December 24, 2024 • 45 mins
Bryan Broaddus, Derek Eagleton, Nick Harris and Ambar Garcia discuss what they would wish for from the Cowboys offseason.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
Are you ready for a break? Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Are you ready for a break?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com
with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It is Tuesday, December twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,
episode number ninety one. Welcome to the latest edition of
The Break. We are live in SWBC Mortgage Studios at
the Star and it's festive time around here. It's Christmas Eve.
Lots going on today. We have a lot of different
topics we're going to hit you. There's a little Chrismas
music there.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, I was just thinking there is a I believe
the hail was on Christmas Eve? Christmas Day? Was it
the twenty third? Gosh? Okay, I remember watching. I was
thinking it was around the holidays. It's amazing the NFL
playoffs are going on, like, yeah, Christmas December.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And now you're Super Bowl in February.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah. Now we're in the Monigral next year.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Next sure, it'll be fifty years of the hill, Mary Hill.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Mary, Yeah, you thought about Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I thought about it plenty this week. I certainly have.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Is it one of the things there's never been a
deep blue on the hill? Mary? Has it?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, we know that. We we've thought about doing some
extra content on it, but we is it? It kind
of it kind of fell apart. There was some some issues.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
R okay, web, Sorry I didn't ring it up.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, nothing bad, nothing bad. It was just like there
was just some probably ran into it. We thought we
had maybe the ball, the actual ball. It just didn't
turn out.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Oh, excuse me, it's the twenty eighth is it birthday?
There you go, that's how you remember?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's I remember. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Didn't that ball end up in the stands?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Actually?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You you I'm sorry, I mean you did. Did Drew
Pearson throw the ball in the stands?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
So whenever he whenever he said he had a dream
the night before where he caught the winning touchdown and
threw the ball out of the stadium. So when he
caught it, he was like, well, I got to throw
it out of the stadium. So we threw it out
of the stadium and with the met it was it
was open ye that we have today, and so he
threw it and it landed in the parking lot and
never never recovered as far as we know.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
But we thought we maybe had it this past summer, but.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We had a line to it, but it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Was it a Minneapolis fan?
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Long story?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I don't know what we can share, So I'm just
gonna you're done there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, there was a whole thing. The whole thing, but
we didn't realize there was such a to say. We
didn't find the ball. We thought we may have had
the ball, but it just we didn't feel comfortable that
that was the ball.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So yeah, hard to Okay, what did the ball say?
Did the ball at the time? Could you identify it
as saying exactly?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So this was it was this say this wouldn't be
a this would be would be a Pete Roselle ball.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
It would be a Pete Roselle ball, and say the duke. Yes.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
In the seventies, it had a very specific brand on
It had very specific uh typing on it. The air
hole in the ball was had a very specific spot
and then in the eighties it switched over or excuse
me in nineteen seventy six, it switched over, so they
go by ten year increments, but they go from like
seventy or sixty six to seventy five and then seventy
(03:30):
six to eighty five, and so like there was a
like that was that like one of the probably one
of the final balls that was used of like that era. Wow,
And so yeah, there was even more confusion about Okay,
is this ball this because of that or this because
of that where they may be doing some eighties test
balls in this game.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
There's there's all.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Man, it was the whole thing and actually that may
be worth a documentary and it really that process because
it is it's a lot to consider when you're trying
to identify and authenticate a ball from from a game
that happened back in the seventies. Right.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Yeah, I had a phenomenal time working for you guys
for sixteen months. I always said the best thing that
I ever worked on was the Marion Barber documentary.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I will forever remember working on that.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
The second best thing that I ever worked on, nothing
ever came of it. It was the Drew Pearson ball.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So that was that's fascinating.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Yeah, it was a fun time me and so was
just Blake. He had a lot of late nights on
the phone with that.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, and a lot of headaches on that one.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Lot of headaches with that one.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Okay, all right, let's jump in. I have some questions
we didn't get to yesterday about the offense, and I
want to take the first segment. I don't know, we're
going to see and here you go.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Second segment's see make questions we could pick off of
Brian's before he.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Gets started, got a lot of them. In the second segment,
we'll dive inside the brain and Brian brought us And
in the third segment, because it is Christmas Eve, we're
gonna do some Christmas wishes here. I would go across
the offensive, defense, coaching special teams. What do you guys
have wishes for this team? We'll do that in the
final segment, I Amber, how are you? We're just rolling along?
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Yeah, I just came in here quietly drank my coffee.
You know we should all be home right now, but
glad to be here with yo, you all sharing this
lovely morning.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
It is.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
If you guys are listening outside of the FW area,
is just raining.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
A lot right now.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Understorms.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
It's very cloudy, very dark. It looks like everyone should
be home right now.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
But it's not cold. That's the crazy part. Christmas time,
and I ran in shorts this morning. It was sixty degrees.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
I was thinking too, with it being raining as hard
as it is. I was like, if it was cold,
we'll be getting a white.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Christmas right now, yeah or not? Unfortunately not.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Instead we got summer weather. Anyway, we'll do that summer
walking packers. So let's talk about this offense. I want
to start with Ceedee Lamb. In this last game, he
had eight targets and seven receptions for one hundred and
five yards. After the game, he made it clear his shoulder,
yeah hurts like it hurts. It's messed up. What are
your thoughts just on his will to play right now
(05:50):
and whether it's a good thing. Jerry even mentioned it
this morning on his hit with one on five three
the fan. That's something they're going to keep an eye on,
and they certainly will leave it up to the player
to make the decision.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But what do you thought on that? Can I ask
you real quick question on this oneause I know you're
gonna answer this, But do you think that's affecting him
in second halves of games.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
You know, because this was happening the second half production
was happening a way.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Before the shoulder. Ok, carry on, my friend, carry on.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I uh with with cd.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
He's he's been told that he can't hurt it anymore,
so he's just.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Playing through it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Can't injure it anymore.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Correct, Yeah, it can hurt some more. Right, you're right.
Let me let me rephrase there.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Injured he is.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah, he cannot injure it further. He has the sprain
ed ac joint in the shoulder. Every time he lands
on it. You just know whenever he lands on it too,
that he's going to be slow getting up at that
big I think it was the fifty three yard reception
when he came to the ground. I mean we could
all look at each other and be like, oh, that
one hurt. You know, it did even if he didn't
have the shoulder injury. But I think I think there's
a couple of things that play here with with cd A.
(06:55):
He takes a lot of pride in the work that
he puts in, especially over the off season, and you know,
him being on his own during the offseason, he took
a lot of pride in the work that he put
in in that in that sense, he has, uh he
has goals and milestones that he wants to reach personally
and that requires him playing. And then secondly, you know
him saying in the locker room after the game, He's like,
I'm gonna continue to fight with these guys. These are
my brothers, and I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna help them
(07:17):
try to win games. So you know, that's that's that's
what he gets paid to do, and he's he's doing it,
and I, uh, my hat's off to him, honestly, because
I I I consider myself a competitor, but I don't
think I would be competing if I was in right now.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I understood it before the Cowboys were eliminated from the playoffs,
and even for him to go out and play in
that game, I'm like, Okay, sure you were preparing as
if you had to play that game. But hearing Jerry
Jones mentioned, hey, we'll live it up to the player
and let him decide however he feels however he wants
(07:53):
to handle these last two games. That's where I'm not
okay with that, and I don't know if City's sentiment
continues to be the same as this week got started,
but I would hope it has changed, because again, you're hurt,
you showed what you did, You were there doing what
you needed to do while it matter. And at this point,
(08:16):
there's absolutely no reason for him to be out there
re injuring. We saw it in one of those plays,
in one of the catch that he made, how he
landed on it and had to come out in pain.
He came back into the game, but still there's no
necessity to have him out there these last two games,
even if he wanted to. That's where I you step
in and say, hey, there's nobody someone sit down.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Do you think the front office needs to protect him?
Then I do.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
If there's no way to re injure it, like from
what Nick saying, he's been told that he can't injure it.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Further, we're humans, we have bones, and I don't I'm
not a doctor, but even if somebody is like, there's
always a way for you to re hurt something and
re injure something or make it worse. I don't. I
don't know. I don't know if it's I don't know,
but I don't want him out there, sit down.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Right, Like what you said. I think that's you know
that sometimes people need to step in and protect these guys.
