July 7, 2025 • 35 mins
It's easily one of THE most prevalent (and annoying) pregnancy symptoms: "morning" sickness. We'll walk you through our entire holistic midwifery protocol for easing nausea and vomiting that has helped women get relief and begin to feel like themselves again. Learn about supplements, herbs and lifestyle rhythms that can help you do the same!
00:00 Welcome to At Home with Kelly and Tiffany
01:09 Parenting Insights: Relaxing Expectations
03:43 Homeschooling Challenges and Reflections
07:41 Morning Sickness Protocol: Introduction
08:10 Listener Reviews and Feedback
18:35 Core Supplements for Morning Sickness
25:14 Additional Tips and Recommendations
34:14 Conclusion and How to Support Us
Links We Chat About
Our Weekly Newsletter
Our Childbirth Education Course, use code RADIANT10 for 10% off
Our Monthly Membership
Our Complete Morning Sickness Protocol
Episode 152: Preventing Common Pregnancy Discomforts
Episode 144: Holistic Miscarriage Support
Our Holistic Fertility Handbook
San Diego Homeschool Conference
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Tiffany (01:09):
You are back with the podcast at home with Kelly and
Tiffany.
I'm Tiffany,
Kelly (01:15):
I'm Kelly.
Tiffany (01:16):
and this morning Kelly, my question for you is, what is
something that you have recentlyrelaxed on in parenting?
Something that used to feelreally important to you, but
that you've recently been like?
Either I can't care about this,or I don't care about this, or
my opinion changed about feelinglike this is so important.
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Give us, give us what you got.
Kelly (01:42):
Yeah.
So I mean, I think if you hadasked me like 10 years ago, the
answer obviously would lookdifferent of what I was like
holding onto so tightly and thenwas like, okay, I just need to
like relax and let that go.
But currently I.
I would say the, the biggestthing, and I even like chat.
I, I was like, if I ask my kids,I have a feeling they would
probably say the same thing,because we homeschool, it's
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actually, it's like schoolrelated.
It is not that I'm relaxing onlike having them do schoolwork
necessarily, but my expectationof their interaction with their
schoolwork, their desire to dotheir schoolwork, their their
even like what they're good atand their abilities.
I've had a massive shift overthe last like couple years, but
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especially seeing as my olderkids are getting older, what
like they're really good at andwhat they really don't like and
stop trying to force the thingthat they don't like to be like
their thing, right?
We're outside of likeconventional school for a reason
and trying to fit the kids intothese molds of, well, you need
to be good at everything youneed to get, A's in all of these
classes, even if you hate it,well here's what we're, here's
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how we're gonna like manage thatkind of thing.
And so, not that we're not doingthe things, but my whole mindset
has really changed on how I'minteracting with these things
and figuring out what do youreally need to know what is
gonna help you in life?
And not that they couldn'tchange their thing, that they,
you know, they could not likesomething now and like it later.
(03:10):
I'm not trying to just like wipeit out and say, okay, then fine.
We're just not gonna do it.
But, yes, my expectation andjust viewpoint of school stuff
has, you know, been relaxingover the years and watching them
like become their own peopleoutside of me and my
expectations has actually beenreally good for me.
(03:31):
Both in my relationship withthem, but also just like my
assessment of what the heck weare doing with our lives anyway,
and why we're homeschooling andwho I want them to be and how I
can help them be well-roundedpeople.
All of it
Tiffany (03:46):
Yeah, I was talking with another homeschool mom
recently who's actually likeputting on a conference in our
area in San Diego in October.
I'll link the, I'll link that inour show notes'cause they asked
me to.
Come and speak at it.
And I was like, what the heck amI gonna talk about?
I don't even know.
I don't even know what we'redoing most of the time in
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homeschool.
And she's like, she's like, justtalk about the mistakes.
Just talk about all the mistakesthat you've made.
I'm like, yeah, easy peasy.
Okay.
I, I can talk the entireconference about all the
mistakes I've made, but in ho inhomeschool especially.
And I think it's like anythingwhere you're like, oh, this is
on me.
I'm the one driving the shiphere.
I have a lot of responsibility.
(04:28):
In this, but also with thatresponsibility comes freedom.
And I see that translated intoso many places in lives for us
as moms and women, like takingmore responsibility actually
does produce more freedom.
It feels scary, but as you getto know what it is that you're
going for and what you'relooking for, what you need and
(04:50):
what your kids need, you justcan step out in a different
boldness.
So this other mom was like,well, you know, you know, the,
the why that you homeschool, thereason for for homeschooling is
gonna be, you know, that's thethread that carries you through
your, you know, journey.
And I was thinking, I don'tknow.
I think my why is changing allthe time
Kelly (05:11):
Hundred percent,
Tiffany (05:12):
off of.
Yeah, totally.
Like the reason I startedhomeschooling is not at all the
reason that we have continuedhomeschooling, or if I had to do
it all over again, I would havea completely different why.
But I think it's just that wayin parenting in general and
navigating those ups and downs,feeling more comfortable.
I always laugh at like.
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Us giving my mom such a hardtime raising our youngest
brother, who is seven yearsyounger than me and just got a
whole different parentingexperience, which was like much
more hands off
Kelly (05:46):
hands off.
Tiffany (05:47):
general.
We were like, mom, where's allthe rules that you made us
follow?
She's like, I just thought itwas just a general waste of
energy and time for all of us,and so let him raise himself.
Pros and cons to that approachfor sure.
Kelly (06:02):
Yeah.
What, what's interesting too, asyou, as you, as I'm like,
looking back, thinking aboutthat question and the things
that I have thought that I'veheld, held onto really dearly
and then been like, oh, actuallythat's not important.
Or some things that are stillimportant are just as important,
right.
As day one.
It's, it's just interesting tothink about when I was a kid
looking at my parents thinking.
They have it all together.
(06:24):
Right?
Like, or just adults in general.
Like I remember thinking, oh,you're an adult.
You've figured it all out bynow.
Right?
And you just assume thedecisions that they make or the
things that are important tothem are for a reason and
they've learned more and all ofthat, right?
But as an adult parent now, I'mlike, oh, we're all just
figuring it out, right?
Like we're all growing.
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I'm ch I'm a different personthan I was even five years ago.
Right?
And so being able to say like,that's okay.
And lay down some things andpick up new things that that's
okay.
And it's okay if you're in aplace where you're like, huh, I
made a deci different decisionlast time, but I'm doing
something different now because.
I know something different.
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I feel something different.
I am a different person.
And like just being okay with alittle bit of that cognitive
dissonance of like, interesting.
I'm doing something differentthan I ever thought I would, but
that it's not necessarily bad.
Right.
I.
Tiffany (07:20):
Yeah, and I think we can translate that, and I'm sure
our listeners are getting readyfor the metaphor, right?
But I'm sure we don't have tolay out the metaphor.
Everyone can kind of just seehow.
That is an example of how wenavigate birth and choices in
birth in that early parentingthat we do in pregnancy and
postpartum and such.
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And I'm excited to get into thismorning sickness protocol of
ours.
It's a really hot topic.
I think it would take a longtime for us to unpack just
morning sickness in general,but.
Someone who is looking for helpwith morning sickness wants to
know exactly what to actuallydo.
And so that's why we're justsharing the protocol here today.
Some things to consider, somethings to add in for women who
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just want the quickestactionable steps on this really
common thing in pregnancy.
But before we jump in, I have areview to share.
