April 18, 2025 • 27 mins
(Friday 04/18/25)
More immigrants opt to self-deport rather than risk being marched out. The tactics Elon Musk uses to manage his ‘legion’ of babies and their mothers. Proposed rule change on endangered species’ triggers alarm for environmentalists. Federal workers are facing a new reality.
More immigrants opt to self-deport rather than risk being marched out. The tactics Elon Musk uses to manage his ‘legion’ of babies and their mothers. Proposed rule change on endangered species’ triggers alarm for environmentalists. Federal workers are facing a new reality.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty five AM six forty Handle. Here Morning Crew.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Foody Friday, April eighteenth, eight o'clock hour always fun on
a Friday. First of all, we do Foody Friday thirty
with Neil and Neil joins me and oh boy, it's
always fun because we talk about food. Neil and I, well,
we talk about and eat a lot of food. And
then at a thirty it's ask candle anything are now weekly,
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Let's embarrass me a couple of segments which.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Always fun, always fun. Talk a little bit more about
that later.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Now, Immigration and if people are complaining about how much
time I'm spending on what's going on with the administration,
I must tell you that the reason is because.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It hits every level, political level.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Moral level, depending on where you are, entertainment level, which
is enormous. So here is another political and just practical level.
And this has to do with the new program that
the Trump administration is instituting, and that is the program
of self deportation.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You to port yourself if you are illegal.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Trump came into a second term promising the largest deportation
effort in US history by the way. Largest one was
during the Eisenhower administration back in the fifties.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You know what they called it.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Try to do this today, even Trump can't do this.
It was called Operation Wetback. That was the official name
of that deportation event. Millions were to port I think
three million or something were deported. In any case, he
comes into his second term promising the largest deportation effort
in US history, and during the campaign, and he won
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the presidency in a large part because of his rhetoric,
his statement, his belief dealing with undocumented immigrants who have.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Committed violent crimes. That's the start.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Now it has expanded pretty dramatically to everybody who is illegal,
get the hell out of here, and if you do
it by self deportation, here's what we're going to offer you.
Offer number one. We're going to give you a plane ticket.
We're going to give you some money to get out
of Dodge. Now it's not just Dodge, USA, it's every
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city USA. And you'll have the ability to legally try
to come back in the country. Because if we deport
you and it's involuntary, you're done. You will never be
able to come into America ever. Now, the problem is
is that even if someone self deports on the premise
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that an application will be heard and that someone has
the ability to come back and apply for asylum, no
one is getting asylum, nobody, and so you're done as
far as the ability to come back in practically so,
I think that one doesn't count and people know that. However,
Trump saying the administration saying we are going after you.
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Pam Bondi, Attorney General, has said that outright, we will
find you, will we we will deport you now practically,
practically speaking, it has estimated eleven million illegal immigrants in
this country and to deport a huge number of them,
per the statement of the administration.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, deal with eleven million of anything.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Can you imagine the resources that are necessary the detention centers, because.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You've got eleven people million people in line? Where do
you put them?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, they're running around the US and they're working illegally,
they're working under the table of which a huge part
of our economy is based on. And so assuming that
you have found someone, the government has found someone.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Here illegally, out you go.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Where in line are you? Are you number ten million?
And how long are you going to be here?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Years? By the way.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I have said several times, if this come to fruition,
I am going to go for the bus franchise.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Kids will not be able to be.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Bussed to school because I'm going to take every damn
bus that's out there just for deporting illegal aliens. Now,
no one really knows how many people are making the
decision to leave. This is a new program. A lot
of people are going to various organizations. For example, toe
Deck Legal Center in the Inland Empire Lose Galagos. The
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executive director says that her staff is talking every day
with a whole dozens of people who are asking.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
How does this work?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Can I take our car, what happens to our kids
and their education?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And what comes up?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
A lot, according to the legos Is, people are saying
I'd rather leave with something than leave or get thrown
out with nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Numbers USA.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The other side of this issue, a grassroots organization focused
on immigration reform.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And we're talking.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
About immigration reform in the sense that making it more
difficult for undocumented illegal migrants here in the United States
is encouraging people to return to their home countries, and
because that is key to reducing the number of unauthorized immigrants.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And beyond that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And this is something that we have dealt with here
at iHeart and is not being enforced, and it is
something that the government could enforce and maybe will a
lot more stringently, is having companies everify to prove employees
can legally work in the US, and if employers don't
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comply and an illegal migrant is found, theoretically there's up
to a ten thousand dollars fine for companies that hire
illegal migrants, and.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
There has never been a prosecution.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
No one has ever been tagged with a ten thousand
dollars fine. If they were to enforce that and say
to companies, you are going to be nailed and fined
ten thousand and fifty thousand dollars a day for each
migrant that we know is there. Now you're talking about
companies probably complying in a much much more effective way,
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and the numbers of illegal migrants would probably drop. Employee there,
iHeart Now, I had been working at this station since
nineteen eighty nine when iHeart bought, when I Heard bought
KFI and the entire cluster KFI in Coast and whatever
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program my FM, all these stations. I had to come
in with my passport to show I was in the
United States. Legally, you had to bring in either a
passport or a birth certificate, or a Green card or
a work visa.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You had to prove.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Now, for those of you that are employed, how many
of you and you've switched jobs, or you've recently been
hired or years ago you were hired, how many of
your employers have asked, I want to see that passport.
