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Coming up before six, we'll speak to a GP about
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the F one is on in Kuta and the water
bill for councils is in. It's big, it's massive, but
is it bigger than three waters? That's the question this morning.
The agenda Monday, the first of December. Pinch and a
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punch Israel netnya who's asking the president there for a pardon.
This is for his corruption cases. Yes, there are a
few of them. He's spent five years in court. Bribery, fraud,
breach of trust, you name it. He denies all of them.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
For a lot of pressure now on the office of
the President. And we have a statement from a President
Hartzog's office in which they see that this partner request
is extraordinary, it has significant implications and they're promising to
consider it. The sponsor unsincerely.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, it's extraordinary for a couple of reasons. I'll get
to those in a second, let's go to Venezuela. Though
they are very upset. Manduro is very upset. Trump says
the airspace above Venezuela is basically closed, should be considered closed.
The Foreign Ministry is calling it illegal and unjustified. The
US has been sharpening its strategy in the recent region
of late.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
There's clearly an attempt by the administration to project American
power through the Western hemisphere. That's not new historically, but
they're backing all of these populist right wing leaders for Brazil, Argentina.
The present intervened in the election today in Honduras saying
he was going to pardon the former president of Honduras
who was guilty, fou and guilty in the US of
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drugs trafficking.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And finally, this morning, Potato Heart Potato. The Wiggles are
in hot water after two members appeared in a music
video that alluded to drug use. The original Blue Wiggle
Anthony Fielders his name and his nephew, Dominic, who apparently
plays the Tree of Wisdom. They featured in Kellie Holliday's
(02:06):
new track. The title of the song is Ecstasy. That
Wiggles say they don't condone drug use and the video
was made without their approval.
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AV nine two nine two is the number to text
vapings no longer call, which is good. We'll tell you
more about the numbers than a second now, just very
quickly on net Yahoo in Israel. So the reason that
it's contentious is well, not just because you're asking for
a pardon for corruption charges, but the fact that he's
asking for a pardon before he's actually been convicted of anything,
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which is highly unusual. They have given presidential pardons in
Israel before, but almost never have they granted one before
a person has actually been convicted. Preemptive pardon and especially
if a politician in a corruption case without them actually
admitting guilt first, would be set a new precedent, but
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also would be very very controversial. By the way, all
of these charges that they're talking about this is for
political favors from wealthy people and in return you get
nice media coverage. That's the allegation. Anyway. Now back to
last week, because I just over the weekend was stewing
a little bit about this. The Unions and Willow Jen
prime Ice had her on the Herald on Friday on
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our show along with Erica Stamford and there yet last
week was what you can only describe as a co
ordinated attack on Erica Stamford and the numbers that they
came out with for the maths trial that they did,
which were fantastic. I mean, why would you not why
would you look for a reason to be cynical about them?
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I mean, I look at my job to be a
bit cynical about things, and I often am. But the
closer you look, the better it gets with this story.
But they weren't interested in that, so they went on
and attacked her, and they continued it at the weekend.
This is the mass acceleration trial for year seven and
eight students. These are kids who need extra support, so
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they give it to them and have given it to them,
and they made a year or two years of progress
in twelve weeks by focusing on basic stuff. Okay, and
for those who weren't in the acceleration trial, for just
regular kids actually just doing an hour a day of maths.
They progressed a full year in just twelve weeks, and
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the unions came out and they said, now this is
b Yes, this was rigged essentially, as was their claim,
it was a setup. The kids were asked the same
question at the start, and then they were asked the
same question after twelve weeks, and therefore it was easy
and it was all set up for them to do well. Well,
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Actually what happened was, yes, they were asked the same question.