You guys know we're trying tocatch up on these reviews over
the past year so that they don'tdisappear and are in the abyss
of where those reviews go.
I don't know if anybody knowswhere all the reviews end up.
(08:25):
I'd love to know.
I would like to go back and readsome of the old ones sometimes.
But this is from this is calledMy favorite podcast, so of
course we're going to read it onthe show.
And the, the handle for this,the handle for this lovely lady
is absolutely insane.
I don't know where, no, I thinkmaybe her toddler typed it in
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for her.
It'sC-M-C-M-C-M-M-C-C-M-C-M-C-M-C,
space M-M-C-M-C-M.
It keeps going.
I don't know what happens afterthe.dot.
Kelly (09:01):
It's, it's out with the other reviews somewhere out in
the cloud.
Tiffany (09:05):
Yeah, the rest of the handles it has, in the cloud.
Okay, so this is, this is whatthis lovely lady says.
After experiencing a miscarriageearlier this year under the care
of hospital midwives and feelingdeeply uncared for, I knew I
needed to find support and abetter plan for the next time
I'm pregnant.
I listened to a lot of podcastsabout pregnancy loss and birth,
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and became more open and curiousabout home birth.
When I discovered this podcast,I was totally hooked.
You guys are so funny.
There's almost no ads, and youshare so much really useful
information.
I cried listening to yourmiscarriage episode.
It was the only thing that mademe feel better about getting
pregnant again because it mademe feel confident that I could
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find a care provider that wouldmake me feel cared for should I
lose another pregnancy.
It really confirmed for me thatI need to see home birth
midwives the next time Iconceive, and I'm excited to try
home birth.
I'm currently working on gettingmy body into a good place to
conceive again, and I would bereally interested in a deep dive
on how to support healthy sperm.
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So she left a great review andthen threw in a quick little
request
Kelly (10:14):
some
Tiffany (10:15):
which for the.
Hm, some.
That's boy stuff.
I actually do have an episodeplanned at some point for men's
role in fertility.
That's just a topic that'sreally coming out with lots of
developing research andinformation.
And we might even have episodesbecause we've been podcasting
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for so long.
We might even have episodeswhere we say something like.
The majority of infertilityissues are do land on the woman,
and now, you know, we know.
I mean, I don't know if we wouldever come out and say that
necessarily, but throughout thecourse of several years we're
learning so much more, and so weshould.
We should share on some of that.
But for those of you who arelistening who are interested in
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that episode, we can put thatepisode in the show notes about
processing miscarriage.
That is just a resource that youdon't need until you're needing,
until you're needing it, andyou're right in the moment and
you just need to know what todo.
We also have a fertilityhandbook where we actually do
talk about men's role infertility, and we give a lot of.
Tips and examples and ideas forhelping your guy to contribute
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the best possible DNA to yourlittle baby.
And so we can put those in shownotes for ladies who are
listening.
Kelly, do you have anything elseyou wanna say on that, on, on,
on, in that space before we jumpinto our protocol?
Kelly (11:34):
Yeah, well, I mean that review, I mean, sometimes I'm
like, oh, that's like so sweet,but goodness gracious.
That is so important andimpactful and meaningful.
And I was like, man.
The way that we speak aboutthese things that women go
through.
Sometimes it's, we either golike super clinical or very like
ethereal and you know, give stugive like, recommend or
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encouragement that like doesn'treally hold any weight or help
really.
Right.
And so, I don't know, just beingable to share stuff like that,
like really, really matters.
And on the male fertility part.
Like, I just think it'sfascinating there's more
research coming out, but likethere's more, there's more that
we have to be really proactiveabout now too, just given that
research in terms of like wherewe see male fertility going in
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the future and how it's, I, myhand is up, but it's actually
way down.
And so yeah, I'm, as much as weare women's health experts, that
matters so much to.
female experience also and justour collective experience as a
society and world that is tryingto continue to procreate that it
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actually really does matter.
So I'm, I'm interested and likeexcited to kinda deep dive on
that.
Tiffany (12:46):
Yeah.
Can I take, can I sharesomething that just, I just
remembered that I, I'm reallylate to the game here, but we
just started a Handmaid's Tale.
Have you watched that show
Kelly (12:59):
I never
Tiffany (13:00):
or read the book?
Kelly (13:01):
Mm-hmm.
Tiffany (13:02):
so I was like, kind of warned off of it that it was
like extremely disturbing andupsetting and maybe, maybe I
wouldn't enjoy it.
But so many people told me notto watch it, that I'm like, and
I just saw it on Hulu and I waslike, I'm watching this.
It is, it is disturbing andcreepy, but it does absolutely
have some real life.
(13:25):
Fertility pieces, like some reallife ties and possibilities.
I can, we can't get into it.
I don't even know why I broughtit up.
I'm trying to process, I'mtrying to process what I've,
the, the content I've exposedmyself to.
We'll talk about it in anotherepisode because
Kelly (13:43):
great.
Tiffany (13:44):
I feel like we need to, I feel like we need to talk
about it.
Kelly (13:48):
Gotta unpack some things.
Tiffany (13:50):
We, we will unpack some things.
But those of you who have seenthe show who are listening, you
just know, you know where I'mat, started the show and I'm
like, I don't know about thisyou guys.
But I'm gonna keep watching.
Okay.
Morning sickness protocol.
We have lots of.
Things to share.
We're, we're, we're not saying,Hey, when you're feeling your
absolute crummiest at the worstpart of your pregnancy, what you
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need to do is go out and do andtake all these things.
What we're saying is here aresome options for you.
If you were our client, we wouldsay.
Thi this is the hardest hittingthat you can do, that's gonna
support yourself, that has thebest research backed for it,
that is gonna make the biggestimpact in helping you feel
better.
Let's create a plan and help youfigure out how to get these
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things in your body and, youknow absorb them and keep them
down.
But before we jump into thethings to take, I feel just
responsible as a midwife tomention a couple of things that
are more root cause.
So.
If you're listening to this nowand you are in the throes of
morning sickness, this might notbe the information that you
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need.
It might not be the time to goand try to figure out the root
cause of your morning sickness,but if you're listening to this
and you have a history ofmorning sickness or you women in
your family doing, you want totry to prevent it from
happening.
The things to pay attention to,just in general, coming into
pregnancy and having the bestexperience possible, you wanna
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be thinking about the realm ofpossibility, especially if
you're someone who has gottenvery sick in the past.
I.
To consider things like nutrientdeficiencies, to talk to
consider blood sugar regulation.
That's something that we harp onwomen all the time as they're
preparing their bodies forpregnancy.
For many reasons.
We wanna make sure that yourdetox pathways are open, so when
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those.
Big surge of pregnancy hormonescome on board in that first
trimester.
Your liver can process them andhelp them get out of your body
so they're not recirculating inyour, in your bloodstream.
Gut imbalances and digestiveissues are also linked to severe
nausea and bottoming in earlypregnancy.
Women who come into pregnancywith hormonal sensitivity or
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hormonal imbalance are atgreater risk for having morning
sickness.
Women with histamine intoleranceis something to pay attention
to.
It's just your body's generalinability to break down.
Certain, you know histaminereactions and responses and be
able to process thosemetabolically.
Thyroid can be something thatneeds to be checked on stress
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and cortisol dysregulation andsome genetic factors like
M-T-H-F-R, you guys have heardus talk about that.
That can cause increasedmethylation, which makes it
difficult for you to process andabsorb vitamins, really
important vitamins like vitaminB.
