April 3, 2025 • 16 mins
Team Reporter Casey Phillips, Senior Writer & Editor Scott Smith and Staff Writer/Reporter Bri Dix talk about all the latest Bucs news in this week's edition of Bucs Insider. The team discussed the rules changes taking place for 2025, the possibility of the Bucs trading down and the main news coming from the Buccaneers’ press conferences at the NFL Annual Meeting.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into Bucks Insider, coming to you from the Bucks
Studio presented by Ticketmaster Casey Phillips here with Scott Smith
and bre Dix and Scott and I are back from
the owners meetings and as always there's some new rules
and things that they consider. We went over last week
what we felt like were some of the ones that
we were intrigued by, what we thought might pass, what not,
And so now we do have the answers on most
of it. So let's start with that kickoff rule that
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of course that was the.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Big one last year. There was still a little adjustment
again to it this year.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, I think they liked the dynamic kickoff as they
call it. It definitely reduced injuries on the place. So
they were trying to reconstruct the kickoff so that they
could get it back into the game, but not have
it be the most dangerous playing the game. So you
know how you have them lined up five yards from
each other and so they don't get this big running
start that was the problem. You got these guys sprinting
down field thirty yards and then smash it into each other.
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So that's still the same. The big change this year
that they made to it in my opinion, and I
don't like it, and I voice Smab Jackson's last week
is the kickoff now comes out to the thirty five. Yeah,
I know, the point is to not have as many kickoffs,
that's that's the point. But their goal is to get
it up to like fifty to sixty percent of kickoffs
are returned, which is great, and if they succeed in that, great,
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but that still means forty to fifty percent of them
are touchbacks.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And you're giving the ball at the thirty five advantage,
you hit one like twenty yard passing play, you're already kill. Yeah,
it happened us against Dallas lash year because all these
kickers can make it from fifty eight yards without any
trouble whatsoever. So I just think they're making it too
easy to score. I mean, if you think back to it,
it wasn't that long ago when the kickoff touchback was
the twenty yard line. Now, I know it's happened incrementally,
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but to get to the thirty five, it's a huge difference.
It's huge. It's totally, it totally fundamentally has changed the game.
And I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yep. I think I agree with that. Yeah, but the
good news is one that we are big fans of.
Did pass the overtime rules?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Tell me, uh free, tell me what stands out to
you about this new rule, so.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Both teams will have the option to possess the ball
in overtime. We've alless those Bill's Chiefs games and it's
like Bucks, Yes, she would consistently get the call and
then it's just like and then you know it's over
from there. But I think I like the fact that
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both teams are going to get to have a shot.
And I mean I think there's been so many games
where you just wish that was the case in probably
the outcome would have gone a lot differently, And I
just think it's more fair and more objective with both
teams getting to show.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, right, I agree with all that. But let me
ask you to a question. If you're the coach and
you win the coin flip, do you take the ball
or not?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So, I mean, personally I think that I still might,
but I think it probably is a lot like how
you feel even taking the coin flip on the game
of like which one you're wanting to do?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You probably what are you more comfortable.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You've probably seen at least one or two college football
over times right now, it's not the exact same thing.
It's not crucially, it's not time. But the team that
wins the coin toss to start overtime always chooses to
go on offense second. And the reason is obvious. You
know what you hear?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Seven yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So if the other team here in the NFL gets
the ball first to start overtime, they drive down and
get a touchdown, Well, then you have the ball. Now,
let's say you hit third and seventeen at the other
team's thirty. Well, if you didn't know if you had
the ball first, you'd probably just kick a field goal
there because you have to get something. But if you
know you have to have a touchdown, then you're going
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for it, and you're going.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
For it one.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You know exactly what you need, and you know if
they didn't score it all, then you know you don't
have to risk it on third and seventeen. You just
kick the field goal.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
The flip side of that is they amended this rule
before they approved it because the original it was proposed
by Philadelphia, and the original rule had it exactly mirror
what it is in the postseason, which is both teams
get the ball and it's fifteen minutes long.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, So that's interesting because what if you don't get
the ball till.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
The last that's the threat. At first, they take eight
minutes to score a touchdown. Now your box against the wall.
