November 13, 2025 • 39 mins
Mike Holmgren joins Softy and Dick to talk about the Seahawks-Rams matchup, and more. Coach then talks about who he thinks has the edge between Matthew Stafford and Sam Darnold. Mike Holmgren is here to talk and react to Cal Raleigh finishing second in the MVP voting.
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Speaker 2 (02:33):
We gotta say we should get an extra pair of
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Speaker 3 (02:36):
But you ever to care?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Honestly, he doesn't care. Wants to do her crossword puzzles
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The medical world. She can do whatever she wants, but
it's great to see Kathy.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I just took a picture of you guys, by the way,
and I sent it to my wife, Gina, and her
response was, she looks great.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
By the way, What about.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Says you look okay? She looks phenomenal, is what she said.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Mike, Homgrin, Kathy home Grin with us here and again, Mike,
we're gonna know probably in the hour. We're we're hoping
by five o'clock if cal Rawley has won the American
League MVP. And I mean, you've been in situations like
this before with your players where they're waiting to get
honors when the season comes to an end. What is
this like for a coach when when your top dog,
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when your guy is sitting there on edge waiting to
see if he's won a big time award.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, you're really pulling for him. First of all, you
know what he did, and and you know if I
was his manager's coach or something, and what he did remarkable,
Kick and I were telling you know is a catcher
first of all, bats both ways, and and just home
runs and leadership and all the stuff he did to
get the Mariners as far as they got. I don't
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know how they can't give it to him. And as
a coach hoping for a player like far have wanted
a couple of times Montana, you know, I have guys
that would win it, and you're just pulling for him
because you know how much they sacrifice what they did
for the team.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
And you have some control over whether guys win MVPs.
Baseball managers don't. They just throw guys out there and
they get their numbers. But you actually have control. You
helped Seawan Alexander right get the MVP award. How much
did that play into your thought process?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Well, during the season and during games, it doesn't play
in it at all, I'll be honest with you. But
as it gets near the end and the dust settles
and now there's going to be a voting in a
week or something. Now now you're pushing and you're talking
to people and you're trying to help him if you can.
But yeah, it's a special award, no question about it.
(04:49):
And think of it all the guys. Think of how
much one guy out of the total group gets it right,
and so that's something special.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, some coaches have little bonus is in their contract
when their guys win awards like this.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Did you ever forget a little bumped? Did you get
a bump when Sean won?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Huh? I should have?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I didn't. Absolutely I didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Maybe you go back retroactively to the Hawks, go go
call Chuck Arnold.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Sidio's a million dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
The only the bonus, the bonus thing I got. The
best bonus thing I got was in Green Bay and uh,
if we won ten eleven games or something like that,
he kicked in with a good chunk of money. We're
playing the Steelers, okay and Green Bay, and they're down there,
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they're gonna drive for the winning touchdown. They throw a corner,
falls down, They throw a pass to the receiver in
the end zones all by himself. He drops the ball.
Remember who it was? I forget who? But cow are
we Yancey thick been?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Wow? How about that happened?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
So then, so then, but then I go up with
to shake Bill Cower's hand after the game, because we're friends.
Any I go, he goes nice going. I go, you
don't even know I'm hugging it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, Kathy may have been more excited about the bonus
than you work for.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
God six that's why she knew the name of the players.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Good for you, it's incredible. We'll pull Kathy coach a
big one this week. You know, we've had coaches here
in the past. Pete Carroll says every game is a
championship game. He never treated one more than the other.
Do you treat it at all differently when you're seven
to two and you're going to get the seven and
two team for first place this late in the season.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
You can say you don't, but you do?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
You do?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I mean, you know, the players know it. You might
talk to them a little bit. They know how important
it is. And I've told you guys before anytime when
I was coaching and I went against my old team,
right either Packers of the forty nine ers, there was
extra and the players knew that. They felt it from me.
They'd say, well, he's different this week, you know. And
(07:01):
I try not to be you try and say, okay, yeah,
it's an important game, but we have a lot of games.
But no, this is a big one and they know it,
and the coach is known.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, well, there's a lot to talk about with this
game on Sunday. There's no doubt. But let me let
me go back to the game of the Cardinals for
a second. Obviously, another slaughter by the Seahawks. Third time
this year they've really destroyed somebody. The second time in
the last two weeks. It is the second time, by
the way, in two weeks. They're playing a team on
a short week because the Commanders had that Monday night
game as well. But I want to talk to you
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about the turnovers. I want to talk to you about Sam
Darnold's turnovers that he had. And I'm looking at the
scores of the games when these turnovers took place. I
had them on my notes somewhere, Dick and I lost him.
The first pick was at thirty eight to seven, fumble
was at thirty five to eighteen. I think it was
thirty one to seven against the Commanders when Sam had
a pick. Do those bother you when you're seeing a
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turnover and a mistake like that in a game that's
already over.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It always bothers me when you turn It always bothered
me when they turn the ball over. If I thought,
but now the snap from center, the new center came in,
I kind of got that what it shouldn't happen, But yeah,
kind of understand why it happened. But throwing interceptions, I
forget if his arm I forget the interception itself. But
there are times that's the quarterbacks. It's not his fault
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if he gets hitting the ball pops in the air
or something, but if he's making a poor decision. And
I don't think, Dave, get back to your score. I
don't think the score means anything. It doesn't know, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You're not more apt to excuse it or not get
as hot about it.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
No, I would really no, okay, okay, And I tried
not to get too hot on the field, you know,
at the time, because you want your quarterback to he
knows you know, so you just say something and he
sits down and you know so. But as far as
the score going, I expect him to play the way
he's supposed to play, regardless of the score.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Well, a couple of his turnovers this year had been goofy.
I mean he had one off of Titans helmet. Yeah,
that's right, ripsack when Abe Lucas got brutalized by Nick
Bosa and kind of didn't see him coming. So you know,
there's that in his corner. But then also like he
kind of likes to take a little chance of selling
in the middle of the field. How much do you
like his kind of gun slinging mentality.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Well, I think it's working really well for them now. Yeah,
but look at some of the some of the teams,
even the team last week Arizona. I don't know what's
happened to them. I have no idea what's happened to them.
They're not very good and so, but give it to
the Seahawks credit. They established it, they went after him,
they destroyed them. But now this week mistakes like that. Sure,
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you can't have it against I don't think against the team.
We're in a championship type game, you know. But it
doesn't worry me to honestly, I think he's having a
great year. Yeah, and he's he's doing you think the
other way. I used to, you know, brag on Gino
Smith when he was here, and he's throwing a lot
of there he's you know, it's not working for him there. So,
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but we Donald's good and uh, he can fix a
couple of things. And you're right, he does like to
take a shot now and then, but some and sometimes
it works well.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Is there anything to the idea that you learned a
lesson and it didn't hurt yet, and now he's less
apt to do that this Sunday because it happened last
Sunday and it didn't hurt you. It took place at
a point in time of the game where the game
was pretty much already over. I mean, is this maybe
a silver lining. I'm just trying to think of a
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silver lining here, Mike, that maybe Sam Donald is less
likely to make those types of mistakes because he made
him last Sunday against the Cardins.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I think you hope that is the way it is
with all your quarterbacks, right, that they learn from a mistake. Again,
not not the fumblest snap necessarily, but the or the
ball off the tight ends hat. But the thing is
a poor decision, throwing the ball across the throwing it
late over the middle, throwing it, you know, taking a
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chance and squeezing it in there. You gotta Yeah, it
doesn't matter what kind of game, you got to learn
from that. Unfortunately they won. Yeah, so you learn from
that and it helps you down the road.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I think the Seahawks are a very good team. I
think they're one of the top five six Super Bowl
contenders out there, But I've also seen who they've played
and who they've beaten, and it's not exactly Murderer's row.
So how concerned should Hawks fans be that they really
haven't beaten a good team yet? The two good teams
they played the lost in Bolt, Tampa Bay and San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, I'm kind of feeling that way a little myself,
except for the fact that when I watch their defense
get cranked up, even with guys like Love Hurt and
substitutes in there, they're really an impressive defensive team to me.
And then if they can get their offense going and
(11:53):
Jigma's unbelievable having a great year, we'll find out a
lot this weekend, I think. Yeah, at least for those
of us that feel like you like I feel like
you do. Yeah, you know, okay, they beat this team,
they beat the Washington when they didn't have any but
you know it. Now, let's see what happens this week.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, I want to go back to JSM for a second.