For pregnancy.
So things to be thinking aboutjust from a root cause
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perspective, because sometimesit's great to put the bandaid
on, great to take the pill forit.
Great to try to just patchthings up and move on.
But if there's an underlyingissue that's not addressed, that
could come up later in yourpregnancy too.
So just having an awareness, Ithink ladies.
Kelly (17:03):
Yeah.
And that's the gift of well, youknow, you can try to pivot and
do things once you find outyou're pregnant and you're
dealing with this, right.
And trying to, you know, supportthose things.
But the gift of like going intoconception thoughtfully when you
have the opportunity to do so.
Is so wonderful.
'cause those are all things thatwhen women come to us and are
like, I want to get pregnant inthe next six months or
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something, we're like, great,let's, let's be able to focus on
all of this stuff and reallywork on it and help.
Granted we don't have like amagic wand that, you know, takes
away all of the things, butbeing able to feel like I've
done everything I can to preparefor this is a really empowering
place to be, but also can reallyhelp your pregnancy feel so
much.
Easier in a lot of differentways coming from somebody who
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didn't plan on their thirdpregnancy.
And it was the hardest onepossible because I was just
playing catch up on all of thethings that I had thrown my body
out of whack into duringmidwifery school.
And so that's my littlerecommendation there too.
If you are able to think aboutthose things and think about
your family planning and talkabout those things so that you
can.
Kind of prepare that landscapeof your body, the, the best that
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you, the best that you can, soyou can actually really enjoy
more of your pregnancy than tryto play pickup along the way.
Tiffany (18:15):
Yes.
That is what it's all about,right?
Not all of us have the luxury,like you said, some pregnancies,
some, some pregnancies areunplanned.
Everyone should have the noveltyof one planned pregnancy in
their life.
I say it's just fun.
It's fun to plan one if you'veever had an unplanned one.
Okay.
We have three.
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We have three core supplementsthat women should really be
working hard on into theirbodies, and then we have some
additional options and such.
We're gonna go through thedosing protocol with you ladies
so that it gives you somecontext for how we would
recommend this to our ownclients.
But there is a link to our.
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The whole entire protocol in theshow notes.
And so you can just jump to theshow notes, click on the
protocol, it'll take you exactlyto the, professional supplement
dispensary where we put all ofour high quality vitamins and
supplements, and you can getthem for 25% off there.
And it's you.
You don't have to buy.
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You can just go look at theprotocol.
You can just go look at thesuggestions and buy them
someplace else.
If you can find them for abetter price, you absolutely
won't, but you can just enjoythe information.
Don't ha.
You don't have to buy yoursupplements there, but that is
where we're housing thisparticular protocol in full
script.
So those of you who arelistening can go and I don't
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know, I'm, I like listening tothings, but what I'm really
trying to keep track of details,I can, it's really hard for me
to hear and remember.
So I need to see it written downsomewhere.
Okay, first one is vitamin Bsix, and this dose is 25
milligrams two to three times aday.
So you wanna be looking at.
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Your prenatal that has anypotential B six in it.
You wanna be looking at any Bcomplex that you're currently
taking.
'cause that's a recommendationfor pregnancy too.
And you wanna make sure that youdon't exceed over a hundred
milligrams a day of B sixspecifically, but you wanna
really have these.
Three doses three times a day.
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We recommend B six because itjust has really good research to
reduce nausea, especially whenit's combined with other things.
So that's why we start with thisone B six is, just a part of
energy metabolism and just theregeneration of the cells in our
body and how mitochondriafunction.
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And so getting a lot of thisjust helps with that cell
turnover and helps with yourbody to create energy and detox.
Kelly (20:51):
So like you said, we're combining some of these things,
so you may try and be like, oh,I'm taking all this B six, what,
why don't I feel better?
Right.
We can, we can kind of messaround with bringing all of
these different things together.
The next one that wouldabsolutely be recommended in a
handful of different ways wouldbe ginger.
So ginger comes in a, you know,in like real form, right?
You can get ginger tea, you canget ginger capsules you can get
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ginger tinctures.
I mean, there's a milliondifferent ways that you can
consume it, but there's greatresearch about reducing nausea
and vomiting in pregnancy andalso just general inflammation
reduction.
And so this is a great one tojust have on hand for anybody in
your family, but a great one forsure.
If you are.
Dealing with morning sickness orI know we call it morning
sickness, it's just all day,right?
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Pops up at different times.
So any kind of nausea orvomiting in pregnancy, so.
You are gonna be looking to takeabout 250 to 500 milligrams when
you do take it.
And that can be up to threetimes a day.
So you can get on top of it,drink some ginger tea in the
morning to kinda wake up.
You can have a ginger candy.
They may, I mean, this is why somany of those like pregnancy
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related.
Nausea things include ginger,right?
Like the ginger candies and theprey pops.
All of that have ginger in itbecause there's real research,
right?
Showing that.
And you can kind of create thatsustainability throughout the
day of just kind of weaving itin.
You can also freeze some of it,right?
Toss it into some warm water atthe end of the night, things
like that.
So there's lots of ways that youcan include some of these
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things.
'cause some of them Yes, aregoing to come in capsules.
And that may sound like.
The death of you when you'refeeling nauseous.
And so if all you have areginger capsules or B six
capsules, right, you can alwaysopen them up and just get the
powder from the inside, put thatinside of something, right?
Some tea, a smoothie, somethingthat you can keep down or at
least feel somewhat palatable asyou are taking it.
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And just weave that in the bestthat you possibly can so that
absolutely would be one of thefrontline things that we would
recommend to our clients Forsure.
Tiffany (22:49):
Yep.
And then lastly on this corelist of supplements is magnesium
glycinate or magnesium lotion.
If again, having taking thingsorally is just like not your jam
right now, you can get yourmagnesium topically and.
Your body actually, when itbypasses digestion, your body
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can actually absorb quite a bit.
You just would need to use itseveral times a day.
In order to get the amount ofmagnesium we wanna do, 300 to
400 milligrams, probably dividedwould be best.
Having something mid-morning andthen again before bed, dividing
that into, you know, two dosesor so, and.
This supports digestion, itreduces anxiety, it causes any
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kind of muscle cramps orspasming that might be happening
in your digestive tract.
And just all around a reallygood supplement to be on for
your entire life.
And.
Well, I think women have a hardtime wrapping their head around
is it's good to get magnesium inoral supplementation.
It's good to get magnesium intopical application.
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It's good to get magnesium inyour food.
It's good to get magnesium inthe herbal nutrition teas that
you're drinking.
It's good to have all of thesedifferent.
Variety and, and ways of justhaving a mineral rich lifestyle
with magnesium, because ourbodies burn through it very
quickly every single day, butespecially when we're stressed,
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fatigued not sleeping well.
And all those things.
And so if you're experiencingsevere nausea and vomiting in
your pregnancy, you areabsolutely burning through your
magnesium.
So though the recommendation is300 to 400 milligrams per day,
you can easily bump that up toseven or 800 milligrams as long
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as you're working with thatglycinate.
Part of it, there are somemagnesiums that cause, other you
can overdo other types ofmagnesiums that actually are
gonna give you more GI symptoms.
But glycinate is really easy toabsorb, really easy to, for your
body to utilize for all of thesethings, and just is good, well
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rounded mineral to have onboard, especially for morning
sickness.
Kelly (25:09):
Yeah.
