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Good morning to you, welcome to the program. Thank you
so much for choosing us today. In the next hour,
first the food got criticized. Now a provider has gone bust.
What's right and what's wrong about our school lunch program
will have a principle for you in five minutes time.
Quantus is changing its auty scheme. It's going to be
a change is if you're in air New Zealand loyal flyer,
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you can properly get the Quantus Loyal Fliers. We'll explain
the details and what it will mean for travelers in
about ten minutes time. And if you want a bid
for government work, then the hoops you need to jump
through are going to be reduced. So how much of
a difference will that make to New Zealand companies and
international tenders. We'll have that story just before six. We'll
have correspondence from right around the world and all around
New Zealand and news as it breaks, and you can
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text anytime you like. And the number is ninety two
ninety two as small charge does apply. It's seven AUF
to five. The agenda Judge Wednesday, the twelfth of March,
and Donald Trump is hit back at the Canadians, saying
he will double tariffs on Canadian steel and the iminium
from twenty five percent now up to fifty percent. Trump
says the tariffs will begin on Wednesday, and it's in
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retaliation for a twenty five percent of tariffs that Ontario
placed on electricity, the electricity it sends to northern US States.
So here is Ontario's Premier, Doug Ford.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Let me be clear. I will not hesitate to increase
this charge if necessary if the United States escalates, I
will not hesitate to shut the electricity off completely. Believe
me when I say I do not want to do this.
I feel terrible for the American people because it's not
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the American people who started this trade war. It's one
person who's responsible. That's President Trump.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Doug Ford in Make County. They're up for a finaln't
they a right to America? And US Secretary of State
Marco Rubio has been meeting with Ukrainian officials. This is
happening in Saudi Arabia, talks on ending the Russian Ukraine War.
Atop Zelenski aids, here's the talks have been very constructive
so far.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
The Americans want to assess whether or not they think
the Ukrainians in their view, are serious. But of course,
from the Ukrainian perspective, they've always seen that they're serious
about wanting the war to stop. They want to do
it with a mechanism in place to guarantee and police
a cease fire, i e. You know, a promise of
UAX security systems if push came to shop. So that's
the first kind of you know, fundamental roadblock that still
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exists between these two sides.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Meanwhile, of course people are fighting and people are dying.
In fact, three people have been killed in an overnight
drone attack in Russia. This was on the Moscow region,
and Russia says it's the largest such attack of the war.
And the former President of the Philippines, Rodrigo de Tete,
has been arrested at Mina's International Airport on order of
the inter National Criminal Court in connection with the case
(03:02):
of crime against humanity which has been filed against him.
He's seventy nine years old these days. He was arrested
after arriving from Hong Kong. Police took him into custody
on the orders of the ICC. They've been investigating the
massive killings that happened under the former president's crackdown against
illegal drugs. This is President Fernando Marcus, officers said in
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this statement. A Meanwhile, Rodrigo de Tete questions his arrest.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
But this is a good crime that I comite me
now the legal paces for my being here, I say,
apparently I was brought here, not of.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
My own mollie coat.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
There we go, names and stories from the past. It
is ten out of five.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
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Yes, Oh, they are messing with rugby again and this
time it's junior rugby as the kids rugby that they're
falling with biggest shake up in decades. Under a new proposal,
kids won't play fifteen a side footy until they reach
high school. It will be ten a side up to
year seven thirteen a side. There's at number thirteen a
side and year eight and the changes are aimed at
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improving enjoyment and confidence levels, and children and their final
year at intermediate school. This is year eight will play
thirteen a side rugby on a slightly narrower field by
about ten meters five meters each side. It's proposed that
there will be five forwards and eight backs. There will
be no flankers. There will be no flankers, and intermediate
rugby Year seven children will play tennis side rugby on
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a half sized adult field. New Zealand Rugby is also
stressing the requirement for coaches and parents not to pigeonhole
players into positions too early, which I can see appointed
that change designed to focus children's progression towards tackling properly.
Players will be taught to place the ball when tackled,
with the half back directed to immediately pass the ball.