Mike Mike Homegrin's with us. Kathy holmgrens here as well,
so thanks to her for coming out. She's doing her
crossword puzzles over here. That's what really matters, by the way,
is the brainbusters mane.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You keeps you focused.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
But Jackson Smith and Jigba in the first quarter, guys
four catches on four targets for eighty two yards and
a touchdown. And I keep waiting for some defense to
slow him down. I keep waiting to see something different.
I keep waiting to see somebody honestly knock him in
the mouth at the line of scrimmage. Nobody's doing it.
What you did to Steve Smith against Carolina, for example,
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right twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Why why is that happening?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Why why your defense is not able to even remotely
take this guy away?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I don't know. That's that's a twenty four thousand dollars
sixty four thousand dollars question. Yeah, the uh you know
because I've said that too, and I said it on
the air, and I've talked to you guys about it.
That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I would what would you do if you were playing
against Jackson Smith and Jake But what would you do
to take him away?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I would tell the defensive coordinator, like I did with
Steve Smith that time. I'm not going to tell you
what defense is to run and all that. But I
will tell you this, and I did it with the
forty nine ers when I was in Green Bay because
I knew those guys. What would bother Jerry Rice, what
would bother Brent Jones? I said, I want him hit
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every play on the line of scrimmage, on the line
line of scrimmage for he gets over right, well that's
out or I don't know. I'm not telling you what
to call, but if I look out there and he's
not hit, I'll be upset. Yeah, you know, just what
it does is disrupt Now all the rest of his
you know, the pressure on the quarterback, all the rest
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of the stuff has to work. But it makes no
sense to allow him to get a free release and
get going. Because he's smart, he's fast, he's good, good
from inside outside. He's just really a good player. And
he's right now he is there passing offense the guy
they go to. So if I'm playing them, I mean,
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it makes sense to me. I don't know why people
haven't done it more.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well, maybe he is just that good, because you've seen
wide receivers that are just that good before Lake. I mean,
I know you didn't coordinate the forty nine ers defense. No,
but you had really good defensive players on that team,
and Micha Lavin still went Nutso yeah, so maybe JSN
is just that good.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's part of it. But I also
want to see. I'm gonna be watching just to see.
I don't study the films like you does. You might
know this, nobody does you know in the world? Right?
How many times? How many times he gets a free
release as an example?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Sure? On those four plays? Yeah for eighty r Right,
how what was it? Did he just get off the
last scrimmage and find the open area?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It just boggles the mind.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And maybe I'm speaking at a turn here, Mike, and
again Mike Homgrian's with us from the five point twenty
bar and grill if you're tuning in right now. We
are also awaiting of the announcement of the American League
and National League MVP. Will Kyle Rawley's name be called?
It could happen any moment, by the way, so keep
it right here to ninety three to three kg IRFM.
It just boggles my mind that he keeps doing this,
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and I don't know, Maybe I don't know what the
hell I'm talking about, which is probably possible or true
that it would seem like it'd be almost an easy
thing to do. Let somebody else be the guy. Let
Cooper Cup be the guy. Let Shihed be the guy.
Let Tory Horton be the guy. Let's double team this guy.
Let's bracket him. Let's, you know, take our couple of
yards off the line of scrimmage and press him hard,
get it to get a you know, a freaking elbow
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right in his chest, pop in the face, whatever. And
it seems like it wouldn't be this difficult for teams
to take away a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Am I am I crazy?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
No, I think when you get the really good ones,
you have to try and do that. And to Dick's point,
they still will catch their passes, but you've disrupted the timing.
You've you've you kind of to the quarterback size. He
looks out there, and if he's if he's gonna go
there and he's been bumped around and stuff, then he's
got to go to the second reader, the third reader, whatever, right,
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and and that if it's Darnold has been doing that,
throw the cup you got They have people that can
catch the ball and shut in the tight end. Sure, so, uh,
but we'll see that. I'm pretty sure we're going to
see it this weekend.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
And then on the other side of the ball, Matthew
Stafford went from just kind of a getting numbers guy
in Detroit and losing a lot of games to a
lock Hall of Famer, right, I mean winning championships and
being unbelievable with what impresses you the most? And why
has it changed so much for Stafford over the last
five or six years.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Well, I think it's going to that team. I think
the head coach there is very bright and an offensive guy.
And uh, and then he's got teammates too that Hell,
I'm thinking Detroit. He's still he's still put up good numbers,
but he also got hit a lot, right, you know,
he had some injury things there. But I was so
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impressed with him when he was in Detroit for going
through what he had to go through. Now he's got
people around him. He doesn't have to do it all
by himself. And you're right, he's he's shooting lights out.
And what is he forty years old?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
He's thirty thirty seven thirty seven, Yeah, which is weird, right,
seems like he's older yeah, I would have thought the
coach is totally almost dead on.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I mean he's he was seventy four ninety and one
in Detroit and now he's forty one and twenty five
with the Rams, which makes his career record one hundred
and fifteen one hundred and fifteen and one. He is
exactly a five hundred quarterback. Yet, as Dick said, he's
a Hall of famer. Yeah right, I mean, like we
look at quarterback. I don't know how much you look
at quarterback record as a starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But it's not Matt Stafford's fault. He's a five hundred quarterback.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
No, right, not at all, not at all. And the
fact he's played and started for so long. Yes, it's
not like all of a sudden someone's substituting and you
know he's lost it and you've got to go a
different direction. Yeah, he's been the guy, right right, So yeah,
he's he's and us in both quarterbacks listen in this
game Sunday.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Yeah, that'll decide it. Yeah, yeah, those two guys, Well
we'll talk a lot about that. We also may have
a big time award going to a big time player.
We could be twenty minutes away, guys, or so from
finding out if cal Rawley is going to win the
American League MVP. You're not going anywhere, all right. We're
gonna stay here, obviously and talk about it. We're gonna
quick break the announcement of the American League MVP minutes away.
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We'll have it for you live right here on ninety
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Speaker 2 (19:05):
Back of the five twenty, Bar and Grill and Mike
Homberan's here with us, and you were talking at least.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I think Kathy brought it up.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Reminded you that when Steve Young was in the finalist
for the Heisman Trophy at BYU, you were kind of nervous.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Right, Yeah, I was coaching pulling him, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm nervous now, man, naughty, naughty
ll naughty coll I get nervous. Man.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
We could be thirty seconds away, a minute away, five
minutes away, an hour away from fighting out of cal
Rawley's won the MVP.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Wouldn't that be something that would be unbelievable?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, I mean I remember being I was on the
air in two thousand and one, I think with sand
Meyer when Eachiro won the MVP, and Dick you mentioned
it earlier that you know now that it's been a
couple of weeks since the season ended right for the Mariners,
that maybe some of the buzz is gone whatever I remember.
I think I remember twenty five years ago, twenty four
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years ago that buzz came back pretty freaking fast when
they announced that each Row had won the MVP. Yeah,
And I wonder if we'll feel like I think we
probably will.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I think it'll kind of be a jolt because we
went through such a disappointing end to what was an
unbelievable run in October, right, And honestly, I have just
forgotten about it over the last three weeks since the
season has been over. But interesting if cal Rawley wins, yeah,
then yeah, I think I'll be juiced up and it'll
be well deserved.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Are you talking about the third Mariner ever that would
win the award? Each Row?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And oh one Griffy in nineteen ninety seven, So for
a generation of fans who are in their early thirties
or whatever it. They don't have any idea what a
guy like this winning the MVP is man. So I'm
excited for this. We're pulling for him big time. I
don't have any clue what's gonna happen. I kind of predicted,
I guess if that even means anything. In September, I
thought he was gonna win it, So I guess I'll
(20:43):
stick with that. Nothing can surprise anybody here. So we're
waiting on that. We're waiting on the MLB network. As
soon as we know, you will know who has won
the American League MVP. I will say this shocking developments
stunner show. Hey TONI just won the MVP the American League,
his fourth MVP overall. He becomes I believe, the second
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player ever to win an MVP in his first two
years with a new team after playing for somebody else.
