February 3, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Tuesday 4th of February 2025, our future involvement in the Paris Agreement's up in the air, with David Seymour hinting at ACT campaigning on leaving the accord after the 2026 Election.
Over the last six months, there's been a significant increase in search and rescue operations, compared to the year before. NZ Land Search and Rescue’s Johnny Franklin discussed the rising count.
New Centrix data shows reported financial hardship increased 19% in the past year, most of those cases were down to mortgage repayment issues.
Andrew shares his thoughts on youth struggling to get any work experience in the current job market.
Plus, Donna Demaio shares the latest on the 17 year old teenager who died in a shark attack.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the inside. Andrew Dickens
on early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
use talks at B.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Good morning to you, welcome into the program. One more
sleep and then you're on holiday. But we've got a
program to do and coming up in the next hour.
We're getting lost at sea and in the bush more
than ever and we're spending a fortune finding you. So
what's happening with search and rescue. We'll do that in
five minutes time. Economic data from December shows the bite
is real and the road to recovery as long how
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to survive in twenty twenty five and ten minutes time.
And David Seymour is considering campaigning on withdrawing from the
Paris Accords. Have they done their time or is there
something salgeable and they fight against pollution and its impact
on the environment. We'll have that story just before six.
We'll have correspondences from around the world and around New
Zealand and news as it breaks. You can have your
say by giving me a text ninety two to ninety two.
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Small charge applies, or you can email me Dickens at
Newstalks at b dot Co. Do on n z It's
seven U to five.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So it is Tuesday, the fourth of February, and first
to the United States, where the trade war continues. The
Trump administration has agreed to pause sweeping tariffs of Mexico
for a month. This is while the two sides hammer
out an agreement on security and trade. However, Trump's not
stopping with the tariffs. He says the EU could be next.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It will definitely happen with the European Union. I could
tell you that because.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
They've really taken advantage of I said, you know, we.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Have over a three hundred billion dollar deficents.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
They take almost nothing and we take everything from them.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, French President Emmanuel Macron took up the challenge. He said,
if the EU's commercial interests were attacked, it would have
to make itself respected and therefore it would have to react.
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who has arrived in the
United States and he is going to be the very
first foreign leader to meet Donald Trump since he returned
(01:57):
to the White House two weeks ago, which you have
to say is a bit of a sub Nisa. Yahoo
will begin his first meeting with US Middle East Envoy
Steve Witcoff later on today.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
President Trump has been making it very clear that he
wants to see an end to the wars in the
Middle East or we've had, the Israeli Prime Minister saying
repeatedly to his domestic audience, Israel does reserve the right
to return to fighting.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Now back home, and Treasury has sent a strong warning
to the government. It says significant reform and reductions to
public services will be needed in the not too distant
future if the government sticks to its current restricted spending track. Well,
Nikola Willis says she believes the projections which extended fifteen
years into the future what she calls highly uncertain. And finally,
(02:44):
to some music cam Beyonce took home Album of the
Year at the sixty seventh Grammy Awards in Los Angeles. Finally, finally,
so Kenya didn't have to come up and complain. Meanwhile,
there was speeches because the whole thing was about La.
The city Firefighter Fleet was presented an award as a
tribute to the Los Angeles wildfires.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's been many, many years.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Every songwriter, every collaborator, every producer, all of the hard work.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
There we go and that is Beyonce it's nine after
five dickens. So the government told us a lot that
New Zealanders say no too much, and they've spent their
first year saying no a lot, which I was surprised
that one of the first things they said no to
and stopped in its track was the ent islander replacement
program that's known as IREX. After ordering some fairies, kiri
(03:37):
Row went back to the government wanting an unlimited check
to build some wolves. Now Labor first heard about it,
they didn't say no, But then again they didn't say
yes either. The National government gave a very loud no,
canceled the ships and the wolves. And that's a very
important point. The ships were bought and they are a goodbye.
They were a good price. The wharves didn't cost a
heat because they needed to be bigger. What blew the
(03:58):
budget was earthquakes and making the wharves used by both
Bluebridge and Kiwi Rail and two state of the arts
very fancy terminals, and that was expensive. But Nicola Willis
halted the whole lot, ships and all. Now there has
to be an answer. We know this because billions of
dollars worth of trade crosses every year, and yet there
seems no urgency because the latest in this saga is
(04:20):
from Business Desk, who revealed yesterday the government has yet
to establish the company it said it was setting up
to buy the ferries. The Finance Minister announced that they
would do that back on December the eleventh. It has
not happened yet. It's a critical part of the deal
and the creation of a schedule for company is needed
if the government is thinking about creating a state owned
(04:41):
enterprise out of Kiwi Rail in a drive towards privatization,
as suggested by Richard Prebble. So with these things, time
is of the essence, but the government seems unaware of
the pressure and goodness knows what's happening with that schedule
for company. This is a terrible saga because it drags on,
partly because the government has a pathological dislike of everything
the previous government did, but also because it's being a
(05:02):
bit tardy and it's spade work. So Nicola, don't say no,
just say yes, because we voted for grown ups and
prove in financial management. But most of all, we voted
for an aspirational country.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Andrew Dickens is.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Eleven a half to five. We're waiting for relief. By
the way, we've got some new economic data out. It
comes from CENTRICX. It's for December. Personal loan areas rose
by nine point two percent in December by now pay
Later arreas rose eight point two percent. Residential mortgage areas
were up seven percent. Reported financial hardships up nineteen percent,
half of them related to mortgage repayment difficulties. Construction has
(05:40):
been hard hit defaults, some liquidations up forty percent. Residential
new home builders recorded the highest number of annual liquidations,
two hundred and thirty five of them. Two hundred and
thirty five builders went down over twelve months. Transport industry
hit as well, a whole load of liquidations there, one
hundred and thirty one transport companies gone. The pinch is
(06:01):
real and the recovery is a waiting game. So look,
we're going to look at just how we can survive
in twenty twenty five. Some handy hacks on how to
survive it in twenty twenty five in ten minutes time.
But next, why are we getting lost so much? We're
talking search and rescue.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
News and views you trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your
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Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's a quarter right for five now, Over the last
six months, there's been a significant increase in search and
rescue operations. This is compared to the year before. Land
Search and Rescue say they've seen a twenty three percent
increase in the demand for services and a twenty three
percent increase in the number of people being assisted. We're
getting lost and it costs to save us. So Chief
(06:48):
Development and Project Officer Johnny Franklin is joining me now.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Hello, Johnny, Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
How are you good?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Why are we getting lost?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
That's a really good question. The data for that last
six months or so, it's still a bit fresh, so
we've not had an opportunity to analyze it, so it's
probably quite difficult for us to answer that at the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, what kind of operations are they.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
There's a variety of operations, you know, the typical things
that people to expect. Land search a message to be
involved in the alpine environment of the bush environments, but
also we get involved in operations in urban areas for
people who may have cognitive conditions, and that accounts about
twenty five percent of our operations, and obviously as our
(07:33):
population gets older, that percentage increases.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Why you're still analyzing the figures, it's you know, it's
very tempting to say we're getting more tourists again, and
more tourists are doing this the appropriate you know, preparation
before they go into these difficult environments.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I think, you know, we are seeing an increase in
a number of international tourists coming to New Zealand, but
we're still not at the same levels as we were
pre COVID.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And yet.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We're still seeing that increase at the moment. And we
also have to remember that, you know, this number of
tourists only accounts for fifteen percent of such a rescue operations.
