October 27, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode of the Doc & Jacques radio variety show, Roger and Jenny Mitchell discuss the critical role of the Chetco Activity Center, highlighting its Meals on Wheels program, community services, and urgent need for volunteers and donations, including their own matching pledge to support the center. Then filmmaker Robert Mann shares his journey […]
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Welcome.
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Thank you for turning into this week's fantastic
program. I'm doctor Gigi, and my co host
is, as always, Jacques Kepner. How are you
today? I'm doing fine. You said turning or
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and Jacques Radio Variety Show. Special thanks to
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back, Ray, from your time. Michael Gorsh, you're
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others. Thank you for tuning in. You're hearing
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the same syndicated show will be rebroadcast in
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Arcadia area. And then a few hours later
at 1PM on my old alma mater, KFUG
one zero one in Crescent City, California. So
now you know that doc and I have
your coast covered.
Alright, doctor. Right. What medical marvels and good
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medicine and health notes does my German
medical doctor patent holding scientist and university professor
I'm building you up. Yeah. Thank you. What
do you have for us for this week,
health segment of MDGG?
Well, thank you for building me up. I
need that. K. We're gonna be talking about
asthma.
That's it.
I'm wondering. That's not I'm not joking about
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it. No. Go ahead. What is asthma? It
affects a lot of people. Right. Asthma is
a common chronic disease worldwide and affects approximately
twenty five million
or one in twelve people in The United
States. Mhmm. It is the most common chronic
disease in childhood.
Wow. It affects about six million
US children
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each year.
Listen to this. Asthma leads to ninety four
thousand hospital stays. Just round off to a
hundred.
Over nine hundred thousand emergency visits Right. You
on a run? A million. Yeah.
And cause over three thousand five hundred death.
Oh, boy. With older adults at the highest
risk. Wow. Folks, I wake up doctor Gigi
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every night at exactly 12:59AM.
That's when we have our one to one
doc.
See, I gotta get her going. Once you
get her laughing, then you're set. Okay. Keep
telling us about asthma, doc.
During an asthma attack, the airway muscles, especially
around the bronchitis
and bronchioli,
tighten,
and the lining swell. That's what gives you
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the sound. Mhmm. The swelling of the lining
can be caused by an allergen, whatever you're
allergic
to, by exercise,
or by cold air and more.
This in turn causes then the muscles that
surround those airways to constrict,
get tighter. K. Both of these events,
narrow the airways, making it difficult for the
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air to move in and out of the
lungs,
leading to wheezing,
coughing,
and shortness of breath. Yeah. What do you
call a radio disc jockey? Disc jockey. Who
has stopped breathing, doctor? What do you call
them? Off the air.
Asthma Has no cure. Asthma has no cure.
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Asthma has no cure. Amazing. I thought they
cured it. You got those things people spray
those things in their mouths. Yeah. But you
did not go to medical school, so you
didn't know. I can't say. Pardon me.
But it can be
managed with medication
or and lifestyle strategies. I like that. Lifestyle
strategies.
Treatments focus on the real on relieving those
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symptoms and preventing attacks. So there are two
main types of treatment.
The rescue inhaler that basically everybody knows about.
Alright. The rescue inhaler like albuterol
relaxes
the tight muscles around the wind the the
pipes, the air pipes. K. And they're called
one of the they're called albuterol.
They basically, that's the only one there is.
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Now okay. Let's get a little bit technical.
Albuterol
is a beta two
agonist
that relaxes
the,
muscles surrounding there, but it also actually activates
the beta one, which gives,
I'm giving it away already, which makes your
heart go faster. Oh. So that one is
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the first one. And then the other one,
the ipratropium,
is in so called anticholinergic,
and they both are there to relax the
muscles.
Wow.
Well, I bought a little bag of air
today, doctor.
I thought it was so nice of the
company that produced it. They also included a
few potato chips inside of it.
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That's a good idea.
Okay. What else does it Okay. So they're
also long term control medicines.
That means you only take them once and
they're not rescue medicines or rescue things. So
there include the steroid inhalers and they,
function as getting the,
inflammation down because that's part of the asthma
deal.
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Little kids who don't know or don't fathom
how to do the inhalers
actually get something called montelukast.
Is that a pill? Brand name Singulair.
Yeah. That's a pill, and it helps. Wow.
And for more severe cases, there are biologics
such as omalizumab
or dublimab.
Dermab means monoclonal antibody,
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and there are injectables usually.
Wow. Okay. So now we know a little
bit more about asthma. Mhmm. You know, I
went to the library to get a medical
book on abdominal pain. Yeah. But somebody had
ripped the appendix out.
Alright. All puns aside, thank you for that
enlightening MDGG
regarding asthma, doctor.
Alright.
Okay. As promised, we have a great show
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today.
A triple header is coming your way with
three unique and talented folks who excel at
what they do best. Our first two guests
make up a team that serves our locally
local,
lovely
region in a special way.
Need I remind you, if you don't already
know that you, yes, you, dear listener, is
getting older. Not me. You are aging just
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like those green grapes that have been sitting
in your refrigerator for two weeks or the
sourdough bread growing stale and showing signs of
rigor mortis on the kitchen counter. To be
clear, I'm not talking about death.
That is an area that my partner and
co host doctor Gigi
knows all about as she routinely signs off
on death certificates with her work as a
physician and as hospice
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director. Instead, today,
we will be focusing on the time that
we spend just prior to that certainty of
death.
Some call it the autumn of our lives,
some refer to it as a sunset of
life, whatever it's called.
They are the times that hopefully most of
us will live in various stages of good
health in our golden years.
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In the studio today is Roger and Jenny
Mitchell,
who have a very interesting and upbeat outlook
on this end stage game serving
seniors.
This couple just happened to run a senior
activity center in Brookings, Oregon, but similar
centers populate countless cities and towns in The
USA. In fact,
there are as many senior activity centers in
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America as there are
McDonald's restaurants
or Starbucks coffee shops. And I mean that's
a lot. There's well over 15,000
senior activity centers in The United States alone.
So let's go a bit deeper, shall we?
Let's explore some of the aspects of aging
and discover some interesting things about the bigger
picture of becoming a senior and growing old.
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Without further verbiage from me, I'd like to
introduce Roger and Ginny
Mitchell.
The Doc Denjock Radio Show welcomes you. Thank
you. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to our show.
Well, let's ask the
obligatory first question. Sure. Where were you born
and raised? Each of your first ladies first,
Janine.
I'm an Orange County girl born in Fullerton.
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My father was born in Buena Park. My
mother was born in Anaheim, and my grandmother
was born in Boyle Heights.
So you are a Southern California? Yes. Yeah.
Okay. So called. Okay. Now, everybody,
now listen to his accent. Guess where he's
from. Alright. Roger, where are you from? You
have to guess.
Not so weird. I was I was born
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in Ealing,
E A L I N G, in West
London,
and my mother was born about five miles
away in a place called Hayes. My father
was born,
in Hull in Yorkshire in the Northeast Of
England. Yorkshire?
So cute. And I was born in 1946.
I'll be 80 next month. Wow.
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Wow. Looking good. January
next year. Looking good. And
what brought you to this lovely coastal corner
of the world? I was a tour bus
driver,
and I'll give you the short version.
