation how to survive this when I'm still
doing it, you know, in a in a crazy ass manner,
when I'm just I'm trusting somebody who I'm like, nah, nah.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
It's crazy. You know when you look we had Teddy
Rally up here, and when Teddy Rally you talk about
all of his city's produced, he said, we had like
Salt and Pepper Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that
put out all these records that say, to this day
their paperwork a't right. You start understanding like, damn, we
gotta pass down what we know because if not, we're
gonna be in the same situation over and over again.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
And we look at I look at it like a
sacrifice man, because you know, in the beginning, we didn't
have the means that the artists got. Right now, we
like these artists surround themselves with some of the best
lawyers in the best everything. Well, we didn't have those advantages.
All those advantages was at the record companies. They had
all the best lawyers and the best representation. So now
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when when when the new catch come around and they
they they do their business the way they do it,
we see it and we're like, god, damn, oh, I
wish we had the opportunities that they got. If we
had social media, even though you know it could be
negative in its own way. But I think if we
had social media in our era, when the records was
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the record sales was through the damn roof, like ninety eight,
ninety nine, ninety seven, we would we would have way
more money, way more revenue than we have.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It was a lot different, though, Like you said, you
had to be intentional to go buy an album, right,
it wasn't You couldn't buy it online. You had to
go to a record store. You had to go to
a CD spot. You had to go buy it, and
that whether it was rain, sleet, snow hot, you went
to go buy that album.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And if it was a real music hege, you ain't
want to hear from your pot and or your friend.
You had to have a first.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, fail, you made you better.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
Fail, you made you better in our era because you
was just like, I can't fall on my face, and
y'all just look at me and laugh. I'll be back,
and when I come back, it's gonna be bigger and
better next time I come back, you know. And then
now it just seem like, you know, when shit happens,
how do you dust yourself off? How do you get
back out there? You got to do some shock value
shit or some crazy ship instead of just hey, dust
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yourself off and get back out.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
You know what, though, in the days of social media,
it's so hard once you get once you go down,
to build yourself back up.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I don't know why, because the narrative. The narrative sticks
with you on social media.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
So once you become a joke on social media, it
stays there for a long time. You could be winning
in real life, on social media, they'll still act like
you lose it big feel that you was here about
the business. It's interesting to hear y'all say that, because
I always felt like cash money they should told us
how to do business.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
No, we did. I'm gonna say we did business far
as record company business in the beginning for us as artists.
As the artist, we didn't have our ship together. And
I'm not playing the finger at them, because we had
our ship together, none of some of the things would
have never happened. But yeah, as far as cash money, breaking,
kicking down or breaking barriers to deal for thirty million dollars,
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that definitely broke barriers.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And I was asked, what were your biggest failures? Do
you I remember your biggest failures in the industry? One
thing that you're mad. It looked like, oh, maybe I
shouldn't have did this record, or I shouldn't have did this.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
One of my biggest failures in the music industry. If
I want to say a record, a record, probably uh
the floor rid of record, and it wasn't mine. Let
me say it was. It was. It was Paul Wall's record.
But Mike Caroon told me multiple times, Man, you should
keep this record. You should cake Paul won On want
it and you're killing it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
You should keep yes record too.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
No, it was never never Nelly record. So so, uh,
Paul Wall didn't want it. I'm like, they got to
take the apple bottom jeans part off of New Orleans.
We don't. I say, they got to take that part off.
So let's see if t pag can take it off.
T like, nah, I ain't changing it. It's staying like that.
So then Mike brings up floor Rider. I got a
new cat floor Rider Da Da da. I'm like, well, shit,
(26:16):
let him have it. I can. If he's not gonna
change it, let him have it. But that was a fumble.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
They would have been the same record for you though.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Yeah, I mean had the same hook on it. You
don't think the hook.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
So I would say, not speak in my mind, you know,
you know, because it was a lot of shit. I
let just go, you know, because wanting to stay neutral,
not wanting to see the argument, and not wanting to
see the fight, like you know what I'm saying. And
I feel like, because if I would have spoke my mind,
I think shit would have turned out different. But I
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also believe that there's something like God got a plan
for you. Sometimes you gotta walk that walk, like you know,
and and everything happened for a reason. But but I
would say one of the biggest regrets was not you know,
speaking my mind a lot of times on how I
really felt about situations.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Would you say, used to argue in the studio, Yeah, we.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
Did, But there was projects that I was like, we
shouldn't do this right now at the time, it shouldn't
have been like it, Like for instance, for a hundred degrees,
I wasn't ready to let that album go. I knew
there was other singles on it, you know what I'm saying.
And I and I and I agreed to like they
like we gotta work on Julie's new album. I'm like, no,
we don't we we we we we haven't scratched the
surface with this. We're not finished, you know what I'm saying.
(27:28):
Where I'm like, shit, I'm like, I know there's other
songs in here.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You gotta think for degrees. Was never a single.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Man oh man, put your sets up, run for it. Yeah, man,
we could have it was it was more that.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
Was there was times where like just just a simple format,
you know where the concept of like the beginning of
this was like we we we wanted to do things
that were obtainable to the hood and people like So
that's why when we first started doing this, it was
PT Cruises and Chrysler three hundred, remember, because we knew
you could afford that ship, you know what I'm saying,
(28:06):
And everybody was purpose yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
But then Egos got it's Lamborghini time, It's D D
D D. And my concept was always it's more Honda
cards than Lamborghinis.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Stick with the Honda cards and we're gonna want you know.
And I'm like, dude, you changing from you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (28:27):
But I was like, okay, I'm gonna go with the floor,
you know.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Yeah, you to so yeah, all of audd moments.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
But now when you think about it, go back to
those videos. You remember seeing the PT cruises and the
cars that they loved in the hood with rims and this,
that and the other thing. But now it makes sense
to why you did it that way.
Speaker 10 (28:46):
Because because the concept that how I made songs, I
thought about the visuals and everything. You know what I'm saying,
like what the video was gonna be, how we was
gonna do it, and how we was gonna you know,
sell it, and with what women made things Completely different
from when I saw a shift in music was when
we did go DJ. You know, the concept that when
we was doing it, I said, we're gonna send all
(29:08):
the DJ's like a video camera and like if you
was a radio DJ, you can you know, tape your
show and send it back to us, and we're gonna
take all of that footage and we gonna, you know,
and then we're gonna make this like something big, like
with all the radio DJs. So when when when so
I got the hook on the song all of that,
and when Wayne did it, he didn't say shit about
DJs nothing at all, and I was just like, well,
(29:30):
what the fuck? The concept is not that, but it
was so jamming to I was like, Okay, I'm gonna
just leave a shit alone and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And I was like, Okay, nobody never.
