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November 17, 2025 65 mins

C&R kick off Week 11 of 'THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMM!' Surprising Bears, boring UFC, Shedeur Sanders debut drama, Bo Nix/Josh Allen bounce backs & more! Rich goes over wild AFC standings. Jamarr Chase & his spittle suspension! 'LAST ONE STANDING' gets fired up early! Covino reacts to Jake Paul/Anthony Joshua being official! Can Paul get hurt? Plus, Abdul Carter snores & they hope MNF does not!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, thanks for listening to the best of Cabino and
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by searching FSR. Like we always do things that made

(00:24):
you go, Man, it's a Monday. So many observations, Sam
hit it. Things that make you go, things that make
you go yo. Can I start up by saying, we
were at the Niners Cardinals game. My Niners looking good,
brock Purty looking good. You could say, hey, the Cardinals

(00:45):
are trash, but I'm gonna go with the Niners look good.
I was shocked at that stadium. Seventy seventy eighty percent
Niners fans. Dude, at least, you know, it was crazy
to see how many forty nine Ers fans showed up. Now,
now the scoop is there's lots of visiting fans that
come in all the time, but forty nine Ers fans

(01:05):
were there, and they were strong, and they played well
with Purdy, and it was an experience in itself. There's
so many observations from State Farm Stadium. I'd never been
there before. They had the roof open, and vibes were great,
the weather was perfect, and your forty nine ers look good.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Rich.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was shocked though, how many yards Brissett passed four
for the Cardinals. They just couldn't really get it together.
A lot of garbage yards. But yeah, Niners look good.
I think the biggest observation I have, though not even
based on the game we were at. I'm looking at
all my notes for week eleven of the NFL, and
you and I watched all the games together this weekend

(01:44):
with our buds. Can you believe after all this time
we're going you know, we're wrapping up week eleven going
into week twelve, the Bears are in first place. That's wild, right,
so good, and it seems like they're getting better and
better every week. It seems like, okay, when are we
convinced that they're just a decent team at this point?

(02:05):
It's pretty wild to see, but they're playing pretty good.
I mean, they're a team that's ahead of the Packers
right and the Lions in their division. And I don't
think anyone saw that coming. People thought, oh, maybe the
Bears could hang Last year, the expectation was through the
roof with Kleb Williams first year. But now maybe settled
in a little bit. You know, it sounds funny. And
I heard Colin Cowherd say this today when we were

(02:27):
traveling again. We were traveling from Arizona back home and
everything except Rich made a dip in Austin again. He's like,
it's pretty simple football, he said, the stars of the Bears,
they moved the ball forward.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Stars.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
They're just really good at moving the ball forward. It's
always like second down four yards, it's not second down
and twenty four yards to go. They always moved the
ball forward. They do the simple things. And he was
saying something along the line, something along lines I don't
want to misquote the great Colin Cowherd, but like it's
like how Belichick used to describe Brady back in the day.

(03:04):
He did the simple things right, and they're just moving
the ball forward and getting better each week. Not comparing
them to the dynasty of the Patriots. I'm just saying
they're doing those things right. That's what you're saying, is No,
that's not what I'm saying. They're moving the ball, yeah,
in the right direction. Yeah, they just keep and that's
the sort of their little secret sauce right now. I know,

(03:26):
but it's working for him and it is a bit
of a surprise at least to some people, but maybe
not the Bears fans, because again props to them. So
any observation from this weekend in the world of the
NFL week eleven or anything that you watched, it could
have been fight, could have been UFC three twenty two.
Like I'll just start off by saying, we went out

(03:47):
to watch that fight, and you know, when you go
out and you're amongst mixed company and there's a big crowd,
you're just hoping for that atmosphere to be involved and
hanging on every punch and just so happens. These are
like some boring fights over the weekend, Like no casual fans.
Casual fans don't want to see grappling and rolling around.

(04:10):
He just the two main events, the headliners, the women's
fight and then the dude that has no nose? Who
is that guy? Della Melanie? Yeah, yeah, I mean those
two fights were so boring that I know, the girl
that was our waitress was attractive, but all the guys
in our group were just talking about the waitress because

(04:31):
what was to talk about the lame ass fights we
watched that honestly was boring. That was not an endorsement
for you know, the people that love to say yeah,
I don't know, you know, I don't know about boxing
the UFCS. Where it's at this past weekend, I'll tell
you where it wasn't at UFC that was awful, awful, mom,
the Katchev defeats Dela Madalena Della Maddalena in a round

(04:54):
five decision, and Chefchenko beat sag in the female fight
the comin event Women's Flying. Oh wait, two boring fights.
So when you get up and you go out and
you're hoping for an exciting night, and the most exciting
thing is Bruce Buffer in the intro fighting. You know
that was the only fun part, Bruce Buffer. That's they

(05:15):
were just rolling around the whole time. And I get it,
that's part of the fight that happens is it's it's
just part of UFC. Well it it doesn't provide for
an exciting night. Cove one one observation from the fight
that look is so weak but totally terrifying and like
like intimidating. The no mustache bearded look from Islam. That

(05:37):
is like I don't know who would rock that look,
but that is like it's oddly intimidating. Though, no, that's
the that's not I'm gonna beat you look. Yeah, it's
it's safe to say if they have a name that
sounds like his, they are probably the ones who want
to put your money on. Even though I believe Della
Modelena hadn't lost in ten years or something like that. Well,
he got his ass handed to him this weekend. So

(05:58):
again UFC over the weekend A observations there, whatever it
was that you were into, we'll take your phone calls
now at eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, And
of course one of the bigger stories was Shador Sanders
making his debut because there's so many little subplots and
sub stories within that one story. Like there's like there's
like the BS sentiment that oh, he didn't get the

(06:19):
reps in practice and I don't know. And I heard
Dan Patrick talking about this on the network. I believe
with U I he was talking about former backup quarterback
Matt I think it was a hassleback saying how backup
quarterbacks don't get reps in practice, So this whole sentiment
like Poorschador, Well, let's make excuses he doesn't get the
reps in practice. Cavino, What backup gets first team reps

(06:42):
in practice? None? So stop it. Backup quarterbacks go in there,
try to pick up the pieces, try to make some
magic happen. Why we like trying to make it seem like, well,
Poorschador is not prepared. It's another like bs layer to
his whole story. I mean, but he did say he
had a crap game for sixteen. I mean, what else
could he say? Forty seven yards, one interception in a

(07:05):
loss and a twenty three to sixteen loss to the Ravens.
But he made his debut. And like I said, side
stories are so many little side stories. You got Rex
Ryan saying that he's putting on a show. We have
the quote. If you want to hear, here's what Rex
Ryan said. And I'll tell you some other things that
happened with Shador, Rex Ryan and Shaudura Sanders.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
He's got to get over himself too, you like he's
there by himself on the bench.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
At the end of the game I've never seen.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
I've seen it in the seventh game of World Series.
When you lose a game or whatever. This is a game,
is a pillow fight game. Nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Who cares? Sit back care?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Did he care?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Or are you trying to make it a show?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Make it about yourself.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
You've got a guy over there that, by the way,
is a two time MVP right there, Lamar Jackson. He
was looking for you.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
He was looking for you right there. Why didn't share
a moment with him?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
All right? All right, share a moment with Lamar. He
looking all over for you. They get in there with
your teammates. These are your teammates, all right, these are
your teammates, and talk about I'm not comfortable losing you.
Take anybody in that locker room, miss.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
So.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
He had a lot to say about how into this
team is he or is he a me guy?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
By the way, that was his brother Rob Ryan on
electric guitar there.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, funny vision. I picture that's how they
love to have. I picture Rob shredding with the long hair.
There's so many takeaways just from that game, and again
from that appearance, Dion Sanders was outspoken about it. Saying
it brought him to tears seeing his son play for
the first time, even though again it wasn't the debut