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And that was the final straw for many people in
the rugby community, because, as one said, oh are we
just rugby league now. However, there are supporters of the changes.
They say the over competitive nature of boys rugby leading
into secondary school age and beyond was precisely why the
changes would need. But I'd say to them that the
competitiveness of our secondary rugby is exactly why our rugby
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is todayed so competitive internationally in the men's game. Look,
this is going to cause a lot of talkback and
a lot of talk and I can see where the
Union are coming from. It could make for a faster
fits a game and it could mean that finally all
players learned to tackle correctly. But you know, participation numbers
in rugby are remaining high, and so you have to ask,
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if it ain't broke, why go out and fix it?
Andrew Dickens, Mike Mike Heester from the NCIA is going
to be talking to Mike Hosking later on in the
show about ten to eight this morning. Hey, whatever the
government says about the economy being our number one concern,
that's not the way that voters, voters are thinking. A
poll published by Horizon Research found that the health system
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is our most important worry. It's ranked above all else
including the economy and the cost of living. And as
a worrying thing for Chris Luxon as well, is that
it is the number one priority amongst national act at
New Zealand First voters, health has always been our main
concern and it's still our main concern, and it's particularly
the main concern of older voters. So yesterday Simon Brown
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called ty Hoe on the culling of Health New Zealand's
IT sector. Two thousand workers could have lost their job.
This is a good thing because I think it realizes
how critical it is in the provision of health services,
and it shows that the public service cuts have not
been as forensic as we thought they might be. And
I've long had the suspicion that public service bosses were
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told to cut their costs by a percentage and then
they just went out and chose the low lying fruit,
and that didn't make a lot of sense to me.
So public service costs are essential, despite some seeming to
be expensive. And the new Health Minister, in calling Tyhoe
on the cut to the staff, seems to recognize this,
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and I think he's doing a good job of it,
and he's using logic and analysis instead of knee jerk reactions.
Well done, Simeon. It's five fourteen, So to the schools
we go. The food's been getting it and now our
company's gone bust. Now what does this mean for the program?
And we'll talk to a principle in a few moments time,
someone who's tasted the food. And that's a good thing.
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This is news talk here b it is five fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
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Speaker 2 (08:00):
Roy likes the changes to rugby. He says rugby's been
doing some thinking that kids like to keep the ball alive,
so that is he reconsists a good idea. What do
you think you can text me on ninety ninety two,
but you know, not playing on the full game until
secondary school. That seems a little late, don't you think anyway?
Overheated late bland, beige, melted plastic covered food. We've heard
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all the headlines about the school lunch program and now
we hear the major school lunch provider, La Belle, has
been placed into liquidation. The Belle has contracted to deliver
one hundred and twenty five thousand meals a day. This
responsibility will now fall on Compass, who are the only
other school lunch provider. They're also helping out the bell
with their liquidation and their workers. It's a good on
your Compass. A Catol Intermediate Principal Phil Palfrey was on
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the working committee to set up the lunch program and
he joins me.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Now, good morning to you film, good morning, how are you?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'm good. How worried should we be about this liquidation?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Well, I don't know. For me, it's it just seems
to be a one aspect that just shows how bad
the whole thing was. It just shows that well. In fact,
we interviewed LaBelle about when the program first began, when
this into a journal, government bought it in, and we
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just felt that they went up to the scratch up
to scratch them and and we appointed at that time
we were allowed to appoint our own provider, and we
appointed a local person who ended up doing it for
us for the for all the time until last year
when they were cut and they did a fantastic job,
and when you heard from LeBell again until this whole
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new arrangement began, and you know, we didn't really know
them that well, it just didn't work.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It hasn't worked, and I didn't going forward with what
we have, it seems to me that you think the
Bell was the company causing problem. So the question and
we now have we're talking about lunches next week, is
can Compass meet the demand on its own?