And so this guy takes a lot of pride in
that jersey. He wears that number. He wears. He carries
a big and not a burden, but it carries an
aura of toughness. We were just talking about the hail Mary.
You know, brutal conditions, Grassfield coal tough, got.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Hicked by a police officer, hopeless.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, oh no, There's a lot worse things happened in
the seventies. In those games. You goes to sidelines, you're
lucky to get back on the field, and some of
the sidelines of those games they had head hunting defensive
backs and stuff like that. But it's a certain amount
of pride that he has and a certain amount it's
a badge of like courage and honor and history with it,
and I think he I think he looks at that
(09:53):
as something that is important to the legacy of where
that jersey goes. But I do agree with you, I
do agree with you. I think there's a certain time
that you have to protect the player. And even though
it is a can't hurt it anymore, you know, give
them an opportunity to just sit back and take these
(10:15):
last two weeks and try and get healed up and
then make sure that you're off season, that you go
into the off season with like, Okay, now, what's the
next step that we need to do playing football games. Yeah,
it's important to win games. It's important for Mike McCarthy
to win games. You know, it's important for this coaching step.
Mike McCarthy said something yesterday to you guys, Hey, I
don't worry about me. I worry about my assistance. You know.
(10:36):
Mike McCarthy's kind of taking care. So it's about winning games,
and these players want to go win games. And we
always laugh that. You know, here we are, we're a
little bit this way. We're signed up for seventeen weeks.
We signed up, we're working on Christmas Eve. You know,
we're signed up football season. With football season, we football.
But I think you make a really good point that
to me, I think you have to protect the players
(10:57):
sometimes and this would be one of those times to me.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
But also more so than you even possibly reinjuring. Let's
say you can get more injured. It's starting the healing process. Now,
it's allowing you, even if it's two week ahead, like,
go ahead and start that healing process, because when you
look at the roster and all the injured players, you're
gonna have a lot to deal with for next season.
(11:22):
So why not whatever extra time, even if it's a week,
a week and a half, go ahead and start that
healing process right now.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well that was I literally just wrote that down because
that was the key for me. I'm not sure. I
don't know if this is going to require any kind
of surgery, but at the most, at the very least,
it's going to require some sort of rehab and rest
all those things. The sooner you can start that, the
sooner he's available for offseason workouts. And so from that standpoint,
that's the only area. Like if it wasn't for that,
then I just kind of I do have a belief
(11:51):
that when it comes to football, it is a sport
of attrition, it is a sport of pain tolerance, and
I think sometimes you have to show yourself, sometimes you
have to show your teammates that my level of pain
tolerance is up there, like I am going to battle
through whatever it is, and that means this becomes a
(12:11):
real opportunity now because of the fact that if he's
hurt and the games don't mean anything, him going out
there and playing really hard, his teammates see that there's
a lot of credibility he earns in that room from
being out there right now, in these moments when it
doesn't matter other than him just being out there to
play football. As teammates.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think that he you know, and I think you
said that very well. I also think that he has
proven that. I don't think I ever have to worry
about him lining up and play. There's players out there
that you start to hear the whispers, you know, not
knowing the difference between injury and pain, and you know,
and that's the one so concern you, that guy right there.
(12:51):
I would never ever ever think that if if they
were battling, if they were battling the commanders, if they
were still in the hunt, there would not be a
question at eighty eight would line up and play. There's
no question about that. And I don't think anybody is
ever will ever going forward question the toughness and the
availability of ceed lamb that right there is. That thing
(13:12):
has been taken care of.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No I think that's true, and I agree with that.
I just think that sometimes in life, there you get
presented these oh no you do, you're right about show
your toughness. You'll show how much you're committed to something right,
and if you miss those opportunities, sometimes you can't get
them back.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
He signed up for seventeen weeks.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, exactly, all right, we're going to take our first break.
When we come back, we'll dive inside the brain of
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Speaker 3 (16:51):
You got all right? Derek Eagleton right off the jump
for the skilled guys, has Turpin replaced Ferguson as your
third most important offensive weapon? Because I say Lamb and
Dowdle are the two most important weapons?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Should he be yes? Should he be yes? Has he?
I don't know that they're using him enough for me
to make that claim. Now I will say this in
this last game, lining him up in the backfield. Actually
liked that and I thought it was even though it
didn't really turn out to be great plays, I thought
it was good and I think it worked with what
they were trying to do, just to give him a
different look. Like if you notice what they did was
(17:31):
because of the personnel package, they were able to get
them to really get all of their get the right
personnel on the field for dubtas and then take advantage
of on that touchdown pass because they had on the
touchdown pass, they then had who was it, I'm trying
to blank number one Tobert. They had Tolbert lined up
(17:52):
and he had a linebackground which allowed him to get
the touchdown right, So you got the matchup you want
it because of the personnel packages when you get a
receiver next receipt on the field, but you line him
up in the backfield. So I love how they're using
him in that way. I don't know, I haven't seen
enough to say they're going to do that regularly enough
for me to say he's replaced Ferguson as the third
offensive weapon.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Nick cars my points I think completely resemble Derek to
my left here, I think it's close, though, Turpin has
really started to gain an influence throughout the season, and
that goes back to training camp. I think quietly he
had one of the best training camps in Oxnard as
far as getting integrated into the offense, and then we're
starting to see that integration from then translate to now
(18:34):
and it's only helped him quite a bit. But the reason,
one more reason I think I would give too is
it would not surprise me if Jake Ferguson had a
one hundred yard two touchdown day at some point. It
would surprise me if Cavante Turpin had a one hundred
yard two touchdown day at some point.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Hamburgercia, I agree with everybody on here.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I think h ont To Turpin, I feel like he
has taken advantage of the opportunities that he was given
this season playing on the offense, but I feel like
he hasn't been enough, and he has those qualities that
can really benefit you in your offense overall because of
(19:16):
his quickness. That's one of the things with Ferguson to
me and I get it. We've had this debate, Derek,
where you he has had a decent season, but visually
and mentally from what I've seen. It hasn't been memorable,
not that the season has been memorable at all, really,
(19:36):
But as far as I just I there's more to
Jake Ferguson. I think he can do better, and we
didn't really get to see a lot of those great
plays that he has showcase in the past. But I
would say right now it's it's just it's not enough
to say that Turpin has taken over.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Got you should but he hasn't had a touch in
like six weeks.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Like I do it, they gave it.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
He's like a stunt man.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
That project is over. But he gets a lot of reps.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Get a lot of reps. Nick did brock Hoffman struggles
with Vida vea change your thoughts about him being a
full time starter at GUARD.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I don't think I ever fully considered him the full
time starter at GUARD. I think there's gonna have to
be an influx of competition there over the over the offseason,
whether that is adding a free agent or drafting a
guy in the first couple of days that can that
can compete for that spot. But yeah, he easily had
his worst day of the season against Vidave and Colijah Canci,
(20:37):
both of them Kancy had some wins against him as well,
but that's one of the better interior defensive lines in
the NFL. And if you know it's it's better to
struggle now, then if he is the starter next year,
then the struggle in Week sixteen next year.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So Ambar, did brock hoffman struggles with Vida Vea and
others change your thoughts about him being a full time
starter at guard?
Speaker 7 (21:00):
No, I don't think so. I think we are all
humans and we all have bad days. No, But I
think in the overall everything we've seen for him, I'm
still more on the positive side of things. I'm still
intrigued and I want to see more of him. I
like what I've seen so far overall, and I think
(21:21):
that the more he gets to be out there, the
better he's going to get. And that you can say
about most players around the league, but with him, I
just he has this aggressiveness that I like about him.
