April 12, 2024 • 24 mins
The OJ Simpson story. Feds say Shohei Ohtani’s ex-interpreter Ippei Mizuhara stole $16MIL. Did Shohei really have no knowledge? How safe are we when we step on a plane? Firearms intercepted, hundreds bypassing airport security and fake boarding passes.
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You're listening to Bill Handle on demandfrom KFI AM six forty. You are
listening to the bill Handle show whatthey do in your face all the time
they want to take you, pleasethe backstad of us. This is KFI
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AM six forty Bill Handle. Here. It is a Friday morning, April
twelfth. Now, yesterday we gotthe news master matter of fact, on
this show, news broke that OJSimpson had died at seventy six of prostate
cancer, and he had died theday before. Is I think when he
actually did pass away, and hisfamily wrote and posted his obituary if you
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will. Now you can look upall of his his history, his stats.
That one's easy. He's go toWikipedia or whatever. What you can't
look up is what Petrose and Iare going to talk about next two segments,
and what I had and asked MarkFurman to do, which he did.
Petro's personal relationship with Oj me orI had a personal relationship with Mark
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Furman, which I'll tell you abouta little bit later on next segment.
And then at the end of thesegment or in the middle of it,
something that if you were around twentyeight years ago, just as I was
starting this show about you. We'vebeen getting emails after emails to repeat what
we did. I will do that. Yeah, exactly. What about all
those lawyers? I mean, you'resuch a lawyered up guy. What about
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Marcia Clark and Don I didn't know. I was not interested. I couldn't
care less, No, couldn't careless. No. Well, this show.
It's kind of weird that he went. Also, Barry Shick weird that
he went to the OJ side too. He's head of the innocence project with
the DNA, and by the way, the DNA proved and the blood evidence
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proved that OJ did it. Itwas just it was a chain custody issue.
But anyway, I want to talkabout Petros and his relationship with OJ,
and I'm going to let just gofor it. Well, I mean,
I don't know what avenue you wantto start with. My father played
football with OJ Simpson in the sixtiesat USC and then opened a relatively well
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a very popular restaurant down in SanPedro, California, so popular that people
from outside of San Pedro all overthe place, movie stars and all kinds
of weirdos would patronize it. SoOJ was often at the restaurant and I
saw him all the time. Iserved him and Nicole when I was a
kid. I served him. InPaula Barbieri. There was a big private
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party for the patriarch of the Kardashianfamily. They were a San Pedro tuna
cannery family that made money with theWorld War II contracts like many did down
there. And the patriarch at theKardashian family, he has never been on
TV, was actually John McKay,the head coach at USC's personal secretary in
the sixties, and that was therelationship with Robert Kardashian, his little brother,
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and OJ, the guy that youknew from the trial. So all
these people were intertwined through Uscy BruceJenner was down there, Bruce at the
time, and that old tennis ballhead Chris Jenner, all those people.
So it was pretty amazing when themurders happened, and immediately like it's happened
with me. And if you havea teammate that's accused of something, you
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know, all of us guys thatplayed football like my dad, they thought
OJ was innocent. And there wererumors that OJ was trying to contact somebody
right before the slow speed chase.Maybe a couple of days to find an
uncharted boat in sam Pedro to gethim out of the country. And around
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the time of the what was aFriday night, right at five o'clock,
the slow speed chase happened, andwe're all sitting at my dad's restaurant watching
on a tube TV like the otherwhat was it forty million Americans at the
time you were talking about last hourand my dad, who's a high strung
Greek man, an old USC linebackers, started saying, he's coming here.
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Clear out the walk in freezer.So we all ran and started clearing the
pickled doc to Puss and all thestuff out of the freezer to I guess.
Once he got on the one ohfive, we thought he was going
to come down the one ten southand we were going to hide OJ in
the walk in and put him ona boat. Of course, you know
that never happened, but I rememberin the moment feeling like that was really
gonna happen. And then the otherweird part about it was that guy Gascone
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was there all the time, thecommander that said OJ was a fugitive of
justice. Lance Edo was eating atthe restaurant all the time, before,
during, and after the trial.Marcia Clark was often there, and it
was an OJ place in a USCplace before that, so all of that
just made it really fascinating. Soin the moment, what kind of guy
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was Oj? On a personal level, He's like Magic Johnson if you've ever
been around, Like not that Magicmurdered anybody, but like when he would
walk into a room and smile,it was disarming and he would light up
a room like literally, which iswhy he did all those commercials because he
was the most likable guy. HisQ rating was just completely insane. Hurts.
