May 11, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Monday the 12th of May 2025, The Government's promising to clamp down on boy racers, Police Association President Chris Cahill tells Ryan Bridge whether or not the legislation will work.
Erica Stanford will lead work on reducing social media harm for under-16s, social media parenting expert from B416, Malindi Maclean shares her thoughts.
Andrew Alderson has the latest from weekend sport.
Plus UK/Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey shares the latest on Putin offering face-to-face talks with Ukraine.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
early edition with one roof make your Property search Simple,
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be good morning, Welcome to you Monday. It is
the twelfth of May. Six minutes after five. Great to
have your company coming up on the program. Police Association
on the Boy Races. If Judith Collins only crushed three cars,
how many will Mitchell the Destroyer get? Do we think?
We'll ask just before six this morning, Gavin Graham the
UK the King is costing the taxpayer three times as
(00:34):
much as the Queen did. We'll ask why under sixteen's
in the social media band we look at that shortly
and Andrew Alderson would sport the Warriors and their second
half will be a point of discussion.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Monday, the twelfth of May, patients called for direct talks
with Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
James, do we want serious talks with Ukraine?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Goal of such talks is to eliminate the root causes
of the conflict, hunt to reach and enduring and long
lasting peace for the historical long term.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Do you mean that though? Putin? Do you? It comes
after European leaders meet in Kiev, of course, at the
weekend demanding a thirty day cease fire since.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Monday, twelfth of May.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
A full and unconditional ceasefire must start or at least
thirty days we together demanded from Russia.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So there's calling a bluff and then there's double calling
a bluff. And Trump's just tweeted about all of this.
We'll get to that in a second. Ceasefire is elusive.
This morning, more claims of violations with India and Pakistan.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
They have been repeated violations of the understanding arrived at
earlier this evening, and we take very very serious notice
of these violations.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And we have heard the first Sunday mess from the
Pope card By What is happening to me? May imedately
come into a fact? Well? Yes, that would be nice,
wouldn't it. Let's hope I suppose we can all pray.
Eight minutes Half the Five News Talks MB.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Whose and Views you trust. To start your day. It's
Billy Edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof. Make Your
Property Surge Simple?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Can you talk ZMB Big week? This week? Quick look
your heads around the world. We'll start with the Diddy
trial that's happening this week. Everyone's going to be talking
about the Diddy video. So his defense team, which sounds like,
you know, crackpot defense team, absolute business, but they're desperate
to keep this video out of the trial. They haven't
been successful in doing that. It shows him assaulting his
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ex girlfriend and then dragging her in a hotel room.
This was a video taken back in twenty sixteen. Anyway,
defense said no, not relevant to a sex trafficking trial,
and the judge said, yes it is. So that is
kicking off this week Thursday. Could Thursday be the day
that we get a face to face between Russia and
Ukraine direct talks in Turkey about ending the war? Probably not?
(03:02):
Probably not. And here's why, I mean, this looks much
more like bluster from Putin because Europe gave him. They
all stood up there in Kiev at the weekend, gave
him an ultimatum. And he doesn't like ultimatums, Posin, does he.
So Starmer was there, the whole crew was there, the
whole gang in Kiev at the week and they said, basically,
call a cease fire by Monday or guess what more sanctions.
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Putin gets his back up, of course, and says, okay, okay,
let's talk face to face on Thursday, and no mention
of a ceasefire, and now Zelenski says no meeting without
a seat. I mean, you can see where this is going.
You can see what's happening here. He's basically bought himself
at least another few weeks before he gets hit with
more sanctions. Anyway, in the meantime, I guess try and
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divide and conquer the unity of Europe. Also this week,
so that may happen on Thursday, but probably won't happen
on Thursday. Also this week, we've got inflation data out
of the US. We'll all be watching that closely. Trump
is off to the Middle East a week whistle stop
with the golf States. Pope's inauguration day is coming up.
We've got elections in Romania where the Trump candidate is
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on track to win. Elections in Poland, we've got elections
in Portugal. And here, of course, the government now firmly
on its work agenda. Is this idea of an under
sixteenth insta banned. The social media thing problem is if
you ban this for kids, and this is where we
should all really start paying attention. If you ban it
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for kids, won't we all have to prove our age?
How else do you make it work? I mean, you
can't just have a box that says yes I'm eighteen
or yes I'm sixteen or whatever and believe that that's
going to have any effect. This is the problem Australia
is having. So do you have to Will we all
have to take a photo of ourselves with our passports
or our driver's licenses send that to Facebook or TikTok
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in China? Do you trust them? Are you going to
have biometric the art are taken so you can log
into your Facebook account so that under sixteen year olds can't. No,
I didn't think you were either. Anyway, we'll look at
this problem for a potential law change.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
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Speaker 2 (05:21):
News Talk said B five thirteen on news Talk said
B We've got New Zealand cricket players fleeing. This is
an India and Pakistan. Obviously, the problems that they've been
having over the weekend, reports that they were going to
be fleeing and getting the howl out of dodge. Basically,
now that there has been a ceasefire, does any of
that change. There are some violations happening, though they are
smaller than what was happening a couple of days ago.
(05:43):
Andrew Aldison will be with us to talk about all
of this in about five to seven minutes Time.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
News Talk, said b Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Now, the member's bill has become a government bill. This
is the Business on Kids and Social Media. Catherine Weed's
instaban bill stays in the but Luckson says that parents
love this idea. So Erica Stanford has picked up the
government work on the under sixteen social media restrictions. They're
calling them not a ban, but potential restrictions. Now, Melinda
(06:13):
McLain is a social media parenting expert from the new
group Before sixteen. Who's with me this morning, Melinda, Good morning,
Karida Ryan, Good to have you on the show. First
of all, this group that's been set up, is this
all a coincidence that it's been set up at this
at the time that the government's doing all this stuff.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
No, not a coincidence. I think two things at play.
One is that Before sixteen has actually been working on
this issue in the background for months, nearly a year,
and has been raising the issue across all members of
parliament in all parties. But there's also a point that
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we're hitting as a society, I think where we've got
this sort of tidal wave of awareness around some of
the harm and the issues, so you know, we are
really coming to I think a societal turning point which
the government is aware of as well as as well
as parents who are who are actually sort of waking
up to the issues.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Is the problems. The age verification thing is a big problem, right,
This is what the Australians are having problems with. How
do you verify a child's age without us all having
to send in a photo of our passports?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Right?
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I think this is a really big misconception that thing
that this can't be done. So there's a couple of
things I'd say. So the first is that age verification
currently exists within big tech platforms, so they are using
their own age verification systems with a lot of accuracy already.
They just have never had an incentive to deploy this
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as something that they need to do to have a
minimum age because there's no legislation to enforce it. And
the other thing I'd say is that there's an entire
age verification industry outside of the tech that are working
on this as well, and it hasn't so much been
a problem in Australia, said Australia is going through a
process of prototyping different options and being pitched to by
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a bunch of different organizations and working out what the
best solution is. So, how do you not that they
can't do it?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Can you explain how they do do it then?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Without Yeah, so there's a couple of different ways, and
what we think would be the best way would be
a combination of what's called facial recognition, biometric scanning and
then using an ID token to match those two things.
And these can be done with over ninety nine percent accuracy.
That's what all the trials are saying.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So you have so you have to give your biometric
data to Facebook.
