July 25, 2025 • 42 mins
Welcome to another episode of Aligned & Elevated with Dr. Allison Feldt, founder of Body Motion Physical Therapy. In this heartfelt and energizing conversation, Dr. Feldt is joined by Dr. Katrina, Director of the Edmonds location, to dive into the soul and science behind Body Motion PT. 💬 Topics we explore: • Why a spa-like environment transforms healing • How pelvic floor therapy unlocks women’s energy, creativity, and leadership potential • The clinical foundation behind Body Motion Protocols • Why pelvic floor work is crucial for holistic, long-term health • Mentorship, team dynamics, and building a dream PT career • The national vision for changing women’s healthcare access This episode is a must-watch for anyone curious about pelvic floor PT, new grads looking for mentorship, or women seeking to feel stronger, more vibrant, and more connected to their bodies. ✨ Let’s revolutionize women’s health, one core at a time. 📍 Locations: Edmonds & Poulsbo, WA 📣 Hiring: Yes! See the link below to join our dynamic, women-led team. 🔗 Resources & Links: • Job openings: https://bodymotionpt.com/hiring-page-physical-therapist/ • Artwork by Sally Willey: https://sallywilleart.com/home.html 👍 Like, subscribe, and share to empower more women with this message. #PelvicFloorTherapy #WomensHealth #PhysicalTherapy #BodyMotionPT #AlignedAndElevated #HolisticHealing
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of A Line and Elevated.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm your host, doctor Allison Felt, owner of Body Motion
Physical Therapy, and today I have the director of Body Motion,
doctor Katrina, and so thank you for being here, thanks
for having me. What are we talking about this episode?
And we were gonna talk about the clinic tonight. Okay,
you love, I'm very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yes, okay. So doctor Katrina just give you a little background.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
She is a doctor of physical therapy, pelvic expert physical therapist,
and she runs she runs Body Motion, She runs our
Edmonds location. She touches base with our director at at Polsbow,
which is doctor Riley, and she has been I mean,
I breathe easy and sleep easy at night because doctor
(00:43):
Katrina carries the stress. She carry you carry the load.
And it's been such a blessing ever since you have arrived.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I was thinking about the other day about how just
the timing, how good it was, cause I think we
had just moved back to the area I was pregnant,
and I reached out to you, I think via email
maybe yeah, and just said, hey, any chance you're looking
to hire like a part time pete and you like
quickly got on the phone with me and the conversation
went so well, and then.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I came in for the interview and the rest is history.
But yeah, just you know, sometimes the timing is I mean,
it really is. Oh, I mean, what what a blessing.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I remember you were like, I'm also want to be
the director and I was like absolutely. I was like,
let's make you public for or physical therapist first and
then we can see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And then you called me into taking the director role
right out of maternity lead.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, so grets now regrets it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, let's talk about the clinic today, because you have
created this beautiful If you haven't mentor a men's location,
it is water view when the mountains want to come out.
You see the whole Olympic Mountain Range from some of
the rooms, and it's just a spa like vibe been here.
And I always said, like, if I ever read my
own clinic, which has never been my dream, you know,
I would want to make it feel like moms are
coming to the spot, right, and you've definitely created that here.
(02:04):
Let alone, just I think the you know, I'm a
little bit biased, but the culture of everyone that works here.
So what, like, why did you want to create that vibe?
Like what made you think like this is what moms need.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Our life is chaotic, it's hard to sad peace and
I when I go somewhere, like I like to go
to the gym, I like to go work out of
the gym, and if.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I'm going to go do exercise, I want to go
to the gym.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I don't want to go to the gym an spa,
you know, like I want to I love going to
the spot. It's always been a thing for me. I
also feel like the reason I put the clinic in
Edmunds was I just felt healing happened here every time
I dropped into the bowl. I'd be coming from Seattle
or coming from a house somewhere and coming into Edmunds
and you just like you just breathe a little easier,
(02:49):
Like your shoulders just relax.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You see the mountain range, you see the Puget Sound.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It is it is gorgeous, and so you just feel
a little bit more down to earth.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You feel a little rooted, you feel you just feel good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And so it's such a good platform and basis for
healing to begin and continue and so that's why I
chose Edmonds, And that doesn't really answer why I wanted
to spa like that. I just knew that part of
what we do as far as pelvic floor work is
we downregulate the body. We help bring people out of
their fight or flight stress responses. That's normal part of life.
(03:25):
It's healthy, like you want to have normal stresses in life.
But there's also this air of like women carry a lot.
Most women I know are like type A. They run
their family, they do it all right, and so the
minute that they don't need to be going to the
gym twenty four to seven, they don't need their pelvic
floor physical therapist to be in a gym. They need
their pelic floor physical therapy to be downregulating, to be relaxing.
(03:48):
And that's why I want to spawn environment. What's not
relaxing for me is to see vaginas on the wall.
I don't want to see. I don't like that stuff.
I don't like, you know. I know a lot of
public reputies love like the vagina art and like get
down on that, and that's fine, but like I like that,
I just like it to be peaceful. And so we
have nice paintings in the clinic, and we have you know,
(04:10):
pretty mirrors, and we don't have like a ton of
anatomy pictures hanging on the walls, like we just don't
have that. We have you know, models, of course, and
we have pictures that we can take out and show people,
but we really do try to keep the vibe like
super spat, like super elevated, so you can just be
relaxed and like really come home to your body.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And that's just what I That's what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I wanted it to be a place that I wanted
to go every day and I always.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Want to love the spons so I was like feel it.
That's that's how it came to be.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And I love that differentiation between walking in because since
your mind kind of like okay, and now I'm at
my public beauty appointment, I can kind of take a breath,
and then even coming into work here if there's if
it's been a stressful, fairy commute for me, you know,
I can walk in and it's like okay, I'm here,
I'm in this peaceful environment.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So I think that mindshift just going into the appointment is.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
So huge for all of our clients and for anyone
wondering because I've had so many questions about it lately.
The art on our walls is beautiful here.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I just love it.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And it is Alison Doctor, Allison's aunt who has just
screened alot this beautiful works.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So Sally Willie will link her. Yes, yeah, because think her.
She sells all her stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
She's like, she's a pretty renowned artist in the Midwest,
is in a ton of art galleries and she has it. Actually,
it's so funny. We're recording this my mom, my mom
and her in Michigan right now. They're an open house
for her art tonight. Cool.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You have to share like a snap of the pictures
from Yeah, yeah, Oh, I totally will Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm so glad you've read that so many I've had
so many questions about it lately, so I'm like jealous
of the answer.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's great. But and they're all for sale. I just
don't know how to sell them.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But we reach out to Tally, but she can't tell
you that.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And then, aside from obviously the vibe being a little
bit differ thanybe, we'd get at other clinics, what do
you think differentiates like, you know, body motion pt Edmunds
and Paul's though, apart from other PET clinics that also
do public floor.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, I think I really think it's a mindset like
we look at and I think every public floor PET
wants to tell you they treat holistically, they treat the
whole body, and I hope you know you think that's
the case. But especially in like I'm gonna sorry back
up here, but in like insurance based practices, you get
a referral for incontinence and you're like, I'm gonna treat
(06:23):
that incontinence right, like that client's coming for they're.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Peeing their pants.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What we've learned is like, first off, no one's a
freaking diagnosis, and so we get to know the person right,
and we get to know what their hopes and dreams
are for the next six months, for the next year,
for the next five years, and when we start from
that place and work it backwards, sure they might have
a little incontinence, but it might be fucking irrelevant to them.
(06:50):
Hard in my French, like, they just really don't care
that they're peeing their pants, but they want to feel
really strong during.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Delivery, you know, And it's it's when you work it backwards.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I think from like what their goals are, who they
are as a person, and where they see themselves in
the future. And a lot of times women haven't even
women asked that question and so they don't even know
how to start there.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
But it's a good talking point, and like it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It just allows us to see people as they are
fully instead of just being like.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So you're here for your incontinence. How often do you
pee your pants? You jump on the trampoline and you
pee your pants.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Okay, Like we'll deal with that, Like here's why you
pee your pants, and we're gonna go like, yes, we
have all those conversations, and we don't focus on necessarily
the diagnosis themselves.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We focus on optimizing the person and.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Really and I think that's what differentiates us from just
maybe your standard insurance. I got a referral from the
doctor to fix this, and not fully realizing like why
you need to fix that, or like why that's maybe
important for your future self in five years, who's gonna
go do.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
The iron Man? Like you know? And I think I
think that's the biggest differentiator.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I love that, and I think there's because then if
you just fix the incontinents.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Right, it's like Ora, you see you later, bye.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
But there's still all these other issues that might be
presenting as dysfunction that they don't even realize.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I can't tell you how many times I've had clients
come in and maybe.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
They're coming in for incontinence, but then when we dig
into it, there's actually X, Y, and Z also going
on because no one's are asked them those questions, right yea,
And so it's kind of putting together the whole picture
of the whole body piece.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
We can treat that. So yeah, I think that's a
huge differentiator.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And when you ask those questions, they don't even realize, like, oh,
that's actually something you could help me with. I thought
I was always gonna be gritting my teeth during sex.