It was the best thing Hurts everdid was to hire him. Their
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their sales went through the roof goOj. Go kind kind of guy was
he? You know? Did hedid her Garius? You know? I
mean sometimes at the restaurant, he'dgo to the bathroom thirty times, if
you know what I'm saying. Uhso, you know, but you know,
he was a Hollywood guy, andthe whole USC football player going Hollywood
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was not. He was not thefirst. It was Frank Gifford, who
was a gigantic star and became anNFL Hall of Famer and was also a
West Coast guy. From Bakersfield,So Frank Gifford, who used to be
married to Kathy Lee, remember allthat. Sure, he was like the
first US Saint crossover star. OJ. Stardom came from USC and Holly
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would in LA and then it perpetuatedafter his football career. He was a
great pro football player, But itwas the cult of personality in the city
of Los Angeles and that marriage thatcreated this juggernaut and then of course the
fall from grave. Yeah, ona personal level, was he fairly magnanimous?
Was he? Did? He havean insane ego? And he goes,
basically, I'm OJ Simpson, eventhough he didn't say that, was
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that part of his persona? Ithink there was probably an amazing sense of
entitlement around, you know what,everything. But you know, as a
kid, I mean I was ateenager throughout the time that I you know,
and I was a football player.So being around O. J.
Simpson was like being around you know, Tom Brady or anybody like that.
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It was it was like being arounda god, a deity of sorts.
Right until the murders happened, youreally didn't think anything of it, and
then you started hearing, well thisthis guy had a very dark side,
and this, this, this,and this happened and it all started to
make sense. Yeah, and justfor the record, about Petros, by
the way, he was probably inhigh school, one of those sought after
football players, just one of thegreat great players in high school. And
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then he went down. Not Scottwell, but it's close, and then
Scott I was a scholarship football player. Yeah, this is worth listening to,
by the way, on demand,because Petros had this relationship with OJ
and the crowd that he hung outwith. My relationship was with Mark Furman,
the police officer who was at thecrux of the decision for the jury
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to rule to decide innocence or notguilty, not innocence And it was going
to happen anyway, but Mark Furmanregarding the N word, and he was
convicted of perjury because he said onthe stand he didn't use it, and
then they proved that he did,and boom, he got it. He
was a felon, became a felonbecause of that. Okay, so now
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backstory, how did I know MarkFurman? Marjorie was carjacked a couple of
years before the before OJ and hewas and the detective assigned to her case
was Mark Furman. And the guywho robbed Marjorie and took the car at
gunpoint happened to be a black Eye. And by the way, that is
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part of the story, so Iwant to share that with you. And
they eventually caught him nine months later. They caught him, Marjorie. They
had fingerprints. There was a databaseat that time. He called his mother
on Marjorie's cell phone. I mean, they had him to write. So
they catch him and there's a lineupand Marjorie goes, and I'm sitting Furman,
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Marjorie at the lineup in the likeauditorium, I'm behind them, and
the Marjorie's to identify him in thelineup, and there was two guys.
She couldn't. She goes, Idon't know, you know, I don't
know who is it? Is it? Number two's at number five? And
she sort of whispers to Mark,and Mark knew who he was, so
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which one is it? No onewould be able to hear if he would
just whisper or her number two.And he said, Marjorie, we don't
do that, and only I wouldhave heard that. He goes, you're
going to have to identify him,sure yourself. She identified the wrong person
by the way. No, yeahshe did, but it didn't matter.
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They had such overwhelming evidence and peoplemake mistakes, so that he at the
preliminary then you have to bring herup. And then he pled guilty because
they had him to right. Sohe got six years, did three from
good behavior, and out he goes. But she was so traumatized at that
point. So there is you know, that's Mark Furman's this racism quote.
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And as far as the end word, there wasn't a cop that worked in
South Central, which he did foryears that didn't use the word. So
now Furman, because I became friendswith him, or we socialized or we
knew each other and we talk allthe time. Because as he was being
the guy who was being chased down, I had him on the show,
interviewed him and he wouldn't do veryfew interviews after the case. And what
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we used to do in those dayswere parody songs, which you can't do
anymore here on the station. Theywere brilliant. Oh they were. Yeah.
It was Ken Gallagher, Paul T. Wall who would put them together.
Tim Kelly would put them together.I mean they were brilliant and do
you have an ear for music?Yeah? I do, And so anyway,
a lot of Well, first ofall, play the ballad, would
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you kno? Because this is thestuff that was coming out like crazy,
just for a second, if youhave it, well has a breadwood condo.
Here's a young wat fans, particularlybecause the friend of Suman. Yeah,
that's time. I just went andintroduced you sort of as a backstory.
And then we did Mockarina songs thatwere the parodies of the Mockarina songs,
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uh it because that was going onat the time, and one Macarina.