So to me, if it was fifteen minutes, I think
it's a no brainer. You take the ball second. Yeah,
but I think you could go either way. Maybe it
depends on situations, like your defense has been doing great
all game, you know, maybe this one went to overtime
at seven to seven and the defense has been dominating.
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Maybe then you feel comfortable that your defense will get
off the field and maybe even stop them scoring. But
I think it adds another layer of strategy and I
like that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I do too. I think that's gonna be very fun.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
All right, And the next we have the expansion of
the replay assistant capabilities.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So what did this mean?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah? I mean I think we all do. Do we
all feel like the replay assistant, which has been ramping
up the last a couple of years, work pretty well.
I mean they tend to get it right and they
tend to do it quickly. Yeah, I mean, that's all
we want, right yep. So to expand the number of
things that it can cover, like face mask and rough
in the passer and so on. That's good. However, our biggest,
I think my biggest complaint about that not being used
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for everything last year was the Bucky Irving lack of
a face mask call in Atlanta, where if they call
that face mass pill, I think the Buccaneers probably win
that game, but instead they settled for a field goal
and gave Atlanta enough time on the clock to tie
the game at the very end. Right. The problem is
this rule only covers plays where a flag is thrown,
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so they're not gonna they wouldn't have fixed that play
because no flag was strong. Yeah, I would have liked
to have seen this play.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You could fix it even if it was fix it
either way. I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
All right, A couple quick ones we won't get into
very long, but now you can do one zoom interview
with up to five players during the legal tampering period.
We kind of talked about that last week. We feel
like that's just common sense, something sounds easy. The tush
push ban has been tabled. That's thing about owner's meanings
it doesn't mean anything that's proposed either passes or fail.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Sometimes they table it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
This one they've tabled, so we continue to wonder what
is going to happen with this one.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, instead of like, instead of saying no, they said, okay,
let's push a discussion to when we get together again
in May, which tells me that behind the scenes, they
still want to do something about this, but they don't
think this was the exact right solution. And now you're
hearing rumblings I think even from the commissioner that the
potential solution may be just to completely ban pushing and
pulling ball carriers, Yeah, which which used to be the
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rule by it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, that's it's not crazy. And I get I've.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Always understood the idea of like it feeling more like
a rugby play than a football play. But I don't
like the idea of banning it just because teams have
struggled to stop it, like if there is a player
safety side, you.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Know, that's what everybody always says. I don't think there's
ever been an injury on that play, right, I don't
think Jason Kelsey or yeah, Jason Kelsey loved how it helt,
But you know not. Many teams have a have a
dominant offensive line and a quarterback that can squat six
hundred pounds. Yeah, So that's why they're.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's why they're irritated about it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And then finally, the automatic first down on defensive holding
did not.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I knew it. I knew what I said last week, right,
it wasn't going to pass.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No, but we're still disappointed.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
We talked about this a little bit before we started here,
and I'm not going to take credit for this because
I heard it on a different podcast, but why not
make defensive holding ten yards and no automatic first down?
