Beating The Book: 2021 Week 9 NFL Guessing Lines Show with Chris Andrews

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book that is not the entire hotel casino sports book
part of it. Christie Andrews, how are you doing? Man?
I got enough problems running the sports book. You don't
want to give me, couldn't do it, don't want to
run the buffet wearing You're wearing your Pittsburgh Steelers tie
and what, Jeff, what did you greet him with? Oh?
Your ridiculous football team? What did you ridiculous? Pittsburgh Steelers

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are gonna win the ANFC north Well they're they're game behind,
they're half a game out of the wild card. I
mean they're in the hunt. By the way, I wore this,
you know, well, obviously because the Steers one, but also
a gift just in the last couple of days from
Roxy Rocksburgh. There you go, shout out, I can't wear
this today? When am I gonna wear? There? You go, well,
that's exactly right. I'm sure you'll have other Pittsburgh garb

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like Pittsburgh socks. I don't think a gymnast, but there is.
There is. First of all, I guess you guys had
a spectacular week behind the desk. We did, Okay, so
we're talking about a an NFL weekend. We'll get to
every little detail we can to the next two hours. Uh.
A weekend where the Vikings, Bengals, Lions, and Colts were

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the most picked teams in circum million three. I'll say
that again, the Vikings, Bengals, Lions, and Colts in that order.
A weekend where Gino Smith, Mike White, Trevor Simming and
Cooper rush one National Football League games. Uh, and the
Bengals alone and survivor Circus survivor. And I think this
is reflective of most survivor pools around the nation, took
out over forty percent of all entrants. When all was

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said and done yesterday, forty four point two percent of
all entrants were out there. By the way, are the
circus survivor eliminations from yesterday. Look at that forty eight
hundred seventy one of the ninety three gone yesterday. We're
on the Bengals and we'll get to all the details
about that here momentarily. So for the first time. And
by the way, that the Chiefs, who I'm on in survivor,

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that's a whole mess of entries tonight as well, So
hopefully no more carnage for those of us who have
the chiefs. But we have finally gotten to the point
this year, and that where we have fewer entries now
than we did to begin last season. We've finally gotten
to that point. So tell the whole story. The prize
money is a lot more too. Oh yeah, well, there
were four thousand eight entries this year and there were

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ninety I believe to start last year. But there's no
time him to lose. As they say, let's go to
Thursday night because there's so much to talk about here. Well,
you have you have arguably the two best games of
the NFL season to cover right out of the gate.
Because the Jets are playing the Colts on Thursday Night
Football this week. That's one of the best games in
the NFL season. The two games involving from yesterday. Yes,

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now what you're saying, um, yes, So let's start with
the Jets. The Jets beat the Bengals yesterday in the
Survivor Carnage game. And for those who had the Bengals
will get to the stuff at the end here, but
let's just say this, thirty four to thirty one Jets.
In the first half of this game. The Jets were
minus three in turnovers. They were minus three in turnovers

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in the first half of this game, and they were
down three points. That's when you kind of knew something
something was going on here with this game. They were
up seven and nothing and plus territory. Mike White threw
a pick. It was returned sixty five yards. They did
make a goal line stand, but then Mike White turned
right around through an interception deep in his own territory
that led to his seven van tie. By the way,

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the Jets also in the first half missed a fifty
four yard field goal that didn't come back to haunt them.
The Crowder fumble late in the half did. That led
to a seventeen to seven Cincinnati lead. White also was
hurt midway through the jets first drive of the third quarter.
Josh Johnson came in briefly. Joe Flacco wasn't ready yet.
But here's the deal. The Jets scored on five straight
possessions between the second and fourth quarters, three touchdowns, two
field goals. With White back in the game, they were

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down thirty one to twenty. He engineers in eight play
seventy five yard touchdown drive, Ty Johnson nineteen yard touchdown catch,
two point play fails. First play for Cincinnati. On the
ensuing drive, Shack Lawson from point blank range, tips of
the Borough pass picks it. Two plays later, White to
cross for thirteen yards. White then catches two point trickeration
from Crowder, who's been great everywhere he's been. Duke Washington

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Jets thirty four thirty one Jets, and just like that,
we have drama. The Jets stopped the Bengals on the
ensuing drive, but with all three timeouts in a two
minute warning left the Bengals correctly punted the football. Here's
where it gets Ackey the first of a myriad of
wackiness yesterday in the NFL. With two oh eight left,
two minutes and eight seconds left in the game, Cincinnati

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is all their time outs. The Jets then try to
bail out the Bengals. Elijah Moore on a reverse runs
out of bounds with two oh four left, and for
those of us who were not on the Bengals and survivor, like,
what are you doing? Then at the two minute warning,
the Jets false start, so it gets the third and
eleven at their own twenty. Cincinnati still has all three

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time outs. Mike White, who had a spectacular game which
we'll get to in a minute, throws it short of
the sticks to Ty Johnson, a play that had no
chance of converting whatsoever. Ty Johnson, then, like any football
player might do, lowers his head and Mike Hilton, the
dB of the Bengals, has the horrific luck apparently, as

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we learned moments moments after, of ducking his head at
the same time and is called a flag goes on
the field. He's You're like, oh my god, what is
this flag? Unnecessary? Roughness helmet to helmet. Horrible call. Horrific,
horrible call, I mean just horrible. Cincinnati still has two timeouts.

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They use one of them after a short first down game.
Then on second and eight, Michael Carter could have clinched
the game, but inexplicably, inexplicably slide short of the sticks.
You're like, well, what is happening? A third and one?
Then Mike White sneaks the ball. I have no idea
to this moment if he got it, but we never
saw a measurement. They gave him the first down ball game.

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I'm texting jeff I'm like, how did he flay? How
did is? Are they gonna measure nothing? First down? We win?
We meaning everybody who didn't have the Bengals. White ends
up Mike White, the Great Mike White and dare I say, Jeffrey,
who's a Jets fan? Do we have a quarterback controversy?
He keeps playing this way when Zack Wilson is healthy?
Methinks we do? Do. Mike Mike White out of Western

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Kentucky thirty seven of forty five for War oh five,
four or five. Only Cam Newton with more in his
debut since nineteen fifty the most buy a Jetson's viny
testa verity in two thousand three touchdowns. Those two picks.
I mentioned uh Sack twice. He only threw eight in
completions on forty five passes. Carter fifteen seventy seven on

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the ground with a touchdown, nine catches yards, Crowder eight
for eighty four five hundred and eleven total yards, and
all the while by being minus two in turnovers for
the game, minus three and the first half of minus
two in the game. And then there's the Colts. I mean,
we were gonna take a whole show to do one game.
There's the Colts who lose to the Titans. More on
the Titans later, because that's the other thing that happened

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this morning. Derrick Henry could be out for the year
case you missed, which is just so sad for football fans.
It's so sad for betters, which will I'll get to also.
But Indianapolis they lose to Tennessee. Indianapolis had a fourth
and two at the Tennessee thirty eight less than you know,
barely two minutes into the game. They converted. They got
a touchdown on a subsequent fourth and goal from the two,

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then fourth three at the Tennessee forty with two nine
left in the first quarter, they were up fourteen nothing,
they went for it and failed. That led to a
Tennessee touchdown drive. So those are some of the fourth
the fourth down at Shenanigans of the first half. But
while Carson Wentz his ball handling is is clearly the
most awesome thing I've ever seen? What have we said
on this show over and over? He does that whirling

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jurist Jamis Winston thing and it just kills him. And
at the most important time of that game, first intend
at their own eight with one thirty three left in
the fourth quarter, Wentz one of those things where he
shifts it to the other other hand and he just
throws it up in there. Elijah Molden two yard touchdown interception.
Is that the worst interception you've ever seen? Yes, um,

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sixty five years old and watching football as I can remember,
might be the worst interception I've ever seen in my
life given the circum giving the circumstances tie game with
would you say a minute thirty three seconds left at
your own eight? Yeah, I mean that's the that that's
just so incredibly stupid. Just stupid. But you know what

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the Colts have up their sleepy They have perfected the
throw the ball up in the air. They've done this
to they throw it up and then more teams should
incorporate this. I'm not even joking, throw it up in
the air and have a dB run mindlessly into your
wide out and get a big flag spot of foul.
So they did it yesterday. First intent at the Tennessee

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forty six with one thirty three left in the third
quarter when they were down seventeen and fourteen. And then,
of course famously after that horrible pick a p I
in the end zone. Uh, second intent at the Tennessee
forty three with thirty two seconds left in the game
and we're going to overtime. Of course, then whence there
was another pick with five sixty six left in overtime
of his own tent seven. Kevin Byard returns it to

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the thirty that led to Randy Bullock forty five yard.
The second pick was worse than the first. No, no, no,
I'm sorry, yes, Jeff No. The bizarre thing from just
from the gambling perspective with the Wentz pick six that actually,
other than negably passed a pick six was significantly better
for cults betters than a safety because because obviously maybe

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they don't even get the ball back right guaranteed to
get the ball back, of course, they scored a touchdown,
and let's face it, you get the ball first, and
over time, you're gonna win more times than not. The
theme of both of those games is that the NFL
seriously has to change those two rules. The spot of
foul pass interference you have to you have to be
able to make it fifteen or that, and I know

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people like, oh, just what we want more subjectivity for
the rest. I'm sorry that changes the game too much.
I've been saying that for years. Should either be you know,
one more decision for the reps. I understand, but either
spotifile or fifteen yards in a first down. You know,
I've said this to Brent before, Brent Musberg, and he says,
we will. Now then then all the d backs will
just grabbing. It will be a fifty year penalty over

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and over. I'm like, that's fine, that's better to me.
By the way. The other thing is that the runner
lowing going back to the Bengals Jets things, the runner
lowering his head and the defender playing actual football and
getting flagged for playing football. We've got to do this
just you cannot bet on this stuff anyway. All of
that to say, we'll talk more about over the break,

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but that was the fact that these two teams ended
up playing each other with probably the most eventful games,
and there were so many eventful games. Yesterday, I have
Indianapolis minus seven and a half. WHOA, you're way low,
am I. Yeah, it's ten and a half. My numbers
come more like fourteen. Oh my god, I know we've
gone this whole segment. We're almost getting one game. Yes,

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this was gonna happen, this thing where the cults are
overrated by the market. I'll take the Jets. Okay, we'll
talk about it. Let's talk about it afterwards. Um, so
much coming up, including you know, waiting on a Derrick
Henry m R. Right this morning, we'll talk about it
all A numbers game in visa guessing lines the Sports
Betting Network. In case you missed it this morning, here

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is the what only can be described for all football
fans and all and I believe football betters as well,
which I'll get too momentarily as really sad news Derrick Henry.
This first from Adam Schefter over at ESPN. UM you
may have seen Derrick Henry limping on the sidelines during
the game. I should I didn't really think anything of it, um,
as I'm sure most didn't. But this morning, Adam Schefter,

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Titans running back Derrick Henry suffered a potentially season ending
foot injury during the Titans thirty one win over Indianapolis.
Sources reported to ESPN Henry is undergoing an m r
I today to determine the full extent of the damage.
And then Jay Glazer has added to this by being
a little more specific on the injury. Jay Glazer saying
hearing Derrick Henry broke the fifth metatarsal of his foot.