So those are like the three thatI would say if somebody was
like, eh, I'm struggling withthis.
We would be like, okay, trythese things.
Right?
But thankfully it's not theoptions out there.
Especially if you're likelooking through your cabinet
right now, your supplementcabinet, and you're like, Ooh, I
have two of those.
What else do I have in here thatmay be helpful?
One of the top ones.
It kind of goes back to thislike mineral rich lifestyle.
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That's like my, I wanna lookthrough that hashtag I'm, I like
this idea.
But if you have electrolytes onhand or want to go purchase
some, that's a great way.
I.
To help with lots of extrahydration in your body,
especially if you are somebodywho, like, when you feel
nauseous or whatever, thatyou're consistently kind of
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vomiting.
It's a great way to helprehydrate your body.
That is going to give kind ofthis whole body like
revitalization more so than I.
just water, right?
So the issue with someelectrolytes is that there's not
really they may look good ontheir packaging, but they have a
bunch of added sugar orartificial dyes to make them
look a certain way, right?
(26:13):
So just opting for like theclean kind of pregnancy safe
electrolyte powders is going tobe probably your best bet as you
kind of.
Are choosing something to put inyour body that's designed to
help it rather than add an extralayer of work that your liver
and your body have to do to kindof detox from it.
But that electrolytes and Ithink just in general, it's a
great one to have on handthroughout pregnancy just
(26:35):
because it sort of is a littlebuffer in terms of hydration and
mineral support too.
Tiffany (26:41):
Yeah, and if you wanna be like, I'm gonna, I'm saying
be lazy with it, but only in thesense like lazy, that you don't
wanna buy an extra thing.
But this is actually more work.
You can make your ownelectrolyte drink with a pinch
of sea salt and some lemon juiceand you know, a little bit of
cream of tar, tar.
(27:02):
I mean, there's so many recipesonline that you can, you can
make your own.
So if you wanna be.
Cheap.
Maybe that's what I mean.
If you wanna be cheap, make ityourself.
If you wanna be lazy, you can,you can buy one.
And we're always being asked forour recommendations on these
because I think women recognizethat there's a lot of
opportunity for additives.
So again, you guys can find thaton the full script protocol.
(27:24):
I.
And the next one is enjoyingdigestive bitters or lemon balm
tea.
And these, these two options, Imean, lemon balm is an herb.
It has its own beautifulmechanism for toning the nervous
system and helping with anxiety.
Often that is something that'saccompanying feeling nauseous
(27:46):
for days and days on end.
And.
But what they both do is theysupport bile flow and digestion,
and that can really be theticket for women.
Sometimes they just need thatencouragement for bile flow to
come and help bring all of thetoxins from the the.
(28:06):
Circulate from your bloodcirculation and move it into
your digestive tract forelimination.
And bile is really good at that.
We recommend starting with atiny dose of these digestive
bitters that can be found in,tincture form or capsules or you
can make teas, but doing just alittle bit before each meal and
(28:26):
kind of playing around with thata little bit, getting that bile
flow to surge while you'reeating.
Help your food digest and thensee if that has an effect on
your nausea the next day.
Kelly (28:38):
Yeah, and it's, I, I always thought, like, in my
head, the, the words digestivebitters just sounds I'm like, I
don't wanna do that.
That sounds gross.
Not nearly as gross.
And actually some of them are,are somewhat tasty.
So don't let that make youafraid to try if you're
interested in trying, like allof these different options.
The next one, you, you mayalready have.
Sitting around your homealready, but it would be
(28:59):
different parts of aromatherapyin particular.
Essential oils are wonderful'cause they're just like quick
ways to be able to enjoy this.
But in the family of mint orcitrus are great at helping.
We actually always keep those inour birth bags too.
For moms who are feelingnauseous.
And during labor itself.
And so smelling some of thosereally fresh scents can really
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calm nausea almost, almostimmediately in some situations.
And so what we will do is keep,you know, lemon, peppermint,
those oils nearby.
And an easy way, you can drop itin your hand, rub it together,
and kind of like, you know, putyour hands in front of your nose
and just deeply breathe in.
You can put it on a, like alittle Kleenex, sniff that for a
(29:43):
little bit.
Put it off to the side, sniff itwhen you need to open the
bottle, literally, and justsniff it from right there.
Put it on your wrists.
Something like that, right?
So that you have easy access toit.
It sounds kind of strange, butit's one of the tools that we
have to help, especially beforeyou get to that vomiting part
where you're just like, Ooh,this morning may not be the
(30:05):
morning for me.
Right.
You're getting out of bed orsomething, or you're starting to
feel it creep up.
This is a great one to helpbring in just for extra support
to kind of.
you over as you are consideringwhat your body is gonna do with
you're feeling.
It may be just enough for you tosmell it, kind of calm your
system down a little bit andthen go grab a snack or
something too that can kind oflift you over some of that.
(30:27):
Nausea and discomfort.
Tiffany (30:29):
Yeah, and there's so many tips that you can find in
so many different places aboutlike how to get food on board,
how to stabilize blood sugar,how to you know, use protein,
how to I.
You know, just deal with that,that food piece of it.
That is absolutely worth doing alittle bit of research on
(30:51):
because turning the cornerreally right?
Getting, getting women to turnthe corner and sometimes that
aromatherapy can keep you fromvomiting again, just long enough
that you can get up and go makethat.
You know, protein smoothie foryourself real quick and turn the
corner on the day.
Sometimes it's just, I mean,like you said, open, just open
(31:13):
the bottle.
Like when my kids are havingtummy troubles, like they don't
want it on themselves or onanything, they just take the cap
off and just smell the cap.
Just so helpful.
And then lastly in this thisadditional section of things to,
you know, kind of to consideradding in and, and making a part
(31:33):
of the picture is probiotics.
And of course, we're getting somuch information lately about
how important the gut anddigestive tract is and the good
flora there and the balance andall of those things when you are
not feeling your.
Best when you are not eatingyour normal foods, when you have
a lot of digestive upset, likevomiting, when your stomach is
(31:56):
just unsettled, that you're justgoing to be imbalanced
digestively, and I'm not sayingthat to make women feel even
worse about their situation, butwhen you feel like you can
tolerate adding some more thingsin, probiotics should be at the
top of the list for justrestoring that.
And sometimes there's some,there's some great strains out
(32:18):
there.
That sometimes just actuallyimprove the symptoms right away.
And one of those that's reallywell studied for morning
sickness symptoms specificallyis lactobacillus renos.
And you guys will see that onour protocol too.
So if you're gonna go to grabanything, look for that strand
(32:38):
so that you can see if that'sthe ticket, if that's the, you
know, one little key that'sgonna switch over to helping you
get over the hump and help youfeel better.
Kelly (32:48):
Yeah.
So those are like our, our, ourbig hitters in terms of
recommendations to notnecessarily put a bandaid on,
but to include and to weave intoand support yourself as you are
working through something thatcan be really debilitating.
It can go anywhere from, like,this is a mild annoyance to this
is changing my entire life and Ineed some help here.
So if you go into our shownotes, like we mentioned, you
(33:09):
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here and brands that we love.
Again, always 25% off MSRP, sothat is a great place to get any
supplements of this or beyond.
We'll link another podcastepisode also where we jump into
both morning sickness, but alsoa bunch of other, just annoying
you know, complications and, andissues and discomforts that come
(33:30):
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And then we will also, you'llfind in there like the fertility
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Tiffany (01:09):
You are back with the podcast at home with Kelly and
Tiffany.
