July 30, 2025 • 19 mins
This memoriam podcast episode features an enlightening dialogue with Ercole Chilla of Uncle Pig's Barbecue, who shares his insights and experiences from the competitive barbecue scene in South Jersey. The conversation delves into the nuances of cooking, including the challenges faced with specific cuts of meat, and the importance of accountability in judging barbecue competitions. Ercole articulates his perspectives on historical figures he would like to cook for, as well as his reflections on the evolution of barbecue techniques. We also explore the intersection of culinary skills and broader life lessons, including how cooking can enhance mathematical comprehension among children. Ultimately, this episode offers a comprehensive examination of barbecue culture, enriched by personal anecdotes and thoughtful discourse.
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(00:11):
Welcome to Barbecue Nationwith JT and Leanne.
After Hours, the conversationthat continued after the show was
done.
Hey, everybody, it's jt andthis is a special version of Barbecue
Nation.
It is brought to you in partby Painted Hills Natural Beef.
Beef you can be proud to serveyour family and friends.
That's Painted Hills Natural Beef.
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to After Hours here onBarbecue Nation.
(00:35):
Ms. Whippen and myself arevery pleased to have Urkel Chilla
with us today from Uncle Pig'sBarbecue in New Jersey.
South Jersey.
He can throw a rock and hit Philadelphia.
That's how far south he is.
But he's gonna now suffer theslings and arrows of outrageous lightning.
Round questions here in After Hours.
(00:55):
So, first of all, thank youfor sticking around for this.
So.
Okay.
Pleasure.
I think it's my pleasure.
We'll find out in a few minutes.
We'll find out soon.
I was gonna say reserve thattill the end.
No, it's not that bad.
We will start with an easy one.
If you could cook four andthen dine with a historical figure,
(01:15):
who would it be and what wouldbe on the menu?
Historical figure in barbecue?
Anything.
History.
Lincoln.
I like.
Well, I'd like to cook forTuffy Stone and have brisket with
him, I think.
Oh, cool.
There you go.
Have you ever come across.
(01:35):
I understand.
Have you ever come across afood item that you just could not
master cooking it?
Well, yes.
Two weeks ago or three weeksago, in.
In Roswell, Georgia, at theOral Oak Invitational, they gave
us a brisket to cook that wasso lean that I really didn't know
(01:57):
what to do with it, but, man,it was horrible.
How'd you come out on that?
We finished 23rd, I think, outof 30.
Something.
Yeah, it was bad.
All the.
All the proteins were not very good.
Unfortunate bag.
What's the worst thing you'veever eaten?
(02:22):
Probably tripe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That ranks up there.
Yeah.
Name something that you werereally hot on for a while.
This is.
Has to do with barbecue.
(02:43):
And then you changed your mind.
I'm gonna say butcher's honeyuntil they change the grind on me.
Okay.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
What do you think is the bestfood show on television?
I really like chop.
(03:05):
Yeah, that's a good show.
That's a good show.
You ought to put yourself inthat position.
It's like, what would I do ifthat was me?
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I feel your pain.
Yeah.
Yes, she does.
You got chopped is what you do.
(03:27):
Next year, right where you.
I did.
I did not remember that.
That's.
That I do now.
You say that.
I remember that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you could teach apolitician to barbecue, who would
it be, and what would youteach them?
Oh, God.
I would say Donald Trump.
Maybe.
(03:49):
Maybe.
Maybe I would teach him to do brisket.
There you go.
He'd probably eat it.
Okay, what is.
Teach him how to light the charcoal.
He definitely can light somestuff up.
I know that.
Yeah, he can.
Yeah.
So far, what has been yourabsolute best day in your life?
(04:10):
Oh, that's probably the day mykids were born.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's.
That's a good answer, and weget that a lot.
But I agree with you 100%.
Now, if you're changing thebarbecue, I would say probably the
Jack.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
If you could erase one mistakefrom history, it can be your history.
(04:31):
It can be world history.
What would it be, and whywould you want it erased?