Speaker 7 (08:35):
No, in simple terms, you're not handing over your data.
This is done externally by a third party and you
don't hand over your data. So it just will basically
verify an ID token. That doesn't mean you're handing over
your data.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So who can do they? How do they verify it? Then?
I mean they must have to know that it's yours.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, there will have to be a linking to this
in the same way that we do this with things
like real me accounts for bank accounts. It's just the
issue with verification with something like real me is that
that's not working on actually determining the difference between a
fifteen and a sixteen year old. So that's the key,
the key.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
What about because there are problems that, well, it could
create problems for other people. Isn't this about parents knowing
what their kids are doing? If you don't want your
kid on social media, don't buy them a smartphone.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
I think that is something that would commonly be said
by people who are not a parent of a thirteen
or fourteen year old.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That is me to be transparent, that is me.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
There we go this. You parents are not equipped to
face up to what is happening with big tech. It
is moving too fast. And we're not even talking about
the issues of deep fakes of AI companions. You know,
we are simply talking about the algorithmic feeding of content at.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
The moment, but the actually owning the phone in the
first place. Explain to me why that is so so
hard that a parent can't say to the kid n
I mean, my mom said know to me about so
many things. Growing up, I wasn't allowed a cell phone.
I mean, yeah, what's so hard about saying no till
you're sixteenth?
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Yeah, I think the other thing that legislation will do,
because it's a really it's a really good point, why
not just say no? But but actually parents are no
match for this. And if you're out on a limb
with your kid, which at the moment, because the societal
norms are so far the other way, those need to
shift dramatically.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So so parents and parents actually just need a harden
up and tough enough.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
This is not a parenting issue, Ryan, This is and
it is it is unfair to put this on to parents.
They cannot, they cannot be a match for these big
tech companies. And we while while we do need.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But you can if you don't a phone, Okay, I mean,
I mean it's simple. They big tech can't get you
without a smartphone.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
They can get you, and they can get you through
iPads and family computers and lat And what we're talking
about is a really comprehensive overhaul of our online safety
reforms for kids in New Zealand. We are shockingly behind,
and so parents will have a role in this. But
actually we need change at a system level and we
need the government as a first step to set in
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place some legislation. And Eric Stanford is an excellent person
to be leading YAOD.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
She's the best person you could have on the job.
I reckon, Melinda Hey, interesting stuff where you look forward
to having more debates like this and I'm sure in
the days and weeks and months ahead. Melnda McLain with
a social media parenting expert from the group. Before sixteen
it's five to twenty news talks, said be Andrew Orlison.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Next the first word on the News of the Day
early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Room to make
your Property Surge and symbol news talks the five.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Twenty two Police Association. Just before six Andrew Orison here
was support Andrew. Good morning Greeting's Ryan. Now the great
weekend to sport and the worries. I mean, they won,
but the second half wasn't that great.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Edit's scrappy for the Warriors. But that's the thing you've
got to hold on and that's what they've done. And
now in clear second on the table, sixteen points two
behind the Bulldogs and still clear the likes of the
storm etc. See the storm, trouncing Benji Marshall's Tigers sixty
four and il So eleven unanswered tries, their Marshall answering
(12:20):
some questions about their die performance. But for the Warriors,
I mean, and Luke mccuffin that what was a bit
ten minutes to go?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
With the drop goal field goal and you be able
to secure one point win.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I'll take it. They will take that. I liked what
Andrew Webster said at the weekend about learning while we're winning. Yeah,
we've got to, you know, because yes, they're having some success,
but they're quite a young squad, aren't they. You need
to grow them kind of at the same time.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, I mean, there's always a lot to like about
what Andrew Webster says. I think he's just a bit
of a sage, isn't he. I think, and rising through
the coaching ranks, and the Warrior is lucky to have him,
and yeah, so's let's put them in good stead.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Now, what's happening with our cricket is that this is
Indian Pakistan, which sort of the weekend that some of
them are going to flee and then we've had a
six fire. But there's violations what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yes, so watching brief at the moments are still uncertainty
around that treat Bolt, Russian Revender and Devin Comay apparently
heading home Mitchell Center, and Bevin Jacobs still left there.
There's been a few air strikes, also an indication the
Tilament will resume later this week, so it's all up
in the air or not, as the case may be.
For the Indian Premier League. Also the consideration of the
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Pakistan Super League, which due to run until May eighteenth,
so another week or so or just about six days
to go on that. That's been postponed indefinitely. So there's
still about I think eight or nine New Zealanders involved,
their likes that came with him, so I think in
a non playing capacity. But yeah, I'm still some concern
there for those those players in the Pakistan Super League
as well.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, keep an eye on that. And Ryan Fox,
how's he doing.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
He's even par through two holes today, so still I
think four strokes off the lead there, Ryan Fox. I
guess the key to this tournament. There's two PGA tournaments
going on simultaneously in the United States, and the winners
of each of them will get a place at the
PGA Championship next week. So Fox has to do that
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if he wants to qualify for that major. And yes,
he's still well on the hunts so so far, so
I've got to We had.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That incredibly mercurial.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Round yesterday with nine birdies and six bogies across in
just the three pars from his round, but was able
to stay in touch. The other one to watch, of
course of the your co as well, she or Dame
didier Co. She is in the thirteenth at the moment,
so just sort a few strokes back I think off
the lead then in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Lots to watch. Andrew appreciate it, goode across. We're right,
thank you very much, Andrew Alison the sport for us
this morning twenty five minutes after five. I'll give you
my thoughts on not just the social media stuff, but
the car crushing, the fleeing drivers, all of that stuff too.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
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IV twenty seven after five NEWSTALKSB. So we're cracking down
on the kids. We're going to crush the cars, We're
going to crush the smartphones, which all sounds nice and lovely,
but it'll come down to enforcement. For all the time
Judith Colins spent in the scrap metal yards for photo ops,
it's not quite the crusher that those photo ops made
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her out to be. She wasn't. And the five years
after they passed the law, guess how many cars they crushed? Three?
But that was a three strike solution. Mark Mitchell, the
destroyer is moving us to a first strike program. So
you're gone in sixty second street race. You've just won
away of those from the destruction of your car or
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potentially your car ending up on the turner's auction website.
If you've tried to get some sleep in an area
where this convoy or one like at some sabaru at
three am in the morning and there are dozens of them,
very annoying, very you know, distracting, can'ts I can see
why they're doing this, so why not double down on
the crush of thing. But it's about enforcement, isn't it.
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And that's the same with the phones. The phones, the
tiktop problem far bigger than the car one because it
affects well most kids, about ninety percent of kids when
they get to high school have a smartphone. So this
is interesting because we moved beyond a members bill now
to a government bill, so a social media ban of
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some sort is officially on the agenda. The problem with
enforcement here is obvious. How do you know when there
are so many workarounds, how do you make sure they're
not going on social media? And the enforces will not
be the police, It will be the parents. And here
is the problem with that. Most parents spend time on
social media, spend more time on social media than their kids.
(16:51):
Nearly half of KIWI teams say that their parent is
at least sometimes distracted by their phone when they're talking
to them. What sort of an example is being set here?
Is it like telling you not to smoke while you're
puffing away on a pack of Winning Blues on the couch.