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I have no idea. I have no idea. I don't
really have great faith in it, and I just, well,
my only worship that would just go back to what
it was before. It apparently is a saving at one
hundred million dollars, but I don't know if that's We
don't know if that's going to work out to be
that saving in the first place. But I do know
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that three dollars a meal is just ridiculous and it
hasn't worked, and I just would love to go back
to the old system, and I think our country should
afford it and could afford it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
You were on the working committee that set up the
lunch program in the first place, So are you just
resistant to change?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Oh no, I'm not. I'm an older principle, but I'm
not resistant to change. I was assured that the program
would be very similar to what we have now, so
I was prepared to see how panned out. But right
from the very start, I saw the quality of the food,
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and I saw the reaction from my students and my kids.
We're a load sol low equity school, a high equity school,
and we our kids need the food, There's no doubt
about that, but they just I just it haven't worked.
The too of them don't like it actually, and yeah,
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that's just a good program.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Phil, thank you so much for getting up early to
it for us. Phil is the Cotal Intermediate Principle up
North and was on the program that set up the
lunches in the first place back in the day. It
is five twenty. It's News Talks B.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
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Speaker 2 (11:54):
It's FY twenty two.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Look.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
The government is bringing in new procurement rules for tenders
for government works and they're simplifying the bidding process and
they're reducing the regulatory framework. This is about fifty billion
dollars worth of work. They're making it easier and they're
getting rid of some of the rules. Some of the
rules they're getting rid of. If you're going to build
a government building, you don't necessarily have to go to
five star rating, if it's non residential, you don't have
to have electric or hybrid electric vehicles, you don't have
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to have office supplies that are recyclable, and you do
not need to pay the living wage and contracts. It's
going to be replaced by a new economic benefit rule.
It's fifty billion dollars worth of work. We'll talk about
this just before six o'clock today. So we have changes
to Quantus's loyalty scheme. It's taking off today. They're raiding
the competition as part of it. I mean it's a
good deal for Quantus people, but also they're raiding the
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competition with frequent flyers of other airlines at gold status
or hire able to get Quantus Gold by earning just
one hundred credits just buy a ticket and where you go,
rather than the usual seven hundred air New Zealand also
updated its airpoints system last year. So I'm joined by
aviation commentator Irene King. Hello, Irene, good morning. Is this
a big deal?
Speaker 8 (13:02):
I think it's hugely technical and you know we're starting
to see more and more sales in the market and
this is just a different form of a sale.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, will this attract any New Zealand's frequent flyer? Did
suddenly switch allegiance to quantas Oh?
Speaker 8 (13:18):
I think people now are pretty smart. They have allegiances
all over the place and you know you just go
for the best stale.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Is there a New Zealand competitive we see Quantus making
these changes. Their New Zealan made some changes last year.
Are we keeping up?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Look? I think there's two things. This Quantus announcement is
hugely technical. It's about Keshlo and getting law engagement from
high spending, high ball customers. A New Zealands is more about,
you know, brand refresh. It's not as technical. It's about
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setting a simple, smart response of for and that's what
in New Zealand does well. You know, it does things
generally very simply, very smart and can respond very quickly.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
For those people who do like the Quantus and are
frequent flyers and going through the teas, this new scheme
offers frequent fires. It has to step through those tears
faster and so you can then access better service or
you can use your points to buy flights. So what
do travelers prefer? Better lounges or bonus flights?
Speaker 9 (14:28):
Bonus flights?
Speaker 8 (14:29):
You know, I think the lounges are all pretty much
of a muchness now, but you get this and centers
around bonus slights or you know, the ability to secure
your status for a longer period of time. You know,
those are the things that customers really respond to.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Irene I thank you once again for waking up for
us Irene and King the aviation commentator. So check out
your point scheme, particularly for your quantus, so you can
really double your points very very quickly. Indeed, now it
is five twenty five us.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
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News Talks hit B. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge.
It's five twenty seven. These days, we're always looking for
any little clue that the old normal is coming back.
It was the fifth anniversary of the pandemic yesterday. I
don't think the new normal is coming back. So let's
look at houses. ASB lowered its house price inflation forecast
for this year, it's chief economist Nick Toughly, reckons the
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pickup in sales has been sluggish. He says there's a
lot of stock on the market. They believe prices will
fall to the first half of this year. Therefore, the
bank has more than halved its house price growth forecast
for twenty twenty five from just or to just three
point four percent when it used to be nine three
point four percent. That's the capital growth you can expect.