Let me see.
One day.
One day.
One day, probably.
You know what?
I. I can't even say that.
(04:51):
That's a tough question.
We can come back to it.
Yeah, let's get back to that one.
Okay, so if Leanne declaredyou supreme ruler of barbecue for
a day, what would you ask?
Supreme ruler decree that as I will.
Rule over kcbs, that'd be oneof the things I would rule over and.
(05:13):
And have the judges beaccountable for some of the scores
they put down on paper.
There you go.
Not necessarily in trouble,but have a reasoning for it.
I don't disagree with that.
(05:34):
Leanne gets tired of hearingthis, I'm sure, but I came out of
the horse world.
I spent a good portion of mylife competing in the horse world,
and I was a judge until just afew years ago when I stopped doing
it.
But when we went to school andwe had to go to continuing education,
it seemed like I was goingevery year for one of the licenses.
(05:55):
I had several.
One of the things you had todo was kind of like you would defend
your master's thesis in college.
You had to stand up in frontof everybody and say why you picked
the.
This particular horse forfirst place, this one for second,
third, so on, but you had todefend that.
Now, there was no.
(06:17):
Truthfully.
There was no wrong answers,because it's just your opinion.
But you did have to share youropinion on why you did that.
And that's the one thing sinceI've been doing this show and got
to know Leanne really well anda lot of the competitive barbecue
guys, that always kind ofmakes me scratch my head because
(06:41):
we were so much.
And.
And.
And in any Professional sport,if you will.
There's accountability fromthe officiating.
There has to be.
And I don't understand that.
In.
In the barbecue, I know theywant blind judging and all that stuff,
but still, it.
It makes sense to me to say,you know, Leanne and I gave you tens.
(07:05):
Some other guy gives you a two.
Now, wait a minute.
Why is he giving you a two?
I'm just making stuff up here.
But you see the relevance.
Why is he doing that?
Have.
I think I should work.
I think.
I think it should work.
Like, they should give thetable captain the authority to say,
hey, everybody on this tablejust gave this guy nine for appearance,
and you gave him a seven.
(07:27):
Now, your taste and yourtenderness could be different than
mine, but everybody's eyessee, comes and works the same.
So you need to tell thisperson why you gave him a seven.
I mean, and it's basically,for me, it's just the appearance
part, because you do have adifferent palate than me.
You may not think that's too tender.
You may think it's too tender.
I think it's too salty.
You may think it's not.
So them things, them scoresare your opinion, but when you go
(07:49):
to appearance, that's a visualthing that everybody's eyes look
at.
So when you don't do that partof that.
Right, that means the rest ofyour scores are probably not going
to be good either.
When we.
That's how I feel.
When we judge this onedivision, reigning horses, you.
If there was a penaltyincurred when the horse was performing,
(08:11):
you marked the penalty, oryour scribe did.
But if your score.
If Leanne scored somebody a 70and Urkel, you scored somebody a
70, and I scored him a 76.
That was way out of the range.
And so the master stewards andjudges would come to you and say,
why did you do this?
See, that's.
(08:32):
I think that should happen.
Yeah.
So, anyway, like, giving acomment card, you should definitely.
Because I'm a firm believer incomic cards, especially if you don't
like something.
So if you don't give someone acomic card and you're throwing a
seven around or sixes, notthat I receive a lot of that, but
we've.
We've received sevens in the past.
If you don't tell me why yougot you're unhappy about that 7,
(08:52):
chances are you're gonna getthe same crappy barbecue you got
the week before, because Idon't know what to change.
So if you want to make the.
Make your palate feel better,then tell me why it wasn't good and
then maybe we'll fix it.
Yeah.
But I think, I think the tablecaptain should have all the right
to say, hey, you need to writea comic car for this.
Yeah.
What are your thoughts there, Leanne?
(09:15):
Well, I agree and you know, itis the table captain's responsibility
to look at the scores and ifsomething is way off or skewed, it
is supposed to be brought tothe attention of whoever's overseeing
the whole contest.