Like I didn't realize that could actually feel good for me. Oh, Like,
it's not supposed to hurt when that happens.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, no, oh I sit for two hours my tail bump.
Should it hurt? Yeah? Oh yeah, no, no, that's not normal.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Oh okay, So but it's super common, and like we
see people with this kind of pattern and experience that,
so thank you for sharing, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And it's like and I think.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That just also gives people hope, but it also leads
me to like.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Women are just badasses. Right, Like we go and we
have babies.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And we experience like excruciating contractions and we our bodies
change crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
For nine months, or you deal with years and years.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Of infertility, and it's like this emotional pain and like
or you have menstrual pain since you're fourteen when you
start menstruating, and like pain is just almost ingrained and accepted.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And so people women especially and.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm sure you see this too when you talk to clients,
they don't tell you they have pain. Women do not
freaking identify with pain because they're so freaking strong, and
so they might say they have their discomfort.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Or it bothers them a little bit, but they're used
to that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Like they go five days a month with severe cramp
and can barely get out of bed. Yeah, they have
some pain or some discomfort, but it's like so many
but like you're stuck in bed, you know, or like
you're willing yourself to get out of bed, and it's
like the amount of what I'm I guess in Frannigan
Day is like the women just.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Like kind of take it and go. And I think
that's part.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's badass and like it's what we've had to do
as we've evolved. But there's also this bane of like,
so there's no research supporting how we can help women
with menstrual pain unless we give them birth control pills
and unless we decide that they need uterine oblasions and
then hysterectomies or endometriosis surgery. And it's like, holy cow,
(10:37):
like that's what we decided versus having like a more
holistic approach and like things that we can actually help
with as far as from a pelt floor a physical
therapy standpoint. So I don't even know your original question,
but I think you didn't even ask the question. I
was just responding to like this pain situation. And I
think so many of our clients just same thing. They
(10:58):
they don't even see themsels is having pain. So when
you start to ask them these questions and they realize like, oh,
I don't have to experience that, and my body can
feel this good, we're just unlocking like a different level
of their potential that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Will help society and all the beautiful.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, let's talk about that, because you just recently kind
of had that quote of if we can unlock women's
potentials like by making them feel good and their bodies
again like without pain, or maybe they're just functioning better like.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
What that does for their lives and society? Like yeah,
I mean I used to think it was a coincidence,
no joke.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I was like why, I would tell Devin, why does
every woman that come here they want to start their
own business or they want to start doing this for
other people?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And I was like, it's such like a virtuous thing too.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
It's never like a oh, I'm going to go, you know,
build something that doesn't affect anyone, you know, It's it's
always like contributing like massively to the world, like some
active service, right, some way to move society.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And yeah, and it's like everyone has like such.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Amazing contributions or like creative ideas after they would come
out of therapy and you're like or public ploor physical
therapy specifically, and you're like, wait, I was just working
on their public floor and like we and you're literally
when you work on when you have public floor work done,
and if you've never had it, I cannot suggest like
you need to have it because like it's that epic
and it it doesn't just free up your core and
(12:29):
give you a stronger core and protect your joints in
your future and save you joint replacements and bladder replacements,
because it does do all those things, but there's like
a way deeper level where it just unlocks your potential
like it does. And you know, when we get the
core functioning well, and we get your vodue well and
we get you feeling really good, there's just this element
(12:50):
of like, you can unlock your creativity, You can unlock
what you think is, you can more identify who you
are in your body. You can start to establish who
you are as your unique self. And when you decide
who you are as your unique self, and you really
truly like can get into that person, which a lot
(13:12):
of people don't have the luxury or privilege of doing
because we're in this fight or flight, go go go,
and we feel like shit or we're barely hanging on
or it's just chaotic mom life, YadA, YadA, YadA. But
when you start to go into yourself and heal yourself
and fix yourself, it truly does unlock something inside of
you to go build your empire, to go build whatever
(13:33):
you want to contribute to this world, and like it
helps you to really get further in touch with yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I hope this is making.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Sense so that when you get further in touch with yourself,
you can truly decide, like and figure out what is
your reason for.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Being on this planet, what is your mission for being here?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Like why were you put on this planet? I can
go on and on about this. No, I love it.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's just it's so reallyateable because and for anyone listening
who's had any sort of pain, whether pregnancy, postpartum, perimenopause,
you that chronic like low.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Level pain just drains your energy.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You know. It's like then you have no energy left
door for your kids when you get home from work,
You have no energy to do anything fun on the
weekends with your friends because you're just trying to get
on top of this pain. You can't work out because
you can't take care of yourself, right, And so just
to like be able to fix that dysfunction and not
have that energy suck every single day. And I mean
I've had I had that for eighteen months postpartum, right,
(14:31):
and now it's like, oh, okay, I do want to
take that course for work or Okay, yeah, let's go
on a vacation.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I have the energy to maybe do a hike. You know.
It's just the amount of things that unlocks for your
quality of life I think is so huge. So yeah,
I love that so much.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Okay, so then tell me how, like, you know, taking
the vibe of the clinic, this unlocking like women's potentials
kind of your mission, and then how did you kind
of put that into your protocols that we have here,
you know, our birth prep, fertility, etc. But just in
general having a protocol at all for public florvieties.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So, as we grew the clinic and we brought on
more and more providers, it was really important to me that,
say Megan refers to her friend Brianna here, it was
important to me that Brianna got the same experience as
far as her birth prep goes. Obviously very individualized for
Brianna's body versus Megan's body. But if Megan had this
(15:26):
really good experience and like she got the birth of
her dreams and you know, she prevented prolapse and did
all these things because of our protocols here who she
worked with here, I wanted that to translate to who
she was sending here. So that's why, I mean, that's
why we wrote the protocols. And also I couldn't I
could have a bigger impact than just keeping it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
All in my brain, right.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And I think after years and years and years of
like really threading together and like seeing these patterns and
people after people, you really come up with like, all right,
when people are pregnant and you give them X, Y
and Z, and you do it at these weeks through
your pregnancy and cover this in the first trimester, this
in the second, this in the third, they're gonna be
(16:12):
set up for a really successful vaginal delivery or C section.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And so I think that's like, that's why we had
to put the protocols in place.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And I mean it's amazing because for me, it gives
me a peace of mind because I know that like
when my best friend comes here like for her pregnancy
and delivery, or when my sister in law comes here,
it's like I know that they're getting all of it,
you know, and you know it took years and years
and years to put these protocols together, and you know
(16:40):
you've been on the forefront. I think the fertility protocol
was developed when you were here, and so it's like,
as we've learned and seen hotterns change and see women evolve,
because women evolve and change, and what we're seeing in society.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Changes, right, we have to change.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And so our fertility protocols have definitely like evolved as well,
and I think only gotten hugely vastly better, especially with
our regenerative technology.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And so yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Mean we've done that in order to make sure that
people get the care that we want them to get
and so that they can get knocked up how we
you know, how they want to get knocked up, and
right what we can be on that journey with them,
and we want everyone to you know, it's very individualized
to everyone's body.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
But the framework, like you mentioned earlier when we were in.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
A previous conversation before this podcast, you were really like,
it's the framework of how we deliver the protocols because
really like every doctor has, every provider has their own autonomy,
right and how they're going to deliver it and and
everything like that.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But I think it's yeah, I hope that it doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, it does, and I think I love how as
a provider you're in for anyone who's not been to
our clinic.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
You know, we get to treat, we get to.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Bring our background into our treatment, right, Like we've got
people with different ortho backgrounds. You know, I have a
neuro background, and so we all kind of have our
different spin on how we treat, but our.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Foundations the same. And I think as a provider, it's
cool to.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Have that autonomy but also have a little bit of
a guideline and with these certain clients, like we kind
of know the drill for how we're going.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
To treat them. Of course we get those like random.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Like complex you know clients, and those ones are fun
because we can work together as a team to figure
out how we're gonna work with them.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But I just the ability to bring our own kind
of unique spin is really cool.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But also using your protocols don't Yeah, just a really
neat thing you've created. And then what to put you
on the hot seat here, But what would you say
if someone said, oh, hey, are.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Your protocols based on research? They're based on clinical research?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Perfect, yeah, one percent clinical outcomes and clinical research because
the reality is the first off, most reach research is
like the evidence don't necessarily support this right, don't necessarily
support this, you know, or like it's just so convoluted, right,
and it's hard, I think, especially with pelvic physical therapy. Okay,
(19:02):
so you're having them do key goals, you're having them
do all these other things. How can you pull out
what's actually working. So that's why I'm saying this is
years of clinical evidence, functional patterns and functional patterns and
and a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Of common sense.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think of, like what we know we need the
body to do, so the yeers can have a baby
and push the push the baby out of the body.
