March 25, 2025 • 30 mins
In this episode of Celeste the Therapist podcast, Celeste returns after her first-ever month-long break since starting the podcast in 2018. She discusses the importance of taking breaks and how it felt strange to be away from podcasting. The main topic of the episode focuses on the connection between the mind and food, inspired by the recent collaboration between DoorDash and Afterpay. Celeste explores why people turn to food as a form of escape and the psychological implications behind it. Additionally, she announces an upcoming free mental health wellness day on May 3rd from 12 to 4, featuring various wellness classes such as sound bath bowls, mindful yin, restorative yoga, and more. The wellness event will also offer 15-minute chair massages and an arts and crafts room, providing a holistic approach to mental well-being. Tune in to gain insights on the mind-food connection and learn more about the exciting wellness day event.
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Hey, y'all. Thank you so much for joining another episode of Celeste the
Therapist podcast. My name is Celeste. I'm a therapist from Boston. And
for my longtime listeners, this is the first time
I've actually taken a month break. I really needed to
take this break. uh and it was helpful but I
missed podcasting uh since 2018. I've
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never been away from this podcast for longer than a
week. I don't even think I've taken a week off of
podcasting so When you're doing something consistently
for a long time, it definitely feels weird not to do it.
And to not set up a podcast and
not do this was so weird for me. But I'm back, I'm
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back, I'm back. Today we're talking about the
mind and the food and how it connects. What
made me think about this topic is because I just seen
that DoorDash collaborated with
Afterpay. And I
think about how people will Uber and DoorDash food
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so quickly. And then just why we're
doing it, right? Food is a way for us to
escape. And so I want to talk about that. But before I talk
about that, I just want to let you know. So I am having a
mental health wellness day. I am May 3rd from
12 to 4. I am going to be providing a
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wellness day for the community free. We're
going to have four different classes. We're going to have a sound bath bowl
class, We're going to have rest and recharge, mindful yin,
and we are going to have restorative yoga. So
there's going to be four classes, each class at the top of the hour. It's going
to be first come first serve. I will also have two massage therapists
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that's going to be providing 15 minute chair massages, which is going to
be so cool. We're also going to have an arts and craft room
where people can go. And then another room, we're going to have a game
room. And of course we're going to have food because I mean, I
can't have an event without food. So that's something I've been working on
for the last couple of months. May
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is mental health awareness month. And if you know me, you know, mental health is so dear and
near to my heart. So that's something that's happening in May. And
if you want to sign up, just go to Eventbrite, you will see
the link there. I'm so excited about that. But in the meantime, I
still have programming happening at the center. We have three
classes that take place every month, regularly, outside
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of the people that may rent it for space. So we have our Mindful Yin
class that happens every month. We have restorative yoga and
we also have rest and
recharge. So these are somatic classes. If
you're feeling like you're wound up in the body and you
want to release some stuff, I promise you when you finish the class,
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you will be like, what just happened to me? So it's
a really powerful thing. It's something that has been so beneficial to
me and I want to offer it to the community. So if that's something that you're interested
in, if you go to stwyt.com or you
can go to Eventbrite and you can find the links there. Is
there anything else I want to say? So those are things that are coming up that
I'm excited about. So yeah, let's just jump right into the
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content. When it comes to the
way we escape in general, people talk about drugs,
they talk about alcohol, they talk about sex or relationships, and
a lot of times people miss food as a way to escape. It's
not something that my clients lead with. I end up understanding it
the more I meet with them and understand. I start to help
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them make the connection that, hey, maybe you're using
food as a way to cope with certain things that you're dealing
with. The way my mind works, because when I seen that they were collaborating,
and I'll talk to people, they were like, yeah, Uber, food, or DoorDash. I
need to get off DoorDash financially, too. A few podcasts ago,
I said, be mindful of the way you're spending money. And
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so when they bring up the DoorDash or the Uber Eats,
I'll talk about the financial aspect of it, right? Because obviously
it's super convenient to have it delivered. And if
you're having a hard day, if things are really hard,
it's easy to just like, you know what, let me order this, right? So that's
where I would lead with. But then a lot of times with other
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things, we start talking about food and how it's related. One
of the things I understand is that we're not really educated on how food
affects us. I wasn't educated. I know that for a fact. It
wasn't until I got older and I started to get more into
the holistic piece of wellness and not, you know,
we only know physical MD health,
right? Going to the doctor or psychiatry or therapy, right?
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Those are the general modalities that are consistently talked
about that you can get insurance to pay for. You can't get them to
pay for those somatic work. Sometimes nutritionists,
they will pay for nutritionists, right? But that's a specialty, so
that's more money out of co-payments. So there's a lot of
ways in which we don't understand how food is
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affecting us, how it's affecting our mental health, how it's
affecting our sluggishness. All of
the things that we may find ourselves dealing with,
we don't realize just how much Food plays
a role in it. So let's, I have visual. So
if you are not following me on YouTube, you can find me by searching
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Celeste the Therapist. And I always try to add
visual to the content because for me personally, I'm
a very visual learner. So it helps me to be able
to follow along. So the nutritional impact on mental health. So it says,
research shows that a balanced diet rich in fruits and vegetables, whole
grains, and lean proteins can positively influence mental
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health. Nutrients like omega-3 fatty
acids, vitamins, minerals play a crucial role in brain
function and regulation. So there's a lot of research that
shows there's a link between our mood and our mental health. And
one of the things that is definitely clear is that, The
foods that we have, even if we're eating somewhat healthy,
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they're not as dense in nutrients that they were before because
there's so many ways. Our country, if you live in America, America
is about making money. At the end of the day, it's
about how much money can I make off these people, not how much can we help. And
one of the things that I struggled with, oh, I think I talked about,
I don't know if I talked about it on the podcast, but really quick, for
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two years, I was struggling with a lot of physical health
issues. My liver turned on
itself. They diagnosed me with predisposition to autoimmune hepatitis.
And so my labs was all over the place, right? It
started in my eye. And then my eye was inflamed.