So there are a few things thatthe captains do have, you know, can
bring up, but when you'retalking about straight nines like
(09:38):
that and a seven gets thrownin, they aren't going to do anything
about it because the seven isgoing to be dropped anyway.
I think that's just, you know,it's not going to affect the cooker.
But you personally, I know itdoes affect you and, and yeah, I
agree, but there's also thingshappen pretty quickly, so I don't
(10:00):
know how many comments, youknow, if it happens a lot.
I just don't know how it couldget done properly on time without
turn.
Ins and all that.
But I, I agree with you.
There should be moreaccountability for the judges that
are scoring out of line.
We'll say.
(10:21):
Yeah, okay.
Do you remember what the firstthing was that you got in trouble
for as a kid?
Let me see.
I think I got in trouble fortrying to put a screwdriver in a
socket.
Light socket.
(10:41):
Oh, I think, yeah, I had alittle, they gave me a little toolkit
when I forget how old it wasand I was trying to unscrew the COVID
and I guess and I thought tomyself, I remember like it was yesterday.
I was like, I wonder if I putit inside here, what's going to happen?
And thank God before I did it.
Yeah, I'll say, wow, well,what's your least favorite activity
(11:04):
in the world?
My least favorite activity isprobably something you said earlier,
golf.
Because I ain't no good at it.
There's very few that are.
So you, hey, you want to be inmy golf show?
I'm like, if you need a caddy,I could do it for you.
That's about it.
Do you remember I'm prettyathletic to do things.
(11:26):
I just, I cannot get that golf game.
Well, I don't play enough, butyeah, that's okay.
Do you remember the worstconcert you ever went to if you went
to them?
I never went to a concert.
I was, I'm not really into thereal loud music.
Okay, that's fair.
(11:47):
If you were an animal, whatAnimal would you be and why Urkel?
Well, I think I'd be a lion.
I just, that's, I, I am a Leo.
So I, I, I feel that you wantto try to dominate, so I, that's
what I want to be.
I'd want to be the king.
Big, big main.
The whole thing.
Yeah.
All right.
(12:09):
If you could instantly becomea master of a musical instrument,
which instrument would it be?
That's easy.
I, I, I really like to playthe guitar.
I really would like to pick.
I mean, so when I was youngand I, you know, they had the band
in school, and I'm like, ah,the guys, they're weirdos.
I ain't worried about now.
I look at him today, I'm like,man, that is crazy.
They are, they're making musicwith their fingers.
(12:32):
It's just crazy how, how, howI wish I could do that today.
Okay, here's one that will.
If Sarah is right outside,she'll probably get in trouble for
this.
But what is something thatSarah was right about, but you still
think she's wrong about?
(12:54):
Oh, so it's, we have, we havediscussions about, believe it or
not, barbecue all the time.
She'll come in and she'll saysomething about, like, all right,
so I'll give you, for example,she said that Jack chicken, not that
she likes a lot of barbecue anyhow.
She said it was the bestchicken she's ever had from us, period.
(13:17):
And I said, we just got thekiss of death.
Sarah liked the chicken.
When she doesn't likesomething, we win first place with
it, 90.
So she said the chicken was great.
We finished 58th.
So we argue about what I turnin all the time.
Let it go.
Let the box go.
Let the box go.
Let the box go.
I'm like, no, I'm not in the box.
I gotta finish it.
And so, yeah, there's otherthings I'm sure if I can.
(13:38):
Give me a long enough time tothink about it.
Yeah, we get along pretty good.
We've been together for a long time.
That's good.
That's good.
A little off the subject here,but what's the biggest change that
you think should be made infood advertising?
I mean, when you go get a BigMac, it doesn't look like it does
(13:59):
on tv.
Well, they should, they shouldput a thing.
This is not the actual size.
Yeah.
Because when you get it, it'slike, it's like on a Hawaiian roll
and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Everything's so small.
Okay.
Would you describe yourself ascorn fed or grass fed?