And so that's that's the evidence. That's the research. It's
really based on clinical clinical research.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And tell me about how like client feedback has kind
of helped with that too.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I Mean you hear clients say like, oh my gosh,
this worked. I've pushed my baby out in twenty.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Minutes or you know, now I'm able to run again
without pain or leaking.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Like hear those stories, right, and then you know like, well,
of course this is working then, right, Like it's not
just I treated them and then they never got better totally.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, it's still the well, like it still hits me,
especially with the first stories, like even like sea sections,
like these emergency se sections.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
They of course we can emergency se sections.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Clients will, you know, do our protocols and hope for
a vaginal delivery and like do everything they can to
show up for that vaginal delivery and what will happen,
Like there are certain things like a short quarter, like
the baby's not sending, like there are certain things that.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
We can't or the desils you know that we can't change,
or like a breach baby.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But a surgeon time and time again telling us that
our telling our clients that it was so easy to
get your baby out, like we didn't have to work
like we normally have to work to get this baby
out for a sea.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Section, time and time. Guess there's no research on that, right,
there's no research. Isn't research.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
There's not enough and I know there's more and more
coming on women's health hopefully, but there's just not enough
out there to say like this is this and this
is that in every single instancetry yeah, diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, it's going to take a hundred more surgeons saying
that though our clients for me to be like to
really hold on to it, because like even now, even
still with the vaginal birth. It's like it's an expectation,
to be honest with you, probably because we've had over
probably a thousand, you know, thousands of birth that like
at this point, like it's it doesn't blow my mind
(21:18):
necessarily when when my first time mom is like, I
have a ten pound baby and breathe my baby out
in two breasts, you know, yeah, with no tearing.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And so I'm like perfect, good.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Exactly what should have happened, you know, I'm like textbook good,
you know. And so it's like I still get super
I get the oxytocin hit every single baby that's born,
But like I that's almost an expectation, but it's taken
hundreds of births to get there, and so.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I think once once we got.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Into the upper hundreds, it made me feel like, Okay,
this is the serious thing that we're doing. This is
changing lives, like and this is making a world of
different it's for these birth outcomes. Right then then we
wrote the protocols. Cool, and yeah that I guess the
rest is history, But it still frustrates the shit out
(22:11):
of me that it's not like research base per se.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And that's where it's like, I know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
A lot of pets, and a lot of clinicians and
a lot of doctors want to hold on to that
this isn't research base, but the reality is like it
the clinical outcomes are all there, right, and we've trapped
birth outcomes for a long long time.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And yeah, And I think the fact of the matter
is like when you have.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We have nurses, like some of our biggest population is
OE nurses, and it's because they see our birth outcomes.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And so then they travel.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Here from the east side, or they travel here from
way north end or from Seattle US or Doula's because
they're like, nope, we've seen your clients deliver.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Right, and they want that. We want that. Yeah, And
so they come here for the buying motion birth prep protocols.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And I mean that speaks volumes, especially when like obi's
and mid wives are like, no, you need to go here,
you know, it's like, oh, okay, I mean that's the
reason for the birth protocols.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
That's the reason for the protocols. Yeah, I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And coming back to the clinic and the team all
lottle bit what what are you most proud of when
it comes to the team.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Like you, Wow, you should I mean I have a
lot of faults.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I can get very big picture and I can move
really fast.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, and I love my people so hard.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And when we when I've hired everybody, like they were
the right vibe, the right fit, just freaking perfect and
like that realm.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But that takes continue nurturing.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And I love all my relationships with all our our teammates,
and like I mean, I I was late to our
initial meeting this morning. Site just had to like catch
up right with everybody here. And but that's not possible
if we don't have someone like consistently carrying the vibes,
which is you, like you are consistently here.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
To kind of keep the vibe. And I mean all
of our teammates bring it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
They could be having the shittiest thing happen at home
and you just wouldn't know it.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Like we hold space for all that, of course, but
they show up just like because.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
They know that they're changing the world, Like they are
changing the lives of people that are going on to
change the world, and like that act of service to
bring that to women every single day, like that fills
you up.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I literally was.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Just talking to doctor Victoria this morning, and she's like
she's so pumped to go to two days a week.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
She's increasing her hours.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
After having her first child, she came back at one
day a week, and.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
She has that flexibility. Find the way.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Everyone's curious, we're very flexible here, Yeah, because you want
to support everybody whatever they need, right, and like we
all thrive at different ways. But like one thing I
said to her is, I was like, you could be
working at j C. Pennies and you could get your
cup filled because you get to have all these conversations.
I was like, but it's like extra special because you
get to go and like change these lives now twice twice,
(25:17):
two days a week, right, And she's like, yeah, it's
like that fulfillment you get from like seeing Bethany have
her first daginal delivery after a C section, Like you
did that, like you helped her get there. And it's
like that kind of fulfillment doesn't come Like I mean,
I'm sure it comes in other aspects.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And you would get very similar vibe somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
But like because of the fact that what we do
is so is an act of service, a true act
of service, It's like, I mean, it's so special.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I don't even know what the question was.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, it's a good and it's a even a good
reminder for me to hear you say all of that, because.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I remember I was before I made the Full.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Source to Woman's health and I read long story, but
moved off to the East Coast for night month, so
it was a travel fete there at a hospital, and
I just remember telling all the people I worked with,
They're like, oh, I just work with moms all day.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I just want to talk to moms all day. That's
what I want to do. Like, I just want to
switch to them my self so badly, and now that's
what they get to do.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
And like and that wouldn't be possible if you hadn't
have created this clinic and like this you know, dreaming position, right,
So it's pretty cool that not only are we getting
to serve and help improve you know, moms and other
women's quality of life, but like you've also helped improve
our life to where now I don't have to work
at the hospital, and I don't want to work at
because I get to be here.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So yeah, so like full circle. Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I was just thinking today when I was driving in Actually.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So I'm I'm off of a week of vacation not
coming into the clinic, And when I was on my
way in, it was like, I my hope for everyone is.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
That they have this exact same feeling coming back from vacation.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's like I want every single one of our employees
to be like, I'm so excited to go to work today,
Like I didn't have one ounce of dread, Like I
maybe don't want to respond to like all the emails
or you know whatever. But it's like but it's like
I could not wait to come get the vibes from
the people here, right, And it's like I'm not even
treating today, but it's like I get to come.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And when I found out you were going to be
here today, I thought this is gonna be hurt. I
was like, why are you so surprised from here? And
I'm like, I didn't know. I don't I'm not usually.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
We're recording this on Wendy and but like and like
even just to like see Devin and Tarn and like
it's like it is just so high, like to come
into work and feel like you make a difference and
like you want to be around people and like I
hope everybody's life.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Is equally as good on vacation as it is when
they come back into what they love to do and
what they get to do every single day, because it's
truly what we get to do, right, Like we get
to create the life.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
We want to create.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And you know, for me, this is a huge piece
of that. And I hope everyone who works your feels
that too.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
They do, they do, mean, I hear it all the time.
Everyone loves when you come in because obviously you're off
doing some other things to high level. And I know
everyone looks for like when DAW's gonna be here, and
love to get the little like.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Doctor Allison, you know, sprinkle every now and then too,
So okay. And then so what would you tell a
you know, maybe a new grad coming fresh out of
PT school there may be interested in public health but
a little nervous to like jump in or maybe they
know like hey, I'm want to go full force public floor.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Like what advice would you give them in.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Like maybe even treatment for the public floor, and just
like where to find mentorship?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
But also where where what to look for in a job? Yeah,
I mean look for a job that treats the whole person.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Look for a job where you can develop relationships not
just with clients, but with your you know, people around you.
I think that's what's so special. That's like one of
the biggest reasons I wanted to build a team. I
wanted support in validation. Initially for like everything I was seeing,
I'm like, is this you see this too?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And this really happened? Did she just yeah, exactly, And like.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
It was like so like to have those people around you,
it was so important. I feel really fortunate in my
career that I had extremely good mentors.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
That's where I learned so many of my tea and techniques.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
And it's like when I had mentors that practice felled
in Christ techniques and mentors that treated hyper mobility syndrome
and Elfstandel syndrome, and I had mentors that like just
had public floor physical therapy cuttings and to see all
the different things and be able to thread that into
like my practice and kind of create.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
My own little entity of what I did. It just
was all really really supportive, and especially in PET school.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I don't know what it is like now, but like
you know, we had two lectures on public floor physical therapy.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I think it's a little more so it's probably not
the most semester.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, right, And so like to know that you're getting
like the most top quality teaching and training, and anyone
that were on board here, it doesn't matter if you've
had twenty years experience or two or none. It's like
you we put them through training, like we all want
to make sure that our skills are just next level, right,
and like we can learn from you know, every clinician,
(30:14):
just like they can learn from us. Yeah, And I
think that's it's like the mindset of that just knowing
like we loved having a new grad that we recently
trained because it was like, oh yeah, like okay, tell
us what's new, like you know, and and then we
get to teach them all of our techniques and like
things that we've learned that work for our clients and
things that we've built into the protocols because they're just
that successful.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And so yeah, I think I think mentorship is huge, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And really truly making sure you're gonna get that mentorship.