I want to see the I want to see the
work permit, I want to see your naturalization paper. In
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my case, it was the passport I brought in following
the everify.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That's the law.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So I think you're going to see that that's enforceable,
or at least the fear of being nailed by corporations
tossing out eleven million people, that's a little bit more problematic.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Elon Musk, Now he has a lot of kids, and
you think he has a lot of kids because he
just likes stopping a lot of women. Officially, he has
fourteen kids. That's publicly four different women. Those in the
know say, oh no, that number is far higher.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Let me give you a quick story here.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Okay, this is out of the Wall Street Journal, Ashley
Saint Clair. Woman wanted to prove that Musk was the
father of her newborn baby, and she wanted to ask
for a paternity test, and she's a right wing influencer,
by the way. Now, she had to go through Musk's fixer,
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Jared Birchall. She said, I don't want my son to
feel like he's a secret, she tells Birchall. And these
are people that are in the know with this one.
So Burchell offered Saint Clair some advice. Musk is a
very and I'm quoting now, a very big hearted, kind
and generous person. However, you don't want to get on
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the wrong side when a mother of his child goes
the quote legal route, That always always leads to a
worse outcome for that woman than would have been otherwise.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He tells this twenty six year old.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Plus he said, Musk isn't even assured the child is his.
This was not the first phone conversation with women that
Burchill had. Now his job is running Musk's family office,
and he was the one that helped organize Musk giving
more than two hundred and fifty million dollars to help
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Trump win the election.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Behind the scenes He also manages all the privacy and financial.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Deals that Musk wants with these women.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So we know that Musk officially fourteen kids with four women,
including with the pop musician Grimes and Jevon zillis an
executive at his computer, his brain computer company, Neurlink, and
Musk's friends people who know say, oh, no, fourteen, you
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are dreaming.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So here's the deal. It's a good deal to have
a kid by Musk.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
He offers Saint Clair fifteen million dollars plus one hundred
thousand dollars a month in exchange for her silence.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Signing an NDA. By the way, they.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Named the kid Romulus when that became public, and these
agreements have similar agreements have been negotiated with other mothers
one hundred thousand dollars a month until the kid turns
eighteen and fifteen million dollars. This makes you want to
be a trans person and have a kid instantly. Is
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it just a question of Trump stooping out of control? No? No,
there it goes deeper than that. This is where nuts happens.
The baby making of Musks is relevant to his ambition
for NASA, because, in his view of the world, civilization
is under threat because of a declining population, and he
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wants to correct that by helping see the earth with
more human beings of high intelligence. According to people familiar
with all of this, now, yeah, that's pretty nuts. And
he refers to his offspring as his Lesion legion reference
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to the Roman Legions thousands.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Of members who took over the world.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Musk even suggested this is during Saint Clair's pregnancy, that
they bring another woman to have even more kids faster.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And he has recruited potential mothers on his social media
platform x and has used his wealth to buy the
silence of some of these women. So there is I
guess it's kind of fun. I guess it's kind of
fun creating a group of highly intelligent people to in
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fact inhabit the earth. So I guess not only does
he have fun, that's his job.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So he's stooping for work, which.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Reminds me of a story, and that is a man
is in bed with his best friend's wife. The man
who's the friend comes home, sees his wife in bed
with his best friend and says to him, murray, I
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have to but you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Okay, hey, come on, all right, totals, he wanted to
stand up in apploud. Yes every time we hear it,
well the first yes, Okay, that's enough for that.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
By the way, he has offered a sperm to Zillis.