He has the size and the power and honestly, nothing
like even with that game, it doesn't change my mind
(21:42):
and I want to see more Derek.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yes, I don't know that it's changed for me just yet,
because even with a rough day, he's still only allowed
three pressures in half a sec. So that being said,
I'm like, I don't I don't know if I would
all of a sudden be like, oh, well, what he's
done the last few weeks don't matter. Now here's gonna
be The big test is this week when he plays Philadelphia. Yeah,
because he's following that game up with two of the
(22:07):
best defensive tackles again in the NFL. Sure, and I
want to see how he reforms there. If it's another
day where he struggles. Now, it does make me start
to rethink, mainly because Philadelphia is in your division. You
have to play them twice a year. Those guys aren't
going anywhere and if you if you're having bad days
against them, that's gonna be a problem. And so I
think the commanders too, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, So I think
(22:29):
you're gonna have some tests here where you can really
evaluate him and figure it out. And if he struggles
and those and I think, yeah, you have to really
rethink it. If he does really well this weekend and
or next weekend, then I do think there's some real
consideration for maybe that's your right guard of the future,
and and you stick with that, and you kind of
just start going into this AF season thinking if if
Zach's gonna move on, he's the guy you're gonna replace him.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Tell you what, that would give you so much flexibility.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
In the draft, no doubt, Agency, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I'm rooting for Brock. I think he has the makeup
to be that right guard of the future.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Would you rather play at center and play BB on
the other side? From what you know from the college days.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I do love BB at guard.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I was I've been I don't know if I've said
this on on this show, but I've been kind of
getting back in my draft group chats over the last
couple of weeks, and we were just kind of riffing
a few weeks ago and somebody had asked, so, why
is Cooper BB not playing guard again? It was like, Yeah,
I kind of forgot that was even a possibility. He's like,
he was just so good at guard at Kansas State.
So I think that's something you play with and you
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could figure out at camp if you really wanted to.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Brian, are you saying that you think and asking that question,
are you saying you think Brock is a better center than.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
That's what I'm trying to say. I think that maybe
you would playhim at center, and.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So it's not so much about BB, it's about Hoffman.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Maybe that Hoffman would be a better center than guard.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Because I think BB can play center or guard and
be great. I think, I really do.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
I think your better combination would probably be Hoffman at center.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And I think so too. Yeah, it just makes me
think about it, all right, Ambar, Jordan Lewis is your
defensive MVP this season?
Speaker 7 (24:03):
That's a question that's like a statement.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I'm asking a question, Jordan Lewis is your defensive MVP
this season?
Speaker 7 (24:14):
I would yes, I would say so. There are a
lot of guys that had done that have done a
really good things defensively, but he has been the most
consistent one, the healthier one, the one that has been
out there and consistently throughout the season. And what's more impressive,
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and we've talked about this in the past, is looking
at where he's at in his career and seeing how
well he's playing. I'm saying, looking at he stayed here
with the Cowboys, the years that he's gone through with
injuries and not enough playing time, survived year after year
and still here and this has been so far his
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best career in the NFL. Oh, yes, give him the trophy.
I love Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Derek, He's my honorable mention. I got to give it
to Overshown. I know Overshown's missed the games. He's only
missed the last two games.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Two games? So it is. But but I will say
that throughout the course of this season, Overshown to me,
has made the plays that that matter. He's made plays
that matter. And no, don't get me wrong. I actually tweeted,
I think of all the guys that are going to
be free agents this year, I think George Jordan Lewis
is the best of all of them if you look
at how he played this year. But I think I
think it's it's kind of overshooting a little bit to
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not acknowledge how great Overshown was for this defense this year.
I thought he played really well.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I'd make him the m v P nick, I would
go with Michael Parsons. Still, I know he missed what
was it for games?
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Yeah, by week we comeback was revolutionary to this defense.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's how important he is. It is if everybody that
was having those conversations about should they trade him or not,
I think it became very clear how important he is
to this defense, right.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
And I think if you look game by game, the
consistency that he's had all season, I think this has
been his most consistent season since he's been in the
league as far as generating pressure getting to the quarterback. Now,
how much of that is benefited by having those five
weeks off, Who knows, But I think whenever you talk
about the impact that he has had when he's been
on and off the field, I'd have to give it
to Micah, But Jordan Lewis is my close number two,
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and gosh, i'd give Overshown like a two B.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
It's all right there for me.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Like that, Derek Carl Lawson or Chauncey Golston. If you
can only afford one.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Chauncey Golston, why he's younger. I think he gives me
a little bit more and run defense as well as
past So I think I'd go with Chauncey.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
I go Chohncey Golston. I like the physical nature he brings.
He's a little bit more versatile, he can still get
to the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I would go Chauncey.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
I agree, and my reason is different. It's I see
him integrate him better with the other guys around here.
And I'm talking about chemistry and I'm talking like relationships
in the locker room. Now that there's any conflict or whatsoever,
I just see the dynamics of that being better with him.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Is Is he their best free agent offseason signing Chauncey
last year?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I would give it to Eric Hendricks, get it.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of all the free agents
they brought in Eric Kendricks. It's not a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I'm trying to think of any others.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, it's not a lot Kendricks.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
All right, all right, uh ambar, I'll give you this
one here, this is the final one. Are you worried
that opponents these next two games, which is now play
with a loaded box to take away the running game
for the Cowboys had a lot of problems playing against that.
Against the Bucks, they just put that extra dude down
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there in there and make you do something else.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
I wouldn't say worried is the right word, because at
this point I ain't worry about nothing other than other
than just making sure people stay healthy and we don't
lose any other key player. Or anybody really due to injury.
But I would say even with that, even if you
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take the running game away, I'm a little bit okay
with it because with this last two games, keep trying
through the air, keep throwing. I want to see what
you have in the passing game. And I know that
a lot of the passing game comes from the balance
that you've been able to find through the running game.
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But we saw it this past weekend against Tampa Bay.
They took out the running game for you, you were
still able to manage through the passing game. I would
rather see what that looks like with the rest of
the receivers than be so much concerned about you running
the football in these last two games.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
How about you, Nick, You're worried about them playing loaded
box against you the next two weeks.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Well, Tampa Bay told that Cowboys offense, Hey, we're gonna
have to let Cooper rush beat us, and Cooper rush
beat them. So I don't think I necessarily have any
concerns about about that. Granted, better secondary that you'll face
against the Eagles this upcoming weekend Washington, and it's probably
around the area of the Buccaneers. It depends on Lattimore's
health as well, but I think I think Dubdle can
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still get his. But if they ask Cooper rush to
to have to beat them, he's shown that he can
do that against against the talented front at least.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, I kind of agree with the sentiments there. My
first question though, is do I have CD. Yeah, because
if they go to roud of what Amber's saying and
they sit him down, now, I'm really worried because I
don't think you have the receivers to really be able
to take.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Advantageway in that way, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So but if CD's playing, yeah, absolutely, I feel like
they'll be fine if they take the running game because
with with what you have to do to take the
running game away, which is, you know, use extra resources
down there, that's gonna grace some opportunities. And I trust
after seeing this last game, that Cooper has a good
shot to be able to take advantage of that if
you're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Thank you very much, guys, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
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Speaker 2 (33:02):
Thank you, Amber. Let's get to our Christmas wishes.
Speaker 13 (33:05):
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Speaker 2 (33:05):
It is the final show for the Christmas Break. We
won't be on tomorrow, but we'll be back on Thursday,
and Amber can tell us about all the great presents
she got.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Yeah got for Diego.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah got for Diego. Not got got for Diego.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
I didn't think Christmas could get more expensive.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Was Santa really good this year? Or is he going
to be good this year? I guess the question should.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Be yes, okay, which is crazy because, uh, you know,
he has not been good behaving. My Santa threats are
gonna goes one year and on the other he's okay.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
It's like I know these guys threats, Like he's like, yeah,
don want.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
All right, let's do some Christmas wishes. I'm gonna we'll
start with the offense. I want you guys to tell
me if you had one Christmas wish for this team
going into the future, going beyond where they are right
now and into the next season, what would that Christmas
wish be? What makes the biggest difference for them?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Man, there's there's options here. I would go with a
legit wide receiver to like I'm talking like a guy
who could go for a thousand yards in a season.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
A wide receiver one to be out there with your
wide receiver exactly.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Yeah, give me a wide receiver one be basically.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
We're gone, We're got to give you a coach. We're
gonna get the coaching. We're not a coaching offense. His offense.
I'm talking off it's a personnel. Personnel off personnel that
was going to.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Be you could it's this is a really easy one
for me. It's it's health for your quarterback. That's the
easiest way. Just get let him you know, when he's
when he's he played at an m v P level,
when he was able to play all the games, you know,
and now now you have some questions about you know,
his health. Hopefully he'll come back as good as new,
but you're gonna need you know, you're gonna need him
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to be healthy for you to have legitimate shots.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
M I mean health. Yeah, that applies. And I'm thinking
of like a healthy city LAMB as well next year.