And I that just obviously we all know that doesn't
happen really in an insurance based situation, just because we've.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Spent like a month training people and you know, so
MS a shorter, sometimes it's longer, but.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
It's all very skill based. If someone's not ready, then
we just are not setting.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Them fully free yet, right, Yeah, I'm not even training
on email and yeah, yeah, pretty pretty cool to have
that kind of one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
On one mentorship and support here. Yeah that's unique. Yeah yeah,
so I think.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I think that's good. And then really like we have
people like I think even when you started, it was like, well,
what was your education? Like, Okay, I took some NIOM courses,
I took some Hormon and Wallace courses.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But really it's like you can kind of take that education.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
You can take Herman and Wallace or APTA, And it's like,
but how are you gonna thread it into your own
practice and create something that's actually tangible for you to
get these to help people really truly unlock their potential,
you know. And I think that's where we've really tied
the d Like we've created a different a different thing here,
a different entity.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And if there's someone out there who is really like
a little bit interested in public health, that has like
a strong orth of skills and who loves ORTHO, would
you tell them, hey, still consider public floor or like,
m no, you're not gonna get as much worth though
in it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Your orthout patients will get ten times better if you
learn public floor physical therapy. Yeah, like, if you learn
how to read the pelvis and learn how to treat
the pelvis, you will understand that how much that knee plane,
that planner fash it is that hip pain is if
not rooted in the pelvic floor. The pelvic floor has
been a product of what's happened there too. So it's
(32:18):
like you were just such a better orthopt and every
single pelvic floor client, everyone has a velvet floor, everyone
has right, it's one hundred percent interrelated. And we are
we are orthopts, we are neural pets, and we are
pelvic pets. It is all one and the same because
we treat the entire system.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Do sports, you know, we're doing the return to.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Running up lift again and kind of how to help out.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Making sure I can hit my hockey games, making sure
you know the next person who can go to cross
bit and like or does go to cross it comes here,
rehab goes back to cross bit. Now we're not getting
post off new replacements or an ankle fusion or a
shoulder rotator cuff repair, although with a region we see
a little bit of that too, you know, but we like.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Everyone's an ortho client.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Every public floor client is an orthoplient, Like we're treating
some other part of their body as a piece of
what's happening in the pelvis too.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, what's a a It was a puma and our
position position. But tell me, you know, in neuro we
would also need really good orthoskills because it's still a
lot of manual joints, you know, with the.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Smesticity contractures all the neuro stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And that really hit me because I was like, Okay,
I shouldn't just ignore my orthoskills, right, like as you
get so neurofocused, and I think the same thing goes
for public floor, right, we can't just treat only the
public floor and like forget about all the.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Orthos stuff we've learned in school.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Like it really has to be combined because we are
treating the hip joint and then you joint, like you said, so, yeah,
I think that's really cool and just an exciting thing
to think about if you're a new grad, you know,
or you've been in a couple of years with ortho
and you're kind of interested in the public floor world.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
It doesn't have to be all or none, right, Like
you can do both. They will work well together. So
in some clients come in and we don't even treat
their public floor.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We're just treating them from a kind of women's health lens.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yes, but very worth of a focus. So absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah,
thank you for asking.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Okay, and then maybe final question, we'll see what is
your vision for body motion pt or just like public
floor rehab, like how do you want to see it change?
Like you know, let alone Edmund's Seattle area, and then
like even.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Just through the nation, like how do you what's your
vision for what pelfloor rehab will look like in five, ten,
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I mean I wish every single woman could experience
like true petty motion protocols, you know, I mean that's
my honest opinion. Like I wish my aunt Sally didn't
have to fly here from Chicago to like come get
her public floor worked on and like her hips picked
and her backs tuned up.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You know. Now, does she have some people that can
piece meal it in Chicago?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Sure, but like the difference in care when she here,
it's like it's just night and day, you know, and
like she has wonderful, wonderful providers. They just don't know
what we know, right, and so but we don't know
what they know. So like everyone has like beautiful platforms
where they come from. But I think how we've put
it together from a body motion perspective is so epic
(35:16):
that I can I like my dream of dreams would
be every single woman across this nation has access to
body motion protocols, truly and foremost, And like if we
could just get every single public provider and hopefully ten
times the amount of providers, because there is not enough
providers to service all the women that need help, and
every single woman deserves public floor physical there be even
(35:38):
if you don't think you need help. So it should
just be part of like maintenance care and like feeling
good in your body, just like you would go get
a massage. This should be that, right, because then you
are much stronger in your entire body. So if everyone
could have body motion protocols across the nation, I think
(35:59):
that would be the dream, right, because then you just
know you're unlocking so many women to go feel good
in their bodies and feel good all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Well, I mean, I think it's our bread and butter here.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And I talked to recently and of course to a
newer grad who's like, well, I just don't you know,
see as many public floor petis or pets clients as
you And I'm like, well, you're right, That's all I
treat all day long, is like people coming in for
a re public floor is function, even if there's other
things going on, And so it takes so much of.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
That seeing them day in and day out for weeks
and months to like you put you put the patterns
together almost faster, right, and.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You like learn how to treat the public floor even
faster than someone who's maybe at Insurance raceed clinic with
ORTHO coming in and then they maybe see two or
three clients a week who have public floor too. So
kind of a unique thing here where we can really
get to know the public floor faster and then treat
And if we could just get that to more people, right, So, like,
(36:56):
how do we get more people so that they can
also have the opportunity to treat more with floor clients.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And unfortunately, and I say unfortunately because I think this
is ingrained in us from when we're in school, like
when we're in grad school.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I think you think that your.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Effectiveness as a physical therapist is based on how quickly
can you get someone one and done with you?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Can you get them better in three sessions?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Like, sure, we can get some continent in three sessions,
if you know, if it's not super severe.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
But like the.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Reality is like that doesn't do shit, Like they're going
to be in continent again in three more months, you know,
because you didn't change any of their patterns or fix
any of their stuff and or teach them how to
maintain their public floor function.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And like everyone needs maintenance.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Like life isn't just like you know, peaches and buttercups,
Like we're constantly try I don't even know if that's
the same.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I think I just made that up.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Peach butter cups, but like we're constantly trying to create
a balance, right, Like you're always going to be walking
a little heavier on your right length and your left
like or vice versa. And like it's like just this
constant ebb and flow of balance, and like are you
training for something? Are you do you know, progressing your body?
You're like exactly, like there is just so much of
like maintaining that balance. That's like we don't look at
(38:10):
our successes like, oh, we've got this patient betteran two visits, Like, No, Like,
we want to make sure that like you feel good
in your skin three hundred and sixty five days a year, right, Like,
and when you feel good in your skin, like you
show up for yourself, you show up for your family,
you show up to this world in a different form
because you feel really good, and then you go spread
that joy and like that goodness to everybody else, right,
(38:32):
And like that's the evolution that we want to see.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's what we're trying to change.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
And like, and I think and that stems from the
mindset that's behind body motion parocols, And the mindset is prevention.
The mindset is we prevent those birth traumas, we prevent
having to you know, fix those birth trauma's postpartum.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Now there's trauma's trauma.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
And birth itself is trauma, right, and you have to
recover after you have birth. But like it's like the
prevention that is locked in and baked in to every
aspect of every single protocol. I think that's the mindset
and it stems from also it's selfish as buck, Like
I want to grow old to be a really healthy,
(39:12):
badass motherfucker on the ice at ninety. I want to
be that lady, you know. I want to be strong.
I want to be able to Like last night, I
got checked from behind and fell flat and this really
big guy fell on me and I got up and
I felt great, and I was just like and people
were like, oh my god, are you okay? And I'm
just like, yeah, I'm almost thirty nine. Yeah, I know
(39:33):
when I'm ninety okay. But like that's like, you know
what I mean, that's the like, so it is selfish
and like the fact that like I'm just trying to
do everything to optimize my body and trying to share
what's worked as well.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
And maybe you don't have.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Three hundred and sixty five days of like perfect pa
for you living right, but now you know exactly what
you need to do and you know you can come
in and get treated and then that's gonna help you
move on. So yes, just the education on that piece
of the main nance and meaning kind of constant.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Help with your public flo our sauces are so important
because I have my things, I have my pro lapse.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I have my SI pain that's from the patterns of
a knee surgery years ago. And it's like, I just
want to try and prevent that from being a hip replacement,
try and prevent that from being a bladder surgery, right,
so it becomes a bladder surgery, right, Okay, Now I
want to prevent myself from getting wheelchair status or diaperse status,
you know. And it's like, you're gonna have things. Everybody
has their things, and it doesn't mean you're a failure.
(40:28):
It just means that, like we get to continue to
balance because healing is optimization, optimization is healing.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
They're all one and the same.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So the more that we try to continue to progress
and like do everything for our wellness, like we're also
doing everything for our optimization, which will contribute to the world,
make it.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
A better place. You get it, love it, and we'll
kind of wrap up here. But I know, you know,
we are hiring here. I found motion, so we are
always here. We are now higher.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
So if any future us a listening to this podcast
or watching this on YouTube, what would you say to
them and like why they should join our team?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We just have it. I mean, our culture is magical obviously.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
I think we see, like my mission is that, like
you want to come to work, you love being here,
you love being with your family, and you love thriving
out of here and in here.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
And I think everyone that is a part of this.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Team is like just believes in women, believes in women's
health and women's optimization from like through and through, and
so there's like a constant pursuit of we're all trying
to like grow and become better people, right and beyond
this path to help other people do that same exact thing.