I'm Tiffany,
Kelly (01:15):
I'm Kelly.
Tiffany (01:16):
and this morning Kelly, my question for you is, what is
something that you have recentlyrelaxed on in parenting?
Something that used to feelreally important to you, but
that you've recently been like?
Either I can't care about this,or I don't care about this, or
my opinion changed about feelinglike this is so important.
(01:40):
Give us, give us what you got.
Kelly (01:42):
Yeah.
So I mean, I think if you hadasked me like 10 years ago, the
answer obviously would lookdifferent of what I was like
holding onto so tightly and thenwas like, okay, I just need to
like relax and let that go.
But currently I.
I would say the, the biggestthing, and I even like chat.
I, I was like, if I ask my kids,I have a feeling they would
probably say the same thing,because we homeschool, it's
(02:06):
actually, it's like schoolrelated.
It is not that I'm relaxing onlike having them do schoolwork
necessarily, but my expectationof their interaction with their
schoolwork, their desire to dotheir schoolwork, their their
even like what they're good atand their abilities.
I've had a massive shift overthe last like couple years, but
(02:26):
especially seeing as my olderkids are getting older, what
like they're really good at andwhat they really don't like and
stop trying to force the thingthat they don't like to be like
their thing, right?
We're outside of likeconventional school for a reason
and trying to fit the kids intothese molds of, well, you need
to be good at everything youneed to get, A's in all of these
classes, even if you hate it,well here's what we're, here's
(02:49):
how we're gonna like manage thatkind of thing.
And so, not that we're not doingthe things, but my whole mindset
has really changed on how I'minteracting with these things
and figuring out what do youreally need to know what is
gonna help you in life?
And not that they couldn'tchange their thing, that they,
you know, they could not likesomething now and like it later.
(03:10):
I'm not trying to just like wipeit out and say, okay, then fine.
We're just not gonna do it.
But, yes, my expectation andjust viewpoint of school stuff
has, you know, been relaxingover the years and watching them
like become their own peopleoutside of me and my
expectations has actually beenreally good for me.
(03:31):
Both in my relationship withthem, but also just like my
assessment of what the heck weare doing with our lives anyway,
and why we're homeschooling andwho I want them to be and how I
can help them be well-roundedpeople.
All of it
Tiffany (03:46):
Yeah, I was talking with another homeschool mom
recently who's actually likeputting on a conference in our
area in San Diego in October.
I'll link the, I'll link that inour show notes'cause they asked
me to.
Come and speak at it.
And I was like, what the heck amI gonna talk about?
I don't even know.
I don't even know what we'redoing most of the time in
(04:07):
homeschool.
And she's like, she's like, justtalk about the mistakes.
Just talk about all the mistakesthat you've made.
I'm like, yeah, easy peasy.
Okay.
I, I can talk the entireconference about all the
mistakes I've made, but in ho inhomeschool especially.
And I think it's like anythingwhere you're like, oh, this is
on me.
I'm the one driving the shiphere.
I have a lot of responsibility.
(04:28):
In this, but also with thatresponsibility comes freedom.
And I see that translated intoso many places in lives for us
as moms and women, like takingmore responsibility actually
does produce more freedom.
It feels scary, but as you getto know what it is that you're
going for and what you'relooking for, what you need and
(04:50):
what your kids need, you justcan step out in a different
boldness.
So this other mom was like,well, you know, you know, the,
the why that you homeschool, thereason for for homeschooling is
gonna be, you know, that's thethread that carries you through
your, you know, journey.
And I was thinking, I don'tknow.
I think my why is changing allthe time
Kelly (05:11):
Hundred percent,
Tiffany (05:12):
off of.
Yeah, totally.
Like the reason I startedhomeschooling is not at all the
reason that we have continuedhomeschooling, or if I had to do
it all over again, I would havea completely different why.
But I think it's just that wayin parenting in general and
navigating those ups and downs,feeling more comfortable.
I always laugh at like.
(05:33):
Us giving my mom such a hardtime raising our youngest
brother, who is seven yearsyounger than me and just got a
whole different parentingexperience, which was like much
more hands off
Kelly (05:46):
hands off.
Tiffany (05:47):
general.
We were like, mom, where's allthe rules that you made us
follow?
She's like, I just thought itwas just a general waste of
energy and time for all of us,and so let him raise himself.
Pros and cons to that approachfor sure.
Kelly (06:02):
Yeah.
What, what's interesting too, asyou, as you, as I'm like,
looking back, thinking aboutthat question and the things
that I have thought that I'veheld, held onto really dearly
and then been like, oh, actuallythat's not important.
Or some things that are stillimportant are just as important,
right.
As day one.
It's, it's just interesting tothink about when I was a kid
looking at my parents thinking.
They have it all together.
(06:24):
Right?
Like, or just adults in general.
Like I remember thinking, oh,you're an adult.
You've figured it all out bynow.
Right?
And you just assume thedecisions that they make or the
things that are important tothem are for a reason and
they've learned more and all ofthat, right?
But as an adult parent now, I'mlike, oh, we're all just
figuring it out, right?
Like we're all growing.
(06:44):
I'm ch I'm a different personthan I was even five years ago.
Right?
And so being able to say like,that's okay.
And lay down some things andpick up new things that that's
okay.
And it's okay if you're in aplace where you're like, huh, I
made a deci different decisionlast time, but I'm doing
something different now because.
I know something different.
(07:05):
I feel something different.
I am a different person.
And like just being okay with alittle bit of that cognitive
dissonance of like, interesting.
I'm doing something differentthan I ever thought I would, but
that it's not necessarily bad.
Right.
I.
Tiffany (07:20):
Yeah, and I think we can translate that, and I'm sure
our listeners are getting readyfor the metaphor, right?
But I'm sure we don't have tolay out the metaphor.
Everyone can kind of just seehow.
That is an example of how wenavigate birth and choices in
birth in that early parentingthat we do in pregnancy and
postpartum and such.
(07:41):
And I'm excited to get into thismorning sickness protocol of
ours.
It's a really hot topic.
I think it would take a longtime for us to unpack just
morning sickness in general,but.
Someone who is looking for helpwith morning sickness wants to
know exactly what to actuallydo.
And so that's why we're justsharing the protocol here today.
Some things to consider, somethings to add in for women who
(08:04):
just want the quickestactionable steps on this really
common thing in pregnancy.
But before we jump in, I have areview to share.
You guys know we're trying tocatch up on these reviews over
the past year so that they don'tdisappear and are in the abyss
of where those reviews go.
I don't know if anybody knowswhere all the reviews end up.
(08:25):
I'd love to know.
I would like to go back and readsome of the old ones sometimes.
But this is from this is calledMy favorite podcast, so of
course we're going to read it onthe show.
And the, the handle for this,the handle for this lovely lady
is absolutely insane.
I don't know where, no, I thinkmaybe her toddler typed it in
(08:49):
for her.
It'sC-M-C-M-C-M-M-C-C-M-C-M-C-M-C,
space M-M-C-M-C-M.
It keeps going.
I don't know what happens afterthe.dot.
Kelly (09:01):
It's, it's out with the other reviews somewhere out in
the cloud.
Tiffany (09:05):
Yeah, the rest of the handles it has, in the cloud.
Okay, so this is, this is whatthis lovely lady says.
After experiencing a miscarriageearlier this year under the care
of hospital midwives and feelingdeeply uncared for, I knew I
needed to find support and abetter plan for the next time
I'm pregnant.