(08:37):
you wanted. But again, you have kids in the NFL,
you know, it's still an emotional moment. And then there's
another side story that he got robbed, his house got
broken into during his debut. So talking about a crazy
day of emotions for the Sanders family, Listen, I don't
want to take away the joy of Dion seeing his
kid play for the first time, because that's beautiful something

(08:59):
we all dream and you know, you'd you'd wish your
uh upon the stars and my kid plays in the pros. Right.
But Rex Ryan, while Rob Ryan or Rob Ryan was
shredding in the background, made a great point that it
really was about him. You ever date a girl where
we know women that they think they're the main character

(09:19):
and everything like, it's just it was his debut he made.
He did make it about him. But what gets lost
is their defense. Their defense is solid, so I know,
but I'm just saying like that should be the story here,
but it's not because he has a big name and
that's the circus of a shod door.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Sanders.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know what shit you know, I feel like I've
made excuses for him over the last six months to
a year, like, well, you know, it's not his fault.
He is Dion's kid, and he's got talent, and hopefully
he gets his chance and we all want to see him.
But I feel like he doesn't have the ability to
pull the Homer Simpson and just fade into the bushes
like yo, he had to sit on the bench and
have everyone larr He is by himself, moping like I

(10:00):
don't know. I just feel like we've all know those people,
men and women, but we've all dated girls, like I said,
where they need to have that main character energy. They
can never just not be the center of attention. Now,
I don't think you'll ever get that from a Shor Sanders.
And like I said, the other unfortunate side story there
is that his home was broken into during his Cleveland debut,

(10:23):
and there's no news, no updates if anything was stolen,
no suspects have been identified. But another science story about
his house break in another observation from that game. There's
so many observations about Shador will take your phone calls
eight seven seven ninety nine on fock then props to
the Cleveland Browns defense for putting up a fight, or

(10:43):
has Lamar Jackson lost some steam, lost some gas, lost
the step or something that's another question. Doesn't seem he
has the explosiveness as he had in the past. You
could say this scene for a lot of people like
Saquon Barkley, is it wear and tear? Like, what's going
on this year? Why are we not seeing that same explosiveness.
We were saying the same thing a few weeks ago
about Derrick Henry. You know, where's the explosiveness that we

(11:06):
saw in the past few years? Listen year to year,
year to year, er and tear. It could be anything. Well,
what do we see the statu You and I watched
something net footballlast night. How many big runs Saquon had
a year ago compared to this year. Yeah, like runs
of twenty or more yards and it was ridiculously wild.
How much he's fallen off? And there's so many observations. Cove,

(11:28):
I don't know where you want to go next, but
I have my biggest one of the weekend. Well, I
do want to say, you know, based on my point
of Shad Door Sanders making it about him, it's his debut.
It's going to be the conversation.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
It just is.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
But lost in that mix is a Miles Garrett with
the four sacks, right, Like their defense is legit. If
they could figure out a way to get that offense working,
the Browns aren't a bad team. So I just want
to point that out because the conversation is is it
all about sho door Sanders And it's like, we can
do that already, but but he does that, Like, all right,

(12:03):
let's say it's a pageant. Let's say it's not a
football game. It's a beauty pageant. Right, only one girl wins.
The girls that lose, what do they do? They give
their little bow, runners up, take their flowers, They walk
off the stage. If one of the girls in the
pageant decided to just sit on the side of the
stage and just like reflect and mope and tear up
a little bit, you'd be like, what is she doing?
Just it's like a reality show that people that want

(12:25):
attention you tell you could seek out and really easily
point out attentions. Is an attention seeker and he's always
been and who his dad is and that's probably part
of the reason why he fell so low in the draft.
He's that type of guy, but is he that type
of player that's yet to be seen in the NFL?

(12:45):
But the debut was made. The Chargers are broken. That's
another big story. How do you happen? Yeah, how do
you not talk about Week eleven and what we've seen
this weekend? Not bring up the Chargers and how doodo
pie they look? And how if you have any of
them on your fantasy team, which I don't give a
deadly squat amount, but that is sort of the story.

(13:05):
Today they put up zero points. I feel like the
AFC is in a really weird spot right now because
my biggest observation are there are three teams Cavino that
are on the outside of the playoff picture looking in.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I know we're only you know, most teams that play
ten or maybe eleven games right with bye weeks and everything,
we're more than halfway through. But right now in the AFC,
the Chiefs, the Ravens and the Texans are all sitting
at five hundred on the outside looking in, like if
the season were to end today and then in the
NFC just by you know, bad luck and you know,

(13:42):
have a couple of bad games. The Detroit Lions wouldn't
be in the playoffs if this playoffs started today. And
so many people started the season saying, what do you
think Lions, Ravens, maybe Super Bowl, maybe Chiefs, Lions like
those were predicted, and we're talking about teams that wouldn't
even make the postseason as of right now. So those
teams have some work to do. Or are we assuming

(14:05):
that some of these other teams just fall off or
those windows have closed really quick? And Danny g are
super producers here, he's excited for his Monday night football.
We'll talk about that, Danny G. What was the stat
we always said or we adjusted by week seven?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Eight? Yeah, last night we always you guys always said
by week six you knew, and then last year you
adjusted to week seven.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, Well, guess what. It's week eleven and we're still
trying to figure out did the windows close on some
of these teams that were good last year or that
were good in the past few years, like the Chiefs. Dude,
they're five hundred five and five. Is there a window
closed for the Lions not as good as they should be? Like?
Is that window closed too? Like there's so many teams. Yeah,
the Chargers played like cheeks yesterday and they.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Started off the season looking like a Super Bowl contender.
From week to week, this season has been wild. How
about bo Nix and Josh Allen both saying today how
you like me now? Because last week people were dumping
on both of those quarterbacks and then they both came
up big a week later.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Can I tell you Danny Steve and I were in
the uber back from the forty nine Ers Cardinals game
and we were watching the end of the Chiefs Broncos
game on my phone in the car and we got
the phone mounted and I'm like, I turned to Conveno
and I go, isn't it funny how last week everyone's like, yeah,
f bon Nix, he's done. And now all of a sudden,

(15:24):
the Broncos are gritting, had a victory over the Chiefs,
and now they're nine and two and the Chiefs are
five and five. And I said, tomorrow on Fox, everyone's
gonna be talking about how like yo, bon Nix is
just okay? It's wild week to week. Yeah, it really
is insane, none of it And we say it and
Spot rolls as eyes. We see it every year. Hey man,

(15:45):
the parody in the NFL. Right, we're seeing parody, but
we're seeing things that make no sense. This year, nothing
adds up the right way. Josh Allen, all of a sudden,
he's back after one week. He's a superstar again. He's
putting up crazy number last yesterday. So again, Rich is right.
Props to bon Nicks, Props to Josh Allen. It's not
all dumping on players. It's not all dumping on man.

