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August 19, 2025 24 mins

This episode of Barbecue Nation delves into the intriguing topic of historical figures with whom one might wish to share a culinary experience. Our conversation, featuring Brett Walton, unfolds as we explore the question of who we would invite to dine with us and what delectable dishes we would prepare for them. Throughout this dialogue, we not only consider the significance of these historical figures but also reflect on personal culinary preferences and the memories associated with food. Additionally, we touch upon various other engaging subjects, such as the worst foods ever tasted and the influence of cooking on learning, particularly in the context of mathematics for children. Join us as we engage in a thoughtful exchange that intertwines the realms of history, gastronomy, and personal anecdotes.

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(00:11):
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(00:33):
You know, this is the part ofthe show the FCC will not allow to
be aired, for obvious reasons,as you will see.
But we want to welcome andBrett Walton from the Wall Twin.
Excuse me, my nose is itching.
And I forgot to tell you thatnext week on the regular show, Carolyn
Wells, one of the icons fromKansas City Barbecue Society, will

(00:56):
be joining us.
Carolyn has been on the show afew times before.
Always great fun to have herhere, but.
Okay, guys, are you ready for this?
Let's do it.
Bring it.
Here we go.
Okay.
Okay.
If you could cook four andthen dine with a historical figure,
who would it be and what wouldbe on the menu?

(01:17):
Oh, boy.
Holy cow.
And the historical figure canbe either deceased or alive.
Yeah.
Okay.
Doesn't have to be historic,like, gone forever.
Yeah, yeah, we can dig them up.
Dig him up.

(01:37):
Secretary loaded.
Interesting.
Here.
Apparently.
I may have to put you on hold.
I'm having something going on here.
Okay, okay, so I'll go ahead.
Geez.
Well, while Brett's putting uson hold, let's put me on hold on
the spot here.
Oh, golly.
Historical.

(01:57):
Sorry.
My gate.
Oh, I let someone in the gate.
I thought I had my phone on donot disturb, but you're good.
Not the case.
You're good.
Okay.
Product delivered.
Oh, man.
Let's see.
God.
Historic figure.
I can't.

(02:19):
We can come back to it ifyou'd like.
Yeah, let's come back to thatsecond to think about that one.
Okay.
Name something that you werehot on when it first came out and
then you changed your mind.
Like a ingredient.
It could be a piece of equipment.

(02:40):
This is good car.
Yeah, well, the one that comesto my mind immediately.
Sorry, go ahead.
I was gonna say hair.
It got old real fast.
We got over it so fast.
Yeah, no, oddly enough, thisis gonna sound.
And only the one that's comingin my mind right now at Takis, those

(03:00):
little hot.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those first came out, so I. Iwas teaching middle school at the
time, and my students wereobsessed with them.
Like, God, you gotta have.
Mr. Walton, you gotta have these.
I was like, no, no.
Then when I finally got them,I became Obsessed.
Like I would have to have abag like somewhere close all the
time to where it got to apoint where it was hurting my belly.
I had to stop eating thembecause I say, okay, never mind.

(03:22):
I can't.
I gotta not have those anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Brett.
Oh, man.
I. I could.
I can't really think.
I feel like I've fallen tofans a lot of times being maybe top
40 music.
It's a lot of times it'smusic, songs and I'll have favorite
songs that will come and thengoes really quick.

(03:44):
But I can't really think ofanything else again.
Kind of stop me on this one.
Okay, yeah, no problem.
Who is someone who has reallygotten your attention in the last
year?
Not Taylor, but somebody who'sreally grabbed your attention.
It can be in food, it can bemusic, it can be any acting, anything.

(04:09):
We have two of you.
Come on.
Yeah, I was waiting for Brett.
I was going to say, oddlyenough you said no Taylor Swift,
but how about Mr.
Swift?
Travis and his brother?
I following their podcast andthat great heights has been.
I mean I'm.
Every time it shows up, I sitand I watch every little bit of it.