Roger Marris came over from Kansas City to the Yankees
in nineteen sixty and he won the MVP and again
in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
So some rare air for show.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Hey O, Toddy, I did read though back in the
day that you could not win back to back MVPs
in your league. So Babe Ruth kind of got.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
The correct Oh, that's exactly it.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
So it's like some of these things that Showan is doing,
Babe Ruth didn't even have the opportunity today.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
They only allowed him to win it one time back
in the day.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Wow. Yeah, and then but then skip a year, then
he could win it the next year.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
No, he just can only win it once once.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
They actually changed that role, I think, like in the
late thirties when Babe was towards the end of his career.
But Dick's exactly right when they started the MVP process.
You can only win it one time, and so he
got robbed.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Let's state that role to make sure. Yeah, there you
go exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
You guys, remember when when I was playing in college,
you play, don't think they could repeat if they won
the Big Ten Championship, went to the Road Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
That's correct.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
The next year, that's correct, they couldn't go again they won.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Remember that used to be a tiebreaker if you're a
tiebreaker in the last time ten, whoever went last was
the team that got screwed?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, what kind of nonsense is that?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, Mike Congrin's with us and uh, Mike, let's uh,
let's talk about this game again coming up on Sunday
as we wait for this official announcement from the MLB network.
I'm sorry, I'm like, uh, God, who's the guy I
just said his name the other day? The guy with
the eyes that was in the Monty Python movies way
back in the day. You know, the guy I'm talking
about with the big eyes. You know the actor. Somebody
(22:41):
knows who I'm talking about. I've said his name on
the show a million times, and I forgot who was
Marty Feldman.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Oh okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I'm like Marty Feldman. I got one eye on Mike.
I got one eye on the TV over here. So
we're waiting to see you. Oh there he is, Yeah,
there he is right there. They're actually interviewing Judge and
Cal as we speak. But this game on Sunday, right,
you said it's gonna come down to who has a
better game at quarterback?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Okay, Well, I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
It sounds like kind of a cop ount to say
something like that, because it's the most important position in sports.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
But there's a reason why you believe like that. For
this game. Why is that?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, Well, because so far those are the guys that
are carrying their team this to this point. Okay, and
you know Donold is just establishing himself here. Stafford has
already there. Uh Now, now that's not to say that
we don't have you know, Walker's good. They have a
good running back for the Rams. The defenses are good,
the teams are good. But I think you know, in
(23:35):
referencing your turnover stuff, right, that stat, that one stat
could be the determining factor in the game.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Well, coach, they're running this three tight end set. Now
that they ran only one snap of the first five
games of the season, the last three games of the season,
they've done it forty of all snaps. Right, Have you
ever shifted your offensive philosophy and your formations that drastically
over the in the middle of the season.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
No, The only time, the only other time I can
remember doing that was in Seattle and we played the
Giants and I went most of the game with four
wide receivers and no one we had never done that,
and that and that that was good for us, that
that worked. But no, typically, no, you don't cheat change.
That's a draft, You're that's a drastic change. Yeah, what's
(24:24):
happened there, and.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
It's working it. Stefford's got eight touchdown passes out of
that set in the last three games.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well, he's also got seventeen touchdowns in one pick when
he's blitzed at a passer rating of one hundred and
twenty seven and the completion percentage of sixty seven percent.
Can you talk a little bit about great quarterbacks against
the blitz and why they're great against the blitz?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Well, because, okay, a couple of things. One, they know
their protections and they know where the problem is most
of the time. How many times have we seen in
the last few weeks that some guy come clean as
a whistle. It happened last week against Arizona linebackers come clean, right.
That doesn't Well, that won't happen too much with the
Rams because he'll he'll set up the protection and they'll
do that. It helps with the offensive line. Then he
(25:07):
knows that's the problem, that's my hot throw and I'm
not gonna take the sack right right, And that comes
with experience, it comes with trust, all that kind.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Of Yeah, guys, let's do this. I think we are
literally minutes away. I got a feeling that MLB network
is going to take a break here in just a second.
Andrews back in the studio. Let's got to break right now,
and if it happens during the break, we will break
in live. We'll cut off whatever client's paying millions of
dollars to advertise on the station, and we will give
you the MVP. Will it be Aaron Judge or will
(25:38):
it be Cal Rowley? Keep it right here, the announcement
coming in literal seconds right here on ninety three three
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Speaker 1 (25:49):
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Speaker 4 (26:00):
kJ r F.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Same plan we had before.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
All right, I assume this is on the air, by
the way, when I hear from Anders out of there
you go. All right, Well, we are here at the
five forty Bar and Grill, Mike Homgrin with us and
a little bit distracted right now because we are awaiting
the announcement of the American League MVP show. Heyotani has
already won the National League MVP, fourth MVP overall for him,
(26:30):
so no surprise there. But I don't know, man, I mean,
this is the anticipations killing me.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I can tell you. I'm surprised. Yes, I cared that much.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Hey, No, it's not because I had a win ticket
place back in April and.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm winning the m v P on one hundred dollars.
I'm kidding. If that was the case, I'd be flipping out.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
First of all, that was the case, I would have
had it, you'd be done already.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
What were the original ots like plus ten.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Thousands now beginning to begin year?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Because Anders and I He'll tell you, right, Anders, we
jumped on Julio to win the NBAP.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
We got the wrong guy to five.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Yeah, it must have been one hundred to one.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Easy beginning easy to win the MVP.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I mean this is gonna be one of the biggest
long shots at the start of the year.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yes, don't you think to win the ever had.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
More than thirty home runs in a season like cal
Rawly was thought of at the beginning of this year.
It's maybe not even the best hitter on his team,
let alone the best hitter in the league.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Right, well, it's buying a lottery ticket though, Yeah, you know,
I mean because the odds. Unbelievable. What what he did
this season, that's right, is unbelievable. Right, you know?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Did I ever tell you about my ticket I had
on your five Seahawks team, every telling you about that
start of the year. I put one hundred dollars on
the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl at thirty to
one odds. Wow, if you would have beat the Steelers,
I would have taken home three thousand dollars, which back
in two thousand and five was a lot of money
for a little schmuck like me. It's there was a
lot of money. What I should have done is I
should have hedged it. I should have bet fifteen hundred
(27:59):
on Cower just in case he won, and that way
I would have turned one hundred bucks into at least
fifteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
But I didn't. I thought we were gonna win, and
I kept it and I rolled with you. So you
won me three thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Well, I'm glad you brought up that Super Bowl. It's yeah,
really nice of you to.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Change the subject a little bit on.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Roy. Can we there Goah?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I tell you I saw something that I've never seen
before in the NFL this week and I'll explain to
you if you if you didn't see it. So end
of the first half, it's Patriots and Bucks, and the
Patriots are at the two yard line. The Bucks don't
have any timeouts left, all right. Mike Vrabel on first
down purposely has his quarterback just go down and not
try to score, and wasts it down to get the
(28:42):
clock all the way down so he could run second, third,
and eventually fourth down, and got the touchdown on fourth
down with like five seconds left to go in the
first half. My question, you would you ever purposely in
a situation like that not try to score.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
No, No, I think because they got it on fourth down.
They got it on fourth down. I went all the
way to fourth Oh yeah, no, you know, you get
down there. It's hard to get down there, you know,
get in, get in the end zone, and I'll deal
with the other twenty seconds somehow, some way, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Oh, Or how much time was left.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
When he started to do it. There was like a
minute fifteen, okay, and he just milked it down to forty,
and then he milked it down to twenty, and then
he milked it down to five, and then they scored
the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
What do you think of the coaching matchup Sunday, because
I think that's the battle is McDonald versus Sean McVeigh.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, you get two young guys who are smart their
team there. I'm very impressed. I have been with Sean,
talked to him a little bit right and but Mike, uh,
you know, and talked to him before the season started
for a while. They've got their teams going. They they
in a different with a different emphasis. You know, one's
(29:53):
on offensive guy, one's a defensive guy. But as head coaches, yes,
they both call the defen they call the offense. So
they're still doing that right instead of kicking it to somebody.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
And Softie mentioned this week about kind of the defense
maybe in a matchup like this having the advantage over
the offensive coaches that now that might be blasphemy to you,
the offensive coach.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Not for you though for others, but not for you.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
But I mean, what would your would you rather have
the offensive guru to match up like this is the
defensive guru?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
You know what? I think? I think I'm not sure
that will enter into it too much. Honestly, It's like
I have a plan, he has a plan. How your
players handle the blitz, how they handle out? The quarterbacks
handle pressure? Uh? Can you get to the quarterback? Does
the running game play a big part? And for either team,
(30:44):
like you said, three tight end offense, you know, and
their their back's pretty good. Yeah for the Rams.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, what is it about McVeigh because he's not even forty,
he's forty in January and he's in his ninth year
already in the NFL. He was thirty one, Yeah when
he got hired with the Rams. So I think you
knew his dad, right, Sew mcfay's dad, Yeah, correct know
his grandfather, grandfather.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Sorry, what is it about Sean McVeigh?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
This is the guy that is Dick said your day
was maybe gonna quit a couple of years ago and
just retire. I thought when Stafford went, he'd go to
and I thought Stafford was done a couple of years ago,
when I was wrong. But what is it about this kid?