So yeah, I think if you fit that bill, apply
(41:46):
to join our team we have.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's just really sort link the job ad below.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
The job only apply if you're a licensed physical therapist
or physical therapy or want to move to Washington or
want to move to Siamo. Might we might help you.
We might help you. Yeah, no, great, Okay, that's a wrap.
Thank you so much for joining us on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Have a lovely day. Bye,
Welcome to another episode of A Line and Elevated.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm your host, doctor Allison Felt, owner of Body Motion
Physical Therapy, and today I have the director of Body Motion,
doctor Katrina, and so thank you for being here, thanks
for having me. What are we talking about this episode?
And we were gonna talk about the clinic tonight. Okay,
you love, I'm very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yes, okay. So doctor Katrina just give you a little background.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
She is a doctor of physical therapy, pelvic expert physical therapist,
and she runs she runs Body Motion, She runs our
Edmonds location. She touches base with our director at at Polsbow,
which is doctor Riley, and she has been I mean,
I breathe easy and sleep easy at night because doctor
(00:43):
Katrina carries the stress. She carry you carry the load.
And it's been such a blessing ever since you have arrived.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I was thinking about the other day about how just
the timing, how good it was, cause I think we
had just moved back to the area I was pregnant,
and I reached out to you, I think via email
maybe yeah, and just said, hey, any chance you're looking
to hire like a part time pete and you like
quickly got on the phone with me and the conversation
went so well, and then.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I came in for the interview and the rest is history.
But yeah, just you know, sometimes the timing is I mean,
it really is. Oh, I mean, what what a blessing.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I remember you were like, I'm also want to be
the director and I was like absolutely. I was like,
let's make you public for or physical therapist first and
then we can see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And then you called me into taking the director role
right out of maternity lead.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, so grets now regrets it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, let's talk about the clinic today, because you have
created this beautiful If you haven't mentor a men's location,
it is water view when the mountains want to come out.
You see the whole Olympic Mountain Range from some of
the rooms, and it's just a spa like vibe been here.
And I always said, like, if I ever read my
own clinic, which has never been my dream, you know,
I would want to make it feel like moms are
coming to the spot, right, and you've definitely created that here.
(02:04):
Let alone, just I think the you know, I'm a
little bit biased, but the culture of everyone that works here.
So what, like, why did you want to create that vibe?
Like what made you think like this is what moms need.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Our life is chaotic, it's hard to sad peace and
I when I go somewhere, like I like to go
to the gym, I like to go work out of
the gym, and if.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I'm going to go do exercise, I want to go
to the gym.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I don't want to go to the gym an spa,
you know, like I want to I love going to
the spot. It's always been a thing for me. I
also feel like the reason I put the clinic in
Edmunds was I just felt healing happened here every time
I dropped into the bowl. I'd be coming from Seattle
or coming from a house somewhere and coming into Edmunds
and you just like you just breathe a little easier,
(02:49):
Like your shoulders just relax.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You see the mountain range, you see the Puget Sound.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It is it is gorgeous, and so you just feel
a little bit more down to earth.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You feel a little rooted, you feel you just feel good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And so it's such a good platform and basis for
healing to begin and continue and so that's why I
chose Edmonds, And that doesn't really answer why I wanted
to spa like that. I just knew that part of
what we do as far as pelvic floor work is
we downregulate the body. We help bring people out of
their fight or flight stress responses. That's normal part of life.
(03:25):
It's healthy, like you want to have normal stresses in life.
But there's also this air of like women carry a lot.
Most women I know are like type A. They run
their family, they do it all right, and so the
minute that they don't need to be going to the
gym twenty four to seven, they don't need their pelvic
floor physical therapist to be in a gym. They need
their pelic floor physical therapy to be downregulating, to be relaxing.
(03:48):
And that's why I want to spawn environment. What's not
relaxing for me is to see vaginas on the wall.
I don't want to see. I don't like that stuff.
I don't like, you know. I know a lot of
public reputies love like the vagina art and like get
down on that, and that's fine, but like I like that,
I just like it to be peaceful. And so we
have nice paintings in the clinic, and we have you know,
(04:10):
pretty mirrors, and we don't have like a ton of
anatomy pictures hanging on the walls, like we just don't
have that. We have you know, models, of course, and
we have pictures that we can take out and show people,
but we really do try to keep the vibe like
super spat, like super elevated, so you can just be
relaxed and like really come home to your body.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And that's just what I That's what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I wanted it to be a place that I wanted
to go every day and I always.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Want to love the spons so I was like feel it.
That's that's how it came to be.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And I love that differentiation between walking in because since
your mind kind of like okay, and now I'm at
my public beauty appointment, I can kind of take a breath,
and then even coming into work here if there's if
it's been a stressful, fairy commute for me, you know,
I can walk in and it's like okay, I'm here,
I'm in this peaceful environment.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So I think that mindshift just going into the appointment is.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
So huge for all of our clients and for anyone
wondering because I've had so many questions about it lately.
The art on our walls is beautiful here.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I just love it.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And it is Alison Doctor, Allison's aunt who has just
screened alot this beautiful works.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So Sally Willie will link her. Yes, yeah, because think her.
She sells all her stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
She's like, she's a pretty renowned artist in the Midwest,
is in a ton of art galleries and she has it. Actually,
it's so funny. We're recording this my mom, my mom
and her in Michigan right now. They're an open house
for her art tonight. Cool.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You have to share like a snap of the pictures
from Yeah, yeah, Oh, I totally will Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm so glad you've read that so many I've had
so many questions about it lately, so I'm like jealous
of the answer.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's great. But and they're all for sale. I just
don't know how to sell them.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But we reach out to Tally, but she can't tell
you that.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And then, aside from obviously the vibe being a little
bit differ thanybe, we'd get at other clinics, what do
you think differentiates like, you know, body motion pt Edmunds
and Paul's though, apart from other PET clinics that also
do public floor.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, I think I really think it's a mindset like
we look at and I think every public floor PET
wants to tell you they treat holistically, they treat the
whole body, and I hope you know you think that's
the case. But especially in like I'm gonna sorry back
up here, but in like insurance based practices, you get
a referral for incontinence and you're like, I'm gonna treat
(06:23):
that incontinence right, like that client's coming for they're.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Peeing their pants.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What we've learned is like, first off, no one's a
freaking diagnosis, and so we get to know the person right,
and we get to know what their hopes and dreams
are for the next six months, for the next year,
for the next five years, and when we start from
that place and work it backwards, sure they might have
a little incontinence, but it might be fucking irrelevant to them.
(06:50):
Hard in my French, like, they just really don't care
that they're peeing their pants, but they want to feel
really strong during.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Delivery, you know, And it's it's when you work it backwards.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I think from like what their goals are, who they
are as a person, and where they see themselves in
the future. And a lot of times women haven't even
women asked that question and so they don't even know
how to start there.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
But it's a good talking point, and like it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It just allows us to see people as they are
fully instead of just being like.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So you're here for your incontinence. How often do you
pee your pants? You jump on the trampoline and you
pee your pants.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Okay, Like we'll deal with that, Like here's why you
pee your pants, and we're gonna go like, yes, we
have all those conversations, and we don't focus on necessarily
the diagnosis themselves.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We focus on optimizing the person and.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Really and I think that's what differentiates us from just
maybe your standard insurance. I got a referral from the
doctor to fix this, and not fully realizing like why
you need to fix that, or like why that's maybe
important for your future self in five years, who's gonna
go do.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
The iron Man? Like you know? And I think I
think that's the biggest differentiator.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I love that, and I think there's because then if
you just fix the incontinents.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Right, it's like Ora, you see you later, bye.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
But there's still all these other issues that might be
presenting as dysfunction that they don't even realize.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I can't tell you how many times I've had clients
come in and maybe.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
They're coming in for incontinence, but then when we dig
into it, there's actually X, Y, and Z also going
on because no one's are asked them those questions, right yea,
And so it's kind of putting together the whole picture
of the whole body piece.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
We can treat that. So yeah, I think that's a
huge differentiator.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And when you ask those questions, they don't even realize, like, oh,
that's actually something you could help me with. I thought
I was always gonna be gritting my teeth during sex.
Like I didn't realize that could actually feel good for me. Oh, Like,
it's not supposed to hurt when that happens.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, no, oh I sit for two hours my tail bump.