So yeah, but they did allkinds of parodies. Uh, let's
play the kind of stuff that wasgoing around. If you have just general
Macarena kono remember that. And sowe took that song and made parody after
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parody after parody, just in general. And then we got or I got
Mark Furman to do a Mark Furmanparody song. So we're gonna play that
right now. This is Mark Furman. Every time I hear my name,
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it's always to get the blamer.They say the word I used helped to
free the juice. I'm marked formana usday word for status J to the
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N word, I was no stranger. Doesn't mean the evidence is rearranged.
I'm haunted daily memories of that,Lee Bailey. I'm marked from Manna juicy
word O J killed run Go Maina. Now I'm the one on Go Basia.
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I would have loved to never haveseen that glove. I'm marked for
Mana that we got Mark to doon this? How does that exist?
How does that exist? How doesthat not? How does that thought?
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The intro to your show every singleday, isn't that I'm mark for Mana?
Yeah that was Mark. I wishI would have never seen his glove.
And what a song? I wantto hear it again. Well what
lyrics I'll send it to you.I think Tim Kelly wrote those are King
gall and I Have No Stranger.Yeah, it was that's Mark. And
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this was when he was requested,I mean the request for him to do
interviews. He wouldn't do him.That doesn't mean the evidence is rearrange,
all right, Petro, How didhe look at the lyrics and be like,
Okay, he's fine. You knowwhat he used to do? By
the way, after he went heleft retired from the police force and went
up to Standpoint, Idaho, wherehe still lives. He would take a
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cassette of that song and others parodysongs that we did Oja, et cetera.
He would go into a bar andask the ball of bartender to play
the song, and people knew whohe was. He could not buy a
drink for three years that he wouldnot let him buy his own drink.
All right, guys, we areokay. Now let's switch gears and talk
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about what's happening with the show HeyOtane Otani? And yeah, look at
where my head's going with is thatpronounced ep? Okay? We know the
story of Misuhara who was charged yesterdaywith the bank fraud, and I mean
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the amount of money that he stole, which is the allegation now from show
Hey Otan is just astronomical. Originallyit was four million dollars, it was
reported. Now it's sixteen million dollarsfrom Otani and the FEDS. The Attorney
General, not the Attorney General,the US attorney in Los Angeles looks at
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Otani as simply a victim. Sohere is where I want to go.
Because first of all, the conspiracytheorists already started that Otani knew all about
it was part and parcel of thegambling and number two, a lot of
talk about his legacy because he ison his way to being a ballplayer that's
going to be compared to Babe Ruthprobably already is. And so is he
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that good? Let's start with that. Yeah, he's he's a generational talent
that no one has ever seen anythinglike this before in modern baseball. A
guy that can pitch at that highof a level and hit the way he
hits. He's the best hitter inbaseball right now. He's the best hitter
in baseball. He's not pitching thisyear because he's coming off of Tommy John
surgery, but he is hitting ata at an unbelievable clip. He's a
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unicorn. He has a baseball unicorn. And he's a very private There's a
lot of mystery that shrouds that heshrouded in before and after this. And
he he's just a different entity tohave on your team than anybody's ever had
before. So you add this intrigueand it does. It is interesting,
but I think some people have alreadyeven forgotten about it. As far as
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Arvi. Yeah, and that's thequestion because you heard for a second,
how is it that sixteen million dollarscan be stolen from you and not and
you not know about it? Andfrom what we understand, missuhura best friend
interpreter control the bank accounts, wasable to take the money, And how
is it that agent managed how isit that Otani didn't know? And I
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believe it because here's a guy whodoesn't care much about money that sixty minute
piece we were talking about, andthat he was interviewed, money just wasn't
an issue. He doesn't think inthose terms. So you trust a guy
who runs your money and you knowwho pays attention, and I think that's
what happened. Well, look,when when the story first came out,
and I think I was on theair with you when the story first came
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out, it did not smell rightas far as Otawni was concerned. I
mean, just looking at it,how this guy was embedded with the angels,
all those different things, knowing theway sports betting works, who would
give an interpreter a forty million dollarmarker? You know, all of these
different things that kind of raise questions. And there's still a lot of conspiracy
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theories and questions out there. Butthe more you look at this story and
the more you read up on itand what you see, what the FEDS
found, and the text messages theyhave from this guy EPA to the book
maker, it looks more and moreplausible that Otani's totally a victim here.