Enforcement of whatever rules we pass to manage the impulses
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of our teenagers will ultimately be determined by how successful
those measures are in being enforced met such a five
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Speaker 1 (17:25):
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Speaker 2 (17:43):
Good Morning twenty four away from six News Talks said
b it is Monday morning, the trials of May and
the car crushing. Will talk to Police Association President Chris
Carhill about that before six and we'll be live to
the UK for the latest on the Ukraine putin talks
that may or may not happen through they're under sixteen
social media band situation. I don't actually personally, I don't
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care if this happens or not. It's not something that
directly affects me or bothers me much. But we spoke
to Before sixteen, the new group that's been set up
to push for this earlier in the program. But just
if you're a parent and you're worried about your child
on social media, and some parents are so worried about
their children on social media that they you know, they're
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being bullied at school, they're letting them stay home from school,
and things are that bad. You know, if it is
that bad, why would you buy your kid a phone?
I mean, I mean it's like giving them buying them
a gun, you know, or giving them drugs. I mean,
if it's that bad, why are you buying them a fine?
And if you want this to be from you know,
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sixteen and under, just buy them one when they're seventeen. Look,
as I said to our guest earlier, I'm not a parent,
so I don't know. Maybe it, but can't you say no?
Can you just say no? And if you can't tell me,
why not, Ryan, I've got thirteen and eleven year olds
that they don't have phones. Anthea says this is a
parenting problem. Another says, my daughter says no to her
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fourteen year old about social media and she accepts it.
What's the problem. Luke says social media is terrible. I
think we should ban ban it. I'm all for the
draconian laws. Twenty two away from six, Ryan Bridge, Callum
Proctor and Donedin for us this morning, Calm, good morning.
Fire at a Dunedin homeless shelter is sparking a conversation
(19:35):
about government investment. Yea morning, Ryan.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
This big blaze ripped through multiple tents at the Kensington
Oval last Friday. One person was injured there. Lucky really
that it wasn't a lot worse than that. And that's
led to our Mayor Jills Raddick calling on the government
to provide more funding for suitable facilities here to help
this community. He has previously proposed using a vacant holiday
park site, but that hasn't been some ordered by agencies.
(20:01):
A local labor MP Ingrid Leary agrees with our mayor.
She says Duneda just doesn't have the services of the
cities getting and the Ministry of Social Developments approved only
eighteen grants for short stays and emergency accommodation in the
last six months, down from one hundred and forty seven
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All Right, how's your weather, Callum.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Fine today, high cloud for Danita, northerleies and seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Nice one clears and christ Wh's clear? Good morning, Good morning.
Now what's happening with the weather and Bank's Peninsula?
Speaker 9 (20:28):
Well, yeah, the state of emergency remains in place for
Banks Peninsula.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Ryan, hard to believe.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
We have had a couple of pretty good days here,
but twelve days ago we had that record rainfall in Canterbury.
That's when the city Council noted this one hundred meter
crack opening up on Kadoha's Lighthouse Road. We've had an
update from Controller Brent Smith who says the land still
remains very saturated, particularly after more heavy rain on Friday,
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and they are watching for further slips. He says they're
receiving some updates from monitoring equipment on site, but they'll
need forty eight hours hours of data in order to
lift any state of emergency. Is is that data will
show whether the slip is moving and then enable counsel
to make some informed decisions for the residents who remain evacuated.
There's also some plans in place should the situation further escalate.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well, let's hope they can get back home soon. How's
your weather generally today?
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Clear for Canterbury today fine, aside from a bit of
long cloud early northeasterlies this afternoon and a high of sixteen.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Mexis and Wellington max Happy Monday, Yes you too. Now
what's happening with the power outages.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
Lingering anger in Wellington? The gale force winds and heavy
rain of a couple of weeks ago, at one point
causing about twelve hundred homes to lose power. The morning
after there was still one thousand. Almost a week later
there was still one hundred and fifty or so. What
it seemed to do is show how vulnerable our network
may be. Wellington Electricity says there were a few secondary
faults as well a handful of homes that were kept
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in the dark beyond those six days. Former councilor Sue
Kegley has reminded the Post that Welling Electricity is not
locally owned. In fact, it has Hong Kong owners a
listed address in the Bahamas. It was sold to the
public in the nineties. She fought against that and she's
now told the Post there's been little evidence of investment
and a real worry when our power is run by
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someone on another side of the planet.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I remember when that has the weather today, Matt.
Speaker 10 (22:19):
We fine, sorry, yeah fine, Northerlys High of sixteenth Central, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Thank you. It's nineteen minutes away from six and neighbors
here with me in Auckland. Good morning, good morning. How
was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
It was good, lovely and quiet.
Speaker 11 (22:32):
Yes, very good.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Now let's talk about this measles case. We now know
where the first well the case that's been identified in
Auckland has come from.
Speaker 11 (22:41):
Yes, that's right, crew member full of three sixty firies.
Now the case is linked to overseas travel. But I
can tell you that the patient was not infectious while
flying home to Auckland from Asia. So what we do
know the locations the case visited while infectious. Now they
include Woolwards, Calston. This was last Seturday and multiple follows.
(23:02):
Three sixty Faiy sailings, which was last Monday, Monday, the
fifth of May. And you know these some of these,
you know fairy sailings. They were Auckland to half Moon
Bay return late afternoon early evening. Also the Auckland to
Devenport Fairy times from seven pm to ten pm on
the Monday. So if you are concerned or worried, you
(23:24):
know the symptoms of measles, you know, fever, running, no
sore eyes, rash, of course, contact health line immediately.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
All right, good advice. Yes, how's our weather today? Neva
fine chance.
Speaker 11 (23:34):
Of a morning shower.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Today's high nineteen brilliant, Have a great morning. It is
eighteen minutes away from six news talk said be somebody
has said here the about the car crushing that's coming.
Wouldn't hurt to crush a few Falcons. Apparently they are
the budget skid car of choice now because they're cheaper.
It'll help mitigate the emissions too, says Andy. We'll talk
(23:56):
to the Police Association about that just before six and
we'll get to the UKNY.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
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Carhill Police Affigation standing by a quarter to six. Now
we'll go to our UK europe correspondent Gavin Gray given
good morning either now good to have you know, tell
us what because Trump is tweeting now about the Ukraine
potential talks happening on Thursday. But this all kicked off
because of the European leaders in Kiev at the weekend.
What's the latest here, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
So European leaders meeting in Kiev on Saturday. That was
Germany's Frederick meets and Poland's Donald Tusk, Francis Emmanual Macron,
the UK Secure Starmer others were on a virtual platform
and they said, look, really, we think there's one thing
to push Russia on, and this is a thirty day
ceasefire proposal beginning on Monday, and the threat hanging over
(24:51):
Russia was to face new and massive sanctions. Well, Russia
came back first of all with the government spokespstas saying
we won't be pressured into anything. And now pres and
putin in a late night news conference, very unusual for
him didn't give a clear response. Instead, he said, right,
I want now direct talks with Ukraine in Turkey next Thursday,
we gather the French. The Turkish President Richardtia Birdawan says
(25:14):
he's okay to host. He's going to do that, and
we now think US Secretary State Marco Ruby is off
to Turkey. The question is, of course, what will happen
on Monday, in other words, in just a few hours
time European time, because will that cease fire kick in
or will things just continue as normal which will leave
the plans of the European leaders rather in tatus.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, there's that a calling a bluff and then a
double calling of a bluff. Right, Yeah, anyway, we hope
there's a meeting on Thursday. Tell us the Royal household
the cost to the text by the British text, by
his trible But it's all about Buckingham Palace basically, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah, troubled in real terms in the last twelve to
thirteen years. You're right, Buckingham Palace is the big black
hole because there's a ten year program to modernize facilities
in the palace, including cabling. You wouldn't believe how ancient
the plumbing, the wiring and the new lifts going in
as well, and it's roughly going to cost eight hundred
(26:12):
million New Zealand dollars to do it over several years now.