You know, that still wouldn't account for this huge increase
that we've but still addition in the last six months.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But still the numbers go up and we have to
find them and we have to save them. Therefore, you
have to have enough money to do it, and you
have to have enough people. So what does this mean
for the amount of volunteers you're having to deploy.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Well, obviously the number of volunteers deploying goes up with
the number of instances occurring. We have sufficient volunteers At
the moment, we have three thousand, three hundred volunteers around
the country. But you know, they give up their time
and that's their most valuable asset, and we are currently
expecting them to provide most of the equipment, which places
a huge financial burden on them. So, you know, over time,
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that makes it more difficult for us recruit.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And do you have enough people?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
We do have enough people at the moment, but I think,
you know, for the longevity and the sustainability of the organization,
removing those barriers to recruitment is the only way that
we can probably continue to be able to provide that
service in the future.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And how sustainable is your funding model? These increases you
need more money even though you depend on volunteers. So
how sustainable is your funding model?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Well, I think at the moment we're able to well,
we're very fortunate to receive eight point seven eight point
seven eight million from the government, but in order to
fully equip all of our volunteers and provide a fully
funded service, that would probably that cost about twenty five
million dollars we estimate, and we're able to make up
(09:45):
some of that funding by you know, local charitable trusts, etc.
But the volunteers do bear the vast majority of underspend themselves.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, Johnny, could you thank the more for us? You
guys do amazing work and great work and we will.
Where would we be without thank you for everything you've done.
That's Johnny Franklin, Chief Development and Project officer from New
Zealand Land Search and Rescue. And don't forget the simple stuff.
Take a knee perb. I mean, have you ever thought
about a one mobile phone? Now they've got the starlink
and tell people where you're going, and don't be silly,
(10:16):
don't get lost. It is eighteen after five. It's a
hard year. We know this and the figures out us
out of December only prove that. So how do you
get through? We're going to talk to a mortgage broker
at a few moments time as we head into twenty
twenty five and how you can survive.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
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Speaker 2 (10:38):
It is five twenty one, so Kiyi's as still waiting
to see a shift in the economy. We know it,
we feel it, and now we've got facts New Centric
data out this morning shows reported financial hardship increased nineteen
percent in the past year, and most of those cases
were down to mortgage repayment issues. The mortgage is killing us.
So I've got a mortgage broker on the line right now.
(10:59):
He's from Key Mortgae. It's Jeremy Andrews. Hello, Jeremy, Morning,
andrew A. Were you surprised by the nineteen percent figure?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Not too surprising, could have been higher, I guess a
lot of I guess a lot of that's a lot
of that is from mortgages, people going through kind of hardship.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So, in other words, you know that the economy is
a bit tanky at the moment, and so you were
expecting a nineteen percent. It's still not a good number
the way it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
It's been pretty hard out there, especially businesses. Last five
years or so, it's been a pretty hard run. They've
been COVID supply chain issues, lockdowns rates after that, rates
have gone from kind of record loads to the highest
a lot of those new businesses would have seen.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And all those people are wanting it to improve soon.
And can you see improvement in the next coming months
or is this going to be a medium term thing.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
So, so from the interest rate perspective, yeah, that's that
is slowly getting better, but it's not it's not going
to be a magic turnaround. I think that the hardship
levels there is still going to continue on for But
there's a lot of hurts out there. Stillest rates really high.
(12:20):
It was still still reduced, I guess as people buyers
and consumers are still struggling to afford things and spend
as much as they used to.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Well, here's the thing though, here's the thing that the
ocr is coming up, And yesterday all the news was
about Trump's tariffs and suggesting that maybe a too too
dramatic drop in the in the interest rate might not
be in our in our favor, and therefore the interest
rates could stay high for a while. So there are
a lot of people out there right now with mortgages
thinking to themselves, what on earth do I do? What
(12:51):
would you what would you suggest?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yes, so we've seen quite a bit of changes in
the last six months gone. It's gone from kind of
not planned to reduce them to quite quickly reduce them.
But the fixed rates maybe haven't come down quite as
much as people were hoping or as quickly. It's just
in the last week there's been quite a bit more
(13:18):
dramatic shifts. So we're now getting interest rates kind of
down around the kind of early to mid fives or
that kind of short short term. I'll probably suggest that
most people, yeah, edge your bets, don't necessarily just hope
that rates just can continue to free fall and keep dropping,
maybe fixing some of your loans that more more midterm.
(13:43):
A lot of people, a lot of people are actually holding
off and floating over the last six months. I don't
think I've ever seen so many people on floating just
hoping for rates to really go well.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'll take that. I'll take that as a vote of
confidence by the New Zealand people to into floating because
they believe that things are going to get better, because
just a month or so ago, the one year fixed
rate was the go for everybody. Now, thank you so much.
Jeremy Andrews. Jeremy is a mortgage broker from Key Mortgages.
It is five twenty four jobs. It's getting hard. It
is hard. We know it's hard to get jobs, but
(14:17):
it's particularly hard to get jobs if you're young and
if you're old. More on listen to moment the early.
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Speaker 2 (14:25):
It be New Talks B. It is five twenty seven.
Thank you for joining us. I'm Andrew Dickens. Suddenly it
is tough to get a job, which is quite amazing, really,
because you may remember a few years ago we had
jobs for everyone, and then some we had to import
people left, right and center. But now it's tough, and
yesterday we learned the teenagers in search of their first
job are struggling to land anything in the current employment market,
(14:46):
and some are searching for as long as two years.
It must be heartbreaking. You can see why we has
been talking about it with Jeremy before. In tough times,
you need experienced workers, and with so many experienced workers
losing their job, saying, there's a whole cohort of older
workers floating around. They're taking the jobs the youngsters used
to get, and you can't blame those older guys. You
(15:07):
need to ditch your humility and concentrate on cash flow
to survive in twenty twenty five. We all need money.
I'll take a job that's below me. But the older
generation is also fitting the heat. Old workers are finding
it harder and harder too. They may have the knowledge,
but boss is younger than them. Sit there and wonder
how many years have you got left in you? How
many years can you give the company? The souper is looming,
(15:27):
the kids have left home, the mortgage is paid. You
want to go fishing, don't you?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I might not put my money on you. It's said
that we need to be a meritocracy again. It said
that these days we need to hire the best person
for the job. Ditch the DEI, you know, the diversity,
equity and inclusion. Find the best person for the job,
no matter how old or young they are. Surely we
should be hiring the experienced guys, even if they can
(15:52):
only give five years, because they are experienced. And surely
we should be hiring the kids because they are a
great vestment. They will pay their way back to you
for the next twenty five years. So here's the message
to middle management in these tough times. I'll go for
an old guy or a young guy. Those guys in
the middle not so sure. Five twenty eight seconds. There
(16:14):
are sharks all over Sydney right now. The headlines were
in the Sydney Morning Herald, yesterday, warmer Sydney waters mean
a longest shark season and they're going into the harbor.
There are bull and tiger sharks all over the Sydney Harbor.
And now the headlines are also saying, maybe we need
to be putting in some nets that they do in
New Caledonia. Maybe we need to stop swimming in the
(16:34):
inner Cidny beaches. Blame the climate, blame the good weather. Whatever.
The sharks love Sydney right now. I mentioned that because
at the moment, Tony Demayo is joining us and a
teenager has died in a shark attack. Don't want to
freak you out or anything. I'm sure it's safe in
the water. Shark attacks are extraordinarily rare, but not for
this one teenager. So we'll have that story for you.