(04:31):
So I would say them togetherbecause they're so engaging.
In fact, it's really funny.
We've got a sister who works in.
In California.
She works.
Actually right now she'sworking on the Shark Tank.
She's a producer and sheconstantly says, you guys need to
start a podcast.
Kelsey Brothers are justtearing it up.
You guys have been so great.
Like.
Well, they have a slightlybigger following than us, but.
Yeah, but no, I've just.
So that's.

(04:51):
There, there's.
That was an easy one for me.
That's good.
Yeah.
What about you?
As good.
The only podcast that I'vereally come on to a lot this year,
it's more of just the shortswould be Joe Rogan.
Surprise.
Just like everyone else.
But just he getting to knowand I don't know if it's because
working in radio or whatever,he's such a good interviewer and

(05:13):
then learning how much helearns about his guests before they
come on.
And he's such a greatinterviewer because he's asking questions
that you don't think to ask,whether general questions that come
from what he really wants toknow about the guests that he's asking.
And so yeah, I really kind ofhoned it and try to use a little
bit of that when I have guestson my show.

(05:34):
And so I guess just in thelast year I know it's been around
for longer than a year, but inthe last year I've really.
Okay.
What'S the worst thing you'veever eaten?
The worst thing?
I, I feel like it's got to bea fish of some sorts.
You know What?

(05:55):
Yeah.
And what's, what's that fruit?
I, I did not eat it, but I hada co worker that brought that.
The, the fruit.
The Dorian.
The Dorian fruit.
Is that one Dorian fruit?
The smelly one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he was.
Before he opened that.
Fortunately, I was able to.
To skip out of the radiostation that day, but he had everyone
else at the station try it.
Consensus was it was a goodthing that I didn't stick around.

(06:17):
So that was my almost try.
Other than that.
Oh, squid balls.
Squid balls.
Squid balls.
Yes.
I didn't know that squid had balls.
To be fair.
I found out they were squidballs after I tried them.
I was just like this, just.
I don't like this.
This isn't good.

(06:37):
And then I found out squid balls.
And then of course, just thesound made the taste even worse.
So there's our YouTube viralvideo right there.
Squid balls.
We made some squid balls.
That's great.
There you go.
My wife has gone to likeNorway and Sweden and that her family

(07:00):
is from that area.
And she was telling me aboutthis canned.
And I love fish, but this,this is kind of the old Viking type,
salted, nasty.
And she said she saw somebody open.
And I've seen this ontelevision too, where they opened
up the can and you can't even,you can't get by.

(07:22):
Once the can opener pops theseal, you know, it's like that smell
comes out anyway.
It's called search strumming,isn't it?
The fish that people justlike, dry heave the second it's open.
Oh, yeah.
I can never, I could never.
It's fermented herring.
Yeah.

(07:43):
Yeah.
If you could erase one mistakefrom your past, what would it be?
And why?
I have more philosophicalthought on that.
I think our mistakes, we learnfrom them and we become better people
for, for having learned from them.
But I, I don't, I can't.

(08:06):
I'm not sure.
Brett, you.
You the same thing, you know?
Yeah.
We, Adam and I, and our natureis to be so positive that I, I, I'm
not surprised that you saidthat, because that same thought popped
in my head of, of what?
You know, we try not to haveany regrets.

(08:27):
Just learn from any mistakes,dust yourself off, and maybe we just
haven't made any so big thatwe're like, I'D like to take that
back.
Okay.
Okay.
Then let me ask you this.
Do you remember what the firstthing was you got in trouble for
as a kid?
Well, we've been told.
We've been told.
We.
We were in our diapers.

(08:48):
I believe captures were involved.
And the fireplace ashes and ustap dancing on the fireplace.
Oh.
Before church.
Before church.
For church.
I remember the story.
I was.
I was there.
I don't remember it.
I've been told.
Well, yeah, I've had a lot ofthose types of memories, too, Adam,
in my life that I was told Iwas there, but I don't remember.

(09:13):
What's your least favoriteactivity in the world?
Oh, least favorite activity.
Well, first of all, I hate moving.
Yeah.
And the one thing I hate morethan moving is helping other people
move.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
We'll do it.

(09:34):
And it is funny to Brett'spoint, because, like, when we've
had to move.
And one thing I appreciateabout my wife, she will make sure
every box is set up and in thefront room ready to go.
Every piece of furniture is.
Is taken down.
There's nothing worse thanshowing up to help somebody move,
and they haven't even started packing.
Right.
I came to help move, not packand move.
Yeah, right.