And the numbers I mean are astronomical. I mean it's hard for people to
wrap their Yeah, you know thisguy who he's thirty nine years old and
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according to complaint, he averaged twentyfive bets a day from ten dollars to
one hundred and sixty thousand dollars perbet. And here it is total winnings
of one hundred and forty two milliondollars over three years. For you one
a fortune, he lost one hundredand eighty three million dollars. It's it's
he's sewed forty million dollars. Sohow do you are That's the that's the
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one lingering question in my mind.And Otani definitely is a different kind of
guy. But how do you havea bff that you're with literally twenty four
to seven, traveling all around theworld and you don't know that he's betting
millions of dollars? Dozens of timesa day. It's the highest bet I
think was something like two hundred thousand, and the lowest bet was ten dollars.
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Yeah, that's unbelievable. I mean, that is unbelievable that they won
that ten dollars bet. That's veryI mean, you're right, a marker.
How does he get to be thatfar south. Well, if you
start betting and paying over a courseof two three years, you're gonna get
more and more credit than the markers, and at some point it basically becomes
a Ponzi scheme. And I thinkthat's where he's at. I think it
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gets to the point where the bookhe's like rooting for you. Pretty bad
for this guy, and the textmessages are pretty remarkable and damning. All
Right, Petros, thank you.We'll see you again on Monday, Monday
and Wednesday. Thank you for havingme. I appreciate everybody. And don't
forget Petros and Money. Petros's showwith Money weekdays three to seven pm AM
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five seventy LA Sports and on Xhe's at Petros and Money. Petros,
thanks again, We'll see you onMonday. Take care. I'm Mark from
I. All right, A littlebit of flim there Okay, quick story
about going to a US airports andyou go, you know, the checkpoints
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are pretty thorough. I get pissedoff all the time, and I'm occasionally
I'm grab for the random search andyou sit there and you tap your feet,
you go yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. You can
do the explosive checks, et cetera. Well, it turns out hundreds of
people last year were able to sneakthrough. Now just hundreds. So it
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made a big deal of that yesterdayand made the national news and oh shock,
oh shock. You know, keepin mind, though, what is
it eighty million, one hundred millionpeople are go through the checkpoints every year,
and out of that you have afew hundred people that have sneaked through.
Yeah, I know you're right,and it only takes one, But
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how do you not have one outof one hundred and twenty million doing anything?
So it's that's a little problematic.And when they do, when they
find out that someone has snuck through, they shut down the airport. I
mean that terminal is shut down andeverybody's evacuated until they figure out that it's
safe. Now here's something maybe evenscarier, and that is over fifteen hundred
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firearms were intercepted at US airports checkpoints. Fifteen hundred. Oh, I guess
what, I'm sorry, fifteen hundredin the first quarter of twenty twenty four.
That's at the rate of six thousand. No, we're right, So
your chances have just gone up prettydramatically that someone is bringing a firearm.
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Okay, are they loaded? Ninetythree percent were loaded with AMMO caught at
checkpoints. Now, are you allowedto bring a firearm on an airplane?
You are. Federal law allows youto do it, However, not at
security checkpoints, loaded or unloaded,not in a secure air of the airport,
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not in the passenger cabin. Obviously, even if you have a concealed
carry permit, because oh, Ihave the constitutional right to do this,
and I live in a free carrystate. Right open carry state when like
Florida now doesn't matter. The firearmhas to be packed properly and as checked
luggage, declared at the ticket counter, which means you can't do one of
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those ticket lists go to the kiosk. You have to go to the counter
and say I have a firearm inmy baggage. It has to be secured.
Secured means of course, unloaded andlocked in a hard sided case,
declared ammunition not allowed in the carryon. Obviously allowed in check baggage,
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but it has to be properly stored. It has tonot be in the firearm.
Of course. Now the TSA isnot an enforcement agency, by the
way. They don't confiscate or seizefirearms. What they do is they call
the cops and then the cops comeover and if it is let's say,
the cop decides I'm not going todeal with this because as in our state
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you're allowed to carry arm firearms,they'll call the FEDS. They'll call the
feds end and pretty stiff findes.Arrests are possible to do this. I've
noticed when it comes to security.You know, as a kid, I
actually was able. As a teenager, I was able to get into a
cabin while the airplane was in theair, literally get into the cabin.
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I remember flying in Brazil and Imade friends because I speak Portuguese and here's
an American speaking Portuguese. So Iwas just talking to the co pilot and
he goes, come on in,and there we were, you know,
flying along. Sure, or Itried to get into a cabin today as
a guest. Right when the pilotdecides he's going to go to the restroom
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or the co pilot, which ofcourse the restroom is right next to the
entry door of the cockpit, theybring the cart out and block the aisle,
so you have to jump over thecart to get into the cabin or
attack one of the pilots. Soanyway, it's changed. Life is changed,
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you know, for the better.Who the hell knows, as far
as I'm concerned, nothing's for thebetter. It used to be bad,
it's gotten worse. The good olddays really weren't the good old days?