So I went to the eye doctor. The eye doctor was like,
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if it happens again, I want you to run these tests. He gave me
a list of specialty tests. It happened again. I went to
the doctor. The doctor never seen these tests. And honestly,
I wasn't met with real, because it was more like flu-like
symptoms, but not flu. I can't really explain it. I
just remember telling my husband, I feel like my body's attacking itself,
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right? So I had these crazy symptoms. that
if it wasn't for the eye doctor asking the doctor to run specific
labs it would have just seemed like i was having some kind of like
flu like episode right so anyways my
pcp wasn't there as you know i seen a doctor a philand doctor
he was very um what's the word i want to use he
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wasn't really like I was like, God,
I want to use a word. I don't know what word I want to use. So he basically wasn't
really attentive. It was like, yeah, OK. And
he had to do more work to look up the lab numbers at the eye doctor. He
tried to push it on the eye doctor. The eye doctor was like, you're the primary
care. You run it. So he ran it
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and he said they'll be back probably in a week. I called him in a week. He
was like, I mean, I emailed him. He was like, oh, it's not ready yet or whatever, but it's probably
going to be nothing. That's literally, I have the email. Let me see if I can see
it so I can post it. But I'm saying it's probably nothing.
two weeks later it came back because the labs took a long time because
it was a specialty lab literally all of my freaking
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uh stuff was off the charts like my liver was jacked up so
much stuff was jacked up and um so
then they referred me to a gut doctor he's called a gastronologist
gastro sorry i might be pronouncing it wrong So I
go to the gastro person and he said my labs were very elevated It
wasn't to the point where I would have needed to get on steroids right away But
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he was going to monitor me. So every three months I would go get my liver labs
done and um over like the course of
a year, right so For me, starting July
2022 is when symptoms first started, where
I was just like, I didn't feel like myself. And at the time, a
friend of mine passed away, and I thought I was just sad only
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about him passing away. And
then my eye was jacked up, so I thought I was sleeping too much and crying too
much. That's why my eye was jacked up. It was a weird coincidence of
this time. And so
I'm seeing this liver doctor, I'm having these symptoms. At night, sometimes my
bones would ache. I wouldn't want to do any speaking engagements because I'm like, I
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don't know how I'm going to feel. So March 2023, that's
crazy. We're in March now. I can't believe this story wasn't planned.
This story wasn't planned. So literally last year, this year,
this is crazy. So last year, this year. I
decided I was going to, I
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went to the doctor. It was going to be my last liver appointment. So I went to the doctor because I
was sick. I have lymphoid. My lymph nodes are swollen behind
my ear. I'm feeling this weird sickness. It's
happening more at an increased rate. I
felt like I wasn't getting any better. The liver doctor discharged me because he's like, yo,
your liver's fine. since the year I've been monitoring it
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hasn't been elevated to the point where I felt like you needed anything. So
the doctor at the PCP office is
telling me I'm fine. The liver doctor is like, you're
good. I know I'm not good. So what your girl do? So
I didn't know what to do, but I don't know what made
me do this, but I went to Quest Lab. I
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was like, yo, give me the full panel. Give your girl the full panel. So
they gave me the full panel. Literally the next day they called me,
they was all like, yo, your vitamin D
level is 12. It
should be at least 30. You need to call your PCP and start getting on
the, there's a weekly dose of high units to take. And
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I go down the rabbit hole of looking at the vitamin D
and the deficiency. crazy literally all my symptoms
were because i had a vitamin d deficiency and
the thing that i'm struggling with is that i've seen three
different doctors remember if you're following the story i've seen my eye doctor i've
seen my the pcp and i've seen the
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gastro doctor Nobody said, yo, let's run her labs.
I was struggling with, I had a constipation. I would
have to take prune juice to use the bathroom. I
had aches and pains at night. I was losing weight rapidly. I
wasn't mad about the weight loss, but I knew it wasn't normal. I
knew it wasn't normal. You know what I'm saying? That's the only good thing that came out
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of it was a little weight loss. And I knew it wasn't
normal. And not one doctor said, let's run her
vitamin. In fact, after I learned about all of
this, I Went on my chart. I've
never had vitamin. I've been with this lady, uh since Since
my son my son's gonna be 14 since my son was born Not one
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time have I had labs ran and um So I
went down the rabbit hole and I seen all the ways that it can affect
it creates autoimmune disease issues Um, it
can create mood issues It could create so much
havoc on your body. So boom, your girl start taking the
weekly dose. Also, if I'm deficient, I
said, let me get everybody in the house checked. Everybody in the house is
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deficient. Everybody in the house is deficient. We all
on vitamin D now. We all on multivitamin now, right? And
even I noticed an improvement in my daughter's mood.
Not only was she vitamin D deficient, she was iron deficient. She's
12, never had her vitamins checked. crazy right and
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the fact that like and it's not by accident it's designed this
way because guess what if i had my vitamin check i would have been at
walgreens cvs grabbing some pills and all them
tests i have i have to pay for insurance out of pocket The
amount of bills that I have had from
these specialties and all of these things could have been avoided if
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I was at Walgreens getting vitamin D. And now that
we're talking about this, this was not my plan, but March, this
is one year. So I started taking those vitamin D pills.
They gave me like a, I had to take one for eight
weeks. It was a high dosage, now I take it regular. Since
then, I haven't had once, I've been a year symptom-free. None of those
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symptoms came back. And
so I'm constantly sharing with my clients, can you please check your
vitamin D? Hey, you know your vitamin D is low? Get it checked because
it creates so much havoc. I say all that to say, even
if you're eating the right foods, that there's a possibility that
there could be some vitamins that you're missing. So when you go to
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your PCP, because when I've had clients talk to their PCP, they
were like, oh, they said, what do you need that for? And it's so annoying. I
get so pissed off. I was like, tell them that your therapist wants to
rule out medical. Because if you're telling me you're tired, if
you're telling me you're giving me all these symptoms and we're working
on things, we need to rule out that you're functioning at
your optimal level. At 12, my vitamin D
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should have been at least at 30. I was not functioning at my optimal level and
still trying to function. And especially being Black in America, we
consistently do that. So if your doctor gives you
pushback, please do me a huge favor and say, like, hey, I
need to make sure to rule out medical because I'm having these symptoms, right?