Should it hurt? Yeah? Oh yeah, no, no, that's not normal.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Oh okay, So but it's super common, and like we
see people with this kind of pattern and experience that,
so thank you for sharing, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And it's like and I think.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That just also gives people hope, but it also leads
me to like.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Women are just badasses. Right, Like we go and we
have babies.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And we experience like excruciating contractions and we our bodies
change crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
For nine months, or you deal with years and years.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Of infertility, and it's like this emotional pain and like
or you have menstrual pain since you're fourteen when you
start menstruating, and like pain is just almost ingrained and accepted.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And so people women especially and.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm sure you see this too when you talk to clients,
they don't tell you they have pain. Women do not
freaking identify with pain because they're so freaking strong, and
so they might say they have their discomfort.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Or it bothers them a little bit, but they're used
to that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Like they go five days a month with severe cramp
and can barely get out of bed. Yeah, they have
some pain or some discomfort, but it's like so many
but like you're stuck in bed, you know, or like
you're willing yourself to get out of bed, and it's
like the amount of what I'm I guess in Frannigan
Day is like the women just.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Like kind of take it and go. And I think
that's part.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's badass and like it's what we've had to do
as we've evolved. But there's also this bane of like,
so there's no research supporting how we can help women
with menstrual pain unless we give them birth control pills
and unless we decide that they need uterine oblasions and
then hysterectomies or endometriosis surgery. And it's like, holy cow,
(10:37):
like that's what we decided versus having like a more
holistic approach and like things that we can actually help
with as far as from a pelt floor a physical
therapy standpoint. So I don't even know your original question,
but I think you didn't even ask the question. I
was just responding to like this pain situation. And I
think so many of our clients just same thing. They
(10:58):
they don't even see themsels is having pain. So when
you start to ask them these questions and they realize like, oh,
I don't have to experience that, and my body can
feel this good, we're just unlocking like a different level
of their potential that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Will help society and all the beautiful.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, let's talk about that, because you just recently kind
of had that quote of if we can unlock women's
potentials like by making them feel good and their bodies
again like without pain, or maybe they're just functioning better like.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
What that does for their lives and society? Like yeah,
I mean I used to think it was a coincidence,
no joke.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I was like why, I would tell Devin, why does
every woman that come here they want to start their
own business or they want to start doing this for
other people?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And I was like, it's such like a virtuous thing too.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
It's never like a oh, I'm going to go, you know,
build something that doesn't affect anyone, you know, It's it's
always like contributing like massively to the world, like some
active service, right, some way to move society.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And yeah, and it's like everyone has like such.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Amazing contributions or like creative ideas after they would come
out of therapy and you're like or public ploor physical
therapy specifically, and you're like, wait, I was just working
on their public floor and like we and you're literally
when you work on when you have public floor work done,
and if you've never had it, I cannot suggest like
you need to have it because like it's that epic
and it it doesn't just free up your core and
(12:29):
give you a stronger core and protect your joints in
your future and save you joint replacements and bladder replacements,
because it does do all those things, but there's like
a way deeper level where it just unlocks your potential
like it does. And you know, when we get the
core functioning well, and we get your vodue well and
we get you feeling really good, there's just this element
(12:50):
of like, you can unlock your creativity, You can unlock
what you think is, you can more identify who you
are in your body. You can start to establish who
you are as your unique self. And when you decide
who you are as your unique self, and you really
truly like can get into that person, which a lot
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of people don't have the luxury or privilege of doing
because we're in this fight or flight, go go go,
and we feel like shit or we're barely hanging on
or it's just chaotic mom life, YadA, YadA, YadA. But
when you start to go into yourself and heal yourself
and fix yourself, it truly does unlock something inside of
you to go build your empire, to go build whatever
(13:33):
you want to contribute to this world, and like it
helps you to really get further in touch with yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I hope this is making.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Sense so that when you get further in touch with yourself,
you can truly decide, like and figure out what is
your reason for.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Being on this planet, what is your mission for being here?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Like why were you put on this planet? I can
go on and on about this. No, I love it.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's just it's so reallyateable because and for anyone listening
who's had any sort of pain, whether pregnancy, postpartum, perimenopause,
you that chronic like low.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Level pain just drains your energy.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You know. It's like then you have no energy left
door for your kids when you get home from work,
You have no energy to do anything fun on the
weekends with your friends because you're just trying to get
on top of this pain. You can't work out because
you can't take care of yourself, right, And so just
to like be able to fix that dysfunction and not
have that energy suck every single day. And I mean
I've had I had that for eighteen months postpartum, right,
(14:31):
and now it's like, oh, okay, I do want to
take that course for work or Okay, yeah, let's go
on a vacation.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I have the energy to maybe do a hike. You know.
It's just the amount of things that unlocks for your
quality of life I think is so huge. So yeah,
I love that so much.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Okay, so then tell me how, like, you know, taking
the vibe of the clinic, this unlocking like women's potentials
kind of your mission, and then how did you kind
of put that into your protocols that we have here,
you know, our birth prep, fertility, etc. But just in
general having a protocol at all for public florvieties.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So, as we grew the clinic and we brought on
more and more providers, it was really important to me that,
say Megan refers to her friend Brianna here, it was
important to me that Brianna got the same experience as
far as her birth prep goes. Obviously very individualized for
Brianna's body versus Megan's body. But if Megan had this
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really good experience and like she got the birth of
her dreams and you know, she prevented prolapse and did
all these things because of our protocols here who she
worked with here, I wanted that to translate to who
she was sending here. So that's why, I mean, that's
why we wrote the protocols. And also I couldn't I
could have a bigger impact than just keeping it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
All in my brain, right.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And I think after years and years and years of
like really threading together and like seeing these patterns and
people after people, you really come up with like, all right,
when people are pregnant and you give them X, Y
and Z, and you do it at these weeks through
your pregnancy and cover this in the first trimester, this
in the second, this in the third, they're gonna be
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set up for a really successful vaginal delivery or C section.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And so I think that's like, that's why we had
to put the protocols in place.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And I mean it's amazing because for me, it gives
me a peace of mind because I know that like
when my best friend comes here like for her pregnancy
and delivery, or when my sister in law comes here,
it's like I know that they're getting all of it,
you know, and you know it took years and years
and years to put these protocols together, and you know
(16:40):
you've been on the forefront. I think the fertility protocol
was developed when you were here, and so it's like,
as we've learned and seen hotterns change and see women evolve,
because women evolve and change, and what we're seeing in society.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Changes, right, we have to change.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And so our fertility protocols have definitely like evolved as well,
and I think only gotten hugely vastly better, especially with
our regenerative technology.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And so yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Mean we've done that in order to make sure that
people get the care that we want them to get
and so that they can get knocked up how we
you know, how they want to get knocked up, and
right what we can be on that journey with them,
and we want everyone to you know, it's very individualized
to everyone's body.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
But the framework, like you mentioned earlier when we were in.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
A previous conversation before this podcast, you were really like,
it's the framework of how we deliver the protocols because
really like every doctor has, every provider has their own autonomy,
right and how they're going to deliver it and and
everything like that.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But I think it's yeah, I hope that it doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, it does, and I think I love how as
a provider you're in for anyone who's not been to
our clinic.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
You know, we get to treat, we get to.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Bring our background into our treatment, right, Like we've got
people with different ortho backgrounds. You know, I have a
neuro background, and so we all kind of have our
different spin on how we treat, but our.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Foundations the same. And I think as a provider, it's
cool to.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Have that autonomy but also have a little bit of
a guideline and with these certain clients, like we kind
of know the drill for how we're going.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
To treat them. Of course we get those like random.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Like complex you know clients, and those ones are fun
because we can work together as a team to figure
out how we're gonna work with them.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But I just the ability to bring our own kind
of unique spin is really cool.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But also using your protocols don't Yeah, just a really
neat thing you've created. And then what to put you
on the hot seat here, But what would you say
if someone said, oh, hey, are.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Your protocols based on research? They're based on clinical research?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Perfect, yeah, one percent clinical outcomes and clinical research because
the reality is the first off, most reach research is
like the evidence don't necessarily support this right, don't necessarily
support this, you know, or like it's just so convoluted, right,
and it's hard, I think, especially with pelvic physical therapy. Okay,
(19:02):
so you're having them do key goals, you're having them
do all these other things. How can you pull out
what's actually working. So that's why I'm saying this is
years of clinical evidence, functional patterns and functional patterns and
and a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Of common sense.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think of, like what we know we need the
body to do, so the yeers can have a baby
and push the push the baby out of the body.