They have four young children together, and he's offering his sperm.
I guess he's kind of tired of it. And she
is viewed as the steadying force he is. She is
the favorite of him in this regard. Also, the other
thing about Musk, and this is kind of the neat
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part about Musk in addition to this crazy stuff, is
he has what two hundred million followers, so people post
questions to him comments he will answer some of them,
which is kind of neat. If you get a post
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from from elon Musk, what would you do with that?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
What would you do with a post from Musk? Would
it get you all excited?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Now?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I'd try and get pregnant by it personally? Uh yeah,
so would I some that money? You know, I wouldn't
be that impressed.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I would not.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You know, here's another story that I've told before, but
there are people that are listening. I have not heard
the story, and that is one of the big deals.
I've been a million cruises, you know, that I've been
over thirty cruises. I'm a cruise kind of guy, and
quite often and we'd be on the same cruise, the
same ship several times, which entitled me to have dinner
with the captain. And I would get an invitation, you
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are invited to the captain's table tonight, and I would respond,
no thanks, why would I eat with the help And
I never got a response back. By the way, I've
only sat with a captain once and I will never
do that again. Okay, we are done. Okay, Now moving
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on to the.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Endangered Species Act.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The Trump administration is not a big fan of endangered species. Well,
actually he is, but it's making democrats an endangered species.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
As far as the rest of.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
The endangered species, he's okay with him disappearing too. And
so the administration plans to eliminate habitat protections for endangered
and threatened species. Environmentalists are going crazy and say this
could lead to the extinction of critically endangered species because
of logging, mining, development, and other activities. And here is that.
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Here's the technical legal wonky issue. What is the definition
of harm in the Endangered Species Act? Well, up to
this point is as it has included altering or destroying
the places where these species live habitat. Habitat destruction is
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the biggest cause of extinction, according to the Center for
Biological Diversity. Noah Greenwald, who is director the US Fish
and Wildlife Service the National Marine Fishery Service, said in
a proposed a rule that was issued on Wednesday, this
is what they want to propose that habitat modification should
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not be considered harm. It's not the same as intentionally
targeting a species.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's called take.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Environmentalists argue that the definition of take has always included
actions that harm species, and the definition of harm has actually.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Been upheld by the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
The proposed rule cuts, and this is Greenwald cuts the
heart out of the Endangered Species Act, and he gave
an example. Spotted owls and Florida panthers are both protected
because the current rule forbids habitat destruction.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The new rule, if adopted, is if someone.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Logs or a company logs in a forest or builds
a development, that would be unimpeded as long as they
could say that they did not intend to harm an
endangered species.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's an intent issue, and so of.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Course lawsuits will be filed immediately if this is adopted.
According again to the environmentalists, that the proposal threatens a
half century of progress in protecting and restoring endangered species,
including bald eagles, gray wolves, Florida manatees, humpback whales. Have
you ever had breast of bald eagle? It is one
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of the most delicious dishes you can have. It beats
the crap out of breast of turkey, rust of chicken.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's just really good, has a really deep flavor.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
If the looks of your crew right now, me included,
could kill you, would have just died right now. Even
Will was shaking his head in disgust.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Now, spotted owl, as good as it is, doesn't hold
a candle to the bald eagle.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Just wanted to point that out.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Big, big problem and the Trump administration and now getting
a little bit more serious because you know, I'm joking
about the bald eagle. I'm not joking about manatee meat
that actually is really good, or humpback whale filets.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I've actually eaten whale. You know, you go to Norway.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
In Norway is not part of the international agreement protecting whales.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
They just want nothing to do with it because they
eat whales.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And when I was in Norway, I ate whale and
we were it was on a cruise, strangely enough, and
we were sitting around and this was in the afternoon.
The captain actually invited a small group of us because
I was involved with the captain through some friends who
worked for the It was Princess Lines, and the captain said,
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we got some whales from our agent in Norway, some
whale meat. You want to come around and we'll have
a taste. And we all sat around the table and
we went around the table talking about how it tastes.