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No bueno, says Jake Lazer. No bueno indeed, And for
me in a sport, in a in a league the NFL,
where betting pre flop a t s is about as
plink oh as it comes. Betting the Titans, for those
of us who had them ranked, I think a pro
appriately much higher than conventional wisdom, and I think that's

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bared out the last few weeks. This was one of
the few little slivers of betting edge I think we've
had in this league thus far this year, and now
that could be going away. So just and just brutal
for football. And then of course it has implications and
all kinds of betting markets like most rushing yards, Offensive
Player of the year. Um. But all of that just

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that was that was what made the Titans so interesting
and such a different kind of football teams that they
were throwback. They always had this get out of jail
free card with Derrick Henry. And now is there a
player that means more to his team than Derrick Henry does?
Not for non quarterback? For sure. There's their last three
games to beat the Bills, the Chiefs, and the Colts. Yeah,

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what happens now? Speaking of which, let's get back to
the cultures Titans later. I think your number is way
too short, and I see the game ten and ten
and a half. I'm gonna be on the high end
of the market ten and a half. Uh. First of all,
it's the Jet. Let's not get carried with one game.
Michael White played great, you know, Michael White played great.
Inside joke, Uh, but it's still the Colts. I say

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I say this anecdotally. I can't go back and prove it,
because my thought process here is way too subjective. But
I think on these Thursday night games, the veteran team,
the veteran coach, the veteran quarterback is gonna weigh out perform.
You have a rookie staff with the Jets, not just
head coach, the whole staff. You have a he's not

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a rookie, but a completely untested quarterback before yesterday. I
think those kind of factors weigh in on the Colts,
and I like the Colts a lot. In this game,
my numbers come to like fourteen uh and and again
I'm looking diminishing returns. Mark that off on your Bingo card,
you know, but I thought that was probably a little
too high. But I'm gonna be on the high end

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of the market here. Like I said, it's ten ten
and a half, I'm gonna use ten and a half.
I can't disagree with that anything you said. And Mike
White could be a one hit wonder. We don't know, right, um,
But I just don't understand the love for the Colts.
I just don't well, you know, I gotta say I
I had them too, you know, I mean I had
that love for him too. So I mean that was
one of the games. I think when we went back

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the last week, I wasn't one of the sides I gave,
but I had two winners, by the way, but that
was not one of them. But I did like the
number higher on the Colts. I like, I like the
move on the Colts like that didn't dispute it. But
I understand what you're saying, Jeffrey. Maybe we have a
shorter game to get to them. That that last one,
which is epic, well it goes goes backwards from there.

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Houston and Miami. Oh, there's not much to say here,
is there? One? In seven verses one and seven, can
I make two lines, a Torodd Taylor line in a
Davis Mills line. I think I will Houston yesterday in defeat,
and what a cosmetic score that ended up being thirty
eight to twenty two. After being down thirty eight to
nothing to the Rams yesterday, Davis Mills for three ten

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to touchdowns, one Picky sacked five times and Cook six
of eighty three or six eighty three, four touchdown. Then
Miami loses to the Bills to thirty nine for two
oh five no touchdowns. One Picks act twice four for
ten on the ground with a touchdown. Davante Parker eight
catches eighty five yards but only two d sixty two
totally yards for the Miami offense and their twenty six

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to eleven loss at Buffalo yesterday, the Miami offense just
painful to watch. They were minus two in turnovers, including
a horribly botched snap inside the red zone at the
twelve yard line with the game tie three to three
with twenty four seconds left in the second quarter. The
snap hit a a Mike gasec I think Mike Gasecki

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was in motion. Mike Gisicki was in motion and it
hit him, hit him in the booty or something, and
then it was a fumble. It was just awful. Nine
penalties or fifty eight yards. Also for the Dolphins, flora Is,
by the way, down seventeen to nine, went for two,
got it to make it seventeen to eleven with nine
thirty nine left. So on another day we could have
the whole knocking it down from eight to six point
conversion conversation, because I'm all for it, and I know

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some people makes their heads explode, but mathematically it is
the thing to do. It is if you want to
win the game, that's the thing to do, because ultimately
it gives you a roughly at chance. Trust me on
the numbers here winning the game, whereas kicking the extra
point essentially gives you a percent no chance of tying

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the game. So yeah, I am, he was explained to me.
I understand. Anyways, it's used in at Miami. If it's
if it's Davis Mills, it's Miami by seven. If it's
Trod Taylor, it's Miami by no more than three. Well,
I made the number considering Uh, Davis Mills the quarterback,

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UM seven. Uh, well, my numbers came to six. Okay,
you know, I mean Miami. He's talking about disappointing. I
don't know if they're the most they got and my
numbers coming six, I see it seven. Uh, there's some
seven with juice on the favorite. I see seven and
a half juice on the dog. I'm gonna open seven.
I think it is a decent place to start. We're
gonna go there. Okay, next Jeffrey Denver, Dallas, Denver head Dallas,

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Oh god, Denver two. It just doesn't matter what team
you bring up. There's something to talk about today. Denver
beats Washington, they snap a four game losing streak of
the process Teddy Bridgewater nineteen of two thirteen, one touchdown
note pick stacked four times Melvin Gordon ten or forty
seven ten for forty seven rather on the ground and
touch down, three catches fifteen yards and the touchdown catching
the ball seven of thirteen on third downs were the Broncos.

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They only had two hundred and seventy three total yards.
They only had seventeen first downs. That was plenty to
beat Washington seventeen to ten. Oh god, Denver did nothing.
Still beat Washington and covered and covered. That was one
of the sides I gave was Denver. Here's the thing
that happened. With thirty seven seconds left in this game,

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Denver's up seventeen to ten. Denver decides, you know, we're
gonna run the football. They fumble it and recover it
on first down, and you're like, WHOA, what an opportunity
that would that was for Washington. My goodness, that was
the moment second down Denver decides, you know we're gonna
throw the ball and risking incomplete pass to stop the clock. Also,

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because why make Washington used timeouts? Incomplete pass third down.
You're like, Okay, at this point, Denver, you fumbled on
first down and we're lucky enough to recover. You threw
it incomplete pass. Just just have Teddy Bridgewater kneel on it. Nope,
they run it and they do fumble it again. At
this time they lose the fumble with twenty With twenty

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one seconds left, Washington gainst the ball to Dever twenty four.
Like this is bisar chick without the return. This is
just like you can't if Denver forget if they lose it,
the coaching staff should be fired on the spot. Of course,
Washington couldn't do anything with it. So there's that Oh god,
who are they playing? Oh? Dallas, Dallas last night? Man

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Cooper uh and the Cowboys they sit dock and they
beat the Vikings. That is, this has more to do
with the Vikings to me than it does the Cowboys. Yes,
but we'll get to that. The Cowboys. Cooper rush twenty
four or forty three, twenty five, two touchdowns, one pick,
sack three times, Cooper eight for one to touchdown, Ceedee
Lamb six catches for one twelve, Wilson three catches for
eighty four and in a game changing touchdown, also one

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of one as a passer for thirty five yards. What
a beautiful dime that was on the run. How gorgeous
was that pass from Cedric Wilson? They were seven or
fourteen on third down. Dallas won that game last night
minus two in turnovers, despite being minus two in turnovers,
and despite committing eleven penalties for nineties six yards and
the Cowboys go to six and one. Cowboys, buy a
bunch here. I would think I would think it'd be

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close to ten. I said, Dallas minus nine and a half,
and what my number comes to nine and a half. Uh,
most guys have this off Westgate. Kudos to them. They
have it up eight and a half and that's the
only one in town. I see it as low as
seven and a half on the on the internet. I'm
gonna wag just dak means too much, you know, um,

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but nine and a half I think with Dac and
I kind of have a hunch. Holl play here. Gives
me a minute for a little speech that I have
with you know, all these anytime you're betting dogs and
people always looking at oh, they have no chance to win.
And I was in Cooper Rush a good example. Every
guy who's in these leagues, whether it's the Major League, baseball, basketball, football,

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remember that guy in high school that was way better
than everybody else, He's probably not good enough to be
on one of these rosters. The rosters are filled with
guys that are way better that So don't think a
dog has no chance to win. Again. It's such a
great point. I said about tennis a lot too. There
there are two guys in my high school that could
be anybody in d C. They were so great. And
I saw him at the like that the tour stop,