Offensive holding is ten yards?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
So that to me takes out the overly punitive part
of it and doesn't doesn't force the unintended consequence.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Of third and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, and coaches coaching their players to hold more often
because there's no want to make first down. If it's
thirty and seven, you commit defensive holding, you get ten
yards of first down. That seems fair. If it's third
and fifteen, now it's third and five, that also seems fair.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
When you're a king for a day, that will be
our first you will issue all right. So we had
a stumped Scott question get submitted.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I need to get back on track here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, what's your batting person?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I know I got the first two right right, and
I got the third one I didn't. I get the
semi on rice one. I was there, but I didn't
quite get it. And then the last one I didn't
get it all that was one about Nebrasko.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
All right, So I feel like this feels like one
you'll know it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So it's stat based.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, okay, which Bucks rookie tightened holds the record for
the most receptions in their rookie season's Yeah, look at that.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That one's easy. That was Tim right in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Do you remember the exact n that's not part of
the question.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Fifty something. I don't remember the exact number. Caid had
forty two, by the way, which also.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Shows how amazing because that was a lot for Kate
is a rookie, and that you're correct that you know
Tim Wright.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It was fifty four, okay, And he was actually a
converted wide receiver from Rutgers, you know, so Greg Ciano
knew him. And the funny little side note on Tim
Wright is that the Buccaneers traded him away twice. In
the span of twelve months. Man Wow traded him in fourteen,
I think to the Patriots. To take that personally, it's
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trade into the Patriots for Logan Mankins. I think there
was a draft pick in Bold. Yeah, and then I
don't remember how he got him back. But then a
year later we traded him right before the start of
the regular season to Detroit for kicker Kyle Brenza. Do
you remember Kyle Brenza? Like he could kick the ball
milet but he went like two for six and then
we cut him.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's crazy. Well, yes, we did not, stump Scott. Thank
you for that question.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Your batting percentage went up just to little bit there,
So please continue to send those to myself or to
Bree again.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
We are relying on all of you to help us
tump Scott. But that was a good one. I enjoyed it. Okay,
let's uh.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
The other things that come out of the owners meetings
are we get a chance to hear from gms and
head coaches. So both Jason Light and Todd Bowles spoke
to the media. So tell me, especially starting with Jason Light,
I know that with the draft coming, one of the
few opportunities to really hear from him. It's always an
exciting time to kind of gauge what he's thinking about somethings.
So of course we always want to ask, oh, trading
up down in the draft or any of these things possibilities,
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And he did speak on that.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Alton.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, And if you look back at his track record,
he's only traded up in the first round one time,
and that was the Tristan WARF's year and it was
one spot. Yep, he's been more likely, like the Logan
Hall year, the Vita by a year, he's been more
likely to trade back. And I liked his answer to
this question if that was on the plate, and he
seemed kind of enthusiastic to me about it. I think
that is very much within the realm of possibility that
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at nineteen there's maybe you had two or three guys
that you would have stayed put for at nineteen, but
they're all gone, and now you have another group of
guys that you fine with any of them, so you
can move back five to ten spots. Like I'll give
you a scenario. Maybe we like gi Hot Campbell, maybe
the corner We think the two best cornerbacks are Will
Johnson and Jade Baron that they're both gone, and then
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you like a lot of cornerbacks after that, like Maxwell
Harston or Benjamin Morrison or something, you can move backwards
and feel good about getting one of those.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I think it's a very very possible scenario this year.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And then also the other thing that I took from
what Jason was talking about was the team's really high
on sarbazi A Dennis.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yes, Yeah, I would agree with that, and I thought
both he and Bulls talked a lot about that, which
was interesting and and it has to be exciting for
Bucks fans to hear when especially you know, I mean,
we do know we have Levante David back, which is great,
but outside of that, that position has been kind of
influxing up in the air this offseason to know they
feel good about him, and I feel like they especially
talked about I remember, I think it was Bulls who
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said that he's not just that third down guy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That's that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, And I thought that was a great point to
show that. I think that's how a lot of us
have been thinking about him and talking about it. And
I think it was largely especially because we talked about,
oh maybe kJ Britt and him platoon a bit. But
it's great to hear that they don't view him that way,
that they do view him as someone who could stand
in there.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
He and Levante all the time, which is a game.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And they also have Anthony Walker who they're high on
as well, So there's a little bit of a competition there. Yeah,
And competition is good.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Competition is always good.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, I know something else Jason talked about was, of
course Hassan Redick, one of the big additions this offseason
that wasn't a current guy. We resigned so many of
our own guys. That was one of the new people
that wasn't part of our roster this last year. So
tell me for you, Bree, what'stood about what he said
about him and just what we know at this point
about the expectations.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Well, when asked if getting Hassan Reddick would change the mindset,
I really liked what Jason said in that that gives
them the freedom to choose the best player available. They
don't feel pigeonholed, like getting Hassan Reddick was great, but
that's not necessarily going to stop them from taking an
edge in the first round, and if you have a
guy that falls that they feel really good about that's
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on their board, they can feel they can take him
because you're not You have the deput You added Hassan Redick,
you brought back Anthony Nelson.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So now it isn't like you're going.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
In there and you're thinking you have to get an
edge because when you press, that's when mistakes can happen.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But now they have the freedom to choose.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Whoever's the top in their mind, whether that's the corner
or lineback or whoever.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, it doesn't keep them from doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I feel like we often when we discuss this position,
forget to mention Chris Braswell. Yeah, think about the fact
that he was the second round pick last year. They
obviously like him quite a bit, and I think he
was coming on a little bit at the end of year.
