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June 11, 2025 29 mins

On the day of Trump’s spectacular public breakup with Elon Musk, news broke of phone calls and texts between Carney and Trump. Is a bromance blossoming?


Jan Wong joins to unpack the ongoing conversations between Trump and Carney, and how to navigate a relationship with a narcissist.


Plus, what else is Carney sneaking by us during his political honeymoon? 


Host: Jesse Brown

Credits: James Nicholson (Producer), Lucie Laumonier (Associate producer and Fact Checking) Tristan Capacchione (Audio Editor and Technical Producer), max collins (Director of Audio), Jesse Brown (Editor)

Guest: Jan Wong

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