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the pro tour stop once like years later, four years
later after college, I was like, you guys going pro?
They're like kill come on, like those guys are so
much better than Yeah, yeah, I mean I could think
of guys on my high school team, you know, you
know baseball football that never made it to the majors,
never made I mean, I know one guy faced maybe

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two games pitch for the Cups will come back. More
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they announcing n L M v P tonight. No Tonight
at six pm Eastern three pm Pacific on MLB Network Live,
they are announcing the three finalists for all of the

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major baseball awards m v P, CY Young Manager of
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But only the three finalists. We have to wait another
week to actually get the winners of all of those,
culminating with m v P on the eleventh of November.
So there's your answer to that. James underscore a g
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three and o A T S. That's pretty tom f
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the old updates with Flatterman. I just want to hear
a snarky bank Will was lose to Mike quite numbers
game tweeters are the best. Arthur Middleman, Paris Tennis picks

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plays football is killing me. Uh. This is from the
Charitable Gambler guessing lines in ten minutes. He tweeted this
tenuts before the show. I believe Gil is seven and
four on the season. With his initial NFL thoughts, Chris,
he is six and oh in the last two weeks.
I'm sure Uncle Jack would be proud, he said, Uncle
jud Um, and then j Rod Always's responded to Aaron
Shots the curse of three seventy carries. I believe Aaron

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Shots meant to say not three und seventy wins. With
Derrick Henry's uh, Derrick Henry's injury here, um, let's see
yeah and Dan Cobald Yeah. I guess you can add
the Titans to the list of franchises that abuse slash
don't protect their players. Derrick Henry On pays for a
staggering five hundred plus touches this year after three seven
last year? What could go wrong? People always looking for

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a reason. Sometimes they're flukey, sometimes they're not. The better
life Timmy lost and new NFL bettors must wonder what
the hype is abou out when all the pros and
experts are like, why do we bet on this? I
was only expressing that to say, forget the handicap of
the actual game itself. Then you've got to get through
the coaches. Then you've got to get through the referees
who reared their head in the most ugly way possible
yesterday and multiple ocasions. So please understand the players running

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out of bounds when they're not supposed to ning out
of bounds. They're not exactly Who had a sixteen second
drive yesterday with the lead? Oh, I can't remember. I
can't remember it either. Yeah, Parlay, you don't remember somebody
had a sixteen second drive with the lead and with
the burn a little clock, would you? Well? Again, the
worst driving to day yesterday with the especially since we

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had the Broncos in the contest. Yesterday the Broncos was
like an eleven second drive, eleven second, two fumbles, an
incomplete pass, basically giving Washington the only chance. That's the
worst thing. Ever. I think it was eleven seconds, don't
I think it was? All right, Jeff, what's next? Alright,
he'll coming up next? We get, oh, Minnesota at Baltimore. Okay,

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so that's let's listen. I'd like to say that's a
good game on paper. But after saying Minnesota yesterday, you
remember how last week we're like, okay, five teams in
the NFC are pretty much shoein's to make the postseason, right, Dallas,
Tampa Bay, Arizona, the Rams, and Green Bay. And I
think that still remains the same. But it's gonna be
a mad scrum for those other two, and we were like, well,
Minnesota's got to be the leader in the clubhouse for

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those other two. Man, this was such a bad performance
last night from the Vikings that it is hard to
ever say that again. Kirk Cousins was twenty three or
thirty five for one eighty four one touchdown. Note Pixy
was sacked once. Feeling was six or seventy eight in
a touchdown. But the Vikings were one of thirteen on
third down last night, one of thirteen. If you were

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toggling back between that in the baseball game, you you
could never tell which game to stay on because it's like, oh,
they're punning again. Oh they're punning again. Oh they're up
four runs. Oh now they're up for it. I mean,
it was just it was incredible. Plus two in turnovers
the Vikings were last night, didn't matter, lost to the
Cooper Rush led Cowboys. Sixteen. Baltimore is coming off of bye.
I'm gonna say Baltimore minus seven and a half. I

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don't quite like your number better, but it's close. I'm
seeing five and a half and there were some sixes
out there that got taken. I'm opening six my numbers
come to six and hap. By the way, we haven't
mentioned qb R yet. Kirk Cousins was thirty six point six.
I really thought this would be like a ten spot.
I thought he was terrible. I mean, he did not
give his team the opportunity. What was he one of thirteen?

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You said on third night? That's horrible. Um, so I
like the higher number your Ravens coming off the bye
I think Vikings are terrible. By the way, one of
my winners last week is I picked Dallas. Of course
before the Dak Prescott stuff and the parlay card. Guys,
you know, the main guy I'm talking about. They were out.
They could not get enough of Minnesota because I left

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it on the card. I had Dallas a two point
favorite on my ties wind card, that's the one they
liked to play. Left it on the car to figure
what the hell? Anyway, figure what the hell? And you
know is okay? But a little caveat here for Raven
fans and betters in the future. This is their fourth
straight home game, Is that right? I don't know that
I've ever seen that before with a buy in between between.

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They weren't in London, were they at all? Yeah? That
is straight home game. I don't remember ever seeing that
before in my life. That's fourth straight with a buy
in between. So maybe the Ravens are peeking right now
for a sort sort of reason. Anyway, I like this
game six, but be wary of the Ravens moving forward.

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What's interesting is that so far this week already I
like more games than I like the last two weeks combined,
which may or might not be Like the Ravens in
this spot too. Vikings the most picked team again once
again in circum millions three. Obviously with the with the
static line you can understand why that was the case.
But again Bengals, Lions, and Colts were also the second, third,
and fourth most picked teams yesterday as well in circumillion three.

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I love Baltimore at that number. What's next? Yeah? Also,
Mr Dinosaur, Mike Zimmers gotta be out of the job
sooner rather than last night. They were pretty good. You
must have had Minnesota, well we had him in the contest,
but I didn't. I didn't. I didn't love that. I
was just one of you know what, he's a defensive guy.
I think they're offensive coordinator might be worse, Like it's

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the it's and that's who Kubiak. That's Kobiak. So I
mean you're talking about a I think you said it's
a dinosaur, a a Jurassic coaching staff that's bad. Man.
Look at the Jets coaching staff is horrible too, with
all young guys, you know. So I think we need
a blend here. The put put put la Fleur in

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the booth and he's apparently the best offensive mind in football. Now.
So there you go there. Interesting game. Patriots said, Panthers
four and four against four and four? Right, Patriots beat
the Chargers. Man, let me just say this. Our power
ratings are in shambles. Everybody's power ratings are just exploded.

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After made a big adjustment on the Patriots after yesterday,
uh and the Chargers big adjustment to Uh. Patriots at
the Panthers Mac Jones yesterday and the win over the
Charges eighteen of thirty five or two seventeen, no touchdowns,
no pixibi sack once Damian Harris twenty three for eight
and a touchdown. The Patriots were nine of nineteen on
third downs in their twenty seven and twenty four outright

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win as a dog three and a half point dog
against the Chargers. They had a fourth and goal at
the one with eight thirty nine left in the second quarter,
down fourteen to seven incomplete. A lot of these teams
just allergic to field goals. Next time down, they kicked
the field goal. By the way Carolina, Carolina wins yesterday
against the Falcons. Carolina has allowed This is an interesting stat.

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Caroline has allowed fewer than two hundred passing yards six
times this season. WHOA, that's an amazing stating that was
only a hundred thirty one yesterday. Sam Donald in Victory
only had thirteen pass completions thirteen for twenty four for
one twenty nine, no touchdowns, no picks. He wasn't sacked.

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He had eight carries for sixty six yards. Chewa Hubard
two touchdown ten of seventeen on third down where the
Panthers against the Falcons. They held the Falcons to two
thirteen total yards and it didn't look like it was
gonna start good. Jew Hubbard fumbled on the very first play,
led to a three to nothing Atlanta lead. Donald hit
his head on the turkey had to leave midway through
the fourth quarter. Um just he was banged up left

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and right, but it was enough to beat the Falcons
nineteen to thirteen. All that put in the wash. I
think the Patriots are the favorite. I think they're the
better football team. I think certainly there's a there's a
Belichick factor here. I didn't quite make it Patriots by
three on the road. I said, Patriots minus two and
a half. Well, you're like, it's three, My power raise
come to five. I made a big adjustment on New England.

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I was very impressed a couple of things. We got
flooded with New England money from sharp sharp bettors. I
always let that influence me. I have to take into
account who is betting what, and they flooded me with
New England money. They were obviously right. I mean, I
think this team's come around. I'm looking again at qbrs

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Mac Jones fifty two point eight. I thought it would
be a lot higher, and uh Sam Darrow fifty six
point three, I thought that would be a lot lower.
So once again the QBR a little bit deceiving. But
I think New England's kind of figuring it out with
this Mac Jones. And you know, they're just a kind
of team. I've heard people say that, Uh, Belichick practices
hard so his teams get better and better. And I

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know that practices are a little different with a you know,
kind of the last union negotiation. But I think this
team is getting better and better. I have them raised
pretty high. So, like I said, my numbers come to five,
I'm gonna open threes. I don't see anything lower. But
I will be at the top of the market here
with New England. I think I'm not gonna get overly
impressed with a Carolina went over a terrible Atlanta team. Yeah,
I'm not either. If if New England makes the playoffs,

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can anyone besides Bill Belichick win Coach of the Year?
Anyone is smit of got mac Jones chewing, no matter
how Stefanski or McDermott or Zach Taylor would still be alive.
Well maybe not after Yes, I'm just thinking it's it's

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It's just like Brady's is the m v P to lose.
I just think Belichick's is coach of the Year to
lose quick quickly. I will say this, if the Pittsburgh
Steelers make the playoffs, might com one deserves a crack
at that award? To a Yeah, we'll get to that.
Is he gonna go to college, but any chance he
was curious. Sorry, he's a little one wavering on that.