So there's there's a possibility that you already feel really
good about your rotation of yeah, yah, Hassan Reddick, Chris
Braswell or Anthony Nelson and whatever else that position.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, yeah, I think that listening to both of them,
and especially Coach Bowles talk about, you would assume him
being kind of the defensive minded guy that he'd really
be pushing for a defensive heavy draft, and we've been
assuming it's going to potentially be a defensive heavy draft
based on need. But both he and Jason talked about
this idea that it is about best available. We are
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not going to pass up someone that is an offensive player.
That again, whether it's Hassan Redicks edition or wherever, we
are like, they want the best player available. They are
not going to go defense for the sake of it.
They're not going to go a certain position for the
sake of it. And hearing Bowls really say that, especially
to that, and I love how we put it. He's like,
I can always find ways to stop people.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
He's like, I can.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I can mix and match and do what I need.
He's like, but if you don't got the guys on
offense right, you're goes down or one of them goes
down to the horses. Yes, And so I thought that
was really interesting to just hear the way that both
of them talked about like we're up for anything.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Well, the way the question was presented to Todd was
you're a defensive coach, are you excited about this probably
being a high defense draft and goes, you know what,
as a defensive coach, I have learned that the way
you win games is scoring a lot of points. So
he's like, like you said, I can work around the
edges on defense, but you can't make up for not
having the horses there.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, which I think is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And then also I know he talked about the quotes
on he had on the forty yard dash and evaluating
corners and also about yah YadA yah.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
So I've always find it interesting when you have the
GM or you have the coach talk about the metris
and the testing and I loved you know, they were
asked a lot about it that at the combine too,
and Todd is very adamant that, you know, they look
at the tape first and then you use the numbers
to kind of solidify what you see. Or if you
have a guy that tests just out of this world,
takes the lid off Lucas oil, well then you go
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back to the tape and see if it matches up.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But I love what he said.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
About corners, that there are certain position groups that the
forty yard dash is more imperative, and that corner is
one of those that's very critical. You have to have
a guy that can stay with those vertical threats, can
stay with a.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Guy on that fade ball. But if you have a team.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That you know plays a lot of zone, plays more
cover too, like you might necessarily not need as much
of the speed. And he said, of course, they look
at the short area quickness, they look at the ball skills,
they look if he's a willing tackler, and look at
all those things. But the forty is critical win evaluating
corners and just look at a guy like Maxwell Harrison
that ran a four two and he's a guy that's
really rising on mocks recently. He was in a lot
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of first in this latest mock.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
That I did.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And then I loved when he was talking about ya
Ya d'abi. He talked a lot about in the first year,
Yalla y'all was kind of just wanting to run over guys,
was using the power, was using the force, and then
in year two he really kind of the mental part
clicked for Yaya and he was using more of a
tactical approach in finding more ways and understanding ways that
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blockers were wanting to attack him. So I think you're
going to see a big lead from him this year,
and maybe the sack numbers weren't there for him, but
he was still getting the pressures and he was still
affecting the quarterback and moving him off of his spot
or making him throw quicker. So yeah, I thought overall
he had a really big year despite what the snotsmah.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Also, Todd Bowles said he hopes that Chris gottwill will
be ready for week one yep, which I mean hopes
isn't the same thing as knowing. Yeah, but I don't
think you would say that if you didn't really think
it was impossible.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, And I think he said, Bryce Hall seems to
be running full speed. He obvious say it hurt earlier,
run a full speed. He's excited about that as well.
So it was cold here injury updowns.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And we'll see what happens when we start the outstation
programs this month, man.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
That is this month.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That is wild all right, Well, that's going to do
it for us on this edition of Bucks Insider. Thanks
so much for being well us. We'll see you next week.