But if just think about that for a second. If
you were asked a maths question on week one and
then asked to do the same question on week twelve,
would you necessarily remember no? If you're a year seven
or eight student, would you necessarily remember no? But here's
the proof in the pudding. After three months they were
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asked the same questions again. So the chances of you
remembering all of these questions and all of these answers
at week one, at week twelve, and then three months
after that, which was like a safety check to make
sure that the results were actually accurate, I think a
slim to none. So for the unions and for the
naysayers and the detractors, just sush, go away. Number the
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good eleven after five, News Talk said b we will
get to f one also a potty or amea because
the local water had done well. So national's got local
water done well. Labor had three waters, which one is
more expensive? Well, we'll find out next. News Talk SETB.
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News TALKSTB by fourteen some success, it seems on vaping
as well for young people. So this is ash a
year ten snap shot. So fourteen and fifteen year old
smoking and vaping habits. Their daily vape uses dropped from
eight point seven percent to seven point one percent. Regular
vaping was down to eleven point two percent. That's down
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from fourteen point one percent, so a pretty significant drop.
You'd have to say cigarette smoking while they barely even
touch it one point one percent and two point five
percent respectively. It's fourteen minutes after five Bryan Bridge, we
got new numbers on the cost of local water done well.
The government says reforms will cost forty eight billion bucks
over the next decade, with thirty and thirty just over
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thirty billion for waste and storm water. For comparison, Labour's
three waters was estimated to cost one hundred and twenty
to one hundred and eighty five billion dollars, but that
was over thirty years. Anita Baker is the Polydoa mar
and joins me this morning, Good morning, good morning. So
there's no direct comparison there. It's not apples with apples,
because you know one's over ten years, one's over thirty.
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But in your area, what how much is this going
to cost you over the next ten years? Do you
have a handle on that yet? And is it going
to be more than you think it would have been
under an alternative model.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I think it's going to be the same on it
either model. In the end overhead a better model previously.
But as you said, it was ten years. But it's
still thirty percent of council's debt moving over to the
new water entity, Tucky. And in the long run, it
is the rate payer paying because of the under investment
we've had on water over the last sixty years.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Does this mean so what purpose of a rates increase
would you expect to attribute to water?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Oh, that's a very good point. We haven't got it
down to numbers like that. Because Takiwi will have to
set what they're going to charge people, and the problem
with that is water is a basic human right and
what they need to charge is higher than what probably
you can actually afford. At the moment. It's going to
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be an expensive part of our rate bill because we're
not used to it. They've been paying less and we've
been under investing.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So it'll be a separate bill, totally separate bill.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
But your rate bill will come down by by thirty
percent in the sense that saved thirty percents coming out,
but the water bill will come up, so it'll be
paying a lot more than you used to.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
How many of your residents do you think mon't be
able to afford water?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Well, I think they'll be able to afford it because
the Takiway is going to have to make it affordable.
Is a human right and we're under regulation economic regulation,
so it'll be how quickly can they update all the
pipes going forward. I think in this area harmonization is
needed because in the Wellington region we're all putting over
different amounts of debt and the water comes from one source,
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so I think that we should all pay the one amount,
but that it is discussion with the board.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So hang on, so to explain to me how this works,
so pottydor, because you guys have always had problems with
your pipe. So are you saying that if everyone is paying,
if the entity charges everybody the same, then your residents
will be worse off because they don't have as much money.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Well it really we don't know that, and that's the problem.
It could be because of the amount of debt everybody
puts across. And that's why we all need to sit
down and work this out, because you can't have one
city paying a lot more than another one who's paying
less because of under investments. So it is definitely a
subject that is on the radar.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
At the moment right now. Appreciate your time this morning
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time is eighteen after five Sport next.
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Paul in One News Talk said b five twenty cit
there's a ceasefire on in action in Gaza, but apparently
not in the UK for the supporters, so dozens of
protesters they have been arrested under the Terrorism Act.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
They've got pro Palestine demonstrations going lots of cities across
England at the moment, but particularly last night and over
the weekend. So we'll talk about that with Gavin Gray
in the UK. Just quarter two six this morning, it's
five twenty Ryan Bridge to Adam Cooper's Sport. Good morning, Adam,
Hey run, So we've got if one on and cut on.