(16:08):
Did you see Herbert? He's stunk. Any takeaways are good takeaways. Well,
then let me ask you, based on who's on the
outside looking in and the parody of the league, dare
i schedule watch Iowa? Sam, do you mind hitting me
up with some schedule watching. Rich loves to look at
the schedule, game schedule watch it. We talked about the

(16:30):
Bears being at first place, Covino, and that would be
something no one predicted that, you know, after week eleven,
no way that the Bears would be ahead of the Lions, Packers,
even the Vikings. With JJ McCarthy healthy, some thought they
might surprise people. So let me hit you up with
what the Bears have coming up, and you tell me
at seven and three they have seven games to go,

(16:53):
Danny G. I want to hear your opinion too. Let's
go over quickly the final seven games for the Bears.
You tell me, are they w's or l's. They're playing
the Steelers at home in Chicago. In Chicago, I'm going Bears.
I'll get you know. What we're seeing here are some

(17:13):
teams which is a little more juice like the I
don't want to put the Bears in the same category
as the Broncos, but you're seeing them play young and
strong throughout the game, where teams like the Steelers just
fizzle toward the end of the game. Like you're seeing
that age or that wearing tear, or the juice, the excitement.
I don't even know how to put it, but I

(17:35):
think they would have more more juice for that game
over the Steelers. So yeah, Bears and Eagles at Eagles,
I'm saying no to that one light. Now they're playing
at the Packers.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Are one of those week two week teams we've mentioned.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, and again a team who's still trying to figure
out what they do and who they are. Right, I'm
not buying into them at all. They're going for runs.
They end up passing no Bano for the Packers. Bro
I wouldn't put any money or hype on the Packers.
So Bears for that one. I bell right, Now you
go play the Browns, you give him another dub, right,

(18:16):
I would, unless I don't know, unless they figure out
their offense. Now they play the Packers again, do you
want to give them the most split with the Packers one
to one?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah? I would, you would? Okay, yeah, because those two
teams are going to slug it out, all.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Right, forty nine ers? No, if the forty nine ers
play the way they played this weekend again, granted it
was well, granted it was at the Cardinals, it felt
like a home game for them. Seemed like party picked
up right where he left off, and he seemed pretty
pumped about that. Kiddle played big, McCaffrey came in lan

(18:51):
in the game, he's still playing. Well, I'm going forty
nine ers on that one. And then they end the
season against the Lions in Chicago. Yeah, we'll see what
happens there. But Rich, I hate to say this to
get you hyped, but because it feels like it's anybody season,
starting to feel more like maybe the Broncos could do

(19:14):
something the Patriots could do something. I feel like the
forty nine ers are in it if if they could
play like they played yesterday. Again, I get it, it's
the Cardinals and they have a lot of missing pieces,
But if they could put it together with purty, if
the defense could play, if the defense could keep other

(19:35):
teams contained. The Niners offense still has explosiveness. When they're healthy.
You could say it. Their offense is explosive. So yeah,
they could if they could find ways to figure out defense. Yeah,
they're still in it. They're not done by any means.
I think what we learned also is that that Week
eighteen matchup with the Lions Bears. Lions Bears, that's a
question mark for me. No, but that's gonna be because

(19:58):
the Bears will likely be ten and six. Everyone WI
will probably be around the same. That will probably be
a game that means division win or playoffs or something
for sure. So circle that that is. That's gonna be
a big one. There's a few things, Remember I said,
there's a few side stories when it comes to Cleveland.
Fun times in Cleveland. Again, Cleveland, all the talk is

(20:21):
about sor Sanders. They're able to figure out their offense.
The defense is pretty decent. And something else I saw
was that Brown's tickets were going for ten bucks online.
Did I get that right? D NYG ten dollars Browns tickets.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
There were actually some that were on sale for less
than ten dollars.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
That made me say, in a world of in a
world of shrink flation and everything's so expensive. A sandwich
at the airport was thirty five dollars. You can get
Browns tickets for ten. Rich Night waited last minute to
get forty nine ers Arizona tickets. We just were at
what's his state Farm Stadium and we paid what one

(21:03):
sixty for It was an upward day, but yeah, forty
yard line. We had a big group of people with
like eight to ten guys, so it was you know,
one sixty, and we thought that was reasonable considering, right, Yeah,
ten dollars. Just got to point that out. Made me say, hmmm,
after knowing how much money we spent last minute for
those tickets. But we had a great time, and we

(21:24):
want to take your observations, rich Oh, I want to
take your observation on the parlay you had at the
end of the game. You know what, I'm so aggravated,
But before we even went to the game. I want
to make one other observation for all the people that
love college football. Our buddy Nico had one of those
futures bets where he had like this team to win
the championship and it all rides on arch manning Heisman,

(21:49):
and we're like, dude, yesterday your bet was done because
they were outclassed by Georgia. We watched that game. We
were like, come on, let's see if arch Man he
could do it. And wasn't up. Peyton was there watch
and it just yeah, it was not a good Saturday
for Texas. Sorry, it could have been a better Sunday
for you if you didn't cash out on your parlay.

(22:11):
I wanted to tell that story. My idiotic friend. We
did a prop bet together. Yea, your idiotic friend who
listens to Fox Sports Radio, Drew Mack from Nashville. Yeah,
our idiotic friend, I said, let's do let's do like
a fun prop bet together. We'll do We'll do like
a five or six layer parlay. We'll do Niners win
Kittle anytime touchdown, McCaffrey anytime touchdown. It was kittle like

(22:37):
fifty or more yards, and we needed McCaffrey just to
hit seventy yards rushing, and in the fourth quarter the
Niners started using Robinson more and you're like, oh, they're
up by like double digits. We thought that they took
McCaffrey out, though it fell for a series where it
was like McCaffrey's not really entering on many plays, Like

(22:57):
it's almost like they're gonna give the ca Robinson. In
the fourth quarter, it felt like the game was wrapped.
Why put him back in in so in our buddies defense,
So our buddy Drew's like, hey man, our twenty dollars bet,
I can get a forty eight dollars cash out. Now
on a cash out, presses the button when I tell you,
he pushes the button. That is exactly when McCaffrey decides

(23:20):
to bust open like a twenty yard run for a
touchdown and would have sealed that prop bet. So just
proving that you can never really win, even when you
do pick it, you don't You don't win, You don't win.
You know what I took away from that too, though
Purdy must be playing at one hundred percent, no doubt
about it, because why wouldn't they have taken him out

(23:41):
of the game at that point, Why wouldn't they have
thrown a mac Jones in there just to protect Purdy
because it was his debut and there might be a
little rust or maybe he is a little summer. He
must be one hundred percent. They must be one hundred
percent confident that he's one hundred percent for them to
keep him in toward the end of that game. I
was really surprised about that. Now, Cavino, Danny G, Dan Byer,

(24:01):
I know it's only wrapping up week eleven and we're
before you know, we'll be starting week twelve on Thursday.
I know there's no prop bets that you can make
going into week twelve, but I could promise you if
you would have asked anyone from Dan Bayer to Danny G,
to Dan Patrick, to Colin to stephen A to any
sports head in the world, would anyone have ever been