Welcome into Bucks Insider, coming to you from the Bucks
Studio presented by Ticketmaster Casey Phillips here with Scott Smith
and bre Dix and Scott and I are back from
the owners meetings and as always there's some new rules
and things that they consider. We went over last week
what we felt like were some of the ones that
we were intrigued by, what we thought might pass, what not,
And so now we do have the answers on most
of it. So let's start with that kickoff rule that
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of course that was the.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Big one last year. There was still a little adjustment
again to it this year.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, I think they liked the dynamic kickoff as they
call it. It definitely reduced injuries on the place. So
they were trying to reconstruct the kickoff so that they
could get it back into the game, but not have
it be the most dangerous playing the game. So you
know how you have them lined up five yards from
each other and so they don't get this big running
start that was the problem. You got these guys sprinting
down field thirty yards and then smash it into each other.
(00:48):
So that's still the same. The big change this year
that they made to it in my opinion, and I
don't like it, and I voice Smab Jackson's last week
is the kickoff now comes out to the thirty five. Yeah,
I know, the point is to not have as many kickoffs,
that's that's the point. But their goal is to get
it up to like fifty to sixty percent of kickoffs
are returned, which is great, and if they succeed in that, great,
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but that still means forty to fifty percent of them
are touchbacks.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And you're giving the ball at the thirty five advantage,
you hit one like twenty yard passing play, you're already kill. Yeah,
it happened us against Dallas lash year because all these
kickers can make it from fifty eight yards without any
trouble whatsoever. So I just think they're making it too
easy to score. I mean, if you think back to it,
it wasn't that long ago when the kickoff touchback was
the twenty yard line. Now, I know it's happened incrementally,
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but to get to the thirty five, it's a huge difference.
It's huge. It's totally, it totally fundamentally has changed the game.
And I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yep. I think I agree with that. Yeah, but the
good news is one that we are big fans of.
Did pass the overtime rules?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Tell me, uh free, tell me what stands out to
you about this new rule, so.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Both teams will have the option to possess the ball
in overtime. We've alless those Bill's Chiefs games and it's
like Bucks, Yes, she would consistently get the call and
then it's just like and then you know it's over
from there. But I think I like the fact that
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both teams are going to get to have a shot.
And I mean I think there's been so many games
where you just wish that was the case in probably
the outcome would have gone a lot differently, And I
just think it's more fair and more objective with both
teams getting to show.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, right, I agree with all that. But let me
ask you to a question. If you're the coach and
you win the coin flip, do you take the ball
or not?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So, I mean, personally I think that I still might,
but I think it probably is a lot like how
you feel even taking the coin flip on the game
of like which one you're wanting to do?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You probably what are you more comfortable.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You've probably seen at least one or two college football
over times right now, it's not the exact same thing.
It's not crucially, it's not time. But the team that
wins the coin toss to start overtime always chooses to
go on offense second. And the reason is obvious. You
know what you hear?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Seven yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So if the other team here in the NFL gets
the ball first to start overtime, they drive down and
get a touchdown, Well, then you have the ball. Now,
let's say you hit third and seventeen at the other
team's thirty. Well, if you didn't know if you had
the ball first, you'd probably just kick a field goal
there because you have to get something. But if you
know you have to have a touchdown, then you're going
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for it, and you're going.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
For it one.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You know exactly what you need, and you know if
they didn't score it all, then you know you don't
have to risk it on third and seventeen. You just
kick the field goal.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
The flip side of that is they amended this rule
before they approved it because the original it was proposed
by Philadelphia, and the original rule had it exactly mirror
what it is in the postseason, which is both teams
get the ball and it's fifteen minutes long.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, So that's interesting because what if you don't get
the ball till.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
The last that's the threat. At first, they take eight
minutes to score a touchdown. Now your box against the wall.
So to me, if it was fifteen minutes, I think
it's a no brainer. You take the ball second. Yeah,
but I think you could go either way. Maybe it
depends on situations, like your defense has been doing great
all game, you know, maybe this one went to overtime
at seven to seven and the defense has been dominating.