And one of the people said it's chewy. Others said
there's not much flavor to it. My turn comes around
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and my quote was free Willie.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And then they went to the.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Next person and what does whale meat taste like? At
least the whale that I was served, It's like beef
that has been next to liver in the refrigerator for
a period of time. It has a tinge of liver flavor,
just like a little tinge.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It's horrible. Also, there's no fat on whale.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You would think there'd be tons of fat on whales,
and there isn't. The blubber is around the whale, the mussel,
which of course is the flesh that we eat. Unless
you eat chitlins, I know, unless you eat the what
do they call the pigskins pork rinds, notified pork rindes,
thank you, unless you eat whale riines. The meat it
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has no marbling, so it is almost impossible to cook
well because it gets into overcooked.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Immediately, like Ostrich Neil.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You've eaten Ostrich Uh, not that I recall it is sausage, but.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Okay, well, Ostrich meats thing. It has almost no fat
and it's too easy to overcook. Now back again, it's
not as good as bald eagle, very little is Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
We're gonna stop right there.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We know that federal workers have been fired by the
tens of thousands and soon to be hundreds of thousands
of workers, and obviously someone who's worked for the federal
government is pretty depressed.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You lose your job, it's depressing.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So the people who are left working they have to
be happy campers.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Huh, at least it wasn't me. Well, it turns out
that there is a lot of.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Grief left among those who are still working for the government.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
For some the extra work because the work has to.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Continue on with fewer people, and that is untenable for others.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's all about chaos.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
For example, scienceists have been unable to purchase my for research,
and they purchase mice by the hundreds of thousands. Mice
are great because once you're finished with mice, they make
great or dures use them for saying, I use them
for finger food. Human tissue samples have been on dry
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ice because of worker layoffs. There's nobody to work with them. Lawyers,
for example, lawyers at the Education Department are racing through
this whole backlog of complaints from parents of special needs
children because there is a complaint system, there's an appeal system.
Russell Vott, director of the Office of Management and Budget,
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By the way, I'm done making jokes about eating bald
eagles and mice and all that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think I've done it, just done it to death today.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
What do you think you think I've milked it enough? Oh,
let's talk about where you get milk.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, let's not.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Russell Vott, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget,
last fall, in a speech, said we want the bureaucrats
to be traumatically affected when they wake up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
We want them not to go to work.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
This is a quote, because they're increasingly viewed as villains
and they are now. Federal workers are accustomed, you know,
to the ebb and flow of agency leadership. You know,
the top heap is always politically motivated and you got it.
But the second tier and third tier of federal workers,
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these are their career people. They're there forever, they're civil servants.
They're getting canned like crazy. And one of the federal
workers management people who still there said, the problem isn't
just low morale, it's this function. Federal employees are just
unable to do the work. One of the workers, one
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of the senior management people left, said, at least fifty
percent of my time is devoted trying to deal with repercussions,
the shock of having hundreds of colleagues suddenly disappear, including
researchers who oversaw studies that have been just shut down.
I mean, morale is low now all of us. Though
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most federal workers know that some bloat in the government exists,
and previous administrations didn't do much about it, just let
it continue on and on, and certain contracts should be reviewed.
I mean, there are some crazy stuff. There are some
crazy stuff going on. There are some programs that really
have to be looked at. But do you go in
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with this kind of a brush you talk about broad strokes.
Do you throw out not only the baby with the bathwater,
but the bathroom, the bathtub, the entire house in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Do you do that?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Here's an example for weeks now, Trump staffers frozer restricted purchases,
purchase cards for employees. At most agency senior approval is required.
For example, a replacement cable for your computer that has
to go up the line, a last minute car rental
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has to be approved. Researchers at the NIH that we're
doing some pretty important research unable to order reagents for experiments,
basic tools for cancer screening.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, it has gone very deep.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And this is where the government, the administration is diving
in and not really thinking through what's happening. Premise, Okay,
not bad, long long game. You can't argue with Trump
with the long game. If it is an even playing field.
You will see more employment here, you will see factories here.
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So how does Trump deal with it? Tariffs, which is
a legitimate way of going about it, because we want
an even playing field. But do you engage in tariffs
and then change your mind the next day and then
change your mind the next day. I mean that just
doesn't work. The stock market or the markets.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Around the world react to that and so too quickly.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, too widespread without thinking it through. Absolutely, and we'll
see the problem is the long game is the long game.