(09:55):
So if.
Yes, yes.
If you could teach apolitician to barbecue, cook, whatever,
who would it be, and whatwould you teach them to cook?
This is not a political show.
But it's just a fun question.
Yeah, it is a fun question.

(10:15):
That is fun.
It would be smash Burgers.
Whoever it is, it beats smashburgers because, bottom line, they're
easier than you think and theytaste better when they're done.
And how about we split thisone, Adam?
I got the meal, you say the hoot.

(10:36):
Okay, you got the easy part.
Gee whiz, let's see.
Who would we, you know, herein the state of Florida?
Brett.
Let's teach Ron DeSantis.
Because food eases tensionsand moods and maybe put him in a
good mood and, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Kumbaya, you know?
And there you go.
Get along.
There you go.

(10:57):
Very diplomatic answer.
Good job.
What?
What is something your spousewas right.
Correct about, but you stillthink they're wrong?
One thing that she thinksshe's right about or one thing?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

(11:19):
One thing that your spouse.
Spouse was absolutely right about.
Okay.
But you still think she's wrong?
I don't know, because I'mwrong so often.
Yeah, we just fe right off.
At least that's what she tells Me.
So.
Oh, God.

(11:40):
These are.
These are the questions.
How about.
How about the man she texts?
There you go.
That's a good one.
I think that's the best answerwe've ever gotten.
I. I agree.
Yeah.
Brett, I agree also with you.

(12:01):
Okay.
Would you describe yourself ascorn fed or grass fed?
Corn.
Corn.
Corn.
Corn fed, yeah.
Corn fed.
Absolutely.
Meat, potatoes.
Yeah.
Leanne's the only one that.
That is possibly on theprecipice of grass fed.
The rest of us sure like that.

(12:23):
Oh, here's one of your favorites.
Boxers, briefs or thongs?
Yeah.
For me or for your favorite?
For you.
Yeah, for you.
How about the good old boxer brief?
Boxer brief.

(12:43):
Be honest, Brett.
Be honest.
You.
Your thong drawer.
I've seen it.
Banana hammock.
What?
Yeah, banana hammock.
Banana hammock, yeah.
Artisial slingshot.
If you were an animal, whatanimal would you be and why?

(13:05):
A lion?
Because it's my favorites.
They're majestic.
I love large animals.
Lions always been my favorite.
And I just.
Yeah, that's pretty much my favorite.
I love just the way that they.
They stay together.
The family and the pride.
And so, yeah, that's my answer.
I would say either asilverback gorilla because they're

(13:28):
just tough and nobody'smessing with them and same thing.
Rhinoceros, one of my favorites.
But a rhino, nice and tough.
Nobody's messing.
I feel like they could justchill wherever they are and then
just go eat and, you know, goto the water and hole without having
to worry.
Yeah, they don't have much toworry about.
Yeah, yeah.
And they're thick skinned.
I wish I had thicker skin.

(13:51):
That's got to be tough.
You know, a little philosophy here.
But you being a teacher andworking with kids, I mean, I'm sure
sometimes you wish you hadthicker skin like that.
But also, you've got to have alot of compassion to do what you
do.
I. I would not do that.
I mean, I could not.

(14:11):
I'd be like, no, out, youknow, But.
But patience.
Patience.
Yeah.
Yes.
Teaching, especially I teachhigh schoolers now, and it requires
a lot of empathy.
A lot of.
I try to really look at their situations.
I always remind.
I try to remind other teachersthat a lot of these kids aren't going
home to us as educators, as parents.

(14:32):
They don't have two parents,educators sitting down with them,
doing their homework.
A lot of them, they're cominghome to take care of the siblings
because the parents are outworking another job.
So I try to empathy with themwith me and understand and Try to
teach from a perspective thatis more meaningful to them because,
yeah, it can be tough.
A lot of them don't make it easy.
But you know, you justremember that and, and the end ends
up being worth it.