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Yeah, obviously just underway lap ten of fifty seven, got
a bit of a safety car at the moment, Nico
Hultenberg sort of spinning out after a bit of contact,
but obviously all eyes and this one in particular Ryan
on Land. Though Norris a win over his main rivals
of course, our teammate Oscar Piastri and Maxwist up and
would secure him the twenty twenty five championship with a
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race to spare. He's not in the lead at the moment.
He obviously started second on the grid and maxwist stuff.
But even though he was third, he had the sort
of the inside channel on the grid, sover Stappin was
able to get ahead slightly be the second, being the
second place at the moment as a result of the
safety card. There's been a few pit stops and things,
so Norris second, verst Up in third and Upholster to
Piastree still in the lead, so that's probably most of interest.
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Liam Lawson there or thereabouts eleventh at the moment, obviously
started twelfth on the grids. Obviously, the underlying sort of
point of interest this weekend with Liam Lawson is that
Red Bull seat for next year and what is happening.
We've been told for a while now it's sort of
going to be decided possibly after this race, so yeah,
hopefully he can have the best possible tilt at any
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final decision as a result of what happens in Kassa
this morning.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Absolutely right, a bit slippery for Auckland FC and was
a bad result too, Yeah, not great to go to.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Those weather conditions in Auckland were absolutely treacherous, weren't they.
Puddles and really huge pools of water on certain parts
of Mount Smart Stadium yesterday. I'd sort of was watching
that wondering would this be called off? Would they take
a bit of a break while the rain carried on?
But they didn't, And yeah, Auckland f C, I'd say
that probably slightly concerned after well, by their standards, not
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a great couple of weeks, obviously, a draw last week,
a loss yesterday to Newcastle two to one. This is
a team that's, you know, since their inception just over
a year ago, has been very used to winning and
setting very high standards. And Steve Corker was that their
coach wasn't even happy after last week's draw. I can't
imagine what his response to his team has been like
as a result of their defeat yesterday. Sets up something
(12:46):
pretty interesting, Ryan, because as you'll know, the Phoenix who
have struggles against Auckland f C and the Kiwi derby's
through that the Fords RBS so far well. The Phoenix
actually had a win over the weekend, so they've got
a bit of confidence behind them. And Auckland FC, i'd
say we feeling a little bit under pressure ahead of
the derby in Auckland this Saturday, so ready looking forward
to that given those results over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, hopefully the weather improves. I said it was a
bit slippery, but as I looked out the window yesterday
I thought, man, then it's bucketing down. I think it's
flooded rather than look crazy. It was. Hey, Alice Robinson,
this is a great story. Well it continues to be
a great story.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Yeah, twenty three years old, and you know she's been
a prospect in the world of skiing for for some
time and you know a lot of people have been
following her progress. But you know, she's just delivering some
some amazing results. The latest yesterday the Giant Slatom event
in Colorado. It was her fifth World Cup victory to
start her season. So you know, she's just showing that
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her skill set, her class is still there up with
the world's best.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So you know, she's someone.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Who's had some up to ups and downs through her career,
but she's she stayed strong and obviously took out a
pretty convincing when yesterday when you look at some of
her results stacked with the other field. So yeah, great
result for Alice Robinson. You know, awesome to see that
the New Zealand is sort of continuing to produce top
quality skiers around the world.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
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Five twenty six News Talks AB Congratulations, we've made it
to summer. We've made it to the end of the year.
Were almost there, almost there. It is the first of
December and the housing market is once again in the
driver's seat for the economy, but not heading in the
direction that we're used to, is it. Yes, the recovery
is underway, but the brutal truth of twenty twenty five
(14:36):
I think was summed up rather well by Sir Bill
English in an interview about the current state of play. Basically,
this protracted downturn, which for anyone living outside Queenstown or
living on a dairy farm has felt about as drawn
out and depressing as a COVID lockdown, has been made
worse by the housing market, not better. It's not firing
back into life like it usually would at this stage
(14:58):
of the cycle. The health effect hasn't kicked in, the
recoveries taking longer. In the long run, English argues, this
is a good thing because supply has been coming on,
Planning laws are being changed. You know, we've got intensification
coming for the big cities. This should keep prices low
or in some cases see them fall. Does that make
(15:19):
it any easier to stomach. No, is he right? Probably?