Unemployment inflation is the short game, and.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
We'll see how many people are affected.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Okay, foody Friday coming up, Neil and me. As we
engage in things food, what do we have, Oh, Martha
Stewart's stuff craft mac and cheese, which is iconic. We're
actually finding out maybe they use real cheat. No, maybe
they use real mac.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
No. No, who am I kidding? That was I almost
made it?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I almost made it, didn't I was that just the
beginning of the cough?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Was that happen? I thought you killed over for a second. No,
I heard a crash. No, I turned off the mic
just as I was starting to cough. You tried, Yeah,
I did.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
You have to give me the kudos for that one. Okay,
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Foody Friday, April eighteenth, eight o'clock hour always fun on
a Friday. First of all, we do Foody Friday thirty
with Neil and Neil joins me and oh boy, it's
always fun because we talk about food. Neil and I, well,
we talk about and eat a lot of food. And
then at a thirty it's ask candle anything are now weekly,
(00:31):
Let's embarrass me a couple of segments which.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Always fun, always fun. Talk a little bit more about
that later.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Now, Immigration and if people are complaining about how much
time I'm spending on what's going on with the administration,
I must tell you that the reason is because.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It hits every level, political level.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Moral level, depending on where you are, entertainment level, which
is enormous. So here is another political and just practical level.
And this has to do with the new program that
the Trump administration is instituting, and that is the program
of self deportation.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You to port yourself if you are illegal.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Trump came into a second term promising the largest deportation
effort in US history by the way. Largest one was
during the Eisenhower administration back in the fifties.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You know what they called it.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Try to do this today, even Trump can't do this.
It was called Operation Wetback. That was the official name
of that deportation event. Millions were to port I think
three million or something were deported. In any case, he
comes into his second term promising the largest deportation effort
in US history, and during the campaign, and he won
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the presidency in a large part because of his rhetoric,
his statement, his belief dealing with undocumented immigrants who have.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Committed violent crimes. That's the start.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Now it has expanded pretty dramatically to everybody who is illegal,
get the hell out of here, and if you do
it by self deportation, here's what we're going to offer you.
Offer number one. We're going to give you a plane ticket.
We're going to give you some money to get out
of Dodge. Now it's not just Dodge, USA, it's every
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city USA. And you'll have the ability to legally try
to come back in the country. Because if we deport
you and it's involuntary, you're done. You will never be
able to come into America ever. Now, the problem is
is that even if someone self deports on the premise
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that an application will be heard and that someone has
the ability to come back and apply for asylum, no
one is getting asylum, nobody, and so you're done as
far as the ability to come back in practically so,
I think that one doesn't count and people know that. However,
Trump saying the administration saying we are going after you.
(03:19):
Pam Bondi, Attorney General, has said that outright, we will
find you, will we we will deport you now practically,
practically speaking, it has estimated eleven million illegal immigrants in
this country and to deport a huge number of them,
per the statement of the administration.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, deal with eleven million of anything.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Can you imagine the resources that are necessary the detention centers, because.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You've got eleven people million people in line? Where do
you put them?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, they're running around the US and they're working illegally,
they're working under the table of which a huge part
of our economy is based on. And so assuming that
you have found someone, the government has found someone.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Here illegally, out you go.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Where in line are you? Are you number ten million?
And how long are you going to be here?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Years? By the way.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I have said several times, if this come to fruition,
I am going to go for the bus franchise.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Kids will not be able to be.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Bussed to school because I'm going to take every damn
bus that's out there just for deporting illegal aliens. Now,
no one really knows how many people are making the
decision to leave. This is a new program. A lot
of people are going to various organizations. For example, toe
Deck Legal Center in the Inland Empire Lose Galagos. The
(04:52):
executive director says that her staff is talking every day
with a whole dozens of people who are asking.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
How does this work?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Can I take our car, what happens to our kids
and their education?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And what comes up?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
A lot, according to the legos Is, people are saying
I'd rather leave with something than leave or get thrown
out with nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Numbers USA.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The other side of this issue, a grassroots organization focused
on immigration reform.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And we're talking.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
About immigration reform in the sense that making it more
difficult for undocumented illegal migrants here in the United States
is encouraging people to return to their home countries, and
because that is key to reducing the number of unauthorized immigrants.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And beyond that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And this is something that we have dealt with here
at iHeart and is not being enforced, and it is
something that the government could enforce and maybe will a
lot more stringently, is having companies everify to prove employees
can legally work in the US, and if employers don't
(06:08):
comply and an illegal migrant is found, theoretically there's up
to a ten thousand dollars fine for companies that hire
illegal migrants, and.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
There has never been a prosecution.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
No one has ever been tagged with a ten thousand
dollars fine. If they were to enforce that and say
to companies, you are going to be nailed and fined
ten thousand and fifty thousand dollars a day for each
migrant that we know is there. Now you're talking about
companies probably complying in a much much more effective way,
(06:47):
and the numbers of illegal migrants would probably drop. Employee there,
iHeart Now, I had been working at this station since
nineteen eighty nine when iHeart bought, when I Heard bought
KFI and the entire cluster KFI in Coast and whatever
(07:07):
program my FM, all these stations. I had to come
in with my passport to show I was in the
United States. Legally, you had to bring in either a
passport or a birth certificate, or a Green card or
a work visa.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You had to prove.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Now, for those of you that are employed, how many
of you and you've switched jobs, or you've recently been
hired or years ago you were hired, how many of
your employers have asked, I want to see that passport.