(15:52):
That's more in line with inflation than for a long time.
In other words, buying a house at the moment is
no longer the path to automatic capital gain. Question is
how long will it last? Anyway, faced with the fact
that it's just three point four percent of house inflation,
house owners are more likely to stay put. And you remember,
back in the old normal, churn was the name of
the game. You'd often buy and sell a lot to
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climb up through the property ladder. I went through five
houses in five years to get to a better place.
In today's climate, you're more likely to stay in any
house you own because a bird in the hand is
with two in the bush, and you want some stability,
because stability and security is now the new normal. So
this is why we've got more stock. And this, you
have to say, is more in line with overseas models
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where people stay in their houses for longer, accepting the
limitations of the market and building a day to day
life that they can count on. Now in New Zealand,
we've been through boom and bust periods before and prices
have always come back. It's sort of like, oh that
they always come back. It'll come back, mate, But what
if they don't is that such a bad thing. People
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have often said that our property fixation has been at
the expense of real productivity growth. Anyway, what will happen
next is anyone's guest. But I'll tell you something else.
The bank pointed out something that I got worried about.
Immigration levels are staying stubbornly low after booming right after
the pandemic. We are not an attractive destination. And maybe
that's because of the image we're presented of ourselves as
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a basket place economy. So look, anyway, maybe the housing
crisis is over, maybe we're going to have a stable economy.
But I'll tell you one thing. It's not a get
rich quick paradise anymore right now, but it is a
nice place to live. Andrew Dickens all right, okay, it's
Girl Scout Day today. By the way, congratulations and all
the girl scouts. We're back in a moment with Gavin
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Gray from the UK. This is News Talks, Set bat.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
News and Views you trust to start your day. It's
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Can you talks it be? We believe all this.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
Arkins.
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Anything you honor to the Morning Player in my life.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
There's good warning to you. Welcome back to the program.
I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge, and that's old Harry Styles,
who's negotiations to do a thirty five day run at
the Sphere in Las Vegas like you two did. There
we go. Yes, I mentioned as a Girl Scout Day.
It is Girl Scout Day. The very first Girl Scout group,
originally the Girl Guides, was on this day in nineteen
twelve in Savannah and Georgia. And there Juliet who was
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the head the Akla, gathered together a troop of eighteen
girls and taught them how to milk a cow, tie
up a burglar, and how to boil water. What a
great day that was. Now, look there's a bit of well, look,
I'll tell you something. The President of America, the man
whose name I'm trying not to mention for one morning
might start with tea. The President of America is refusing
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to rule out a recession for the United States this year.
He's been asked all the time. He said, there's going
to be some pain, but that's because there's going to
be again to everyone saying we will there be a
recession this year. The markets are all over the place,
so we're going to check the stock turmoil all over
Europe with Gavin Gray in a few moments. Time is
now twenty two to two six trying to go around
New Zealand. Callum Productor joins me from Otago. Hello, Gallum,
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you good morning. Life's getting better for people living in Queenstown.
Well it is.
Speaker 10 (19:24):
According to this Quality of Life survey, the annual survey
that council has put out. The district Council there has
issued THEIRS and it shows a seventy six percent rise
and people rating or seventy six percent of people at
least rating their quality of life as good or better
despite all of the cost of living pressures. So that
is a rise of four percent increase on the year prior.
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The biggest negatives though housing, access to medical professionals and
public transport.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The mayor there is Glenn Lewis.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
He says it's pleasing to see the quality of life
overall remains high as there are challenging times with affordability
issues and rapid growth.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And how's did Eden's weather.
Speaker 10 (20:03):
Rainy this morning that it's meant to clear this afternoon
shows this evening strong southerly. H I have only fourteen.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Very good stuff, Claire Shore, It joins us fro Chrastia Telly.
Speaker 11 (20:10):
Claire, good morning.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So the Scott Watson saga continues.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
I know this has just gone on and on and on,
hasn't it? Andrew he is making another bid for freedom today.