I listened to a lot of podcastsabout pregnancy loss and birth,
(09:27):
and became more open and curiousabout home birth.
When I discovered this podcast,I was totally hooked.
You guys are so funny.
There's almost no ads, and youshare so much really useful
information.
I cried listening to yourmiscarriage episode.
It was the only thing that mademe feel better about getting
pregnant again because it mademe feel confident that I could
(09:47):
find a care provider that wouldmake me feel cared for should I
lose another pregnancy.
It really confirmed for me thatI need to see home birth
midwives the next time Iconceive, and I'm excited to try
home birth.
I'm currently working on gettingmy body into a good place to
conceive again, and I would bereally interested in a deep dive
on how to support healthy sperm.
(10:07):
So she left a great review andthen threw in a quick little
request
Kelly (10:14):
some
Tiffany (10:15):
which for the.
Hm, some.
That's boy stuff.
I actually do have an episodeplanned at some point for men's
role in fertility.
That's just a topic that'sreally coming out with lots of
developing research andinformation.
And we might even have episodesbecause we've been podcasting
(10:35):
for so long.
We might even have episodeswhere we say something like.
The majority of infertilityissues are do land on the woman,
and now, you know, we know.
I mean, I don't know if we wouldever come out and say that
necessarily, but throughout thecourse of several years we're
learning so much more, and so weshould.
We should share on some of that.
But for those of you who arelistening who are interested in
(10:57):
that episode, we can put thatepisode in the show notes about
processing miscarriage.
That is just a resource that youdon't need until you're needing,
until you're needing it, andyou're right in the moment and
you just need to know what todo.
We also have a fertilityhandbook where we actually do
talk about men's role infertility, and we give a lot of.
Tips and examples and ideas forhelping your guy to contribute
(11:21):
the best possible DNA to yourlittle baby.
And so we can put those in shownotes for ladies who are
listening.
Kelly, do you have anything elseyou wanna say on that, on, on,
on, in that space before we jumpinto our protocol?
Kelly (11:34):
Yeah, well, I mean that review, I mean, sometimes I'm
like, oh, that's like so sweet,but goodness gracious.
That is so important andimpactful and meaningful.
And I was like, man.
The way that we speak aboutthese things that women go
through.
Sometimes it's, we either golike super clinical or very like
ethereal and you know, give stugive like, recommend or
(11:57):
encouragement that like doesn'treally hold any weight or help
really.
Right.
And so, I don't know, just beingable to share stuff like that,
like really, really matters.
And on the male fertility part.
Like, I just think it'sfascinating there's more
research coming out, but likethere's more, there's more that
we have to be really proactiveabout now too, just given that
research in terms of like wherewe see male fertility going in
(12:21):
the future and how it's, I, myhand is up, but it's actually
way down.
And so yeah, I'm, as much as weare women's health experts, that
matters so much to.
female experience also and justour collective experience as a
society and world that is tryingto continue to procreate that it
(12:41):
actually really does matter.
So I'm, I'm interested and likeexcited to kinda deep dive on
that.
Tiffany (12:46):
Yeah.
Can I take, can I sharesomething that just, I just
remembered that I, I'm reallylate to the game here, but we
just started a Handmaid's Tale.
Have you watched that show
Kelly (12:59):
I never
Tiffany (13:00):
or read the book?
Kelly (13:01):
Mm-hmm.
Tiffany (13:02):
so I was like, kind of warned off of it that it was
like extremely disturbing andupsetting and maybe, maybe I
wouldn't enjoy it.
But so many people told me notto watch it, that I'm like, and
I just saw it on Hulu and I waslike, I'm watching this.
It is, it is disturbing andcreepy, but it does absolutely
have some real life.
(13:25):
Fertility pieces, like some reallife ties and possibilities.
I can, we can't get into it.
I don't even know why I broughtit up.
I'm trying to process, I'mtrying to process what I've,
the, the content I've exposedmyself to.
We'll talk about it in anotherepisode because
Kelly (13:43):
great.
Tiffany (13:44):
I feel like we need to, I feel like we need to talk
about it.
Kelly (13:48):
Gotta unpack some things.
Tiffany (13:50):
We, we will unpack some things.
But those of you who have seenthe show who are listening, you
just know, you know where I'mat, started the show and I'm
like, I don't know about thisyou guys.
But I'm gonna keep watching.
Okay.
Morning sickness protocol.
We have lots of.
Things to share.
We're, we're, we're not saying,Hey, when you're feeling your
absolute crummiest at the worstpart of your pregnancy, what you
(14:12):
need to do is go out and do andtake all these things.
What we're saying is here aresome options for you.
If you were our client, we wouldsay.
Thi this is the hardest hittingthat you can do, that's gonna
support yourself, that has thebest research backed for it,
that is gonna make the biggestimpact in helping you feel
better.
Let's create a plan and help youfigure out how to get these
(14:34):
things in your body and, youknow absorb them and keep them
down.
But before we jump into thethings to take, I feel just
responsible as a midwife tomention a couple of things that
are more root cause.
So.
If you're listening to this nowand you are in the throes of
morning sickness, this might notbe the information that you
(14:55):
need.
It might not be the time to goand try to figure out the root
cause of your morning sickness,but if you're listening to this
and you have a history ofmorning sickness or you women in
your family doing, you want totry to prevent it from
happening.
The things to pay attention to,just in general, coming into
pregnancy and having the bestexperience possible, you wanna
(15:17):
be thinking about the realm ofpossibility, especially if
you're someone who has gottenvery sick in the past.
I.
To consider things like nutrientdeficiencies, to talk to
consider blood sugar regulation.
That's something that we harp onwomen all the time as they're
preparing their bodies forpregnancy.
For many reasons.
We wanna make sure that yourdetox pathways are open, so when
(15:40):
those.
Big surge of pregnancy hormonescome on board in that first
trimester.
Your liver can process them andhelp them get out of your body
so they're not recirculating inyour, in your bloodstream.
Gut imbalances and digestiveissues are also linked to severe
nausea and bottoming in earlypregnancy.
Women who come into pregnancywith hormonal sensitivity or
(16:02):
hormonal imbalance are atgreater risk for having morning
sickness.
Women with histamine intoleranceis something to pay attention
to.
It's just your body's generalinability to break down.
Certain, you know histaminereactions and responses and be
able to process thosemetabolically.
Thyroid can be something thatneeds to be checked on stress
(16:25):
and cortisol dysregulation andsome genetic factors like
M-T-H-F-R, you guys have heardus talk about that.
That can cause increasedmethylation, which makes it
difficult for you to process andabsorb vitamins, really
important vitamins like vitaminB.
For pregnancy.
So things to be thinking aboutjust from a root cause
(16:46):
perspective, because sometimesit's great to put the bandaid
on, great to take the pill forit.
Great to try to just patchthings up and move on.
But if there's an underlyingissue that's not addressed, that
could come up later in yourpregnancy too.
So just having an awareness, Ithink ladies.
Kelly (17:03):
Yeah.
And that's the gift of well, youknow, you can try to pivot and
do things once you find outyou're pregnant and you're
dealing with this, right.
And trying to, you know, supportthose things.
But the gift of like going intoconception thoughtfully when you
have the opportunity to do so.
Is so wonderful.
'cause those are all things thatwhen women come to us and are
like, I want to get pregnant inthe next six months or
(17:24):
something, we're like, great,let's, let's be able to focus on
all of this stuff and reallywork on it and help.