And then after I did the test and
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I sent it to my PCP, she was like, oh, why didn't you tell me you want these RAN? Because,
lady, I didn't know I needed them RAN. I'm not the doctor. And
that's why you got to take your medical health into your own hands. I'm
getting off topic, but y'all feel what I'm saying. All
right, so let's go on. So that's the nutritional impact
on mental health. Now, emotional eating, right? This is
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something that's important. This is why a lot of times we get to the point
of using food. Many people turn to food as a coping mechanism for
stress, anxiety, depression, while it can provide a
temporary relief, because we don't want to lie. You know what I'm saying? When you get that cake in your system,
when you get that ice cream in your system, you'll be like, ooh, you
know? um it does give you that temporary relief
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emotional eating can lead to negative outcomes including weight gain increased
feelings of guilt and shame right so that's something that is
important a lot of people don't realize emotional eating is a real thing it happens
um and you know towards the end we'll talk
about like how to be more mindful of how you eat But understand
that because food is free, it's legal, right? You have access
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and all that DoorDash is offering after pay. Even if you ain't got the money, you
can finance it. I don't want you financing food. I
do not want you financing, especially food that has no nutritional value. I
know you're not going on DoorDash to get no salad, right? And
just be mindful of how you are eating,
when you are eating. It's so important. But yes, a lot
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of times, emotional eating is such a huge part of how
we find ourselves coping. And it's
important to understand that it does offer relief, right?
Anytime I'm frustrated, I crave
sweets or something greasy like a burger. And
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when that craving comes up, I'm mindful. Every now
and then, do I cave in and I get the burger and the cake? I
do. I get the burger and the cake. Do I do it every time? No.
I'm constantly checking in with myself. That's why the mind-body connection
is so important, because your body's gonna give you signs that you're okay before
you do. Gut-brain connection. So the gut has
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been linked to mental health. A healthy gut can produce neurotransmitters like
serotonin, which is essential for mood regulation, right?
A lot of times the people who are on psychiatric medications, there's
some serotonin. It helps with the mood stuff, right?
And even if you are on that medication, on those medications, don't
just rely on the medication, right? Like take the stuff that
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I'm talking about in regards to food into account. So
you can actually have more added, like the medicine is one component, like
therapy is one component, but then what can we do to
be more healthy and mindful, right? I don't think a lot of doctors
talk about this. So maintaining good health
is essentially for overall wellbeing. It supports your digestion, strengthens
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your immune system, regulates metabolism, improve mental
health, and reduces risk of chronic diseases. So when
you start taking care of your gut, you're actually taking care of your overall health,
right? That's important to remember. Now,
let's talk about the socioeconomic factors that kind
of affect us. So, access to healthy food can be limited
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by our socioeconomic status, which can exasperate mental
health issues. Food deserts and financial constraints can lead to reliance on
unhealthy and processed food. Let's be clear. It's
not by accident that there's food deserts and we
don't have access to certain foods. I remember when I
first went to Trader Joe's, I was
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in Florida and then we drove to the
Trader Joe's. Then I'm in Massachusetts and my son is in
AAU. Anytime we would go to certain games, which was in more affluent, higher
socioeconomic areas, Trader Joe's would be there. I
love Trader Joe's. And I remember my son said,
how come it seems like Trader Joe's are all only in the good areas, right?
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No shade to Trader Joe's. But it's not by
accident that in some of the areas where there's
a low socioeconomic status, there's not healthy food
choices. And I remember when
I was working at this agency, I was making pretty
decent money. I was a supervisor, and there was a cheap place across
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the street where you could get like a little meal for $5, like some rice, some
fried pork, and something else. And I remember this white lady, she was
like, I don't understand why they eat at that place. And
I remember thinking, because it's cheap and it's affordable. And
when I became a supervisor, I've worked in the field since I was 19. So
I was hustling and bustling. And then the higher I got, the
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less hustle and bustle I had to do, but the more money I received.
And when she made that comment, I was just thinking
how uninformed people are about the lack of choices people
have when you don't grow up with money,
when you don't grow up with the knowledge on how food affects you.
Now, there's certain foods I won't eat if I'm about
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to go to bed or if I have an event because
I don't want to feel heavy. You know what I mean? I'm more of
a conscious eater, but I had to learn that over time. And
so just because, like I said, I didn't grow up like this, just because you
didn't know or you didn't learn don't mean you can't learn and understand. But
it's real when you go to the grocery store if you don't have access to
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a car and they don't have a lot of choices and the choices they
do have is actually cheaper to get certain
unhealthy foods than it is to buy healthy foods. The
households with a higher socioeconomic status spends more
money on food Not because the quantity,
it's not like they have a lot more food and that's why they're spending
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more. They're spending more on food because to have healthy
food, it costs more money. To eat
healthy, it costs more money. And even
now, I think about how everything is so freaking high. And
so I understand how it gets to that
point. And I just want people to challenge themselves, right?
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Because it's easy to get stuck in, well, I don't have this and I don't have that,
so I can't do this. So I hear you, right? But
I do want you to think about, OK, I don't have certain
things that would be nice, but maybe I can make this substitution here.
Maybe instead of having burgers and fries, I can do
a burger and a salad. Start making small choices. The
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choices, in order to get yourself to a place of healthy eating,
it's not going to happen overnight, right? I don't have access to
like fresh corn or fresh beans cost
a lot of money, so let me try the frozen ones, right?
And also there's cultural factors to how we eat, right?
So my husband's Haitian and in the
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Haitian culture, rice is a huge staple of the
foods that they eat. A lot of times, if you think about it, rice, it fills you up.