Can I just talk about one aspect or don't have
to point out a single person. You can tell an
aspect the running game and because that we've seen this
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season was a true showcase of what that looks like
when you do not have a running game, and when
your offense and when you're calling bad place, how that
you struggle in that way. So I think being able
to have a good balanced offense and starting next year
with a good running game that you can trust and
be able to rely on, it's gonna be huge.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Well can I okay? Instead of saying the play caller,
could you focus it this way? Modern offense? Like a
modern like what we what we see in some of
the these other clubs. Because Mike talks about thirty years
ago that this was, you know, he brings those things up.
But I was thinking, like, okay, well, I appreciate that
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thirty years ago. You're right, I was part of Green Bay.
We ran the similar offense that you ran. But these
things evolve, you know. I just maybe a more instead
of just a play caller, maybe a more dynamic offense.
You know, that's kind of where I would maybe focus
instead of taking a shot at Mike like I did.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well, let's talk about the defense. What will be your
wish for the defense?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Bring Mike Zimmer back, that would be my wish for
this defense.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
He had a quote yesterday that I thought was very interesting,
and I'll go ahead and throw ou my Christmas wish.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Why I'm trying to pull this up.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
I will go with a a game changing safety, just
a three or strong or does it matter either either
just a game changing safety.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I start from Georgia.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Yeah, John A Baron from I think I think he
could play at safety.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And then it says he's like our guy Brian Branch
from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, and you could. You could put him in the slot,
you can let him cover there. He can play safety.
He could do a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Asked me, he goes, if you watched Brian Branch yet,
I said, yeah, a couple of years ago. No, at Texas.
The kid that plays at Texas. I was like, oh, okay.
He brought me up to speed on the kid. Ye
a good player.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Yeah, there's there's some uh, there's there's some real comparison
to be made there.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
So uh.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Edward Er asked Mike Zimmer yesterday if he's enjoying his
NFL return, and he kind of laughed and he was like,
it's been a blast, and he's like, it's been hard.
I'm not going to lie to you. And followed up
and asked if he's enjoyed it enough to coach again,
and he said, we'll see. Let's get to the end
of the end of the year and see what happens.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
So I think it's also.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Horses he's got he's got a horse that legitimly can
run in the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
So he Yeah, we might see Zimmer up there in
Millionaire's row like like, you know, just antagonizing everybody up there.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
That's incredible. So it's a Zimmer with his horses and skin,
you know, with the show dogs.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
You know, that's the interesting thing for both for both
McCarthy and for Zimmer. Both of them have the ability
to say I don't choose to coach. I don't choose
to coach here. It's not just the simple thing of
will the Cowboys have them back? Like they both have
options as well. So that's that's what's going to make this,
I think really interesting. Is not so much to cowboys,
but do they want to be back here for another year?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Can I wish for health, for health for everybody? Well,
I'm trying to think because when we start talking about
the guys are about to become free agents free agent,
it becomes a very interesting question because then it leaves
you with a lot of different holes throughout in all
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three phases. So I would say, can I just mentioned
free agency, like free agency as a key to how
the Cowboys handle, uh, this defense, how they reinforced because
I don't think you can go into relying just on
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young talent and going into the draft and relying on
the draft. I think that the veteran presence is key
and necessary, and we've seen that with like Eric Kendricks.
He's a guy that's about to be free agent, DeMarcus Lawrence,
Jordan Lewis, Olsaudzua, and there's a list of other guys
that are about to be free agents as well, and
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that's going to change completely how your defense looks as
a whole. So I would say managing free agents the proper.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Way, more cap spaces, a Pro Bowl, one tech m
Just what do wonders for this defense? That would be incredible?
That's yeah, that's that's my new answer.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
About a corner opposite Bland that would have.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Been I think they can figure that out. Yeah, I
think they can figure that out.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I think honestly, I think that's that was that to
me has been a bigger p than anything else this
season because everyone everyone that wants to talk about, well,
this team was healthy when they were losing early in
the season, they forget Deron Plan was not here. And
I think I think if you look at all those games,
a lot of the problems started with whoever was opposite Digs.
That's where a lot of the problems started. Now, they
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had a lot of other problems as well, but I
think it started with that. And I think and I
think that's why the injuries matter all seasons, because you
lost a critical piece in Deny. In my opinion, Ron
Blands your best cornerback, and I think losing him heading
into the season, I think that mattered. I think it mattered.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Well, you have the question marks about Trevon Diggs and
de Marvin rovers shown how they're gonna come back for
next season injury wise.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
It thinks it's been two years now, I mean it's
been it seems like it's been forever since Diggs has played,
you know, played for you now, two years. I mean
you really didn't have him this year honestly.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, I'm looking at this offseason, I'm saying they might
need to draft a corner Yeah, relatively early, or at
least I.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Thought Carson maybe he can come back, can help, like
you know, like we.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Still like him. It was it was a hard walk
welcome into the NFL.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
No, it absolutely like it was like with Mozzi and Schoonmaker,
and you know, I mean you threw the word busts
on those guys. And I know that that Mozzi and
Schoonmaker are higher drafted guys. But man Carson playing at
wake Forest was a very good player and he just
did not show that he you mentioned, it was very
It was very rude awakening for it.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
They threw him out there real quick. And maybe that's it,
maybe he just needs more development time, but I know
it was. It was tough. It was really really tough,
and I hate to see that happen to him because
it may have ruined him. It may have mentally because
the cornerback is one of the positions. I think that mentally,
your your your level of confidence matters. And I hope
it doesn't affect him going into the future.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Let me ask you first round, John A Baron or
Malachi Starks a guy that could play anywhere in the
secondary and can just kind of fill a hole wherever
you need it to happen.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
You don't, Oh yeah, that's an easy one for me.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
It's easy.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
If they got a shot at Baron, I think they
be foolish not to because I think you can use
them in so many ways on this defense, and it
can help you in so many different ways on this defense.
I think that that will be the big one.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
You're potentially parachuting. Get them, might have some fun there.
We'll see draft show in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
All right, real quick, just overall, this can be anything.
This can be, this can be free agency, this can
be you know, whatever you want it to be. Just overall,
what would be your wish for this team?
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Huh? Overall wish man? Go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
No, I was sitting there thinking, listen, this is and
I don't know if this is gonna happen. If they
make a coaching change, please let it be extensive.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Please just just go just are you you say you
mean clear the whole slate?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
No, no, no, going there with the attitude is we're
not interviewing one guy.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Oh, I see what you're saying. I give you go
and interview everybody.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, go in there and go in there and figure
it out. And even if you're don't interested in some guys,
talk to and get some ideas and stuff like that,
don't don't let it happen. And over dinner, you know,
and the next thing you know, you got a coach
I mean, now, maybe that's they maybe they got a
guy in mind already. But my wish is, if you're
going to make a coaching change, please let it be
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extensive and and and and talk to all the candidates.
Speaker 7 (43:17):
I would say for me would be to please address
all the issues that you need to address. And I
know that's very widely and there's a lot to that,
and it's hard to address every single thing, but that
we're we go into training camp knowing exactly what we
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have in the sense that you address certain situation As
an example, are we gonna be sitting there and I
know Michael Parsons came out saying he's not gonna be
holding out or anything, and he's gonna be showing up
at training camp, But are we sitting there wondering and asking, Hey,
is Michaeh Parson's gonna show up here? Is it gonna be?
Speaker 16 (43:54):
Like?
Speaker 7 (43:54):
Take care of what you need to take care so
that even if the season goes to crap again, you
feel good that you really tried ahead of time to
prepare yourself the best that you could. So that would
be my wish. It's hard to accomplish all and fill
all the areas but I would say handle free agency
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how you need to address everything that you need through
through the draft, and then take care of the contract
that you need to take care of. You already did
dak CD. And the question mark now is Mika Parsonson's
what's gonna happen with him.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
I'm not gonna ask for much here from the wish.
I'm like the forty five year old man that just
needs socks, and I really just need the socks, Like, babe,
just get me the socks.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
That's all I need.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
Overshown comes back and he's one hundred percent. Honestly, the
health of this team comes back and it's one hundred
percent and it stays. That would be mine because when healthy,
this team is a competitor.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
It really is. We saw that last year, so.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
We appreciate you, guys, Jon and Goaues. We want you
guys have a merry Christmas or whatever you sell it.
A happy Yeah, I have a happy holiday season. We
will be back on Thursday and we'll start looking forward
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It is Tuesday, December twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,
episode number ninety one. Welcome to the latest edition of
The Break. We are live in SWBC Mortgage Studios at
the Star and it's festive time around here. It's Christmas Eve.