(04:17):
Maybe then you feel comfortable that your defense will get
off the field and maybe even stop them scoring. But
I think it adds another layer of strategy and I
like that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I do too. I think that's gonna be very fun.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
All right, And the next we have the expansion of
the replay assistant capabilities.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So what did this mean?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah? I mean I think we all do. Do we
all feel like the replay assistant, which has been ramping
up the last a couple of years, work pretty well.
I mean they tend to get it right and they
tend to do it quickly. Yeah, I mean, that's all
we want, right yep. So to expand the number of
things that it can cover, like face mask and rough
in the passer and so on. That's good. However, our biggest,
I think my biggest complaint about that not being used
(04:53):
for everything last year was the Bucky Irving lack of
a face mask call in Atlanta, where if they call
that face mass pill, I think the Buccaneers probably win
that game, but instead they settled for a field goal
and gave Atlanta enough time on the clock to tie
the game at the very end. Right. The problem is
this rule only covers plays where a flag is thrown,
(05:14):
so they're not gonna they wouldn't have fixed that play
because no flag was strong. Yeah, I would have liked
to have seen this play.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You could fix it even if it was fix it
either way. I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
All right, A couple quick ones we won't get into
very long, but now you can do one zoom interview
with up to five players during the legal tampering period.
We kind of talked about that last week. We feel
like that's just common sense, something sounds easy. The tush
push ban has been tabled. That's thing about owner's meanings
it doesn't mean anything that's proposed either passes or fail.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Sometimes they table it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
This one they've tabled, so we continue to wonder what
is going to happen with this one.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, instead of like, instead of saying no, they said, okay,
let's push a discussion to when we get together again
in May, which tells me that behind the scenes, they
still want to do something about this, but they don't
think this was the exact right solution. And now you're
hearing rumblings I think even from the commissioner that the
potential solution may be just to completely ban pushing and
pulling ball carriers, Yeah, which which used to be the
(06:07):
rule by it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, that's it's not crazy. And I get I've.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Always understood the idea of like it feeling more like
a rugby play than a football play. But I don't
like the idea of banning it just because teams have
struggled to stop it, like if there is a player
safety side, you.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Know, that's what everybody always says. I don't think there's
ever been an injury on that play, right, I don't
think Jason Kelsey or yeah, Jason Kelsey loved how it helt,
But you know not. Many teams have a have a
dominant offensive line and a quarterback that can squat six
hundred pounds. Yeah, So that's why they're.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's why they're irritated about it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And then finally, the automatic first down on defensive holding
did not.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I knew it. I knew what I said last week, right,
it wasn't going to pass.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No, but we're still disappointed.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
We talked about this a little bit before we started here,
and I'm not going to take credit for this because
I heard it on a different podcast, but why not
make defensive holding ten yards and no automatic first down?
Offensive holding is ten yards?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
So that to me takes out the overly punitive part
of it and doesn't doesn't force the unintended consequence.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Of third and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, and coaches coaching their players to hold more often
because there's no want to make first down. If it's
thirty and seven, you commit defensive holding, you get ten
yards of first down. That seems fair. If it's third
and fifteen, now it's third and five, that also seems fair.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
When you're a king for a day, that will be
our first you will issue all right. So we had
a stumped Scott question get submitted.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I need to get back on track here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, what's your batting person?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I know I got the first two right right, and
I got the third one I didn't. I get the
semi on rice one. I was there, but I didn't
quite get it. And then the last one I didn't
get it all that was one about Nebrasko.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
All right, So I feel like this feels like one
you'll know it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So it's stat based.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, okay, which Bucks rookie tightened holds the record for
the most receptions in their rookie season's Yeah, look at that.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That one's easy. That was Tim right in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Do you remember the exact n that's not part of
the question.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Fifty something. I don't remember the exact number. Caid had
forty two, by the way, which also.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Shows how amazing because that was a lot for Kate
is a rookie, and that you're correct that you know
Tim Wright.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It was fifty four, okay, And he was actually a
converted wide receiver from Rutgers, you know, so Greg Ciano
knew him. And the funny little side note on Tim
Wright is that the Buccaneers traded him away twice. In
the span of twelve months. Man Wow traded him in fourteen,
I think to the Patriots. To take that personally, it's
(08:34):
trade into the Patriots for Logan Mankins. I think there
was a draft pick in Bold. Yeah, and then I
don't remember how he got him back. But then a
year later we traded him right before the start of
the regular season to Detroit for kicker Kyle Brenza. Do
you remember Kyle Brenza? Like he could kick the ball
milet but he went like two for six and then
we cut him.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's crazy. Well, yes, we did not, stump Scott. Thank
you for that question.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Your batting percentage went up just to little bit there,
So please continue to send those to myself or to
Bree again.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
We are relying on all of you to help us
tump Scott. But that was a good one. I enjoyed it. Okay,
let's uh.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
The other things that come out of the owners meetings
are we get a chance to hear from gms and
head coaches. So both Jason Light and Todd Bowles spoke
to the media. So tell me, especially starting with Jason Light,
I know that with the draft coming, one of the
few opportunities to really hear from him. It's always an
exciting time to kind of gauge what he's thinking about somethings.