I,
was on my last trip
before I went in to be a transportation
manager,
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and one of my passengers asked if she
could come out for a drink with me
in the evening. It wasn't Jenny. It was
her predecessor.
And,
well, naturally,
the Americans
in England, we we kill a few every
year
because they don't look the right way before
they walk out into traffic. So on the
way back from having a drink, I held
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her hand,
and then we'll we'll skip a couple of
years to when I moved to Pasadena in
Southern California,
and married her. Wow. Uh-huh. Nice. Cool. But
still not up here. How did you get
up here then? Well Well, I can I
can tell you this storage? Yeah.
After
after his wife passed away,
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we got together and got married. And we
we graduated
from education
in
early two thousand and nine when a lot
of people were graduating from jobs at that
time. Yeah.
And,
I've been on the Internet for a few
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years looking at places, thinking about where to
retire.
And I had done a lot of trips
up and down the coast, and and I
thought it was beautiful. I'd I'd also lived
in Spain for seven years.
And one of the most beautiful parts of
Spain is the Costa Brava,
which
bears an uncanny resemblance
to the Oregon Coast. Let me go check
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it out. Warmer down there. Wow.
And,
He followed you. Well, that basically, what happened
was I was doing a search online for
good places to retire,
and I saw this top 10 places to
retire, and they said Brookings, Oregon, right on
the coast.
Oh, dang. That's me. So we went and
checked it out and came came here for
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Thanksgivings in a row, decided, yes, we liked
it. And when we when we retired in
2009, came up here. Rest is history. Very
cool. So now what do you do? What
are your titles and positions
in the the the Brookings Activity Center?
Well, I'm a board member. Mhmm. I have
been a volunteer
for
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a number of things. I started off with,
well, I'll I'll get to that a little
later. I've I've I've been a volunteer,
receptionist.
I've worked with the tax pro program,
helping welcome people in,
and I occasionally interpret for people who come
into the tax program who speak Spanish. There
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you go. Cool. So you speak a little
Spanish because you're kind of in Spain. Right?
I I yes. I lived there for seven
years and was a Spanish teacher after I
came back. Wow. Very cool. Not much call
for a Spanish teacher.
And you're involved there too. Right, Roger? You're
involved with the activity center?
I'm involved. I'm president this year Oh, well.
Congratulations. The activity center.
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On that. And,
BOD.
I joined
the,
center
when I was looking for something to do
just after we moved to Brookings in 2009,
and I ended up driving for Kari Transit.
K. Kari Transit. My boss,
Joanne was Waspower,
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asked if I'd like to become a volunteer
tax preparer.
Oh. Well, we had just been charged $1,100
to have our CPA in Southern California do
our taxes. Wow. We sent the paper down
to him, and he charged us $1,100
and $75
to e file our taxes.
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And so when you're in That's pushing a
button. That's pushing a button. You know that?
Exactly. I I can do it. $5. Yeah.
Yeah. I can do it. I am I'll
do it for you. I am a tax
preparer.
And,
so that was a big yes,
and
volunteer work tends to snowball.
And so I, after that, became a
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receptionist,
and we've continuously volunteered for,
duties at the center,
including what we do now, which is delivering
the Meals on Wheels,
which is the
jewel in the crown. Right. I like I
like its abbreviation, Mo, m o w. M
o w. Mills o. Mills o. Mills o.
Yeah. Mao. Mao. I think all of us
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are seniors here except Robert Mann, who is
on my left, and we will be getting
to him in a little bit from now,
talking about the films and comedy of his
background in life. But we are all seniors
here.
And When does seniors start?
55 or 60, I think. Right? I think
so. How old you gotta be to become
a member of the activity center? 60, 55?
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You can be a member at any age.
Oh.
But,
you according to the funding for
our Meals on Wheels and our,
dining room I think that's sixty years. Is
is sixty. Yeah. Sixty years. Alright. And you
you start getting your art magazine at 50.
So There oh, I thought art was 55.
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But okay. Now we know. That's sort of
like because I'm definitely in the senior range,
and
you are too. Now you two ladies look
under 50. Yeah. Definitely.
For sure. But I I gotta ask this.
What are some
of the misconceptions
that younger people in our society and society
in general, what what is some of the
misconceptions
about,
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well, about seniors and aging? I know it's
a little bit deeper question, but do you
do either of you chime in on that?
What are some of the misconceptions that we
get
as seniors? How do people judge us and
look at us? Well, I think we
think when we're younger, at least I did,
you you you first of all think that
you're invincible, that you're immortal.
And,
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then
you think, well, yeah, I'll go through life,
and when I'm finished, it'll just be like
a long car journey.
And we we switch off the key, and,
it's all over. Yeah. Doesn't work out that
way. It gets more complicated.
You get
a couple of brain surge surgeries, which I
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have had,
and I don't walk very well. I can
no longer get around the kitchen and cook.
Now most
senior citizens,
would want to live in their own homes
for absolutely as long as possible because we're
comfortable there. Right.
And the Meals on Wheels service
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can
help in doing that because
they get
one
my wife is is better at Meals on
Wheels than I am, but you get one
good meal, a good nutritious meal
every day, including weekends. We deliver five days
a week, and we deliver frozen,
meals for the weekend.
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And
that enables people to remain in their own
home because, you know, they can snack and
get some cereal for breakfast.
And
some of these people
do not see anybody
else other than the person that delivers their
their meals,
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and
they like to see people.
Also there's a safety element. We had a
lady,
when she didn't reply to the knock on
the door when
the person was delivering their meals,
She looked inside
and the lady was on the floor and
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obviously in distress
and a call to 911
solved the problem. We were told afterwards that
if it hadn't been for our volunteer being
there Wow.
That she would it would not have been
a happy situation. Right. Wow. Good story is
that. Right? Yeah. Now another story that I
wanna elicit, what's been the most surprising or
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heartwarming
part of leading Well, that story right there
is pretty darn good. Right? But that
well It's not surprising. Well, I can There
was a microwave issue. Right? Wasn't there a
microwave? Yes. Yes. That was what I was
just thinking. There we go. Okay.
On our route,
a lady had
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ceased to order her frozen meals
for the weekend.
There were very many poor people living in
Bookings Harbour area, and some people live in
trailers with tarps over the roof
because the roofs leak.
You know?
It's it's tough. Why should they be hungry
as well?
And Jenny inquired, and, the lady said, well,
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my microwave
gave up.
That was why she couldn't take her frozen
meals for the weekend. That was that was
why she couldn't had no way of heating
heating her meals.
Well, we put the word around,
actually, in another association we belong to called
Curry County Cruisers. Oh, yeah. We know the
Curry. They've been on the show. Right? Yeah.
And,
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one of our members
said, well, we've got a microwave sitting in
the garage gathering dust.
Would you like it?
And so we said, absolutely.
Well, when we delivered it, I understand that
the lady's face had to be seen to
be believed. She was overjoyed
at getting this microwave,
and she went back to picking up to,
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having her weekend meals delivered frozen. Frozen.
Sweet. She's still doing so, fortunately.
Wow. Yeah. Very good. Good story. How do
you define neither one of you, Jane how
do you define a a life well lived?
And how do you see, like, the sinner?
How do you see your sinner helping singers
move closer to that idea? That's a philosophical
end, but what what is all this a
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life well lived? And are the majority of
the people that are under your charge, have
they lived a good life?