(16:56):
Talk about the Grammy Awards on the way as well,
because I don't know any of this, and I know music.
Is this a Grammy Award winner? It's a Chapel roone,
isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, oh okay, I know a
little bit of it. I'll tell you a little bit
more about that. And also should we be out of
the Paris Climate Accords? David Seymour Rickens he might campaign
on that. We'll talk about this before six. It's Early
(17:17):
Edition with Andrew Dickens on News Talk ZIBB.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
The News You Need this Morning and the in Depth
Analysis Early Edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
Your Property Search Simple, News Talk ZIBB.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
First, what is he? Welcome back to the program. So
glad you chose us. I'm Andrew Dickinson. For one bridge,
It's Beyonce, Cowboy Carter Texas hold him. She won the
Grammy Album Award finally, So the Grammys have come and gone,
and Kenny his wife forgot to wear Clothes and the
big winners in the Grammy Awards where people most of
us have never heard, let alone heard of. Critis described
(18:28):
the award winners as a return to a gender setting pop.
But who listens to pop for an agenda? So Chapel
Rome we played her just before the news. She's the
big new talent. She writes great songs. Cloak though in
a hysteria and a vocal gymnastic She's like, She's like
if you haven't heard her, She's like Kate Bush and
Cydey Lauper on Speed and also x rated often it's
(18:48):
hard to even figure out her words. Thank god for
Spotify's lyric service. Kendrick Lamar was the other big winner,
jazzy rapper. He hit pay dirt with a bitchy little
hit song about another rapper, Drake who's under a Peter
file cloud?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Now?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Who needs that playing on a pub's jukebox?
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Eh?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So feel free to feel old and I do. But
the glory days of pop saw songs that resonated with
many ages. They saw songs that you don't need a
subscription to a Hollywood gossip service to understand, which is
why you got the Grammys. On one side, but it's
now official that Coldplay and Taylor Swift are the biggest
artists on the planet after their tours. They write proper
(19:25):
pop songs, and yet they weren't the big winners and
the Grammys. Now. The big issue of the day came
from David Seymour again, the ACT leader. Seior Minister has
floated taking a policy of pulling New Zealand out of
the planet at Paris Climate Agreement, and he wants to
take that to the next election get a mandate, potentially
making Paris withdrawal an ACT election promise. What do you reckon?
(19:48):
You can text me ninety two ninety two, And now
Trump's done it already. Other big nations are considering. And
it's fair to say nobody understands the mechanism or the
point of the emission's trading scheme, which feels to me
like some sort of Ponzi scheme be roarted by someone.
I don't know who is watering it, but somebody is
pocketing all the money we send overseas. So is it
time to admit defeat and that we do ourselves no
(20:10):
favors by trying to lead the world from our tiny
and isolated position, or should we carry on? What do
you think? Ninety two ninety two, And we'll have more
on this just before six. It's twenty one to six.
Andrew dickens the country. We go Callum Proctor, Good morning
to you morning, Andrew. Tell me about the tyfire.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Well, this was the big blaze which started Thursday last week.
It's a huge cover twelve hundred hectares. Crews at the
scene still dampening down hotspots. Will South and Fire an
emergency now have an indication of what caused this large
scrub fire. They say it's thought to have been accidental
fire an emergency, saying prelim investigations point to an electrical
(20:51):
event involving a power line as the possible cause. Here,
they say, an in depth investigation will continue to determine
the full circumstance surrounding the Subjec fire. How's your weather,
callm It's mainly fine for today and today cloudy this afternoon.
Southerly's turned eastly at eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And I thank you and we go to chrash It's
Claire Sherwood, Good morning to you. Good morning, nig Tahoo
gets Christopher Luxem for White Tongy.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yeah, look, this is a rare occasion for night Tahoo.
This why tung Y Day. Christopher Luxon of course spending
the day at the Aka or Maraia. It's all Nukumdai
based on Banks Peninsula, probably about an hour and forty
five minutes from the city now. It is believed that
this is the first Prime Minister to visit or nuku
on Wy Tongy since Halen Clark in the year two thousand.
(21:35):
The event is open to the public. They are expecting
quite a crowd, which means, of course, lots of catering
to be organized and the rest of the hospitality too.
Runanga chair Rick Tainui says it's a great opportunity for
night Tahoo to spend some time with Christopher Luxeen. He
hopes Luxen will listen to the Corridor on the day
about the positive things and what's needed moving forward for
(21:56):
not only the EWEI but also the country.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And your weather.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Flatting over this morning there will be a spot of
drizzle before midday, afternoon, fine spells, southerlyes easing and a
high of twenty.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
A Max toll is in Wellington. Good body, Max. Good
Morning's politic going to close? Oh well, So this story
is about FITA and well Tech considering closing their central
creative campus Tekahuahua, a typic king essentially reviewing its assets
its properties around the country with the government looking to
(22:27):
set up regionally autonomous institutes of tech and polytechs. This
campus on Dixon Street had only opened in twenty eighteen.
It's very lavish inside. It's got two theaters. You can
go watch comedy shows there, for instance. It's got a
fifty five seat a cinema, a gallery, a performance studio,
but unfortunately four Fitada and well Tech its numbers are
(22:50):
way down post COVID. It says a significant drop in enrollments.
The Terseary Education Union warning that this proposal to close
this campus is effectively a gloomy sign of further trouble ahead. Wonderful,
how's your weather? Should we mainly find a bit of
cloud this afternoon? Southerly's twenty the high central neither if
(23:10):
your mind? Who now joins me from Auckland? Do you
want to go for dinner at Taicho?
Speaker 9 (23:13):
Good morning?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
No?
Speaker 9 (23:15):
I do not type people will be thinking what are
they talking about now? Yes, this Auckland Japanese restaurant. So
it's been at the center of this food borne disease.
But it's saying that it's cooperating with authorities following reports
of this outbreak. So what we know that the New
Zealand Food Safety was informed a number of people have
become unwell. So we don't have a figure on that,
(23:36):
but a few, quite a few. I can tell you
that this is in that outbreak. And those who outside
of Auckland, you know this Tycho Japanese restaurant, it's in
Ponsonby and that main area the are of where all
the eateries are so It says that this is the
New Zealand food safety saying, look, we've visited the restaurant
and working alongside Auckland Council to put corrective actions in
place if required. But you look on those online reviews
(24:00):
Andrew at the restaurant and so you know, lots of
people have put in their vomiting diarrhea O saying they've
had to go to hospital, to the emergency room.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Well, it's heartbreaking for them. I've actually eaten at Taycho
have you and I lived It was actually quite nice.
But you right, you have a bad day, You have
a bad day exactly, and it only takes one goat.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
And you don't go back. I mean, I've never been,
but you know obviously with us, you know you don't
want to poopoo things on that one. But yeah, Hawkin's weather, right,
it's fine apart from some morning cloud. To twenty five
is the.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
High good stuff Neiva Retto amount of seventeen minutes to
six Should we stay in the Paris Climate Accords? Luke
writes the biggest driver of man made climate change is
dot dot dot dot dot funding good text Luke Paul
rides Great from Seymour get out of that nonsense, bureaucratic
elitist talk fest, and Ollie rides a payment of a
(24:51):
foreign tax is not going to save us. Pragmatic use
of our resources with the New Zealand will happy days.
Thank you so much, Ollie. More on this just before six.