Granted we don't have like amagic wand that, you know, takes
away all of the things, butbeing able to feel like I've
done everything I can to preparefor this is a really empowering
place to be, but also can reallyhelp your pregnancy feel so
much.
Easier in a lot of differentways coming from somebody who
(17:46):
didn't plan on their thirdpregnancy.
And it was the hardest onepossible because I was just
playing catch up on all of thethings that I had thrown my body
out of whack into duringmidwifery school.
And so that's my littlerecommendation there too.
If you are able to think aboutthose things and think about
your family planning and talkabout those things so that you
can.
Kind of prepare that landscapeof your body, the, the best that
(18:09):
you, the best that you can, soyou can actually really enjoy
more of your pregnancy than tryto play pickup along the way.
Tiffany (18:15):
Yes.
That is what it's all about,right?
Not all of us have the luxury,like you said, some pregnancies,
some, some pregnancies areunplanned.
Everyone should have the noveltyof one planned pregnancy in
their life.
I say it's just fun.
It's fun to plan one if you'veever had an unplanned one.
Okay.
We have three.
(18:36):
We have three core supplementsthat women should really be
working hard on into theirbodies, and then we have some
additional options and such.
We're gonna go through thedosing protocol with you ladies
so that it gives you somecontext for how we would
recommend this to our ownclients.
But there is a link to our.
(18:56):
The whole entire protocol in theshow notes.
And so you can just jump to theshow notes, click on the
protocol, it'll take you exactlyto the, professional supplement
dispensary where we put all ofour high quality vitamins and
supplements, and you can getthem for 25% off there.
And it's you.
You don't have to buy.
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You can just go look at theprotocol.
You can just go look at thesuggestions and buy them
someplace else.
If you can find them for abetter price, you absolutely
won't, but you can just enjoythe information.
Don't ha.
You don't have to buy yoursupplements there, but that is
where we're housing thisparticular protocol in full
script.
So those of you who arelistening can go and I don't
(19:38):
know, I'm, I like listening tothings, but what I'm really
trying to keep track of details,I can, it's really hard for me
to hear and remember.
So I need to see it written downsomewhere.
Okay, first one is vitamin Bsix, and this dose is 25
milligrams two to three times aday.
So you wanna be looking at.
(20:00):
Your prenatal that has anypotential B six in it.
You wanna be looking at any Bcomplex that you're currently
taking.
'cause that's a recommendationfor pregnancy too.
And you wanna make sure that youdon't exceed over a hundred
milligrams a day of B sixspecifically, but you wanna
really have these.
Three doses three times a day.
(20:20):
We recommend B six because itjust has really good research to
reduce nausea, especially whenit's combined with other things.
So that's why we start with thisone B six is, just a part of
energy metabolism and just theregeneration of the cells in our
body and how mitochondriafunction.
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And so getting a lot of thisjust helps with that cell
turnover and helps with yourbody to create energy and detox.
Kelly (20:51):
So like you said, we're combining some of these things,
so you may try and be like, oh,I'm taking all this B six, what,
why don't I feel better?
Right.
We can, we can kind of messaround with bringing all of
these different things together.
The next one that wouldabsolutely be recommended in a
handful of different ways wouldbe ginger.
So ginger comes in a, you know,in like real form, right?
You can get ginger tea, you canget ginger capsules you can get
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ginger tinctures.
I mean, there's a milliondifferent ways that you can
consume it, but there's greatresearch about reducing nausea
and vomiting in pregnancy andalso just general inflammation
reduction.
And so this is a great one tojust have on hand for anybody in
your family, but a great one forsure.
If you are.
Dealing with morning sickness orI know we call it morning
sickness, it's just all day,right?
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Pops up at different times.
So any kind of nausea orvomiting in pregnancy, so.
You are gonna be looking to takeabout 250 to 500 milligrams when
you do take it.
And that can be up to threetimes a day.
So you can get on top of it,drink some ginger tea in the
morning to kinda wake up.
You can have a ginger candy.
They may, I mean, this is why somany of those like pregnancy
(21:54):
related.
Nausea things include ginger,right?
Like the ginger candies and theprey pops.
All of that have ginger in itbecause there's real research,
right?
Showing that.
And you can kind of create thatsustainability throughout the
day of just kind of weaving itin.
You can also freeze some of it,right?
Toss it into some warm water atthe end of the night, things
like that.
So there's lots of ways that youcan include some of these
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things.
'cause some of them Yes, aregoing to come in capsules.
And that may sound like.
The death of you when you'refeeling nauseous.
And so if all you have areginger capsules or B six
capsules, right, you can alwaysopen them up and just get the
powder from the inside, put thatinside of something, right?
Some tea, a smoothie, somethingthat you can keep down or at
least feel somewhat palatable asyou are taking it.
(22:39):
And just weave that in the bestthat you possibly can so that
absolutely would be one of thefrontline things that we would
recommend to our clients Forsure.
Tiffany (22:49):
Yep.
And then lastly on this corelist of supplements is magnesium
glycinate or magnesium lotion.
If again, having taking thingsorally is just like not your jam
right now, you can get yourmagnesium topically and.
Your body actually, when itbypasses digestion, your body
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can actually absorb quite a bit.
You just would need to use itseveral times a day.
In order to get the amount ofmagnesium we wanna do, 300 to
400 milligrams, probably dividedwould be best.
Having something mid-morning andthen again before bed, dividing
that into, you know, two dosesor so, and.
This supports digestion, itreduces anxiety, it causes any
(23:34):
kind of muscle cramps orspasming that might be happening
in your digestive tract.
And just all around a reallygood supplement to be on for
your entire life.
And.
Well, I think women have a hardtime wrapping their head around
is it's good to get magnesium inoral supplementation.
It's good to get magnesium intopical application.
(23:56):
It's good to get magnesium inyour food.
It's good to get magnesium inthe herbal nutrition teas that
you're drinking.
It's good to have all of thesedifferent.
Variety and, and ways of justhaving a mineral rich lifestyle
with magnesium, because ourbodies burn through it very
quickly every single day, butespecially when we're stressed,
(24:20):
fatigued not sleeping well.
And all those things.
And so if you're experiencingsevere nausea and vomiting in
your pregnancy, you areabsolutely burning through your
magnesium.
So though the recommendation is300 to 400 milligrams per day,
you can easily bump that up toseven or 800 milligrams as long
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as you're working with thatglycinate.
Part of it, there are somemagnesiums that cause, other you
can overdo other types ofmagnesiums that actually are
gonna give you more GI symptoms.
But glycinate is really easy toabsorb, really easy to, for your
body to utilize for all of thesethings, and just is good, well
(25:05):
rounded mineral to have onboard, especially for morning
sickness.
Kelly (25:09):
Yeah.
So those are like the three thatI would say if somebody was
like, eh, I'm struggling withthis.
We would be like, okay, trythese things.
Right?
But thankfully it's not theoptions out there.
Especially if you're likelooking through your cabinet
right now, your supplementcabinet, and you're like, Ooh, I
have two of those.
What else do I have in here thatmay be helpful?
One of the top ones.
It kind of goes back to thislike mineral rich lifestyle.
(25:32):
That's like my, I wanna lookthrough that hashtag I'm, I like
this idea.
But if you have electrolytes onhand or want to go purchase
some, that's a great way.
I.