I want to see the I want to see the
work permit, I want to see your naturalization paper. In
(07:48):
my case, it was the passport I brought in following
the everify.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That's the law.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So I think you're going to see that that's enforceable,
or at least the fear of being nailed by corporations
tossing out eleven million people, that's a little bit more problematic.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Elon Musk, Now he has a lot of kids, and
you think he has a lot of kids because he
just likes stopping a lot of women. Officially, he has
fourteen kids. That's publicly four different women. Those in the
know say, oh no, that number is far higher.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Let me give you a quick story here.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Okay, this is out of the Wall Street Journal, Ashley
Saint Clair. Woman wanted to prove that Musk was the
father of her newborn baby, and she wanted to ask
for a paternity test, and she's a right wing influencer,
by the way. Now, she had to go through Musk's fixer,
(08:53):
Jared Birchall. She said, I don't want my son to
feel like he's a secret, she tells Birchall. And these
are people that are in the know with this one.
So Burchell offered Saint Clair some advice. Musk is a
very and I'm quoting now, a very big hearted, kind
and generous person. However, you don't want to get on
(09:13):
the wrong side when a mother of his child goes
the quote legal route, That always always leads to a
worse outcome for that woman than would have been otherwise.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He tells this twenty six year old.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Plus he said, Musk isn't even assured the child is his.
This was not the first phone conversation with women that
Burchill had. Now his job is running Musk's family office,
and he was the one that helped organize Musk giving
more than two hundred and fifty million dollars to help
(09:49):
Trump win the election.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Behind the scenes He also manages all the privacy and financial.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Deals that Musk wants with these women.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So we know that Musk officially fourteen kids with four women,
including with the pop musician Grimes and Jevon zillis an
executive at his computer, his brain computer company, Neurlink, and
Musk's friends people who know say, oh, no, fourteen, you
(10:21):
are dreaming.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So here's the deal. It's a good deal to have
a kid by Musk.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
He offers Saint Clair fifteen million dollars plus one hundred
thousand dollars a month in exchange for her silence.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Signing an NDA. By the way, they.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Named the kid Romulus when that became public, and these
agreements have similar agreements have been negotiated with other mothers
one hundred thousand dollars a month until the kid turns
eighteen and fifteen million dollars. This makes you want to
be a trans person and have a kid instantly. Is
(11:00):
it just a question of Trump stooping out of control? No? No,
there it goes deeper than that. This is where nuts happens.
The baby making of Musks is relevant to his ambition
for NASA, because, in his view of the world, civilization
is under threat because of a declining population, and he
(11:21):
wants to correct that by helping see the earth with
more human beings of high intelligence. According to people familiar
with all of this, now, yeah, that's pretty nuts. And
he refers to his offspring as his Lesion legion reference
(11:41):
to the Roman Legions thousands.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Of members who took over the world.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Musk even suggested this is during Saint Clair's pregnancy, that
they bring another woman to have even more kids faster.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And he has recruited potential mothers on his social media
platform x and has used his wealth to buy the
silence of some of these women. So there is I
guess it's kind of fun. I guess it's kind of
fun creating a group of highly intelligent people to in
(12:20):
fact inhabit the earth. So I guess not only does
he have fun, that's his job.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So he's stooping for work, which.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Reminds me of a story, and that is a man
is in bed with his best friend's wife. The man
who's the friend comes home, sees his wife in bed
with his best friend and says to him, murray, I
(12:57):
have to but you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Okay, hey, come on, all right, totals, he wanted to
stand up in apploud. Yes every time we hear it,
well the first yes, Okay, that's enough for that.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
By the way, he has offered a sperm to Zillis.
They have four young children together, and he's offering his sperm.