Speaker 10 (29:39):
Said he ain't say shit about DJs on the ship,
like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
They didn't give a damn.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
So I was just like this crazy. So something else
is going on in the water, like you know. So
that that kind of was. I was like, Okay, there's
a shift in music, something going on, like you know,
Cause I was like, this shit crazy because they rapping
this song word for word. It has nothing thing to
do the DJ with DJs.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
But yeah, what is it about New Orleans that still
inspires y'all so much?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Culture?
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Man, it's our food, our language, we second line, we
celebrate the dead, we live, we live to celebrate we
our I'm talking about. Man, you will never see nothing
like New Orleans. It's never It's the only real twenty
four hour city in America. Everybody say they got twenty
four hour cities. And the bars close at a certain
(30:31):
you can't walk out the ball with your drink. You know,
they don't sell alcohol at the gas stations. You don't
have drive through liquor stores. We got all that and
we sell alcohol twenty four seven. If it's open, we
selling it. If you had a bar, we don't have.
Two o'clock, they say two o'clock last call for alcohol.
The ball open, you're drinking this.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
Imagine you got a crazy ass sibling or uncle or
ain t that don't give a shit about nothing that's
going on with you.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
That puts you in your place. So it's a whole
city that do that.
Speaker 10 (31:02):
They don't give a fuck about you know what I'm saying,
your success.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They're like, well, since your stupid ass down with all
of that, and it keeps you grounded. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
One of the sweet things about New Orleans. You you
will never be a star to New Orleans. And what
I mean is they gonna always treat you where. You know, like, look, look, bro,
you one of us. We respect what.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You doing whatever.
Speaker 10 (31:22):
But at the same time, Pope's chicken, that's what that's
what we doing today.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Ain't nothing special for your ass at the height.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Even at the height, well, we we had, you know,
we had our moments. But what we people saw so
much in the city like New Orleans is small. Usually
when you bump into somebody, the chances of seeing them again,
like at one hundred percent you're gonna see him again.
So down there family members that you probably never met
(31:51):
before in life, lives right on the other side of
the town, which is probably like twenty miles. Twenty miles.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, total him to run through that motherfucker. That's it.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
We think we're a huge city out of that, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
So it's so small. So it's it's well grounded, and
the people just stick to what they know. They don't
like to change. It's like a bunch of old people
that don't want change.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
One of those things we had, we had that you know,
we don't really ever get a chance to talk about.
But one of the things that we had, like a
lot of crews don't have, our parents was death every
every walk of the ship that was going on. You know,
our parents know each other, you know what I'm saying.
My mama knew his mom, like when you know they
they they hung out together. And you know if that
(32:40):
ship that was documented, you know, like Julie Daddy got
he took pictures of every ship that I'm like, I
didn't even know he was doing this shit, like you
know what I'm saying. So I think we had a
lot of ship that kept us grounded to where, you know,
like if you went crazy. You know, his mama could
tell me that because you respect her as an elder.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
She like you tripping. You got to start with that bullshit.
You you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Like you said, y'all celebrate the dead too, because I
always think about that when I see people nowadays who
I'm smoking on such and such pack or whatever whatever,
how y'all be feeling when y'all see that.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Well, that don't relate to me, cause I don't really
understand that. I'm gonna be honest with you when I
don't get that, so they gotta explain that part to
me because I don't really understand it. But in New Orleans,
instead of for us, instead of mourning and thinking about,
you know, you lost your person, you lost somebody that
you really love, we think about the great things we
did together and that what that person would have did
(33:34):
if they were still here, and we try to celebrate
those things. And that's why we call it, you know,
second line, because the first line is the band, and
the second line is the people, And it's all based
upon that. We celebrate the dead, and to be honest,
I enjoy it because who wants to be mourning and
up and sad? Like I get it when the person
(33:55):
first died, usually when the funeral occurs, that's like a
week later, a week or two late that he should
have been.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
You know.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
The craziest thing I seen in the launch Frankie Beverly
when he passed New Orleans more than them. Oh my god,
it was insane, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
They really get in a fight in New Orleans, a
serious fight. Tell somebody, Frankie Beverly ain't from there.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
Tell amazed the whole We feel like we know, we
know they not tell him that he got kids.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Line, Man, I go get my grandfather right. All your
hand down, bro, I'm saying by that man from Philadelphia. Man,
don't give na bro nah brot. The funeral was here.
He wasn't in the casket.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
But they had an all white ally the city down, all.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
White parade, and he made a casket. Bro, he wasn't
in it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He wasn't in it.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
Casket around like he was in the second line and
tossing it everything and I was mad.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
I was mad because I wasn't. The song I am
is called Julie Beverley, right, because everybody always like my
guy uh slab, always called me Frankie Beverly. For one reason,
Mays is one of the only bands that he performed
all the way up until he couldn't no more. Right,
(35:24):
always stayed booked. And he said the same thing about it,
like you, if you stayed booked, You're like, God, damn
you stay booked. You like Frankie Beverley. So I always
looked at Maids as somebody that I wanted to be like.
That's why I got a band, because I feel like
they had the best band, that live band on stage.
If you've never seen anybody perform, trust me, nobody's touching them.
(35:48):
And we miss him. We miss him in New Orleans,
take it, take it to heart. Uh but wise the
superfessor in New Orleans super we ain't.
Speaker 10 (35:57):
See Maids first. We grew up with Maids. Your mama
cleaned your house.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
At the single in New Orleans, he said, famous word.
He said, why would you do a live album in
New Orleans said, I said, well why not? You did?
That's that's law. That is Martin Luther King sayings and
that's next.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Listen how many times had somebody actually paid your back?
Speaker 11 (36:21):
And Jesus my wife for my personal bitness in the street.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Man all the time. This album, yeah, I start on
April April second. I've been promoting it for a couple
of months now. My guy's gonna come out. I've been
trying to get him on the whole day.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I'm gonna do some date something out here.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
A couple he just thought, I said, Jesus man, he
just doing everything Africa.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
DJ for eighty everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
That he makes it, he get his money.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I'm out here.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
The record one more round, right.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
It's such a different sound, but it feels like it
feels like you know that that that that's summer and soul,
that's coming from South Carolina right now.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
That that's why No, no, my god, my guy brig
from Nashville. Right from my relationship with Nashville is high
and back that the ash up because that's where we
recorded them. An so I always Nashville, man, always feel
like that's home for me. So Nashville always felt like
I'm one of them. So I said, you know what,
(37:35):
I'm gonna do a song directly strictly for Nashville. And
I got my guy bre on that doing that. He
did this thing, They did the track and everything for me.
They mix, they did everything. I just rapped on it
and it came when I heard I said, damn, it
does have that Southern It does have that feel too.