(24:23):
able to predict who is at the top of each
of the AFC divisions. I don't think you would have
got one of them. Cavino, the Patriots, Steelers, Colts, and Broncos.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Our very own Dan Byer did get the Broncos. Before
the show.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I'll get I'll give dB the Broncos, but I'm sorry
if I'm a Dan Byer guy, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
But but Dan Byer, I mean you're you're watching closer
than anyone doing your Sunday show and your podcasts and
all that. The AFC as unpredictable as anyone could have thought.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
No, yeah, yeah, I think you're You're right.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
And while someone would say, you know what, I think
Mike Rabel's going to instill a new culture in New England,
you're not doubled down and you know, getting double down
and say and Shane steike In and Daniel Jones turn
it around in Indye like that's just not happening.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
It's take detections and move on.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, what I jokingly was like, man, I really believe it.
Aaron Rodgers and I don't think I think the Ravens
will catch them. But even when I joked about Aaron Rodgers,
who does look old and tired, they still are in
first place though even though they don't look great. That
was laughed at when I joked about that. So when
I tell you that AFC is is a little crazy
compared to what we all thought.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
The yeah, I'll tell you the the way that the
Broncos have won the way that the Chiefs have lost.
Just in that division. Guys, you talk about the Chargers stinkers.
I mean, gosh, for all bad it was on Sunday,
it was just as good Sunday night when they were
dominating the Steelers. A little more than a week could go.
But you know that maybe a late you know, the

(26:03):
early kickoff on a Sunday for the Chargers caught up
with them. I think the Steelers had, you know, a
bone to pick with the Bengals so they can stay
atop the division. But yeah, the division leaders are crazy.
For lack of a better word, it's a really weird season.
It really is.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
And Dan Bayer, before we go to the phone calls,
let's get your update, man, the great Dan Byer, what's up,
d be.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
You guys were talking about the college football action that
you were watching on Saturday. There's some news in college football,
and the big news is multiple reports are saying that
Virginia Tech is hiring former Penn State ad coach James
Franklin to be the Hokies new head football coach. He
takes over for Brent Pry, who was fired in September.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah. CNR on FSR. You're that promo Covino the Hall
of Fame Network, DP and Colin. We got Hall of
Fame hair on Cavino on Rich. Yeah, I'm trying to
figure out, like where we fit in. Yeah, so anyway
the hair, Yeah, I'll take the hair, but I'm wearing
a hat on this Monday. It was a long weekend

(27:09):
and it's rainy here in Los Angeles. It rained all
freaking weekend here, so I was happy to be in Arizona.
Rich and I fresh from Arizona. We watched we watched
the forty nine ers win. I was saying, we enjoyed
those big cans. We enjoy those big cans over the weekend,
those big cans of Arizona iced tea. There's still ninety
nine cents when in Rome, Bro, when in Arizona, you

(27:33):
gotta enjoy yourself. We had a blast man, So any
observations you made hit us up at eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox as we wrap up something, we
call things that made you go hmm. We do it
every Monday. I promised Moe and Mitch would get through
the phone calls, Rich and whoever else wants to chime in.
We get you involved ninety nine on Fox MO. What's up?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (27:57):
So I just want to sinners apology to Brock Perdy
because when Daniel Dones was doing his thing, I kind
of suggested that maybe he might be the right cornerback.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
But once again, after the performance yesterday, sincerely apologize.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
To Brock Perdy.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
You met Daniel Jones back Jones, not Daniel Jones, right,
So yeah, I mean Mac Jones. They're saying is going
to get a lot of looks in the offseason because
they're saying the young quarterback class coming out of college
isn't that strong. So Mac Jones could find a new
home next year. But I think you saw party yesterday
and we said it Comuno just a little sharper, a
little you know, a little more mobility in the pocket.

(28:40):
And I know it was the Cardinals, but a good
soft launcher party this season since he's hardly played right. Yeah, no,
it was a great debut for sure, or a great comeback.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I should say.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, Mitch in Jersey, you're on Covino and Rich what
copping guys? Hey, buddy, what up?

Speaker 6 (28:57):
Sam Donald?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I know you have points, deceptions, always won the games.
He's a guy wish the Rays.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
Had had signed they were between seven.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
But I want them to lose tonight.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
And continue losing freedom and those sweetbacks count on this year.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I mean, Danny g your your Raiders. Do you want
them to win? Or do you want the better draft stock?
At this this juncture of the season, you know you're
not making a playoffs. So are you just hoping, like
you said, for maybe like a good game from Bowers
or genty and just some promise.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
There was a headline this morning saying did Tom Brady
tip his UH pick for quarterback next season for the
Raiders because he was praising CJ. Carr of Notre Dame. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I've never been one of the kind
of fans who subscribes to, oh, let's lose out and
get a better draft position. You don't ever want your
team to lose some bad culture.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Well, speaking of one of your team to lose, there
was a point yesterday where I was like, is Mike
McDaniel trying to lose this game for the Dolphins? You know,
they so many questionable calls, like why didn't they go
for the field goal? Like is that an analytics call?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
At that?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I would imagine right, like, why else would they do that?
They ended up getting the win anyway, and they got lucky.
But even the Eagles game, lots of questionable calls. I
want to talk about that. But back to our caller
and Sam Donald. I don't know if you guys saw
the quote from Seahawks linebacker Ernest Jones defending his QB
Sam Donald saying if you got anything to say, quite
quite frankly, f you it was cool to see him

(30:25):
have Donald's back in that moment in the press conference.
And speaking of football and speaking of great quarterbacks, Bo
Nicks pulled one out and that's time for a TIREC
Play of the day. Let's do that real quick. The
Broncos won a close one over the Chiefs.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Snap placement kick on the way and it is cut.
They don't block this one like last year in Kansas City. Yeah,
on the final play of the game, the Denver Broncos
have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs by a final score
twenty two to.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Nineteen the Kansas City Cheeks courtesy of KOA eight fifty
AM and nine to forty point one FM Broncos Radio.
And that was our TIRAC Play of the day and
Cavino that last minute field goal. It's so symbolic of
something that we're seeing in the NFL. Last year, what
happened the Chiefs blocked the game winning kick and they

(31:23):
went on to win. What we're seeing this year in
the NFL is things go the opposite way for a
couple teams that we thought were elite, the Chiefs. Every
close game the Chiefs are in now, I feel like
they're not getting to bounce, They're not getting the play.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Dah. They're both rich. They're zero to five in one
score games this season. Yeah, so last year they won
twelve games by one.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Score and Cavino, you made Danny, We've been joking about
it for years, saying that eventually the ball will not
bounce their way, and we're seeing that with the Chiefs
and with the Lions. Danny g oh for five on
fourth down tries and what were they known for like
edging out close games because they were ballsy on fourth down?
And now you're seeing that backfire. So you're seeing, like

(32:06):
you know in Vegas, when you see red or black
come up a bunch of times around, you're like, the
opposite is bound to happen, and we're seeing it this year.
But on the flip side, what we're also seeing is
things go the Broncos way, and props to them. They're
nine and two now, right, so we also have to say, okay, well,
maybe the Chiefs are just mediocre and guys like and
teams like the Broncos have turned the corner and props

(32:27):
to them. So that's our tyract play of the day.
As we wrap up things that made you go hmmm.
You mentioned questionable calls, Rich, You mentioned that the Dolphins, Lions,
Eagles too oh for six on four downs total total
oh for six again, Yeah, and there was a passive
appearance call that was a little bunk and it makes
you wonder like, should there ever be a thought of