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We're going back. We're guessing lines Week nine numbers gave
Visent the Sports Betting Network Skill Alexander Christie Andrews. This
is uh guesting lines numbers game Visa the Sports Betting Network.
Paul Carr, our soccer guy who also used to work
at ESPN Stats and Information and now works a True
Media Networks, hosts the Expected Value podcast. Chimes in on
your question about four straight home games, says last year,

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the Steelers played four straight home games, though that was
because a road game against Tennessee got postponed for COVID reasons.
Before that, the last time a team played four straight
home games in a season was twenty sixteen. Both the
Dolphins and the Packers that year played four straight. I thought,
I gotta tell you, I would never have thought that.
Thank you, Paul car Yeah, that one just came to

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me while I was doing Baltimore, and Uh, I just
don't remember saying it. I missed the other couple. That's
the other beauty of the show that people who are
actually regulars all listened and can make corrections when quickly
and by the way, the other thing we said, uh,
you know, I was talking about where he learned his

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offensive theory firm. Anyway, point being that that copies have
is doing a horrific job. Um and getting back to
Dallas for a second, because we were just talking off
air about how, you know, I've said for many years
on this show, you can only win a Super Bowl
with a quarterback over forming on a rookie deal or
a Hall of Famer. The last time Nick Foles doesn't

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count because Carson Wentz was the guy that year. Really,
the last time a quarterback on a Super Bowl that
didn't qualify in those two categories, you have to go
back to Brad Johnson in two thousand, to Trent Dial
for two thousand at the Great Defense in Baltimore. You
just get. And so the joke of the economic structure
in the NFL is that you are forced to make
decisions on guys who are past the rookie deals but
are clearly not solidified as Hall of famers like Jared Goff,

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like Kirk Cousins. You're forced to make a decision to
give him a hundred million plus dollars. And we were
just talking about how Dak Prescott, the Cowboys end up
making the It's I don't know if the Cowboys are
smart or if they just get so butt lucky all
the time. But do we have to give Jerry Jones
credit for some of this stuff? Because that roster's packed
anything you can I'm just curious. I didn't want to

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make you do anything you didn't want to do, you
must get I certainly don't want to give him credit.
I'm just saying, all right, what's next? Buffalo and Ville?
Buffalo Jacksonville. Oh, that's gonna be the largest spread of
the weekend. Buffalo beats Miami. Wheread he talked about that,
Josh Allen, There's really not much to talk about that game.
Josh Allene. Two touchdowns, no picks, act zero times it

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carries fifty five yards in a touchdown. He always fills
up stat sheet. Beasley ten for one ten. Buffalo was
plus two in turnovers, as we mentioned, nine penalties for
eight yards. No problem. They still beat the Dolphins. And
then there's Jacksonville. Can I just say that I liked
Jacksonville yesterday and I even grabbed him in game at
plus ten. Never had a chance. The Jaguars record in

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North America is oh and six. Let's put it that way.
Go to London, they win, stay here in North America
and six. It's a sixth straight game that Trevor Lawrence
has had one touchdown pass or fewer. They're the only
team in the NFL yet to score twenty four plus
points in a game this season. And let me just say,
with the score twenty four to nothing. Now, remember eight

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times three equals twenty four. Last night checked, I think
I learned that in third grade Urban Meyer missed that class.
Uh he kicked the extra point when they scored to
make it twenty four to six. He's like, no, twenty
four to seven is good then, Just just to let
you know how ridiculous it is, he decided after that
to kick an onside kick, because if you're gonna kick

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the onside kick after that, definitely kick the extra point
before that and don't go for two. By the way,
Seattle returned it to the house. That was the end
of that. I mean, I know the game is over right, Like,
I'm not trying to act like they were gonna win
the football game, but act like you care, act like
your heads in the game. You're a pro. Played to
the gun. I'm sorry, it's your job. God bless or

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to the coach, to the gun. Lawrence thirty two fifty
three for two thirty eight, one touchdown, one picks that
once Arnold was his big target. I guess eight for
sixty eight. Carlos Hide nine carries for thirty two, six
catches for forty but twelve penalties for the Jaguars for
nine three yards. They lost to a team in Seattle
that only had two twenty nine total yards of offense.

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Jacksonville is terrible. Buffalo by thirteen on the road. How
about that? You're light? Uh, you're light. He doesn't disdain,
complete disdain. Uh, it's fourteen. Some guys opened this game
last night like ten and a half. I mean what
they were thinking. I have no idea. We talked about
diminishing returns. There's returns are gonna have to really diminished

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to cover this game. I can tell you that my
numbers come to eighteen and a half. I'm gonna open
fourteen and after there's no fourteen and a half out there.
I'm trying to get ahead of the game here. I guarantee,
come kick off, I'm gonna be rooting for Jacksonville. Come
in and get your fourteen and a half off me
as soon as I post them in nine oh five.
And by the way, backtrack one game too, I'm opening

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New England and a half. I'm just gonna get ahead
of that game to look at him again. I'll be
the only three and a half in the world. Come
on in and play it. Yeah, for those who are
wondering again, if not listening to guessing lines before, I'm
in a cocoon for yesterday. I don't know the numbers
I come up with. I think with the lines will be.
Christie tells me what he's going to post right after

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the show. These lines are not available to the South
Point till the show ends in a little over an
hour from now. And within that exercise, we tried to
extract some value from a betting standpoint for the upcoming
week's games. Usually, and this has been tried and true
over the years, our first instincts on this show are
better than any other instincts we have the rest of
the week. Yeah, it's really true. Here's like three half

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points I'm giving you. You want to go play numbers
that aren't there anyway? You can take six on the vikings.
You think three and a half on the Panthers, you
think four and a half on the Bills. No, nobody
else has those come on on the early window here,
I believe probably yeah we are. Yeah, this is the
girl the windows, small late windows. This hate that. It's
one of those uh wonderful scheduling. How many late games?

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Only three three late games while we're still in the
we're still we're going to Ohio Battle of Ohio. Cleveland's
Cleveland at since al right, here's where the Steelers come involved.
Because Cleveland losing to the Steelers yesterday fifteen to ten.
The Cleveland Browns are alone in the last place in
the a f C North at four and four. They

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had three straight games where they scored seventeen points or fewer.
Baker Mayfield twenty of thirty one for two twenty five,
no touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked four times, but
boy when he got a first down running, boy was
he excited. At one point, Sit down, Baker. The Cleveland
Browns only had three hundred six total yards. They only
had nineties six rushing, which is really where their bread
is buttered. They had a fourth and one of the

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Pittsburgh thirty nine to start the second quarter up three
to nothing, they went for it and failed. That's probably
the right play at thirty nine eight most penalty yards
entering week eight. They tamped that down a bit. But
here's the deal. Like Kevin Stefanski, who people love to love,
they were down fifteen to ten, he had all of
his time outs left. It was fourth and twelve with
the Pittsburgh twenty six. Late in this game, they went

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forward sta of kicking a field goal, in complete pass,
you had all your time outs left, kick a field goal,
you get the ball back. All you have to do
is kick a field goal to win. Nope, they went
for it. People allergic to field goals, they loved one
for it on fourth Downd. That's why diminishing returns. We
may have to amend that a little bit. They may
not be so diminishing. They're playing Cincinnati. We talked about

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Cincinnati being the survivor killer yesterday, and we talked about
the end of that game and what happened. But that's
three losses this season. All three losses for the Bengals
this season by a combined nine points. Joe Burrow thirty
four for two fifty nine three touchdowns, one picks at
three times, mixing fourteen for thirty three and a touchdown
on the ground, four catches for fifty eight and a
touchdown receiving Higgins four seven Boyd five or sixty nine

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in a touchdown Chase three forty two and a touchdown. Again.
They had a fourth and goal of the Jets three
we mentioned early in that game. With two o nine
left in the first quarter, down seven and nothing, they
went forward. Burrow got sacked, but Mike Wait through a pick,
so they got it right back and scored. But again
they were plus two inter and overs. They were plus
three in the first half and only led by three
at half time. They were plus two in turnovers for
the game where the Bengals, and again the power ratings

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are in shambles. Cleveland Cincinnati. I said, Cincinnati minus three.
I didn't know what else to say. Um My power
rains come to two and a half. It's mostly two
and a half with some juice on the favorite three,
with some juice on the dog. My power rains come
to two and a half. I'm gonna open two and
a half. Um, I'm gonna take issue with you on

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one thing. When Baker Mayfield got up and you know
xuber and after I think that was a message because
he he got hit on his left shoulder, which we
know was damage. You know, so he got up. I
think the show the fans and his teammates says, hey,
I'm still in it all the way. So I don't
down maker Baker because he landed on his throwing should
he But he got hit on his left shoulder, which

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was bad. So and by the way, we're talking about
guys who are gonna sign multimillion dollar contracts that probably
don't deserve it. Hello Baker. But I don't root against him.
I really don't because I want the league to do well.
But anyway, uh, like I said two and a half,
Before we go any further, I want to tell you
so Ryan Ground, he's in my office. He's the general
manager here. When we put in the uh we put
in the Bengal score, and yet this is Ryan come here.

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He comes out. He takes a look at their results
from that one game. His eyes got like this big.
It was a good result for us. Second time, you
remember all times. Second time, I don't want to tell
the other shore. We'll save that for some other times.
The second time that I saw Ryan's eyes get like
yeah in a good way. That was a carnage inducing survivors.