Of course. Scott Watson was jailed for life for a
minimum seventeen years non parole for the nineteen ninety eight
murders of Olivia Hope and Ben Smart, The seventeen and
twenty one year olds, disappeared after boarding a yacht early
on New Year's Day in the Marlboro Sounds Endeavor Inlet.
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Their bodies have never been found. This morning, Scott Watson,
who's always denied ever meeting the pair, we'll have another
shot at freedom with a parole board hearing now. His
previous parole hearing, which was in November, was adjourned because
of what was described at the time as a confusing
array of psychologist risk reports. The writers of those reports
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will be appearing before the board today.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
How's such weather?
Speaker 11 (21:01):
A bit miserable today, rain easing to showers, strong southwesterlies
developing a high of sixteen.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Welcome the rain, Claire, because it's been pretty dry. The
rain is good for farmers. Adam Cooper joins me from Wellington. Hello, Adam, hey, Andrew.
We used to Aukham Council in the Beehive having a battle,
but now it's Wellington Council in the beehive.
Speaker 12 (21:18):
Yeah, that's right. It's between the Prime Minister, other ministers
and the mayor. Tory Faro here. It emerged yesterday that
the collection of councils from the Wellington region aren't applying
for a regional infrastructure deal with the government. That's because
they weren't ready by the deadline. So PM Chris Luxon
and Labor leader Chris Hipkins both criticized the area's mayors
for fightling to agree on some joint projects to apply for.
(21:40):
Luxon says it didn't make sense to him. He called
the decision lame. Tory Farno's hit back, saying his comments
a pretty poor form from the country's leader. She says
the Department of Internal Affairs told her counsel's Crown Observer
that Wellington wouldn't meet the criteria anyway as its primary
focus right now is water reform, and Tory Fano now
says she wants the minister to walk back those comments. Lovely, Okay.
(22:02):
How's Wellington's weather cloudy today? A few showers from the
afternoon and eighteen's the high.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Neva let Timan who joins me from Auklandhaller and Neva greetings.
So there are innovation hubs. It's one of the CBD,
but now the council wants who expand them?
Speaker 13 (22:15):
Correct, Now what that is. It's called grid AKL and
it's across two locations in the Wyndham Quarter, housing about
one hundred and forty businesses. So this is the Tartuki
Auckland Unlimited Commission to report and it found that last
year it contributed four hundred and twenty four million dollars
into the local economy. Pam Ford, she's the Economic development director,
she says lot recently, that's right, they're opening up similar hubs.
(22:38):
This is in Monaco, Glenn and a Seavondale offering the
same opportunities. So what they do provide is working space,
access to business advisors, investors and an entrepreneur network.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Good well, actually I went to the opening of that building.
That building is fabulous and it connects and it connects
South Auckland entrepreneurs with central city entrepreneurs and they're all
doing their offices and they're all networking.
Speaker 13 (22:59):
It's wherever are were you wait too, Gosh, get around, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'm an interested man.
Speaker 13 (23:06):
How's Walkin's weather showers but it's only a sprinkling around
midday then clearing. This afternoon twenty three is a high
here in Auckland. No, you know, like huge deluges that
we need, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
It is now eighteen minutes to six. Gavin Gray out
of the UK. Those boats that had their terrible collision,
they're still burning and there's now someone who's been confirmed dead.
We're going to talk about the markets as well, and
these new procurement rules. It involves fifty billion dollars worth
of government tenders. And when you go and tender for
government work. In the old days there were over seventy
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rules and one of them was you have to buy evs,
whether you like it or not. One of them was
you have to pay the living wage, whether you like
it or not. One of them was, oh you're building
an office building, it has to be five star, whether
it's necessary or not. These are gone. Is this going
to make a good difference. We'll talk about this just
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It's fourteen six to the UK. We go and Kevin
greg good morney to you either Andrew. So we've got
the collision between the oil tanker and the cargo vessel
and they're still on fire.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yes, I'm afraid. So one of the vessels still on fire.
The other has now been put out. But the latest
is a fifty nine year old man has now been
arrested and that is in connection on suspicion of gross
negligence manslaughter. And that is because one person is missing,
presumed dead, and also of course because one of the
ships was actually stationary, was moored up at the time
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and appears to have been just struck by another one.