When you're making music, you never know how it's gonna
come out until you finish. So it was one of
(37:57):
them things. People gonna have the analysis of it and
hopefully they all like it.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You may get record like that.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah. Just the crazy thing is the dude Raymond, that's
my Roaldy. You know.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
He was just kind of singing around, you know, and
I'm like, bro, you really you know, you really know
what you're doing. So I just started cutting songs like
that on him and you're doing they coming out and
I'm like yeah, and I'm like yeah, and that's that's fun.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
For me when it's musicianship in it, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (38:23):
And I'm like, bro, I kind of this this is
my lane right now, so you're gonna hear a lot of.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Them from me.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Bro, you said we might be getting to catch Money
No Limit tour. That's happening.
Speaker 10 (38:33):
Yeah, that could happen, could have been. Yeah, I mean
we negotiations.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Negotiating, negotiations, paid until we get that bag.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Congrat We barely got the verses. How a y'all gonna
do it?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Money, money, goodness.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Everybody we expected to see the verses will be on
this tour coming.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
We come to Breakfast Club to elevate our.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
I just remember when I heard you say. I think
it was with the drink chances somewhere. You was like,
you almost didn't do verse im.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Wait wait, wait, hold up. I'm the biggest little Wayne
fan als. I don't know if you've seen me. Our
campaign all the time is I think Wayne is the
greatest rapper of all time. I don't care who they say.
I always put him at one. You know when we
ain't on show up, you damn right. I got a problem.
You know how we gonna do a cash Money versus
No Limit and we won't have our machine, we don't
(39:37):
have our woozie with us. I was like, look, and
we ain't going to do it. I ain't doing it,
But my man Swiss Beast shot out the Swiss Beast
and Timlin. They called me and gave me along, give
me a long speech on why I should do it,
and I thought about it. I said, you know what,
I'm gonna go ahead on and do it, especially when
I found out what the reasons was my guy in
show up.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
I'm fans fans, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
But I wish we would have did it in New Orleans.
So that's why we still should be having it. We
still we still got more verses to do because it
definitely should have happened in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You swised that record after the verses.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
No, no, it was before the record.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
This is what I can't wait for.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
I can't wait for the tour because look, yo, I
was on I've never seen nothing like this I saw.
I did a couple of shows with you. I'm happyest
hell that I got to do that. But I was
at one of the stops. They had messed up your
sound and you had a lot you was headlining, so
you did like you close out the show. You were
so mad, you was like, fuck it, y'all, can just
cut it off, and you performed the rest of your
(40:37):
fella and everybody was singing with.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
You like.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
One of the guys, and everybody was crazy.
Speaker 9 (40:45):
This man performed like what nine ten songs without the
music and everybody was singing.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
I was like, oh, this is great now, see that's
what I need.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Y'all heard.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Go find my tickets. Man, I'm gonna save my damn.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Song comes out when Congratulations come out again. The twenty seventh, Yes.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Don't Say Nope album, the twenty six at twelve o'clock.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
All right, the twenty six by the twenty sixth, the
twenty sixth at midnight. Make sure you get the album
and check out their podcast. Will for the podcast. Will
appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
For doing that.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Represent for the older folks.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Man, Yeah, man, I got you.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
You got all over my sweater. You want your head
full of your ass, You're gonna find out, like yeah,
don't talking.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
About it right.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
One. You want a young nigga around on the full,
or you want to grown man, you can drop polling.
That's the one talking about.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Is Manny Fresh. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, hold.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Up every day a week, click your ass up the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
You're finished with your dumb
Every day a week ago.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Click your glass up the Breakfast Club. I'm finish for y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Done morning.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Everybody's d j n V. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. Long the ruses here as well.
We got some special guests in the buildings, icons juvenile
and many fresh back at it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
How you feeling?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Cooling?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Cooling?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Trying to make y'all half.
Speaker 6 (00:27):
You're making it, man, because I know we're here to
talk about the steal four hundred podcasts.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yes, then or they send us a copy of that damn.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Boiling point man, Lord have murder even making some magor
appropriate music, man, because then the age of forty seven,
one of my favorite things to do is something dooze off.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Not something.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
The album is dope, Thank you the album. I'm glad
y'all listen to what I did the copy of it.
But and y'all know it's a couple of tracks that
ain't on that right. So it's the rob full nine
y'all popping in here, and y'all hear the Young Boy record,
but we didn't even hit y ain't hear the Wayne
record either. I got two albums right, So I'm releasing
(01:16):
one now and I'm gonna wait a few months and
release the second. So that's what the thing. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We noticed the one with Megan that was released B
B B. Megan is not on the album.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
She's on the album. I think they sent y'all. Yeah,
she's on the album. I think they sent for a copy.
But it's all good. I don't even know if the
all of y'all got right, because I think guys said
the first song was with BG, and I was like, no,
it ain't the first song.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
The first song I think is Beverly.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, that's not the first song.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That j Beverley, And then it's dropped the location and
pay me back and yeah, yeah, go ahead and say it, bro,
pay me back.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Let me let me.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I've been singing that song on stage and by the
time I get to the second hook, all the women
are singing and I tell them, y'all, so.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That time you got BG and.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Bird Man in their bag on this project too, Like
what do you What is it about you that seems
to bring out the best in them?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But do y'all just bring out the best in each other.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I'm competitive, you know, if you want to save me.
I always always have been me, and man, I don't
know if people know me and this dude been one
in the studio from day one. I'm just competitive. I
walk in the studio and say I'm about to I'm
about to bust your ass. You better be ready. And uh,
they when we do songs together, they know that's how
I feel, so they're gonna be competitive with me.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What got you to this point where? I know a
lot of times when the artists get a little older,
they're scared to put out music because they're scared that
how will be received, right because everything is a stream,
everything is a number. But here it looked like you
ain't give about none of that.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You just put on.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I really focused on my nine nine and my two thousands. Really,
you know, I don't. I don't want to chase a fan.
I just want to do good music and hopefully people
accept it and like it. But I'm really not trying
to chase a fan. I'm doing this for me and
my people, and that's it.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Even the way you was rolling out some of the
new music, like you would drop the videos on your
Instagram and then that would go crazy, so we're all like, well,
where is it.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Where is it like?
Speaker 7 (03:20):
But you dropping it like like if you said a
lot of times people hesitate you just putting it out
there like I know you're gonna want this here boom,
and they do.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah. And you know what is the funny part is
when I put that first date out that I was
going to release in October, people got mad at me
when I put the album out. So I'm glad it's
coming out, and it's coming out on my birthday, So
we're really gonna cut up timeless y'all.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
Both of y'all sound like even your son every every.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
It's not like you y'all.
Speaker 9 (03:50):
Ever stepped out of music or took a hiatus or whatever.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
Like you sound like you ain't never stop. I love it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I really never stopped. But the truth is just kind
of scared of get in the studio, listening to everything
else that's going on. I just was like, damn, I
don't know if I could. I don't know if I
could compete. But then I had to sit back and
have it, have that that that reality check that tells me, nah, bro,
you gotta you gotta make music for you and your fans.