Donald to Mayo is.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's fourteen to six, fourteen minutes away from the make
Hostking breakfast and we go off to Australia and Donna Demayo, Hello, Donna,
good morning. All right, it's all about sharks. One kid's
dead and another woman attacked in Sydney right by the
Opera House.
Speaker 10 (25:23):
Oh, this is dreadful to hear that a seventeen year
old has lost her life. She was swimming at Bribie Island,
north of Brisbane late yesterday afternoon and we hear that
there were injuries to her upper body. Surf Life Saving
were on duty at the time. Paramedics headed to Wooham
(25:44):
Beach and unfortunately the young woman, this seventeen year old,
died from her injuries. This is the place very popular
with locals. They swim there, they serve there they go.
Fishing also very popular with tourists on the southeast side
of the island, which is what is called an open
surf beach. The other side is more calm. Admittedly now
(26:06):
it's reported that there were drum lines actually in place. Also,
it's supposed to catch sharks using bait and large hooks,
and the locals already said that, look, they know that
there are a lot of sharks in those waters, but
it's the shock that this shark got so close to shore.
Third shark attack in Queensland in less than three months,
(26:28):
and it's the second fatal shark attack in just over
a month.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
All right. Meanwhile, Neo Nazi's suffering given more of a
crackdown in Australia.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
Yes, the Labor government has rolled out these new sanctions
for Nia Nazi groups, targeting these white supremacist groups in
the wake of a raft of anti Semitism and a
spate of it. So Foreign Mister Petty Wong says that
the government needs to use all the tools to tackle antisemitism,
So they're focusing on something called Terragram, which is an
online network that enables these groups to bred hate, she says,
(27:01):
and this is an example of what she says, using
all those tools to prevent the rise of extremism. So
these sanctions mean now that any engagement with Terogram is
a criminal offense. And if you're fan ten years in prison.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Donald Demayo out of Australia, I thank you. It is
our twelve to six Dickens all right. New Zealand's future
involvement in the Paris Agreement is up in the air.
David Seymour has hinted that ACT may campaign on leaving
the accord after the twenty twenty six election. Now, Donald
Trump's already pulled the United States from the scheme and
has fortnight of action, and there's concerned that other big
(27:37):
admitters could pack their bags too. Talks it up to
fifty percent of the people. It might be countries might
be leaving now. The Associate Professor of Environmental Law at
the University of Wayhadow is doctor Nathan John Cooper, who
joins me. Now, hell, Nathan.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Kyoto, good morning.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Is the whole agreement in trouble with so many people
saying we're pulling.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Out, Well, I think that's premature. One of the great
successes of the Paris Agreement was just how many countries
signed up, and so while while obviously the US has
signaled that it's beginning to withdraw, I think the vast
majority of countries are going to remain in that framework
for the CIBUL future.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
But if the bigger MISSUS leave, you know, if the
US leaves as it already has, if China and India
decided to scalper, why should a little old New Zealand stay?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Well, I don't think China, India or Russia are likely
to leave. However, I think climate change, which obviously is
the big challenge that the Paris Agreement is there to
respond to, it's a global challenge, and so it really
doesn't make sense for individual countries to move away from
(28:46):
a framework that pulls together our contributions, coordinates things, monitors
them in favor of just some sort of independent action.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
But is it fit to say that a lot of
people have fallen out of the Paris Climate Accords because
of the mechanisms use to combat climate change, that they
feel theoretical, that they don't feel like they're actually going
to make any change, and they're expensive.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Sure, there's no doubt that some of the action that's
required is expensive. And it's inconvenient as we transition towards
sort of low carbon options. That's all pretty inconvenient, but
at the end of the day, that needs to be
balanced against the size of the problem that's being faced.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I know the problem, I know their problem. But does
the other climate accords the solution? Are they working? Have
we seen any of these these mechanisms work?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I suppose it depends what you mean by work. Ultimately,
the Paris agreement's there to try to strengthen global response
to climate change, principally by limiting global average temperature rise. Now,
we saw in twenty twenty four that actually, over the
course of that year the average temperature rise compared to
period industrial levels was around about that one point five degrees,
which has always been the sort of first Paris Paris target.
(30:06):
So in that respect, the world is warming, it's warming
quicker than we wanted to, and so you could say
that it's not succeeding. But if we look a little
bit deeper as to why maybe there's less success under
the Paris Agreement than we would have liked, a lot
of it is that commitments are made by countries, but
that we don't actually follow through with those commitments, so.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
In which case it doesn't work. So people it's what
people will say is it's virtue signaling. We go to
a meeting, we say big stuff, we do nothing, So
what's the point.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Sure, I think there's a long way between doing everything
that's required and the alternatives doing nothing. So countries are
stepping up, and it's been encouraging to see recently that
some countries newly announced nationally determined contributions they're kind of
pledged for the next round of emissions reductions have been
(31:03):
pretty ambitious. Unfortunately, I don't think New Zealand's own pledgure
has been as ambitious as it could have been.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
But there's definitely a big car.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Sorry no, but there's definitely quite a lot of examples
there as to how the Paris Agreement is encouraging countries
to step up in a way that we've never seen before.
I mean, this is the biggest, it's the biggest climate agreement,
is the biggest international treaty that we've seen.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
All right, Doctor Nathan John Cooper, I thank you for
your time. Associate Professor of Environmental Law, University of Waykota.
David Seymour is wanting to leave and now, of course
he becomes the acting Prime Minister, doesn't he He's the
deputy from now on. And this is going to put
Christopher luxon and yet another interesting position. So we'll wait
to see about that. You can tax ninety two to
(31:56):
ninety two, and I can tell you are if you
have something to say about this. Seven to six.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Consider the first word on the News of the Day
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Speaker 2 (32:14):
You talk zippy, Yeah, you don't like it. We should
pull out of the Paris Agreement before it bankrupts us
Saul who says it's a global wealth transfer system. Ben
wanted me to ask the professor of environmental law what
has the money been spent on so far? And Brent reckons,
thank god, a little sense of the world. We should
pull out of the Climate Accord. Doesn't make a difference
to the climate. No, does it cost us money?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Why are we in a politics? Let's tackle real pollution?
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Ninety two ninety two, Small charge of players. Mike Cosking
call morning.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
I will be asking, funnily enough, the Prime Minister, who
will be in this very studio this morning about the
B and Z speaking of climate change and their desire
to close down legitimate businesses as a result of Paris.
So if we pull out of Paris be interesting to think,
isn't it? Because Seymour taps into that zeitgeist and there's
a certain percentage of people who will be going about time.
(33:04):
Fantastic good on him.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Graham's just said, mister Seymour has hit the nail straight again.
Speaker 11 (33:09):
Problem is they said that a lot before the last
election on a lot of different things. Treaty Principles Bill
is probably a good example, but they don't get the vote.
You know, it's all very well going, Yes, go David
and all that sort of stuff. At eight percent? Eight percent,
isn't it at the end of the day. But Prime
Minister's on the program do you want to play but
a quick pop quiz? And I'm being unfair to you. Yeah,
but I'm only I'm only doing this because you're a
music person.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, but I've already ranted about the Grammys. I'm not
happy about the Grammys. It doesn't like the music and
the Grammys.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
Greg Johnson, Greg Johnson, Yeah, what was his third album?
Oh Jesus Hotel, No good, good, guess good guess by Vine.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Streets, Sinestree Stories. Where did he record that?
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Don't know?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
In the basement of his home?