Well, they're not under my charge, but we're
there, and we're we're doing what we can.
Yeah.
Basically, I think a life well lived is
when you are
meeting meeting your own needs Right. Making your
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world a better place.
Right.
And,
As happy and healthy as you can be.
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, going back to,
not being surprised at getting old. I remember
when I was a kid,
people used to say, who's that old lady
in the mirror? And I go, well, of
course, you know. You've lived your whole life.
How how could you not know?
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And then all of a sudden, I had
the same thing happen to me. I looked
in the mirror one day and dang it,
there was my mother.
And,
I kind of, you know, feel like I
need to tell everyone, enjoy
your youth,
your brains, and your health while you've got
them because
that you get old before you know it.
Right. All of a sudden, I I turned
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around and how did I get to be
72? I don't know.
But it's
you know, I think some of the things
that happen that
people expect that when you get old,
you don't care. You're not worried about life.
What you're still the same person.
Mhmm. You still think you're the same person.
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Your body doesn't always respond like it used
to. Right.
But
the person is still the same one inside
and still has this
Right. The the same hopes and dreams
even though as we go on, sometimes we
modify our hopes and dreams a little bit.
So you'll have you get people together as
well in the activity center. Yes. And it's
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not just old people, right, or seniors. Right.
There's younger people too that can go to
that Yes. Center.
When when you do, do you pick up
the older people who don't have cars or,
you know, for for
an activity that you maybe
have there? I would just say, basically, bingo
night. But
We'd
actually, bingo is
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Friday at noon, and Roger happens to be
the caller. Yeah. There you go. He puts
a he puts a Brit spin on all
the numbers,
which is kind of fun.
But,
for you pick them up? We we don't
pick them up, but
we are
the local dial a ride.
Cool. Yeah. You can pick them up. Sometimes
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they do that.
For a turkey dinner once a month,
they come from some of the,
Humalese Homes, and they get they come in
on their bus
Good. So they can do it. And it's
a beautiful center. I mean, it's really you
know, it's it's an upgrade. Now I know
this show is being heard in Humboldt,
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and Eureka. I know there's multiple activity centers
there.
Crescent City has one up and down the
coast. So this is just one of many,
and it's it's a real good one. I
gotta say it looks it's a it's a
big beautiful We're we're very lucky to have
it, and it's exciting to see people there
every day. And
I think the social needs
are real important.
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How do you how do you gather funding?
Well,
lot of things we
we have people who are trying to get
grants for us.
Roger can speak to that a little more
than I can. Yeah. Like the matching one?
Yeah. What's the matching fund all about, Nacho?
It's amazing. Fund
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is because we lose
$6,000
per month,
and that is obviously not sustainable even though
we do have considerable investments, but they're going
down
all the time. And as
wages go up, because we do have three
or four
paid
help.
And so
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we,
we lose $6,000
every month,
$72,000
a year.
And
we want the center
to remain right where it is, and so
we thought we would set an example. Hopefully,
people will contribute,
and Jenny and I will,
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contribute an equal amount up to $50,000.
Wait a minute. You're matching funds. So if
I come in with $5, you're gonna put
in $5?
Yes. $50, $50. But did you say $5.00?
Yes. $50,000.
Wow. This is, somebody that putting their mouth
where their no. Their money where their mouth
is. Mhmm. Wow. Wow. Wow. That is amazing.
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I've never heard of something Right. Match funds?
Yeah. I mean, we've had things like that
and various,
volunteer,
activities here in town, but nothing that big.
Do you are you always looking for volunteers?
Always looking for volunteers.
In fact, I got
when Roger got involved with the center,
he was driving the bus, and we were
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eating lunch there. And then I discovered they
had this wonderful computer room, and I was
using their Wi Fi. And Sure.
Things just sort of went for a while,
I was teaching a computer class with Ira.
God rest his soul.
And,
then I started
volunteering
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being a receptionist.
And we've got the tax program. We always
need people for Meals on Wheels.
Gyloride.
And are you serving hundreds of people every,
every month?
Thousands of people during a year
if you added everybody in there?
Yeah. We,
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we serve an average of 63
Meals on Wheels per day. Wow. There are
three routes,
so that we can get the routes done
in a timely manner so as the food
is still hot. And is it free, or
is it donate what you can now? It's
a donate what you can. Pardon? We are
according to our funding, which is federal,
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and we get about $6,000
a month
in from that, which just about covers our
payroll.
And so
But you're still losing 6,000. But we're losing
another 6,000 because we've got to cover the
food as well. Well, how noble though. I
mean, that's I I dig this what you're
doing. And the matching program sounds too good
to be true. Now do,
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companies donate foods ever so often?
Yes. Or We've had Harry and David have
donated in the past. Wow. They're fruits and
bits. I love those. They donate
beautiful
food, Harry and Blake. Right. Right. They have
We might appreciate them. And Fred Meyer. Yeah.
Okay. Right on. Okay. So how do people
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get a hold of you? How do people
check you out? Do is there a website?
Should they just come into the center? What
are its hours? There's a website called
chetcoac,chetc0ac,.org.
Okay. Chetco.achetcoac.org.
Okay.
(25:47):
Conditioner. People can call
on (541)
469-6822.
(541)
469-6822.
Okay. And they can come and see us,
and we'll
someone will be glad to show them around
the building
and show them the rooms that we've got
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available. We have meeting rooms available.
We have our dining room, which I think
can hold 88 people Wow. Legally. And it's
got a commercial kitchen? And it's got a
commercial kitchen. Right on. And people can rent
that for wedding receptions
or
any events, parties,
bar mitzvahs,
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eighteenth birthday parties,
and so on.
And
the center is
open from,
I think the first people get there about
06:00 in the morning. Wow. And They're they're
all done. And they How do they get
in hold a hold of you if they
wanna donate and you're matching?
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Call
or come and see us. Call the number
I've seen. (541)
469-6822.
Yep. Yep. And,
ask for Carol Owens. Carol Owens. Okay. And
she she is dealing with this as our
she's our assistant,
general manager. Hey, Carol.
Another volunteer,
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position.
She's there all the time. Alright. And she's
there from
about seven in the morning until three in
the afternoon. Dang.
And,
you can come and and,
Check it out. Check it out. Ask to
see her or
another board member.
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Glenda is our treasurer. She is frequently there.
Glenda Groff. K.
And,
Thane, of course, the general manager. Thane is
Thane Groff is the general manager. Okay. He'd
say And
you, as a person who donates,
can,
charge,
or count this against as a deduction
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Good. Against your income tax deduction, which particularly
makes a difference at the state level. Yeah.
Because the
the,
personal deductions
at the federal level are so high
that it it will make more of a
difference Right on. At the, at the state
level of of taxes.
And a good way to
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come check out the center is to come
for lunch. We're open for lunch
from eleven to one, Monday through Friday.
And do come for our turkey dungsters. Coming
up on Thanksgiving?
Last Friday. Oh, Thanksgiving Yeah. To remind you.
They have two turkeys then. Okay. Is a
is a fundraiser.
We are selling tickets
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at $30
per person
for Thanksgiving lunch,
and, those can be purchased,
from the center
as well. Okay. What's the address? We only
have, 5550
Chetco Lane,
and you won't see it That's 101, on
102. Just off the 101. Okay. Behind
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I always describe it as being behind
the Subway sandwich.