Lots going on today. We have a lot of different
topics we're going to hit you. There's a little Chrismas
music there.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, I was just thinking there is a I believe
the hail was on Christmas Eve? Christmas Day? Was it
the twenty third? Gosh? Okay, I remember watching. I was
thinking it was around the holidays. It's amazing the NFL
playoffs are going on, like, yeah, Christmas December.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And now you're Super Bowl in February.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah. Now we're in the Monigral next year.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Next sure, it'll be fifty years of the hill, Mary Hill.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Mary, Yeah, you thought about Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I thought about it plenty this week. I certainly have.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Is it one of the things there's never been a
deep blue on the hill? Mary? Has it?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, we know that. We we've thought about doing some
extra content on it, but we is it? It kind
of it kind of fell apart. There was some some issues.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
R okay, web, Sorry I didn't ring it up.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, nothing bad, nothing bad. It was just like there
was just some probably ran into it. We thought we
had maybe the ball, the actual ball. It just didn't
turn out.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Oh, excuse me, it's the twenty eighth is it birthday?
There you go, that's how you remember?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's I remember. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Didn't that ball end up in the stands?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Actually?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You you I'm sorry, I mean you did. Did Drew
Pearson throw the ball in the stands?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
So whenever he whenever he said he had a dream
the night before where he caught the winning touchdown and
threw the ball out of the stadium. So when he
caught it, he was like, well, I got to throw
it out of the stadium. So we threw it out
of the stadium and with the met it was it
was open ye that we have today, and so he
threw it and it landed in the parking lot and
never never recovered as far as we know.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
But we thought we maybe had it this past summer, but.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We had a line to it, but it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Was it a Minneapolis fan?
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Long story?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I don't know what we can share, So I'm just
gonna you're done there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, there was a whole thing. The whole thing, but
we didn't realize there was such a to say. We
didn't find the ball. We thought we may have had
the ball, but it just we didn't feel comfortable that
that was the ball.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So yeah, hard to Okay, what did the ball say?
Did the ball at the time? Could you identify it
as saying exactly?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So this was it was this say this wouldn't be
a this would be would be a Pete Roselle ball.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
It would be a Pete Roselle ball, and say the duke. Yes.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
In the seventies, it had a very specific brand on
It had very specific uh typing on it. The air
hole in the ball was had a very specific spot
and then in the eighties it switched over or excuse
me in nineteen seventy six, it switched over, so they
go by ten year increments, but they go from like
seventy or sixty six to seventy five and then seventy
(03:30):
six to eighty five, and so like there was a
like that was that like one of the probably one
of the final balls that was used of like that era. Wow,
And so yeah, there was even more confusion about Okay,
is this ball this because of that or this because
of that where they may be doing some eighties test
balls in this game.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
There's there's all.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Man, it was the whole thing and actually that may
be worth a documentary and it really that process because
it is it's a lot to consider when you're trying
to identify and authenticate a ball from from a game
that happened back in the seventies. Right.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Yeah, I had a phenomenal time working for you guys
for sixteen months. I always said the best thing that
I ever worked on was the Marion Barber documentary.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I will forever remember working on that.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
The second best thing that I ever worked on, nothing
ever came of it. It was the Drew Pearson ball.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So that was that's fascinating.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Yeah, it was a fun time me and so was
just Blake. He had a lot of late nights on
the phone with that.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, and a lot of headaches on that one.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Lot of headaches with that one.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Okay, all right, let's jump in. I have some questions
we didn't get to yesterday about the offense, and I
want to take the first segment. I don't know, we're
going to see and here you go.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Second segment's see make questions we could pick off of
Brian's before he.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Gets started, got a lot of them. In the second segment,
we'll dive inside the brain and Brian brought us And
in the third segment, because it is Christmas Eve, we're
gonna do some Christmas wishes here. I would go across
the offensive, defense, coaching special teams. What do you guys
have wishes for this team? We'll do that in the
final segment, I Amber, how are you? We're just rolling along?
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Yeah, I just came in here quietly drank my coffee.
You know we should all be home right now, but
glad to be here with yo, you all sharing this
lovely morning.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
It is.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
If you guys are listening outside of the FW area,
is just raining.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
A lot right now.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Understorms.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
It's very cloudy, very dark. It looks like everyone should
be home right now.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
But it's not cold. That's the crazy part. Christmas time,
and I ran in shorts this morning. It was sixty degrees.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
I was thinking too, with it being raining as hard
as it is. I was like, if it was cold,
we'll be getting a white.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Christmas right now, yeah or not? Unfortunately not.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Instead we got summer weather. Anyway, we'll do that summer
walking packers. So let's talk about this offense. I want
to start with Ceedee Lamb. In this last game, he
had eight targets and seven receptions for one hundred and
five yards. After the game, he made it clear his shoulder,
yeah hurts like it hurts. It's messed up. What are
your thoughts just on his will to play right now
(05:50):
and whether it's a good thing. Jerry even mentioned it
this morning on his hit with one on five three
the fan. That's something they're going to keep an eye on,
and they certainly will leave it up to the player
to make the decision.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But what do you thought on that? Can I ask
you real quick question on this oneause I know you're
gonna answer this, But do you think that's affecting him
in second halves of games.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
You know, because this was happening the second half production
was happening a way.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Before the shoulder. Ok, carry on, my friend, carry on.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I uh with with cd.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
He's he's been told that he can't hurt it anymore,
so he's just.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Playing through it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Can't injure it anymore.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Correct, Yeah, it can hurt some more. Right, you're right.
Let me let me rephrase there.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Injured he is.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah, he cannot injure it further. He has the sprain
ed ac joint in the shoulder. Every time he lands
on it. You just know whenever he lands on it too,
that he's going to be slow getting up at that
big I think it was the fifty three yard reception
when he came to the ground. I mean we could
all look at each other and be like, oh, that
one hurt. You know, it did even if he didn't
have the shoulder injury. But I think I think there's
a couple of things that play here with with cd A.
(06:55):
He takes a lot of pride in the work that
he puts in, especially over the off season, and you know,
him being on his own during the offseason, he took
a lot of pride in the work that he put
in in that in that sense, he has, uh he
has goals and milestones that he wants to reach personally
and that requires him playing. And then secondly, you know
him saying in the locker room after the game, He's like,
I'm gonna continue to fight with these guys. These are
my brothers, and I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna help them
(07:17):
try to win games. So you know, that's that's that's
what he gets paid to do, and he's he's doing it,
and I, uh, my hat's off to him, honestly, because
I I I consider myself a competitor, but I don't
think I would be competing if I was in right now.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I understood it before the Cowboys were eliminated from the playoffs,
and even for him to go out and play in
that game, I'm like, Okay, sure you were preparing as
if you had to play that game. But hearing Jerry
Jones mentioned, hey, we'll live it up to the player
and let him decide however he feels however he wants
(07:53):
to handle these last two games. That's where I'm not
okay with that, and I don't know if City's sentiment
continues to be the same as this week got started,
but I would hope it has changed, because again, you're hurt,
you showed what you did, You were there doing what
you needed to do while it matter. And at this point,
(08:16):
there's absolutely no reason for him to be out there
re injuring. We saw it in one of those plays,
in one of the catch that he made, how he
landed on it and had to come out in pain.
He came back into the game, but still there's no
necessity to have him out there these last two games,
even if he wanted to. That's where I you step
in and say, hey, there's nobody someone sit down.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Do you think the front office needs to protect him?
Then I do.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
If there's no way to re injure it, like from
what Nick saying, he's been told that he can't injure it.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Further, we're humans, we have bones, and I don't I'm
not a doctor, but even if somebody is like, there's
always a way for you to re hurt something and
re injure something or make it worse. I don't. I
don't know. I don't know if it's I don't know,
but I don't want him out there, sit down.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Right, Like what you said. I think that's you know
that sometimes people need to step in and protect these guys.
And so this guy takes a lot of pride in
that jersey. He wears that number. He wears. He carries
a big and not a burden, but it carries an
aura of toughness. We were just talking about the hail Mary.