(32:49):
I know, we don't want to do passive apperance challenges,
but under two minutes when it's such a game changing moment.
Even Chris Chris Collinsworth was losing his mind on that,
and we reaved all the benefits, all right. So we'll
wrap it up with your phone calls and feedback. Anything
that made you go hmm. Week eleven, anything UFC, some
boxing during the day overseas.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Like I mentioned before, Connor Benn with the rematch victory
over Chris U Banks really great fight. UFC not so much.
But any observations you made eight seven seven ninety nine,
Oh Fox, and save that number because we also needed
to call if you want to play last one standing? Yeah,
We're gonna play last one standing next, So if you
want in, now's the time. Any final things about things

(33:35):
that made you go hm. You know, I was talking
to Danny g Off the air Rich We were talking
about how, you know, what was the Dolphins doing in
that situation? Even though they won, right they could have
went for a field goal, they made it more difficult
for themselves. Danny g is saying that, you know, there's
a lot of hype about them possibly going on a
run and still making the playoffs with this momentum, And
are there any other like sort of four win teams

(33:56):
that you could see doing that.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
There's like one or two sports personalities out there that
are are having hot takes of the Dolphins are going
to run the table the rest of the way and
make the playoffs. It would be incredible, But they did
keep their slim playoff hopes alive heading into the buy.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Who told you, Mike McDaniel, do we have a contestant ready,
Danergy for last one Standley.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
We have a board of contestants that buyer is gonna
choose real all right, I.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Want to play. Let's let's do this. It's our favorite
game we do every Monday here on FSR.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Hit it.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
You have five seconds to battle for your sports trivia love.
Put your electronic devices down and pick your sports knowledge.
It's CNRS Last one standing.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Last one standing.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
All right, we are early with this game on a
Monday this week. I have four categories ready to go.
If needed a tiebreaker. Each contestant gets five seconds to
stay alive in the round. If you run out of
time or you answer incorrectly, Iowa Sam takes you out
with this big, bad buzzer. You don't want to hear that.
We keep battling until you are the last one standing.
If you win two of the rounds, you are the

(35:06):
top dog. Here are the contestants. Eleven time winners Steve
Cavino right over there, oh in Texas, fifteen time winner
Rich Davis.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I mean sixteen, might as well say it after today.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Come on. He's confident enough though, to beat thirty six
time winner Dan Byer.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Hello Dan, Team to play.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I'm gonna go to the studio line see who's playing
for a CNR nerve football? Idbuse you for this? Would
you love to travel to beautiful Phoenix, Arizona, South Bend, Indiana,
Corpus Christi, Texas or Lansing, Michigan.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
The guys are just in Phoenix. Let's keep the vibe going. Yeah,
let's go to Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's Virgil. I like it.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Hey, what up, buddy?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Hey, how you doing? Virgil? Welcome in. What do you
do for a living there in Phoenix?

Speaker 4 (35:52):
I'm a pipe fitter?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Oh cool? Same?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh that's what she said. Hello, I knew that was.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Coming about that versus they have the maturity levels off
the hook here all right, by the way, by way,
by the way, Spotty is the fact chair type, so
just bear with him as he checks answers. All right,
when I say your name, the clock's going to start.
First category, the new normal. You have five seconds to

(36:20):
name an NFL team whose kicker leads the league and
most fifty plus yard field goals this season. All right,
so you don't need the kicker's name, just name the
team he's on. That's easier. You have five seconds name
NFL team whose kicker leads the league and most fifty
plus yard field goals. All Right and nineteen Answers are
on the board. Nine are tied with three from that distance. Covino,

(36:41):
You're going to be a first starting right now.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Go Broncos.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
Broncos have three.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Well.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Let's yep, Rich.

Speaker 8 (36:52):
Three two Rams Rams none of the list, sorry, Buddy,
Buyer Chargers Chargers yep.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
Dicker has three. The kicker Virgil the Jaguars Jags yep.
Cam Little has three.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
Back to con Let's go Colts, Colts. Nonymal lists all
Right Buyer Cowboys. Cowboys on the list with five. Aubrey
is five, Virgil Raiders. Raiders are on the list. Carlson
has three. Buyer, what about Eagles? Eagles are on the list.
Elliott has three as well.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Got a battle, Virgil.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
The Colts were quickly another team?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Oh, the Texans.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
Texans are on the list with five Nice back to
Buyer Steelers Steelers are on the list. Boswell has seven.
Virgil the Patriots Patriots are nonimalist.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Gets that round?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Could I guess one more? Please you? Because I didn't
know the number that would be on this list? Some
have three is Eddie Pinero of the Niners. Yes, six, Yeah,
I thought it was gonna be way higher.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
Some of the other kickers and teams spotty, Oh, let's see,
Bears had three Commanders, four, Seahawks five show title seven.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
By the way, the Commanders let go of Matt Gay today,
missed two kicks in all Spain, so they let him go.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Jake Movie and dB Pinero is hurt for the Niners,
so they might be looking for a new kicker as well.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, that Titans kicker has been busy this season.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Vikings at six.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
All right, So buyer on the board, so far as
we go to the second category, just the tip of
eighty two, you have five seconds to me. You have
five seconds to name an NBA team that has already
won eight or more times this season, eight or more
wins this season so far, and Virgil, you're gonna be
at first darting right now.

Speaker 7 (39:01):
Go The sun Sons YEP have eight wins fourteen on
the board.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
By the way, Buyer.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Thunder thunder number one of thirteen rich Lakers. Lakers YEP
have Tenno, the Spurs Spurs have nine. Virgil Pistons have eleven.
Number two Buyers Bulls Bulls. Uh none the less? Well, sorry, Rich,

(39:33):
the Nuggets. The Nuggies have ten.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Coveno Warriors, Warriors have nine, Virgil the Rockets.

Speaker 7 (39:42):
Rockets have nine as.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Well, Rich.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
The Knicks.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
Knicks have eight.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Coveno man.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
Uh three two one Celtics, Celtics, Animalists, Virgil.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
The Sixers Sixers.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Not the list? Oh, Rich wins that.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Oh, yes, sixteen. There you go.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
We missed, buddy, Yeah, we missed a few.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
You missed.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
The Calves Hawks both had nine. The Bucks, Raptors, and
te Wolves all had eight. All right, so Buyer and
Rich both on the board. As we go to the
third category, the pig skin calculator, you have five seconds
to name call me. You have five seconds to name
an NFL team who leads to the league in turnover

(40:37):
differential this season. Okay, that's subtracting the total number of giveaways, interceptions,
and fumbles lost from the total number of takeaways, interceptions
and opponent fumbles recovered. Got it. Sixteen on the board.
We'll take the top sixteen. Pig skin Calculator, Covino, you're
gonna be at first starting right now.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Go Steelers. Steelers are on the list with eight.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Rich give me the question one more time. Okay, turnover
differential this season? Who leads?

Speaker 7 (41:05):
Okay, Okay, Rams, Rams yep ten buyer.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
What about Broncos?

Speaker 7 (41:11):
Broncos are nonmalists? Virgil the Brown Browns are on the
list with three Covino let's go Riches forty nine ers
here forty nine ers none of the lists not damn.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Rich Patriots.