Alright. There we go. Invest on. You could
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I wanna thank both,
Roger and Jeanne Mitchell for coming in and
talking to us about and handling some of
the bigger questions about what you're doing, and
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thank you for what you are doing. And
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you for letting us know about this. Alright.
We are at that half hour show time.
Are we not? Yes. We are. We are.
Time flies when we're having fun. It's already
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Alright. We've got the Very cool. We've got
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the drumbeat going because we have a special
guest that we just came on our radar
recently, thanks to Michael Gorris.
But,
we've had many guests on the show. Mhmm.
And we often find that there's a certain
breed of creator out there who refuses to
be contained by a single medium or moment.
Robert Mann is that kind of artist. He's
(30:44):
a filmmaker
who can find poetry and panic.
You'll find out about that with his great
horror flick that he makes. He's a comedian
who sees tragedy as a slightly mistimed punchline,
and he's a visual artist who loves bringing
things together.
Robert, we found out, is a very intriguing
fellow. He comes very well vetted by many
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folks here in our region and elsewhere in
the country. And again, special thanks to Michael
Gorse who gave me the tip that Robert
Mann would be in town and available to
do this very show and on more shows
on KCI,
W broadcast over the next week. So let's
dip down into the realm of comedy and
horror and filmmaking,
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perfect timing for this haunted time of year.
Right? And get the backstory on our guest,
Robert Mann. Hey. Welcome to the DocuSign Radio
version.
Thank you for having me. Alright. I'm here.
Oh, please. Please sit down. Please.
Don't get off anybody, please. Here.
Wait till you hear what this guy has
done. Okay. Gigi, lead off the subject. Okay.
My question.
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Guilty.
Guilty. Guilty.
I'm guilty.
Guilty of being born where? Where? Yeah.
Mars of, the fur that was my first
stop. Then I went to Saturn and came
back to Earth and
was in Florida for a while and grew
up there and, it was a lot of
fun and,
then they said, Go west, young man, go
west. So I went to UNLV for a
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little bit and Vegas. Vegas? Vegas, baby. It's
all about, you know, what happens in Vegas.
Stays there. Right? What happens in Vegas stays
there? Is that what they say? I thought
that was a church we went to last
week. Yeah. It was. Yeah. But by the
way by the way, I love your glasses.
See, I'm glad you noticed that. See, there
are broken glasses because Judy forgot to bring
my real glasses in. That's okay. What? Me?
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They're kinda comical horror. I was told that
they're hanging on my face kinda weird. Well,
you know, they could be kind of a
horror thing too, actually, when
you think about it. It's better than two
pairs. Yeah. Yeah. Alright.
So where do you live now, right? I
live in Vegas back in Vegas. Back in
Vegas? Yeah. I was in LA for about
twenty years in Orange County
and,
you know, because of the nature of what
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I do.
And after I got, well really right around
the time when we were in college,
a friend of mine who was in college
with me,
we went to LA and we did a
little something at the Improv
and
we did an hour of theater piece and
we invited
casting directors and also agents. And we did
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a little theater page called In by eight,
Out by nine. And you were literally in
by eight and you were out by nine.
And it was like just little vignettes,
you know, and we had about five or
six of those.
And people had wine and they had cheese
and crackers and stuff, so we set it
all up. It was all LA schmoozy kind
of thing, but just only those people. And
at the end of it,
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an agent came up to us and they
said, Hey, have you ever thought of being
a comedy team, stand up comedy team? There's
no stand up comedy teams. And we said,
no.
Contact, I wanna be your So we had
knew nothing about it. Eventually
we realized that you couldn't do theatrical pieces
at the improv or the comedy store, laugh
at whatever it was.
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But in the context of these little sketches
that we did, we had developed Piper and
Tupper. Piper Piper and Tupper were Which we
looked up on. YouTube? YouTube.
And Piper and Tupper were basically Simon and
Garfunkel only 10 times groovier.
That's right. They used the word groovy. Groovy.
Groovy.
And so we came up,
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as these characters when everybody else, you know,
Andrew Dice Clay would be his doing his
thing,
Chris Rock would be doing his thing, Pauley
Shore, we came up in that group, Jim
Carrey. So we came up with all these
guys
and
they would do their stand up and then
all of a sudden we'd come in with
our beetle boots and our cords and our
turtlenecks and love beads and peace signs
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and we pretended that it was a concert.
So we never broke character
and we talked like this a lot. And
you were Tupper in that. Yeah, so you
were Yeah, I was Neil Tupper. Neil Tupper.
And you were the guitarist? Yeah. I played
the guitar.
Sometimes six strings, sometimes a 12 string,
and sometimes an 18 string. And you were
kind of the straight guy, but
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and hyperbole.
We don't get into our sexual or religious
in
the Sorry, I didn't mean it that way.
No, it actually, it was a unique comedy
act in the sense that,
the audience was the straight person and we
were the comics and sometimes
we would flip flop and sometimes I'd be
the straight man and he would be the
funny guy and sometimes I'd be the funny
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guy. So it just depended on the bit
that we did.
And Mitzi sure saw us. We auditioned for
her because the improv wasn't our thing.
It wasn't our thing, man.
It just wasn't groovy. It wasn't groovy. It
wasn't groovy. It wasn't groovy. It was too
stuck up, you know, shirt and tie thing,
and we had turtlenecks, so we said, We're
not doing it. And Mitzi saw us, and
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she loves
comedy teams, number one. She loved female comics.
She loved things that were different. You know,
Pee Wee Herman. If you look at her
thing, Andrew Dice Clay, if you look at
what she had in her stable,
you could see that it was much more
theatrical in a sense. Harry Basil, which is
a great comic.
But yeah, she did a lot of that.
Edna May, who played a character.
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Anyway,
so we auditioned for her and
she sat all the way in the back,
so you had to walk After you get
done, you have to walk all the way
through to get to
the exit into the hallway of the Comedy
Store. And her seat was the last one,
her table was the last one. So we
get done walking through and she stops us
and she says,
I loved you.
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You're like a breath of fresh air.
I want you as non paid regulars. So
this is non paid regulars. Paid regulars. Woah.
My god. So we go into the hallway
and all the other comics are there and
we're going, yeah. All right, man. We're gonna
go, non paid regulars. And then we go,
What's an unpaid regular?
And they said, Well, you can call in
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for your spots on Monday and Mitzi will
give you all your spots just like regular
comics, but you don't get paid. And we
said, Well, how long does that last? And
they said, Well, usually two to three years.
Oh my God. And we said,
Okay, right on.
We'll do it. At least we get before
all these actors and other fellow comedians, right?
So
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she really liked us. So with us, took
two months before we paid regulars.
Wow. Four
months, four months we were in the main
room.
Six months we were playing her Vegas club.
Oh, nice. How fun is that? And
isn't comedy the hardest of all the disciplines,
right? The Greeks always said, If there's one
thing, it's really hard because you can't make
everybody laugh. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Do you
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agree with that? I mean it's Well, here's
what I Here's
my assessment of drama and comedy and the
difference. I think to achieve a pinnacle
for each category is probably just as difficult.
Where the big difference comes into is if
you don't hit your mark on drama,
nobody really notices
the drama.
You don't hit it in comedy and you're
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all the way down to the ground. Yeah.