And so that's that's the evidence. That's the research. It's
really based on clinical clinical research.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And tell me about how like client feedback has kind
of helped with that too.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I Mean you hear clients say like, oh my gosh,
this worked. I've pushed my baby out in twenty.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Minutes or you know, now I'm able to run again
without pain or leaking.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Like hear those stories, right, and then you know like, well,
of course this is working then, right, Like it's not
just I treated them and then they never got better totally.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, it's still the well, like it still hits me,
especially with the first stories, like even like sea sections,
like these emergency se sections.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
They of course we can emergency se sections.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Clients will, you know, do our protocols and hope for
a vaginal delivery and like do everything they can to
show up for that vaginal delivery and what will happen,
Like there are certain things like a short quarter, like
the baby's not sending, like there are certain things that.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
We can't or the desils you know that we can't change,
or like a breach baby.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But a surgeon time and time again telling us that
our telling our clients that it was so easy to
get your baby out, like we didn't have to work
like we normally have to work to get this baby
out for a sea.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Section, time and time. Guess there's no research on that, right,
there's no research. Isn't research.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
There's not enough and I know there's more and more
coming on women's health hopefully, but there's just not enough
out there to say like this is this and this
is that in every single instancetry yeah, diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, it's going to take a hundred more surgeons saying
that though our clients for me to be like to
really hold on to it, because like even now, even
still with the vaginal birth. It's like it's an expectation,
to be honest with you, probably because we've had over
probably a thousand, you know, thousands of birth that like
at this point, like it's it doesn't blow my mind
(21:18):
necessarily when when my first time mom is like, I
have a ten pound baby and breathe my baby out
in two breasts, you know, yeah, with no tearing.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And so I'm like perfect, good.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Exactly what should have happened, you know, I'm like textbook good,
you know. And so it's like I still get super
I get the oxytocin hit every single baby that's born,
But like I that's almost an expectation, but it's taken
hundreds of births to get there, and so.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I think once once we got.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Into the upper hundreds, it made me feel like, Okay,
this is the serious thing that we're doing. This is
changing lives, like and this is making a world of
different it's for these birth outcomes. Right then then we
wrote the protocols. Cool, and yeah that I guess the
rest is history, But it still frustrates the shit out
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of me that it's not like research base per se.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And that's where it's like, I know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
A lot of pets, and a lot of clinicians and
a lot of doctors want to hold on to that
this isn't research base, but the reality is like it
the clinical outcomes are all there, right, and we've trapped
birth outcomes for a long long time.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And yeah, And I think the fact of the matter
is like when you have.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We have nurses, like some of our biggest population is
OE nurses, and it's because they see our birth outcomes.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And so then they travel.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Here from the east side, or they travel here from
way north end or from Seattle US or Doula's because
they're like, nope, we've seen your clients deliver.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Right, and they want that. We want that. Yeah, And
so they come here for the buying motion birth prep protocols.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And I mean that speaks volumes, especially when like obi's
and mid wives are like, no, you need to go here,
you know, it's like, oh, okay, I mean that's the
reason for the birth protocols.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
That's the reason for the protocols. Yeah, I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And coming back to the clinic and the team all
lottle bit what what are you most proud of when
it comes to the team.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Like you, Wow, you should I mean I have a
lot of faults.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I can get very big picture and I can move
really fast.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, and I love my people so hard.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And when we when I've hired everybody, like they were
the right vibe, the right fit, just freaking perfect and
like that realm.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But that takes continue nurturing.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And I love all my relationships with all our our teammates,
and like I mean, I I was late to our
initial meeting this morning. Site just had to like catch
up right with everybody here. And but that's not possible
if we don't have someone like consistently carrying the vibes,
which is you, like you are consistently here.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
To kind of keep the vibe. And I mean all
of our teammates bring it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
They could be having the shittiest thing happen at home
and you just wouldn't know it.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Like we hold space for all that, of course, but
they show up just like because.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
They know that they're changing the world, Like they are
changing the lives of people that are going on to
change the world, and like that act of service to
bring that to women every single day, like that fills
you up.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I literally was.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Just talking to doctor Victoria this morning, and she's like
she's so pumped to go to two days a week.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
She's increasing her hours.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
After having her first child, she came back at one
day a week, and.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
She has that flexibility. Find the way.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Everyone's curious, we're very flexible here, Yeah, because you want
to support everybody whatever they need, right, and like we
all thrive at different ways. But like one thing I
said to her is, I was like, you could be
working at j C. Pennies and you could get your
cup filled because you get to have all these conversations.
I was like, but it's like extra special because you
get to go and like change these lives now twice twice,
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two days a week, right, And she's like, yeah, it's
like that fulfillment you get from like seeing Bethany have
her first daginal delivery after a C section, Like you
did that, like you helped her get there. And it's
like that kind of fulfillment doesn't come Like I mean,
I'm sure it comes in other aspects.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And you would get very similar vibe somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
But like because of the fact that what we do
is so is an act of service, a true act
of service, It's like, I mean, it's so special.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I don't even know what the question was.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, it's a good and it's a even a good
reminder for me to hear you say all of that, because.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I remember I was before I made the Full.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Source to Woman's health and I read long story, but
moved off to the East Coast for night month, so
it was a travel fete there at a hospital, and
I just remember telling all the people I worked with,
They're like, oh, I just work with moms all day.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I just want to talk to moms all day. That's
what I want to do. Like, I just want to
switch to them my self so badly, and now that's
what they get to do.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
And like and that wouldn't be possible if you hadn't
have created this clinic and like this you know, dreaming position, right,
So it's pretty cool that not only are we getting
to serve and help improve you know, moms and other
women's quality of life, but like you've also helped improve
our life to where now I don't have to work
at the hospital, and I don't want to work at
because I get to be here.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So yeah, so like full circle. Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I was just thinking today when I was driving in Actually.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So I'm I'm off of a week of vacation not
coming into the clinic, And when I was on my
way in, it was like, I my hope for everyone is.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
That they have this exact same feeling coming back from vacation.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's like I want every single one of our employees
to be like, I'm so excited to go to work today,
Like I didn't have one ounce of dread, Like I
maybe don't want to respond to like all the emails
or you know whatever. But it's like but it's like
I could not wait to come get the vibes from
the people here, right, And it's like I'm not even
treating today, but it's like I get to come.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And when I found out you were going to be
here today, I thought this is gonna be hurt. I
was like, why are you so surprised from here? And
I'm like, I didn't know. I don't I'm not usually.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
We're recording this on Wendy and but like and like
even just to like see Devin and Tarn and like
it's like it is just so high, like to come
into work and feel like you make a difference and
like you want to be around people and like I
hope everybody's life.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Is equally as good on vacation as it is when
they come back into what they love to do and
what they get to do every single day, because it's
truly what we get to do, right, Like we get
to create the life.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
We want to create.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And you know, for me, this is a huge piece
of that. And I hope everyone who works your feels
that too.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
They do, they do, mean, I hear it all the time.
Everyone loves when you come in because obviously you're off
doing some other things to high level. And I know
everyone looks for like when DAW's gonna be here, and
love to get the little like.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Doctor Allison, you know, sprinkle every now and then too,
So okay. And then so what would you tell a
you know, maybe a new grad coming fresh out of
PT school there may be interested in public health but
a little nervous to like jump in or maybe they
know like hey, I'm want to go full force public floor.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Like what advice would you give them in.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Like maybe even treatment for the public floor, and just
like where to find mentorship?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
But also where where what to look for in a job? Yeah,
I mean look for a job that treats the whole person.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Look for a job where you can develop relationships not
just with clients, but with your you know, people around you.
I think that's what's so special. That's like one of
the biggest reasons I wanted to build a team. I
wanted support in validation. Initially for like everything I was seeing,
I'm like, is this you see this too?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And this really happened? Did she just yeah, exactly, And like.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
It was like so like to have those people around you,
it was so important. I feel really fortunate in my
career that I had extremely good mentors.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
That's where I learned so many of my tea and techniques.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
And it's like when I had mentors that practice felled
in Christ techniques and mentors that treated hyper mobility syndrome
and Elfstandel syndrome, and I had mentors that like just
had public floor physical therapy cuttings and to see all
the different things and be able to thread that into
like my practice and kind of create.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
My own little entity of what I did. It just
was all really really supportive, and especially in PET school.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I don't know what it is like now, but like
you know, we had two lectures on public floor physical therapy.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I think it's a little more so it's probably not
the most semester.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, right, And so like to know that you're getting
like the most top quality teaching and training, and anyone
that were on board here, it doesn't matter if you've
had twenty years experience or two or none. It's like
you we put them through training, like we all want
to make sure that our skills are just next level, right,
and like we can learn from you know, every clinician,
(30:14):
just like they can learn from us. Yeah, And I
think that's it's like the mindset of that just knowing
like we loved having a new grad that we recently
trained because it was like, oh yeah, like okay, tell
us what's new, like you know, and and then we
get to teach them all of our techniques and like
things that we've learned that work for our clients and
things that we've built into the protocols because they're just
that successful.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And so yeah, I think I think mentorship is huge, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And really truly making sure you're gonna get that mentorship.
