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July 2, 2025 66 mins

 

What do cemeteries, vintage fashion, and spiritual connection have in common? For Sarah Neoma, they all tell stories. In this delightful conversation, Sarah joins Patrick to talk about Grave Matters, her work preserving cemeteries, and her deep reverence for the past. Along the way, she shares personal experiences, stories from being a fourth-generation seamstress, her boutique Spellbound, and a chilling ghost story from her lovingly restored historic cabin. Whether she’s water witching forgotten graves, diving deeper into what she calls cemetery mediumship, or curating and romanticizing little things in life in ways that bring her joy, Sarah inspires us to remember—and to be remembered. Visit BigSeance.com/260 for more info.

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Intro :00

Meet Sarah Neoma of Grave Matters! :45

More on Sarah’s Creative Work. 4:34

Grave Matters and Sarah’s love for historic cemeteries. “They’re kind of magical places. I don’t just see them as the resting place of bodies or just hunks of stone. I see them ass this treasure trove of stories.” 6:13

Preservation and physically caring for a grave. 9:14

Gumbo, the cemetery on a hill. 11:03

“I think the thing that human beings overall collectively fear, never more so than now, is being forgotten, is fading from collective memory.” 13:32

A misunderstanding of cemeteries. 14:25

Lore and how we want to be remembered. Sarah and Patrick consider what their death wishes might be. 18:20

Bellefontaine Cemetery in St. Louis, and cemeteries in the snow. 20:51

“I’m a big fan of curating your life, or romanticizing it. Romanticizing things in little ways that bring you joy.” 24:15

Sarah is a fourth generation seamstress, loves vintage fashion, and owns Spellbound Boutique. 27:44

Vintage fashion patterns and Patrick’s childhood memories of his grandmother’s fabric shop. 32:33

Missouri artist Lowell Davis and his Red Oak II, and Sarah’s adorable historic cabin that she’s restoring. 34:29

A touching but heart-wrenching ghost story from the cabin. 43:03

“I get a glimme

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