You don't have to appeal to nobody else.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
It was crazy because the production of it sounds like,
I mean, you weren't afraid of that either, like even
on the Hot Boys Summer and like the sample that
you used there with the da bar sample. Yeah, it
doesn't sound like you were afraid to get back in
the studio or worried about competing at all.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
It's like you knew exactly what you wanted to kind
of get into.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Shout out to my man C Smith too for making
that track. I really was scared. Who I'm not getting
no money off this one. But yeah, the album just
came together. Many many did so much, so many great
things outside of him, just you know, producing the tracks,
the ideas, our ideas was flowing together to make this
project what it is.
Speaker 10 (04:54):
What about you, man, I know you're not scared of
getting the student Hell no, I mean I'm trying to
bring fun back, bro. You know in our era was fun,
you know, and you gotta you know, it resonate When
the song sound like that, people know the song is like,
oh well, this is really his personality. This is in
somewhere we got too cool to have fun, you know.
So when when I do it, I'm going head, I'm
(05:16):
gonna have fun. You know, it's gonna be some vodka
and some juice. And I'm like, turn on the mic,
and you know, and he already. What's cool about Juvie
is he knows what I'm gonna do, like you know,
and he ain't trying to say change.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
He's like, he's like, bro, I know you're gonna.
Speaker 10 (05:31):
Say some crazy ass or whatever, you know, And and
I'm like, that is the way I approach a song,
and it resonates with our fans. I think what he
found out what you know, Like he didn't figure out
by us being on tour. When me and him went
on tour, we got close to the fans and we
and we figured out, like, y'all really like this that
(05:52):
we do. Y'all don't want the new version of us.
You know what I'm saying, y'all don't need the new
version of us. They just like, do what you doing?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
We all right with.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We're gonna bring dancing back. Is what you bring it up?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Dance specifically shaking your ass. Yes, I know I can't.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
When you're getting the studio today many are you chasing
nostalgia or are you trying to create a new sound?
Speaker 10 (06:21):
You know, I had a long time of doing that,
trying to say, well, you know, this is what this
sound like or whatever, and I'm like, this is a
headache trying to figure out something that you already know.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
How to do, you know.
Speaker 10 (06:34):
So I just had that moment of like, let me
step back and and real real. I stopped listening to
just new you know what I'm saying, because it's it's
nothing against it, but that that's that's their.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Error, that belongs to them. And I'm like, you know what,
let me go back to my error.
Speaker 10 (06:50):
Let me listen to some of it that I love,
like a ball, m J G or whatever, like you know.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And that right.
Speaker 10 (06:56):
There was like, okay, this this is still the same music, chords,
same format. And the reason why we like them songs
like that so much because they're easy, you know, and
and and we we've been using the same patterns for forever.
We already know them. They em better than us. It's
like hearing Marvin Gay, you know, and you don't even
know why it's timeless, why you like because it's simple
and it's it's it's the same that's been used in
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music for forever and forever.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I wanted to somebody in this room. I wanted to
know Fuego and said, is Fueg?
Speaker 7 (07:26):
What did you I said, I said, I it's flip on,
like a Latin flip on.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Get it from my mama.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Nah, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
But she asked that question. I'm liked. Man, it's like
it's the hot boys. They've been using references the fire
for I.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
Was trying to figure out because there was on the
other songs. I was trying to figure out, like if
you like, use one of your older songs because I
thought I heard like some.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Of the things.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Like she figured out, it was like so many ways
we fire, so many different ways. We got to, you know,
be innovative, and that was that was my way of
doing it.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
I made them put the song on the other room
and then we was playing it together. I'm like, I
know I hear this, but I can't how.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Many how many fire references could.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I mean, I'll try it for that song.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Training.
Speaker 10 (08:26):
Man, they're talking about shooting the video for You went
against the DJ and you told him you hear She
came just quiet.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It was quiet. Did you have and I'm do.
Speaker 8 (08:36):
I hear another song in your song?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Got so mad.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's like so mad, it's just something, you know what?
Speaker 7 (08:45):
She young always shut up. He always because I'm thirty four.
He always talked to me like I don't have any
experience with old music. Like my experience is a little
younger than yours.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Your mama, your mama was listening to it, probably your parents,
right from your mom. That's where she got it from.
You let her live.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
That's what I was saying back to the ancestors every
time I say something.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
But even in that album is called Boiling Point.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Yeah, right, so what that's an intense title when that
feeds into the fire references to it?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Does?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
That's all it is. It's really like four hundred degrees
twoenty twenty six basically.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But do you chase those records?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
The back of the ass up records?
Speaker 10 (09:27):
And do you chase those No? No, I feel like touches.
When somebody tell me make one of them, I'm like,
I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Somebody call you say make me one of them.
Speaker 10 (09:37):
There's been so many artists that said that. You know
what I'm saying, like can you make me? I'm like
I can't that that ain't gonna happen again. That was
something special about that moment that day, how it went down,
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You can't tell us how it went down, beefing.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Basically, he kept changing. The first of all, I was rapping,
I wasn't doing it. Yeah, the and doing none of that.
He kept changing. He see, his thing was I can't
beat him out. So I felt like I was killing
him on the first On the first beat, I was
killing I was like, damn, man. So when I got
back to the studio, he had to change the beat.
It's the first time. I'm like, damn. So I changed
(10:16):
the lyrics again. I got him again. I'm like, I
got his ass again. So we come back, we get
the Nashville out of the album, gotta get turned in
the next day, they're like, bro, you got two days.
You got one day to record two songs. I'm like, well, damn,
what songs I gotta record? He said, man, we gotta
do huh. And you said you want to hear you
heard back of the ass up again? I said, nah,
(10:36):
so man, they played it to me, so now they
got them even changed the whole beat again. I said,
I go in the room. Now. He tell him you
can't change nothing, saying you ain't changing nothing. So I
walk out the room, I get him my minding mood,
and I go straight to slump, say, slim brother, he
done did it again. Bro y'all got a lead to
at least let me do something else. Let me take
(10:58):
a chance at recording another the song, so let me
get in there. That's how we got what we got.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
So it wasn't always the violin in the beginning.
Speaker 10 (11:09):
Yeah, because I was just like this, you know, like
sometimes you know one of them that's gonna be a hit.
Just the DJ and me knew that this song was
gonna be a hit. I was like, this one is
gonna be a hit. And I was like the intro
was the setup, like, you know, because because it was
still the era of like whatever you're doing, you know,
you got time to get to the to the dance floor.
I was like, you know what, this should need a intro.