Speaker 7 (41:28):
Patriots are on the list with we'll zero yes here
Virgins zero Yeah, they're.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Evened out, Virgil.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Uh Jaguars.

Speaker 7 (41:39):
Jags are on the list with eight back to rich Eagles.
Seagulls are on the list six nferential Virgil the Seahawks.
Seahawks nonimalist.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Oh, he predicted wow, dung out his chest and he
actually called his shoes. He just pulled a name it man,
I'm wagging his finger. That is Rich Davis's sixteenth win. Dude,
your luck, Yeah, I didn't. Virgil there in Phoenix, We

(42:12):
thank you for playing the game.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Hey, Virgil did a great job, man, thank you for
playing well. Hey, we do this every Monday if you
want to play, But tomorrow we'll be doing some more
trivia if you want to join.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Show Time of Homes Back in the House, I want
the record to show that I am on the football
database daily over the last three weeks over my frustration
on the Seahawks turning the ball over so daily. I
am on the turnover differential page, but I go right
to giveaways because that's what Yeah, I see Darnold four
interceptions yesterday.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, yes, not giving your defense enough credit.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Well, Rich, nice victory man, nice bab. Congrats to rich
on winning last one standing. Even though sort of aggravates me.
I feel like he uh he he came, showed up one.
He sort of got his rocks off and left. You know,
he didn't even like hang around and cuddle or anything.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, he's like literally rode off into the sunset with
his cowboy boots there.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, I want to take his victory away like he
just won and bounced like.

Speaker 9 (43:17):
A sound of him running riding away into the sunset.
And he did it with zero cheating today. Yes, I mean,
like that's man, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Well, over the weekend, we had a blast. We were
in Arizona. We had a good time. Then he dipped
off back to Austin. He had some other stuff to do,
and I told him we'd save the fight talk for
the second hour, because I'm not sure if Rich really
cares that much. I know he'll watch, he'll watch, but
does he care? Do you care? Is the question? Because
it seems like it's official, like Danielle official. You guys

(43:51):
know who daniel official is. Yeah, oh yo, yeah, and
it's official. Apparently. I'll believe it when I see it.
But they're saying it's happening. From the Zone to MVP
Promotions to Netflix, everybody's saying it's happening. It's official. Jake
Paul will face Anthony Joshua in a pro heavyweight fight

(44:11):
on December nineteenth in Miami. So wow, you can hate
on him all you want. When you really think about
what he's doing, it's sort of wild, Like you need
Kojones of steel to get in the ring with a
former heavyweight champ, but not just any champ. A guy
who like sort of owned the fight circuit overseas, like

(44:32):
they were begging for a Fury Joshua fight, a guy
that sort of took back the heavyweight division, a guy
that beat a Klitchko. You know, we're talking to a
mastadon that stands six foot six, two hundred and fifty
three pounds is he passed his prime? Jake Paul wants
you to know that he's in his prime, but Anthony
Joshua sort of has some battle wounds, some wear and tear.

(44:54):
He isn't necessarily in his prime, but he's not ret
hired by any means. Do I think he's gonna beat
Jake Paul? I do, and I'll tell you why. Eight
seven seven ninety nine one fox. That's the number. I
want you to chime in because it looks like it's happening. Guys,
as of today, it's official. We talked about it, I

(45:15):
believe on Thursday Friday last week, like, oh whoa, we're
here in rumors today official twelve nineteen in Miami. Here's
why I'm impressed. Let's start with the positives. Jake Paul,
say what you want, think what you want. The dude
brings a crowd. He provides for a lot of fun
nights for people. It brings people together. Fight night, yo, bro,

(45:35):
who's coming over. We're having a party. That's fun. I'm
not going to complain about that. Does it take away
from legitimate fights? I mean, he's trying to be legitimate,
but look what he's doing. He's going from Jervonte Davis.
And by the way, that fight's not happening and it's
not his fault, so we can't hate on him there, Right,
Gervonte got in some trouble. Let's just say that.

Speaker 7 (45:56):
Some legal some legal issue issues.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Gervonte David though five foot five, one hundred and thirty four,
five foot five, one thirty five. So people were saying, oh, man,
why is he fighting such a little a small fry.
How does he pick on some of his own size.
That's a weird fight, but it made for an interesting fight.
But it did sound stupid, right, but that fight's god

(46:19):
Jake Paul says. He says a way to be like, yo,
we support women. Screw that, dude, you know, we'll figure
something out. And he doesn't just pick any random heavyweight.
He picks a heavyweight who's still in the mix, a
guy that people still talk about, a big name. Like really,
I understand you might not, he might not be a
household name, but in the world of fighting, especially overseas,

(46:41):
a really big name. Anthony Joshua six foot six, two
fifty three. So did I make that clear? He's going
from a five foot five, one thirty five which he
was training for now he has to, you know, full
on train for a guy who's over a foot taller
in ways, over one hundred pounds more. That's not easy

(47:02):
to do. That's unprecedented. Who's ever done that before? Who's
trained for a guy that was a foot smaller and
one hundred pounds less? And now he's training for a
fighter and a fight that's bigger than him. So Joshua
six foot six and he's ripped. Like, if you don't
know who Anthony Joshua is, he looks like a movie star,

(47:23):
Like he looks like a guy that Rocky would fight.
He looks like a Vander Holyfield in his maybe not
his cut, but he's that Olympic level sort of fighter.
Great shape, impressive.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
He also has slurred speech like Rocky.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Well, Anthony Joshua. Let's put it in perspective. People are saying,
you know, Jake Paul, how could you take this fight?
And he's like, you mean Anthony Joshua. Yeah, he's still
in it, but you mean stiff punch trunk Anthony Joshua.
Anthony Joshua. In his last few fights, he lost two
fights to Alexander Usik in twenty twenty one. In twenty

(47:56):
twenty two, then he won three or four more. He
beaten Ghanu like convincingly, but then he lost again in
twenty twenty four. Remember and Ghanu not a real boxer,
but Daniel Dubois sort of whooped his ass knocked him
out in his last fight in the fifth round. So

(48:17):
he was knocked out by Daniel Dublas in twenty twenty
four in England. And we've seen him sort of rattled
and off his rocker and like you said, Danny g
just saying a little too much, grabbing the mic, a
little punch drunk, Anthony Joshua is not the same guy
that he was. So Jake Paul is seeing this as
a vulnerable opportunity. And Jake Paul's great at sherry picking

(48:39):
those guys that he thinks he could beat. But let's
put it in perspective once again. The biggest guy that
I know that Jake Paul fought is Tommy Fury, because
that was a full on guy his size, and Tommy
Fury was only six foot on point eighty five. That's
the brother of Tyson Fury, and Tommy Fury is no
like threatning the head division. And guess what, Tommy beat

(49:02):
Jake Paul. So, just like styles make fights and we
see it in the NFL, just because this team beat
that team doesn't mean that team will beat this team.
Same thing does apply in boxing, right, That's where we
get this from, styles make fights. Just because Tommy Fury
beat Jake Paul doesn't necessarily mean that Jake Paul will

(49:23):
lose to Anthony Joshua. But I'm pretty certain he will.
I don't think he's gonna go from losing Jake Paul lost.
I don't think he's gonna go from losing to Tommy
Tommy Fury, who's essentially sort of a no name in
the heavyweight division in boxing for the most part. He
was a reality star who fought and had a fighting name,