If it's happening, this structural shift is going to create
headaches for anyone relying on property and a boom in
property in order to get rich. Like hmm, I don't
know who's relying on property, who's relying on capital gains
for money for revenue? Well, hipkins and labor. Of course
(15:43):
they were out at the weekend making it rain with cash,
this time on GP clinics who apparently can't get bank
loans to start practices which are effectively licenses to print money,
like the free GP visits for billionaires and the rest
of us. The policy relies on revenue from a capital
gains tax. What if those gains don't happen, or they
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don't happen to the extent that they assume that they will.
What if the gains look more of the sort that
we've seen over the last few years, ie nothing or
losses than what? What's that old saying about your mouth
writing checks that your ass can't cash. I think that
comes into play here. Without those Golden year capital gains increases,
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it won't just be the economy feeling their loss, but
politicians with big spending agendas. Also, twenty eight minutes after
five news talks, they'd be now Trump and the Venezuela situation.
So what's interesting, Well, there's a couple of interesting things
about it, like the fact that they are currently simulating
attacks near the Venezuelan border to invade, which is quite dramatic.
(16:48):
But one of the things that's interesting is because he
has come out with this tweet or the truth social
post saying, consider the airspace around Venezuela closed. They can't
send no no American airline is going to fly there.
But also they can't deport the illegal migrants that they
have been two flights a week apparently, and they have
(17:09):
had to stop because well, the air space should be
considered close. And now you've got a pile of a
growing line of migrants, illegal migrants who are not being
deported back to Venezuela. We will talk to Gavin Gray
out of the UK. I told you the story a
couple of months ago about the nuns who had escaped
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their retirement home and gone back to the convent that
they used to inhabit. There's a little update on the nuns,
Nuns on the run. I think we called them. Gavin
Gray with that and much more News Talks, the b.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
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Me twenty four away from the Sex News Talks. Great
to have your company. Now, I just want to make
clear that we are obligated by law, by contract to
play one Christmas song every show. If Mackenzie doesn't do it,
she gets fired. So don't hate me. It's going to
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happen every day until Christmas. Okay, Now we're going to
before six o'clock Heed to the UK. They have him
big protests. They're still over Gaza, are lots of arrest.
We'll talk to Gavin Gray about that. We'll also talk
before six to gen Pro. This is GPS about Labor's policy. Well,
I find interesting about Labor's policy announcements over the weekend.
And they're a big conference in Auckland, big shiny fancy
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down on the viaduct. They won't do media interviews this morning,
so they didn't come on with this show, won't come
on with the Herald Show. What's up with that? Like
we I think we tried for Verel, we tried for Hipkins,
and we try for Barb. No, no, no, it's just
a big no no. What because they had a busy
weekend and they want to give them a rest. I mean,
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you've got you've got an election to win next year people,
Or is it because the policy is so filled with
holes that you could drive truck throughs trucks through that
you don't want them to be interviewed by anybody? I
don't know. Anyway, they Hapkins does this regular thing tomorrow,
so they're saying that that's your opportunity. Anyway. I suppose
that leaves it open for Luxeon to come through today
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and give his reaction, which he will later this morning
on hosting. It's twenty two minutes away from six Ryan
our reporters around the country Culum and to Eden Collum,
Good morning, morning Riot. So the freedom camping rules, the
new ones for Queenstown Lakes. What's the deal and who
will they benefit? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Well, look they're kicking today Ryan, and the district council
is going to be really clamping down on this so
everyone will win. They now require freedom campers to use
fifteen designated car park sites from today court. Camping in
any other areas, you could face fines of at least
four hundred dollars minimum. Campus must also use certified self
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contained motor vehicles and not stay more than two nights
in those places in a thirty day period. The council says,
the bilog is then better control. It ensures visitors respect
both the community and the environment, and they will be
actively monitoring these sites at ryan and also addressing any misconduct.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
All right, how's the weather.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
A few showers about in the south here today, southwester
east and Eden's high fourteen.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Cheers callum, thank you, Claire in christ chur, It's clear,
good morning, good morning. Now you've got the mare quite
hot under the collar. About the Red Zone land once
it's used for housing asap.