It's hit or miss. So there's no room
for error
in in that. Whereas drama people go, oh,
yeah. It was pretty good. Yeah.
But comedy,
you don't have the jokes. Oh, it sucked.
Right. You know? Oh,
So what are you doing in the now
here in the Pacific Northwest now? Well, promoting
two of my films, The Pumpkin Carver. Are
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they comedy? No. They're
Slasher hacker films. Some some may say they're
pretty comedic.
I know our producers that invested in it
think it's pretty funny.
Or not.
Really? Oh gosh. So,
but yeah, the pumpkin carving we did with
Minka Kelly
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and Airbnb
we did a couple years ago.
And the Pumpkin Carver is a classic horror
film. It's more campy though. It's fun. Very
Halloween ish obviously. Pumpkin Carver is spelled K
A R V E R. Yeah, that was
Pumpkin Carver. My producer came up with that
clever title. I was, oh, that's that's good.
And,
that's another story. Minka with Minka Kelly. Minka
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before she was Minka Kelly. Before she was
big, we we had gotten her. She got
fat on you? No. No. Oh. That big.
Not that big. That way. Oh, I got
it. I don't
know. I'm trying to find comedy thing.
Get your face out of the buffet table.
Okay. So you turned from comedy to
horror film? Well, yes and no. I
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Here's what happened. Yeah. I had written and
did a film called Trapped
and
it was a drama. It was basically a
drama. And this producer who produced the pumpkin
carver saw it. He had the same distributor
as mine and he had the same film
called Trapped.
Oh, definitely. And my distributor said, Hey, you
guys get together and you should make
a movie together.
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So he saw my film. He said, Oh,
you did great on No Money.
I wanna hire you as a writer director.
So I said, Okay. He said, The only
thing is you have to make it a
Halloween film, Halloween themed film. I said, Well,
give me a couple of days. I'll come
up with something. I came up with The
Pumpkin Carver. And
so we shot that and it got great
distribution.
This was when, because it came out about
(39:54):
2006 or 'seven. 2006, we've done that. That's
all. Quite a bit. And,
we had 20 units in every Blockbuster.
And you would go in the thing and
just it was there in perfect position. It
made a lot of money for Oh, Blockbuster.
Is it the store? Yeah. Oh, okay. Blockbuster
the store. Yeah. Yeah. And Hollywood Video, remember
all those Yeah. Tower and records. Oh, my
(40:15):
gosh. So it it probably grossed at the
end of the day about $5,000,000
Dang. But the producers made such a horrible
deal,
we didn't get seen anything on the back
end. Nothing. Wow.
And so it was They gave it away
at the front of the popcorn. Yeah.
And so,
to get back to your question, I've written
about 40 scripts, but they're not all horror
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and things like that. It's just the opportunity
with doing a horror film
and investing, it's an easier
distribution deal. Are comedy and horror very similar?
I mean, they both pull on our emotions.
Well,
yes, but not in the business world. Comedy
is much more difficult sell, especially worldwide because
what we think is funny Yeah. The the
Brits don't really think, oh, they're funny, daddy.
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They love.
There's definite difference
in humor across the Atlantic.
Across the pond. Across the pond. Across the
pond.
Some some jokes just go flat in this
country and you or you have to explain
the history background behind the joke. Right. Nitwits.
And Oh, it it it just doesn't work
well. I know. Not not at all. Not
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at all. Monty Python, I I'm just not
all that impressed. Just just a flesh wound.
It's just a flesh wound. Yeah. There you
go. Perfect.
Oh. So so, anyway, so we we did
this, then we did our Airbnb and I've
written, like I said, 40 scripts. Some of
them are comedy, some of them are dramas.
Airbnb came many years later? '23. '23. But
in between that, I did a bunch of
other things. I did No. Did they actually
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you didn't just write them. You actually made
a film. Right. Correct. Okay. Alright. Correct. And
in between some of the features, I've done
some shorts. Mhmm. And, one was a sci
fi, The Soldier, The Search for Existence. It's
very sci fi Twilight Zone ish.
I'm pitching one right now called Roberto's Friend.
It's family friendly. It's like bad news bears
meet spiel of dreams about Roberto Clemente coming
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back as a 12 year old boy Oh.
To befriend
his best friend when he was growing up.
And,
he comes back to put him on the
right path Cool. So to speak.
Wow. But, yeah. So we're doing these at
the Redwood Theater, as you know, on October
30. And we're doing
Right
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above us, our heads are here. We're down,
basically. Right. The Redwood Theater, as
you know, on October 30. And
we're
doing a Halloween costume contest. We'll do a
winner. And then the winners, the top three
will get like autograph scripts of the shooting
script of the pumpkin carver, DVD of Airbnb.
Those have posters.
So we're doing all fun things to do.
And that's happening on the thirtieth. We'll come
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back. What is Manatee Films? Manatee Films because
I grew up in Florida. So I used
to swim with Manatees and my last name
is Mann.
Oh, yeah. With Ann, Brian, that's what we
thought. You were Germans. You were a doctor.
So, oh, German. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So,
my, my ex at the time, she said,
oh, you should just do a play on
your name, like, Mantastic Films. Oh, yeah. It's
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spelled with Manatee. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. So we
do Manatee Films because I used to swim
with Manatees when I was in Florida. So
wait. So you invented that company? What did
you do?
It's a film it's a film company. Yeah.
Well, when I did Trap, my first film,
usually, you you kind of develop a company,
and you can either have a slate of
films or one film, and then you slowly
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do that.
So
you create this company so that you can
get funding, etcetera, etcetera, and you can
distribute funding and you hire these people and
basically you, it's independent contractors and stuff. So
is that like a production field? It is
a production company. Okay. Yeah. We're like a
really
small mini,
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you know, Sony or Columbia or, you know,
you know. Okay. Have you always been a
horror movie fan? No. No. No. But when
I was a kid, my mom was doing
a horror film and she brought me on
set.
And, that's I kinda got the bug and
she was direct she was directing. She was,
dating a director and he gave me my
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first camera.
And from that time around, I just started
shooting everything and whatever it was, I would
shoot. People would say, Get away from me,
Robert. Get away from me.
People on the street, Hey, hey, how you
doing? And
they'd run.
And
so I was just trying anything I could
to shoot and see what would happen and
edit it. And
when I went to college, I said, what
do I wanna do? And I was a
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business major. I said, I don't know. I'm
a business major. I don't think so.
So
I went into film. So you think you
went to LA and Went to LA. Filmmaker.
Yeah. Now what do you like best? Acting,
writing, directing, promoting,
starring?
You know, I started out I started out
as an actor, which a lot of people
do, and it just kind of morphed into
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other things because as an actor, if you
wanna do a nice project for yourself,
there's an old saying, If you wanna act,
write.
So I started writing
and creating stories and things like that.
And I love
acting because it's the first thing, and stand
up was
so much fun. Right. Every night you're acting.
So every night you were just you didn't
(45:08):
have to wait for an audition. You didn't
have to, you know, wait for somebody to
want you. You created your own content. And
we did a Piper and Tupper short film
also.
And we would do all these little YouTube
things. They're all out there that we did.
So that was wonderful as an actor.
So it's a lot of fun.
And,
writing is, I think, is the most difficult.
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It's just you alone with a blank piece
of paper in a sense.