(14:19):
I'M gonna say grass fed.
I don't know why I would saythat, but that's what you think.
But you did.
Sounds good.
I think I was grassy.
Great.
Great.
Perfect.
Okay, here's a fun one for you.
Boxers.
Briefs or thongs?
Briefs.
(14:41):
Okay.
Okay.
What's the first thing you dowhen you get up in the morning?
Open my eyes.
There you go.
There you go.
We.
We've had one person.
We won't say that person'sname, but one person that jumped
up and said, well, you meanafter I get up and pee?
(15:07):
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you have a favorite classic movie?
Mine is Casablanca.
I don't know what Leanne's is, honestly.
Christmas story.
Oh, Christmas Story.
Okay, now, my favorite movieof like that.
My favorite movie is Amadeus.
I love that movie.
(15:28):
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know how classicit is, only because it's not super
old, but it's getting there.
Crimson Tide was my.
One of my favorite movies.
I mean, I think DenzelWashington is a great actor.
Oh, yeah.
Have you seen the latestinstallment of the Equalizer?
No, I can't wait.
Okay.
You should see it.
I.
We saw it.
And I love that, too.
(15:49):
I watch it all the time.
How can you watch the samemovie over and over again?
You know what's going to happen?
I'm like, I don't care.
I'm kind of one of those guyswhere I liked it when the good guy
wins.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.
Do you think that cooking canhelp kids who are having trouble
(16:09):
learning math?
Meaning like kids, we usequarter cups and teaspoons and quarts
and all kinds of stuff.
Maybe.
Maybe not the fraction.
Maybe the fraction part of it.
But I think if you.
If you.
If you cook a lot or you.
It keeps you focused onthings, maybe it can help you focus
better on your math.
Yeah.
But there you go.
(16:32):
What's one thing you missabout your 20s?
Good knees.
Yeah, a good answer.
I'm with you, brother.
I'm with you.
Yeah.
God almighty.
You haven't seen me limparound enough to know that that's
right on the top of my deal.
(16:54):
Name one book that should bemandatory reading for everyone.
The Bible.
Okay, good.
Now, last question.
What would your.
What would your last meal beif you were on death row?
(17:16):
If I had.
If I had my.
My.
If I was.
My mother was around to stillmake would be spaghetti and chicken
cutlets in her salad if shewas still around and make it.
That would be my last meal.
Oh, excellent.
Excellent.
Herkle, you've been A reallygood sport.
Yeah.
Fantastic.
And I love your answers, man.
(17:37):
They're just right there, so.
Well, we're gonna be watchingyou on the road.
Thank you.
Yeah, we are.
Speaking by myself had nobodyhelped me this weekend.
So we're gonna, we're gonnawing it by ourselves this weekend.
We've done that.
I meant, I meant to ask you this.
In the regular show, do you dothe, like the holiday cooking of
(18:00):
the turkey or the prime ribroast or that.
We do the.
I do the turkey.
So this is one of the otherthings my wife, me and my wife argue
about.
So she's.
I have a Southern Pride smokerin my garage.
My garage is like another house.
It's.
It's got heat, air, polishedfloor, sheetrock wall, everything.
It's just like another house.
So when I say it's in mygarage, it's not like in some beat
(18:20):
up where cars are sitting nextto it.
Right?
It's in my garage.
So I, and I told her, I said,listen, I'm.
So, I'll make a turkey this year.
This was last year, so I'mgonna make a turkey this year.
I'm gonna use the smoker.
I don't want smoked turkey.
I'm like, I'm not.
It's only smoke if I put woodin it.
It's.
It's not.
It's.
Southern Pride is a giant oven.
I can use it as a regular oven.
No, no, no.
I'm like, will you make yoursand I'll make mine?
(18:42):
So we, we kind of had acompetition with that and of course
the Southern Pride won one.
So we started doing a coupleturkeys for people during the course
of year.
But yeah, we'll make.
I'll make the turkey this year.
Cool.
Good for you.
Good for you.