You know that they were the badold days, only to be beat by
the bad todays. All right,that's enough of my philosophy on life.
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AM six forty Bill Handle. Here. It is a Friday morning, April
twelfth. Now, yesterday we gotthe news master matter of fact, on
this show, news broke that OJSimpson had died at seventy six of prostate
cancer, and he had died theday before. Is I think when he
actually did pass away, and hisfamily wrote and posted his obituary if you
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will. Now you can look upall of his his history, his stats.
That one's easy. He's go toWikipedia or whatever. What you can't
look up is what Petrose and Iare going to talk about next two segments,
and what I had and asked MarkFurman to do, which he did.
Petro's personal relationship with Oj me orI had a personal relationship with Mark
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Furman, which I'll tell you abouta little bit later on next segment.
And then at the end of thesegment or in the middle of it,
something that if you were around twentyeight years ago, just as I was
starting this show about you. We'vebeen getting emails after emails to repeat what
we did. I will do that. Yeah, exactly. What about all
those lawyers? I mean, you'resuch a lawyered up guy. What about
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Marcia Clark and Don I didn't know. I was not interested. I couldn't
care less, No, couldn't careless. No. Well, this show.
It's kind of weird that he went. Also, Barry Shick weird that
he went to the OJ side too. He's head of the innocence project with
the DNA, and by the way, the DNA proved and the blood evidence
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proved that OJ did it. Itwas just it was a chain custody issue.
But anyway, I want to talkabout Petros and his relationship with OJ,
and I'm going to let just gofor it. Well, I mean,
I don't know what avenue you wantto start with. My father played
football with OJ Simpson in the sixtiesat USC and then opened a relatively well
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a very popular restaurant down in SanPedro, California, so popular that people
from outside of San Pedro all overthe place, movie stars and all kinds
of weirdos would patronize it. SoOJ was often at the restaurant and I
saw him all the time. Iserved him and Nicole when I was a
kid. I served him. InPaula Barbieri. There was a big private
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party for the patriarch of the Kardashianfamily. They were a San Pedro tuna
cannery family that made money with theWorld War II contracts like many did down
there. And the patriarch at theKardashian family, he has never been on
TV, was actually John McKay,the head coach at USC's personal secretary in
the sixties, and that was therelationship with Robert Kardashian, his little brother,
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and OJ, the guy that youknew from the trial. So all
these people were intertwined through Uscy BruceJenner was down there, Bruce at the
time, and that old tennis ballhead Chris Jenner, all those people.
So it was pretty amazing when themurders happened, and immediately like it's happened
with me. And if you havea teammate that's accused of something, you
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know, all of us guys thatplayed football like my dad, they thought
OJ was innocent. And there wererumors that OJ was trying to contact somebody
right before the slow speed chase.Maybe a couple of days to find an
uncharted boat in sam Pedro to gethim out of the country. And around
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the time of the what was aFriday night, right at five o'clock,
the slow speed chase happened, andwe're all sitting at my dad's restaurant watching
on a tube TV like the otherwhat was it forty million Americans at the
time you were talking about last hourand my dad, who's a high strung
Greek man, an old USC linebackers, started saying, he's coming here.
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Clear out the walk in freezer.So we all ran and started clearing the
pickled doc to Puss and all thestuff out of the freezer to I guess.
Once he got on the one ohfive, we thought he was going
to come down the one ten southand we were going to hide OJ in
the walk in and put him ona boat. Of course, you know
that never happened, but I rememberin the moment feeling like that was really
gonna happen. And then the otherweird part about it was that guy Gascone
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was there all the time, thecommander that said OJ was a fugitive of
justice. Lance Edo was eating atthe restaurant all the time, before,
during, and after the trial.Marcia Clark was often there, and it
was an OJ place in a USCplace before that, so all of that
just made it really fascinating. Soin the moment, what kind of guy
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was Oj? On a personal level, He's like Magic Johnson if you've ever
been around, Like not that Magicmurdered anybody, but like when he would
walk into a room and smile,it was disarming and he would light up
a room like literally, which iswhy he did all those commercials because he
was the most likable guy. HisQ rating was just completely insane. Hurts.
It was the best thing Hurts everdid was to hire him. Their
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their sales went through the roof goOj. Go kind kind of guy was
he? You know? Did hedid her Garius? You know? I
mean sometimes at the restaurant, he'dgo to the bathroom thirty times, if
you know what I'm saying. Uhso, you know, but you know,
he was a Hollywood guy, andthe whole USC football player going Hollywood
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was not. He was not thefirst. It was Frank Gifford, who
was a gigantic star and became anNFL Hall of Famer and was also a
West Coast guy. From Bakersfield,So Frank Gifford, who used to be
married to Kathy Lee, remember allthat. Sure, he was like the
first US Saint crossover star. OJ. Stardom came from USC and Holly
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would in LA and then it perpetuatedafter his football career. He was a
great pro football player, But itwas the cult of personality in the city
of Los Angeles and that marriage thatcreated this juggernaut and then of course the
fall from grave. Yeah, ona personal level, was he fairly magnanimous?