I guess he's kind of tired of it. And she
is viewed as the steadying force he is. She is
the favorite of him in this regard. Also, the other
thing about Musk, and this is kind of the neat
(13:42):
part about Musk in addition to this crazy stuff, is
he has what two hundred million followers, so people post
questions to him comments he will answer some of them,
which is kind of neat. If you get a post
(14:02):
from from elon Musk, what would you do with that?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
What would you do with a post from Musk? Would
it get you all excited?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Now?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I'd try and get pregnant by it personally? Uh yeah,
so would I some that money? You know, I wouldn't
be that impressed.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I would not.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You know, here's another story that I've told before, but
there are people that are listening. I have not heard
the story, and that is one of the big deals.
I've been a million cruises, you know, that I've been
over thirty cruises. I'm a cruise kind of guy, and
quite often and we'd be on the same cruise, the
same ship several times, which entitled me to have dinner
with the captain. And I would get an invitation, you
(14:45):
are invited to the captain's table tonight, and I would respond,
no thanks, why would I eat with the help And
I never got a response back. By the way, I've
only sat with a captain once and I will never
do that again. Okay, we are done. Okay, Now moving
(15:08):
on to the.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Endangered Species Act.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The Trump administration is not a big fan of endangered species. Well,
actually he is, but it's making democrats an endangered species.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
As far as the rest of.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
The endangered species, he's okay with him disappearing too. And
so the administration plans to eliminate habitat protections for endangered
and threatened species. Environmentalists are going crazy and say this
could lead to the extinction of critically endangered species because
of logging, mining, development, and other activities. And here is that.
(15:49):
Here's the technical legal wonky issue. What is the definition
of harm in the Endangered Species Act? Well, up to
this point is as it has included altering or destroying
the places where these species live habitat. Habitat destruction is
(16:10):
the biggest cause of extinction, according to the Center for
Biological Diversity. Noah Greenwald, who is director the US Fish
and Wildlife Service the National Marine Fishery Service, said in
a proposed a rule that was issued on Wednesday, this
is what they want to propose that habitat modification should
(16:32):
not be considered harm. It's not the same as intentionally
targeting a species.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's called take.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Environmentalists argue that the definition of take has always included
actions that harm species, and the definition of harm has actually.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Been upheld by the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
The proposed rule cuts, and this is Greenwald cuts the
heart out of the Endangered Species Act, and he gave
an example. Spotted owls and Florida panthers are both protected
because the current rule forbids habitat destruction.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The new rule, if adopted, is if someone.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Logs or a company logs in a forest or builds
a development, that would be unimpeded as long as they
could say that they did not intend to harm an
endangered species.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's an intent issue, and so of.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Course lawsuits will be filed immediately if this is adopted.
According again to the environmentalists, that the proposal threatens a
half century of progress in protecting and restoring endangered species,
including bald eagles, gray wolves, Florida manatees, humpback whales. Have
you ever had breast of bald eagle? It is one
(17:52):
of the most delicious dishes you can have. It beats
the crap out of breast of turkey, rust of chicken.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's just really good, has a really deep flavor.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
If the looks of your crew right now, me included,
could kill you, would have just died right now. Even
Will was shaking his head in disgust.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Now, spotted owl, as good as it is, doesn't hold
a candle to the bald eagle.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Just wanted to point that out.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Big, big problem and the Trump administration and now getting
a little bit more serious because you know, I'm joking
about the bald eagle. I'm not joking about manatee meat
that actually is really good, or humpback whale filets.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I've actually eaten whale. You know, you go to Norway.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
In Norway is not part of the international agreement protecting whales.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
They just want nothing to do with it because they
eat whales.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And when I was in Norway, I ate whale and
we were it was on a cruise, strangely enough, and
we were sitting around and this was in the afternoon.
The captain actually invited a small group of us because
I was involved with the captain through some friends who
worked for the It was Princess Lines, and the captain said,
(19:29):
we got some whales from our agent in Norway, some
whale meat. You want to come around and we'll have
a taste. And we all sat around the table and
we went around the table talking about how it tastes.