You know, brutal conditions, Grassfield coal tough, got.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Hicked by a police officer, hopeless.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, oh no, There's a lot worse things happened in
the seventies. In those games. You goes to sidelines, you're
lucky to get back on the field, and some of
the sidelines of those games they had head hunting defensive
backs and stuff like that. But it's a certain amount
of pride that he has and a certain amount it's
a badge of like courage and honor and history with it,
and I think he I think he looks at that
(09:53):
as something that is important to the legacy of where
that jersey goes. But I do agree with you, I
do agree with you. I think there's a certain time
that you have to protect the player. And even though
it is a can't hurt it anymore, you know, give
them an opportunity to just sit back and take these
(10:15):
last two weeks and try and get healed up and
then make sure that you're off season, that you go
into the off season with like, Okay, now, what's the
next step that we need to do playing football games. Yeah,
it's important to win games. It's important for Mike McCarthy
to win games. You know, it's important for this coaching step.
Mike McCarthy said something yesterday to you guys, Hey, I
don't worry about me. I worry about my assistance. You know.
(10:36):
Mike McCarthy's kind of taking care. So it's about winning games,
and these players want to go win games. And we
always laugh that. You know, here we are, we're a
little bit this way. We're signed up for seventeen weeks.
We signed up, we're working on Christmas Eve. You know,
we're signed up football season. With football season, we football.
But I think you make a really good point that
to me, I think you have to protect the players
(10:57):
sometimes and this would be one of those times to me.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
But also more so than you even possibly reinjuring. Let's
say you can get more injured. It's starting the healing process. Now,
it's allowing you, even if it's two week ahead, like,
go ahead and start that healing process, because when you
look at the roster and all the injured players, you're
gonna have a lot to deal with for next season.
(11:22):
So why not whatever extra time, even if it's a week,
a week and a half, go ahead and start that
healing process right now.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well that was I literally just wrote that down because
that was the key for me. I'm not sure. I
don't know if this is going to require any kind
of surgery, but at the most, at the very least,
it's going to require some sort of rehab and rest
all those things. The sooner you can start that, the
sooner he's available for offseason workouts. And so from that standpoint,
that's the only area. Like if it wasn't for that,
then I just kind of I do have a belief
(11:51):
that when it comes to football, it is a sport
of attrition, it is a sport of pain tolerance, and
I think sometimes you have to show yourself, sometimes you
have to show your teammates that my level of pain
tolerance is up there, like I am going to battle
through whatever it is, and that means this becomes a
(12:11):
real opportunity now because of the fact that if he's
hurt and the games don't mean anything, him going out
there and playing really hard, his teammates see that there's
a lot of credibility he earns in that room from
being out there right now, in these moments when it
doesn't matter other than him just being out there to
play football. As teammates.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think that he you know, and I think you
said that very well. I also think that he has
proven that. I don't think I ever have to worry
about him lining up and play. There's players out there
that you start to hear the whispers, you know, not
knowing the difference between injury and pain, and you know,
and that's the one so concern you, that guy right there.
(12:51):
I would never ever ever think that if if they
were battling, if they were battling the commanders, if they
were still in the hunt, there would not be a
question at eighty eight would line up and play. There's
no question about that. And I don't think anybody is
ever will ever going forward question the toughness and the
availability of ceed lamb that right there is. That thing
(13:12):
has been taken care of.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No I think that's true, and I agree with that.
I just think that sometimes in life, there you get
presented these oh no you do, you're right about show
your toughness. You'll show how much you're committed to something right,
and if you miss those opportunities, sometimes you can't get
them back.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
He signed up for seventeen weeks.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, exactly, all right, we're going to take our first break.
When we come back, we'll dive inside the brain of
Brian brought us and then if if he leaves some
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Speaker 2 (16:33):
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Speaker 3 (16:51):
You got all right? Derek Eagleton right off the jump
for the skilled guys, has Turpin replaced Ferguson as your
third most important offensive weapon? Because I say Lamb and
Dowdle are the two most important weapons?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Should he be yes? Should he be yes? Has he?
I don't know that they're using him enough for me
to make that claim. Now I will say this in
this last game, lining him up in the backfield. Actually
liked that and I thought it was even though it
didn't really turn out to be great plays, I thought
it was good and I think it worked with what
they were trying to do, just to give him a
different look. Like if you notice what they did was
(17:31):
because of the personnel package, they were able to get
them to really get all of their get the right
personnel on the field for dubtas and then take advantage
of on that touchdown pass because they had on the
touchdown pass, they then had who was it, I'm trying
to blank number one Tobert. They had Tolbert lined up
(17:52):
and he had a linebackground which allowed him to get
the touchdown right, So you got the matchup you want
it because of the personnel packages when you get a
receiver next receipt on the field, but you line him
up in the backfield. So I love how they're using
him in that way. I don't know, I haven't seen
enough to say they're going to do that regularly enough
for me to say he's replaced Ferguson as the third
offensive weapon.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Nick cars my points I think completely resemble Derek to
my left here, I think it's close, though, Turpin has
really started to gain an influence throughout the season, and
that goes back to training camp. I think quietly he
had one of the best training camps in Oxnard as
far as getting integrated into the offense, and then we're
starting to see that integration from then translate to now
(18:34):
and it's only helped him quite a bit. But the reason,
one more reason I think I would give too is
it would not surprise me if Jake Ferguson had a
one hundred yard two touchdown day at some point. It
would surprise me if Cavante Turpin had a one hundred
yard two touchdown day at some point.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Hamburgercia, I agree with everybody on here.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I think h ont To Turpin, I feel like he
has taken advantage of the opportunities that he was given
this season playing on the offense, but I feel like
he hasn't been enough, and he has those qualities that
can really benefit you in your offense overall because of
(19:16):
his quickness. That's one of the things with Ferguson to
me and I get it. We've had this debate, Derek,
where you he has had a decent season, but visually
and mentally from what I've seen. It hasn't been memorable,
not that the season has been memorable at all, really,
(19:36):
But as far as I just I there's more to
Jake Ferguson. I think he can do better, and we
didn't really get to see a lot of those great
plays that he has showcase in the past. But I
would say right now it's it's just it's not enough
to say that Turpin has taken over.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Got you should but he hasn't had a touch in
like six weeks.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Like I do it, they gave it.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
He's like a stunt man.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
That project is over. But he gets a lot of reps.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Get a lot of reps. Nick did brock Hoffman struggles
with Vida vea change your thoughts about him being a
full time starter at GUARD.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I don't think I ever fully considered him the full
time starter at GUARD. I think there's gonna have to
be an influx of competition there over the over the offseason,
whether that is adding a free agent or drafting a
guy in the first couple of days that can that
can compete for that spot. But yeah, he easily had
his worst day of the season against Vidave and Colijah Canci,
(20:37):
both of them Kancy had some wins against him as well,
but that's one of the better interior defensive lines in
the NFL. And if you know it's it's better to
struggle now, then if he is the starter next year,
then the struggle in Week sixteen next year.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So Ambar, did brock hoffman struggles with Vida Vea and
others change your thoughts about him being a full time
starter at guard?
Speaker 7 (21:00):
No, I don't think so. I think we are all
humans and we all have bad days. No, But I
think in the overall everything we've seen for him, I'm
still more on the positive side of things. I'm still
intrigued and I want to see more of him. I
like what I've seen so far overall, and I think
(21:21):
that the more he gets to be out there, the
better he's going to get. And that you can say
about most players around the league, but with him, I
just he has this aggressiveness that I like about him.
He has the size and the power and honestly, nothing
like even with that game, it doesn't change my mind
(21:42):
and I want to see more Derek.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yes, I don't know that it's changed for me just yet,
because even with a rough day, he's still only allowed
three pressures in half a sec. So that being said,
I'm like, I don't I don't know if I would
all of a sudden be like, oh, well, what he's
done the last few weeks don't matter. Now here's gonna
be The big test is this week when he plays Philadelphia. Yeah,
because he's following that game up with two of the
(22:07):
best defensive tackles again in the NFL. Sure, and I
want to see how he reforms there. If it's another
day where he struggles. Now, it does make me start
to rethink, mainly because Philadelphia is in your division. You
have to play them twice a year. Those guys aren't
going anywhere and if you if you're having bad days
against them, that's gonna be a problem. And so I
think the commanders too, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, So I think
(22:29):
you're gonna have some tests here where you can really
evaluate him and figure it out. And if he struggles
and those and I think, yeah, you have to really
rethink it. If he does really well this weekend and
or next weekend, then I do think there's some real
consideration for maybe that's your right guard of the future,
and and you stick with that, and you kind of
just start going into this AF season thinking if if
Zach's gonna move on, he's the guy you're gonna replace him.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Tell you what, that would give you so much flexibility.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
In the draft, no doubt, Agency, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I'm rooting for Brock. I think he has the makeup
to be that right guard of the future.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Would you rather play at center and play BB on
the other side? From what you know from the college days.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I do love BB at guard.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I was I've been I don't know if I've said
this on on this show, but I've been kind of
getting back in my draft group chats over the last
couple of weeks, and we were just kind of riffing
a few weeks ago and somebody had asked, so, why
is Cooper BB not playing guard again? It was like, Yeah,
I kind of forgot that was even a possibility. He's like,
he was just so good at guard at Kansas State.