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Chrissie Andrews of course, the star of guessing lines. How
many years have we been doing this? Only seems like forever.
It's been enjoyable, ever since day one. This is This
is a tweet from Tommy Collins at Tommy Collins on
a five hour flight listening to the best show on Visa.
Does Chris take into account for any potential weather in

(43:16):
his first numbers? Thank you for a great listen, Um,
And I answered him already. No. I assume clear, clear,
and fast is what I assume at this point, and
by Tuesday I started looking at weather. Okay, that's that's
a solid question, Thank you, Tommy. That's a good question.
This from Joe Peter Joe Peter, who's gonna be on
the show tomorrow. Cannot wait for Joe Peter, he says, Um,

(43:39):
I have no signal in the room. He arrived at
the South Point for he's doing stuff here in town.
He's coming to the show tomorrow. He says, no problem.
You guys are so enjoyable in the morning. I should
book this as a condo and have my mail delivered here.
I hope we got one of the hardwood floor rooms
here at the South Boy, lovely south Wind. So your
fans wait here you go? How are you doing back there?

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All right? Next guessing lines still in the one o'clock
eastern again, big one o'clock eastern window. This week a
Vegas at the Giants. Vegas at the Giants. Okay, they
won't be much to stay here because Vegas is on
a bye. We're on a bye this week and the
Giants have you have to play Giants play tonight. So
I'm among the people who have the chiefs and survivor.

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And so when a team like the Bengals loses and
survivor on a Sunday but you have the Monday pick,
you can't really get all that excited because you're like well,
I'm glad that happened. But and I said this last
week number of times, I'm on a double digit. All
of us who have the Chiefs Tonight and Survivor are
on a double digit or thereabouts home favorite in a

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standalone game, and we're terrified, just terrified. Oh please, Chiefs, chiefs, please,
could you win this game? We appreciate it. Survivor is
about the heat up. Um, there's nothing else to really say.
We'll see what the Giants student night. They should have
some players back tonight, though, namely Darius Tony on offense,

(45:05):
a couple other offensive players Barkley and they're both out. Oh,
Barkley and Galladay are out. Okay, uh, Raiders by four
on the road. Once again, I like your number better.
It's three pretty much solid. Really, Um, I'm gonna open three.

(45:26):
I really like three. That better. But I'm worried about tonight.
I too, am worried about not so much the Giants
looking good, but the Chiefs looking terrible. Yeah, and I
have some reasons that I would want the Chiefs to
at least be okay, leave it at that, Okay, Um,
so I'll open to you, but I think that's light.

(45:46):
I really do I think that this number should be high.
It's Chrissie's wave saying he might know what I'm talking about. Um,
you know what the thing about the Raiders is, we
were we do our power rankings, but not only Jeff
and I, but Matt Brown, Kelly, Bill and I probably
time action and the one thing that we all kind
of agreed on, at least Matt Kelly and I was like,
I do think we we possibly are disrespectful of the

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Raiders because they were not in our top ten, none
of us. Well, like I said, I try to keep numbers,
you know, if I have a grading system, Not that
I'm married to it or anything like that, but I
definitely let it influence my power ratings. And Raiders are
probably higher than what your perception would be. So that's
one reason I have them higher. By the way, I
had a note here the Jets going on the road.

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On the Jets, if you look back, I've been much
better at home. Just the note that I had, so
I I know you were like the Jets this week.
I do not. I mean I don't love them. Don't
I have a mark next to the Colts. I like them,
I love I'd be careful, what's the next, Jeff, Come
on now, you gotta like the future Hall of Famer there, Gil,
let's go. I love a quarterback controversy between Mike White

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and Zach Wilson White, Micael White or Michael Micah White.
That's the whole thing, all right. Next shouts Atlanta at
New Orleans. We're still in the morning. This is the
final one o'clock Eastern game. Boy, that's gonna suck in
the afternoon. Next week, Atlanta at New Orleans. The three
and four Falcons the five and two Saints. So the

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Saints become the team in the driver's seat for those
last two playoff spots in the NFC. They're only a
half game behind the Bucks in the a f C
and the NFC South. Now Atlanta we mentioned loses to Carolina.
Atlanta now alone in last place in the NFC South.
It's a losing record for the Falcons through seven games
for the fourth straight season, so it doesn't matter who's

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been coaching through seven games four years in a row.
Losing record through seven games, Ryan Mattie Ice seven for
one six, one touchdown, two picks at three times only
two total yards of the Falcons there were only three
of ten on third down, and they got the word
before the game that Calvin Ridley, who missed a game

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a couple of weeks ago for personal matters, but he announced,
yeah today that he is stepping away from football to
focus on his mental well being. So there's a big
fantasy player for something, obviously a big cog in the
Falcons wheel. After you know, Julio Jones is no longer
with the team. You figured Calvin Ridley would take up
some of those, uh, some of that play and now

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he's he's stepping away, and so one would think Kyle
Pitts would be the beneficiary of that, but you know,
he dropped a big pass yesterday. Also, it's just it's
a team that's in turmoil there at the Saints. Saints yesterday,
I mean this year. Before we go any further, yeah,
I mean, well that's the thing we don't know. Jamis

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yesterday six of ten for fifty six and then if
you have one touchdown. Note Pis he was sacked zero times,
four carries for forty yards. He was tackled. It was
it was flagged the horse collar. It wasn't really a
horse collar, but it sort of had the effect of
a horse collar, whereas Jersey was grabbed and his knee
was wrenched and that was the end of James yesterday.
We don't know what his status is. Trevor Simeon he

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of Broncos fame from some years ago, and I used
fame lightly. Trevor Simeon ended up coming in the game.
He was sixteen of twenty nine for one fifty nine
one touchdown note picks. He was only sacked once and
he got the job done, or at least that New
Orleans Saints defense got the job done in a big way.
But Trevor Simeon did nothing, nothing at all poorly in
this game. Nothing to lose it for him, that's for sure.

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The Saints end up plus three in turnovers against the Bucks.
They really are Tom Brady's kryptonite. There was a fourth
and one of the New Orleans forty four with eleven
oh one left in the first quarter. The Saints went
for it. Camara got stuffed and you figured, okay, well
this is gonna be the Bucks day. Nope. Down twenty
seven to twenty six two minutes left in the game,
Tampa Bay had two time outs left. The Saints curiously

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called passes incomplete, incomplete, first and second downs. Tampa Bay
calmly used one of their time outs after third down,
after the third down play was short of their sticks.
That was the sixteen second That was the six and
a second drive, sixteen seconds off the clock, up a point, incomplete, incomplete,
and then Tampa Bay used the time And I was

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just about to say great things about Peyton go ahead,
that's right. What was Sean Payton thinking? I saw this
that I hate stats like this, but I just thought
i'd have to say it. Teams that apparently have one
on Monday Night football this year or seven and oh
the following game this season, some little quirky, meaningless dad,
But of course I had to say it. Apparently anyway,
New Orleans wins it. That's a huge win for New Orleans.

(50:30):
Just a gut gutty win for the Saints beating the Bucks.
We'll get to Tom Brady's you know, stats against the
Saints and against everybody else. I would say the Saints
will be six point favorites at home against their division rivals.
What are you assuming about Winston? I'm assuming. I'm assuming

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no Winston. I'm assuming the same thing. Yeah, I've heard
even some guys saying today he might be out for
the year. The issue becomes Taysom Hill got concussed on
October h against Washington, he still was not cleared to play. Yeah,
I'm not a doctor, but I mean I know those
don't lingering off a long time. So are we looking

(51:10):
at Trevor Simmons or that's what I'm looking at. I
said six because that is really good. Okay, considering that
I'm that, I'm thinking at Simeon. I made the number seven.
I think Atlanta is just god awful, just terrible. They
got bet against yesterday by wise guys. I agreed with
the move. Um, if you remember last week going into

(51:32):
that game, I made it pick him. Uh. So I
agreed with a move on Carolina. I think Atlanta is
just horrible. Uh even though the sixteen second drive notwithstanding,
I still say great things about Peyton. You know, I've
said it before in the show. Not many people agree
with me, but I think Drew Brees a little overrated
during his career. I think Peyton made him that much better.

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And here you go, Trevor Simmon. You know what is
his qbr Yes? Really good. Yeah for a guy he
looked very comfortable. He looked like a pro. All these guys, Cooper, Rush, Trap, Simeon,
Mike White, he looked really good. All that being said,
it's five and a half pretty much everywhere. I'm gonna
open six. There's another half point. If you want to
gobble that up, be my guest, you'll have the Falcons

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going for you all week. You know, good for you.
I think I like the Saints. Yeah, I like the Saints.
To Jeff, you have a couple of things on this
on this yeah, two two quick things. UH p f
T Pro Football Talk reporting that the expectation is Taysom
Hill is going to clear protocol and be available on
Sunday for New Orleans. UH. Jane Slater Ian Rappaport, both
of NFL Network. Jamis Winston apparent. A c L injury

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is what we're going with. UH, potential damage to mc L.
Sean Payton right there and in the postgame press conference
used the word significant injury. That's never a good sign.
So you're looking at UH, you're probably looking at a
a long time without Jamis here for New Orleans. A
Taysom Hill Trevor Simeon situation. Now well after the way

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Simeon played. I think I go with with Simon, and
I really think I would. Well, you know, Sean Payton
can't get himself enough. Taysom Hill though, Cordell store kind
of you know the way they used Cordell who was
like an okay quarterback but were great in that slash
role that they used him. Yes, you know, but I
would go with Simeon. And I like the Saints. Some

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just look at me. We have more games to get to,
but so far like I like the Ravens. I like
the Saints. Dare I say I like the Jets. Al
You're caught. I got a mark next to the Colts.
I like the Colts. You are sending me the yellow
caution blinking light. You're a big boy. You're gonna do
what you want. I am a large boy. STE want

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to do what I want here. Um okay? Uh So
we have three more afternoon games to get to. What
is it three afternoon games left? And of course two
prime time and two prime time okay, and then we
gotta review what we have teaser legs we have to discuss.
I don't even want to talk about Survivor because I
haven't gotten through Tonight's game yet, but I suppose we
will as well because next week, Oh my goodness, do

(54:09):
you have a lot of games to choose from. Oh again,
forty plus percent of Survivor Circus Survivor knocked out with
the Bengals lost yesterday. We'll come back. We'll do it all,
all those games and all that. Right here, Visa, these
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(54:55):
been told about before I went off on the Broncos earlier.
But hey, call him like a season. What are you
gonna do? By the way, Also, Altitude Sports Radio shouldn't
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point there now as well. I think there's an error
you were asking you sent off air that you're watching
Curb last night, Curb your enthusiast, and then you were saying, oh,
you wanted Susie Esmen to do this thing for you?