And one of the people said it's chewy. Others said
there's not much flavor to it. My turn comes around
(19:52):
and my quote was free Willie.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And then they went to the.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Next person and what does whale meat taste like? At
least the whale that I was served, It's like beef
that has been next to liver in the refrigerator for
a period of time. It has a tinge of liver flavor,
just like a little tinge.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It's horrible. Also, there's no fat on whale.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You would think there'd be tons of fat on whales,
and there isn't. The blubber is around the whale, the mussel,
which of course is the flesh that we eat. Unless
you eat chitlins, I know, unless you eat the what
do they call the pigskins pork rinds, notified pork rindes,
thank you, unless you eat whale riines. The meat it
(20:42):
has no marbling, so it is almost impossible to cook
well because it gets into overcooked.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Immediately, like Ostrich Neil.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You've eaten Ostrich Uh, not that I recall it is sausage, but.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Okay, well, Ostrich meats thing. It has almost no fat
and it's too easy to overcook. Now back again, it's
not as good as bald eagle, very little is Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
We're gonna stop right there.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We know that federal workers have been fired by the
tens of thousands and soon to be hundreds of thousands
of workers, and obviously someone who's worked for the federal
government is pretty depressed.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You lose your job, it's depressing.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So the people who are left working they have to
be happy campers.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Huh, at least it wasn't me. Well, it turns out
that there is a lot of.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Grief left among those who are still working for the government.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
For some the extra work because the work has to.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Continue on with fewer people, and that is untenable for others.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's all about chaos.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
For example, scienceists have been unable to purchase my for research,
and they purchase mice by the hundreds of thousands. Mice
are great because once you're finished with mice, they make
great or dures use them for saying, I use them
for finger food. Human tissue samples have been on dry
(22:17):
ice because of worker layoffs. There's nobody to work with them. Lawyers,
for example, lawyers at the Education Department are racing through
this whole backlog of complaints from parents of special needs
children because there is a complaint system, there's an appeal system.
Russell Vott, director of the Office of Management and Budget,
(22:39):
By the way, I'm done making jokes about eating bald
eagles and mice and all that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think I've done it, just done it to death today.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
What do you think you think I've milked it enough? Oh,
let's talk about where you get milk.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, let's not.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Russell Vott, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget,
last fall, in a speech, said we want the bureaucrats
to be traumatically affected when they wake up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
We want them not to go to work.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
This is a quote, because they're increasingly viewed as villains
and they are now. Federal workers are accustomed, you know,
to the ebb and flow of agency leadership. You know,
the top heap is always politically motivated and you got it.
But the second tier and third tier of federal workers,
(23:27):
these are their career people. They're there forever, they're civil servants.
They're getting canned like crazy. And one of the federal
workers management people who still there said, the problem isn't
just low morale, it's this function. Federal employees are just
unable to do the work. One of the workers, one
(23:52):
of the senior management people left, said, at least fifty
percent of my time is devoted trying to deal with repercussions,
the shock of having hundreds of colleagues suddenly disappear, including
researchers who oversaw studies that have been just shut down.
I mean, morale is low now all of us. Though
(24:13):
most federal workers know that some bloat in the government exists,
and previous administrations didn't do much about it, just let
it continue on and on, and certain contracts should be reviewed.
I mean, there are some crazy stuff. There are some
crazy stuff going on. There are some programs that really
have to be looked at. But do you go in
(24:38):
with this kind of a brush you talk about broad strokes.
Do you throw out not only the baby with the bathwater,
but the bathroom, the bathtub, the entire house in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Do you do that?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Here's an example for weeks now, Trump staffers frozer restricted purchases,
purchase cards for employees. At most agency senior approval is required.
For example, a replacement cable for your computer that has
to go up the line, a last minute car rental
(25:15):
has to be approved. Researchers at the NIH that we're
doing some pretty important research unable to order reagents for experiments,
basic tools for cancer screening.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, it has gone very deep.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And this is where the government, the administration is diving
in and not really thinking through what's happening. Premise, Okay,
not bad, long long game. You can't argue with Trump
with the long game. If it is an even playing field.
You will see more employment here, you will see factories here.
(25:57):
So how does Trump deal with it? Tariffs, which is
a legitimate way of going about it, because we want
an even playing field. But do you engage in tariffs
and then change your mind the next day and then
change your mind the next day. I mean that just
doesn't work. The stock market or the markets.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Around the world react to that and so too quickly.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, too widespread without thinking it through. Absolutely, and we'll
see the problem is the long game is the long game.
Unemployment inflation is the short game, and.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
We'll see how many people are affected.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Okay, foody Friday coming up, Neil and me. As we
engage in things food, what do we have, Oh, Martha
Stewart's stuff craft mac and cheese, which is iconic. We're
actually finding out maybe they use real cheat. No, maybe
they use real mac.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
No. No, who am I kidding? That was I almost
made it?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I almost made it, didn't I was that just the
beginning of the cough?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Was that happen? I thought you killed over for a second. No,
I heard a crash. No, I turned off the mic
just as I was starting to cough. You tried, Yeah,
I did.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
You have to give me the kudos for that one. Okay,
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