So I think that's something you play with and you
(23:28):
could figure out at camp if you really wanted to.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Brian, are you saying that you think and asking that question,
are you saying you think Brock is a better center than.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
That's what I'm trying to say. I think that maybe
you would playhim at center, and.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So it's not so much about BB, it's about Hoffman.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Maybe that Hoffman would be a better center than guard.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Because I think BB can play center or guard and
be great. I think, I really do.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
I think your better combination would probably be Hoffman at center.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And I think so too. Yeah, it just makes me
think about it, all right, Ambar, Jordan Lewis is your
defensive MVP this season?
Speaker 7 (24:03):
That's a question that's like a statement.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I'm asking a question, Jordan Lewis is your defensive MVP
this season?
Speaker 7 (24:14):
I would yes, I would say so. There are a
lot of guys that had done that have done a
really good things defensively, but he has been the most
consistent one, the healthier one, the one that has been
out there and consistently throughout the season. And what's more impressive,
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and we've talked about this in the past, is looking
at where he's at in his career and seeing how
well he's playing. I'm saying, looking at he stayed here
with the Cowboys, the years that he's gone through with
injuries and not enough playing time, survived year after year
and still here and this has been so far his
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best career in the NFL. Oh, yes, give him the trophy.
I love Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Derek, He's my honorable mention. I got to give it
to Overshown. I know Overshown's missed the games. He's only
missed the last two games.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Two games? So it is. But but I will say
that throughout the course of this season, Overshown to me,
has made the plays that that matter. He's made plays
that matter. And no, don't get me wrong. I actually tweeted,
I think of all the guys that are going to
be free agents this year, I think George Jordan Lewis
is the best of all of them if you look
at how he played this year. But I think I
think it's it's kind of overshooting a little bit to
(25:34):
not acknowledge how great Overshown was for this defense this year.
I thought he played really well.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I'd make him the m v P nick, I would
go with Michael Parsons. Still, I know he missed what
was it for games?
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Yeah, by week we comeback was revolutionary to this defense.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's how important he is. It is if everybody that
was having those conversations about should they trade him or not,
I think it became very clear how important he is
to this defense, right.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
And I think if you look game by game, the
consistency that he's had all season, I think this has
been his most consistent season since he's been in the
league as far as generating pressure getting to the quarterback. Now,
how much of that is benefited by having those five
weeks off, Who knows, But I think whenever you talk
about the impact that he has had when he's been
on and off the field, I'd have to give it
to Micah, But Jordan Lewis is my close number two,
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and gosh, i'd give Overshown like a two B.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
It's all right there for me.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Like that, Derek Carl Lawson or Chauncey Golston. If you
can only afford one.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Chauncey Golston, why he's younger. I think he gives me
a little bit more and run defense as well as
past So I think I'd go with Chauncey.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
I go Chohncey Golston. I like the physical nature he brings.
He's a little bit more versatile, he can still get
to the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I would go Chauncey.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
I agree, and my reason is different. It's I see
him integrate him better with the other guys around here.
And I'm talking about chemistry and I'm talking like relationships
in the locker room. Now that there's any conflict or whatsoever,
I just see the dynamics of that being better with him.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Is Is he their best free agent offseason signing Chauncey
last year?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I would give it to Eric Hendricks, get it.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of all the free agents
they brought in Eric Kendricks. It's not a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I'm trying to think of any others.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, it's not a lot Kendricks.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
All right, all right, uh ambar, I'll give you this
one here, this is the final one. Are you worried
that opponents these next two games, which is now play
with a loaded box to take away the running game
for the Cowboys had a lot of problems playing against that.
Against the Bucks, they just put that extra dude down
(27:57):
there in there and make you do something else.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
I wouldn't say worried is the right word, because at
this point I ain't worry about nothing other than other
than just making sure people stay healthy and we don't
lose any other key player. Or anybody really due to injury.
But I would say even with that, even if you
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take the running game away, I'm a little bit okay
with it because with this last two games, keep trying
through the air, keep throwing. I want to see what
you have in the passing game. And I know that
a lot of the passing game comes from the balance
that you've been able to find through the running game.
(28:42):
But we saw it this past weekend against Tampa Bay.
They took out the running game for you, you were
still able to manage through the passing game. I would
rather see what that looks like with the rest of
the receivers than be so much concerned about you running
the football in these last two games.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
How about you, Nick, You're worried about them playing loaded
box against you the next two weeks.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Well, Tampa Bay told that Cowboys offense, Hey, we're gonna
have to let Cooper rush beat us, and Cooper rush
beat them. So I don't think I necessarily have any
concerns about about that. Granted, better secondary that you'll face
against the Eagles this upcoming weekend Washington, and it's probably
around the area of the Buccaneers. It depends on Lattimore's
health as well, but I think I think Dubdle can
(29:28):
still get his. But if they ask Cooper rush to
to have to beat them, he's shown that he can
do that against against the talented front at least.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, I kind of agree with the sentiments there. My
first question though, is do I have CD. Yeah, because
if they go to roud of what Amber's saying and
they sit him down, now, I'm really worried because I
don't think you have the receivers to really be able
to take.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Advantageway in that way, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So but if CD's playing, yeah, absolutely, I feel like
they'll be fine if they take the running game because
with with what you have to do to take the
running game away, which is, you know, use extra resources
down there, that's gonna grace some opportunities. And I trust
after seeing this last game, that Cooper has a good
shot to be able to take advantage of that if
you're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Thank you very much, guys, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
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Speaker 7 (33:00):
Ay tn T Connecting changes everything.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Thank you, Amber. Let's get to our Christmas wishes.
Speaker 13 (33:05):
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Speaker 2 (33:05):
It is the final show for the Christmas Break. We
won't be on tomorrow, but we'll be back on Thursday,
and Amber can tell us about all the great presents
she got.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Yeah got for Diego.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah got for Diego. Not got got for Diego.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
I didn't think Christmas could get more expensive.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Was Santa really good this year? Or is he going
to be good this year? I guess the question should.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Be yes, okay, which is crazy because, uh, you know,
he has not been good behaving. My Santa threats are
gonna goes one year and on the other he's okay.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
It's like I know these guys threats, Like he's like, yeah,
don want.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
All right, let's do some Christmas wishes. I'm gonna we'll
start with the offense. I want you guys to tell
me if you had one Christmas wish for this team
going into the future, going beyond where they are right
now and into the next season, what would that Christmas
wish be? What makes the biggest difference for them?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Man, there's there's options here. I would go with a
legit wide receiver to like I'm talking like a guy
who could go for a thousand yards in a season.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
A wide receiver one to be out there with your
wide receiver exactly.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Yeah, give me a wide receiver one be basically.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
We're gone, We're got to give you a coach. We're
gonna get the coaching. We're not a coaching offense. His offense.
I'm talking off it's a personnel. Personnel off personnel that
was going to.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Be you could it's this is a really easy one
for me. It's it's health for your quarterback. That's the
easiest way. Just get let him you know, when he's
when he's he played at an m v P level,
when he was able to play all the games, you know,
and now now you have some questions about you know,
his health. Hopefully he'll come back as good as new,
but you're gonna need you know, you're gonna need him
(34:59):
to be healthy for you to have legitimate shots.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
M I mean health. Yeah, that applies. And I'm thinking
of like a healthy city LAMB as well next year.