The actor has the script and he has
the director. Mhmm. The director has the script
and he's got the actors.
The writer has nobody.
Writers, it's just it's just up here. It's
just what's ever gonna come out. What's happening
with AI? This is off script, but are
you worried about AI? What's because it's coming
(45:49):
up with all these writings. I think everybody
is to a degree. For me, if you're
doing an independent film,
I can write my script, go out, get
the funding, and we can go shoot the
movie. So I don't have to sit sit
there and say, Oh, my budget's gonna be
this. If we do an AI script like
studios are attempting to do, we don't have
to pay the writer. We don't have to
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pay the residuals.
But it's a slippery slope and I don't
think it's all that great. Well, the writing,
that would be the only thing that could
be curtailed. Right? But, I mean, you still
need the producer. You still need the director.
You still need the actors. Actors. Oh, you
mean AI actors. Of course. They're they're doubling
that, you know, like crowd scenes and things.
Oh, yeah. You don't have to and I've
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seen some AI,
videos, some little short movies that were all
done AI. It looks
amazing.
And you're thinking, okay, well, this actor,
let's say this actor becomes famous. Well, there's
no person to do the red carpet. There's
no there's no person to talk to. It's
it's it's make believe. It's not there. It's
not real. It's an illusion. Which is becoming
(46:52):
more and more of our reality is is
what is AI Yep. And just real news.
Is this AI produced? Or is this yeah.
Yeah. Are you tied into,
to the Wild Rivers Film Festival? Yes. Michael
Gorst part of it. Ozzy was on the
show last week. And our friend who's on
three shows, Dan Springen.
So tell us about your he might be
listening in today. I think he's streaming it.
(47:13):
Dan, Dan's the man. Let me tell you,
Dan, I met Dan
in 02/2010
at the Orlando Film Festival. I brought him
the Piper and Tupper short and he fell
in love with it.
And we actually went to the Orlando Film
Festival two years in a row.
And the second year, we performed live before
our screening. So they got Piper and Tupper
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live and they got the screening afterwards,
and that was a blast.
And Dan has since come here to develop
Wild Rivers Film Festival
and that was in 2023
and he calls me up. He says, Hey,
Rob, you got any films? And he goes,
I wanna play Piper and Tupper.
I said, okay, but it's really not up
to snuff. You know, it was shot on
(47:54):
SD. You know, it's not the greatest four
eighty p. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
We'll get it on a DCP. It's gonna
look great. So, okay. Okay. And then he
says, well, do you have any other films?
Because he was just starting. So I said,
Well, yeah, I got all these other shorts.
You know, he goes, Let's just do an
evening with Robert Mann.
Right on. So that was on the first
one. So we showed Oh, yeah. RBNB and
a bunch of shorts and it was a
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lot of fun and Airbnb,
let's say an hour and a half. Yeah.
They're both filmmakers. So the ones we're showing
at the Redwood on the thirtieth
are both features. And what I did was
I'm gonna do a double feature. I thought,
Hey, it'll be a Halloween double feature. I
got a horror and a thriller.
And,
you wanna see one film, you can. You
pay $9.
(48:35):
You see one film. If you wanna do
the double feature, it's like $13.
Come in, pay the 13, watch both of
them. Right. And call it a day.
And how since you're friends with Dan now.
Yes. And you just when did you arrive?
Just yesterday? I arrived
Monday. Okay. Well, welcome to our wonderful, wonderful
place. With this,
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so many people staying at home from the
big screen in the past ten years. Right?
They're all subscribing to premium channels. Mhmm. What's
your what do you think is the future
of, quote, movie theaters?
A lot of people
are very comfortable in their own home entertainment
centers and things like that. What you miss
(49:19):
is you miss
the audience and watching something
with a with a group and sharing that
shared experience. There's nothing like a shared experience,
especially,
you know, in a horror film or even
a comedy. Because comedy, when you laugh, when
you hear other laughter, it actually makes the
film in a way seem funnier because the
(49:40):
more that's why comics hate to just perform
between, you know, a few people in the
audience. The bigger the audience, really, the easier
it is for stand up comedy. Right. Because
it's just a group laughter. But people are
so inhibited when it's only a few people,
they don't wanna laugh. You know, they're all,
you know We just went for a long
time. We haven't gone, but we went to
our Tuesday movie,
Senior Night. Yeah. And there was this group
(50:02):
in front, and they were they were having
a fun. Remember you commented on that? So
that was kind of fun to see them.
They weren't
they weren't We will go for special effects.
You can't beat a big theater. No. No.
You can't. And you can't beat the sound.
I hate to tell you. You can't beat
the sound. You can't beat the big screen.
It's right there. And if you're gonna see
something in 70 millimeter
or, you know, with anamorphic and it's just
(50:24):
it's gorgeous and and it's just tough to
beat. And like I said, you can spill
your popcorn everywhere and then that's the vacuum
that I play. Gum. You can throw gum.
Throw jujubes at people's back of their heads
and pretend you weren't the one I almost
did that to those people in front of
us over to comment in numbers. Is there
money to be made in the independent film
industry? There is.
Unfortunately,
(50:44):
most people don't make money. Mhmm. And it's
because of many reasons,
the least of which is if it's a
good film. My distributor was talking to me
the other day. I was in New York
and he's talking to me. He says, Robert,
I'd rather have
a really bad piece of crap film,
but it's sellable and I've had those than
an award winning
multi
(51:04):
and it's just because it's the business nature
of it, it's the selling nature of it,
it's what that is. And he says sometimes
there's a crossover, sometimes you can get a
really good film that has a really good,
appeal to a mass audience. But right now,
the most popular and easiest to make money
on is action adventure,
and then there's a big drop between that
(51:25):
and horror and thriller,
then
probably family,
comedy, drama.
So I thought I thought comedy would be
at the top. It's not no. Not group.
It's about horror. Worldwide. It's not at the
top. It's action adventure. So action adventure is
the biggest one. Because you think about it.
Because worldwide,
we live film is a visual medium.
(51:47):
And you can tell the story just by
shooting, and all this action. It's all stimulation.
And this is what, you know, the the
market and the Asian market, all these markets
that are visual, they love all that.
And
on comedy, if you wanna hit worldwide market
too, you should do a broader physical comedy
(52:07):
because like let's say a Woody Allen film,
he plays great in New York, plays great
in some other areas, and even Woody has
a harder time in a sense in America,
but then you go somewhere else sometimes,
and what those in jokes,
Roger will tell you that
they don't play, you know, certain British jokes
will play in a certain way and and
and
(52:28):
so,
physical comedy, if you slip on a banana
peel
in any language, it's funny. That's why Jim
Carrey Oh my god. Did really well.
He could do the all of his little
difold And his facial expressions. I mean, right
there, you laugh for it. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Now we went we we have noticed that
all these kids' PG movies are out forever,
(52:48):
and there are all these cartoon
movies. They're out for weeks and weeks and
weeks. Animation is a big Animation. Yeah.
And and you don't need an actor for
that, really. And then the movies that Voiceover.
You did those.
And then we have the movies that we
were looking forward to. We go there on
Tuesday, and it's gone because nobody wants to
watch a room. I mean, we have not
had a good spat of good movies recently.