He's still a kid. He's thirteen younger than me. That
is so unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Well, first of all, he's you watch him on the sideline. Yeah,
and he and he you know, not just because he
has more hair than me, but he has spiked up
and run. He's running around and he is he's wired
that way. He is really intense. He wishes he could
be playing. And so you couple that with how smart
he is, and you know, he comes from a great,
(31:46):
great pedigree of football, and the players, his players love him.
They play for him, you know. And I don't think
you can understate that. I think that's really they listened
to him, you know, and and I you know, he's
an impressive guy and I've really fun to talk to.
I interviewed him at the Super Bowl. Oh yeah, yeah,
and kind of a humble guy, you know, for all
(32:06):
his accomplished My agent is his agent. Okay, you know,
so I should I should phone him and yeah, Borrows
and Andy too. Reed, he's got them all. I should
phone him and get a little money from him.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Well, and then coach, there's this third team in the
division that still thinks they're competing for the division championship
and the Niners, and it looks like they're going back
to brock Purty after mac Jones went five and three.
Very similar numbers. If you look at Max's numbers compared
to Dak Mayfield Mahomes, they're all about the same over
(32:41):
the last eight games. I mean, is it just a
no brainer to go back to who your starter was
because brock Perty wouldn't five and three in his last
eight games that he coch that he pitched.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, but you know, they he signed that big contract
in the offseason, so they told him you're the guy,
and we hope you're the guy for a long time.
And now he's healthy again, surprisingly they put him back in. Now.
Jones did a really good job, I think, coupled with
what they do to Shanhan smart and he knows how
to coach quarterbacks. But they've been hurt. They're kind of hurt.
(33:12):
So I put them just a notch below the Hawks
right now and the Rams.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Well, Mike Home grins with us, and I will tell
you that the MLB network just went to a commercial break,
so we are awaiting the announcement of the American League MVP.
I'm sitting over here, I'm sweating, my heart's palpitating.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
My foot pressures through the roof.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, I just I'm more concerned about us actually being
on the air when it happens. I don't want to
blow it right. I want to make sure we're on
the air and get the announcements. So we're not gonna
go anywhere. We're gonna keep it right here. There'll be
no commercial breaks, not at my watch, not up in
here until we find out if the MVP is going
to col But we are literally seconds away, guys, from
finding out if Cayl Rowley has beaten thereon judge for
(33:53):
the American League MVP. But Mike, let me ask you this.
We mentioned Stafford against the Blitz. Darnold against the Blitz,
by the way, is not very good. He's got four touchdowns,
four picks, sixty one point three percent.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Uh ninety three passer rating, which is not terrible.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
But if not one hundred and twenty six with no Blitz,
he's got a passer rating of one hundred and twenty eight.
So does McVeigh see that, talk to his defensive coordinators
and say the numbers say he's not good against the Blitz,
go after him.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Is it that easy?
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Noell, it's that's gonna be a big part of their plan.
Then if because you know, you get to we have
talked about this before, you get the little analytics people
in the upper room with the glasses.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
You know, wait, you got glasses.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
See yeah, but minor not the dark rims around.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Gotcha.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
He does not beat little eyes.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
So but they they give feed all the information and
that's part of your preparation. Yeah, and they know that
and so and then the Rams, I think they have
pretty good pass rush tendencies.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Coach, they're doing something this year that you used to
be really good at, scoring touchdowns on the first drive
of the game. They did it zero times under Ryan
Grubb last year, not once. They've done it four times
already this season. What are you seeing in their opening
drives that are impressing you?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Well, I think they which I hope they would do.
They come out passing the ball a little bit more
in the opening drive, play action, pass, getting first downs,
getting short you know, second and two, you know, and
allows them to sustain the drive and h no, I
think you know what, look at I learned. I did that.
(35:27):
I copied Bill Walsh my first fifteen and all that, right.
Mike Shanahan followed me in San Francisco. He did the
same thing. Okay, Gary Kubiak worked for Mike. He did
the same thing. Now his son is doing the same
thing right now. So it's just something that I think
is really good thing to do in your preparation. Yeah.
(35:48):
Billy always said takes the emotion out of it for you,
you know.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, guys, I got some bad news.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Oh she was.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Aaron Judge has won the American League MVP. Just came down,
just announced on the MLB network. I was really really
hoping to be able to go on the air and
scream out that cal Raley has won the American League MVP.
But Aaron Judge at home surrounded by family and friends,
Aaron Judge getting seventeen first place votes, KYL Raley getting
(36:16):
thirteen first close votes, thirteen second for Aaron Judge, seventeen
second for cal Rally.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
So they basically just flipped right.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Aaron Judge beats out cal Rawley in a very very
close vote. Aaron Judge, guys, is your twenty twenty five
American League MVP.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Well two voters difference, And I thought we may have
an opportunity to have a tie MVP. They have had
that before, but it's been a long long time. You
could have had a tie. But you know, like I
said yesterday, I'm I'm not gonna change my take. If
you think Aaron Judge should have been the MVP. You're
right if you think if you think cal Rawley should
have been the MVP, you're also right. Unfortunately, there were
(36:56):
two deserving MVP candidates in the American League this season.
Unfortunately for Cal, it just happened to be.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
That year for Well, here's the thing, and we said
this yesterday on the air that I wasn't gonna lose
my mind if cal Rawley did not win the MVP.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And I'm not going to. I'm just disappointed, right, you know.
I mean, you're a fan, you love these guys. I'm
disappointed for Cal. I think he deserved it. I think
he's earned it. I think he's a phenomenal leader.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
My moment with Cal was two years ago when he
basically called out the ownership group for not making the
team good enough to make the playoffs. And that was
a guy that was still kind of green right in
this league, and Scott Servis actually called him out, told
him to control his emotions. And I know you're a
fan of Scott because of his packer ties and all that,
but that's the day that I kind of was a
little bit down on Scott. I could not believe that
(37:40):
his manager would come out and not have his back
for showing that kind of emotion, especially for a former catcher.
But I mean, look, guys, Aaron Judge had an OPS
two hundred points higher than cal Raley did. He had
a batting average eighty four points higher than cal Raley did,
and he had what is it, thirty five extra hits
in seven less games than cal Riley. He is a
much better all around hitter than Cal. I thought there'd
(38:02):
be a little bit of Yankee fatigue. I thought the
defense would maybe put him over the top, and it
didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
So I'm not I'm not angry about it. I'm not
shocked by this at all.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I'm just bummed for cal because he's a great guy
and I hope he does have a chance to win
one down the road.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Well, to what Dick said, it's a two votes, right,
and when it's close, when it's close, it even hurts
a little more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he he almost
got it.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, looks like the games that you lost, the big
games they get lost that were tight.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Would you rather just got your ass kipt yea honestly?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Sometimes, yeah, those are the ones you lose, the tight ones.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Yeah, what's unfortunate though, is that Cal hit sixty home
runs and didn't win it. Right to a guy that's
probably going to do what he did this year again
next year, because that's how good Aaron judges. This, in
my opinion, was Cal shot.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
This was his will it take? If this isn't enough,
what will it take?
Speaker 5 (38:55):
It will take close to that, and then Judge and
the rest of the league comes down to earth. You
had an elite err in Judge this year. If you
just had a good errand Judge, Cal would have won it.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Hey, good stuff, Thanks for Baron with all right, no, no,
no direct I apologize for that. Yeah, can you bring
her buy more often?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
By the way, I will she classes the place up,
you know, I'll ask her, Yeah, come buy more office.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
She needs I need a chauffeur.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
She needs to drive it absolutely and bring some food
home with you for God's sakes.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
From the five twenty bar and grill.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
All right, great stuff and we're talking a week right,
but all right, Mike Hongrin with us again, breaking news.