Can I just talk about one aspect or don't have
to point out a single person. You can tell an
aspect the running game and because that we've seen this
(35:27):
season was a true showcase of what that looks like
when you do not have a running game, and when
your offense and when you're calling bad place, how that
you struggle in that way. So I think being able
to have a good balanced offense and starting next year
with a good running game that you can trust and
be able to rely on, it's gonna be huge.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Well can I okay? Instead of saying the play caller,
could you focus it this way? Modern offense? Like a
modern like what we what we see in some of
the these other clubs. Because Mike talks about thirty years
ago that this was, you know, he brings those things up.
But I was thinking, like, okay, well, I appreciate that
(36:10):
thirty years ago. You're right, I was part of Green Bay.
We ran the similar offense that you ran. But these
things evolve, you know. I just maybe a more instead
of just a play caller, maybe a more dynamic offense.
You know, that's kind of where I would maybe focus
instead of taking a shot at Mike like I did.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well, let's talk about the defense. What will be your
wish for the defense?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Bring Mike Zimmer back, that would be my wish for
this defense.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
He had a quote yesterday that I thought was very interesting,
and I'll go ahead and throw ou my Christmas wish.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Why I'm trying to pull this up.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
I will go with a a game changing safety, just
a three or strong or does it matter either either
just a game changing safety.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I start from Georgia.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Yeah, John A Baron from I think I think he
could play at safety.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And then it says he's like our guy Brian Branch
from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, and you could. You could put him in the slot,
you can let him cover there. He can play safety.
He could do a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Asked me, he goes, if you watched Brian Branch yet,
I said, yeah, a couple of years ago. No, at Texas.
The kid that plays at Texas. I was like, oh, okay.
He brought me up to speed on the kid. Ye
a good player.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Yeah, there's there's some uh, there's there's some real comparison
to be made there.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
So uh.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Edward Er asked Mike Zimmer yesterday if he's enjoying his
NFL return, and he kind of laughed and he was like,
it's been a blast, and he's like, it's been hard.
I'm not going to lie to you. And followed up
and asked if he's enjoyed it enough to coach again,
and he said, we'll see. Let's get to the end
of the end of the year and see what happens.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
So I think it's also.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Horses he's got he's got a horse that legitimly can
run in the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
So he Yeah, we might see Zimmer up there in
Millionaire's row like like, you know, just antagonizing everybody up there.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
That's incredible. So it's a Zimmer with his horses and skin,
you know, with the show dogs.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
You know, that's the interesting thing for both for both
McCarthy and for Zimmer. Both of them have the ability
to say I don't choose to coach. I don't choose
to coach here. It's not just the simple thing of
will the Cowboys have them back? Like they both have
options as well. So that's that's what's going to make this,
I think really interesting. Is not so much to cowboys,
but do they want to be back here for another year?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Can I wish for health, for health for everybody? Well,
I'm trying to think because when we start talking about
the guys are about to become free agents free agent,
it becomes a very interesting question because then it leaves
you with a lot of different holes throughout in all
(38:49):
three phases. So I would say, can I just mentioned
free agency, like free agency as a key to how
the Cowboys handle, uh, this defense, how they reinforced because
I don't think you can go into relying just on
(39:10):
young talent and going into the draft and relying on
the draft. I think that the veteran presence is key
and necessary, and we've seen that with like Eric Kendricks.
He's a guy that's about to be free agent, DeMarcus Lawrence,
Jordan Lewis, Olsaudzua, and there's a list of other guys
that are about to be free agents as well, and
(39:30):
that's going to change completely how your defense looks as
a whole. So I would say managing free agents the proper.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Way, more cap spaces, a Pro Bowl, one tech m
Just what do wonders for this defense? That would be incredible?
That's yeah, that's that's my new answer.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
About a corner opposite Bland that would have.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Been I think they can figure that out. Yeah, I
think they can figure that out.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I think honestly, I think that's that was that to
me has been a bigger p than anything else this
season because everyone everyone that wants to talk about, well,
this team was healthy when they were losing early in
the season, they forget Deron Plan was not here. And
I think I think if you look at all those games,
a lot of the problems started with whoever was opposite Digs.
That's where a lot of the problems started. Now, they
(40:16):
had a lot of other problems as well, but I
think it started with that. And I think and I
think that's why the injuries matter all seasons, because you
lost a critical piece in Deny. In my opinion, Ron
Blands your best cornerback, and I think losing him heading
into the season, I think that mattered. I think it mattered.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Well, you have the question marks about Trevon Diggs and
de Marvin rovers shown how they're gonna come back for
next season injury wise.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
It thinks it's been two years now, I mean it's
been it seems like it's been forever since Diggs has played,
you know, played for you now, two years. I mean
you really didn't have him this year honestly.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, I'm looking at this offseason, I'm saying they might
need to draft a corner Yeah, relatively early, or at
least I.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Thought Carson maybe he can come back, can help, like
you know, like we.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Still like him. It was it was a hard walk
welcome into the NFL.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
No, it absolutely like it was like with Mozzi and Schoonmaker,
and you know, I mean you threw the word busts
on those guys. And I know that that Mozzi and
Schoonmaker are higher drafted guys. But man Carson playing at
wake Forest was a very good player and he just
did not show that he you mentioned, it was very
It was very rude awakening for it.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
They threw him out there real quick. And maybe that's it,
maybe he just needs more development time, but I know
it was. It was tough. It was really really tough,
and I hate to see that happen to him because
it may have ruined him. It may have mentally because
the cornerback is one of the positions. I think that mentally,
your your your level of confidence matters. And I hope
it doesn't affect him going into the future.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Let me ask you first round, John A Baron or
Malachi Starks a guy that could play anywhere in the
secondary and can just kind of fill a hole wherever
you need it to happen.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
You don't, Oh yeah, that's an easy one for me.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
It's easy.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
If they got a shot at Baron, I think they
be foolish not to because I think you can use
them in so many ways on this defense, and it
can help you in so many different ways on this defense.
I think that that will be the big one.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
You're potentially parachuting. Get them, might have some fun there.
We'll see draft show in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
All right, real quick, just overall, this can be anything.
This can be, this can be free agency, this can
be you know, whatever you want it to be. Just overall,
what would be your wish for this team?
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Huh? Overall wish man? Go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
No, I was sitting there thinking, listen, this is and
I don't know if this is gonna happen. If they
make a coaching change, please let it be extensive.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Please just just go just are you you say you
mean clear the whole slate?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
No, no, no, going there with the attitude is we're
not interviewing one guy.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Oh, I see what you're saying. I give you go
and interview everybody.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, go in there and go in there and figure
it out. And even if you're don't interested in some guys,
talk to and get some ideas and stuff like that,
don't don't let it happen. And over dinner, you know,
and the next thing you know, you got a coach
I mean, now, maybe that's they maybe they got a
guy in mind already. But my wish is, if you're
going to make a coaching change, please let it be
(43:12):
extensive and and and and talk to all the candidates.
Speaker 7 (43:17):
I would say for me would be to please address
all the issues that you need to address. And I
know that's very widely and there's a lot to that,
and it's hard to address every single thing, but that
we're we go into training camp knowing exactly what we
(43:37):
have in the sense that you address certain situation As
an example, are we gonna be sitting there and I
know Michael Parsons came out saying he's not gonna be
holding out or anything, and he's gonna be showing up
at training camp, But are we sitting there wondering and asking, Hey,
is Michaeh Parson's gonna show up here? Is it gonna be?
Speaker 16 (43:54):
Like?
Speaker 7 (43:54):
Take care of what you need to take care so
that even if the season goes to crap again, you
feel good that you really tried ahead of time to
prepare yourself the best that you could. So that would
be my wish. It's hard to accomplish all and fill
all the areas but I would say handle free agency
(44:14):
how you need to address everything that you need through
through the draft, and then take care of the contract
that you need to take care of. You already did
dak CD. And the question mark now is Mika Parsonson's
what's gonna happen with him.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
I'm not gonna ask for much here from the wish.
I'm like the forty five year old man that just
needs socks, and I really just need the socks, Like, babe,
just get me the socks.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
That's all I need.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
Overshown comes back and he's one hundred percent. Honestly, the
health of this team comes back and it's one hundred
percent and it stays. That would be mine because when healthy,
this team is a competitor.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
It really is. We saw that last year, so.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
We appreciate you, guys, Jon and Goaues. We want you
guys have a merry Christmas or whatever you sell it.
A happy Yeah, I have a happy holiday season. We
will be back on Thursday and we'll start looking forward
Cowboys versus Eagles till they in for Nick Harris. Brian
brought us an Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Ealts and this
has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
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