(11:30):
It needs like a little setup. When it comes down,
it's gonna be phenomenal, you know. And and you got
to think when you're telling somebody that they don't get it,
they're like, why you did that long assh it in
the beginning, And I'm like, I got this.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I know what all know.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
In the clubs, they extended even longer.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
The right right then, That's why I got a whole
joke in my set about it, and I come out
to back that ass up.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
I go off the back that ass up. I got
a joke about it. I don't I don't play about
that song anthem of all time.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And I wanted to do when I saw something.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
I don't know if it was on the still point
the podcast, you said everybody hated.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
The song man.
Speaker 10 (12:05):
Well, no, Juve didn't see it, as you know, because
he didn't want to be known as a bounce rapper,
because you know, he really really he was like, and
I'm like, bro, this one, I promise you, this one
is gonna be one up.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Okay, I'm gonna give you example. He wanted that to
be the first single, and I was totally against that.
I'm like, bro, I've been doing bounce music my whole life.
I come over here to get away from it. I
don't mind doing one or two songs, but you gotta
let me. I want to let the world know I
could really rap, you know what I'm saying, And I
want to not just be a normal rap. I want
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to push the needle a little bit. And I felt
like how I was doing that was gonna do that
for me. And I was right. I was right because
I mean my dog jay Z jumps on the remix.
So I feel like I did do what I do
my thing. But guess what it didn't do. It didn't
send people to the record stores. I mean, so I
wasn't sell him because of that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So let me ask you to the end of back
that ass up right driving Where did that come from?
Because not every verse and had it with Wayne Wayne
on it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So you waited and yeah, Wayne waited in the corner.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Wayne knew it as well that just like.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Some dude I got something.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I was like, go ahead, saying, I said, that's.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Way was he can see it in the course would happened?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
He was he was gonna be.
Speaker 10 (13:23):
He meant he was gonna be on this ship, like
you know what I'm saying. And he was just like, well,
when can I do something? I was like, go ahead, bro,
do the n.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Not gonna went on the fade out. Let's you gonna
go on the verse?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
He really wanted a verse. It was too loud. It
was it was our show.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
When you all do the podcast, How does it feel
talking to people that you know, your lives are more interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I rather you and man talking.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Shout out to everybody have been on my podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
We want our.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Podcasts to keep going. Podcasts, well, it was a little
bit of both of us and Dave too, you know,
but U Manny was was the first one with the title.
You know, I was lost with the title. You know,
I'm never good with.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Making you know, And people were like, well, what you know?
Speaker 10 (14:24):
It came from still Fly and you know, four hundred degrees,
which is to me, one of the most popular songs,
like from the big timers.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
To me, it's still Fly.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
So I was just like, why not incorporate something that's
both of us or whatever, like, you know, and and
it represents both of us.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So that's where the name came from.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
But our podcast is about fun, so we don't get
on that. We don't want people even coming over there
with expresses or your beefs. We try our best to
combat that. We want to get on there and just
have fun, talk about the funny things in your life,
talk about things that people don't know about you. A
lot of cats got got some humor going on inside
that they don't let people. Well, no, they never come out,
they shell. So that's what we try to do on
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our show.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Is the album boiling point is?
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Is it about proving something or is it more about
just documenting what y'all mind is today?
Speaker 5 (15:10):
It's more like satisfying my fans and really feeding the
hunger of myself and seeing if I could really do it.
It's like an old cat saying I still got it.
I still got y'all said, I like, yeah, that's what
I need. But it's pretty much me man, just you know,
letting letting my fans know where I'm mad in life.
I'm happy, you know, simple as that, I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
How do you Megan get up on that record for
the BBB?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Well, people reached out to me. But like she was
talking about the snippets, I put a snippet out riding
riding in the car with just the one version the
hook playing, and it went crazy and the first the
first comments, all the comments was Megan needs to be
on this. I mean with ninety percent of the comments,
Megan needs to be on this making it. So my
thing was okay, y'all go tell her. And they started
(15:52):
going on page telling us and they reached out to it,
reached out for the song.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
So what's happening with the date, because wasn't it like
with that song specifically, it was like supposed to up
at one point you and megans for her verse and
then you changed the day and it was upset.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I didn't have nothing to do with that. Only thing
I changed the data on is the album release. And
they was said about the album releasing, but we shocked
them with that because they kept asking for it. But
I never told him it was happening until like two
days before it came out.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Who's the young lady that was on it before Megan.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Her name is Genesis to God and she's cutting up
on I didn't take off the album for the record too,
because that's one of my son's friends and she did
a great job.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
She delivered it.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So do you go to your son more now like something?
Speaker 11 (16:34):
Really?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I go to my kids for a lot. My daughter
runs my social media, so she does.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
A good job because it reaches outside of ye.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
She she she is stuck on algorithms. I don't even
understand it.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
But it is just one of the people that you
talked to when you said at first she was feeling
scared like about getting in the studio making new music
or whatever because of everything that's out now, did you
talk to him about it?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
So I'm with my baby boy, my youngest boy, almost
every day of the week because he's a school teacher
once house. I'm just an aggravating parent. I'm always his
house and my oldest son, our young juve. He's the
one that's always like telling me, Pops, you should do this,
you should do this, try this. So you know, it's
kind of like I'm the kid again, you know, like
(17:16):
they say twice a child, twice a kid. It's kind
of like they parenting me a little bit. And I
just I just listen.
Speaker 10 (17:22):
I don't ask you, man, do you think that culture
is ready to respect it's elders the same way genres
like jazz.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Or blues did or rock and roll?
Speaker 10 (17:31):
I think we gotta knock down walls, bro Like, it's
a rebirth of music for me, and it's and the
cool thing is that it's now or never. You know,
we got a lot of I won't call him old school,
I'm gonna say seasoned artists. That's like they making good music,
great albums, and it's and you're seeing the shift. You're
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seeing people like Oh, I really like this, Like, you know,
it's got substance, it's got movement to it.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So I think we gotta knock down doors.
Speaker 10 (17:59):
You know, we can't accept no more when somebody does
an interview and they say, I don't really rap, I
just do this. Well move out the way and let
somebody who do it do it, you know, because because
you got a lot of artists that do that, that
say like, this ain't really my thing, you know, And
I'm like, well, this this is really my thing.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
This is my bread and butter, you know.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
And I think we got to knock down doors sometimes
and shake things up.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, you think for me, I don't. I try not
to be so critical of the young cast because I
was that cat and a lot of the older cast
was calling what I did one rap. They said that
ain't rapping. I'm like, well, damn, bro, I'm taking care
of my family. My records is selling. I'm selling more
records than you, and I'm doing good. I'm doing good
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in my life, So who cares if it's rapping or not?
Like if my fans, the fans see me a certain way,
I don't even care what another artist thing about. So
us as so now, me being that older cat, I
always stick my hand out to him. I always reach
my arm out to him, and I always try to
show him love. And I'm never gonna say nothing negative
about him, because if how do you want to see him?