(49:44):
and I wish him the best, but he's not like
a great boxer. So if he lost to Tommy Fury,
who's significantly smaller than Anthony Joshua, you you mean to
tell me, You mean to tell me that Jake Paul,
as ferocious and as heavy punching as he is, and
as as he has a set of weight wofs made

(50:06):
of steel, like we said, is gonna beat even if
he's punched drunk and Anthony Joshua, who's six foot six,
two fifty three and who has battled the biggest heavyweights
in the game. Dude, he's fun. Everybody that's available. Like
I said, he shared the rounds, He shared the ring
with Klitch Ghos. The only guy he didn't fight really
for the most part was Tyson Fury. That was the

(50:29):
dream fight. Could still happen when he wins. Do you
think Jake Paul has a shot? Guys, we've doubted him
before and he's come through. He's impressive, But you think
he's going to be a goal a former gold medal,
former heavyweight champion in Anthony Joshua, I have to give
that a resounding Rocky Balboa Absolutely, No, not happening. It's

(50:52):
not happening. And then here's the silver lining. He proved
to everybody that he's not scared to take a punch.
He's not scared to get in there with a heavyweight,
bona fide heavyweight, former champ. He's not scared to trade
punches with a guy like that. And if he shows up,
it's a moral victory for Jake Paul. So even if
he loses, he still wins. So he's willing to take

(51:14):
that fight and it's a payday for Joshua. Can't blame
him for taking it? Is it beneath him the payday?
Isn't I'm surprised it's not happening in England. It is
happening in Miami, So again your thoughts. It's official as
of today. Is this a classic case of Anthony Joshua
being punch drunk, being vulnerable past his prime and Jake

(51:39):
Paul seeing that and thinking he could capitalize Or is
this Jake Paul biting off a little more than he
could chew and maybe he cherry picked a little too hard?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Isn't this? Isn't this how the cycle was going to go?

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Like at some point, like Jake Paul just couldn't fight
a bunch of randos is not the word, but you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Well it was he was bouncing around from you know,
the Nate Diaz is of all the smaller boxers to
who else did he fight? Mike Mike Perry? He fought, Yeah,
he fought a bunch of it is Rando's Julios sar
chivits junior. You know it was the last fight that
he won.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
Like, isn't this like this it had to go at
this point because otherwise you're not getting any value for
what you're presenting. So if he loses, and I've and
I've always felt that the Jake Paul draw is watching
him hopefully get his face beat in. I think he
understands that as well. Yeah, right, like in that angle

(52:37):
of it. But if he's not, if it's not happening
against certain randos, or or even if it is, there
isn't the true nature of it, Like it was always
going to come to this point. So whether it's Anthony
Joshua or someone else, someone had to at least fight
Jake Paul because otherwise there doesn't seem to be much
of a reason on why Jake Paul was doing what

(53:00):
he was doing.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Well, the thing is, here's my surprise, and I completely
agree with everything Dan Meyer said. Right, this was bound
to happen. I thought we'd get like a more of
a cruiserweight name, more of a Canelo level, not even Canelo,
but of that weight class, you know, one sixty eight,
one seventy five pound fighter. He went straight to hey,
he went from one thirty five. Oh, by the way,

(53:21):
here's a little caveat that I'm reading by the way.
Let me give the proper source here. Here's the surprise
that he went from a smaller fighter in smaller fighters
to a full on bona fide heavyweight. I'm reading here
that there is some sort of weight clause where Joshua

(53:41):
can't weigh more than two forty five. So that's a
little My wife gave me that weight clause. Also, Enny
g you got to abide by that or you can
you can't participate, and that would be his lowest just
fifty pounds away. That would be his lowest since the
USIK loss in twenty twenty two. So now you're putting

(54:04):
a bit of a weight clause because I think Anthony
Joshua walks around at two fifty five ish or whatever.
So he asked the way below two forty five because
you know Jake Paul's one ninety, you know, two twenty
at the most in between that range. But I want
to take a look at the last four fights just
to prove what Dan Byer was saying is true. His
last four fights, he fought Ryan Borland TKO, Mike Perry

(54:25):
TKO exactly, and then he fought Mike tythe in. Everybody
remembers that was that even a fight we don't even know.
That was an eight round unanimous decision. And then he
fought most recently in June Julio se Sarchavis Junior, and
now is sort of a weird fight, you know, again,
very odd, very random, unanim's decision victory. Anthony Joshua has

(54:49):
fought real solid heavyweight contenders. He fought Usick twice and lost.
But he fought Usick, He Daniel do want. That guy's
no joke, right, So he's in the ring with sharp
and heavy punching heavyweights to him. If he loses to

(55:11):
Jake Paul, that's a joke. If he loses to Jake Paul,
Anthony Joshua retires, that's the end. So I think when
you have that much on the line and you came
with that sort of stature and that pedigree of a
gold medal winner heavyweight champion. You know, he was like
the pride of Britain for years, there's no way in
the world this guy loses. And that's that's my take

(55:33):
on it. That's it.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Do you think that Jake Paul could get hurt?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
One of the headlines, Yeah, you don't play boxing, yo.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
One of the headlines This Morning, boxing legend warns Jake
Paul could get killed in Anthony Joshua fight. Boxing icon
Amer Khan has weighed in on the upcoming fight. He
says that he wants to give Jake Paul warning that
this could turn into a dangerous mismatch, and then he
talks about how he thinks it could.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Be bad to go back to what dB was saying before.
That's why I'm surprised that he's willing to get in
a ring with a guy this strong and this big.
I thought he would have at least climbed the ladder
a little more and fun of guy, like like a
mere con or something.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Yeah, but this is this is you know, let's walk
the tight rope across the Grand Canyon. You know, the
best of tight ropers say, don't do it. You could die.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
That's what that like?

Speaker 5 (56:24):
That like comment that that feeds into this of the
reason on why then you would buy the fight and
watch the fight. And I'm not saying that people are
subscribing and trying to pay up the money for faces
of death or.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Or you know or whatever.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
But when you have people and fellow boxers making those comments,
I don't take that as like analysis. I take that, well,
that's a way to try to get people to watch
this thing, to think that there is some sort of
danger in it, when really, to your point about the
Mike Tyson fight, I don't think that. I don't think

(56:58):
that there is I don't think that that's what this is.
I don't think that's what the whole Jake Paul thing is.
That Jake Paul didn't get into this to die in
the ring, and so like to me, like I hear
something like that, like that just adds to the hype
of why you would want to buy it, but never
really was a part of it at all, Like that,
Jake Paul's not going to die in this fight. He's

(57:19):
not going to get hit, He's not going to die
in this fight. That's not what it's going to.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Feel you're saying a little bit though, Dan and I
agree with everything you're saying, but it feels like you're
saying that it could be not fixed. Yeah, it's exactly
what I'm saying. A wink wink sort of deal, right
where it's a show. We're all getting paid, we're putting
on a show, but who wins that show?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
The whole thing is a show. All of it's been
a show.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, I hate that, though, you know, you might be right,
and there's a lot of people that feel that way,
and I'm glad. That's why I'm glad you.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Brought it up.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
But there's a part of me that's that doesn't want
to believe that.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
But this is Netflix. Does that make you feel any different?