Urcochila from Uncle PigsBarbecue in New Jersey.
The reigning world champion atthe Jack.
(19:02):
And it's been a real pleasureto talk to you about it.
It has.
I really enjoy it.
All right, that's going towrap it up for after hours.
We'll be back next week withanother edition.
And remember our motto, turnit, don't burn it.
So go out there, take care andhave fun, everybody.
Welcome to Barbecue Nationwith JT and Leanne.
After Hours, the conversationthat continued after the show was
done.
Hey, everybody, it's jt andthis is a special version of Barbecue
Nation.
It is brought to you in partby Painted Hills Natural Beef.
Beef you can be proud to serveyour family and friends.
That's Painted Hills Natural Beef.
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to After Hours here onBarbecue Nation.
(00:35):
Ms. Whippen and myself arevery pleased to have Urkel Chilla
with us today from Uncle Pig'sBarbecue in New Jersey.
South Jersey.
He can throw a rock and hit Philadelphia.
That's how far south he is.
But he's gonna now suffer theslings and arrows of outrageous lightning.
Round questions here in After Hours.
(00:55):
So, first of all, thank youfor sticking around for this.
So.
Okay.
Pleasure.
I think it's my pleasure.
We'll find out in a few minutes.
We'll find out soon.
I was gonna say reserve thattill the end.
No, it's not that bad.
We will start with an easy one.
If you could cook four andthen dine with a historical figure,
(01:15):
who would it be and what wouldbe on the menu?
Historical figure in barbecue?
Anything.
History.
Lincoln.
I like.
Well, I'd like to cook forTuffy Stone and have brisket with
him, I think.
Oh, cool.
There you go.
Have you ever come across.
(01:35):
I understand.
Have you ever come across afood item that you just could not
master cooking it?
Well, yes.
Two weeks ago or three weeksago, in.
In Roswell, Georgia, at theOral Oak Invitational, they gave
us a brisket to cook that wasso lean that I really didn't know
(01:57):
what to do with it, but, man,it was horrible.
How'd you come out on that?
We finished 23rd, I think, outof 30.
Something.
Yeah, it was bad.
All the.
All the proteins were not very good.
Unfortunate bag.
What's the worst thing you'veever eaten?
(02:22):
Probably tripe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That ranks up there.
Yeah.
Name something that you werereally hot on for a while.
This is.
Has to do with barbecue.
(02:43):
And then you changed your mind.
I'm gonna say butcher's honeyuntil they change the grind on me.
Okay.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
What do you think is the bestfood show on television?
I really like chop.
(03:05):
Yeah, that's a good show.
That's a good show.
You ought to put yourself inthat position.
It's like, what would I do ifthat was me?
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I feel your pain.
Yeah.
Yes, she does.
You got chopped is what you do.
(03:27):
Next year, right where you.
I did.
I did not remember that.
That's.
That I do now.
You say that.
I remember that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you could teach apolitician to barbecue, who would
it be, and what would youteach them?
Oh, God.
I would say Donald Trump.
Maybe.
(03:49):
Maybe.
Maybe I would teach him to do brisket.
There you go.
He'd probably eat it.
Okay, what is.
Teach him how to light the charcoal.
He definitely can light somestuff up.
I know that.
Yeah, he can.
Yeah.
So far, what has been yourabsolute best day in your life?
(04:10):
Oh, that's probably the day mykids were born.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's.
That's a good answer, and weget that a lot.
But I agree with you 100%.
Now, if you're changing thebarbecue, I would say probably the
Jack.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
If you could erase one mistakefrom history, it can be your history.
(04:31):
It can be world history.
What would it be, and whywould you want it erased?
Let me see.
One day.
One day.
One day, probably.
You know what?
I. I can't even say that.
(04:51):
That's a tough question.
We can come back to it.
Yeah, let's get back to that one.
Okay, so if Leanne declaredyou supreme ruler of barbecue for
a day, what would you ask?
Supreme ruler decree that as I will.
Rule over kcbs, that'd be oneof the things I would rule over and.