(14:52):
So.
Absolutely satisfying.
Absolutely.
We're talking with Adam andBrett Walton, the wall twins on YouTube.
They're YouTube sensations.
I will say, what's the firstthing you do when you get up in the
morning?
Absolutely.
First thing you do.

(15:12):
First thing I do is now it'sthe bathroom.
Yeah, but, but yeah, becauseI, because I do a morning show.
My day starts so early, so Ihave everything, usually like to
have everything set up, myclothes out and everything shower
the night before so I don'thave to worry about showering in
the morning.
So yeah, it's, it's, it's thetoiletries and brushing the teeth

(15:33):
and there you go.
And stretching out and justwaking myself up as quickly as.
There you go.
Very first thing, same thing.
I get up at 5:30.
Very first thing I do is Igrab my phone and I wonder what life
choices led me to where I haveto get up at 5:30 in the morning.
I do some self reflection andsome contemplation in that short
walk from the bed to the bathroom.

(15:53):
I do a lot of mumbling.
So yeah, yeah, you know the,the Tina Cannon, we had her on last
year and we asked her thatquestion and this big southern accent,
she goes, you mean the firstthing I do after I pee?

(16:15):
Yeah, well, that's the first thing.
What's one thing you missabout your time in college or school?
Man, you know, the funniestthing about being in school is I
think, and this is life, isn't it?
When you're younger, you can'twait till you're 16 because you can
drive and you can't wait tillyou graduate because you have more
time.
And then, and I, you know, Iwas married in college and I actually

(16:38):
had three of my four kidswhile in college.
And I, I miss the simplicityof it, you know, I just.
So many good memories of justwalking, study and I will say I went
to school when I was older.
I graduated when I was 34.
I think I, I'd done retail fora number of years before I decided
I wanted to go school and Imiss the simplicity of it.

(16:59):
But I loved studying and I'mgrateful that I went when I was older.
I think if I would have goneright out of high school, I would
not have enjoyed it as much.
I don't think I would havedone as well, so I think for me,
that's what it is.
Just the time, the time that Ihad and really just enjoying throwing
myself into learning new things.
Yeah.
For me, other than friends andcamaraderie, I miss dearly my body.

(17:24):
I could eat whatever I wantedand I could walk around my shirt
off all day every day anddon't get the same reaction from
the chicks these days.
Yeah.
My problem is if I go to thebeach, Greenpeace is always trying
to push me back in the water, you.
Know, keep rushing water overyou to keep you alive.

(17:50):
Pouring on your head, you know.
Do you have a favorite classic movie?
And I use this as an examplealmost every show.
Mine is Casablanca.
Leanne's is Willy Wonka.
It's not.
I was going with you.
I'm like, okay.

(18:10):
Actually, hers is ReservoirDogs, I think so.
One of them.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But do you have a favorite?
Probably much.
Probably Rocky.
Yeah, yeah, it was, you know,our dad was a boxer and, and so we
watched the.
All, all the Rockies with himand still can able to be able to

(18:31):
watch it today.
Even though I haven't watchedin several years, I still haven'.
That same enjoyment from the,you know, the beginning until he's
running up the stairs.
So, you know, he's, he'sfighting Apollo and it's just, just.
Yeah.
All time.
Great, great.
Classic.
I agree.
For me, for me, I've watchedthe Princess Bride more than any
other.
It's not even close.

(18:52):
Hundreds of times.
Me to meet the princess.
Brian.
Well, here's to Carl Weatherswhen you talk about Rocky.
So here's the.
We'll mention Carl.
Yeah.
So, Adam, this is.
You're a teacher.
Do you think that cooking canhelp kids who are having trouble
in math?

(19:13):
Oh, good question.
I'm horrible at math andcooking still hasn't helped me.
I, I think it can for surewith, with basic math.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Measurements.
Yeah, yeah.
And things like that.
And I think that thatdefinitely helps.
So.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think, I think cooking,aside from that, you learn a lot
of discipline and other thingsthat you have to do.
And to learn some of thosethings, it does expand.