And this happened in daylight hours. The conditions had were
really pretty good. It was daylight, as I said, the
fog that was overnight and early morning had predominantly cleared.
And people just can't understand how this accident could have happened.
Both ships absolutely massive. On a more positive note, there
was talk about a cyanide compound on board one of
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the ships. The owner of that ship has in the
last few hours said no, no, no, the containers had
stored that, but at the time of this accident and fire,
there was none of that compound on board.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Okay, Now we've got the President of America refusing to
rule out the fact that there may be a recession
for the US this year. We've had the US stocks
go down overnight, and we've had turmoil in Europe so
far this week.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Yeah, we have, and that looked to have been halted
earlier our time this morning, a few hours ago when
I logged on, actually the CAC that's the French indusicy
had climb point two of a percent, Germany's dacks had
risen point four percent, and the foot seat was by
and large pretty flat. Here in the UK, I've just
looked again and the last couple of hours have been
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pretty rough. The foot seat now down one point two percent,
the CACK down almost one and a half and the
dacks down one and a third percent. So significant disruption,
still significant uncertainty in the markets as Donald Trump's very
very flip flop on ideas and tariffs and embargoes all
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the time seems to cause a great deal of uncertainty,
and that is one thing, Andrew, as you know that
the markets absolutely can't stand.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yes and they can't predict what's going to happen next,
and they like to do that. And I thank you
so much. Gavin Gray from the UK. It is now
twelve to six. Andrew Dickens, all right, this sounds like
a dry old story, but it's not. The Government's proposing
changes to procurement rules. This is to make it easier
for New Zealand businesses to win government contracts. Currently, there
are seventy one rules that agencies have to follow when
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tendering contracts and the government wants to reduce it to
forty seven. The Economic Growth of Minister Nichola Willis, who
is on with Mike later tonight. Later this morning, she
says the contracts are collectively worth more than fifty billion
dollars a year. We've got the Wellington Chamber of Commons
CEO Simon Arkis will be this morning. Good on it
to assignment.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
Good morning here you are you?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh, I'm fine. This is a good idea where those
rules ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Well, it's really good for New Zealand business. And part
of the reason for that is because we now recognize
the extra contribution that New Zealand businesses make. For example,
they employ people that pay tax versus another you know,
international entity which might not.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
This is true, and this is why the cutting of
government spending on all sorts of contracts around them place
has actually had a ripple effect that's gone through our
entire economy because these people pay tax in New Zealand.
So there we go. How big of a difference in
cutting wed take will this make?
Speaker 9 (28:37):
Look it's a big change, and I think it's also
what we're really getting from that is the theme. This
is what we want to see. You want to see
it easier to do these sorts of things, and I
don't think it overly advantages of New Zealand business in
any way. So it's actually very sensible move.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
A good idea, I hope, well for things like you know,
the the living waves cutting that and the evs and
all that sort of thing. What they've done is introduce
what's called an economic benefit test to the regime, so
everything has to be looked at to see whether the
bid is economically beneficial to New Zealand. Should this have
been happening with government processes and procurement from the get.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
Go, well, I think it should and I think in
some ways perhaps it was read in their times when
decisions were made. But it's really good to see it explicit.
And I agree with Andrew from a get go we
should have had these kind of rules.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Okay, are the New Zealand businesses who want contract? Is
there a demand for it?
Speaker 9 (29:32):
Very much so. And I'll tell you what. The other
thing that's quite exciting about it is that you end
up being able to perhaps a ward a contract to
a business that can scale up, so they say, you know,
we can do this. We just go have to get
a few few extra people and we'll make it work.
And that's great if there are opportunities like that created
along the way, but.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It could advantage New Zealand business right at the time
when we're trying to attract international investment. We've got a
conference coming up this week for instance. You know, if
we're advantaging New Zealand businesses, are we actually turning our
back on international opportunities?