(05:13):
And have the judges beaccountable for some of the scores
they put down on paper.
There you go.
Not necessarily in trouble,but have a reasoning for it.
I don't disagree with that.
(05:34):
Leanne gets tired of hearingthis, I'm sure, but I came out of
the horse world.
I spent a good portion of mylife competing in the horse world,
and I was a judge until just afew years ago when I stopped doing
it.
But when we went to school andwe had to go to continuing education,
it seemed like I was goingevery year for one of the licenses.
(05:55):
I had several.
One of the things you had todo was kind of like you would defend
your master's thesis in college.
You had to stand up in frontof everybody and say why you picked
the.
This particular horse forfirst place, this one for second,
third, so on, but you had todefend that.
Now, there was no.
(06:17):
Truthfully.
There was no wrong answers,because it's just your opinion.
But you did have to share youropinion on why you did that.
And that's the one thing sinceI've been doing this show and got
to know Leanne really well anda lot of the competitive barbecue
guys, that always kind ofmakes me scratch my head because
(06:41):
we were so much.
And.
And.
And in any Professional sport,if you will.
There's accountability fromthe officiating.
There has to be.
And I don't understand that.
In.
In the barbecue, I know theywant blind judging and all that stuff,
but still, it.
It makes sense to me to say,you know, Leanne and I gave you tens.
(07:05):
Some other guy gives you a two.
Now, wait a minute.
Why is he giving you a two?
I'm just making stuff up here.
But you see the relevance.
Why is he doing that?
Have.
I think I should work.
I think.
I think it should work.
Like, they should give thetable captain the authority to say,
hey, everybody on this tablejust gave this guy nine for appearance,
and you gave him a seven.
(07:27):
Now, your taste and yourtenderness could be different than
mine, but everybody's eyessee, comes and works the same.
So you need to tell thisperson why you gave him a seven.
I mean, and it's basically,for me, it's just the appearance
part, because you do have adifferent palate than me.
You may not think that's too tender.
You may think it's too tender.
I think it's too salty.
You may think it's not.
So them things, them scoresare your opinion, but when you go
(07:49):
to appearance, that's a visualthing that everybody's eyes look
at.
So when you don't do that partof that.
Right, that means the rest ofyour scores are probably not going
to be good either.
When we.
That's how I feel.
When we judge this onedivision, reigning horses, you.
If there was a penaltyincurred when the horse was performing,
(08:11):
you marked the penalty, oryour scribe did.
But if your score.
If Leanne scored somebody a 70and Urkel, you scored somebody a
70, and I scored him a 76.
That was way out of the range.
And so the master stewards andjudges would come to you and say,
why did you do this?
See, that's.
(08:32):
I think that should happen.
Yeah.
So, anyway, like, giving acomment card, you should definitely.
Because I'm a firm believer incomic cards, especially if you don't
like something.
So if you don't give someone acomic card and you're throwing a
seven around or sixes, notthat I receive a lot of that, but
we've.
We've received sevens in the past.
If you don't tell me why yougot you're unhappy about that 7,
(08:52):
chances are you're gonna getthe same crappy barbecue you got
the week before, because Idon't know what to change.
So if you want to make the.
Make your palate feel better,then tell me why it wasn't good and
then maybe we'll fix it.
Yeah.
But I think, I think the tablecaptain should have all the right
to say, hey, you need to writea comic car for this.
Yeah.
What are your thoughts there, Leanne?
(09:15):
Well, I agree and you know, itis the table captain's responsibility
to look at the scores and ifsomething is way off or skewed, it
is supposed to be brought tothe attention of whoever's overseeing
the whole contest.
So there are a few things thatthe captains do have, you know, can
bring up, but when you'retalking about straight nines like
(09:38):
that and a seven gets thrownin, they aren't going to do anything
about it because the seven isgoing to be dropped anyway.
I think that's just, you know,it's not going to affect the cooker.