Was he? Did? He havean insane ego? And he goes,
basically, I'm OJ Simpson, eventhough he didn't say that, was
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that part of his persona? Ithink there was probably an amazing sense of
entitlement around, you know what,everything. But you know, as a
kid, I mean I was ateenager throughout the time that I you know,
and I was a football player.So being around O. J.
Simpson was like being around you know, Tom Brady or anybody like that.
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It was it was like being arounda god, a deity of sorts.
Right until the murders happened, youreally didn't think anything of it, and
then you started hearing, well thisthis guy had a very dark side,
and this, this, this,and this happened and it all started to
make sense. Yeah, and justfor the record, about Petros, by
the way, he was probably inhigh school, one of those sought after
football players, just one of thegreat great players in high school. And
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then he went down. Not Scottwell, but it's close, and then
Scott I was a scholarship football player. Yeah, this is worth listening to,
by the way, on demand,because Petros had this relationship with OJ
and the crowd that he hung outwith. My relationship was with Mark Furman,
the police officer who was at thecrux of the decision for the jury
(07:34):
to rule to decide innocence or notguilty, not innocence And it was going
to happen anyway, but Mark Furmanregarding the N word, and he was
convicted of perjury because he said onthe stand he didn't use it, and
then they proved that he did,and boom, he got it. He
was a felon, became a felonbecause of that. Okay, so now
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backstory, how did I know MarkFurman? Marjorie was carjacked a couple of
years before the before OJ and hewas and the detective assigned to her case
was Mark Furman. And the guywho robbed Marjorie and took the car at
gunpoint happened to be a black Eye. And by the way, that is
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part of the story, so Iwant to share that with you. And
they eventually caught him nine months later. They caught him, Marjorie. They
had fingerprints. There was a databaseat that time. He called his mother
on Marjorie's cell phone. I mean, they had him to write. So
they catch him and there's a lineupand Marjorie goes, and I'm sitting Furman,
(08:46):
Marjorie at the lineup in the likeauditorium, I'm behind them, and
the Marjorie's to identify him in thelineup, and there was two guys.
She couldn't. She goes, Idon't know, you know, I don't
know who is it? Is it? Number two's at number five? And
she sort of whispers to Mark,and Mark knew who he was, so
(09:07):
which one is it? No onewould be able to hear if he would
just whisper or her number two.And he said, Marjorie, we don't
do that, and only I wouldhave heard that. He goes, you're
going to have to identify him,sure yourself. She identified the wrong person
by the way. No, yeahshe did, but it didn't matter.
(09:28):
They had such overwhelming evidence and peoplemake mistakes, so that he at the
preliminary then you have to bring herup. And then he pled guilty because
they had him to right. Sohe got six years, did three from
good behavior, and out he goes. But she was so traumatized at that
point. So there is you know, that's Mark Furman's this racism quote.
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And as far as the end word, there wasn't a cop that worked in
South Central, which he did foryears that didn't use the word. So
now Furman, because I became friendswith him, or we socialized or we
knew each other and we talk allthe time. Because as he was being
the guy who was being chased down, I had him on the show,
interviewed him and he wouldn't do veryfew interviews after the case. And what
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we used to do in those dayswere parody songs, which you can't do
anymore here on the station. Theywere brilliant. Oh they were. Yeah.
It was Ken Gallagher, Paul T. Wall who would put them together.
Tim Kelly would put them together.I mean they were brilliant and do
you have an ear for music?Yeah? I do, And so anyway,
a lot of Well, first ofall, play the ballad, would
(10:37):
you kno? Because this is thestuff that was coming out like crazy,
just for a second, if youhave it, well has a breadwood condo.
Here's a young wat fans, particularlybecause the friend of Suman. Yeah,
that's time. I just went andintroduced you sort of as a backstory.
And then we did Mockarina songs thatwere the parodies of the Mockarina songs,
(11:00):
uh it because that was going onat the time, and one Macarina.
So yeah, but they did allkinds of parodies. Uh, let's
play the kind of stuff that wasgoing around. If you have just general
Macarena kono remember that. And sowe took that song and made parody after
(11:22):
parody after parody, just in general. And then we got or I got
Mark Furman to do a Mark Furmanparody song. So we're gonna play that
right now. This is Mark Furman. Every time I hear my name,
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it's always to get the blamer.They say the word I used helped to
free the juice. I'm marked formana usday word for status J to the
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N word, I was no stranger. Doesn't mean the evidence is rearranged.