Aaron Judge has won the American League MVP Cal Riley
finishing seconds. We're gonna break a lot more to come,
including David Samson. Good night to have him on, he'll
tell us if the voter's made the right choice at
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The medical world. She can do whatever she wants, but
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I just took a picture of you guys, by the way,
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By the way, What about.
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Mike, Homgrin, Kathy home Grin with us here and again, Mike,
we're gonna know probably in the hour. We're we're hoping
by five o'clock if cal Rawley has won the American
League MVP. And I mean, you've been in situations like
this before with your players where they're waiting to get
honors when the season comes to an end. What is
this like for a coach when when your top dog,
(03:32):
when your guy is sitting there on edge waiting to
see if he's won a big time award.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, you're really pulling for him. First of all, you
know what he did, and and you know if I
was his manager's coach or something, and what he did remarkable,
Kick and I were telling you know is a catcher
first of all, bats both ways, and and just home
runs and leadership and all the stuff he did to
get the Mariners as far as they got. I don't
(04:00):
know how they can't give it to him. And as
a coach hoping for a player like far have wanted
a couple of times Montana, you know, I have guys
that would win it, and you're just pulling for him
because you know how much they sacrifice what they did
for the team.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
And you have some control over whether guys win MVPs.
Baseball managers don't. They just throw guys out there and
they get their numbers. But you actually have control. You
helped Seawan Alexander right get the MVP award. How much
did that play into your thought process?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Well, during the season and during games, it doesn't play
in it at all, I'll be honest with you. But
as it gets near the end and the dust settles
and now there's going to be a voting in a
week or something. Now now you're pushing and you're talking
to people and you're trying to help him if you can.
But yeah, it's a special award, no question about it.
(04:49):
And think of it all the guys. Think of how
much one guy out of the total group gets it right,
and so that's something special.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, some coaches have little bonus is in their contract
when their guys win awards like this.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Did you ever forget a little bumped? Did you get
a bump when Sean won?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Huh? I should have?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I didn't. Absolutely I didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Maybe you go back retroactively to the Hawks, go go
call Chuck Arnold.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Sidio's a million dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
The only the bonus, the bonus thing I got. The
best bonus thing I got was in Green Bay and uh,
if we won ten eleven games or something like that,
he kicked in with a good chunk of money. We're
playing the Steelers, okay and Green Bay, and they're down there,
(05:34):
they're gonna drive for the winning touchdown. They throw a corner,
falls down, They throw a pass to the receiver in
the end zones all by himself. He drops the ball.
Remember who it was? I forget who? But cow are
we Yancey thick been?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Wow? How about that happened?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
So then, so then, but then I go up with
to shake Bill Cower's hand after the game, because we're friends.
Any I go, he goes nice going. I go, you
don't even know I'm hugging it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, Kathy may have been more excited about the bonus
than you work for.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
God six that's why she knew the name of the players.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Good for you, it's incredible. We'll pull Kathy coach a
big one this week. You know, we've had coaches here
in the past. Pete Carroll says every game is a
championship game. He never treated one more than the other.
Do you treat it at all differently when you're seven
to two and you're going to get the seven and
two team for first place this late in the season.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
You can say you don't, but you do?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
You do?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I mean, you know, the players know it. You might
talk to them a little bit. They know how important
it is. And I've told you guys before anytime when
I was coaching and I went against my old team,
right either Packers of the forty nine ers, there was
extra and the players knew that. They felt it from me.
They'd say, well, he's different this week, you know. And
(07:01):
I try not to be you try and say, okay, yeah,
it's an important game, but we have a lot of games.
But no, this is a big one and they know it,
and the coach is known.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, well, there's a lot to talk about with this
game on Sunday. There's no doubt. But let me let
me go back to the game of the Cardinals for
a second. Obviously, another slaughter by the Seahawks. Third time
this year they've really destroyed somebody. The second time in
the last two weeks. It is the second time, by
the way, in two weeks. They're playing a team on
a short week because the Commanders had that Monday night
game as well. But I want to talk to you
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about the turnovers. I want to talk to you about Sam
Darnold's turnovers that he had. And I'm looking at the
scores of the games when these turnovers took place. I
had them on my notes somewhere, Dick and I lost him.
The first pick was at thirty eight to seven, fumble
was at thirty five to eighteen. I think it was
thirty one to seven against the Commanders when Sam had
a pick. Do those bother you when you're seeing a
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turnover and a mistake like that in a game that's
already over.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It always bothers me when you turn It always bothered
me when they turn the ball over. If I thought,
but now the snap from center, the new center came in,
I kind of got that what it shouldn't happen, But yeah,
kind of understand why it happened. But throwing interceptions, I
forget if his arm I forget the interception itself. But
there are times that's the quarterbacks. It's not his fault
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if he gets hitting the ball pops in the air
or something, but if he's making a poor decision. And
I don't think, Dave, get back to your score. I
don't think the score means anything. It doesn't know, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You're not more apt to excuse it or not get
as hot about it.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
No, I would really no, okay, okay, And I tried
not to get too hot on the field, you know,
at the time, because you want your quarterback to he
knows you know, so you just say something and he
sits down and you know so. But as far as
the score going, I expect him to play the way
he's supposed to play, regardless of the score.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Well, a couple of his turnovers this year had been goofy.
I mean he had one off of Titans helmet. Yeah,
that's right, ripsack when Abe Lucas got brutalized by Nick
Bosa and kind of didn't see him coming. So you know,
there's that in his corner. But then also like he
kind of likes to take a little chance of selling
in the middle of the field. How much do you
like his kind of gun slinging mentality.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Well, I think it's working really well for them now. Yeah,
but look at some of the some of the teams,
even the team last week Arizona. I don't know what's
happened to them. I have no idea what's happened to them.
They're not very good and so, but give it to
the Seahawks credit. They established it, they went after him,
they destroyed them. But now this week mistakes like that. Sure,
(09:40):
you can't have it against I don't think against the team.
We're in a championship type game, you know. But it
doesn't worry me to honestly, I think he's having a
great year. Yeah, and he's he's doing you think the
other way. I used to, you know, brag on Gino
Smith when he was here, and he's throwing a lot
of there he's you know, it's not working for him there. So,
(10:02):
but we Donald's good and uh, he can fix a
couple of things. And you're right, he does like to
take a shot now and then, but some and sometimes
it works well.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Is there anything to the idea that you learned a
lesson and it didn't hurt yet, and now he's less
apt to do that this Sunday because it happened last
Sunday and it didn't hurt you. It took place at
a point in time of the game where the game
was pretty much already over. I mean, is this maybe
a silver lining. I'm just trying to think of a
(10:34):
silver lining here, Mike, that maybe Sam Donald is less
likely to make those types of mistakes because he made
him last Sunday against the Cardins.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I think you hope that is the way it is
with all your quarterbacks, right, that they learn from a mistake. Again,
not not the fumblest snap necessarily, but the or the
ball off the tight ends hat. But the thing is
a poor decision, throwing the ball across the throwing it
late over the middle, throwing it, you know, taking a
(11:03):
chance and squeezing it in there. You gotta Yeah, it
doesn't matter what kind of game, you got to learn
from that. Unfortunately they won. Yeah, so you learn from
that and it helps you down the road.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I think the Seahawks are a very good team. I
think they're one of the top five six Super Bowl
contenders out there, But I've also seen who they've played
and who they've beaten, and it's not exactly Murderer's row.
So how concerned should Hawks fans be that they really
haven't beaten a good team yet? The two good teams
they played the lost in Bolt, Tampa Bay and San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, I'm kind of feeling that way a little myself,
except for the fact that when I watch their defense
get cranked up, even with guys like Love Hurt and
substitutes in there, they're really an impressive defensive team to me.
And then if they can get their offense going and
(11:53):
Jigma's unbelievable having a great year, we'll find out a
lot this weekend, I think. Yeah, at least for those
of us that feel like you like I feel like
you do. Yeah, you know, okay, they beat this team,
they beat the Washington when they didn't have any but
you know it. Now, let's see what happens this week.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, I want to go back to JSM for a second.
Mike Mike Homegrin's with us. Kathy holmgrens here as well,
so thanks to her for coming out. She's doing her
crossword puzzles over here. That's what really matters, by the way,
is the brainbusters mane.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You keeps you focused.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
But Jackson Smith and Jigba in the first quarter, guys
four catches on four targets for eighty two yards and
a touchdown. And I keep waiting for some defense to
slow him down. I keep waiting to see something different.