But you personally, I know itdoes affect you and, and yeah, I
agree, but there's also thingshappen pretty quickly, so I don't
(10:00):
know how many comments, youknow, if it happens a lot.
I just don't know how it couldget done properly on time without
turn.
Ins and all that.
But I, I agree with you.
There should be moreaccountability for the judges that
are scoring out of line.
We'll say.
(10:21):
Yeah, okay.
Do you remember what the firstthing was that you got in trouble
for as a kid?
Let me see.
I think I got in trouble fortrying to put a screwdriver in a
socket.
Light socket.
(10:41):
Oh, I think, yeah, I had alittle, they gave me a little toolkit
when I forget how old it wasand I was trying to unscrew the COVID
and I guess and I thought tomyself, I remember like it was yesterday.
I was like, I wonder if I putit inside here, what's going to happen?
And thank God before I did it.
Yeah, I'll say, wow, well,what's your least favorite activity
(11:04):
in the world?
My least favorite activity isprobably something you said earlier,
golf.
Because I ain't no good at it.
There's very few that are.
So you, hey, you want to be inmy golf show?
I'm like, if you need a caddy,I could do it for you.
That's about it.
Do you remember I'm prettyathletic to do things.
(11:26):
I just, I cannot get that golf game.
Well, I don't play enough, butyeah, that's okay.
Do you remember the worstconcert you ever went to if you went
to them?
I never went to a concert.
I was, I'm not really into thereal loud music.
Okay, that's fair.
(11:47):
If you were an animal, whatAnimal would you be and why Urkel?
Well, I think I'd be a lion.
I just, that's, I, I am a Leo.
So I, I, I feel that you wantto try to dominate, so I, that's
what I want to be.
I'd want to be the king.
Big, big main.
The whole thing.
Yeah.
All right.
(12:09):
If you could instantly becomea master of a musical instrument,
which instrument would it be?
That's easy.
I, I, I really like to playthe guitar.
I really would like to pick.
I mean, so when I was youngand I, you know, they had the band
in school, and I'm like, ah,the guys, they're weirdos.
I ain't worried about now.
I look at him today, I'm like,man, that is crazy.
They are, they're making musicwith their fingers.
(12:32):
It's just crazy how, how, howI wish I could do that today.
Okay, here's one that will.
If Sarah is right outside,she'll probably get in trouble for
this.
But what is something thatSarah was right about, but you still
think she's wrong about?
(12:54):
Oh, so it's, we have, we havediscussions about, believe it or
not, barbecue all the time.
She'll come in and she'll saysomething about, like, all right,
so I'll give you, for example,she said that Jack chicken, not that
she likes a lot of barbecue anyhow.
She said it was the bestchicken she's ever had from us, period.
(13:17):
And I said, we just got thekiss of death.
Sarah liked the chicken.
When she doesn't likesomething, we win first place with
it, 90.
So she said the chicken was great.
We finished 58th.
So we argue about what I turnin all the time.
Let it go.
Let the box go.
Let the box go.
Let the box go.
I'm like, no, I'm not in the box.
I gotta finish it.
And so, yeah, there's otherthings I'm sure if I can.
(13:38):
Give me a long enough time tothink about it.
Yeah, we get along pretty good.
We've been together for a long time.
That's good.
That's good.
A little off the subject here,but what's the biggest change that
you think should be made infood advertising?
I mean, when you go get a BigMac, it doesn't look like it does
(13:59):
on tv.
Well, they should, they shouldput a thing.
This is not the actual size.
Yeah.
Because when you get it, it'slike, it's like on a Hawaiian roll
and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Everything's so small.
Okay.
Would you describe yourself ascorn fed or grass fed?
(14:19):
I'M gonna say grass fed.
I don't know why I would saythat, but that's what you think.
But you did.
Sounds good.
I think I was grassy.
Great.
Great.
Perfect.
Okay, here's a fun one for you.
Boxers.
Briefs or thongs?
Briefs.
(14:41):
Okay.
Okay.
What's the first thing you dowhen you get up in the morning?