I'm haunted daily memories of that,Lee Bailey. I'm marked from Manna juicy
word O J killed run Go Maina. Now I'm the one on Go Basia.
(13:05):
I would have loved to never haveseen that glove. I'm marked for
Mana that we got Mark to doon this? How does that exist?
How does that exist? How doesthat not? How does that thought?
(13:26):
The intro to your show every singleday, isn't that I'm mark for Mana?
Yeah that was Mark. I wishI would have never seen his glove.
And what a song? I wantto hear it again. Well what
lyrics I'll send it to you.I think Tim Kelly wrote those are King
gall and I Have No Stranger.Yeah, it was that's Mark. And
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this was when he was requested,I mean the request for him to do
interviews. He wouldn't do him.That doesn't mean the evidence is rearrange,
all right, Petro, How didhe look at the lyrics and be like,
Okay, he's fine. You knowwhat he used to do? By
the way, after he went heleft retired from the police force and went
up to Standpoint, Idaho, wherehe still lives. He would take a
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cassette of that song and others parodysongs that we did Oja, et cetera.
He would go into a bar andask the ball of bartender to play
the song, and people knew whohe was. He could not buy a
drink for three years that he wouldnot let him buy his own drink.
All right, guys, we areokay. Now let's switch gears and talk
(14:41):
about what's happening with the show HeyOtane Otani? And yeah, look at
where my head's going with is thatpronounced ep? Okay? We know the
story of Misuhara who was charged yesterdaywith the bank fraud, and I mean
(15:01):
the amount of money that he stole, which is the allegation now from show
Hey Otan is just astronomical. Originallyit was four million dollars, it was
reported. Now it's sixteen million dollarsfrom Otani and the FEDS. The Attorney
General, not the Attorney General,the US attorney in Los Angeles looks at
(15:22):
Otani as simply a victim. Sohere is where I want to go.
Because first of all, the conspiracytheorists already started that Otani knew all about
it was part and parcel of thegambling and number two, a lot of
talk about his legacy because he ison his way to being a ballplayer that's
going to be compared to Babe Ruthprobably already is. And so is he
(15:43):
that good? Let's start with that. Yeah, he's he's a generational talent
that no one has ever seen anythinglike this before in modern baseball. A
guy that can pitch at that highof a level and hit the way he
hits. He's the best hitter inbaseball right now. He's the best hitter
in baseball. He's not pitching thisyear because he's coming off of Tommy John
surgery, but he is hitting ata at an unbelievable clip. He's a
(16:07):
unicorn. He has a baseball unicorn. And he's a very private There's a
lot of mystery that shrouds that heshrouded in before and after this. And
he he's just a different entity tohave on your team than anybody's ever had
before. So you add this intrigueand it does. It is interesting,
but I think some people have alreadyeven forgotten about it. As far as
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Arvi. Yeah, and that's thequestion because you heard for a second,
how is it that sixteen million dollarscan be stolen from you and not and
you not know about it? Andfrom what we understand, missuhura best friend
interpreter control the bank accounts, wasable to take the money, And how
is it that agent managed how isit that Otani didn't know? And I
(16:56):
believe it because here's a guy whodoesn't care much about money that sixty minute
piece we were talking about, andthat he was interviewed, money just wasn't
an issue. He doesn't think inthose terms. So you trust a guy
who runs your money and you knowwho pays attention, and I think that's
what happened. Well, look,when when the story first came out,
and I think I was on theair with you when the story first came
(17:17):
out, it did not smell rightas far as Otawni was concerned. I
mean, just looking at it,how this guy was embedded with the angels,
all those different things, knowing theway sports betting works, who would
give an interpreter a forty million dollarmarker? You know, all of these
different things that kind of raise questions. And there's still a lot of conspiracy
(17:37):
theories and questions out there. Butthe more you look at this story and
the more you read up on itand what you see, what the FEDS
found, and the text messages theyhave from this guy EPA to the book
maker, it looks more and moreplausible that Otani's totally a victim here.
And the numbers I mean are astronomical. I mean it's hard for people to
wrap their Yeah, you know thisguy who he's thirty nine years old and
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according to complaint, he averaged twentyfive bets a day from ten dollars to
one hundred and sixty thousand dollars perbet. And here it is total winnings
of one hundred and forty two milliondollars over three years. For you one
a fortune, he lost one hundredand eighty three million dollars. It's it's
he's sewed forty million dollars. Sohow do you are That's the that's the
(18:25):
one lingering question in my mind.And Otani definitely is a different kind of
guy. But how do you havea bff that you're with literally twenty four
to seven, traveling all around theworld and you don't know that he's betting
millions of dollars? Dozens of timesa day. It's the highest bet I
think was something like two hundred thousand, and the lowest bet was ten dollars.