Speaker 11 (33:50):
Yes, and Vine he rolled a grand piano.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yes, well done. There we go? And where is Vine Street? St?
Mary's Bay? I thought in the monopoly we used to
we used to teach them about that. Oh, Greg, you're
a struggling musician, struggling in Saint Mary's Bay? Are we here?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
We go?
Speaker 11 (34:07):
Anyway, I'm gonna tell you that he's on the program
today because we get to the country for another two
and he was close to the fires. Yes, he was,
very much so you evacuated.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Good morning to you, welcome into the program. One more
sleep and then you're on holiday. But we've got a
program to do and coming up in the next hour.
We're getting lost at sea and in the bush more
than ever and we're spending a fortune finding you. So
what's happening with search and rescue. We'll do that in
five minutes time. Economic data from December shows the bite
is real and the road to recovery as long how
(00:34):
to survive in twenty twenty five and ten minutes time.
And David Seymour is considering campaigning on withdrawing from the
Paris Accords. Have they done their time or is there
something salgeable and they fight against pollution and its impact
on the environment. We'll have that story just before six.
We'll have correspondences from around the world and around New
Zealand and news as it breaks. You can have your
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seven U to five.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So it is Tuesday, the fourth of February, and first
to the United States, where the trade war continues. The
Trump administration has agreed to pause sweeping tariffs of Mexico
for a month. This is while the two sides hammer
out an agreement on security and trade. However, Trump's not
stopping with the tariffs. He says the EU could be next.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It will definitely happen with the European Union. I could
tell you that because.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
They've really taken advantage of I said, you know, we.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Have over a three hundred billion dollar deficents.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
They take almost nothing and we take everything from them.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, French President Emmanuel Macron took up the challenge. He said,
if the EU's commercial interests were attacked, it would have
to make itself respected and therefore it would have to react.
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who has arrived in the
United States and he is going to be the very
first foreign leader to meet Donald Trump since he returned
(01:57):
to the White House two weeks ago, which you have
to say is a bit of a sub Nisa. Yahoo
will begin his first meeting with US Middle East Envoy
Steve Witcoff later on today.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
President Trump has been making it very clear that he
wants to see an end to the wars in the
Middle East or we've had, the Israeli Prime Minister saying
repeatedly to his domestic audience, Israel does reserve the right
to return to fighting.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Now back home, and Treasury has sent a strong warning
to the government. It says significant reform and reductions to
public services will be needed in the not too distant
future if the government sticks to its current restricted spending track. Well,
Nikola Willis says she believes the projections which extended fifteen
years into the future what she calls highly uncertain. And finally,
(02:44):
to some music cam Beyonce took home Album of the
Year at the sixty seventh Grammy Awards in Los Angeles. Finally, finally,
so Kenya didn't have to come up and complain. Meanwhile,
there was speeches because the whole thing was about La.
The city Firefighter Fleet was presented an award as a
tribute to the Los Angeles wildfires.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's been many, many years.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Every songwriter, every collaborator, every producer, all of the hard work.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
There we go and that is Beyonce it's nine after
five dickens. So the government told us a lot that
New Zealanders say no too much, and they've spent their
first year saying no a lot, which I was surprised
that one of the first things they said no to
and stopped in its track was the ent islander replacement
program that's known as IREX. After ordering some fairies, kiri
(03:37):
Row went back to the government wanting an unlimited check
to build some wolves. Now Labor first heard about it,
they didn't say no, But then again they didn't say
yes either. The National government gave a very loud no,
canceled the ships and the wolves. And that's a very
important point. The ships were bought and they are a goodbye.
They were a good price. The wharves didn't cost a
heat because they needed to be bigger. What blew the
(03:58):
budget was earthquakes and making the wharves used by both
Bluebridge and Kiwi Rail and two state of the arts
very fancy terminals, and that was expensive. But Nicola Willis
halted the whole lot, ships and all. Now there has
to be an answer. We know this because billions of
dollars worth of trade crosses every year, and yet there
seems no urgency because the latest in this saga is
(04:20):
from Business Desk, who revealed yesterday the government has yet
to establish the company it said it was setting up
to buy the ferries. The Finance Minister announced that they
would do that back on December the eleventh. It has
not happened yet. It's a critical part of the deal
and the creation of a schedule for company is needed
if the government is thinking about creating a state owned
(04:41):
enterprise out of Kiwi Rail in a drive towards privatization,
as suggested by Richard Prebble. So with these things, time
is of the essence, but the government seems unaware of
the pressure and goodness knows what's happening with that schedule
for company. This is a terrible saga because it drags on,
partly because the government has a pathological dislike of everything
the previous government did, but also because it's being a
(05:02):
bit tardy and it's spade work. So Nicola, don't say no,
just say yes, because we voted for grown ups and
prove in financial management. But most of all, we voted
for an aspirational country.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Andrew Dickens is.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Eleven a half to five. We're waiting for relief. By
the way, we've got some new economic data out. It
comes from CENTRICX. It's for December. Personal loan areas rose
by nine point two percent in December by now pay
Later arreas rose eight point two percent. Residential mortgage areas
were up seven percent. Reported financial hardships up nineteen percent,
half of them related to mortgage repayment difficulties. Construction has
(05:40):
been hard hit defaults, some liquidations up forty percent. Residential
new home builders recorded the highest number of annual liquidations,
two hundred and thirty five of them. Two hundred and
thirty five builders went down over twelve months. Transport industry
hit as well, a whole load of liquidations there, one
hundred and thirty one transport companies gone. The pinch is
(06:01):
real and the recovery is a waiting game. So look,
we're going to look at just how we can survive
in twenty twenty five. Some handy hacks on how to
survive it in twenty twenty five in ten minutes time.
But next, why are we getting lost so much? We're
talking search and rescue.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
News and views you trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your
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Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's a quarter right for five now, Over the last
six months, there's been a significant increase in search and
rescue operations. This is compared to the year before. Land
Search and Rescue say they've seen a twenty three percent
increase in the demand for services and a twenty three
percent increase in the number of people being assisted. We're
getting lost and it costs to save us. So Chief
(06:48):
Development and Project Officer Johnny Franklin is joining me now.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Hello, Johnny, Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
How are you good?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Why are we getting lost?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
That's a really good question. The data for that last
six months or so, it's still a bit fresh, so
we've not had an opportunity to analyze it, so it's
probably quite difficult for us to answer that at the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, what kind of operations are they.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
There's a variety of operations, you know, the typical things
that people to expect. Land search a message to be
involved in the alpine environment of the bush environments, but
also we get involved in operations in urban areas for
people who may have cognitive conditions, and that accounts about
twenty five percent of our operations, and obviously as our
(07:33):
population gets older, that percentage increases.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Why you're still analyzing the figures, it's you know, it's
very tempting to say we're getting more tourists again, and
more tourists are doing this the appropriate you know, preparation
before they go into these difficult environments.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I think, you know, we are seeing an increase in
a number of international tourists coming to New Zealand, but
we're still not at the same levels as we were
pre COVID.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And yet.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We're still seeing that increase at the moment. And we
also have to remember that, you know, this number of
tourists only accounts for fifteen percent of such a rescue operations.