(19:04):
You want to see him with a mic or you
want to see him with that tool in his hand, right,
you know? So so I try to I try to
think like that and try to have an open mind
about it, because we don't own this, and I don't
see no other genre of music criticizing the youngsters. I
don't see country doing that. I don't see r being
I don't see nobody else doing that. So I try
to tell my cast, and the cast is old before me, like,
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we don't own it, bro, we don't have ownership. We
don't have a union or something like that. That that
that that predicts how this, how this goes. So there's
no rules, So stop trying to make a rule.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Think we bridge that gap?
Speaker 10 (19:41):
How do you think we get this this younger generation
to respect you know what came before them?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Just keep making dope music like you see what t
I doing right now with the with to let them
no record like dope records of don't records that they transcend,
you know, age like you got the BBB joint right now,
people loving the record. Yeah, I just think making no
music because I was talking about that earlier. With the
younger generation, I feel like because of social media, they
don't have they don't get the real world experience, Yeah,
(20:10):
to still be able to write well into their forties fifties.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
If yeah, you got good odd y'all do a really
good job about talking about this SEP stuff on the podcast.
I remember it was a clip with David Banner that
went viral and he was talking about how y'all were
trying to survive the industry at one point. So y'all
didn't really get the chance to pass down the tools
because you were surviving it. And the young generation of
music needs that. And when I I mean, I watched
your show, but when I saw that, I'm like, this
is why y'all podcast is going to be so gold
(20:34):
because of those type of conversations, because now y'all in
a space where y'all could do it, and that preserves
it too.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah. I think the good thing about it is it's
not about us, right, It's about the person that comes
on and to the younger generation. I feel like I
feel like I'm a part of their generation. Also, I
mean I do music with the younger cats. Also FO
two Doug is one of my friend's son. Me and
Ron full nine just did an album together, so you know,
and all the album album. So when I run and
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then too young cats, I don't never treat them like that.
I don't never say I don't care. I got my opinion.
Whatever my personal opinion is of them, I keep it
to myself because I was taught if you ain't got
nothing good to say, I don't say nothing at all.
You ain't got to spend a night with that person,
you ain't got to be with them twenty four seven.
So that's how I do. I try to spread the
love and hopefully these cats will start seeing what I'm
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doing and follow suit.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
How that I with Rob will not come about just that.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
And it's kind of crazy he say, Oh, you don't
like you don't. You don't A lot of the old
old g s don't treat us the way you do.
And it kind of like he felt like you relate
to me better than everybody else.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
What's one thing that y'all learned that you passed down
now that you didn't realize when you were trying to
survive the industry be out of yall to live in
and y'all.
Speaker 10 (21:44):
Are a statement that you said. You know, it's a
lot of artists I don't know. I don't know what
it is. They don't have the guts to say. The
reason why I couldn't help you because I was fucked
up myself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I was.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
I was fighting fills, you know, I was trying to
figure out my paperwork. I was trying to figure out
cross my t's and dot my eyes like you know.
So I couldn't tell you how to do it when
I didn't know how to do it, you know, and
it took a while, you know, to learn, like, Okay,
I can't do homeboy business. I gotta really do the
(22:15):
lawyers got to show up. We can't just shake hands
on it no more. And if you if you say
it can't happen that way, then we can't do it,
you know, because it's it's how how can I tell
the next generation how to survive this when I'm still
doing it, you know, in a in a crazy ass manner,
when I'm just I'm trusting somebody who I'm like, nah, nah.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
It's crazy. You know when you look we had Teddy
Rally up here, and when Teddy Rally you talk about
all of his city's produced, he said, we had like
Salt and Pepper Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that
put out all these records that say, to this day
their paperwork a't right. You start understanding like, damn, we
gotta pass down what we know because if not, we're
gonna be in the same situation over and over again.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
And we look at I look at it like a
sacrifice man, because you know, in the beginning, we didn't
have the means that the artists got. Right now, we
like these artists surround themselves with some of the best
lawyers in the best everything. Well, we didn't have those advantages.
All those advantages was at the record companies. They had
all the best lawyers and the best representation. So now
(23:18):
when when when the new catch come around and they
they they do their business the way they do it,
we see it and we're like, god, damn, oh, I
wish we had the opportunities that they got. If we
had social media, even though you know it could be
negative in its own way. But I think if we
had social media in our era, when the records was
(23:39):
the record sales was through the damn roof, like ninety eight,
ninety nine, ninety seven, we would we would have way
more money, way more revenue than we have.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It was a lot different, though, Like you said, you
had to be intentional to go buy an album, right,
it wasn't You couldn't buy it online. You had to
go to a record store. You had to go to
a CD spot. You had to go buy it, and
that whether it was rain, sleet, snow hot, you went
to go buy that album.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And if it was a real music hege, you ain't
want to hear from your pot and or your friend.
You had to have a first.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, fail, you made you better.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
Fail, you made you better in our era because you
was just like, I can't fall on my face, and
y'all just look at me and laugh. I'll be back,
and when I come back, it's gonna be bigger and
better next time I come back, you know. And then
now it just seem like, you know, when shit happens,
how do you dust yourself off? How do you get
back out there? You got to do some shock value
shit or some crazy ship instead of just hey, dust
(24:29):
yourself off and get back out.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
You know what, though, in the days of social media,
it's so hard once you get once you go down,
to build yourself back up.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I don't know why, because the narrative. The narrative sticks
with you on social media.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
So once you become a joke on social media, it
stays there for a long time. You could be winning
in real life, on social media, they'll still act like
you lose it big feel that you was here about
the business. It's interesting to hear y'all say that, because
I always felt like cash money they should told us
how to do business.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
No, we did. I'm gonna say we did business far
as record company business in the beginning for us as artists.
As the artist, we didn't have our ship together. And
I'm not playing the finger at them, because we had
our ship together, none of some of the things would
have never happened. But yeah, as far as cash money, breaking,
kicking down or breaking barriers to deal for thirty million dollars,
(25:21):
that definitely broke barriers.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And I was asked, what were your biggest failures? Do
you I remember your biggest failures in the industry? One
thing that you're mad. It looked like, oh, maybe I
shouldn't have did this record, or I shouldn't have did this.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
One of my biggest failures in the music industry. If
I want to say a record, a record, probably uh
the floor rid of record, and it wasn't mine. Let
me say it was. It was. It was Paul Wall's record.
But Mike Caroon told me multiple times, Man, you should
keep this record. You should cake Paul won On want
it and you're killing it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
You should keep yes record too.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
No, it was never never Nelly record. So so, uh,
Paul Wall didn't want it. I'm like, they got to
take the apple bottom jeans part off of New Orleans.
We don't. I say, they got to take that part off.