So of course we always want to ask, oh, trading
up down in the draft or any of these things possibilities,
(09:28):
And he did speak on that.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Alton.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, And if you look back at his track record,
he's only traded up in the first round one time,
and that was the Tristan WARF's year and it was
one spot. Yep, he's been more likely, like the Logan
Hall year, the Vita by a year, he's been more
likely to trade back. And I liked his answer to
this question if that was on the plate, and he
seemed kind of enthusiastic to me about it. I think
that is very much within the realm of possibility that
(09:50):
at nineteen there's maybe you had two or three guys
that you would have stayed put for at nineteen, but
they're all gone, and now you have another group of
guys that you fine with any of them, so you
can move back five to ten spots. Like I'll give
you a scenario. Maybe we like gi Hot Campbell, maybe
the corner We think the two best cornerbacks are Will
Johnson and Jade Baron that they're both gone, and then
(10:12):
you like a lot of cornerbacks after that, like Maxwell
Harston or Benjamin Morrison or something, you can move backwards
and feel good about getting one of those.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I think it's a very very possible scenario this year.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And then also the other thing that I took from
what Jason was talking about was the team's really high
on sarbazi A Dennis.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yes, Yeah, I would agree with that, and I thought
both he and Bulls talked a lot about that, which
was interesting and and it has to be exciting for
Bucks fans to hear when especially you know, I mean,
we do know we have Levante David back, which is great,
but outside of that, that position has been kind of
influxing up in the air this offseason to know they
feel good about him, and I feel like they especially
talked about I remember, I think it was Bulls who
(10:52):
said that he's not just that third down guy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That's that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, And I thought that was a great point to
show that. I think that's how a lot of us
have been thinking about him and talking about it. And
I think it was largely especially because we talked about,
oh maybe kJ Britt and him platoon a bit. But
it's great to hear that they don't view him that way,
that they do view him as someone who could stand
in there.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
He and Levante all the time, which is a game.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And they also have Anthony Walker who they're high on
as well, So there's a little bit of a competition there. Yeah,
And competition is good.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Competition is always good.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, I know something else Jason talked about was, of
course Hassan Redick, one of the big additions this offseason
that wasn't a current guy. We resigned so many of
our own guys. That was one of the new people
that wasn't part of our roster this last year. So
tell me for you, Bree, what'stood about what he said
about him and just what we know at this point
about the expectations.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Well, when asked if getting Hassan Reddick would change the mindset,
I really liked what Jason said in that that gives
them the freedom to choose the best player available. They
don't feel pigeonholed, like getting Hassan Reddick was great, but
that's not necessarily going to stop them from taking an
edge in the first round, and if you have a
guy that falls that they feel really good about that's
(11:56):
on their board, they can feel they can take him
because you're not You have the deput You added Hassan Redick,
you brought back Anthony Nelson.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So now it isn't like you're going.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
In there and you're thinking you have to get an
edge because when you press, that's when mistakes can happen.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But now they have the freedom to choose.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Whoever's the top in their mind, whether that's the corner
or lineback or whoever.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, it doesn't keep them from doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I feel like we often when we discuss this position,
forget to mention Chris Braswell. Yeah, think about the fact
that he was the second round pick last year. They
obviously like him quite a bit, and I think he
was coming on a little bit at the end of year.