Speaker 9 (30:05):
I don't think so, because you'll find these sorts of
rules that quite explicit in lots of jurisdiction. They're not
They're not unusual at all. And when you think about
you know the way that some businesses employee, you know,
almost whole communities, and they are involved in philanthropic work
and other things you do, you do need to, I think,
recognize the extra value giving here and why not why
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not give New Zealanders using business a little bit of
a you know, consideration, very good stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Simon Arkass and I thank you for your time today.
And Simon is the Wellington Chamber of Commerce a CEO.
And it is coming up what eight minutes to six, Andrew,
it's your job to report the news. By not saying
President Trump's name this morning, it's pathetic. He's not a criminal.
Grow up man.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
AJ. The reason I don't say Trump's name right now
is how I don't know if you've noticed this. Everybody
says Trump's name all the time. It's not whether I
like dislike the man. In fact, I don't mind the
man at all, but the name he just he has
dominated the news cycle and occasionally people go, oh, here
we go again talking about America again. I've tried to
talk about New Zealand all morning long, and I'm happy
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about that. It's coming up seven minutes to six. It's
news talk to he be.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Andrew Dickens on Afili edition with one roof Make your
Property Search Simple, Youth Talk Zibby.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Briefly, if you're a fan of Spinal Tap, you love this.
You may remember the mockumentary about the Hapless heavy metal group,
very very very funny, and it featured a six neck guitar,
six necks like Jimmy Page's two neck guitar which he
used on Sea Way to Heaven. So this was the joke.
This one has six necks. It's up for sale. It's
called the Beast. It'll be about two to three thousand quid.
The designer of it says it is the guitar that
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should never have been made. You need this stuff. Mike Hoskin, good.
Speaker 14 (31:49):
Morning to you, very good morning. Let me ask you
this question. If the company that's in liquidation doesn't affect
the flow of school lunches.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yes, is it a story?
Speaker 6 (32:02):
No?
Speaker 9 (32:02):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Because Compass has said that they're going to cover the
bells workers and that they're going to cover the lunches, and.
Speaker 14 (32:08):
So why we exercised about it if it's not a pylon.
So you feel sorry for the company obviously, and the
people lose their job.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
That's badened.
Speaker 14 (32:14):
But but there are companies going under every day in
this country and we don't cover them. Why do we
cover this one? Because we've got a pile on going
with school lunches. So the school lunches still turn up.
And then before did you see the news last night?
You see TV one last night? No, they've reached a
new low. So they had their regional reporter filming the
lunches that were being loaded into the big bucket to
be fed to the pigs. Right, this was spag bowl.
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You cannot you cannot make spag bowl inedible. It's impossible
to make spag bowl inedible. So at the same time
they're going the kids come to school hungry. Are they
really so hungry that they're unloading their lunch into a
bucket and took over the pigs because they can't allegedly
eat spag bowl?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I come on, the peg is what makes it symbolic?
Just throwing it into a rubbish bin. Might have chosen
a peg, they found a peg, They've driven to the peg,
They've got to the peg. They do this and they're
something there to film it.
Speaker 14 (33:07):
And do you think that they found out about the
school because the school rang them up and said, hey,
we put it in a big bucket every day, come
and film. That's I mean, it's there's something not right
about this and it's a massive pile on and and
I mean, yes, the delivery is an issue and all
of that. I get all of that, and they've got
a liver it. But yesterday's number is ninety nine point
whatever percent it was. So that problem's now solved. So
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if that problem solved, all you're left with is a
bunch of whiners for this to not be an issue.
You've talked it awful lot about it, No, but the case.
But the whole thing is, I mean, when do we
draw the line on this? So the whole world is
genuflecting at the moment on its access because it's going
and yet we little old New Zealand steering at our
navel talking about you know, it's it's pathetic. Anyway, bavids
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Emos on the program and we'll talk about procurement.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
We'll talk about the new procure I'm quite interested. That's
a good idea.
Speaker 14 (33:56):
It's patriotism versus the bottom line, and so that that
interests me because I thought we're into the bottom line,
but now we're into patriotism.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
So and the rugby rules, oh that as well? Make
here all right? I'm Andrew Neck execute to producer Kinsey.
Speaker 12 (34:10):
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and fell in love with you.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
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