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August 5, 2020 77 mins

So often we hear about safe space—the promise of a judgement and harm-free environment. But is that even possible?

Micky Scottbey Jones is calling us to a different practice—one where we can bravely risk mistakes, call each other to more truth and love, and co-create a space where we each have room to grow as activists while still being accountable to one another.

In our conversation, she talks about how, if we want to work towards the abolition of systems of harm and oppression, we actually need to practice that with one another.

Micky embodies what it is to walk the talk and live into her values; it is an invitation for all of us to hold the complexity of this work and be brave together.

You can find Micky at faithmattersnetwork.org

Follow her on Instagram @electric_lady_msj, Twitter @iammickyjones, and Facebook @MSJspeaks.

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