Speaker 10 (20:40):
Yeah, we knew that this was on his mind, but
given the fact that he's just started his second term,
we thought we'd put it direct to him, and sure enough,
he wants it into housing asap. The city Council has
nineteen parcels of what they call edge housing land across
ten hectares in the Red Zone. That's alongside twenty four
hectares of trial housing areas. The Red Zone is around
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six hundred hectares in size all up. No decisions have
been yesh on how or when they may be developed.
Of course, some of them are totally out of zone
post quake, but some are okay for land. Meyfield Major says,
council's got to use this land before looking at any
more land outside of christ Church. He says, if that works,
then they can look for more. Further, Major is keen
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to give or lease the land to housing providers like
the likes of the Autotahi Community Housing Trust.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
All right, how's you were the clear some cloudy.
Speaker 10 (21:33):
Periods if you show was developing this morning southwesterly is
turning easterly and the high will be twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Thank you and Maxim Millings and morning Max, good morning.
Got a new measles case?
Speaker 11 (21:43):
There yeah, one new case in the capital. A handful
of locations of interest. This is linked to an earlier case.
Those locations New World Wakefield Street, the BP in Barrenpoor
and New World Newtown. Clearly a loyal New World shopper.
Twenty two known cases nationally now since October measles, but
twenty one no longer infectious. This is clearly something that's
(22:04):
still going, but of course get the vaccine, get your
kids the vaccine. And the message is simple, do the
right thing if you show any symptoms. How's you wear
the max mostly find Today's Stronger Norwesterly's eighteen.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
The High, thank you and never in Auckland. Good morning
there that morning. Now you've got an update from a
youth homeless charity. Homelessness charity.
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Yes, now look this charity. It says, well, look the
snapshot of youth homelessness. It's an SOS. Another SOS, shall
we say to the government, so kickbacks. First State of
the Street report that's come out and it shows that
the organization supports more than one hundred and sixty people.
This is in the first year of its initiative called
the front Door. So it shows half of the people
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we're experiencing homelessness in Auckland Central and over sixty percent
of them will rung A Tahi Maldi as well. So
Aaron Hendry, he's the charity founder. He says, Look, the
number of children is especially concerning for them, seventeen percent
a tum and some of the extreme cases of them
sleeping on the.
Speaker 13 (23:02):
Street or CouchSurfing.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Okay, so yeah, all right. How's the weather showers can ring.
It's going to be fine today over a lot of
rain yesterday, neighbor, wasn't it? Yeah? Did you go to
the Santa Parade? No, of course I did, out of
the front row.
Speaker 12 (23:19):
No, but I did. I thought, oh, well, got those
kids because they were dancing and no.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
They were having good time. But what a nightmare getting
home after all that rain.
Speaker 14 (23:28):
I know.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
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Quarter to six on news talks in b ceasefire and Gaza,
but not in the UK for their supporters, it seems.