(53:10):
Yeah. Where are you showing, you know, our
friend and colleague, her colleague, doctor Kirk owns
porta pints in Crescent City. Correct. And you're
gonna be showing it to South Beach porta
pints. Right. So after the Redwood, big double
feature,
Sue Wright had mentioned
Porta Pines
and she said,
We couldn't do anything on Halloween
(53:31):
here
in Brookings. So she said, If you wanna
stay one more day, Rob, Porta Pints, they
would love to screen your film in their
Porta Pints thing. And I didn't even know
what that was. Yeah, the brewery. And so,
yeah, it's a little brewery. So I said,
Okay, we'll just do just the pumpkin carving,
because Halloween, let's just do that one. We'll
go to the brewery and it's, you know,
just a big screen TV thing. And it'll
(53:52):
be kind of fun and they'll be part
of the Halloween atmosphere.
So I said, Yeah, let's just do it.
I'm here. Right on. It's a small brewery
in a big building. And
by the way, they have real ax throwing.
Right. I heard that. Drunk. I'm not drinking.
I'm not promoting that at all. But you
can drink and then throw axes. I hope
that Live ones. We should They're really shaking
their heads looking at We should do that.
(54:12):
You know, I used to throw axes when
I was a I can't wait. What happened
to the kid? The pumpkin parlor guy. Yeah.
Okay.
Can you can you put your arms out
there? Jesus can't laugh. You cannot do that,
and I can just
nobody's done it yet. Apple. So he just
don't we just don't know. Gigi and I
can both double team it. Right? I'm like,
(54:33):
okay. Hey. What are your three
favorite
films? My three favorite films? Of all time.
Right now at this moment. Yeah. Right now.
Right now. The Godfather, The Wizard of Oz
Uh-huh. And Casablanca.
Okay. Let me ask you asked me the
same question.
How about you, Roger? What is your favorite
films?
I like the the,
(54:54):
British ones. We followed on TV and what
and also went to movies for Downtown Abbey?
Downton Abbey,
which I thought was an excellent series and
a couple of excellent movies in there. Okay.
I'm hard to please on movies. Do you
need do you need any chime in for
you on your favorite movies of all time?
Oh. King Kong, Wizard of Oz, like you
(55:16):
said. I love
them. Wizard of Oz is like a perfect
film. It is. It is amazing film. I
loved Amarcord
by Fellini. Oh,
Amarcord?
Because you were in Spain. Right? Me? I
was in Spain. Yeah. Yeah. It's Italy. It's
there's a lot of similarities
culturally with a very sweet film. Isn't it
(55:37):
weird how sometimes you see movies when you're
younger? I remember seeing with,
Doctor Zhivago.
I thought that was such a good movie.
I see it now. It's kind of So
what are what are your two favorite films?
Yeah. Three there are three. We'll go with
the doc first.
I'm kind of not very film y. Three
Amigos.
It's a comedy.
Right? Galaxy Quest. No. Never heard of that.
(56:00):
It's also a And your Fandango, the one
the weird one you always say you like?
Oh, wait. Now you have me all. Do
you say yours then? I'm oh oh, night.
Shanghai Knights. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh
(56:22):
Ray Simon falls off a cliff is another
great one.
Off this beach cliff.
I like Wizard of Oz, sure. And then
King Kong and I have,
I'll say Doctors of because of Romaniac. That
was my mother's favorite movie. That's everybody's mom's
favorite, right? Yeah, Doctor. Jovago. Truly one of
those. My mom liked it too, yeah, I
think. And we're getting close to that closeout
(56:43):
hour.
I wanna ask you, what is your
What would you like your tombstone to say?
We ask My tombstone? Yeah. What is it
gonna say? Well, I'm being cremated. Okay. That
doesn't matter. You still have a tombstone. What
would you say? What would you like to
say? You know what? I got In England.
In all honesty, in all honesty, I don't
really care. You don't care? I don't care.
Yeah. He left the stage laughing. Yeah. He
(57:03):
left the stage laughing. Alright. No. Robert Mann
really is not here. That would be He's
over there. He's over there. He's over there.
He's over there. He's over there. He's over
there. He's over there. He's over there. He's
over there.
Fantastic.
Listen. We were looking forward to spending some
time with you. You're gonna be on tour
(57:23):
here.
You got a good guide with Michael Gorse
and other people here in the studio. So
thank thank you for coming on, Robert, and
talking about your life, and you're gonna be
on multiple shows. So everybody tune in for
what's happening. And we'll see you at one
of your showings here at either local Please,
please, please come on out. Everybody come on
out to
the showings, the Redwoods first, then Crescent City.
(57:44):
But,
it's gonna be a lot of fun. A
lot of fun. And the costume contest should
be lot of fun. Yeah. You're a fun
guy. I'm glad we, we're glad you came
on the studio, and we got again, thanks
to Michael Gorris.
Roger and and Jeanne, thank you for coming
on and talking about the center and your
incredible
it's just a wonderful opportunity to be matched.
So any money you might put into donate
(58:06):
to the activity center,
you are matching. I I have to Very
cool. Both of you. Yeah. Okay, doc. Where
are we? Alright. We're at the end. You
have
been listening to the Doc and Jacques
Variety Show on KCOW
one hundred point seven FM
in Brookings, Oregon,
and we sure hope you have enjoyed our
show as much as we have. Indeed. Peace
(58:26):
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(58:49):
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Thank you for turning into this week's fantastic
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(00:32):
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back, Ray, from your time. Michael Gorsh, you're
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the same syndicated show will be rebroadcast in
(00:53):
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ninety six point seven FM in Humboldt, Eureka,
Arcadia area. And then a few hours later
at 1PM on my old alma mater, KFUG
one zero one in Crescent City, California. So
now you know that doc and I have
your coast covered.
Alright, doctor. Right. What medical marvels and good
(01:14):
medicine and health notes does my German
medical doctor patent holding scientist and university professor
I'm building you up. Yeah. Thank you. What
do you have for us for this week,
health segment of MDGG?
Well, thank you for building me up. I
need that. K. We're gonna be talking about
asthma.
That's it.
I'm wondering. That's not I'm not joking about
(01:35):
it. No. Go ahead. What is asthma? It
affects a lot of people. Right. Asthma is
a common chronic disease worldwide and affects approximately
twenty five million
or one in twelve people in The United
States. Mhmm. It is the most common chronic
disease in childhood.
Wow. It affects about six million
US children
(01:56):
each year.
Listen to this. Asthma leads to ninety four
thousand hospital stays. Just round off to a
hundred.
Over nine hundred thousand emergency visits Right. You
on a run? A million. Yeah.
And cause over three thousand five hundred death.
Oh, boy. With older adults at the highest
risk. Wow. Folks, I wake up doctor Gigi
(02:18):
every night at exactly 12:59AM.
That's when we have our one to one
doc.
See, I gotta get her going. Once you
get her laughing, then you're set. Okay. Keep
telling us about asthma, doc.
During an asthma attack, the airway muscles, especially
around the bronchitis
and bronchioli,
tighten,
and the lining swell. That's what gives you
(02:39):
the sound. Mhmm. The swelling of the lining
can be caused by an allergen, whatever you're
allergic
to, by exercise,
or by cold air and more.
This in turn causes then the muscles that
surround those airways to constrict,
get tighter. K. Both of these events,
narrow the airways, making it difficult for the
(02:59):
air to move in and out of the
lungs,
leading to wheezing,
coughing,
and shortness of breath. Yeah. What do you
call a radio disc jockey? Disc jockey. Who
has stopped breathing, doctor? What do you call
them? Off the air.