So let's see if t pag can take it off.
T like, nah, I ain't changing it. It's staying like that.
So then Mike brings up floor Rider. I got a
new cat floor Rider Da Da da. I'm like, well, shit,
(26:16):
let him have it. I can. If he's not gonna
change it, let him have it. But that was a fumble.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
They would have been the same record for you though.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Yeah, I mean had the same hook on it. You
don't think the hook.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
So I would say, not speak in my mind, you know,
you know, because it was a lot of shit. I
let just go, you know, because wanting to stay neutral,
not wanting to see the argument, and not wanting to
see the fight, like you know what I'm saying. And
I feel like, because if I would have spoke my mind,
I think shit would have turned out different. But I
(26:48):
also believe that there's something like God got a plan
for you. Sometimes you gotta walk that walk, like you know,
and and everything happened for a reason. But but I
would say one of the biggest regrets was not you know,
speaking my mind a lot of times on how I
really felt about situations.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Would you say, used to argue in the studio, Yeah, we.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
Did, But there was projects that I was like, we
shouldn't do this right now at the time, it shouldn't
have been like it, Like for instance, for a hundred degrees,
I wasn't ready to let that album go. I knew
there was other singles on it, you know what I'm saying.
And I and I and I agreed to like they
like we gotta work on Julie's new album. I'm like, no,
we don't we we we we we haven't scratched the
surface with this. We're not finished, you know what I'm saying.
(27:28):
Where I'm like, shit, I'm like, I know there's other
songs in here.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You gotta think for degrees. Was never a single.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Man oh man, put your sets up, run for it. Yeah, man,
we could have it was it was more that.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
Was there was times where like just just a simple format,
you know where the concept of like the beginning of
this was like we we we wanted to do things
that were obtainable to the hood and people like So
that's why when we first started doing this, it was
PT Cruises and Chrysler three hundred, remember, because we knew
you could afford that ship, you know what I'm saying,
(28:06):
And everybody was purpose yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
But then Egos got it's Lamborghini time, It's D D
D D. And my concept was always it's more Honda
cards than Lamborghinis.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Stick with the Honda cards and we're gonna want you know.
And I'm like, dude, you changing from you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (28:27):
But I was like, okay, I'm gonna go with the floor,
you know.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Yeah, you to so yeah, all of audd moments.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
But now when you think about it, go back to
those videos. You remember seeing the PT cruises and the
cars that they loved in the hood with rims and this,
that and the other thing. But now it makes sense
to why you did it that way.
Speaker 10 (28:46):
Because because the concept that how I made songs, I
thought about the visuals and everything. You know what I'm saying,
like what the video was gonna be, how we was
gonna do it, and how we was gonna you know,
sell it, and with what women made things Completely different
from when I saw a shift in music was when
we did go DJ. You know, the concept that when
we was doing it, I said, we're gonna send all
(29:08):
the DJ's like a video camera and like if you
was a radio DJ, you can you know, tape your
show and send it back to us, and we're gonna
take all of that footage and we gonna, you know,
and then we're gonna make this like something big, like
with all the radio DJs. So when when when so
I got the hook on the song all of that,
and when Wayne did it, he didn't say shit about
DJs nothing at all, and I was just like, well,
(29:30):
what the fuck? The concept is not that, but it
was so jamming to I was like, Okay, I'm gonna
just leave a shit alone and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And I was like, Okay, nobody never.
Speaker 10 (29:39):
Said he ain't say shit about DJs on the ship,
like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
They didn't give a damn.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
So I was just like this crazy. So something else
is going on in the water, like you know. So
that that kind of was. I was like, Okay, there's
a shift in music, something going on, like you know,
Cause I was like, this shit crazy because they rapping
this song word for word. It has nothing thing to
do the DJ with DJs.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
But yeah, what is it about New Orleans that still
inspires y'all so much?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Culture?
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Man, it's our food, our language, we second line, we
celebrate the dead, we live, we live to celebrate we
our I'm talking about. Man, you will never see nothing
like New Orleans. It's never It's the only real twenty
four hour city in America. Everybody say they got twenty
four hour cities. And the bars close at a certain
(30:31):
you can't walk out the ball with your drink. You know,
they don't sell alcohol at the gas stations. You don't
have drive through liquor stores. We got all that and
we sell alcohol twenty four seven. If it's open, we
selling it. If you had a bar, we don't have.
Two o'clock, they say two o'clock last call for alcohol.
The ball open, you're drinking this.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
Imagine you got a crazy ass sibling or uncle or
ain t that don't give a shit about nothing that's
going on with you.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
That puts you in your place. So it's a whole
city that do that.
Speaker 10 (31:02):
They don't give a fuck about you know what I'm saying,
your success.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They're like, well, since your stupid ass down with all
of that, and it keeps you grounded. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
One of the sweet things about New Orleans. You you
will never be a star to New Orleans. And what
I mean is they gonna always treat you where. You know, like, look, look, bro,
you one of us. We respect what.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You doing whatever.
Speaker 10 (31:22):
But at the same time, Pope's chicken, that's what that's
what we doing today.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Ain't nothing special for your ass at the height.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Even at the height, well, we we had, you know,
we had our moments. But what we people saw so
much in the city like New Orleans is small. Usually
when you bump into somebody, the chances of seeing them again,
like at one hundred percent you're gonna see him again.
So down there family members that you probably never met
(31:51):
before in life, lives right on the other side of
the town, which is probably like twenty miles. Twenty miles.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, total him to run through that motherfucker. That's it.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
We think we're a huge city out of that, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
So it's so small. So it's it's well grounded, and
the people just stick to what they know. They don't
like to change. It's like a bunch of old people
that don't want change.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
One of those things we had, we had that you know,
we don't really ever get a chance to talk about.
But one of the things that we had, like a
lot of crews don't have, our parents was death every
every walk of the ship that was going on. You know,
our parents know each other, you know what I'm saying.
My mama knew his mom, like when you know they
they they hung out together. And you know if that
(32:40):
ship that was documented, you know, like Julie Daddy got
he took pictures of every ship that I'm like, I
didn't even know he was doing this shit, like you
know what I'm saying. So I think we had a
lot of ship that kept us grounded to where, you know,
like if you went crazy. You know, his mama could
tell me that because you respect her as an elder.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
She like you tripping. You got to start with that bullshit.