(55:16):
You know, have I told you this story? But not
back in my uh in my Johnny and Nitis San
Diego Charger Year of Music Radio, My Joe Namith Rams year.
You know the year where you know you're out, but
you're not quite out. Uh. She came on the morning
show that I did, Oh I didn't, and off air
I had her for I was like, for thirty seconds,

(55:38):
could you just curse it me like you would, and
then I'll beat out the parts and run it back
on air. So she did for thirty seconds. She just
went off. I would. I'd give a thousand dollars that
probably isn't watching her to her favorite charity to put
a message on my phone. But she has to use
the word or the phrase what she calls Jeff fat yeah,

(56:03):
somewhere mixed, and I'm sure she'd figure out how to
do that. She did. She was like, Gil you far Rid,
Oh yeah, I love Susie. On that show, she invited
us to the comedy show later that night that she
did in San Francisco. Had Jeff Garland, I was honest.
I've heard she's nothing like. Oh no, nothing at all,
nothing at all. Um. Okay, now we're to the afternoon games.

(56:25):
What do we got? Only three afternoon games? This sucks. Yeah,
very lame of the league after doing a really nice
job of distributing the wealth in these games. The first
eight weeks of the season, Chargers at Eagles is four
oh five Eastern. Talking about our power ratings going up
in shambles. Charges are down to four and three. Now

(56:46):
they're at the three and five Eagles. Justin Herbert yesterday
eighteen of thirty five or two three, two touchdowns, two picks,
act three times. What's going on with the Chargers? All
of a sudden Eckler always fills up a s a
statue eleven for sixty four on the ground with the touchdown,
six catches for sixty keenan Allen six or seventy seven
at a touchdown. They went for it on fourth and
one to New England seven in a scoreless game. Less

(57:08):
than four minutes in they converted it went up seven
to nothing. The Brandon Staley go for it part of
the game though he has gotten a little more nitty
with the fourth downs lately. Poker turn Philadelphia. All right,
so this is another one, Jeff? Is this the Is
this the moment where you do the Dan Campbell mia
culpa from last week? Is this when? Is this s
where you do it? I think all of us probably

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at Philadelphia destroys Detroit forty four to six. Who was that?
Jalen Hurts completed nine forward passes. He was nine of
fourteen for a hundred three yards, no touchdowns, no picks,
He wasn't sacked. Seven carries for seventy one yards, though
Boston's got twelve for sixty for two touchdowns. Howard Jordan

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twelve or fifty seven and two touchdowns Goddard six or
seventy two catching. They held Detroit to fifteen first downs
in two eight total yards. Just destroyed him. They didn't.
They didn't do anything. Forty four to six. But the
Charges will be favored despite them being on the road.
I'll say the Chargers by four. Wow, you're a little high.
My power rains come to three. It's pretty much two

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and a half everywhere I see one three with juice
on the dog, I'm gonna open the Chargers. I mean
you look at the Eagles. Uh first n hurts again.
QBR I like to use. It can be pretty decen
eighty six point three, I understand. And by the way, um,
Justin Herbert had the second lowest qb are the day

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sixteen point oh. The only one that beat him out
on the low end was Trevor Lawrence eleven point eight.
It's not good for Justin Herbert, envy pet no, no,
that he's gonna need to make a comeback. I'm gonna
open two and a half. Just I don't that I
lowered the Chargers enough on my power rais. I did
not raise the Eagles, narry a bit off of that wind.
I was not thoroughly impression. Charges have to be lowered

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in the power raings. But two and a half at
the Eagles, I love the change. I made it three.
My bar rains come to three. So I'm not gonna yours.
You're posting three, No, I'm posting two and a half.
And you know I don't want to. I don't want
to play that game yet, because you know the two
and a three they love, because everything's an eleven and
ten here, you know. So I'm gonna stick with two

(59:17):
and a ha for now. If I see a trending up,
I'm gonna go up quickly. Sorry I step on you
saying you didn't want to dicker. My apologies. Another bingo
where we at. How great was that catch in the
Pittsburgh game. Unbelievable touch catch? I really like that kid
Ben State kids to um okay, I like the charges,
I like I like way too many of these games

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that terrifies me. What's next? Didn't count me on the
Chargers bandwagon for that one to Philly. Philly is still
not any good. I don't care. Did you beat Detroit
by a thousand? Uh? This is a good one. Green
Bay at Kansas City, Green Bay extra rest, Kansas City
short rest, green Bay having played on Thursday, having beaten

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the beforehand undefeated Cardinals no longer Kansas City still yet
to play the Giants tonight. Aaron Rodgers and that win
over the Cardinals twenty two of thirty seven for one
four two touchdowns, no pick sack once A j Dillon
seventy eight, Aaron Jones fifteen fifty nine and a touchdown
on the ground seven catches for fifty one yards. Remember,
Green Bay was plus three in turnovers on Thursday night

(01:00:25):
toppling the Cardinals from the perch of the unbeaten Green
Bay is seven and one lost their opener, yes to
New Orleans right with thirty eight three or thirty five
three something, And then I remember I had him in
Survivor of the second week, and it like, wasn't that
comfortable of a win over Detroit? If I'm not mistaken,
I can't remember they had a time of possession advantage,

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by the way, Thursday night of thirty seven thirty five
to twenty five. As well in Kansas City, again we
haven't seen them play. They played a night their favored
by what's the what's the current number on the Chiefs
over the ten or ten and a half? And yet
even in eleven and reary. So here we go, here
comes the Chiefs money. Um, this has I put Kansas
City minus three because we haven't seen the Chiefs yet,

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and I still think for a team that has a
losing record, we hold a special place for the Chiefs
where the market will not allow them not to be
favored by the standard field or what used to be
the standard number. I see it two and a half
Kansas City two and a half or three with juice
on the dog, I'm definitely open two and a half

(01:01:32):
my numbers come to pick another money Corn will come
in and beout. The Chiefs be my guest. Uh. And
I retweet a lot of Jeff Vogel stuff, especially his analyses.
You know, one one tweets worth. He puts in a
lot of statistics and uh. He talks a lot about
the home field advantage. It is pretty much not there

(01:01:52):
and I can't give And I'm even giving Kansas City
to a grudging two points for home field. I don't
even know why I'm doing it. I still come the
own me a pick them in this game, you know,
And I, like I said, I try to be as
objective as possible making these numbers in my grading system
that I use as a guide. Um that I think
this game should be a pick. I'm I'm not sure
why Kansas City should be a favorite, whether it's home

(01:02:13):
or not. I just don't see it. I think pick
them's fine. I think went to three and there are
some threes out there. You could definitely mark me down
on Green Bay. Kansas City with a bit of antagonistic
relationship with their fans right now, as well, some of
the players speaking out about how spoiled the fans have been.
Really want a Super Bowl, got to a super Bowl.
Now you guys are complaining about us. That's me paraphrasing.

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That always works well for the players when they go
after their fans, especially when you go to do endorsements.
I don't know, I mean, I'll say it again, Kansas
City is a terrifying proposition. Tonight, just win this game
for those of us who have the chiefs uh tonight
in sir vivor um teaser legs? Thus far, should we

(01:02:56):
wait to teaser legs at the end? Maybe we should
wait to teaser legs at the end because right and
as I'm thinking about it, I guess Baltimore essentially to
beat Minnesota would be a teaser leg is great value
though you know, no, not great value because you're not
going through. But let's talk about the Wong teaser legs. Jeff.
By the way, Jeff Focal has a good thing about that.

(01:03:18):
These quotes actually captain Jack Andrews. How about the Ralph
Michaels thing that he tweeted out. I thought that was
good though some people disputed that, but I think that
was pretty good, and we had a five showed up.
Yes it was a dog by five, but still by five.
So long teaser legs that we've gone over so far
would be Carolina. Would you want to take eight and
a half on Carolina versus New England? Did that end

(01:03:39):
up being two and a half by the way? Uh?
Not on my boards on the three and a half. Okay,
never mind that I'm looking at my guesses. Um so
I don't know that we have we don't know two
and a half. Get the Browns up to eight and
a half. Yeah, the Bengals Cowboys will be outside of
teaser range. Eagles you could take eight and a half.
Would you say Bengals? You mean the Browns would be

(01:04:00):
an The Browns would be a teaser leg and uh
and indianaplsis too high, so that's not one. So really
only the Browns is that the only? Like traditional unless
you're telling me that the Eagles you could catch eight
and a half on the Eagles. So Eagles and Browns
and maybe the and maybe the Packers the Eagles Browns

(01:04:24):
do that on my board? For Oh, the Packers would
be a obvious teaser like, wouldn't it? I would say so,
except the high total fifty five and a half. Still still,
you know, I think that's but that's a good point.
The Eagles. I would not rush to bet at all
because I think the Chargers could blow them out, and

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then the Browns. I would the Browns. The thing about
the Browns every week, so you have to check the
injury report because you have no idea who's playing. Injuries
have totally eviscerated that season for them. They have. And
I asked Lombardi last week, you know, the trade deadline
is tomorrow. We haven't even talked about that because got
to talk about the Deshaun Watson news that came down
over the weekend. But I asked Lombardy, would they with
the Browns trade O'Dell Beckham Jr. And he was like,

(01:05:07):
who's going to take the contract? He's right, you know,
I know I've mentioned her on the show, and I'm
pretty sure he's listening right now. I know a guy
that knows a guy, and those people in the Giants organization,
they were very happy to get rid of them, coming back,
guessing lines, numbers, getting visa Gil Alexander, Christie Andrews and
Jeff Parlay is here as well in case you missed