A lot of the ways that we eat, I think about slavery and how they gave us
crap and we made it work. We seasoned it,
we made it taste good, we made it work. We
needed enough food to fulfill us because we
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didn't have access to a lot. A lot of the ways that we thought
and we operate gets passed on. A lot of people,
especially in the Haitian community, I know
because I work with the population so well and my husband's
patient, there's a lot of like high blood pressure, right? It's because
of the type of foods that they're eating. Even
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when people are trying to transition from like not so much rice to maybe
like couscous or something else, it feels hard to accept because
your palates aren't used to it. That's why I said, as you're trying to
work on change, understand it's going to take some time. I tell the story
all the time on the podcast when I was starting
to go to the gym and lose weight after I had my daughter, I was
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going to Burger King because, you know what I'm saying? I thought I was trying
to reward myself, you know? And then I learned I wasn't losing the
weight because I'm at Burger King, you know? give me a
number one whopper baby and um i was like
oh that's why okay let me change up let me change it up i started changing it
up i was like let me get all this stuff at the time i didn't know how
to cook i know how to cook now but i got all this stuff and
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found myself um wasting it because i didn't know what to
do with it so then i started uh buying these naked
drinks it's called naked it's like a smoothie And
then I said, let me just try to make changes
little by little. I started with breakfast and I would make my own smoothie at home. So
after three months, I got used to that smoothie. At first it was probably like,
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ugh, you know, cause my palates was used to Burger King and processed food.
There was a day that I forgot to make the smoothie. So I said, let me just grab one
of these naked drinks. Man, when I tell you that drink was
so sweet, that drink was so sweet and I was like, oh my gosh, look at
all the sugar, right? And so now I don't buy the
naked drinks and I make everything on my own. And
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it took time, it took patience, it took grace. I had a
lot of grace with myself. I had a lot of patience with myself. I
realized it's a process, right? And if this is the
first time you're hearing this and it's speaking to you,
have grace with yourself, have patience with yourself, like let this be the start
of your journey. And if you are already on your journey, this is
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a reminder to keep going because over time you're
going to find yourself getting more acclimated to the
new system that you're trying to create, right? Like your
palates are going to get more acclimated to the system you're trying to create. Um,
so last thing I want to talk about, you know, if you're not, if you're new to the podcast, I'm
talking about the struggles, but I'm gonna talk about the solutions. That's what I do
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on here. Um, so when it comes to solutions, what comes up for me
is like being mindful of how you are eating, right?
Mindful eating practices. So practice, as
you can see on the screen, practice, mindful eating can help you
develop a healthier relationship with food. This involves paying attention to
your hunger cues, right? So when you're hungry, so
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now I don't have it on my phone, but for probably six months on
my phone, I said, are you really hungry? Well, would you have some broccoli? And
I was like, no, I guess I'm not that hungry. So I'm more
mindful of, um, The stuff that I
eat, I would put peanuts, pistachios, almonds
around. My snacking started to look different. Over
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time, I don't even bring certain things into the house. If I do, I
don't bring a bulk of it. I just get one serving, because it's not
about not having any savory foods, but it's about not
doing it every day. That's the issue, is that we're doing
it more often. and then recognizing emotional triggers
for eating. So like I said, when I'm stressed out, your
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girl want a burger and chocolate cake, like give me it fast, baby.
So I know like, okay. And then, you know, it's
crazy, but after dinner, I don't know if
it's in my blood. I want something sweet every time. And
I recognize that cue. I don't have it in the house. So
then I started doing like Greek yogurt and bananas.
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Like now it's crazy. I would have never
thought I got to this place, but bananas feel like something sweet for me. Um,
it's, it's taken a while for me to get there, but I really was on
a whole, like, I need me like some cookies and some cake. So
yeah, paying attention to hunger cues and savory meals, keeping a food journal can
be helpful to identify your emotional triggers. Right. Um,
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just write it down. Get, it doesn't have to be fancy. You don't got to get no app,
you know, any kind of a thing I talk about on here. I want it
to be accessible or you could start now where there's no, income
barriers. So when you think about keeping a food journal, like
you could take the notes from the app off your phone and every
time you eat, pay attention to it and then check in with yourself. How am I
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feeling? Right. Because sometimes, like I said, you're going to go for that
juggler and get that thing that feels like it's numbing the
pain in the moment. But at least now you're mindfully doing
it. You're you're in tune with what's going on and
you're not doing it like without realizing what's happening.
A lot of us are just eating, we're going through the motions and not realizing what's
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happening. As you're eating, eliminate distractions
and eat slow, right? It's easy to be on our phones, watch
something and eat, right? So if you're trying to work on the
way you're eating, try not to have distractions around,
try to sit and eat. And smaller
plates are better, right? Like if you, you know, the thing is
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like when we grow up, you know, finish your food, right?
And we feel guilty about not finishing all of
our food. Like I will wrap up my, when people don't
wrap up their leftovers at restaurants, I'm like, I want my leftovers. Even
if it's a little bite, I'm gonna take it. And so what you
can do is grab smaller plates put smaller portions on
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there, even have a glass of water before, a glass of
water after, because a lot of times we think we're still
hungry, but we're not really that hungry. And so you'll be
surprised, the more you learn your hunger cues, the more
you learn how to manage the way that you're eating, you'll
find yourself eating slower and less, right? So
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this is important. This is a topic I wanted to talk about
because I recognize that there's so much going on around
the world, right? Unprecedented times, especially for
me as a therapist. I thought the pandemic
was the top tier of unprecedented times,
but this definitely matches anything. And we're
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all trying to figure it out. And so if
this message speaks to you, I just want you to understand that
it's important when you learn something about the
way you're operating to be intentional about making changes
in your life. If that's something you want to do, if you're listening to this and you're like,
you know what, Celestis is really good and I want to start making changes. You
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got Google at your fingertips, right? You got AI, like,
how can I make a plan? What can I start with? I would challenge
you to start with one meal at first. If all of your meals are not really healthy
or good, start with just breakfast or start with dinner. But
start slow and be mindful that it's going to take time, but
it's only going to happen with intention. Like I said
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on the phone, I had a screensaver that said, are you really hungry? Would
you have broccoli? I would see it so much that It sticks with
me even just last night. I was I had what did I eat? I
can't remember Um, whatever I ate and I remember thinking like
dang. I want something else. But then I said do you want broccoli? That's how much
it stuck with me So make sure you're intentional about the process If
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you enjoyed this episode do me a huge favor share with somebody that you
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over head on over to youtube and uh, check me out And
then what else I want to say, follow my wellness page,
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the Therapist. You could find in my stories, I talk a
lot about me and a lot of things that are
going on. And if you enjoyed this episode, I
would love to hear what part stuck out for you. You can
email me, you can write it under my page when I promote the
episode. So thank you all so much for listening to
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me and for rocking out. I truly appreciate it. And
Hey, y'all. Thank you so much for joining another episode of Celeste the
Therapist podcast. My name is Celeste. I'm a therapist from Boston. And
for my longtime listeners, this is the first time
I've actually taken a month break. I really needed to
take this break. uh and it was helpful but I
missed podcasting uh since 2018. I've
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never been away from this podcast for longer than a
week. I don't even think I've taken a week off of
podcasting so When you're doing something consistently
for a long time, it definitely feels weird not to do it.