You know, that still wouldn't account for this huge increase
that we've but still addition in the last six months.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But still the numbers go up and we have to
find them and we have to save them. Therefore, you
have to have enough money to do it, and you
have to have enough people. So what does this mean
for the amount of volunteers you're having to deploy.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Well, obviously the number of volunteers deploying goes up with
the number of instances occurring. We have sufficient volunteers At
the moment, we have three thousand, three hundred volunteers around
the country. But you know, they give up their time
and that's their most valuable asset, and we are currently
expecting them to provide most of the equipment, which places
a huge financial burden on them. So, you know, over time,
(08:56):
that makes it more difficult for us recruit.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And do you have enough people?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
We do have enough people at the moment, but I think,
you know, for the longevity and the sustainability of the organization,
removing those barriers to recruitment is the only way that
we can probably continue to be able to provide that
service in the future.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And how sustainable is your funding model? These increases you
need more money even though you depend on volunteers. So
how sustainable is your funding model?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Well, I think at the moment we're able to well,
we're very fortunate to receive eight point seven eight point
seven eight million from the government, but in order to
fully equip all of our volunteers and provide a fully
funded service, that would probably that cost about twenty five
million dollars we estimate, and we're able to make up
(09:45):
some of that funding by you know, local charitable trusts, etc.
But the volunteers do bear the vast majority of underspend themselves.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, Johnny, could you thank the more for us? You
guys do amazing work and great work and we will.
Where would we be without thank you for everything you've done.
That's Johnny Franklin, Chief Development and Project officer from New
Zealand Land Search and Rescue. And don't forget the simple stuff.
Take a knee perb. I mean, have you ever thought
about a one mobile phone? Now they've got the starlink
and tell people where you're going, and don't be silly,
(10:16):
don't get lost. It is eighteen after five. It's a
hard year. We know this and the figures out us
out of December only prove that. So how do you
get through? We're going to talk to a mortgage broker
at a few moments time as we head into twenty
twenty five and how you can survive.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
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Speaker 2 (10:38):
It is five twenty one, so Kiyi's as still waiting
to see a shift in the economy. We know it,
we feel it, and now we've got facts New Centric
data out this morning shows reported financial hardship increased nineteen
percent in the past year, and most of those cases
were down to mortgage repayment issues. The mortgage is killing us.
So I've got a mortgage broker on the line right now.
(10:59):
He's from Key Mortgae. It's Jeremy Andrews. Hello, Jeremy, Morning,
andrew A. Were you surprised by the nineteen percent figure?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Not too surprising, could have been higher, I guess a
lot of I guess a lot of that's a lot
of that is from mortgages, people going through kind of hardship.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So, in other words, you know that the economy is
a bit tanky at the moment, and so you were
expecting a nineteen percent. It's still not a good number
the way it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
It's been pretty hard out there, especially businesses. Last five
years or so, it's been a pretty hard run. They've
been COVID supply chain issues, lockdowns rates after that, rates
have gone from kind of record loads to the highest
a lot of those new businesses would have seen.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And all those people are wanting it to improve soon.
And can you see improvement in the next coming months
or is this going to be a medium term thing.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
So, so from the interest rate perspective, yeah, that's that
is slowly getting better, but it's not it's not going
to be a magic turnaround. I think that the hardship
levels there is still going to continue on for But
there's a lot of hurts out there. Stillest rates really high.
(12:20):
It was still still reduced, I guess as people buyers
and consumers are still struggling to afford things and spend
as much as they used to.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Well, here's the thing though, here's the thing that the
ocr is coming up, And yesterday all the news was
about Trump's tariffs and suggesting that maybe a too too
dramatic drop in the in the interest rate might not
be in our in our favor, and therefore the interest
rates could stay high for a while. So there are
a lot of people out there right now with mortgages
thinking to themselves, what on earth do I do? What
(12:51):
would you what would you suggest?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yes, so we've seen quite a bit of changes in
the last six months gone. It's gone from kind of
not planned to reduce them to quite quickly reduce them.
But the fixed rates maybe haven't come down quite as
much as people were hoping or as quickly. It's just
in the last week there's been quite a bit more
(13:18):
dramatic shifts. So we're now getting interest rates kind of
down around the kind of early to mid fives or
that kind of short short term. I'll probably suggest that
most people, yeah, edge your bets, don't necessarily just hope
that rates just can continue to free fall and keep dropping,
maybe fixing some of your loans that more more midterm.
(13:43):
A lot of people, a lot of people are actually holding
off and floating over the last six months. I don't
think I've ever seen so many people on floating just
hoping for rates to really go well.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'll take that. I'll take that as a vote of
confidence by the New Zealand people to into floating because
they believe that things are going to get better, because
just a month or so ago, the one year fixed
rate was the go for everybody. Now, thank you so much.
Jeremy Andrews. Jeremy is a mortgage broker from Key Mortgages.
It is five twenty four jobs. It's getting hard. It
is hard. We know it's hard to get jobs, but
(14:17):
it's particularly hard to get jobs if you're young and
if you're old. More on listen to moment the early.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
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Speaker 2 (14:25):
It be New Talks B. It is five twenty seven.
Thank you for joining us. I'm Andrew Dickens. Suddenly it
is tough to get a job, which is quite amazing, really,
because you may remember a few years ago we had
jobs for everyone, and then some we had to import
people left, right and center. But now it's tough, and
yesterday we learned the teenagers in search of their first
job are struggling to land anything in the current employment market,
(14:46):
and some are searching for as long as two years.
It must be heartbreaking. You can see why we has
been talking about it with Jeremy before. In tough times,
you need experienced workers, and with so many experienced workers
losing their job, saying, there's a whole cohort of older
workers floating around. They're taking the jobs the youngsters used
to get, and you can't blame those older guys. You
(15:07):
need to ditch your humility and concentrate on cash flow
to survive in twenty twenty five. We all need money.
I'll take a job that's below me. But the older
generation is also fitting the heat. Old workers are finding
it harder and harder too. They may have the knowledge,
but boss is younger than them. Sit there and wonder
how many years have you got left in you? How
many years can you give the company? The souper is looming,
(15:27):
the kids have left home, the mortgage is paid. You
want to go fishing, don't you?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I might not put my money on you. It's said
that we need to be a meritocracy again. It said
that these days we need to hire the best person
for the job. Ditch the DEI, you know, the diversity,
equity and inclusion. Find the best person for the job,
no matter how old or young they are. Surely we
should be hiring the experienced guys, even if they can
(15:52):
only give five years, because they are experienced. And surely
we should be hiring the kids because they are a
great vestment. They will pay their way back to you
for the next twenty five years. So here's the message
to middle management in these tough times. I'll go for
an old guy or a young guy. Those guys in
the middle not so sure. Five twenty eight seconds. There
(16:14):
are sharks all over Sydney right now. The headlines were
in the Sydney Morning Herald, yesterday, warmer Sydney waters mean
a longest shark season and they're going into the harbor.
There are bull and tiger sharks all over the Sydney Harbor.
And now the headlines are also saying, maybe we need
to be putting in some nets that they do in
New Caledonia. Maybe we need to stop swimming in the
(16:34):
inner Cidny beaches. Blame the climate, blame the good weather. Whatever.
The sharks love Sydney right now. I mentioned that because
at the moment, Tony Demayo is joining us and a
teenager has died in a shark attack. Don't want to
freak you out or anything. I'm sure it's safe in
the water. Shark attacks are extraordinarily rare, but not for
this one teenager. So we'll have that story for you.
(16:56):
Talk about the Grammy Awards on the way as well,
because I don't know any of this, and I know music.