Of course, that is being done with government money, with
taxpayer money. The Sovereign Grant, which provides taxpayer support for
the monarchy, was introduced thirteen years ago at sixty five
million New Zealand dollars a year, and it's risen now
to just under the two hundred and eighty million New
(26:36):
Zealand dollars a year, so once inflation's taken into account,
it's roughly threefold. But most of that appears to be
going into Buckingham Palace. Now some dispute these figures. They
don't like the way it's been calculated. Republic, which doesn't
want the monarchy around, says all those figures do not
include the figures of security, and that is a massive
fee as well that should be added. In opinion polls,
(26:58):
those suggest monarchy remains still very popular. Ryan Back in February,
fifty five percent viewed the monarchy positively, compared with thirty
six who saw it negatively. However, when it comes to
the money. The figures rather swap around, with fifty six
percent opposing twenty nine percent degreeing And it seems people
over the age of sixty five think the rows are
good value for money, but much much fewer less than
(27:21):
half of the twenty five to forty nine year olds
think that's the case.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Interesting Stuffkevin, appreciate your time, Gavin gray Are UK europe correspondent. Interestingly,
that costs still lower than presidential head of state systems.
Just gone twelve minutes, sorry, eleven minutes away from.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Six Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So Mike Mitchell's promising to basically outcrush the crusher on
boy races. If you're caught racing once and convicted, your
car can be crushed or sold rather than the current
three strikes law. Police Association president Chris Carrho with me
this morning. Chris, good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Lots to
talk to you about this morning. So the first of all,
Crusher actually only crushed three cars. How many do you
(27:59):
think police might get with these new powers.
Speaker 12 (28:02):
Well, the one conviction rather than having to have three
convictions under the current law, should make a difference. Look,
we've got to do something. These things are out of control.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Them.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
They're not just anti social boy racing. These things have
got to the point where the deliberately antagonizing police when
they turn up, they're getting bottled, they're getting their cars rammed,
and the public has had a guts of it when
it's in their neighborhood. So I think it's where the try.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
The firearms registry. So actors are basically doing agree to
disagree over this review. This talk of only saving two
lives a year if we have a firearms registry, does
that sound worth the expense? I mean, is that? What
is that what you are hearing?
Speaker 12 (28:43):
Well, it's a ridiculous measure. She asked for this review,
and she doesn't like the results, and now she doesn't
want to listen to it. I mean, two lives. To me,
two lives is worth it. But that was one incident.
She forgets that, actually the third life was the offender
who took his own life. What about the two police
officers that were shot at their incident, one suffering life
(29:03):
change and injuries. These are just one and so then
I can give you dozens where they're actually taking firearms
off the street because they've been identified through the regis
chairs being supplied by licensed firearms owners to criminals. She's
just upset that the results have actually been outstanding. And
why would you do a review after one year when
it's a five year inmentation before this is up and running.
(29:27):
It's just crazy that she doesn't like what she's hearing
so she wants to stop it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, it does sound a bit creat not to be
having a review, a review of a review which you
initiated to Hey, the five hundred extra cops a year
basically a few from what I can gather a few
months later than promised. We did actually know this a
little while ago. But big deal? Or do you think
they are genuinely trying here?
Speaker 12 (29:49):
I like they're definitely trying. They're trying really hard. Look,
we always said it's an arbitrary date that you give.
It's going to be tough. But I think what you
have to look is longer term, is this actually going
to be a bigger problem? We know that a struggling
to recruit, but we're also seeing attrition rise. I think
you're going to see longer term some real concerns around
(30:11):
whether police can get enough staff Auckland to south Is.
You know they've got like ten percent vacancies for constavory
staff right across Auckland at start become a real pressure point.
It's a worldwide problem and I think we might be
seeing it manifest itself in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Now appreciate your time.
Speaker 12 (30:26):
Chris.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Chris Carhill Police Association President with me this morning. It
is nine to six News Talk sev B on.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Ryan
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Speaker 2 (30:42):
News Talk SIB six the Sex on your Monday morning.
Is anyone else worried about having to pay to die?
Was that just me? Over the weekend I found this
quite alarming from Hospice New Zealand. They've come out basically
ringing the alarm bell. You know, do you will you
have to go private? If you've got a terminal illness,
you're in your dying days in pain? Do you go
home and have a panadole? How are we going to
(31:04):
do this without them getting the money that they need.
That's the problem that we've got because demand is up.
We're all living longer, which means there are more of
us and we all eventually die. Hospice nurses are paid
less than hospital nurses and Basically at the moment, Hospital
New Zealand is topping up the coffers to pay them more,
but that's putting them further into the red. There's no
(31:26):
pay equity deal for now because that's just been sort
of blown up. So what happens do you cut your services?
Do you disappear? And if that happens, then where do
we go to? Dine Ray and Bredge by the way
from six now, Mike, good morning. On that happy note,
I was going to.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
Say, as you'll show normally this chipperly that on a Monday.
Have you seen what they're doing in Britain with the
immigration speaking of rest homes, they're changing the immigration rules.
You will no longer be allowed to import somebody into
the country if they're going to work in rest homes.
You imagine if we did that, if we did that
in this country, no one.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Would there be literally no one doing anything.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Who's going to do it? Then?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Well the only Brits on the doll. BRIT's on the doll.
Speaker 13 (32:10):
So you can't bring somebody in because they surmised that
it's a weak visa link and.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You end up on a benefit.
Speaker 13 (32:16):
So in other words, that somebody comes in from Pakistan
and goes, oh yeah, work in the old people's home,
and then three months later you quit and then you
go on the benefit.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You never love it is.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
The Brits are their own worst enemy with immigration though,
because you know they will come across from France. I
mean they could stay in France, but the Brits have
got looser restrictions. It's easier for them to get into
dodgy work.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's what he's trying to That's what allegedly is trying to.
But I just can't work out.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
Given they're broadly speaking the same as us in terms
of an attraction to a country. You look at what
you look at the workforce in this country now and
take people, you know the low skill workout, take out
low skill work, and you say New Zealanders must do this.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
We'd literally cripple, wouldn't we We would.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Have no idea what would happen.
Speaker 13 (32:59):
Then we'll look at the crushing thing this morning, if
that makes any difference. I mean remember in two thousand
and omhen old crush, it came along ago, this was
going to fix it in thee cars. Later, same government
comes and you know, upset and well, what's the other
thing with the social media.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Oh yeah, explain to me, because you've obviously got children,
how do.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
You You don't you just say no, don't you?
Speaker 13 (33:18):
Well, get your parentings and well you don't say no
to a cell phone, Ryan, No.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
No, get a breaker, but not a smartphone.