Gavin Gray, a UK europe correspondent with us Kevin, good morning,
good evening.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
To you hither Ryan, Yes, more demonstrations in support of
Gaza here, despite the campaign and the ceasefire that has
already existed now for several weeks. A group called Defend
our Juries organized demonstrations in ten different locations and major cities,
among them London, Bristol, Manchester, Birmingham throughout England, with the
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organizers saying they're protesting against the government's complicity in genocide
and against the ban on Palestine Action. Now, Palestine Action
was a group that the government decided was categorized as
a terrorist organization, and that meant that being a member
of or showing support for can lead you spending some
considerable time in jail. In Bristol, thirty one were arrested, Manchester,
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thirty four Birmingham, twenty five, ten in Norwich and more
arrested in London two. All this, though, comes at a
time when there's currently a court case going on over
allegations six members of Palestine Action broke into an Israeli
defense firm's UK site and started damaging property inside, and
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allegations that two police officers were attacked by a sledgehammer,
one on her back, which left her unable to get
dressed or go to work for several months afterwards.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's terrible. Now to more heavy news. The Austrian nuns.
We've been taught the runaway nuns. We've been talking about
them for a couple of months now, and there's a
wee update.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
There is Indeed, yes, the runaway nuns, aren't they. Marv's
eighty eight year old sister Bernadette, eighty six year old
sister Regina, and eighty two year old sister Rita were
kicked out of their convent nest Salzburg in Austria when
the church said, look, it's no longer a safe building
and we think you need to go to a home
with assisted living. Well, the nuns went on the run.
They left there and managed to get back to the convent,
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and with the help of their former pupils, because they've
all been teachers, and indeed some locksmiths who volunteered, they
managed to break back into the convent and said this
is where we want to spend the rest of our lives.
The church shot back with all yeah, but you might
fall on the steep staircase, and the nuns said, we
don't care. We'd be happier falling here than we would
staying in some sort of a care home. Well, finally
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the church authorities have said okay, you can stay. However,
they have said only if you stop posting on social media.
And it's through social media that this group of three
nuns have managed to attain such popularity and indeed such support.
Rather interestingly, though, it must be said Ryan that in
all this support that they are getting. There is as
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well that general feeling that the church perhaps shouldn't meddle
with things that are quite happy as they.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Are absolutely givin thank you, Gevin Groaning are UK europe correspondent.
It is twelve to six Brian Bridge Labour's promising to
offer low interest lines for doctors and nurse practitioners to
sit up or buy into a gpre practice. This is
from next year, providing there when the election. Of course,
up to fifty lines a year focused on communities with
no GPS or closed books. According to Hipkins.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
It'll give doctors and registered health professionals are helping hand
and setting up new medical practices.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Doctor Angus Chambers is chair of gen Pro joining me
this morning, good morning, good morning. Is this a good
Is this a necessary or needed policy?
Speaker 14 (28:21):
Well, we definitely think it's not the merit. I mean
it's not going to change the world massively, but it
certainly is going to help in some of the areas
that we think are quite important.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Is getting lending a big problem, Well, look yes it is.
Speaker 14 (28:37):
I mean there's two sides to it. The prices for
general practice has had considerable upper pressure because of the
entry of corporates into the market, and they've certainly pushed
the price up. And then at the same time, the
people who are generally buying practices not always, but they're
in this position where they're starting their career. They may
easily have mortgages, I'll often have student loans. They've got children,
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a difficult time to be borrowing considerable amounts of money.
So yeah, those two things combined mean it's become more
difficult to see those people enter into the general practice teams.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Is that a problem? Like, is there something wrong with
corporates owning GP practices?
Speaker 14 (29:16):
Well, I guess that there is some concerns about that,
and if you look at the geopolies we have in
supermarkets and other areas banks, you start to see that
this consumer doesn't really benefit in that in the long term,
and I think we are heading towards that. There's some
pretty good evidence that there's an inexorable creep of corporates
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buying practices and less gps owning them. So I think, yes,
that that is a problem. The other side of it
is our operators due to a great service for their communities,
and I think we see some better constitutive care. If
you buy into a practice, you tend to stay there
for a long time in other ways again, and that
actually promotes that kind of relationship thing which is so
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vital for good outcomes and primary care.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Does this you said the prices are the big problem,
and the corporate's coming and pushing up the prices. This
doesn't bring down the prices, does it? In fact of anything?