(01:05:28):
the big injury news this morning, both Adam Schefter and
then later Jake Glazer sort of specifying what's going on,
report that Derrick Henry could be done for the year. Wait,
here's another one right there, coming up, Jameis Winston out
reportedly out for the season. Okay, so there you go.
So we could have Derrick Henry done for the year

(01:05:51):
because of a broken metatarsal bone in his foot. You
may have seen him limping on the sidelines yesterday. I
went back in the game, didn't get a whole bunch
of run to that. But uh, that obviously would be
just a massive loss for all football fans, certainly for
the Tennessee Titans. No player means more to his team
non quarterback, and maybe even quarterback quite frankly, although not

(01:06:13):
to align than Derrick Henry because he is He's a
special quirk to that offense. Um. And now we have
Daniel Hunter. Some Daniel Hunter news for Minnesota, not obviously
as big, but still yeah, I'll have news on the
Titans situation in the second as well. Daniel Hunter feared
to have suffered a torn pectoral muscle out. Indeed, uh
Ian Rappaport and Mike garre Follo of NFL Network on

(01:06:36):
that report, having an m R I this morning to
confirm that diagnosis. Uh, he would be out for the
season if it is a torn peck and that look again,
the free agent market, the trade market not great for
running backs but also for me I in rappaport, the
Titans expected to work out Adrian Peterson too, uh, in

(01:06:56):
the wake of Derrick Henry's injury, which, hey, look, Adrian
Peterson one of the greatest running backs of all time,
but uh, completely done. As listen, I don't know, you know,
I don't wanna, I don't wanna say anything negative about
Adrian Peterson because you know, people laughed when when Washington
picked him up, and he played pretty pretty well with
Washington given his age. So I don't know, but yes,

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that's where we are, that the Titans are gonna work
out Adrian Peterson and and as as far as again,
today's Baseball Writers Association of America announcing finalists for all
the major awards tomorrow is not only the first college
football playoff rankings, but it's also the NFL trade deadline.
And Adam Schefter reported in the middle of the night,
I think This tweet came out because I I went
an entire Sunday without realizing this till yesterday evening that

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apparently nothing's gonna happen with DeShawn Watson. That's the word
that he is just going to remain in this purgatory
situation with the Houston Texans and that will be the
end of that. Well, they feel they want value, but
who want who wants him? I mean you want you know,
your quarterback often is the face of your franchise. Went
this got to be the face your franchise. You don't
at this point without legal stuff, Yeah, I mean at

(01:08:05):
this point. Yeah, it's too big of a risk. And
the only team that he appears to have cleared or
appeared to have accepted as a trade Miami. They came
out with that strange statement last week where it was like, yeah,
we'd like him, but we want everything resolved. Well things
aren't gonna get resolved by tomorrow. So that's where we are. Which,
by the way, let me just say this from an

(01:08:26):
NFL standpoint, Roger Goodell should be counting his lucky stars
because if something happened and Deshaun Watson played this year,
oh the backlash that was gonna come on that. But
we'll see twenty four hours away a little plus twenty
four hours plus away from the NFL trade deadline. All right,
Last afternoon game, last of three, another divisional rematch here

(01:08:46):
Gil Cardinals at Forts Cardinals at Niners. Cardinals with the
extra rest, losing to Green Bay last Thursday night, Kyler
Murray was thirty two and defeat to seventy four, no touchdowns,
two picks, sacked twice. Again, the Thals were minus three
in turnovers and we're out time of possessioned if you will.
Thirty seven twenty five San Francisco yesterday they get to

(01:09:08):
three and four. Jimmy Garoppolo seventeen of twenty eight for
three twenty two, no touchdowns, no picks, wasn't sacked, five carries,
four yards, two touchdowns. How about that little line under
Kyle Shanahan. Now these nine the Niners are twenty five
and eleven straight up in Garoppolo starts seven and twenty

(01:09:30):
eight with all other quarterbacks Elijah Mitchell, who they seem
to like more than Trace Sermon eighteen for one thirty
seven and a touchdown debo six for one seventy one
Yesterday are you even got on the box score? There
you go, four for forty five. The biggest player that
game though, third and nineteen at their own sixteen seven

(01:09:50):
twenty eight left in the third quarter, down sixteen to nine,
Garoppolo quick little out pass, the Debo Debo takes it
eighty three yards, leading to a touchdown three plays later,
and that game changed on that Yes, Justin Fields had
a spectacular play, which we'll talk about later, but that
was the biggest player that ball game. And the Niners
beat the Bears thirty three to twenty two, covering in

(01:10:11):
the process covering the four and a half point to
US Bread Arizona minus four on the road. My numbers
come to three and a half right now, I see
two and a half Arizona. I gotta tell you, talking
at downgrade Arizona, I mean, they really easily could have
won that game. I mean, if the guy turns around

(01:10:32):
and catches the ball in the end zone, I mean,
I'm not the Castles versions I nim I don't know
what happened, but he easily could have won that game.
They had three turnovers and still in it all the
way in the end. You know, I've been very slow
to come around on Kyler Murray. Still am a little
bit uh, definitely on Kingsbury the coach, but nonetheless, um jeez,
I my number came to three and a half years four,

(01:10:54):
it's two and a half, pretty much a blanket. What
the hell M an open three. Let's see if they
want to take it, they probably will. Is the polar
opposite of the last two weeks in the NFL, like
I like way too many games this year this week
and liked nothing, virtually nothing the last two weeks. Like Arizona.
I like Arizona. I like them a little bit crazy,
but I like him at two and a half. My
number comes at three and a half. I am in

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open three. So there's there's You want to come down
South Point in half an hour, there's gonna be a
lot of half points for you. Jeff looks like he
ate something bad. No, No, it's that's a shame that
the numbers opening where it it was, because I was ready.
If it was four four and a half. San Francisco
would have been a bet for me this week because
I thought they should have won that game in Arizona.
While running the wing tea with Trey Lance. That's right,

(01:11:37):
the win t game alright, Sunday night football. Yeah, the uh,
the the air kind of gets sucked out of this
one with the Henry news. But Tennessee at the Rams. Yeah,
So this is what I was saying earlier again, Derrick
Henry to undergo an m r RI today to find
out the full extent of the injury. It also could
be one of these situations. Let me just also point
this out because I have some medical folks on the side,

(01:11:59):
so of hinting here, but this is the Adam Schefter
tweet from earlier that Titans running back Derrick Henry suffered
a potentially season ending foot injury during their thirty thirty
win win over Indianapolis yesterday. That, according to ESPN Jay Glazer,
adding later hearing Derrick Henry broke fifth metatarsal on his
foot Nobe Bueno. So it also could be one of
these things where if it is, you know, an injury,

(01:12:23):
maybe it's also a he's out the rest of the
regular season, could be back for a postseason thing, which
you know, Tennessee's got six wins bank there, six and two,
But man, is it going to be tough without Derrick Henry.
If that's the case best record in the a f C.
Currently Tennessee at six and two. Tannehill was twenty two
of thirty two for two sixty five yesterday and their

(01:12:43):
win over the Colts three touchdowns, two picks, sack three times,
two carries for twenty six yards and Derrick Henry himself
was sixty eight again. Little did we know he had
the broken foot. A J. Brown ten for one fifty
five and a touchdown. Uh. Tennessee had a fourth and
two at the Indianapolis forty seven down set been team
of fourteen with eleven thirty six left in the third quarter.

(01:13:03):
They went for it and converted it again. Just a
little fourth down corks these days. Tennessee overcame eleven penalties
for a hundred and sixty one yards yesterday, still one.
I was talking about this with Michael Bonnisana, who won
the Booby Prize in circum Millions last year. Do you
ever remember a team come back from more fourteen point

(01:13:23):
deficits than the Titans do? Just anecdotally, just seems that way.
They're playing the Rams Rams one. They crushed the Texans yesterday,
but on the on the final score it was thirty
eight to twenty two, they were thirty eight to nothing.
Stafford was twenty one of thirty two for three or five,
three touchdowns, no picks, he wasn't sacked. Henderson Jr. Fourteen
for ninety and a touchdown, Cooper Cup seven for one

(01:13:45):
fifteen a touchdown, Van Jefferson three for eight eight um
with Derrick Henry. And this is what I was saying earlier.
Not only is it a big loss for football if
he can't play, and for the Tennessee Titans specifically huge,
but for sports betters in a sport pre flop at
s where it is just so difficult to find anything
that doesn't end up being plinko at the end. That

(01:14:05):
was the one thing in the pre flop markets that
I think wasn't baked in properly. Like the we the
market has become so anti running back that I don't
think it properly accounted for the the marvel that is
Derrick Henry. Now without him we lose that. You know,
I think with him the Rams were gonna be a
small I would have guessed the Rams a smaller favorite

(01:14:27):
than what probably would have been because I do that
with the Titans every week. I am more into them
than the market is. But now without him, it's got
to be Rams minus seven, right something like that. It's
really seven and a half. I mean I really hadn't
had a chance to go through my power rating since
the injury was an ounce. I had at five with
Henry had at four. Okay, Um, you know, I mean

(01:14:52):
it's seven a half. I guess that sounds okay, you
know it'd be worth at least two and a half
i'd say in the points. But a couple of notes though.
First of all, Derek Henry, how many more yards he
has in the second place runner hundreds? It's like three
d fifty. Yeah, you know that's all. But it's on
the other side, Matthew Stafford number one in both passer

(01:15:13):
rating and QB are away number one a QB are
passer rating. He's actually second beyond Russell Wilson, who's not
playing Tyrod Taylor, who played a game and a half. Uh. So,
you know, I really think the Rams are playing some
great football. I mean, I think you gotta open seven
a half see where it goes from there. I'm not
sure what to say. By the way, haven't mentioned QB
R in a couple of moments here. Uh, Stafford seventy

(01:15:36):
point five yesterday. Also, uh, Jimmycaroppolo eighty five point six.
Ye did played a healthy game? He did, He absolutely did.
We'll come back Monday night, Football Survivor. What we like
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(01:15:56):
person at bleed Nuts Blue sent me a piece from
the as Central dot com report. Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray
has an ankle sprain that could be a one to
three week issue. So he was he was like, tread lightly, Gil,
He's right, I should tread light. Who's their backup? Who

(01:16:17):
is their backup? Who is the Cardinals backup? Colt McCoy
ended up in Arizona. He's confident. And by the way,
that's a great question for a lot of these teams,
Like did you know Trevor Simeon was the next guy
off the back? I had no no clue whatsoever. This
is from a Craig Parlay. I believe that's how it's pronounced.