Speaker 13 (33:28):
Well, you know that's theory versus reality. I mean, yes,
obviously too weak, but.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Of course they are.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
We're all weak, We're pathetic. That's what's wrong with the
world in the country.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
It's your fault, doesn't that exactly precisely anyway, Prime Minister?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
With us as well? Brilliant? Might next have a great
Monday everyone, I will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be good morning, Welcome to you Monday. It is
the twelfth of May. Six minutes after five. Great to
have your company coming up on the program. Police Association
on the Boy Races. If Judith Collins only crushed three cars,
how many will Mitchell the Destroyer get? Do we think?
We'll ask just before six this morning, Gavin Graham the
UK the King is costing the taxpayer three times as
(00:34):
much as the Queen did. We'll ask why under sixteen's
in the social media band we look at that shortly
and Andrew Alderson would sport the Warriors and their second
half will be a point of discussion.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Monday, the twelfth of May, patients called for direct talks
with Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
James, do we want serious talks with Ukraine?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Goal of such talks is to eliminate the root causes
of the conflict, hunt to reach and enduring and long
lasting peace for the historical long term.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Do you mean that though? Putin? Do you? It comes
after European leaders meet in Kiev, of course, at the
weekend demanding a thirty day cease fire since.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Monday, twelfth of May.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
A full and unconditional ceasefire must start or at least
thirty days we together demanded from Russia.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So there's calling a bluff and then there's double calling
a bluff. And Trump's just tweeted about all of this.
We'll get to that in a second. Ceasefire is elusive.
This morning, more claims of violations with India and Pakistan.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
They have been repeated violations of the understanding arrived at
earlier this evening, and we take very very serious notice
of these violations.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And we have heard the first Sunday mess from the
Pope card By What is happening to me? May imedately
come into a fact? Well? Yes, that would be nice,
wouldn't it. Let's hope I suppose we can all pray.
Eight minutes Half the Five News Talks MB.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
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Billy Edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof. Make Your
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Speaker 2 (02:16):
Can you talk ZMB Big week? This week? Quick look
your heads around the world. We'll start with the Diddy
trial that's happening this week. Everyone's going to be talking
about the Diddy video. So his defense team, which sounds like,
you know, crackpot defense team, absolute business, but they're desperate
to keep this video out of the trial. They haven't
been successful in doing that. It shows him assaulting his
(02:38):
ex girlfriend and then dragging her in a hotel room.
This was a video taken back in twenty sixteen. Anyway,
defense said no, not relevant to a sex trafficking trial,
and the judge said, yes it is. So that is
kicking off this week Thursday. Could Thursday be the day
that we get a face to face between Russia and
Ukraine direct talks in Turkey about ending the war? Probably not?
(03:02):
Probably not. And here's why, I mean, this looks much
more like bluster from Putin because Europe gave him. They
all stood up there in Kiev at the weekend, gave
him an ultimatum. And he doesn't like ultimatums, Posin, does he.
So Starmer was there, the whole crew was there, the
whole gang in Kiev at the week and they said, basically,
call a cease fire by Monday or guess what more sanctions.
(03:26):
Putin gets his back up, of course, and says, okay, okay,
let's talk face to face on Thursday, and no mention
of a ceasefire, and now Zelenski says no meeting without
a seat. I mean, you can see where this is going.
You can see what's happening here. He's basically bought himself
at least another few weeks before he gets hit with
more sanctions. Anyway, in the meantime, I guess try and
(03:47):
divide and conquer the unity of Europe. Also this week,
so that may happen on Thursday, but probably won't happen
on Thursday. Also this week, we've got inflation data out
of the US. We'll all be watching that closely. Trump
is off to the Middle East a week whistle stop
with the golf States. Pope's inauguration day is coming up.
We've got elections in Romania where the Trump candidate is
(04:08):
on track to win. Elections in Poland, we've got elections
in Portugal. And here, of course, the government now firmly
on its work agenda. Is this idea of an under
sixteenth insta banned. The social media thing problem is if
you ban this for kids, and this is where we
should all really start paying attention. If you ban it
(04:30):
for kids, won't we all have to prove our age?
How else do you make it work? I mean, you
can't just have a box that says yes I'm eighteen
or yes I'm sixteen or whatever and believe that that's
going to have any effect. This is the problem Australia
is having. So do you have to Will we all
have to take a photo of ourselves with our passports
or our driver's licenses send that to Facebook or TikTok
(04:55):
in China? Do you trust them? Are you going to
have biometric the art are taken so you can log
into your Facebook account so that under sixteen year olds can't. No,
I didn't think you were either. Anyway, we'll look at
this problem for a potential law change.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
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Speaker 2 (05:21):
News Talk said B five thirteen on news Talk said
B We've got New Zealand cricket players fleeing. This is
an India and Pakistan. Obviously, the problems that they've been
having over the weekend, reports that they were going to
be fleeing and getting the howl out of dodge. Basically,
now that there has been a ceasefire, does any of
that change. There are some violations happening, though they are
smaller than what was happening a couple of days ago.
(05:43):
Andrew Aldison will be with us to talk about all
of this in about five to seven minutes Time.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
News Talk, said b Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Now, the member's bill has become a government bill. This
is the Business on Kids and Social Media. Catherine Weed's
instaban bill stays in the but Luckson says that parents
love this idea. So Erica Stanford has picked up the
government work on the under sixteen social media restrictions. They're
calling them not a ban, but potential restrictions. Now, Melinda
(06:13):
McLain is a social media parenting expert from the new
group Before sixteen. Who's with me this morning, Melinda, Good morning,
Karida Ryan, Good to have you on the show. First
of all, this group that's been set up, is this
all a coincidence that it's been set up at this
at the time that the government's doing all this stuff.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
No, not a coincidence. I think two things at play.
One is that Before sixteen has actually been working on
this issue in the background for months, nearly a year,
and has been raising the issue across all members of
parliament in all parties. But there's also a point that
(06:53):
we're hitting as a society, I think where we've got
this sort of tidal wave of awareness around some of
the harm and the issues, so you know, we are
really coming to I think a societal turning point which
the government is aware of as well as as well
as parents who are who are actually sort of waking
up to the issues.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Is the problems. The age verification thing is a big problem, right,
This is what the Australians are having problems with. How
do you verify a child's age without us all having
to send in a photo of our passports?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Right?
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I think this is a really big misconception that thing
that this can't be done. So there's a couple of
things I'd say. So the first is that age verification
currently exists within big tech platforms, so they are using
their own age verification systems with a lot of accuracy already.
They just have never had an incentive to deploy this
(07:43):
as something that they need to do to have a
minimum age because there's no legislation to enforce it. And
the other thing I'd say is that there's an entire
age verification industry outside of the tech that are working
on this as well, and it hasn't so much been
a problem in Australia, said Australia is going through a
process of prototyping different options and being pitched to by
(08:05):
a bunch of different organizations and working out what the
best solution is. So, how do you not that they
can't do it?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Can you explain how they do do it then?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Without Yeah, so there's a couple of different ways, and
what we think would be the best way would be
a combination of what's called facial recognition, biometric scanning and
then using an ID token to match those two things.
And these can be done with over ninety nine percent accuracy.
That's what all the trials are saying.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So you have so you have to give your biometric
data to Facebook.
Speaker 7 (08:35):
No, in simple terms, you're not handing over your data.
This is done externally by a third party and you
don't hand over your data. So it just will basically
verify an ID token. That doesn't mean you're handing over
your data.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So who can do they? How do they verify it? Then?