Is this a Grammy Award winner? It's a Chapel roone,
isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, oh okay, I know a
little bit of it. I'll tell you a little bit
more about that. And also should we be out of
the Paris Climate Accords? David Seymour Rickens he might campaign
on that. We'll talk about this before six. It's Early
(17:17):
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Speaker 2 (18:05):
First, what is he? Welcome back to the program. So
glad you chose us. I'm Andrew Dickinson. For one bridge,
It's Beyonce, Cowboy Carter Texas hold him. She won the
Grammy Album Award finally, So the Grammys have come and gone,
and Kenny his wife forgot to wear Clothes and the
big winners in the Grammy Awards where people most of
us have never heard, let alone heard of. Critis described
(18:28):
the award winners as a return to a gender setting pop.
But who listens to pop for an agenda? So Chapel
Rome we played her just before the news. She's the
big new talent. She writes great songs. Cloak though in
a hysteria and a vocal gymnastic She's like, She's like
if you haven't heard her, She's like Kate Bush and
Cydey Lauper on Speed and also x rated often it's
(18:48):
hard to even figure out her words. Thank god for
Spotify's lyric service. Kendrick Lamar was the other big winner,
jazzy rapper. He hit pay dirt with a bitchy little
hit song about another rapper, Drake who's under a Peter
file cloud?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Now?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Who needs that playing on a pub's jukebox?
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Eh?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So feel free to feel old and I do. But
the glory days of pop saw songs that resonated with
many ages. They saw songs that you don't need a
subscription to a Hollywood gossip service to understand, which is
why you got the Grammys. On one side, but it's
now official that Coldplay and Taylor Swift are the biggest
artists on the planet after their tours. They write proper
(19:25):
pop songs, and yet they weren't the big winners and
the Grammys. Now. The big issue of the day came
from David Seymour again, the ACT leader. Seior Minister has
floated taking a policy of pulling New Zealand out of
the planet at Paris Climate Agreement, and he wants to
take that to the next election get a mandate, potentially
making Paris withdrawal an ACT election promise. What do you reckon?
(19:48):
You can text me ninety two ninety two, And now
Trump's done it already. Other big nations are considering. And
it's fair to say nobody understands the mechanism or the
point of the emission's trading scheme, which feels to me
like some sort of Ponzi scheme be roarted by someone.
I don't know who is watering it, but somebody is
pocketing all the money we send overseas. So is it
time to admit defeat and that we do ourselves no
(20:10):
favors by trying to lead the world from our tiny
and isolated position, or should we carry on? What do
you think? Ninety two ninety two, And we'll have more
on this just before six. It's twenty one to six.
Andrew dickens the country. We go Callum Proctor, Good morning
to you morning, Andrew. Tell me about the tyfire.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Well, this was the big blaze which started Thursday last week.
It's a huge cover twelve hundred hectares. Crews at the
scene still dampening down hotspots. Will South and Fire an
emergency now have an indication of what caused this large
scrub fire. They say it's thought to have been accidental
fire an emergency, saying prelim investigations point to an electrical
(20:51):
event involving a power line as the possible cause. Here,
they say, an in depth investigation will continue to determine
the full circumstance surrounding the Subjec fire. How's your weather,
callm It's mainly fine for today and today cloudy this afternoon.
Southerly's turned eastly at eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And I thank you and we go to chrash It's
Claire Sherwood, Good morning to you. Good morning, nig Tahoo
gets Christopher Luxem for White Tongy.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yeah, look, this is a rare occasion for night Tahoo.
This why tung Y Day. Christopher Luxon of course spending
the day at the Aka or Maraia. It's all Nukumdai
based on Banks Peninsula, probably about an hour and forty
five minutes from the city now. It is believed that
this is the first Prime Minister to visit or nuku
on Wy Tongy since Halen Clark in the year two thousand.
(21:35):
The event is open to the public. They are expecting
quite a crowd, which means, of course, lots of catering
to be organized and the rest of the hospitality too.
Runanga chair Rick Tainui says it's a great opportunity for
night Tahoo to spend some time with Christopher Luxeen. He
hopes Luxen will listen to the Corridor on the day
about the positive things and what's needed moving forward for
(21:56):
not only the EWEI but also the country.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And your weather.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Flatting over this morning there will be a spot of
drizzle before midday, afternoon, fine spells, southerlyes easing and a
high of twenty.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
A Max toll is in Wellington. Good body, Max. Good
Morning's politic going to close? Oh well, So this story
is about FITA and well Tech considering closing their central
creative campus Tekahuahua, a typic king essentially reviewing its assets
its properties around the country with the government looking to
(22:27):
set up regionally autonomous institutes of tech and polytechs. This
campus on Dixon Street had only opened in twenty eighteen.
It's very lavish inside. It's got two theaters. You can
go watch comedy shows there, for instance. It's got a
fifty five seat a cinema, a gallery, a performance studio,
but unfortunately four Fitada and well Tech its numbers are
(22:50):
way down post COVID. It says a significant drop in enrollments.
The Terseary Education Union warning that this proposal to close
this campus is effectively a gloomy sign of further trouble ahead. Wonderful,
how's your weather? Should we mainly find a bit of
cloud this afternoon? Southerly's twenty the high central neither if
(23:10):
your mind? Who now joins me from Auckland? Do you
want to go for dinner at Taicho?
Speaker 9 (23:13):
Good morning?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
No?
Speaker 9 (23:15):
I do not type people will be thinking what are
they talking about now? Yes, this Auckland Japanese restaurant. So
it's been at the center of this food borne disease.
But it's saying that it's cooperating with authorities following reports
of this outbreak. So what we know that the New
Zealand Food Safety was informed a number of people have
become unwell. So we don't have a figure on that,
(23:36):
but a few, quite a few. I can tell you
that this is in that outbreak. And those who outside
of Auckland, you know this Tycho Japanese restaurant, it's in
Ponsonby and that main area the are of where all
the eateries are so It says that this is the
New Zealand food safety saying, look, we've visited the restaurant
and working alongside Auckland Council to put corrective actions in
place if required. But you look on those online reviews
(24:00):
Andrew at the restaurant and so you know, lots of
people have put in their vomiting diarrhea O saying they've
had to go to hospital, to the emergency room.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Well, it's heartbreaking for them. I've actually eaten at Taycho
have you and I lived It was actually quite nice.
But you right, you have a bad day, You have
a bad day exactly, and it only takes one goat.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
And you don't go back. I mean, I've never been,
but you know obviously with us, you know you don't
want to poopoo things on that one. But yeah, Hawkin's weather, right,
it's fine apart from some morning cloud. To twenty five
is the.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
High good stuff Neiva Retto amount of seventeen minutes to
six Should we stay in the Paris Climate Accords? Luke
writes the biggest driver of man made climate change is
dot dot dot dot dot funding good text Luke Paul
rides Great from Seymour get out of that nonsense, bureaucratic
elitist talk fest, and Ollie rides a payment of a
(24:51):
foreign tax is not going to save us. Pragmatic use
of our resources with the New Zealand will happy days.
Thank you so much, Ollie. More on this just before six.
Donald to Mayo is.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's fourteen to six, fourteen minutes away from the make
Hostking breakfast and we go off to Australia and Donna Demayo, Hello, Donna,
good morning. All right, it's all about sharks. One kid's
dead and another woman attacked in Sydney right by the
Opera House.
Speaker 10 (25:23):
Oh, this is dreadful to hear that a seventeen year
old has lost her life. She was swimming at Bribie Island,
north of Brisbane late yesterday afternoon and we hear that
there were injuries to her upper body. Surf Life Saving
were on duty at the time. Paramedics headed to Wooham
(25:44):
Beach and unfortunately the young woman, this seventeen year old,
died from her injuries. This is the place very popular
with locals. They swim there, they serve there they go.