I keep waiting to see somebody honestly knock him in
the mouth at the line of scrimmage. Nobody's doing it.
What you did to Steve Smith against Carolina, for example,
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right twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Why why is that happening?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Why why your defense is not able to even remotely
take this guy away?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I don't know. That's that's a twenty four thousand dollars
sixty four thousand dollars question. Yeah, the uh you know
because I've said that too, and I said it on
the air, and I've talked to you guys about it.
That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I would what would you do if you were playing
against Jackson Smith and Jake But what would you do
to take him away?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I would tell the defensive coordinator, like I did with
Steve Smith that time. I'm not going to tell you
what defense is to run and all that. But I
will tell you this, and I did it with the
forty nine ers when I was in Green Bay because
I knew those guys. What would bother Jerry Rice, what
would bother Brent Jones? I said, I want him hit
(13:36):
every play on the line of scrimmage, on the line
line of scrimmage for he gets over right, well that's
out or I don't know. I'm not telling you what
to call, but if I look out there and he's
not hit, I'll be upset. Yeah, you know, just what
it does is disrupt Now all the rest of his
you know, the pressure on the quarterback, all the rest
(13:57):
of the stuff has to work. But it makes no
sense to allow him to get a free release and
get going. Because he's smart, he's fast, he's good, good
from inside outside. He's just really a good player. And
he's right now he is there passing offense the guy
they go to. So if I'm playing them, I mean,
(14:20):
it makes sense to me. I don't know why people
haven't done it more.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well, maybe he is just that good, because you've seen
wide receivers that are just that good before Lake. I mean,
I know you didn't coordinate the forty nine ers defense. No,
but you had really good defensive players on that team,
and Micha Lavin still went Nutso yeah, so maybe JSN
is just that good.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's part of it. But I also
want to see. I'm gonna be watching just to see.
I don't study the films like you does. You might
know this, nobody does you know in the world? Right?
How many times? How many times he gets a free
release as an example?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Sure? On those four plays? Yeah for eighty r Right,
how what was it? Did he just get off the
last scrimmage and find the open area?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It just boggles the mind.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And maybe I'm speaking at a turn here, Mike, and
again Mike Homgrian's with us from the five point twenty
bar and grill if you're tuning in right now. We
are also awaiting of the announcement of the American League
and National League MVP. Will Kyle Rawley's name be called?
It could happen any moment, by the way, so keep
it right here to ninety three to three kg IRFM.
It just boggles my mind that he keeps doing this,
(15:26):
and I don't know, Maybe I don't know what the
hell I'm talking about, which is probably possible or true
that it would seem like it'd be almost an easy
thing to do. Let somebody else be the guy. Let
Cooper Cup be the guy. Let Shihed be the guy.
Let Tory Horton be the guy. Let's double team this guy.
Let's bracket him. Let's, you know, take our couple of
yards off the line of scrimmage and press him hard,
get it to get a you know, a freaking elbow
(15:48):
right in his chest, pop in the face, whatever. And
it seems like it wouldn't be this difficult for teams
to take away a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Am I am I crazy?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
No, I think when you get the really good ones,
you have to try and do that. And to Dick's point,
they still will catch their passes, but you've disrupted the timing.
You've you've you kind of to the quarterback size. He
looks out there, and if he's if he's gonna go
there and he's been bumped around and stuff, then he's
got to go to the second reader, the third reader, whatever, right,
(16:17):
and and that if it's Darnold has been doing that,
throw the cup you got They have people that can
catch the ball and shut in the tight end. Sure, so, uh,
but we'll see that. I'm pretty sure we're going to
see it this weekend.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
And then on the other side of the ball, Matthew
Stafford went from just kind of a getting numbers guy
in Detroit and losing a lot of games to a
lock Hall of Famer, right, I mean winning championships and
being unbelievable with what impresses you the most? And why
has it changed so much for Stafford over the last
five or six years.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Well, I think it's going to that team. I think
the head coach there is very bright and an offensive guy.
And uh, and then he's got teammates too that Hell,
I'm thinking Detroit. He's still he's still put up good numbers,
but he also got hit a lot, right, you know,
he had some injury things there. But I was so
(17:12):
impressed with him when he was in Detroit for going
through what he had to go through. Now he's got
people around him. He doesn't have to do it all
by himself. And you're right, he's he's shooting lights out.
And what is he forty years old?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
He's thirty thirty seven thirty seven, Yeah, which is weird, right,
seems like he's older yeah, I would have thought the
coach is totally almost dead on.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I mean he's he was seventy four ninety and one
in Detroit and now he's forty one and twenty five
with the Rams, which makes his career record one hundred
and fifteen one hundred and fifteen and one. He is
exactly a five hundred quarterback. Yet, as Dick said, he's
a Hall of famer. Yeah right, I mean, like we
look at quarterback. I don't know how much you look
at quarterback record as a starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But it's not Matt Stafford's fault. He's a five hundred quarterback.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
No, right, not at all, not at all. And the
fact he's played and started for so long. Yes, it's
not like all of a sudden someone's substituting and you
know he's lost it and you've got to go a
different direction. Yeah, he's been the guy, right right, So yeah,
he's he's and us in both quarterbacks listen in this
game Sunday.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Yeah, that'll decide it. Yeah, yeah, those two guys, Well
we'll talk a lot about that. We also may have
a big time award going to a big time player.
We could be twenty minutes away, guys, or so from
finding out if cal Rawley is going to win the
American League MVP. You're not going anywhere, all right. We're
gonna stay here, obviously and talk about it. We're gonna
quick break the announcement of the American League MVP minutes away.
(18:41):
We'll have it for you live right here on ninety
three to three KJRFM from the.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to
SOFTI and Dick on your Home for the Huskies, Kraken
and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point three
kJ r FM.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Back of the five twenty, Bar and Grill and Mike
Homberan's here with us, and you were talking at least.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I think Kathy brought it up.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Reminded you that when Steve Young was in the finalist
for the Heisman Trophy at BYU, you were kind of nervous.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Right, Yeah, I was coaching pulling him, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm nervous now, man, naughty, naughty
ll naughty coll I get nervous. Man.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
We could be thirty seconds away, a minute away, five
minutes away, an hour away from fighting out of cal
Rawley's won the MVP.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Wouldn't that be something that would be unbelievable?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, I mean I remember being I was on the
air in two thousand and one, I think with sand
Meyer when Eachiro won the MVP, and Dick you mentioned
it earlier that you know now that it's been a
couple of weeks since the season ended right for the Mariners,
that maybe some of the buzz is gone whatever I remember.
I think I remember twenty five years ago, twenty four
(19:52):
years ago that buzz came back pretty freaking fast when
they announced that each Row had won the MVP. Yeah,
And I wonder if we'll feel like I think we
probably will.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I think it'll kind of be a jolt because we
went through such a disappointing end to what was an
unbelievable run in October, right, And honestly, I have just
forgotten about it over the last three weeks since the
season has been over. But interesting if cal Rawley wins, yeah,
then yeah, I think I'll be juiced up and it'll
be well deserved.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Are you talking about the third Mariner ever that would
win the award? Each Row?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And oh one Griffy in nineteen ninety seven, So for
a generation of fans who are in their early thirties
or whatever it. They don't have any idea what a
guy like this winning the MVP is man. So I'm
excited for this. We're pulling for him big time. I
don't have any clue what's gonna happen. I kind of predicted,
I guess if that even means anything. In September, I
thought he was gonna win it, So I guess I'll
(20:43):
stick with that. Nothing can surprise anybody here. So we're
waiting on that. We're waiting on the MLB network. As
soon as we know, you will know who has won
the American League MVP. I will say this shocking developments
stunner show. Hey TONI just won the MVP the American League,
his fourth MVP overall. He becomes I believe, the second
(21:05):
player ever to win an MVP in his first two
years with a new team after playing for somebody else.
Roger Marris came over from Kansas City to the Yankees
in nineteen sixty and he won the MVP and again
in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
So some rare air for show.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Hey O, Toddy, I did read though back in the
day that you could not win back to back MVPs
in your league. So Babe Ruth kind of got.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
The correct Oh, that's exactly it.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
So it's like some of these things that Showan is doing,
Babe Ruth didn't even have the opportunity today.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
They only allowed him to win it one time back
in the day.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Wow. Yeah, and then but then skip a year, then
he could win it the next year.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
No, he just can only win it once once.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
They actually changed that role, I think, like in the
late thirties when Babe was towards the end of his career.