Open my eyes.
There you go.
There you go.
We.
We've had one person.
We won't say that person'sname, but one person that jumped
up and said, well, you meanafter I get up and pee?
(15:07):
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you have a favorite classic movie?
Mine is Casablanca.
I don't know what Leanne's is, honestly.
Christmas story.
Oh, Christmas Story.
Okay, now, my favorite movieof like that.
My favorite movie is Amadeus.
I love that movie.
(15:28):
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know how classicit is, only because it's not super
old, but it's getting there.
Crimson Tide was my.
One of my favorite movies.
I mean, I think DenzelWashington is a great actor.
Oh, yeah.
Have you seen the latestinstallment of the Equalizer?
No, I can't wait.
Okay.
You should see it.
I.
We saw it.
And I love that, too.
(15:49):
I watch it all the time.
How can you watch the samemovie over and over again?
You know what's going to happen?
I'm like, I don't care.
I'm kind of one of those guyswhere I liked it when the good guy
wins.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.
Do you think that cooking canhelp kids who are having trouble
(16:09):
learning math?
Meaning like kids, we usequarter cups and teaspoons and quarts
and all kinds of stuff.
Maybe.
Maybe not the fraction.
Maybe the fraction part of it.
But I think if you.
If you.
If you cook a lot or you.
It keeps you focused onthings, maybe it can help you focus
better on your math.
Yeah.
But there you go.
(16:32):
What's one thing you missabout your 20s?
Good knees.
Yeah, a good answer.
I'm with you, brother.
I'm with you.
Yeah.
God almighty.
You haven't seen me limparound enough to know that that's
right on the top of my deal.
(16:54):
Name one book that should bemandatory reading for everyone.
The Bible.
Okay, good.
Now, last question.
What would your.
What would your last meal beif you were on death row?
(17:16):
If I had.
If I had my.
My.
If I was.
My mother was around to stillmake would be spaghetti and chicken
cutlets in her salad if shewas still around and make it.
That would be my last meal.
Oh, excellent.
Excellent.
Herkle, you've been A reallygood sport.
Yeah.
Fantastic.
And I love your answers, man.
(17:37):
They're just right there, so.
Well, we're gonna be watchingyou on the road.
Thank you.
Yeah, we are.
Speaking by myself had nobodyhelped me this weekend.
So we're gonna, we're gonnawing it by ourselves this weekend.
We've done that.
I meant, I meant to ask you this.
In the regular show, do you dothe, like the holiday cooking of
(18:00):
the turkey or the prime ribroast or that.
We do the.
I do the turkey.
So this is one of the otherthings my wife, me and my wife argue
about.
So she's.
I have a Southern Pride smokerin my garage.
My garage is like another house.
It's.
It's got heat, air, polishedfloor, sheetrock wall, everything.
It's just like another house.
So when I say it's in mygarage, it's not like in some beat
(18:20):
up where cars are sitting nextto it.
Right?
It's in my garage.
So I, and I told her, I said,listen, I'm.
So, I'll make a turkey this year.
This was last year, so I'mgonna make a turkey this year.
I'm gonna use the smoker.
I don't want smoked turkey.
I'm like, I'm not.
It's only smoke if I put woodin it.
It's.
It's not.
It's.
Southern Pride is a giant oven.
I can use it as a regular oven.
No, no, no.
I'm like, will you make yoursand I'll make mine?
(18:42):
So we, we kind of had acompetition with that and of course
the Southern Pride won one.
So we started doing a coupleturkeys for people during the course
of year.
But yeah, we'll make.
I'll make the turkey this year.
Cool.
Good for you.
Good for you.
Urcochila from Uncle PigsBarbecue in New Jersey.
The reigning world champion atthe Jack.
(19:02):
And it's been a real pleasureto talk to you about it.
It has.
I really enjoy it.
All right, that's going towrap it up for after hours.
We'll be back next week withanother edition.
And remember our motto, turnit, don't burn it.
So go out there, take care andhave fun, everybody.
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