And to not set up a podcast and
not do this was so weird for me. But I'm back, I'm
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back, I'm back. Today we're talking about the
mind and the food and how it connects. What
made me think about this topic is because I just seen
that DoorDash collaborated with
Afterpay. And I
think about how people will Uber and DoorDash food
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so quickly. And then just why we're
doing it, right? Food is a way for us to
escape. And so I want to talk about that. But before I talk
about that, I just want to let you know. So I am having a
mental health wellness day. I am May 3rd from
12 to 4. I am going to be providing a
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wellness day for the community free. We're
going to have four different classes. We're going to have a sound bath bowl
class, We're going to have rest and recharge, mindful yin,
and we are going to have restorative yoga. So
there's going to be four classes, each class at the top of the hour. It's going
to be first come first serve. I will also have two massage therapists
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that's going to be providing 15 minute chair massages, which is going to
be so cool. We're also going to have an arts and craft room
where people can go. And then another room, we're going to have a game
room. And of course we're going to have food because I mean, I
can't have an event without food. So that's something I've been working on
for the last couple of months. May
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is mental health awareness month. And if you know me, you know, mental health is so dear and
near to my heart. So that's something that's happening in May. And
if you want to sign up, just go to Eventbrite, you will see
the link there. I'm so excited about that. But in the meantime, I
still have programming happening at the center. We have three
classes that take place every month, regularly, outside
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of the people that may rent it for space. So we have our Mindful Yin
class that happens every month. We have restorative yoga and
we also have rest and
recharge. So these are somatic classes. If
you're feeling like you're wound up in the body and you
want to release some stuff, I promise you when you finish the class,
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you will be like, what just happened to me? So it's
a really powerful thing. It's something that has been so beneficial to
me and I want to offer it to the community. So if that's something that you're interested
in, if you go to stwyt.com or you
can go to Eventbrite and you can find the links there. Is
there anything else I want to say? So those are things that are coming up that
I'm excited about. So yeah, let's just jump right into the
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content. When it comes to the
way we escape in general, people talk about drugs,
they talk about alcohol, they talk about sex or relationships, and
a lot of times people miss food as a way to escape. It's
not something that my clients lead with. I end up understanding it
the more I meet with them and understand. I start to help
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them make the connection that, hey, maybe you're using
food as a way to cope with certain things that you're dealing
with. The way my mind works, because when I seen that they were collaborating,
and I'll talk to people, they were like, yeah, Uber, food, or DoorDash. I
need to get off DoorDash financially, too. A few podcasts ago,
I said, be mindful of the way you're spending money. And
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so when they bring up the DoorDash or the Uber Eats,
I'll talk about the financial aspect of it, right? Because obviously
it's super convenient to have it delivered. And if
you're having a hard day, if things are really hard,
it's easy to just like, you know what, let me order this, right? So that's
where I would lead with. But then a lot of times with other
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things, we start talking about food and how it's related. One
of the things I understand is that we're not really educated on how food
affects us. I wasn't educated. I know that for a fact. It
wasn't until I got older and I started to get more into
the holistic piece of wellness and not, you know,
we only know physical MD health,
right? Going to the doctor or psychiatry or therapy, right?
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Those are the general modalities that are consistently talked
about that you can get insurance to pay for. You can't get them to
pay for those somatic work. Sometimes nutritionists,
they will pay for nutritionists, right? But that's a specialty, so
that's more money out of co-payments. So there's a lot of
ways in which we don't understand how food is
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affecting us, how it's affecting our mental health, how it's
affecting our sluggishness. All of
the things that we may find ourselves dealing with,
we don't realize just how much Food plays
a role in it. So let's, I have visual. So
if you are not following me on YouTube, you can find me by searching
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Celeste the Therapist. And I always try to add
visual to the content because for me personally, I'm
a very visual learner. So it helps me to be able
to follow along. So the nutritional impact on mental health. So it says,
research shows that a balanced diet rich in fruits and vegetables, whole
grains, and lean proteins can positively influence mental
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health. Nutrients like omega-3 fatty
acids, vitamins, minerals play a crucial role in brain
function and regulation. So there's a lot of research that
shows there's a link between our mood and our mental health. And
one of the things that is definitely clear is that, The
foods that we have, even if we're eating somewhat healthy,
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they're not as dense in nutrients that they were before because
there's so many ways. Our country, if you live in America, America
is about making money. At the end of the day, it's
about how much money can I make off these people, not how much can we help. And
one of the things that I struggled with, oh, I think I talked about,
I don't know if I talked about it on the podcast, but really quick, for
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two years, I was struggling with a lot of physical health
issues. My liver turned on
itself. They diagnosed me with predisposition to autoimmune hepatitis.
And so my labs was all over the place, right? It
started in my eye. And then my eye was inflamed.