But Dick's exactly right when they started the MVP process.
You can only win it one time, and so he
got robbed.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Let's state that role to make sure. Yeah, there you
go exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
You guys, remember when when I was playing in college,
you play, don't think they could repeat if they won
the Big Ten Championship, went to the Road Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
That's correct.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
The next year, that's correct, they couldn't go again they won.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Remember that used to be a tiebreaker if you're a
tiebreaker in the last time ten, whoever went last was
the team that got screwed?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, what kind of nonsense is that?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, Mike Congrin's with us and uh, Mike, let's uh,
let's talk about this game again coming up on Sunday
as we wait for this official announcement from the MLB network.
I'm sorry, I'm like, uh, God, who's the guy I
just said his name the other day? The guy with
the eyes that was in the Monty Python movies way
back in the day. You know, the guy I'm talking
about with the big eyes. You know the actor. Somebody
(22:41):
knows who I'm talking about. I've said his name on
the show a million times, and I forgot who was
Marty Feldman.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Oh okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I'm like Marty Feldman. I got one eye on Mike.
I got one eye on the TV over here. So
we're waiting to see you. Oh there he is, Yeah,
there he is right there. They're actually interviewing Judge and
Cal as we speak. But this game on Sunday, right,
you said it's gonna come down to who has a
better game at quarterback?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Okay, Well, I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
It sounds like kind of a cop ount to say
something like that, because it's the most important position in sports.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
But there's a reason why you believe like that. For
this game. Why is that?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, Well, because so far those are the guys that
are carrying their team this to this point. Okay, and
you know Donold is just establishing himself here. Stafford has
already there. Uh Now, now that's not to say that
we don't have you know, Walker's good. They have a
good running back for the Rams. The defenses are good,
the teams are good. But I think you know, in
(23:35):
referencing your turnover stuff, right, that stat, that one stat
could be the determining factor in the game.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Well, coach, they're running this three tight end set. Now
that they ran only one snap of the first five
games of the season, the last three games of the season,
they've done it forty of all snaps. Right, Have you
ever shifted your offensive philosophy and your formations that drastically
over the in the middle of the season.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
No, The only time, the only other time I can
remember doing that was in Seattle and we played the
Giants and I went most of the game with four
wide receivers and no one we had never done that,
and that and that that was good for us, that
that worked. But no, typically, no, you don't cheat change.
That's a draft, You're that's a drastic change. Yeah, what's
(24:24):
happened there, and.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
It's working it. Stefford's got eight touchdown passes out of
that set in the last three games.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well, he's also got seventeen touchdowns in one pick when
he's blitzed at a passer rating of one hundred and
twenty seven and the completion percentage of sixty seven percent.
Can you talk a little bit about great quarterbacks against
the blitz and why they're great against the blitz?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Well, because, okay, a couple of things. One, they know
their protections and they know where the problem is most
of the time. How many times have we seen in
the last few weeks that some guy come clean as
a whistle. It happened last week against Arizona linebackers come clean, right.
That doesn't Well, that won't happen too much with the
Rams because he'll he'll set up the protection and they'll
do that. It helps with the offensive line. Then he
(25:07):
knows that's the problem, that's my hot throw and I'm
not gonna take the sack right right, And that comes
with experience, it comes with trust, all that kind.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Of Yeah, guys, let's do this. I think we are
literally minutes away. I got a feeling that MLB network
is going to take a break here in just a second.
Andrews back in the studio. Let's got to break right now,
and if it happens during the break, we will break
in live. We'll cut off whatever client's paying millions of
dollars to advertise on the station, and we will give
you the MVP. Will it be Aaron Judge or will
(25:38):
it be Cal Rowley? Keep it right here, the announcement
coming in literal seconds right here on ninety three three
KJRFM from.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
The R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back
to SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies,
Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three four three.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
kJ r F.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Same plan we had before.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
All right, I assume this is on the air, by
the way, when I hear from Anders out of there
you go. All right, Well, we are here at the
five forty Bar and Grill, Mike Homgrin with us and
a little bit distracted right now because we are awaiting
the announcement of the American League MVP show. Heyotani has
already won the National League MVP, fourth MVP overall for him,
(26:30):
so no surprise there. But I don't know, man, I mean,
this is the anticipations killing me.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I can tell you. I'm surprised. Yes, I cared that much.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Hey, No, it's not because I had a win ticket
place back in April and.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm winning the m v P on one hundred dollars.
I'm kidding. If that was the case, I'd be flipping out.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
First of all, that was the case, I would have
had it, you'd be done already.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
What were the original ots like plus ten.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Thousands now beginning to begin year?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Because Anders and I He'll tell you, right, Anders, we
jumped on Julio to win the NBAP.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
We got the wrong guy to five.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Yeah, it must have been one hundred to one.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Easy beginning easy to win the MVP.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I mean this is gonna be one of the biggest
long shots at the start of the year.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yes, don't you think to win the ever had.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
More than thirty home runs in a season like cal
Rawly was thought of at the beginning of this year.
It's maybe not even the best hitter on his team,
let alone the best hitter in the league.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Right, well, it's buying a lottery ticket though, Yeah, you know,
I mean because the odds. Unbelievable. What what he did
this season, that's right, is unbelievable. Right, you know?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Did I ever tell you about my ticket I had
on your five Seahawks team, every telling you about that
start of the year. I put one hundred dollars on
the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl at thirty to
one odds. Wow, if you would have beat the Steelers,
I would have taken home three thousand dollars, which back
in two thousand and five was a lot of money
for a little schmuck like me. It's there was a
lot of money. What I should have done is I
should have hedged it. I should have bet fifteen hundred
(27:59):
on Cower just in case he won, and that way
I would have turned one hundred bucks into at least
fifteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
But I didn't. I thought we were gonna win, and
I kept it and I rolled with you. So you
won me three thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Well, I'm glad you brought up that Super Bowl. It's yeah,
really nice of you to.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Change the subject a little bit on.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Roy. Can we there Goah?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I tell you I saw something that I've never seen
before in the NFL this week and I'll explain to
you if you if you didn't see it. So end
of the first half, it's Patriots and Bucks, and the
Patriots are at the two yard line. The Bucks don't
have any timeouts left, all right. Mike Vrabel on first
down purposely has his quarterback just go down and not
try to score, and wasts it down to get the
(28:42):
clock all the way down so he could run second, third,
and eventually fourth down, and got the touchdown on fourth
down with like five seconds left to go in the
first half. My question, you would you ever purposely in
a situation like that not try to score.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
No, No, I think because they got it on fourth down.
They got it on fourth down. I went all the
way to fourth Oh yeah, no, you know, you get
down there. It's hard to get down there, you know,
get in, get in the end zone, and I'll deal
with the other twenty seconds somehow, some way, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Oh, Or how much time was left.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
When he started to do it. There was like a
minute fifteen, okay, and he just milked it down to forty,
and then he milked it down to twenty, and then
he milked it down to five, and then they scored
the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
What do you think of the coaching matchup Sunday, because
I think that's the battle is McDonald versus Sean McVeigh.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, you get two young guys who are smart their
team there. I'm very impressed. I have been with Sean,
talked to him a little bit right and but Mike, uh,
you know, and talked to him before the season started
for a while. They've got their teams going. They they
in a different with a different emphasis. You know, one's
(29:53):
on offensive guy, one's a defensive guy. But as head coaches, yes,
they both call the defen they call the offense. So
they're still doing that right instead of kicking it to somebody.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
And Softie mentioned this week about kind of the defense
maybe in a matchup like this having the advantage over
the offensive coaches that now that might be blasphemy to you,
the offensive coach.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Not for you though for others, but not for you.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
But I mean, what would your would you rather have
the offensive guru to match up like this is the
defensive guru?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
You know what? I think? I think I'm not sure
that will enter into it too much. Honestly, It's like
I have a plan, he has a plan. How your
players handle the blitz, how they handle out? The quarterbacks
handle pressure? Uh? Can you get to the quarterback? Does
the running game play a big part? And for either team,
(30:44):
like you said, three tight end offense, you know, and
their their back's pretty good. Yeah for the Rams.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, what is it about McVeigh because he's not even forty,
he's forty in January and he's in his ninth year
already in the NFL. He was thirty one, Yeah when
he got hired with the Rams. So I think you
knew his dad, right, Sew mcfay's dad, Yeah, correct know
his grandfather, grandfather.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Sorry, what is it about Sean McVeigh?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
This is the guy that is Dick said your day
was maybe gonna quit a couple of years ago and
just retire. I thought when Stafford went, he'd go to
and I thought Stafford was done a couple of years ago,
when I was wrong. But what is it about this kid?