I mean they must have to know that it's yours.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, there will have to be a linking to this
in the same way that we do this with things
like real me accounts for bank accounts. It's just the
issue with verification with something like real me is that
that's not working on actually determining the difference between a
fifteen and a sixteen year old. So that's the key,
the key.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
What about because there are problems that, well, it could
create problems for other people. Isn't this about parents knowing
what their kids are doing? If you don't want your
kid on social media, don't buy them a smartphone.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
I think that is something that would commonly be said
by people who are not a parent of a thirteen
or fourteen year old.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That is me to be transparent, that is me.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
There we go this. You parents are not equipped to
face up to what is happening with big tech. It
is moving too fast. And we're not even talking about
the issues of deep fakes of AI companions. You know,
we are simply talking about the algorithmic feeding of content at.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
The moment, but the actually owning the phone in the
first place. Explain to me why that is so so
hard that a parent can't say to the kid n
I mean, my mom said know to me about so
many things. Growing up, I wasn't allowed a cell phone.
I mean, yeah, what's so hard about saying no till
you're sixteenth?
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Yeah, I think the other thing that legislation will do,
because it's a really it's a really good point, why
not just say no? But but actually parents are no
match for this. And if you're out on a limb
with your kid, which at the moment, because the societal
norms are so far the other way, those need to
shift dramatically.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So so parents and parents actually just need a harden
up and tough enough.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
This is not a parenting issue, Ryan, This is and
it is it is unfair to put this on to parents.
They cannot, they cannot be a match for these big
tech companies. And we while while we do need.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But you can if you don't a phone, Okay, I mean,
I mean it's simple. They big tech can't get you
without a smartphone.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
They can get you, and they can get you through
iPads and family computers and lat And what we're talking
about is a really comprehensive overhaul of our online safety
reforms for kids in New Zealand. We are shockingly behind,
and so parents will have a role in this. But
actually we need change at a system level and we
need the government as a first step to set in
(11:16):
place some legislation. And Eric Stanford is an excellent person
to be leading YAOD.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
She's the best person you could have on the job.
I reckon, Melinda Hey, interesting stuff where you look forward
to having more debates like this and I'm sure in
the days and weeks and months ahead. Melnda McLain with
a social media parenting expert from the group. Before sixteen
it's five to twenty news talks, said be Andrew Orlison.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Next the first word on the News of the Day
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Twenty two Police Association. Just before six Andrew Orison here
was support Andrew. Good morning Greeting's Ryan. Now the great
weekend to sport and the worries. I mean, they won,
but the second half wasn't that great.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Edit's scrappy for the Warriors. But that's the thing you've
got to hold on and that's what they've done. And
now in clear second on the table, sixteen points two
behind the Bulldogs and still clear the likes of the
storm etc. See the storm, trouncing Benji Marshall's Tigers sixty
four and il So eleven unanswered tries, their Marshall answering
(12:20):
some questions about their die performance. But for the Warriors,
I mean, and Luke mccuffin that what was a bit
ten minutes to go?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
With the drop goal field goal and you be able
to secure one point win.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I'll take it. They will take that. I liked what
Andrew Webster said at the weekend about learning while we're winning. Yeah,
we've got to, you know, because yes, they're having some success,
but they're quite a young squad, aren't they. You need
to grow them kind of at the same time.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, I mean, there's always a lot to like about
what Andrew Webster says. I think he's just a bit
of a sage, isn't he. I think, and rising through
the coaching ranks, and the Warrior is lucky to have him,
and yeah, so's let's put them in good stead.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Now, what's happening with our cricket is that this is
Indian Pakistan, which sort of the weekend that some of
them are going to flee and then we've had a
six fire. But there's violations what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yes, so watching brief at the moments are still uncertainty
around that treat Bolt, Russian Revender and Devin Comay apparently
heading home Mitchell Center, and Bevin Jacobs still left there.
There's been a few air strikes, also an indication the
Tilament will resume later this week, so it's all up
in the air or not, as the case may be.
For the Indian Premier League. Also the consideration of the
(13:28):
Pakistan Super League, which due to run until May eighteenth,
so another week or so or just about six days
to go on that. That's been postponed indefinitely. So there's
still about I think eight or nine New Zealanders involved,
their likes that came with him, so I think in
a non playing capacity. But yeah, I'm still some concern
there for those those players in the Pakistan Super League
as well.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, keep an eye on that. And Ryan Fox,
how's he doing.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
He's even par through two holes today, so still I
think four strokes off the lead there, Ryan Fox. I
guess the key to this tournament. There's two PGA tournaments
going on simultaneously in the United States, and the winners
of each of them will get a place at the
PGA Championship next week. So Fox has to do that
(14:11):
if he wants to qualify for that major. And yes,
he's still well on the hunts so so far, so
I've got to We had.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That incredibly mercurial.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Round yesterday with nine birdies and six bogies across in
just the three pars from his round, but was able
to stay in touch. The other one to watch, of
course of the your co as well, she or Dame
didier Co. She is in the thirteenth at the moment,
so just sort a few strokes back I think off
the lead then in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Lots to watch. Andrew appreciate it, goode across. We're right,
thank you very much, Andrew Alison the sport for us
this morning twenty five minutes after five. I'll give you
my thoughts on not just the social media stuff, but
the car crushing, the fleeing drivers, all of that stuff too.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
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IV twenty seven after five NEWSTALKSB. So we're cracking down
on the kids. We're going to crush the cars, We're
going to crush the smartphones, which all sounds nice and lovely,
but it'll come down to enforcement. For all the time
Judith Colins spent in the scrap metal yards for photo ops,
it's not quite the crusher that those photo ops made
(15:23):
her out to be. She wasn't. And the five years
after they passed the law, guess how many cars they crushed? Three?
But that was a three strike solution. Mark Mitchell, the
destroyer is moving us to a first strike program. So
you're gone in sixty second street race. You've just won
away of those from the destruction of your car or
(15:43):
potentially your car ending up on the turner's auction website.
If you've tried to get some sleep in an area
where this convoy or one like at some sabaru at
three am in the morning and there are dozens of them,
very annoying, very you know, distracting, can'ts I can see
why they're doing this, so why not double down on
the crush of thing. But it's about enforcement, isn't it.
(16:07):
And that's the same with the phones. The phones, the
tiktop problem far bigger than the car one because it
affects well most kids, about ninety percent of kids when
they get to high school have a smartphone. So this
is interesting because we moved beyond a members bill now
to a government bill, so a social media ban of
(16:27):
some sort is officially on the agenda. The problem with
enforcement here is obvious. How do you know when there
are so many workarounds, how do you make sure they're
not going on social media? And the enforces will not
be the police, It will be the parents. And here
is the problem with that. Most parents spend time on
social media, spend more time on social media than their kids.
(16:51):
Nearly half of KIWI teams say that their parent is
at least sometimes distracted by their phone when they're talking
to them. What sort of an example is being set here?
Is it like telling you not to smoke while you're
puffing away on a pack of Winning Blues on the couch.
Enforcement of whatever rules we pass to manage the impulses
(17:13):
of our teenagers will ultimately be determined by how successful
those measures are in being enforced met such a five
Years Talks Lots of.