Speaker 5 (57:55):
It makes me feel like it's more of a show
because it's on nothing. Yeah all right, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
But I mean that's not con having to sell pay
per views though, I mean, how many of us have Netflix?

Speaker 1 (58:08):
To me, that feels like there's con believing this is
a legitimate and real fight. But there's always gonna be
the naysayers, and I can't say they're wrong. I can't
say you're wrong, Dan Byer, because I don't know, you know,
when there's that much money on the line, Hey, look,
maybe there is an agreement, maybe there is an understanding.
I hate that. I hate that being even a possibility,

(58:28):
but of course it is.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
David Blaine's gonna sit in an ice cube.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
We spoke with a guy who's lived in Antarctica and
says that he's got max three hours. Can he last
four days? Find out that's what it is. Find out December.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
What is it? December nineteenth in Miami on Netflix?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Again?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
What are your thoughts? I don't think if this is
a real fight. I like to believe that it is.
Jake Paul has proven a lot. He's taken it serious.
I give him all that credit. But if it is
a real fight, I don't think he has a shot
at all. If he looks decent against a guy like this, again,
is still a good look at moral victory?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Can I can?

Speaker 5 (59:10):
I ask this because I'm not saying that the work
that Jake Paul has done is a joke.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I'm not trying to discredit any of that.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
But if he wanted to be a boxer, wouldn't he
have gone up in the ranks of what normal boxers
would do?

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yeah, he was putting on shows. Yeah, what's the most
intriguing plot? What's the most that's true? I mean it's
a great point. He sort of did it his own
way for that reason to sell tickets and to get
pay per views or buys or deals with Netflix. Hope
all your team's won, and I hope you're excited for
Monday night foosball. But speaking of football is a few stories,

(59:52):
but this one I find to be interesting. Abdual Carter
of the Giants, the New York Football Giants. This duel
Carter was bench for the Giants opening series Sunday because
the rookie was asleep at the team facility and missed
the recent walkthrough. A source told ESPN, I believe athletic

(01:00:13):
also recording, and Carter didn't play during the opening defensive
series in the Giants home loss to the Green Bay Packers.
The linebacker took accountability after the game for the incident
which happened.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So no, but he says he wasn't asleep. He says
he was doing recovery. Nonetheless, that's on me. And then
later he posted on x when the hate don't work,
they start telling lies.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
The hate don't work. I've always said that they start
telling lies. So I'm duel Carter is just a rookie dude.
The word is that he fell asleep. He's saying, nah, not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Just any rookie dude. He's a high draft pick, he's
a top draft pick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
But falling a sad look. Even if he was getting
some treatment and he fell asleep during the treatment, maybe
that's kind of understandable. No. I mean, maybe why did
anyone weak his ass up for he's at the facility, Like, hey, dude,
you got to get out there. If he's there, why
didn't anyone look for him to get him. That's another
weird part of the story that I'm not following. I mean,

(01:01:11):
it's no one's job to look out for this guy
in that way. But Yo, guys, if I ever fell
sleep in a kitchen over here because I had a
rough night or someone was giving me a massage, I
would assume that Dan Byer would be Yo, Cavino, it's
almost showtime.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
Yeah, because we've worked together for a while. But if
you're the new kid on the block, or you're the
first round pick, the first of all, the thought that
like all fifty three players are going to be friends
in a locker room is one that I think people
always that is true.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Think of it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
It's like, it's not, well, you probably have like about
six guys maybe your position group as it is, and
there are veterans in his position group that should have
but it's maybe those veterans aren't interested in necessarily helping
him out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Points out that reality, You're right, Like I'll tell you
I was shocked when I found out that not all
players know each other's name on the team, Like you
would think that as a kid too. You just assume
they're a team. So you just assumed your whole life
that they all know each other. And there's a lot
of times where they don't know each other at all. Yeah,
you know the defense offense. Maybe it's a rookie like

(01:02:09):
you said, or a player that was just a choir.
They don't even know that guy yet.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Yeah, and there's another thing I play here. So we
talked about like why the Giants made the move that
they did in firing Brian Dable and promoting Mike Kafka
but also keeping Joe Shane. I think that Mike Kafka
has a legitimate shot at keeping this job full time.
What does he do he makes the change to Jamis Winston.
They have a chance to beat the Packers yesterday if

(01:02:34):
there was an interception in the end zone, they had
to lead in the fourth quarter. If their first round
pick is sleeping late and not making it the meetings
on time, put your foot down, show that you have
control of that locker room. So that's responsibility of a
new head coach trying to prove his worth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
So it's a conflicting story. I don't even know who
to believe. So again Abdul Carter, again Ben and so
he was bench. He said he took accountability. They're saying
he was sleeping. He's saying I was getting treatment. So
that's not the case. He's saying that's not true at all.
They're making up lies. Why would they be making up
lies about their high draft pick, their rookie player. Why

(01:03:14):
would they want to build this reputation around a guy
like this?

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
But is mercury in retro grade? Have you ever heard that?
By the way, is mercury in retro grade? Because a
lot of my friends, this is a true story that
on a personal level, have been oversleeping where they've never
slept before. My brother, get this. My brother was a
no show at one of his appraisals. My brother's an appraiser.
He was a no show the other day and his

(01:03:39):
boss called me up. His boss is an old friend
of mine, but still called me up. I was like, Hey,
where's your brother at It's not like him to not
show up. I was like, what do you mean he
didn't showup? Because didn't show up for a job. I
contacted my family. He wasn't answering the phone for hours.
My parents, my family, everybody freaked out and thought the worse, like,
oh my god, either died in his sleep, gotten an accident,

(01:04:04):
or the dummy overslept. And sure enough, luckily, thankfully he overslept.
And he's like, oh my god, bro, nobody woke me up.
It's like those responsibility is that? And then that happened
to three other people I know, like in the same week,
and now I'm here in this story, so I'm like,
what the hell's going on? Wake the guy up.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
Keon Coleman to the Bills was a coach's decision, inactive
on Sunday because he missed a team meeting on Friday.
Some say he was late. One report said he was late.
Another said that he missed it entirely. But it's not
the only one. And if you're the Bills trying to
fight for a playoff spot and trying to go to
a Super Bowl, Keon Coleman would be a big part
of playing against the Buccaneers. Now, as it turns out,

(01:04:43):
Josh Allen didn't need him, but that's that's I don't
say it's the risk you take. But that's what you
have to do, is you have to make these decisions
whether they're going to help or hurt the football team,
because it's a bigger, bigger picture sort of deal.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
And it's been like an ongoing sort of theme because
just last week we talked about one of our colle
leagues that fell asleep on the set and when we
were doing TV in New York, and he got fired
from it as a result. Yeah, no, it clearly it
was a boring show. So don't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Think calling him out. I've been guard about it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Didn't we called him out, but playfully makes you think
of the things you slept through. Makes me think of
that Dwight good and Terrible Dwight Goodin' story where he
missed the parade. Remember he missed the parade in eighty six. Well, anyway, it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Makes me hope that we get a lot of offense
at least tonight, so we're not falling asleep during Monday
night football.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Exactly. Good luck to your raiders, Danny. Anything we're looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
The over under from Vegas is fifty right now, let's
let's pray for the over all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Right, Enjoy your Monday night football. See you in a
promised land.
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