Does this not encourage price inflation?
Speaker 14 (30:15):
Look, I think is there already?
Speaker 9 (30:16):
No?
Speaker 14 (30:17):
I think it just means that there's a bit that
you're better able to these people will be better able
to keep compete. So I don't think we'll see the
prices go up, but I think it will make it
easier for those gps and there's practitioners who want to
buy to get into the market. We have certainly seen
anecdotal evidence of people having to walk away because they
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can't compete. So yeah, we think that's helpful.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
All right, fair enough? Does it? What do you think
they're going to do? Labor on the staffing issue, because
that's the other big problem of course, isn't it is
actually getting gps in the door to do the work
we need them to do.
Speaker 14 (30:52):
Yeah, lookin we've got a long way to go. On that.
I mean, I think this will also help a bit
because getting people into practic ownership, you might call them
slightly golden handcuffs. It gets people in there and retains them.
But yeah, there's a long way to go on the staffing.
So you know, we've had quite a few initiatives over
the last couple of three years of more training places
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for general practitioners. You know, we're looking at the medical school,
but you know that's going to be a long time
before it produces adopters. So the staffing issue is still
really problematic, and in the end, retaining our existing staff
is one of the best strategies we've got to that
and that unfortunately comes back to the funding issues that
we've have been raised many times in the area.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And Gus appreciate your time this morning. Thank you. Angus Chambers,
who is chair of gen Pro. It's eight to six
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good morning, Greetings, rye, and everything's giving up as we
head into December. The air conon here is broken. I've
given up. No, you hate you would never the clock's
given up. That's broken.
Speaker 13 (32:11):
It's a miracle. It's a miracle.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
We're still on still on here?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Do you know?
Speaker 13 (32:14):
Let me tell you the story, and the management will
hate me telling the story. You know the lights in here?
Do you know how many days it took to replace them? No,
one hundred and ninety five.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You can't make that better? And is this with you?
Your com me cracking the whip.
Speaker 13 (32:27):
If I hadn't been complaining, we'd have taken eight hundred
and fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
It would never have happened.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
It's unbelievable. Are you interested in the if one or not?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Really?
Speaker 13 (32:34):
Well, we spoke about this on Friday, I remember, Yeah,
not really that interested?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Okay, I mean I sort of. So Lawson started in twelve.
Speaker 13 (32:41):
Yeah, he's currently twelfth. But it's don't pay any attention
to that, because they've got what's interesting about this. Here's
a fun fact for you.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Give it to me because they How.
Speaker 13 (32:51):
Much time have I got? Because the clocks, I don't know,
you're got a minute twenty Okay? So because they built
this track. So the problem with F One for people
watching this this morning is it's a boring race, so
it's not actually worth watching.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Well, I'm glad we've admitted that.
Speaker 13 (33:04):
No, No, it's a boring race because of the track.
And the track is such a spectacular track because it's
built with oil money in the Middle East. They've made
just a glorious track. But the problem is that there's
two perfect there's no overtaking, and there's three corners that
are so fast that they've limited and this is the
only race that happens this year. They've limited the number
of laps you can do on a set of tires
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to twenty five laps, because if you go any further
than twenty five, probably won't stand behind the tire anymore.
Because the pressure on the tire going around the corner
is eleven twelve or thirteen or twelve thirteen forty whatever
they are. You're going so fast around the corner the
tires can't cope with it.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
After twenty five they would blow up, they'd explode, and
your car would crash exactly.
Speaker 13 (33:46):
So the thing that makes it semi interesting is that
you're forced to pit at least twice, so in pitting
at least twice.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
What's interesting about someone pitting, well, because anything can happen,
because then you've got to take off.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
You've got to go slow, you got to get you know, that's.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
About lame, Isn't that? The exciting bet is watching them
stop and start again?
Speaker 13 (34:07):
Well yeah, I suppose all right, all run into each
other a couple of running into each other. But anyway,
so that's.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
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