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Speaker 2 (17:43):
Good Morning twenty four away from six News Talks said
b it is Monday morning, the trials of May and
the car crushing. Will talk to Police Association President Chris
Carhill about that before six and we'll be live to
the UK for the latest on the Ukraine putin talks
that may or may not happen through they're under sixteen
social media band situation. I don't actually personally, I don't
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care if this happens or not. It's not something that
directly affects me or bothers me much. But we spoke
to Before sixteen, the new group that's been set up
to push for this earlier in the program. But just
if you're a parent and you're worried about your child
on social media, and some parents are so worried about
their children on social media that they you know, they're
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being bullied at school, they're letting them stay home from school,
and things are that bad. You know, if it is
that bad, why would you buy your kid a phone?
I mean, I mean it's like giving them buying them
a gun, you know, or giving them drugs. I mean,
if it's that bad, why are you buying them a fine?
And if you want this to be from you know,
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sixteen and under, just buy them one when they're seventeen. Look,
as I said to our guest earlier, I'm not a parent,
so I don't know. Maybe it, but can't you say no?
Can you just say no? And if you can't tell me,
why not, Ryan, I've got thirteen and eleven year olds
that they don't have phones. Anthea says this is a
parenting problem. Another says, my daughter says no to her
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fourteen year old about social media and she accepts it.
What's the problem. Luke says social media is terrible. I
think we should ban ban it. I'm all for the
draconian laws. Twenty two away from six, Ryan Bridge, Callum
Proctor and Donedin for us this morning, Calm, good morning.
Fire at a Dunedin homeless shelter is sparking a conversation
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about government investment. Yea morning, Ryan.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
This big blaze ripped through multiple tents at the Kensington
Oval last Friday. One person was injured there. Lucky really
that it wasn't a lot worse than that. And that's
led to our Mayor Jills Raddick calling on the government
to provide more funding for suitable facilities here to help
this community. He has previously proposed using a vacant holiday
park site, but that hasn't been some ordered by agencies.
(20:01):
A local labor MP Ingrid Leary agrees with our mayor.
She says Duneda just doesn't have the services of the
cities getting and the Ministry of Social Developments approved only
eighteen grants for short stays and emergency accommodation in the
last six months, down from one hundred and forty seven
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All Right, how's your weather, Callum.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Fine today, high cloud for Danita, northerleies and seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Nice one clears and christ Wh's clear? Good morning, Good morning.
Now what's happening with the weather and Bank's Peninsula?
Speaker 9 (20:28):
Well, yeah, the state of emergency remains in place for
Banks Peninsula.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Ryan, hard to believe.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
We have had a couple of pretty good days here,
but twelve days ago we had that record rainfall in Canterbury.
That's when the city Council noted this one hundred meter
crack opening up on Kadoha's Lighthouse Road. We've had an
update from Controller Brent Smith who says the land still
remains very saturated, particularly after more heavy rain on Friday,
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and they are watching for further slips. He says they're
receiving some updates from monitoring equipment on site, but they'll
need forty eight hours hours of data in order to
lift any state of emergency. Is is that data will
show whether the slip is moving and then enable counsel
to make some informed decisions for the residents who remain evacuated.
There's also some plans in place should the situation further escalate.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well, let's hope they can get back home soon. How's
your weather generally today?
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Clear for Canterbury today fine, aside from a bit of
long cloud early northeasterlies this afternoon and a high of sixteen.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Mexis and Wellington max Happy Monday, Yes you too. Now
what's happening with the power outages.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
Lingering anger in Wellington? The gale force winds and heavy
rain of a couple of weeks ago, at one point
causing about twelve hundred homes to lose power. The morning
after there was still one thousand. Almost a week later
there was still one hundred and fifty or so. What
it seemed to do is show how vulnerable our network
may be. Wellington Electricity says there were a few secondary
faults as well a handful of homes that were kept
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in the dark beyond those six days. Former councilor Sue
Kegley has reminded the Post that Welling Electricity is not
locally owned. In fact, it has Hong Kong owners a
listed address in the Bahamas. It was sold to the
public in the nineties. She fought against that and she's
now told the Post there's been little evidence of investment
and a real worry when our power is run by
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someone on another side of the planet.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I remember when that has the weather today, Matt.
Speaker 10 (22:19):
We fine, sorry, yeah fine, Northerlys High of sixteenth Central, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Thank you. It's nineteen minutes away from six and neighbors
here with me in Auckland. Good morning, good morning. How
was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
It was good, lovely and quiet.
Speaker 11 (22:32):
Yes, very good.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Now let's talk about this measles case. We now know
where the first well the case that's been identified in
Auckland has come from.
Speaker 11 (22:41):
Yes, that's right, crew member full of three sixty firies.
Now the case is linked to overseas travel. But I
can tell you that the patient was not infectious while
flying home to Auckland from Asia. So what we do
know the locations the case visited while infectious. Now they
include Woolwards, Calston. This was last Seturday and multiple follows.
(23:02):
Three sixty Faiy sailings, which was last Monday, Monday, the
fifth of May. And you know these some of these,
you know fairy sailings. They were Auckland to half Moon
Bay return late afternoon early evening. Also the Auckland to
Devenport Fairy times from seven pm to ten pm on
the Monday. So if you are concerned or worried, you
(23:24):
know the symptoms of measles, you know, fever, running, no
sore eyes, rash, of course, contact health line immediately.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
All right, good advice. Yes, how's our weather today? Neva
fine chance.
Speaker 11 (23:34):
Of a morning shower.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Today's high nineteen brilliant, Have a great morning. It is
eighteen minutes away from six news talk said be somebody
has said here the about the car crushing that's coming.
Wouldn't hurt to crush a few Falcons. Apparently they are
the budget skid car of choice now because they're cheaper.
It'll help mitigate the emissions too, says Andy. We'll talk
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to the Police Association about that just before six and
we'll get to the UKNY.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
International Correspondence with insign Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for
New Zealand business at christ.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Carhill Police Affigation standing by a quarter to six. Now
we'll go to our UK europe correspondent Gavin Gray given
good morning either now good to have you know, tell
us what because Trump is tweeting now about the Ukraine
potential talks happening on Thursday. But this all kicked off
because of the European leaders in Kiev at the weekend.
What's the latest here, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
So European leaders meeting in Kiev on Saturday. That was
Germany's Frederick meets and Poland's Donald Tusk, Francis Emmanual Macron,
the UK Secure Starmer others were on a virtual platform
and they said, look, really, we think there's one thing
to push Russia on, and this is a thirty day
ceasefire proposal beginning on Monday, and the threat hanging over
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Russia was to face new and massive sanctions. Well, Russia
came back first of all with the government spokespstas saying
we won't be pressured into anything. And now pres and
putin in a late night news conference, very unusual for
him didn't give a clear response. Instead, he said, right,
I want now direct talks with Ukraine in Turkey next Thursday,
we gather the French. The Turkish President Richardtia Birdawan says
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he's okay to host. He's going to do that, and
we now think US Secretary State Marco Ruby is off
to Turkey. The question is, of course, what will happen
on Monday, in other words, in just a few hours
time European time, because will that cease fire kick in
or will things just continue as normal which will leave
the plans of the European leaders rather in tatus.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, there's that a calling a bluff and then a
double calling of a bluff. Right, Yeah, anyway, we hope
there's a meeting on Thursday. Tell us the Royal household
the cost to the text by the British text, by
his trible But it's all about Buckingham Palace basically, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah, troubled in real terms in the last twelve to
thirteen years. You're right, Buckingham Palace is the big black
hole because there's a ten year program to modernize facilities
in the palace, including cabling. You wouldn't believe how ancient
the plumbing, the wiring and the new lifts going in
as well, and it's roughly going to cost eight hundred
(26:12):
million New Zealand dollars to do it over several years now.