So I went to the eye doctor. The eye doctor was like,
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if it happens again, I want you to run these tests. He gave me
a list of specialty tests. It happened again. I went to
the doctor. The doctor never seen these tests. And honestly,
I wasn't met with real, because it was more like flu-like
symptoms, but not flu. I can't really explain it. I
just remember telling my husband, I feel like my body's attacking itself,
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right? So I had these crazy symptoms. that
if it wasn't for the eye doctor asking the doctor to run specific
labs it would have just seemed like i was having some kind of like
flu like episode right so anyways my
pcp wasn't there as you know i seen a doctor a philand doctor
he was very um what's the word i want to use he
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wasn't really like I was like, God,
I want to use a word. I don't know what word I want to use. So he basically wasn't
really attentive. It was like, yeah, OK. And
he had to do more work to look up the lab numbers at the eye doctor. He
tried to push it on the eye doctor. The eye doctor was like, you're the primary
care. You run it. So he ran it
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and he said they'll be back probably in a week. I called him in a week. He
was like, I mean, I emailed him. He was like, oh, it's not ready yet or whatever, but it's probably
going to be nothing. That's literally, I have the email. Let me see if I can see
it so I can post it. But I'm saying it's probably nothing.
two weeks later it came back because the labs took a long time because
it was a specialty lab literally all of my freaking
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uh stuff was off the charts like my liver was jacked up so
much stuff was jacked up and um so
then they referred me to a gut doctor he's called a gastronologist
gastro sorry i might be pronouncing it wrong So I
go to the gastro person and he said my labs were very elevated It
wasn't to the point where I would have needed to get on steroids right away But
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he was going to monitor me. So every three months I would go get my liver labs
done and um over like the course of
a year, right so For me, starting July
2022 is when symptoms first started, where
I was just like, I didn't feel like myself. And at the time, a
friend of mine passed away, and I thought I was just sad only
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about him passing away. And
then my eye was jacked up, so I thought I was sleeping too much and crying too
much. That's why my eye was jacked up. It was a weird coincidence of
this time. And so
I'm seeing this liver doctor, I'm having these symptoms. At night, sometimes my
bones would ache. I wouldn't want to do any speaking engagements because I'm like, I
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don't know how I'm going to feel. So March 2023, that's
crazy. We're in March now. I can't believe this story wasn't planned.
This story wasn't planned. So literally last year, this year,
this is crazy. So last year, this year. I
decided I was going to, I
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went to the doctor. It was going to be my last liver appointment. So I went to the doctor because I
was sick. I have lymphoid. My lymph nodes are swollen behind
my ear. I'm feeling this weird sickness. It's
happening more at an increased rate. I
felt like I wasn't getting any better. The liver doctor discharged me because he's like, yo,
your liver's fine. since the year I've been monitoring it
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hasn't been elevated to the point where I felt like you needed anything. So
the doctor at the PCP office is
telling me I'm fine. The liver doctor is like, you're
good. I know I'm not good. So what your girl do? So
I didn't know what to do, but I don't know what made
me do this, but I went to Quest Lab. I
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was like, yo, give me the full panel. Give your girl the full panel. So
they gave me the full panel. Literally the next day they called me,
they was all like, yo, your vitamin D
level is 12. It
should be at least 30. You need to call your PCP and start getting on
the, there's a weekly dose of high units to take. And
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I go down the rabbit hole of looking at the vitamin D
and the deficiency. crazy literally all my symptoms
were because i had a vitamin d deficiency and
the thing that i'm struggling with is that i've seen three
different doctors remember if you're following the story i've seen my eye doctor i've
seen my the pcp and i've seen the
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gastro doctor Nobody said, yo, let's run her labs.
I was struggling with, I had a constipation. I would
have to take prune juice to use the bathroom. I
had aches and pains at night. I was losing weight rapidly. I
wasn't mad about the weight loss, but I knew it wasn't normal. I
knew it wasn't normal. You know what I'm saying? That's the only good thing that came out
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of it was a little weight loss. And I knew it wasn't
normal. And not one doctor said, let's run her
vitamin. In fact, after I learned about all of
this, I Went on my chart. I've
never had vitamin. I've been with this lady, uh since Since
my son my son's gonna be 14 since my son was born Not one
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time have I had labs ran and um So I
went down the rabbit hole and I seen all the ways that it can affect
it creates autoimmune disease issues Um, it
can create mood issues It could create so much
havoc on your body. So boom, your girl start taking the
weekly dose. Also, if I'm deficient, I
said, let me get everybody in the house checked. Everybody in the house is
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deficient. Everybody in the house is deficient. We all
on vitamin D now. We all on multivitamin now, right? And
even I noticed an improvement in my daughter's mood.
Not only was she vitamin D deficient, she was iron deficient. She's
12, never had her vitamins checked. crazy right and
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the fact that like and it's not by accident it's designed this
way because guess what if i had my vitamin check i would have been at
walgreens cvs grabbing some pills and all them
tests i have i have to pay for insurance out of pocket The
amount of bills that I have had from
these specialties and all of these things could have been avoided if
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I was at Walgreens getting vitamin D. And now that
we're talking about this, this was not my plan, but March, this
is one year. So I started taking those vitamin D pills.
They gave me like a, I had to take one for eight
weeks. It was a high dosage, now I take it regular. Since
then, I haven't had once, I've been a year symptom-free. None of those
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symptoms came back. And
so I'm constantly sharing with my clients, can you please check your
vitamin D? Hey, you know your vitamin D is low? Get it checked because
it creates so much havoc. I say all that to say, even
if you're eating the right foods, that there's a possibility that
there could be some vitamins that you're missing. So when you go to
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your PCP, because when I've had clients talk to their PCP, they
were like, oh, they said, what do you need that for? And it's so annoying. I
get so pissed off. I was like, tell them that your therapist wants to
rule out medical. Because if you're telling me you're tired, if
you're telling me you're giving me all these symptoms and we're working
on things, we need to rule out that you're functioning at
your optimal level. At 12, my vitamin D
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should have been at least at 30. I was not functioning at my optimal level and
still trying to function. And especially being Black in America, we
consistently do that. So if your doctor gives you
pushback, please do me a huge favor and say, like, hey, I
need to make sure to rule out medical because I'm having these symptoms, right?