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Yeah, that's unbelievable. I mean, that is unbelievable that they won
that ten dollars bet. That's veryI mean, you're right, a marker.
How does he get to be thatfar south. Well, if you
start betting and paying over a courseof two three years, you're gonna get
more and more credit than the markers, and at some point it basically becomes
a Ponzi scheme. And I thinkthat's where he's at. I think it
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gets to the point where the bookhe's like rooting for you. Pretty bad
for this guy, and the textmessages are pretty remarkable and damning. All
Right, Petros, thank you.We'll see you again on Monday, Monday
and Wednesday. Thank you for havingme. I appreciate everybody. And don't
forget Petros and Money. Petros's showwith Money weekdays three to seven pm AM
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five seventy LA Sports and on Xhe's at Petros and Money. Petros,
thanks again, We'll see you onMonday. Take care. I'm Mark from
I. All right, A littlebit of flim there Okay, quick story
about going to a US airports andyou go, you know, the checkpoints
(19:56):
are pretty thorough. I get pissedoff all the time, and I'm occasionally
I'm grab for the random search andyou sit there and you tap your feet,
you go yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. You can
do the explosive checks, et cetera. Well, it turns out hundreds of
people last year were able to sneakthrough. Now just hundreds. So it
(20:17):
made a big deal of that yesterdayand made the national news and oh shock,
oh shock. You know, keepin mind, though, what is
it eighty million, one hundred millionpeople are go through the checkpoints every year,
and out of that you have afew hundred people that have sneaked through.
Yeah, I know you're right,and it only takes one, But
(20:38):
how do you not have one outof one hundred and twenty million doing anything?
So it's that's a little problematic.And when they do, when they
find out that someone has snuck through, they shut down the airport. I
mean that terminal is shut down andeverybody's evacuated until they figure out that it's
safe. Now here's something maybe evenscarier, and that is over fifteen hundred
(21:03):
firearms were intercepted at US airports checkpoints. Fifteen hundred. Oh, I guess
what, I'm sorry, fifteen hundredin the first quarter of twenty twenty four.
That's at the rate of six thousand. No, we're right, So
your chances have just gone up prettydramatically that someone is bringing a firearm.
(21:26):
Okay, are they loaded? Ninetythree percent were loaded with AMMO caught at
checkpoints. Now, are you allowedto bring a firearm on an airplane?
You are. Federal law allows youto do it, However, not at
security checkpoints, loaded or unloaded,not in a secure air of the airport,
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not in the passenger cabin. Obviously, even if you have a concealed
carry permit, because oh, Ihave the constitutional right to do this,
and I live in a free carrystate. Right open carry state when like
Florida now doesn't matter. The firearmhas to be packed properly and as checked
luggage, declared at the ticket counter, which means you can't do one of
(22:17):
those ticket lists go to the kiosk. You have to go to the counter
and say I have a firearm inmy baggage. It has to be secured.
Secured means of course, unloaded andlocked in a hard sided case,
declared ammunition not allowed in the carryon. Obviously allowed in check baggage,
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but it has to be properly stored. It has tonot be in the firearm.
Of course. Now the TSA isnot an enforcement agency, by the
way. They don't confiscate or seizefirearms. What they do is they call
the cops and then the cops comeover and if it is let's say,
the cop decides I'm not going todeal with this because as in our state
(23:00):
you're allowed to carry arm firearms,they'll call the FEDS. They'll call the
feds end and pretty stiff findes.Arrests are possible to do this. I've
noticed when it comes to security.You know, as a kid, I
actually was able. As a teenager, I was able to get into a
cabin while the airplane was in theair, literally get into the cabin.
(23:27):
I remember flying in Brazil and Imade friends because I speak Portuguese and here's
an American speaking Portuguese. So Iwas just talking to the co pilot and
he goes, come on in,and there we were, you know,
flying along. Sure, or Itried to get into a cabin today as
a guest. Right when the pilotdecides he's going to go to the restroom
(23:49):
or the co pilot, which ofcourse the restroom is right next to the
entry door of the cockpit, theybring the cart out and block the aisle,
so you have to jump over thecart to get into the cabin or
attack one of the pilots. Soanyway, it's changed. Life is changed,
(24:12):
you know, for the better.Who the hell knows, as far
as I'm concerned, nothing's for thebetter. It used to be bad,
it's gotten worse. The good olddays really weren't the good old days?
You know that they were the badold days, only to be beat by
the bad todays. All right,that's enough of my philosophy on life.
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