Of course, that is being done with government money, with
taxpayer money. The Sovereign Grant, which provides taxpayer support for
the monarchy, was introduced thirteen years ago at sixty five
million New Zealand dollars a year, and it's risen now
to just under the two hundred and eighty million New
(26:36):
Zealand dollars a year, so once inflation's taken into account,
it's roughly threefold. But most of that appears to be
going into Buckingham Palace. Now some dispute these figures. They
don't like the way it's been calculated. Republic, which doesn't
want the monarchy around, says all those figures do not
include the figures of security, and that is a massive
fee as well that should be added. In opinion polls,
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those suggest monarchy remains still very popular. Ryan Back in February,
fifty five percent viewed the monarchy positively, compared with thirty
six who saw it negatively. However, when it comes to
the money. The figures rather swap around, with fifty six
percent opposing twenty nine percent degreeing And it seems people
over the age of sixty five think the rows are
good value for money, but much much fewer less than
(27:21):
half of the twenty five to forty nine year olds
think that's the case.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Interesting Stuffkevin, appreciate your time, Gavin gray Are UK europe correspondent. Interestingly,
that costs still lower than presidential head of state systems.
Just gone twelve minutes, sorry, eleven minutes away from.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Six Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So Mike Mitchell's promising to basically outcrush the crusher on
boy races. If you're caught racing once and convicted, your
car can be crushed or sold rather than the current
three strikes law. Police Association president Chris Carrho with me
this morning. Chris, good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Lots to
talk to you about this morning. So the first of all,
Crusher actually only crushed three cars. How many do you
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think police might get with these new powers.
Speaker 12 (28:02):
Well, the one conviction rather than having to have three
convictions under the current law, should make a difference. Look,
we've got to do something. These things are out of control.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Them.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
They're not just anti social boy racing. These things have
got to the point where the deliberately antagonizing police when
they turn up, they're getting bottled, they're getting their cars rammed,
and the public has had a guts of it when
it's in their neighborhood. So I think it's where the try.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
The firearms registry. So actors are basically doing agree to
disagree over this review. This talk of only saving two
lives a year if we have a firearms registry, does
that sound worth the expense? I mean, is that? What
is that what you are hearing?
Speaker 12 (28:43):
Well, it's a ridiculous measure. She asked for this review,
and she doesn't like the results, and now she doesn't
want to listen to it. I mean, two lives. To me,
two lives is worth it. But that was one incident.
She forgets that, actually the third life was the offender
who took his own life. What about the two police
officers that were shot at their incident, one suffering life
(29:03):
change and injuries. These are just one and so then
I can give you dozens where they're actually taking firearms
off the street because they've been identified through the regis
chairs being supplied by licensed firearms owners to criminals. She's
just upset that the results have actually been outstanding. And
why would you do a review after one year when
it's a five year inmentation before this is up and running.
(29:27):
It's just crazy that she doesn't like what she's hearing
so she wants to stop it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, it does sound a bit creat not to be
having a review, a review of a review which you
initiated to Hey, the five hundred extra cops a year
basically a few from what I can gather a few
months later than promised. We did actually know this a
little while ago. But big deal? Or do you think
they are genuinely trying here?
Speaker 12 (29:49):
I like they're definitely trying. They're trying really hard. Look,
we always said it's an arbitrary date that you give.
It's going to be tough. But I think what you
have to look is longer term, is this actually going
to be a bigger problem? We know that a struggling
to recruit, but we're also seeing attrition rise. I think
you're going to see longer term some real concerns around
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whether police can get enough staff Auckland to south Is.
You know they've got like ten percent vacancies for constavory
staff right across Auckland at start become a real pressure point.
It's a worldwide problem and I think we might be
seeing it manifest itself in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Now appreciate your time.
Speaker 12 (30:26):
Chris.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Chris Carhill Police Association President with me this morning. It
is nine to six News Talk sev B on.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Ryan
Bridge and one Roof to make your property search simple.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
News Talk SIB six the Sex on your Monday morning.
Is anyone else worried about having to pay to die?
Was that just me? Over the weekend I found this
quite alarming from Hospice New Zealand. They've come out basically
ringing the alarm bell. You know, do you will you
have to go private? If you've got a terminal illness,
you're in your dying days in pain? Do you go
home and have a panadole? How are we going to
(31:04):
do this without them getting the money that they need.
That's the problem that we've got because demand is up.
We're all living longer, which means there are more of
us and we all eventually die. Hospice nurses are paid
less than hospital nurses and Basically at the moment, Hospital
New Zealand is topping up the coffers to pay them more,
but that's putting them further into the red. There's no
(31:26):
pay equity deal for now because that's just been sort
of blown up. So what happens do you cut your services?
Do you disappear? And if that happens, then where do
we go to? Dine Ray and Bredge by the way
from six now, Mike, good morning. On that happy note,
I was going to.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
Say, as you'll show normally this chipperly that on a Monday.
Have you seen what they're doing in Britain with the
immigration speaking of rest homes, they're changing the immigration rules.
You will no longer be allowed to import somebody into
the country if they're going to work in rest homes.
You imagine if we did that, if we did that
in this country, no one.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Would there be literally no one doing anything.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Who's going to do it? Then?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Well the only Brits on the doll. BRIT's on the doll.
Speaker 13 (32:10):
So you can't bring somebody in because they surmised that
it's a weak visa link and.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You end up on a benefit.
Speaker 13 (32:16):
So in other words, that somebody comes in from Pakistan
and goes, oh yeah, work in the old people's home,
and then three months later you quit and then you
go on the benefit.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You never love it is.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
The Brits are their own worst enemy with immigration though,
because you know they will come across from France. I
mean they could stay in France, but the Brits have
got looser restrictions. It's easier for them to get into
dodgy work.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's what he's trying to That's what allegedly is trying to.
But I just can't work out.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
Given they're broadly speaking the same as us in terms
of an attraction to a country. You look at what
you look at the workforce in this country now and
take people, you know the low skill workout, take out
low skill work, and you say New Zealanders must do this.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
We'd literally cripple, wouldn't we We would.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Have no idea what would happen.
Speaker 13 (32:59):
Then we'll look at the crushing thing this morning, if
that makes any difference. I mean remember in two thousand
and omhen old crush, it came along ago, this was
going to fix it in thee cars. Later, same government
comes and you know, upset and well, what's the other
thing with the social media.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Oh yeah, explain to me, because you've obviously got children,
how do.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
You You don't you just say no, don't you?
Speaker 13 (33:18):
Well, get your parentings and well you don't say no
to a cell phone, Ryan, No.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
No, get a breaker, but not a smartphone.
Speaker 13 (33:28):
Well, you know that's theory versus reality. I mean, yes,
obviously too weak, but.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Of course they are.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
We're all weak, We're pathetic. That's what's wrong with the
world in the country.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
It's your fault, doesn't that exactly precisely anyway, Prime Minister?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
With us as well? Brilliant? Might next have a great
Monday everyone, I will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
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