And then after I did the test and
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I sent it to my PCP, she was like, oh, why didn't you tell me you want these RAN? Because,
lady, I didn't know I needed them RAN. I'm not the doctor. And
that's why you got to take your medical health into your own hands. I'm
getting off topic, but y'all feel what I'm saying. All
right, so let's go on. So that's the nutritional impact
on mental health. Now, emotional eating, right? This is
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something that's important. This is why a lot of times we get to the point
of using food. Many people turn to food as a coping mechanism for
stress, anxiety, depression, while it can provide a
temporary relief, because we don't want to lie. You know what I'm saying? When you get that cake in your system,
when you get that ice cream in your system, you'll be like, ooh, you
know? um it does give you that temporary relief
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emotional eating can lead to negative outcomes including weight gain increased
feelings of guilt and shame right so that's something that is
important a lot of people don't realize emotional eating is a real thing it happens
um and you know towards the end we'll talk
about like how to be more mindful of how you eat But understand
that because food is free, it's legal, right? You have access
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and all that DoorDash is offering after pay. Even if you ain't got the money, you
can finance it. I don't want you financing food. I
do not want you financing, especially food that has no nutritional value. I
know you're not going on DoorDash to get no salad, right? And
just be mindful of how you are eating,
when you are eating. It's so important. But yes, a lot
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of times, emotional eating is such a huge part of how
we find ourselves coping. And it's
important to understand that it does offer relief, right?
Anytime I'm frustrated, I crave
sweets or something greasy like a burger. And
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when that craving comes up, I'm mindful. Every now
and then, do I cave in and I get the burger and the cake? I
do. I get the burger and the cake. Do I do it every time? No.
I'm constantly checking in with myself. That's why the mind-body connection
is so important, because your body's gonna give you signs that you're okay before
you do. Gut-brain connection. So the gut has
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been linked to mental health. A healthy gut can produce neurotransmitters like
serotonin, which is essential for mood regulation, right?
A lot of times the people who are on psychiatric medications, there's
some serotonin. It helps with the mood stuff, right?
And even if you are on that medication, on those medications, don't
just rely on the medication, right? Like take the stuff that
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I'm talking about in regards to food into account. So
you can actually have more added, like the medicine is one component, like
therapy is one component, but then what can we do to
be more healthy and mindful, right? I don't think a lot of doctors
talk about this. So maintaining good health
is essentially for overall wellbeing. It supports your digestion, strengthens
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your immune system, regulates metabolism, improve mental
health, and reduces risk of chronic diseases. So when
you start taking care of your gut, you're actually taking care of your overall health,
right? That's important to remember. Now,
let's talk about the socioeconomic factors that kind
of affect us. So, access to healthy food can be limited
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by our socioeconomic status, which can exasperate mental
health issues. Food deserts and financial constraints can lead to reliance on
unhealthy and processed food. Let's be clear. It's
not by accident that there's food deserts and we
don't have access to certain foods. I remember when I
first went to Trader Joe's, I was
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in Florida and then we drove to the
Trader Joe's. Then I'm in Massachusetts and my son is in
AAU. Anytime we would go to certain games, which was in more affluent, higher
socioeconomic areas, Trader Joe's would be there. I
love Trader Joe's. And I remember my son said,
how come it seems like Trader Joe's are all only in the good areas, right?
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No shade to Trader Joe's. But it's not by
accident that in some of the areas where there's
a low socioeconomic status, there's not healthy food
choices. And I remember when
I was working at this agency, I was making pretty
decent money. I was a supervisor, and there was a cheap place across
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the street where you could get like a little meal for $5, like some rice, some
fried pork, and something else. And I remember this white lady, she was
like, I don't understand why they eat at that place. And
I remember thinking, because it's cheap and it's affordable. And
when I became a supervisor, I've worked in the field since I was 19. So
I was hustling and bustling. And then the higher I got, the
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less hustle and bustle I had to do, but the more money I received.
And when she made that comment, I was just thinking
how uninformed people are about the lack of choices people
have when you don't grow up with money,
when you don't grow up with the knowledge on how food affects you.
Now, there's certain foods I won't eat if I'm about
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to go to bed or if I have an event because
I don't want to feel heavy. You know what I mean? I'm more of
a conscious eater, but I had to learn that over time. And
so just because, like I said, I didn't grow up like this, just because you
didn't know or you didn't learn don't mean you can't learn and understand. But
it's real when you go to the grocery store if you don't have access to
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a car and they don't have a lot of choices and the choices they
do have is actually cheaper to get certain
unhealthy foods than it is to buy healthy foods. The
households with a higher socioeconomic status spends more
money on food Not because the quantity,
it's not like they have a lot more food and that's why they're spending
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more. They're spending more on food because to have healthy
food, it costs more money. To eat
healthy, it costs more money. And even
now, I think about how everything is so freaking high. And
so I understand how it gets to that
point. And I just want people to challenge themselves, right?
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Because it's easy to get stuck in, well, I don't have this and I don't have that,
so I can't do this. So I hear you, right? But
I do want you to think about, OK, I don't have certain
things that would be nice, but maybe I can make this substitution here.
Maybe instead of having burgers and fries, I can do
a burger and a salad. Start making small choices. The
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choices, in order to get yourself to a place of healthy eating,
it's not going to happen overnight, right? I don't have access to
like fresh corn or fresh beans cost
a lot of money, so let me try the frozen ones, right?
And also there's cultural factors to how we eat, right?
So my husband's Haitian and in the
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Haitian culture, rice is a huge staple of the
foods that they eat. A lot of times, if you think about it, rice, it fills you up.
A lot of the ways that we eat, I think about slavery and how they gave us
crap and we made it work. We seasoned it,
we made it taste good, we made it work. We
needed enough food to fulfill us because we
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didn't have access to a lot. A lot of the ways that we thought
and we operate gets passed on. A lot of people,
especially in the Haitian community, I know
because I work with the population so well and my husband's
patient, there's a lot of like high blood pressure, right? It's because
of the type of foods that they're eating. Even
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when people are trying to transition from like not so much rice to maybe
like couscous or something else, it feels hard to accept because
your palates aren't used to it. That's why I said, as you're trying to
work on change, understand it's going to take some time. I tell the story
all the time on the podcast when I was starting
to go to the gym and lose weight after I had my daughter, I was
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going to Burger King because, you know what I'm saying? I thought I was trying
to reward myself, you know? And then I learned I wasn't losing the
weight because I'm at Burger King, you know? give me a
number one whopper baby and um i was like
oh that's why okay let me change up let me change it up i started changing it
up i was like let me get all this stuff at the time i didn't know how
to cook i know how to cook now but i got all this stuff and
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found myself um wasting it because i didn't know what to
do with it so then i started uh buying these naked
drinks it's called naked it's like a smoothie And
then I said, let me just try to make changes
little by little. I started with breakfast and I would make my own smoothie at home. So
after three months, I got used to that smoothie. At first it was probably like,
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ugh, you know, cause my palates was used to Burger King and processed food.