And I that just obviously we all know that doesn't
happen really in an insurance based situation, just because we've.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Spent like a month training people and you know, so
MS a shorter, sometimes it's longer, but.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
It's all very skill based. If someone's not ready, then
we just are not setting.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Them fully free yet, right, Yeah, I'm not even training
on email and yeah, yeah, pretty pretty cool to have
that kind of one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
On one mentorship and support here. Yeah that's unique. Yeah yeah,
so I think.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I think that's good. And then really like we have
people like I think even when you started, it was like, well,
what was your education? Like, Okay, I took some NIOM courses,
I took some Hormon and Wallace courses.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But really it's like you can kind of take that education.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
You can take Herman and Wallace or APTA, And it's like,
but how are you gonna thread it into your own
practice and create something that's actually tangible for you to
get these to help people really truly unlock their potential,
you know. And I think that's where we've really tied
the d Like we've created a different a different thing here,
a different entity.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And if there's someone out there who is really like
a little bit interested in public health, that has like
a strong orth of skills and who loves ORTHO, would
you tell them, hey, still consider public floor or like,
m no, you're not gonna get as much worth though
in it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Your orthout patients will get ten times better if you
learn public floor physical therapy. Yeah, like, if you learn
how to read the pelvis and learn how to treat
the pelvis, you will understand that how much that knee plane,
that planner fash it is that hip pain is if
not rooted in the pelvic floor. The pelvic floor has
been a product of what's happened there too. So it's
(32:18):
like you were just such a better orthopt and every
single pelvic floor client, everyone has a velvet floor, everyone
has right, it's one hundred percent interrelated. And we are
we are orthopts, we are neural pets, and we are
pelvic pets. It is all one and the same because
we treat the entire system.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Do sports, you know, we're doing the return to.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Running up lift again and kind of how to help out.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Making sure I can hit my hockey games, making sure
you know the next person who can go to cross
bit and like or does go to cross it comes here,
rehab goes back to cross bit. Now we're not getting
post off new replacements or an ankle fusion or a
shoulder rotator cuff repair, although with a region we see
a little bit of that too, you know, but we like.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Everyone's an ortho client.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Every public floor client is an orthoplient, Like we're treating
some other part of their body as a piece of
what's happening in the pelvis too.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, what's a a It was a puma and our
position position. But tell me, you know, in neuro we
would also need really good orthoskills because it's still a
lot of manual joints, you know, with the.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Smesticity contractures all the neuro stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And that really hit me because I was like, Okay,
I shouldn't just ignore my orthoskills, right, like as you
get so neurofocused, and I think the same thing goes
for public floor, right, we can't just treat only the
public floor and like forget about all the.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Orthos stuff we've learned in school.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Like it really has to be combined because we are
treating the hip joint and then you joint, like you said, so, yeah,
I think that's really cool and just an exciting thing
to think about if you're a new grad, you know,
or you've been in a couple of years with ortho
and you're kind of interested in the public floor world.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
It doesn't have to be all or none, right, Like
you can do both. They will work well together. So
in some clients come in and we don't even treat
their public floor.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We're just treating them from a kind of women's health lens.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yes, but very worth of a focus. So absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah,
thank you for asking.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Okay, and then maybe final question, we'll see what is
your vision for body motion pt or just like public
floor rehab, like how do you want to see it change?
Like you know, let alone Edmund's Seattle area, and then
like even.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Just through the nation, like how do you what's your
vision for what pelfloor rehab will look like in five, ten,
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I mean I wish every single woman could experience
like true petty motion protocols, you know, I mean that's
my honest opinion. Like I wish my aunt Sally didn't
have to fly here from Chicago to like come get
her public floor worked on and like her hips picked
and her backs tuned up.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You know. Now, does she have some people that can
piece meal it in Chicago?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Sure, but like the difference in care when she here,
it's like it's just night and day, you know, and
like she has wonderful, wonderful providers. They just don't know
what we know, right, and so but we don't know
what they know. So like everyone has like beautiful platforms
where they come from. But I think how we've put
it together from a body motion perspective is so epic
(35:16):
that I can I like my dream of dreams would
be every single woman across this nation has access to
body motion protocols, truly and foremost, And like if we
could just get every single public provider and hopefully ten
times the amount of providers, because there is not enough
providers to service all the women that need help, and
every single woman deserves public floor physical there be even
(35:38):
if you don't think you need help. So it should
just be part of like maintenance care and like feeling
good in your body, just like you would go get
a massage. This should be that, right, because then you
are much stronger in your entire body. So if everyone
could have body motion protocols across the nation, I think
(35:59):
that would be the dream, right, because then you just
know you're unlocking so many women to go feel good
in their bodies and feel good all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Well, I mean, I think it's our bread and butter here.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And I talked to recently and of course to a
newer grad who's like, well, I just don't you know,
see as many public floor petis or pets clients as
you And I'm like, well, you're right, That's all I
treat all day long, is like people coming in for
a re public floor is function, even if there's other
things going on, And so it takes so much of.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
That seeing them day in and day out for weeks
and months to like you put you put the patterns
together almost faster, right, and.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You like learn how to treat the public floor even
faster than someone who's maybe at Insurance raceed clinic with
ORTHO coming in and then they maybe see two or
three clients a week who have public floor too. So
kind of a unique thing here where we can really
get to know the public floor faster and then treat
And if we could just get that to more people, right, So, like,
(36:56):
how do we get more people so that they can
also have the opportunity to treat more with floor clients.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And unfortunately, and I say unfortunately because I think this
is ingrained in us from when we're in school, like
when we're in grad school.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I think you think that your.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Effectiveness as a physical therapist is based on how quickly
can you get someone one and done with you?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Can you get them better in three sessions?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Like, sure, we can get some continent in three sessions,
if you know, if it's not super severe.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
But like the.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Reality is like that doesn't do shit, Like they're going
to be in continent again in three more months, you know,
because you didn't change any of their patterns or fix
any of their stuff and or teach them how to
maintain their public floor function.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And like everyone needs maintenance.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Like life isn't just like you know, peaches and buttercups,
Like we're constantly try I don't even know if that's
the same.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I think I just made that up.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Peach butter cups, but like we're constantly trying to create
a balance, right, Like you're always going to be walking
a little heavier on your right length and your left
like or vice versa. And like it's like just this
constant ebb and flow of balance, and like are you
training for something? Are you do you know, progressing your body?
You're like exactly, like there is just so much of
like maintaining that balance. That's like we don't look at
(38:10):
our successes like, oh, we've got this patient betteran two visits, Like, No, Like,
we want to make sure that like you feel good
in your skin three hundred and sixty five days a year, right, Like,
and when you feel good in your skin, like you
show up for yourself, you show up for your family,
you show up to this world in a different form
because you feel really good, and then you go spread
that joy and like that goodness to everybody else, right,
(38:32):
And like that's the evolution that we want to see.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's what we're trying to change.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
And like, and I think and that stems from the
mindset that's behind body motion parocols, And the mindset is prevention.
The mindset is we prevent those birth traumas, we prevent
having to you know, fix those birth trauma's postpartum.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Now there's trauma's trauma.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
And birth itself is trauma, right, and you have to
recover after you have birth. But like it's like the
prevention that is locked in and baked in to every
aspect of every single protocol. I think that's the mindset
and it stems from also it's selfish as buck, Like
I want to grow old to be a really healthy,
(39:12):
badass motherfucker on the ice at ninety. I want to
be that lady, you know. I want to be strong.
I want to be able to Like last night, I
got checked from behind and fell flat and this really
big guy fell on me and I got up and
I felt great, and I was just like and people
were like, oh my god, are you okay? And I'm
just like, yeah, I'm almost thirty nine. Yeah, I know
(39:33):
when I'm ninety okay. But like that's like, you know
what I mean, that's the like, so it is selfish
and like the fact that like I'm just trying to
do everything to optimize my body and trying to share
what's worked as well.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
And maybe you don't have.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Three hundred and sixty five days of like perfect pa
for you living right, but now you know exactly what
you need to do and you know you can come
in and get treated and then that's gonna help you
move on. So yes, just the education on that piece
of the main nance and meaning kind of constant.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Help with your public flo our sauces are so important
because I have my things, I have my pro lapse.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I have my SI pain that's from the patterns of
a knee surgery years ago. And it's like, I just
want to try and prevent that from being a hip replacement,
try and prevent that from being a bladder surgery, right,
so it becomes a bladder surgery, right, Okay, Now I
want to prevent myself from getting wheelchair status or diaperse status,
you know. And it's like, you're gonna have things. Everybody
has their things, and it doesn't mean you're a failure.
(40:28):
It just means that, like we get to continue to
balance because healing is optimization, optimization is healing.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
They're all one and the same.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So the more that we try to continue to progress
and like do everything for our wellness, like we're also
doing everything for our optimization, which will contribute to the world,
make it.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
A better place. You get it, love it, and we'll
kind of wrap up here. But I know, you know,
we are hiring here. I found motion, so we are
always here. We are now higher.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
So if any future us a listening to this podcast
or watching this on YouTube, what would you say to
them and like why they should join our team?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We just have it. I mean, our culture is magical obviously.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
I think we see, like my mission is that, like
you want to come to work, you love being here,
you love being with your family, and you love thriving
out of here and in here.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
And I think everyone that is a part of this.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Team is like just believes in women, believes in women's
health and women's optimization from like through and through, and
so there's like a constant pursuit of we're all trying
to like grow and become better people, right and beyond
this path to help other people do that same exact thing.
So yeah, I think if you fit that bill, apply
(41:46):
to join our team we have.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's just really sort link the job ad below.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
The job only apply if you're a licensed physical therapist
or physical therapy or want to move to Washington or
want to move to Siamo. Might we might help you.
We might help you. Yeah, no, great, Okay, that's a wrap.
Thank you so much for joining us on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Have a lovely day. Bye,
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