(01:16:37):
If the Saints make the playoffs with Trevor Simeon at quarterback.
Peyton may be more deserving than Belichick. Craig Parlay Jeff
Jeff Dad, I don't think he's wrong. I don't think
he might not be wrong, might not be wrong, might
not be wrong at all. All right, Monday Night Football?
What we got Monday Night football? Chris andrews Umbie Pittsburgh

(01:17:01):
Steelers hosting the Chicago Bears, boil boy. The Bears three
and five, the Steelers four and three. Justin Fields yesterday
and the loss against San Francisco nineteen seven for one
seventy five, one touchdown, one pick, sacked four times, ten
carries for one oh three and a touchdown that included
the type of play that they hope in Chicago they

(01:17:22):
will get to see from Justin Fields over and over.
A game was fourth and one at the San Francisco
twenty two. The Bears were down twenty three to sixty
ninety three left in the game. They go for it,
and Fields, who looked like he was sacked about three
different times on this play, the young that the play
of his young career, scrambles out, not only gets the
first down, goes all the way to the house, and

(01:17:44):
they went wild in Chicago still lost the game. Didn't
convert the extra point after that touchdown immediately after they're
the most euphoric moment. They missed the extra point. Oh god.
They were eight of fifteen on third down. They did
have a thirty seven eleven nine time at possession edge,
But all of that's very misleading when Deebos going eighty
three yards on a play total yards for the Bears

(01:18:07):
and defeat. And then there's your Steelers, who we talked about,
beat the Browns fifteen to ten. Don't know what Kevin
Stevanski was doing late, not kicking a field goal, But nonetheless,
the Pittsburgh Steelers, they have Ben Roethlisberger three point oh
or whatever this is. They've won three Stags three straight
rather since a one in three star Big Ben was
twenty two of thirty four for two sixty six, one touchdown,

(01:18:29):
no pick stacked twice, Nazi ninety one on the ground
and touch down, three catches for twenty nine, Deonta Johnson
six catches for ninety eight. Keep playing this game. Three
to three, fourth and nine at the Cleveland ten left
in the second quarter. You thought this was going to
be the key play because you thought Pittsburgh's gonna lose
this game because of a vacat de fake field goal

(01:18:51):
play where they send their great kicker Chris Boswell rolling
out throws a you know, throw a pass to get
a you know, a conversion. Excuse me, pardon me, yeah,
fake field goal rather to instead of kicking the field
goal to go up six to three, Oh, let's get
the conversion. Instead, he gets popped and concussed. And oh,
by the way, the past was incomplete. By the way,

(01:19:13):
was also fourth and one at their own forty eight,
down ten to three with six six left and the
third quarter, they went forward and converted. Down ten to nine,
they had to go for two because of the Boswell
injury because he was concussed, and though they got it,
they had a holding penalty that negated it. So they
went for two from the twelve failed. Then on the
ensuing kickoff, they had to have their punter, Presley Harvin

(01:19:35):
the third kicking the ball. What did he do on
the kickoff? Kicked it out of bounds. The d did
bail them out, though, so the Steelers got to the
to the victory, but it wasn't without overcoming all of
that miss. You guys, which they did luckily for the Steelers.
All that said, now, are the Steelers going to be
a popular survivor pick next week? Because I got him

(01:19:58):
at about a six point favorite here in Chicago. What's
six and a half. I'm not I'm gonna open six amp.
My power ratings come a little higher eight, but I
you know, I don't trust the Stealers and that as
a favorite, certainly. A couple of comments on this game.
The Bears, they're going crazy now over Justin Fields. He
had a good game, he looked pretty good. They're so

(01:20:18):
desperate for a quarterback. There just a quick little aside
years ago, when Peyton Manning got hurt when he's playing
with the Colts. Colts wanted up being two and fourteen
without Peyton. Some sports writer said, I'm gonna vote Peyton
Manning the m v P because it's obvious that he
was so u I mean, only a sports writer could
come up with something that's stupid to vote for a
guy that didn't play. And I remember writing it. This

(01:20:39):
guy said, well, I'm gonna vote for Sid Gilman because
the Bears haven't out of quarterbacks since Sid Gilman left.
They're so desperate for quarterbacks. I vote for slinging Sammy
Ball every year. I mean, why not give the Sid
Gilman vote on that same theory. Anyway, they're desperate for
a quarterback. They did lose the game, did not cover,
but I still raise him a little bit on my
power rating. Tell you what I did like about the Steelers.

(01:21:01):
They ran the ball. That real young offensive line looked
pretty good yesterday. I don't know, let's not go crazy,
but I think six and a half. I think it's fine.
Like I said, even though my power rais come a little,
I do not trust the Steelers is a favorite. Even
though I got my Steeler tie on Where's the Camera
given to me by the great Roxy Rocks bro So
Roxy Warriors for you and for the Steelers. If we lost,

(01:21:24):
this would still be in the closet. This show gave
me inspiration to give you a Christmas gift, by the way, too,
and it has nothing to do with your tie. But
that's for another time. Um. All right, so here's the deal.
My answer to my own question is I don't trust
the Steelers for survivor. If I can't even get there yet,
I have to win tonight. All those all those of
us who have the Chiefs. We have to get by
that first, but we'll get the survivor in a second.

(01:21:45):
Uh what do we like best? Then? So though I
like the Jets, you keep cautioning me, and I respect you, sir,
so perhaps I should heed that caution. But I do
like based on the numbers that we were talking about,
we don't know what the story is with Houston, whether
it's Davis Mills or Torrott Taylor. So I can't really
comment on that. But you're saying the New Orleans line

(01:22:07):
against Atlanta was what that's five and a half? I'm
opening six, Okay, So I like New Orleans. I think
I like the Raiders. What did you open the Raiders
at the Giants? I'm gonna open three. I I kind
of like the Raiders too. I just don't want to
mess around with that with the threes. You know this
this place with the three three and a half, everything
is eleven and ten. I don't want to mess with
that right now. Site unseen on the Giants, but it's three,

(01:22:29):
and I think that's a cheap number on the Raiders.
But of course we have to see what happens tonight.
So I'll say I'll say New Orleans based on the numbers,
New Orleans, the Raiders, UM, Baltimore, and the Chargers and
maybe no, And I can't do that one now because
knowing the Kyler Murray issue. So those are the four.

(01:22:52):
I like? Those are the four. I favor every one
of those that you just said myself. I like the Colts.
I know we're gonna the heads a part on that one.
I like the Ravens, and I like the Saints. We
agree on too. I kind of like, um, the Raiders

(01:23:13):
and Chargers. I'm not marking them down yet. I mean,
but if unless the Giants really do something to night,
I would put myself with the Raiders as well. Terrifies
me that I like four of these. Again, polar opposite
of the last two weeks parlay, What do you like
think I'll take two favorites that are just shy of
three off of Chris's numbers. I like the Bengals in
a bounce back against Cleveland laying two and a half,

(01:23:36):
and I like the Chargers laying two and a half
against an Eagle team that there are three wins this
year have come against Atlanta, a Sam Donald implosion, and Detroit.
The team is still terrible guys. Cincinnati has lost all
three of their games by combined nine points. We all
love the Chargers. You know what that means, be careful? Well,

(01:23:58):
actually I could go wrong Hill. It means the Chargers
win by one and we don't go it's probably will
happened all right then, and then again again, I haven't
gotten by survivor this week, so let me just caveat
it with that. But if you look ahead to next week,
the the biggest spreads on the board therefore will be
Indianapolis hosting the Jets, uh Dallas hosting Denver. We don't

(01:24:22):
know about Miami yet because we don't know who's playing
quarterback for Houston. New Orleans is kind of bigg ish,
but not really five and a half, right, Buffalo is
the biggest spread on the board at Jackson. They're the
biggest one by for Baltimore will be big hosting Minnesota,
and there you go, and then there's Pittsburgh hosting Chicago.
Those are the biggest spreads on the board. So there's

(01:24:44):
a lot of options and none of them feel Besides Buffalo,
none of them feel great. Well, of course, you can't
use the team twice, so who I mean you used yet,
probably haven't used the Steelers yet. I have not. The
only one of those that I've used is the Colts. Yeah,
you might not have used probably I'm us the Dolphins
yet A want No, I haven't used that. So there's
a couple of a couple of ways ago. If it's

(01:25:06):
Davis Mills, do you do you play a one in
seven Dolphins team and survivor? Jeff is like, not a chance.
That's stuff. I don't know. I don't trust that any
less than I trust the Steelers. I'm serious, could really listen.
I've seen this movie too many times. They win games
they're not supposed to and lose games that they also

(01:25:27):
are not supposed to. Let me just get past tonight
and then we can deal with all survivor the rest
of the week tomorrow on the show, Joe Peter, you
don't want to miss that about a whole array of topics. Um,
we'll do that tomorrow. In baseball, the World Series continues.
Thank you to Chrissy, Thank you to Jeff. Thank you
for listening to numbers game. At least these sports betting
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