There was a day that I forgot to make the smoothie. So I said, let me just grab one
of these naked drinks. Man, when I tell you that drink was
so sweet, that drink was so sweet and I was like, oh my gosh, look at
all the sugar, right? And so now I don't buy the
naked drinks and I make everything on my own. And
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it took time, it took patience, it took grace. I had a
lot of grace with myself. I had a lot of patience with myself. I
realized it's a process, right? And if this is the
first time you're hearing this and it's speaking to you,
have grace with yourself, have patience with yourself, like let this be the start
of your journey. And if you are already on your journey, this is
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a reminder to keep going because over time you're
going to find yourself getting more acclimated to the
new system that you're trying to create, right? Like your
palates are going to get more acclimated to the system you're trying to create. Um,
so last thing I want to talk about, you know, if you're not, if you're new to the podcast, I'm
talking about the struggles, but I'm gonna talk about the solutions. That's what I do
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on here. Um, so when it comes to solutions, what comes up for me
is like being mindful of how you are eating, right?
Mindful eating practices. So practice, as
you can see on the screen, practice, mindful eating can help you
develop a healthier relationship with food. This involves paying attention to
your hunger cues, right? So when you're hungry, so
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now I don't have it on my phone, but for probably six months on
my phone, I said, are you really hungry? Well, would you have some broccoli? And
I was like, no, I guess I'm not that hungry. So I'm more
mindful of, um, The stuff that I
eat, I would put peanuts, pistachios, almonds
around. My snacking started to look different. Over
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time, I don't even bring certain things into the house. If I do, I
don't bring a bulk of it. I just get one serving, because it's not
about not having any savory foods, but it's about not
doing it every day. That's the issue, is that we're doing
it more often. and then recognizing emotional triggers
for eating. So like I said, when I'm stressed out, your
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girl want a burger and chocolate cake, like give me it fast, baby.
So I know like, okay. And then, you know, it's
crazy, but after dinner, I don't know if
it's in my blood. I want something sweet every time. And
I recognize that cue. I don't have it in the house. So
then I started doing like Greek yogurt and bananas.
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Like now it's crazy. I would have never
thought I got to this place, but bananas feel like something sweet for me. Um,
it's, it's taken a while for me to get there, but I really was on
a whole, like, I need me like some cookies and some cake. So
yeah, paying attention to hunger cues and savory meals, keeping a food journal can
be helpful to identify your emotional triggers. Right. Um,
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just write it down. Get, it doesn't have to be fancy. You don't got to get no app,
you know, any kind of a thing I talk about on here. I want it
to be accessible or you could start now where there's no, income
barriers. So when you think about keeping a food journal, like
you could take the notes from the app off your phone and every
time you eat, pay attention to it and then check in with yourself. How am I
(26:36):
feeling? Right. Because sometimes, like I said, you're going to go for that
juggler and get that thing that feels like it's numbing the
pain in the moment. But at least now you're mindfully doing
it. You're you're in tune with what's going on and
you're not doing it like without realizing what's happening.
A lot of us are just eating, we're going through the motions and not realizing what's
(26:56):
happening. As you're eating, eliminate distractions
and eat slow, right? It's easy to be on our phones, watch
something and eat, right? So if you're trying to work on the
way you're eating, try not to have distractions around,
try to sit and eat. And smaller
plates are better, right? Like if you, you know, the thing is
(27:18):
like when we grow up, you know, finish your food, right?
And we feel guilty about not finishing all of
our food. Like I will wrap up my, when people don't
wrap up their leftovers at restaurants, I'm like, I want my leftovers. Even
if it's a little bite, I'm gonna take it. And so what you
can do is grab smaller plates put smaller portions on
(27:40):
there, even have a glass of water before, a glass of
water after, because a lot of times we think we're still
hungry, but we're not really that hungry. And so you'll be
surprised, the more you learn your hunger cues, the more
you learn how to manage the way that you're eating, you'll
find yourself eating slower and less, right? So
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this is important. This is a topic I wanted to talk about
because I recognize that there's so much going on around
the world, right? Unprecedented times, especially for
me as a therapist. I thought the pandemic
was the top tier of unprecedented times,
but this definitely matches anything. And we're
(28:24):
all trying to figure it out. And so if
this message speaks to you, I just want you to understand that
it's important when you learn something about the
way you're operating to be intentional about making changes
in your life. If that's something you want to do, if you're listening to this and you're like,
you know what, Celestis is really good and I want to start making changes. You
(28:47):
got Google at your fingertips, right? You got AI, like,
how can I make a plan? What can I start with? I would challenge
you to start with one meal at first. If all of your meals are not really healthy
or good, start with just breakfast or start with dinner. But
start slow and be mindful that it's going to take time, but
it's only going to happen with intention. Like I said
(29:09):
on the phone, I had a screensaver that said, are you really hungry? Would
you have broccoli? I would see it so much that It sticks with
me even just last night. I was I had what did I eat? I
can't remember Um, whatever I ate and I remember thinking like
dang. I want something else. But then I said do you want broccoli? That's how much
it stuck with me So make sure you're intentional about the process If
(29:30):
you enjoyed this episode do me a huge favor share with somebody that you
love If you're not following me on youtube or watching me on youtube go
over head on over to youtube and uh, check me out And
then what else I want to say, follow my wellness page,
STWYT. You could find it on Facebook and
Instagram. And then my podcast, social media, Celeste
(29:52):
the Therapist. You could find in my stories, I talk a
lot about me and a lot of things that are
going on. And if you enjoyed this episode, I
would love to hear what part stuck out for you. You can
email me, you can write it under my page when I promote the
episode. So thank you all so much for listening to
(30:12):
me and for rocking out. I truly appreciate it. And
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