To help with lots of extrahydration in your body,
especially if you are somebodywho, like, when you feel
nauseous or whatever, thatyou're consistently kind of
(25:52):
vomiting.
It's a great way to helprehydrate your body.
That is going to give kind ofthis whole body like
revitalization more so than I.
just water, right?
So the issue with someelectrolytes is that there's not
really they may look good ontheir packaging, but they have a
bunch of added sugar orartificial dyes to make them
look a certain way, right?
(26:13):
So just opting for like theclean kind of pregnancy safe
electrolyte powders is going tobe probably your best bet as you
kind of.
Are choosing something to put inyour body that's designed to
help it rather than add an extralayer of work that your liver
and your body have to do to kindof detox from it.
But that electrolytes and Ithink just in general, it's a
great one to have on handthroughout pregnancy just
(26:35):
because it sort of is a littlebuffer in terms of hydration and
mineral support too.
Tiffany (26:41):
Yeah, and if you wanna be like, I'm gonna, I'm saying
be lazy with it, but only in thesense like lazy, that you don't
wanna buy an extra thing.
But this is actually more work.
You can make your ownelectrolyte drink with a pinch
of sea salt and some lemon juiceand you know, a little bit of
cream of tar, tar.
(27:02):
I mean, there's so many recipesonline that you can, you can
make your own.
So if you wanna be.
Cheap.
Maybe that's what I mean.
If you wanna be cheap, make ityourself.
If you wanna be lazy, you can,you can buy one.
And we're always being asked forour recommendations on these
because I think women recognizethat there's a lot of
opportunity for additives.
So again, you guys can find thaton the full script protocol.
(27:24):
I.
And the next one is enjoyingdigestive bitters or lemon balm
tea.
And these, these two options, Imean, lemon balm is an herb.
It has its own beautifulmechanism for toning the nervous
system and helping with anxiety.
Often that is something that'saccompanying feeling nauseous
(27:46):
for days and days on end.
And.
But what they both do is theysupport bile flow and digestion,
and that can really be theticket for women.
Sometimes they just need thatencouragement for bile flow to
come and help bring all of thetoxins from the the.
(28:06):
Circulate from your bloodcirculation and move it into
your digestive tract forelimination.
And bile is really good at that.
We recommend starting with atiny dose of these digestive
bitters that can be found in,tincture form or capsules or you
can make teas, but doing just alittle bit before each meal and
(28:26):
kind of playing around with thata little bit, getting that bile
flow to surge while you'reeating.
Help your food digest and thensee if that has an effect on
your nausea the next day.
Kelly (28:38):
Yeah, and it's, I, I always thought, like, in my
head, the, the words digestivebitters just sounds I'm like, I
don't wanna do that.
That sounds gross.
Not nearly as gross.
And actually some of them are,are somewhat tasty.
So don't let that make youafraid to try if you're
interested in trying, like allof these different options.
The next one, you, you mayalready have.
Sitting around your homealready, but it would be
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different parts of aromatherapyin particular.
Essential oils are wonderful'cause they're just like quick
ways to be able to enjoy this.
But in the family of mint orcitrus are great at helping.
We actually always keep those inour birth bags too.
For moms who are feelingnauseous.
And during labor itself.
And so smelling some of thosereally fresh scents can really
(29:22):
calm nausea almost, almostimmediately in some situations.
And so what we will do is keep,you know, lemon, peppermint,
those oils nearby.
And an easy way, you can drop itin your hand, rub it together,
and kind of like, you know, putyour hands in front of your nose
and just deeply breathe in.
You can put it on a, like alittle Kleenex, sniff that for a
(29:43):
little bit.
Put it off to the side, sniff itwhen you need to open the
bottle, literally, and justsniff it from right there.
Put it on your wrists.
Something like that, right?
So that you have easy access toit.
It sounds kind of strange, butit's one of the tools that we
have to help, especially beforeyou get to that vomiting part
where you're just like, Ooh,this morning may not be the
(30:05):
morning for me.
Right.
You're getting out of bed orsomething, or you're starting to
feel it creep up.
This is a great one to helpbring in just for extra support
to kind of.
you over as you are consideringwhat your body is gonna do with
you're feeling.
It may be just enough for you tosmell it, kind of calm your
system down a little bit andthen go grab a snack or
something too that can kind oflift you over some of that.
(30:27):
Nausea and discomfort.
Tiffany (30:29):
Yeah, and there's so many tips that you can find in
so many different places aboutlike how to get food on board,
how to stabilize blood sugar,how to you know, use protein,
how to I.
You know, just deal with that,that food piece of it.
That is absolutely worth doing alittle bit of research on
(30:51):
because turning the cornerreally right?
Getting, getting women to turnthe corner and sometimes that
aromatherapy can keep you fromvomiting again, just long enough
that you can get up and go makethat.
You know, protein smoothie foryourself real quick and turn the
corner on the day.
Sometimes it's just, I mean,like you said, open, just open
(31:13):
the bottle.
Like when my kids are havingtummy troubles, like they don't
want it on themselves or onanything, they just take the cap
off and just smell the cap.
Just so helpful.
And then lastly in this thisadditional section of things to,
you know, kind of to consideradding in and, and making a part
(31:33):
of the picture is probiotics.
And of course, we're getting somuch information lately about
how important the gut anddigestive tract is and the good
flora there and the balance andall of those things when you are
not feeling your.
Best when you are not eatingyour normal foods, when you have
a lot of digestive upset, likevomiting, when your stomach is
(31:56):
just unsettled, that you're justgoing to be imbalanced
digestively, and I'm not sayingthat to make women feel even
worse about their situation, butwhen you feel like you can
tolerate adding some more thingsin, probiotics should be at the
top of the list for justrestoring that.
And sometimes there's some,there's some great strains out
(32:18):
there.
That sometimes just actuallyimprove the symptoms right away.
And one of those that's reallywell studied for morning
sickness symptoms specificallyis lactobacillus renos.
And you guys will see that onour protocol too.
So if you're gonna go to grabanything, look for that strand
(32:38):
so that you can see if that'sthe ticket, if that's the, you
know, one little key that'sgonna switch over to helping you
get over the hump and help youfeel better.
Kelly (32:48):
Yeah.
So those are like our, our, ourbig hitters in terms of
recommendations to notnecessarily put a bandaid on,
but to include and to weave intoand support yourself as you are
working through something thatcan be really debilitating.
It can go anywhere from, like,this is a mild annoyance to this
is changing my entire life and Ineed some help here.
So if you go into our shownotes, like we mentioned, you
(33:09):
will find our entire protocol,everything that we mentioned
here and brands that we love.
Again, always 25% off MSRP, sothat is a great place to get any
supplements of this or beyond.
We'll link another podcastepisode also where we jump into
both morning sickness, but alsoa bunch of other, just annoying
you know, complications and, andissues and discomforts that come
(33:30):
up in pregnancy.
And then we will also, you'llfind in there like the fertility
handbook or miscarriage episode.
Everything that we kinda chattedabout you will find in there if
you are not a member of.
If you are not a member of ournewsletter list, you will find a
link to show up there.
Our childbirth education class,our monthly membership, all of
the different ways that you canget connected with us in this
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kind of proactive midwiferyeducation in any season.
Is there for you.
So hopefully this was a helpfulthing for.
You to listen to today, whetheryou are walking through it now
or again, trying to be asproactive as possible for a
future or just loving on afriend right, who is dealing
with this as well.
And we will catch you next week.
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