Fishing also very popular with tourists on the southeast side
of the island, which is what is called an open
surf beach. The other side is more calm. Admittedly now
(26:06):
it's reported that there were drum lines actually in place. Also,
it's supposed to catch sharks using bait and large hooks,
and the locals already said that, look, they know that
there are a lot of sharks in those waters, but
it's the shock that this shark got so close to shore.
Third shark attack in Queensland in less than three months,
(26:28):
and it's the second fatal shark attack in just over
a month.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
All right. Meanwhile, Neo Nazi's suffering given more of a
crackdown in Australia.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
Yes, the Labor government has rolled out these new sanctions
for Nia Nazi groups, targeting these white supremacist groups in
the wake of a raft of anti Semitism and a
spate of it. So Foreign Mister Petty Wong says that
the government needs to use all the tools to tackle antisemitism,
So they're focusing on something called Terragram, which is an
online network that enables these groups to bred hate, she says,
(27:01):
and this is an example of what she says, using
all those tools to prevent the rise of extremism. So
these sanctions mean now that any engagement with Terogram is
a criminal offense. And if you're fan ten years in prison.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Donald Demayo out of Australia, I thank you. It is
our twelve to six Dickens all right. New Zealand's future
involvement in the Paris Agreement is up in the air.
David Seymour has hinted that ACT may campaign on leaving
the accord after the twenty twenty six election. Now, Donald
Trump's already pulled the United States from the scheme and
has fortnight of action, and there's concerned that other big
(27:37):
admitters could pack their bags too. Talks it up to
fifty percent of the people. It might be countries might
be leaving now. The Associate Professor of Environmental Law at
the University of Wayhadow is doctor Nathan John Cooper, who
joins me. Now, hell, Nathan.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Kyoto, good morning.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Is the whole agreement in trouble with so many people
saying we're pulling.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Out, Well, I think that's premature. One of the great
successes of the Paris Agreement was just how many countries
signed up, and so while while obviously the US has
signaled that it's beginning to withdraw, I think the vast
majority of countries are going to remain in that framework
for the CIBUL future.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
But if the bigger MISSUS leave, you know, if the
US leaves as it already has, if China and India
decided to scalper, why should a little old New Zealand stay?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Well, I don't think China, India or Russia are likely
to leave. However, I think climate change, which obviously is
the big challenge that the Paris Agreement is there to
respond to, it's a global challenge, and so it really
doesn't make sense for individual countries to move away from
(28:46):
a framework that pulls together our contributions, coordinates things, monitors
them in favor of just some sort of independent action.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
But is it fit to say that a lot of
people have fallen out of the Paris Climate Accords because
of the mechanisms use to combat climate change, that they
feel theoretical, that they don't feel like they're actually going
to make any change, and they're expensive.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Sure, there's no doubt that some of the action that's
required is expensive. And it's inconvenient as we transition towards
sort of low carbon options. That's all pretty inconvenient, but
at the end of the day, that needs to be
balanced against the size of the problem that's being faced.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I know the problem, I know their problem. But does
the other climate accords the solution? Are they working? Have
we seen any of these these mechanisms work?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I suppose it depends what you mean by work. Ultimately,
the Paris agreement's there to try to strengthen global response
to climate change, principally by limiting global average temperature rise. Now,
we saw in twenty twenty four that actually, over the
course of that year the average temperature rise compared to
period industrial levels was around about that one point five degrees,
which has always been the sort of first Paris Paris target.
(30:06):
So in that respect, the world is warming, it's warming
quicker than we wanted to, and so you could say
that it's not succeeding. But if we look a little
bit deeper as to why maybe there's less success under
the Paris Agreement than we would have liked, a lot
of it is that commitments are made by countries, but
that we don't actually follow through with those commitments, so.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
In which case it doesn't work. So people it's what
people will say is it's virtue signaling. We go to
a meeting, we say big stuff, we do nothing, So
what's the point.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Sure, I think there's a long way between doing everything
that's required and the alternatives doing nothing. So countries are
stepping up, and it's been encouraging to see recently that
some countries newly announced nationally determined contributions they're kind of
pledged for the next round of emissions reductions have been
(31:03):
pretty ambitious. Unfortunately, I don't think New Zealand's own pledgure
has been as ambitious as it could have been.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
But there's definitely a big car.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Sorry no, but there's definitely quite a lot of examples
there as to how the Paris Agreement is encouraging countries
to step up in a way that we've never seen before.
I mean, this is the biggest, it's the biggest climate agreement,
is the biggest international treaty that we've seen.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
All right, Doctor Nathan John Cooper, I thank you for
your time. Associate Professor of Environmental Law, University of Waykota.
David Seymour is wanting to leave and now, of course
he becomes the acting Prime Minister, doesn't he He's the
deputy from now on. And this is going to put
Christopher luxon and yet another interesting position. So we'll wait
to see about that. You can tax ninety two to
(31:56):
ninety two, and I can tell you are if you
have something to say about this. Seven to six.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Consider the first word on the News of the Day
early edition with Andrew Dickens and one room to make
your property search and simple.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
You talk zippy, Yeah, you don't like it. We should
pull out of the Paris Agreement before it bankrupts us
Saul who says it's a global wealth transfer system. Ben
wanted me to ask the professor of environmental law what
has the money been spent on so far? And Brent reckons,
thank god, a little sense of the world. We should
pull out of the Climate Accord. Doesn't make a difference
to the climate. No, does it cost us money?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Why are we in a politics? Let's tackle real pollution?
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Ninety two ninety two, Small charge of players. Mike Cosking
call morning.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
I will be asking, funnily enough, the Prime Minister, who
will be in this very studio this morning about the
B and Z speaking of climate change and their desire
to close down legitimate businesses as a result of Paris.
So if we pull out of Paris be interesting to think,
isn't it? Because Seymour taps into that zeitgeist and there's
a certain percentage of people who will be going about time.
(33:04):
Fantastic good on him.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Graham's just said, mister Seymour has hit the nail straight again.
Speaker 11 (33:09):
Problem is they said that a lot before the last
election on a lot of different things. Treaty Principles Bill
is probably a good example, but they don't get the vote.
You know, it's all very well going, Yes, go David
and all that sort of stuff. At eight percent? Eight percent,
isn't it at the end of the day. But Prime
Minister's on the program do you want to play but
a quick pop quiz? And I'm being unfair to you. Yeah,
but I'm only I'm only doing this because you're a
music person.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, but I've already ranted about the Grammys. I'm not
happy about the Grammys. It doesn't like the music and
the Grammys.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
Greg Johnson, Greg Johnson, Yeah, what was his third album?
Oh Jesus Hotel, No good, good, guess good guess by Vine.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Streets, Sinestree Stories. Where did he record that?
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Don't know?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
In the basement of his home?
Speaker 11 (33:50):
Yes, and Vine he rolled a grand piano.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yes, well done. There we go? And where is Vine Street? St?
Mary's Bay? I thought in the monopoly we used to
we used to teach them about that. Oh, Greg, you're
a struggling musician, struggling in Saint Mary's Bay? Are we here?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
We go?
Speaker 11 (34:07):
Anyway, I'm gonna tell you that he's on the program
today because we get to the country for another two
and he was close to the fires. Yes, he was,
very much so you evacuated.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
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