You you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Like you said, y'all celebrate the dead too, because I
always think about that when I see people nowadays who
I'm smoking on such and such pack or whatever whatever,
how y'all be feeling when y'all see that.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Well, that don't relate to me, cause I don't really
understand that. I'm gonna be honest with you when I
don't get that, so they gotta explain that part to
me because I don't really understand it. But in New Orleans,
instead of for us, instead of mourning and thinking about,
you know, you lost your person, you lost somebody that
you really love, we think about the great things we
did together and that what that person would have did
(33:34):
if they were still here, and we try to celebrate
those things. And that's why we call it, you know,
second line, because the first line is the band, and
the second line is the people, And it's all based
upon that. We celebrate the dead, and to be honest,
I enjoy it because who wants to be mourning and
up and sad? Like I get it when the person
(33:55):
first died, usually when the funeral occurs, that's like a
week later, a week or two late that he should
have been.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
You know.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
The craziest thing I seen in the launch Frankie Beverly
when he passed New Orleans more than them. Oh my god,
it was insane, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
They really get in a fight in New Orleans, a
serious fight. Tell somebody, Frankie Beverly ain't from there.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
Tell amazed the whole We feel like we know, we
know they not tell him that he got kids.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Line, Man, I go get my grandfather right. All your
hand down, bro, I'm saying by that man from Philadelphia. Man,
don't give na bro nah brot. The funeral was here.
He wasn't in the casket.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
But they had an all white ally the city down, all.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
White parade, and he made a casket. Bro, he wasn't
in it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He wasn't in it.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
Casket around like he was in the second line and
tossing it everything and I was mad.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
I was mad because I wasn't. The song I am
is called Julie Beverley, right, because everybody always like my
guy uh slab, always called me Frankie Beverly. For one reason,
Mays is one of the only bands that he performed
all the way up until he couldn't no more. Right,
(35:24):
always stayed booked. And he said the same thing about it,
like you, if you stayed booked, You're like, God, damn
you stay booked. You like Frankie Beverley. So I always
looked at Maids as somebody that I wanted to be like.
That's why I got a band, because I feel like
they had the best band, that live band on stage.
If you've never seen anybody perform, trust me, nobody's touching them.
(35:48):
And we miss him. We miss him in New Orleans,
take it, take it to heart. Uh but wise the
superfessor in New Orleans super we ain't.
Speaker 10 (35:57):
See Maids first. We grew up with Maids. Your mama
cleaned your house.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
At the single in New Orleans, he said, famous word.
He said, why would you do a live album in
New Orleans said, I said, well why not? You did?
That's that's law. That is Martin Luther King sayings and
that's next.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Listen how many times had somebody actually paid your back?
Speaker 11 (36:21):
And Jesus my wife for my personal bitness in the street.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Man all the time. This album, yeah, I start on
April April second. I've been promoting it for a couple
of months now. My guy's gonna come out. I've been
trying to get him on the whole day.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I'm gonna do some date something out here.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
A couple he just thought, I said, Jesus man, he
just doing everything Africa.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
DJ for eighty everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
That he makes it, he get his money.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I'm out here.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
The record one more round, right.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
It's such a different sound, but it feels like it
feels like you know that that that that's summer and soul,
that's coming from South Carolina right now.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
That that's why No, no, my god, my guy brig
from Nashville. Right from my relationship with Nashville is high
and back that the ash up because that's where we
recorded them. An so I always Nashville, man, always feel
like that's home for me. So Nashville always felt like
I'm one of them. So I said, you know what,
(37:35):
I'm gonna do a song directly strictly for Nashville. And
I got my guy bre on that doing that. He
did this thing, They did the track and everything for me.
They mix, they did everything. I just rapped on it
and it came when I heard I said, damn, it
does have that Southern It does have that feel too.
When you're making music, you never know how it's gonna
come out until you finish. So it was one of
(37:57):
them things. People gonna have the analysis of it and
hopefully they all like it.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You may get record like that.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah. Just the crazy thing is the dude Raymond, that's
my Roaldy. You know.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
He was just kind of singing around, you know, and
I'm like, bro, you really you know, you really know
what you're doing. So I just started cutting songs like
that on him and you're doing they coming out and
I'm like yeah, and I'm like yeah, and that's that's fun.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
For me when it's musicianship in it, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (38:23):
And I'm like, bro, I kind of this this is
my lane right now, so you're gonna hear a lot of.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Them from me.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Bro, you said we might be getting to catch Money
No Limit tour. That's happening.
Speaker 10 (38:33):
Yeah, that could happen, could have been. Yeah, I mean
we negotiations.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Negotiating, negotiations, paid until we get that bag.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Congrat We barely got the verses. How a y'all gonna
do it?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Money, money, goodness.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Everybody we expected to see the verses will be on
this tour coming.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
We come to Breakfast Club to elevate our.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
I just remember when I heard you say. I think
it was with the drink chances somewhere. You was like,
you almost didn't do verse im.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Wait wait, wait, hold up. I'm the biggest little Wayne
fan als. I don't know if you've seen me. Our
campaign all the time is I think Wayne is the
greatest rapper of all time. I don't care who they say.
I always put him at one. You know when we
ain't on show up, you damn right. I got a problem.
You know how we gonna do a cash Money versus
No Limit and we won't have our machine, we don't
(39:37):
have our woozie with us. I was like, look, and
we ain't going to do it. I ain't doing it,
But my man Swiss Beast shot out the Swiss Beast
and Timlin. They called me and gave me along, give
me a long speech on why I should do it,
and I thought about it. I said, you know what,
I'm gonna go ahead on and do it, especially when
I found out what the reasons was my guy in
show up.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
I'm fans fans, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
But I wish we would have did it in New Orleans.
So that's why we still should be having it. We
still we still got more verses to do because it
definitely should have happened in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You swised that record after the verses.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
No, no, it was before the record.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
This is what I can't wait for.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
I can't wait for the tour because look, yo, I
was on I've never seen nothing like this I saw.
I did a couple of shows with you. I'm happyest
hell that I got to do that. But I was
at one of the stops. They had messed up your
sound and you had a lot you was headlining, so
you did like you close out the show. You were
so mad, you was like, fuck it, y'all, can just
cut it off, and you performed the rest of your
(40:37):
fella and everybody was singing with.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
You like.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
One of the guys, and everybody was crazy.
Speaker 9 (40:45):
This man performed like what nine ten songs without the
music and everybody was singing.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
I was like, oh, this is great now, see that's
what I need.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Y'all heard.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Go find my tickets. Man, I'm gonna save my damn.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Song comes out when Congratulations come out again. The twenty seventh, Yes.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Don't Say Nope album, the twenty six at twelve o'clock.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
All right, the twenty six by the twenty sixth, the
twenty sixth at midnight. Make sure you get the album
and check out their podcast. Will for the podcast. Will
appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
For doing that.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Represent for the older folks.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Man, Yeah, man, I got you.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
You got all over my sweater. You want your head
full of your ass, You're gonna find out, like yeah,
don't talking.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
About it right.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
One. You want a young nigga around on the full,
or you want to grown man, you can drop polling.
That's the one talking about.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Is Manny Fresh. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, hold.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Up every day a week, click your ass up the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
You're finished with your dumb
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