He's still a kid. He's thirteen younger than me. That
is so unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Well, first of all, he's you watch him on the sideline. Yeah,
and he and he you know, not just because he
has more hair than me, but he has spiked up
and run. He's running around and he is he's wired
that way. He is really intense. He wishes he could
be playing. And so you couple that with how smart
he is, and you know, he comes from a great,
(31:46):
great pedigree of football, and the players, his players love him.
They play for him, you know. And I don't think
you can understate that. I think that's really they listened
to him, you know, and and I you know, he's
an impressive guy and I've really fun to talk to.
I interviewed him at the Super Bowl. Oh yeah, yeah,
and kind of a humble guy, you know, for all
(32:06):
his accomplished My agent is his agent. Okay, you know,
so I should I should phone him and yeah, Borrows
and Andy too. Reed, he's got them all. I should
phone him and get a little money from him.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Well, and then coach, there's this third team in the
division that still thinks they're competing for the division championship
and the Niners, and it looks like they're going back
to brock Purty after mac Jones went five and three.
Very similar numbers. If you look at Max's numbers compared
to Dak Mayfield Mahomes, they're all about the same over
(32:41):
the last eight games. I mean, is it just a
no brainer to go back to who your starter was
because brock Perty wouldn't five and three in his last
eight games that he coch that he pitched.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, but you know, they he signed that big contract
in the offseason, so they told him you're the guy,
and we hope you're the guy for a long time.
And now he's healthy again, surprisingly they put him back in. Now.
Jones did a really good job, I think, coupled with
what they do to Shanhan smart and he knows how
to coach quarterbacks. But they've been hurt. They're kind of hurt.
(33:12):
So I put them just a notch below the Hawks
right now and the Rams.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Well, Mike Home grins with us, and I will tell
you that the MLB network just went to a commercial break,
so we are awaiting the announcement of the American League MVP.
I'm sitting over here, I'm sweating, my heart's palpitating.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
My foot pressures through the roof.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, I just I'm more concerned about us actually being
on the air when it happens. I don't want to
blow it right. I want to make sure we're on
the air and get the announcements. So we're not gonna
go anywhere. We're gonna keep it right here. There'll be
no commercial breaks, not at my watch, not up in
here until we find out if the MVP is going
to col But we are literally seconds away, guys, from
finding out if Cayl Rowley has beaten thereon judge for
(33:53):
the American League MVP. But Mike, let me ask you this.
We mentioned Stafford against the Blitz. Darnold against the Blitz,
by the way, is not very good. He's got four touchdowns,
four picks, sixty one point three percent.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Uh ninety three passer rating, which is not terrible.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
But if not one hundred and twenty six with no Blitz,
he's got a passer rating of one hundred and twenty eight.
So does McVeigh see that, talk to his defensive coordinators
and say the numbers say he's not good against the Blitz,
go after him.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Is it that easy?
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Noell, it's that's gonna be a big part of their plan.
Then if because you know, you get to we have
talked about this before, you get the little analytics people
in the upper room with the glasses.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
You know, wait, you got glasses.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
See yeah, but minor not the dark rims around.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Gotcha.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
He does not beat little eyes.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
So but they they give feed all the information and
that's part of your preparation. Yeah, and they know that
and so and then the Rams, I think they have
pretty good pass rush tendencies.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Coach, they're doing something this year that you used to
be really good at, scoring touchdowns on the first drive
of the game. They did it zero times under Ryan
Grubb last year, not once. They've done it four times
already this season. What are you seeing in their opening
drives that are impressing you?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Well, I think they which I hope they would do.
They come out passing the ball a little bit more
in the opening drive, play action, pass, getting first downs,
getting short you know, second and two, you know, and
allows them to sustain the drive and h no, I
think you know what, look at I learned. I did that.
(35:27):
I copied Bill Walsh my first fifteen and all that, right.
Mike Shanahan followed me in San Francisco. He did the
same thing. Okay, Gary Kubiak worked for Mike. He did
the same thing. Now his son is doing the same
thing right now. So it's just something that I think
is really good thing to do in your preparation. Yeah.
(35:48):
Billy always said takes the emotion out of it for you,
you know.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, guys, I got some bad news.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Oh she was.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Aaron Judge has won the American League MVP. Just came down,
just announced on the MLB network. I was really really
hoping to be able to go on the air and
scream out that cal Raley has won the American League MVP.
But Aaron Judge at home surrounded by family and friends,
Aaron Judge getting seventeen first place votes, KYL Raley getting
(36:16):
thirteen first close votes, thirteen second for Aaron Judge, seventeen
second for cal Rally.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
So they basically just flipped right.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Aaron Judge beats out cal Rawley in a very very
close vote. Aaron Judge, guys, is your twenty twenty five
American League MVP.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Well two voters difference, And I thought we may have
an opportunity to have a tie MVP. They have had
that before, but it's been a long long time. You
could have had a tie. But you know, like I
said yesterday, I'm I'm not gonna change my take. If
you think Aaron Judge should have been the MVP. You're
right if you think if you think cal Rawley should
have been the MVP, you're also right. Unfortunately, there were
(36:56):
two deserving MVP candidates in the American League this season.
Unfortunately for Cal, it just happened to be.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
That year for Well, here's the thing, and we said
this yesterday on the air that I wasn't gonna lose
my mind if cal Rawley did not win the MVP.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And I'm not going to. I'm just disappointed, right, you know.
I mean, you're a fan, you love these guys. I'm
disappointed for Cal. I think he deserved it. I think
he's earned it. I think he's a phenomenal leader.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
My moment with Cal was two years ago when he
basically called out the ownership group for not making the
team good enough to make the playoffs. And that was
a guy that was still kind of green right in
this league, and Scott Servis actually called him out, told
him to control his emotions. And I know you're a
fan of Scott because of his packer ties and all that,
but that's the day that I kind of was a
little bit down on Scott. I could not believe that
(37:40):
his manager would come out and not have his back
for showing that kind of emotion, especially for a former catcher.
But I mean, look, guys, Aaron Judge had an OPS
two hundred points higher than cal Raley did. He had
a batting average eighty four points higher than cal Raley did,
and he had what is it, thirty five extra hits
in seven less games than cal Riley. He is a
much better all around hitter than Cal. I thought there'd
(38:02):
be a little bit of Yankee fatigue. I thought the
defense would maybe put him over the top, and it
didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
So I'm not I'm not angry about it. I'm not
shocked by this at all.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I'm just bummed for cal because he's a great guy
and I hope he does have a chance to win
one down the road.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Well, to what Dick said, it's a two votes, right,
and when it's close, when it's close, it even hurts
a little more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he he almost
got it.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, looks like the games that you lost, the big
games they get lost that were tight.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Would you rather just got your ass kipt yea honestly?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Sometimes, yeah, those are the ones you lose, the tight ones.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Yeah, what's unfortunate though, is that Cal hit sixty home
runs and didn't win it. Right to a guy that's
probably going to do what he did this year again
next year, because that's how good Aaron judges. This, in
my opinion, was Cal shot.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
This was his will it take? If this isn't enough,
what will it take?
Speaker 5 (38:55):
It will take close to that, and then Judge and
the rest of the league comes down to earth. You
had an elite err in Judge this year. If you
just had a good errand Judge, Cal would have won it.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Hey, good stuff, Thanks for Baron with all right, no, no,
no direct I apologize for that. Yeah, can you bring
her buy more often?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
By the way, I will she classes the place up,
you know, I'll ask her, Yeah, come buy more office.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
She needs I need a chauffeur.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
She needs to drive it absolutely and bring some food
home with you for God's sakes.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
From the five twenty bar and grill.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
All right, great stuff and we're talking a week right,
but all right, Mike Hongrin with us again, breaking news.
Aaron Judge has won the American League MVP Cal Riley
finishing seconds. We're gonna break a lot more to come,
including David Samson. Good night to have him on, he'll
tell us if the voter's made the right choice at
five point twenty tonight on ninety three three KJRFM,
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