So there's there's a possibility that you already feel really
good about your rotation of yeah, yah, Hassan Reddick, Chris
Braswell or Anthony Nelson and whatever else that position.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, yeah, I think that listening to both of them,
and especially Coach Bowles talk about, you would assume him
being kind of the defensive minded guy that he'd really
be pushing for a defensive heavy draft, and we've been
assuming it's going to potentially be a defensive heavy draft
based on need. But both he and Jason talked about
this idea that it is about best available. We are
(12:58):
not going to pass up someone that is an offensive player.
That again, whether it's Hassan Redicks edition or wherever, we
are like, they want the best player available. They are
not going to go defense for the sake of it.
They're not going to go a certain position for the
sake of it. And hearing Bowls really say that, especially
to that, and I love how we put it. He's like,
I can always find ways to stop people.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
He's like, I can.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I can mix and match and do what I need.
He's like, but if you don't got the guys on
offense right, you're goes down or one of them goes
down to the horses. Yes, And so I thought that
was really interesting to just hear the way that both
of them talked about like we're up for anything.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Well, the way the question was presented to Todd was
you're a defensive coach, are you excited about this probably
being a high defense draft and goes, you know what,
as a defensive coach, I have learned that the way
you win games is scoring a lot of points. So
he's like, like you said, I can work around the
edges on defense, but you can't make up for not
having the horses there.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, which I think is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And then also I know he talked about the quotes
on he had on the forty yard dash and evaluating
corners and also about yah YadA yah.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
So I've always find it interesting when you have the
GM or you have the coach talk about the metris
and the testing and I loved you know, they were
asked a lot about it that at the combine too,
and Todd is very adamant that, you know, they look
at the tape first and then you use the numbers
to kind of solidify what you see. Or if you
have a guy that tests just out of this world,
takes the lid off Lucas oil, well then you go
(14:22):
back to the tape and see if it matches up.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But I love what he said.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
About corners, that there are certain position groups that the
forty yard dash is more imperative, and that corner is
one of those that's very critical. You have to have
a guy that can stay with those vertical threats, can
stay with a.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Guy on that fade ball. But if you have a team.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That you know plays a lot of zone, plays more
cover too, like you might necessarily not need as much
of the speed. And he said, of course, they look
at the short area quickness, they look at the ball skills,
they look if he's a willing tackler, and look at
all those things. But the forty is critical win evaluating
corners and just look at a guy like Maxwell Harrison
that ran a four two and he's a guy that's
really rising on mocks recently. He was in a lot
(15:01):
of first in this latest mock.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
That I did.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And then I loved when he was talking about ya
Ya d'abi. He talked a lot about in the first year,
Yalla y'all was kind of just wanting to run over guys,
was using the power, was using the force, and then
in year two he really kind of the mental part
clicked for Yaya and he was using more of a
tactical approach in finding more ways and understanding ways that
(15:26):
blockers were wanting to attack him. So I think you're
going to see a big lead from him this year,
and maybe the sack numbers weren't there for him, but
he was still getting the pressures and he was still
affecting the quarterback and moving him off of his spot
or making him throw quicker. So yeah, I thought overall
he had a really big year despite what the snotsmah.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Also, Todd Bowles said he hopes that Chris gottwill will
be ready for week one yep, which I mean hopes
isn't the same thing as knowing. Yeah, but I don't
think you would say that if you didn't really think
it was impossible.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, And I think he said, Bryce Hall seems to
be running full speed. He obvious say it hurt earlier,
run a full speed. He's excited about that as well.
So it was cold here injury updowns.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And we'll see what happens when we start the outstation
programs this month, man.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
That is this month.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That is wild all right, Well, that's going to do
it for us on this edition of Bucks Insider. Thanks
so much for being well us. We'll see you next week.
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