(19:37):
And I think those of us whoare educators today, we feel like
where we've really gotten awayis teaching kids basics.
We've gotten so focused oncontent and what they need to know
to test for the next level.
We've gotten away from some ofthe basics and I think that some
of that would really help.
So I think, absolutely.
Teaching cooking with again,the discipline, the respect for the
process, respect for heat,respect for the way things come together,

(19:58):
and, yeah, even math.
You got to get those measurements.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Only a couple more here, guys,and we'll let you go.
We're going back to the.
If you could dine with andcook for a historical figure, you've
had 19 minutes to think about it.
That's okay.
I do have mine, and onlybecause it's one person.
I don't know why.

(20:18):
Maybe just from childhood.
I would love to meet Michael Jordan.
So I'd love to cook for Michael.
And I consider him historicalbecause I think.
I still think he's the goat in basketball.
Oh, yeah.
I will fight.
I will fight my students about that.
Team LeBron.
I'm like, no, Michael.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
And I think that nothing wouldmake the man happier than some seriously

(20:38):
really perfect filet mignon ora big ribeye with some nice mashed
potatoes from scratch andmaybe even some fries to dip in those
mashed potatoes, a little bitof sided gravy, and some greens.
So either some broccoli on theside or just as basic as it can be,
but just, I think, steak and potatoes.

(20:59):
Super, super easy.
That's my thought.
There you go, Brett.
It's funny, like, this is.
Sometimes we twin a lot like this.
I was gonna go with MichaelJordan as well, because you did that.
I'll go with another one.
I thought of Tiger Woods.
Really simple.
Smash burgers would be quick.
We could eat.
We could get on the course,and they could teach me a thing or
two because I just gave himthe best burger he's ever put in
his game.
I'll have to get you hooked ongrilling at the Green, Brett.

(21:21):
Yes, you do.
I love it.
Yes.
Let's do it.
Okay, last question, andyou'll see.
Why.
What would your last meal beon death row?
Oh, boy, man.
A little bit of everything.
Yeah.
Burger, a good steak.

(21:43):
You know, a good cut of steak.
I even have to have.
I'd have.
Yeah, I'd have to have a sideof pasta, some maybe orange chicken,
a loaf of garlic bread.
A loaf.
At least.
I mean that.
If that doesn't kill youbefore, you know, being on 10th Road.
Right.

(22:04):
Can it be death by food?
That's.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
I remember they did a.
God, who was it?
Julia Roberts?
Brother Eric was on a TV show,and they didn't know it, but he had
a peanut allergy, so he asked.
And he was on death row, so heasked for a peanut butter sandwich,

(22:27):
and they ate him, and he died.
You know, had the anaphylacticshock and died right there.
And I thought, one, that wasvery good writing.
But two, it's like, yeah, ifyou really don't want to go sit in
Old Sparky, grab the peanutbutter, you know?
There you go.
Yeah.
Find out what'll get you.
Yeah.
But if it's not clear, we'redefinitely savory dudes.

(22:48):
We love our sweets, but, man,we'll take the savory over the sweet
anytime time.
There you go.
You sound like Leanne.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
She does like her sweets.
She likes her sweets, but notas much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Same Adam and Brett, folks.
It's Adam and Brett Waltonfrom the Wall Twins.
You can find them on YouTube.
They work with pit boss.

(23:08):
They're working with someother people.
They've got a couple of booksout, which.
Leanne will get them.
I won't, so.
But I'll cry.
I'll cry and have them send meone for Christmas.
That's what we'll do.
Yeah, we'll take care of it.
All right.
But I see you guys in Daytona.
Yeah.
Yes, we can.
Yes.
We're so excited.
We're so excited.
Yeah, it's gonna be great.
You gotta.
You gotta keep an eye on herfor me, okay?

(23:31):
We're gonna do a lot of stagetime with her, so we'll definitely
be close.
There you go.
I'll be watching Tiger woods,so you.
You guys can do that.
Anyway, thanks for.
Thanks.
You guys have been great guests.
Thank you so much.
And I appreciate you so muchfor having us.
Thanks for the invite.
You bet.
We will be back next week withanother edition of After Hours with.

(23:53):
Carolyn will be with us.
Carolyn Wells, like I saidearlier, so please tune in for that.
Remember our motto.
Go out there, turn it, don'tburn it.
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