Asthma Has no cure. Asthma has no cure.
(03:22):
Asthma has no cure. Amazing. I thought they
cured it. You got those things people spray
those things in their mouths. Yeah. But you
did not go to medical school, so you
didn't know. I can't say. Pardon me.
But it can be
managed with medication
or and lifestyle strategies. I like that. Lifestyle
strategies.
Treatments focus on the real on relieving those
(03:42):
symptoms and preventing attacks. So there are two
main types of treatment.
The rescue inhaler that basically everybody knows about.
Alright. The rescue inhaler like albuterol
relaxes
the tight muscles around the wind the the
pipes, the air pipes. K. And they're called
one of the they're called albuterol.
They basically, that's the only one there is.
(04:03):
Now okay. Let's get a little bit technical.
Albuterol
is a beta two
agonist
that relaxes
the,
muscles surrounding there, but it also actually activates
the beta one, which gives,
I'm giving it away already, which makes your
heart go faster. Oh. So that one is
(04:23):
the first one. And then the other one,
the ipratropium,
is in so called anticholinergic,
and they both are there to relax the
muscles.
Wow.
Well, I bought a little bag of air
today, doctor.
I thought it was so nice of the
company that produced it. They also included a
few potato chips inside of it.
(04:45):
That's a good idea.
Okay. What else does it Okay. So they're
also long term control medicines.
That means you only take them once and
they're not rescue medicines or rescue things. So
there include the steroid inhalers and they,
function as getting the,
inflammation down because that's part of the asthma
deal.
(05:08):
Little kids who don't know or don't fathom
how to do the inhalers
actually get something called montelukast.
Is that a pill? Brand name Singulair.
Yeah. That's a pill, and it helps. Wow.
And for more severe cases, there are biologics
such as omalizumab
or dublimab.
Dermab means monoclonal antibody,
(05:30):
and there are injectables usually.
Wow. Okay. So now we know a little
bit more about asthma. Mhmm. You know, I
went to the library to get a medical
book on abdominal pain. Yeah. But somebody had
ripped the appendix out.
Alright. All puns aside, thank you for that
enlightening MDGG
regarding asthma, doctor.
Alright.
Okay. As promised, we have a great show
(05:51):
today.
A triple header is coming your way with
three unique and talented folks who excel at
what they do best. Our first two guests
make up a team that serves our locally
local,
lovely
region in a special way.
Need I remind you, if you don't already
know that you, yes, you, dear listener, is
getting older. Not me. You are aging just
(06:13):
like those green grapes that have been sitting
in your refrigerator for two weeks or the
sourdough bread growing stale and showing signs of
rigor mortis on the kitchen counter. To be
clear, I'm not talking about death.
That is an area that my partner and
co host doctor Gigi
knows all about as she routinely signs off
on death certificates with her work as a
physician and as hospice
(06:35):
director. Instead, today,
we will be focusing on the time that
we spend just prior to that certainty of
death.
Some call it the autumn of our lives,
some refer to it as a sunset of
life, whatever it's called.
They are the times that hopefully most of
us will live in various stages of good
health in our golden years.
(06:56):
In the studio today is Roger and Jenny
Mitchell,
who have a very interesting and upbeat outlook
on this end stage game serving
seniors.
This couple just happened to run a senior
activity center in Brookings, Oregon, but similar
centers populate countless cities and towns in The
USA. In fact,
there are as many senior activity centers in
(07:16):
America as there are
McDonald's restaurants
or Starbucks coffee shops. And I mean that's
a lot. There's well over 15,000
senior activity centers in The United States alone.
So let's go a bit deeper, shall we?
Let's explore some of the aspects of aging
and discover some interesting things about the bigger
picture of becoming a senior and growing old.
(07:38):
Without further verbiage from me, I'd like to
introduce Roger and Ginny
Mitchell.
The Doc Denjock Radio Show welcomes you. Thank
you. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to our show.
Well, let's ask the
obligatory first question. Sure. Where were you born
and raised? Each of your first ladies first,
Janine.
I'm an Orange County girl born in Fullerton.
(08:01):
My father was born in Buena Park. My
mother was born in Anaheim, and my grandmother
was born in Boyle Heights.
So you are a Southern California? Yes. Yeah.
Okay. So called. Okay. Now, everybody,
now listen to his accent. Guess where he's
from. Alright. Roger, where are you from? You
have to guess.
Not so weird. I was I was born
(08:22):
in Ealing,
E A L I N G, in West
London,
and my mother was born about five miles
away in a place called Hayes. My father
was born,
in Hull in Yorkshire in the Northeast Of
England. Yorkshire?
So cute. And I was born in 1946.
I'll be 80 next month. Wow.
(08:42):
Wow. Looking good. January
next year. Looking good. And
what brought you to this lovely coastal corner
of the world? I was a tour bus
driver,
and I'll give you the short version.
I,
was on my last trip
before I went in to be a transportation
manager,
(09:04):
and one of my passengers asked if she
could come out for a drink with me
in the evening. It wasn't Jenny. It was
her predecessor.
And,
well, naturally,
the Americans
in England, we we kill a few every
year
because they don't look the right way before
they walk out into traffic. So on the
way back from having a drink, I held
(09:24):
her hand,
and then we'll we'll skip a couple of
years to when I moved to Pasadena in
Southern California,
and married her. Wow. Uh-huh. Nice. Cool. But
still not up here. How did you get
up here then? Well Well, I can I
can tell you this storage? Yeah.
After
after his wife passed away,
(09:46):
we got together and got married. And we
we graduated
from education
in
early two thousand and nine when a lot
of people were graduating from jobs at that
time. Yeah.
And,
I've been on the Internet for a few
(10:07):
years looking at places, thinking about where to
retire.
And I had done a lot of trips
up and down the coast, and and I
thought it was beautiful. I'd I'd also lived
in Spain for seven years.
And one of the most beautiful parts of
Spain is the Costa Brava,
which
bears an uncanny resemblance
to the Oregon Coast. Let me go check
(10:28):
it out. Warmer down there. Wow.
And,
He followed you. Well, that basically, what happened
was I was doing a search online for
good places to retire,
and I saw this top 10 places to
retire, and they said Brookings, Oregon, right on
the coast.
Oh, dang. That's me. So we went and
checked it out and came came here for
(10:51):
Thanksgivings in a row, decided, yes, we liked
it. And when we when we retired in
2009, came up here. Rest is history. Very
cool. So now what do you do? What
are your titles and positions
in the the the Brookings Activity Center?
Well, I'm a board member. Mhmm. I have
been a volunteer
for
(11:12):
a number of things. I started off with,
well, I'll I'll get to that a little
later. I've I've I've been a volunteer,
receptionist.
I've worked with the tax pro program,
helping welcome people in,
and I occasionally interpret for people who come
into the tax program who speak Spanish. There
(11:34):
you go. Cool. So you speak a little
Spanish because you're kind of in Spain. Right?
I I yes. I lived there for seven
years and was a Spanish teacher after I
came back. Wow. Very cool. Not much call
for a Spanish teacher.
And you're involved there too. Right, Roger? You're
involved with the activity center?
I'm involved. I'm president this year Oh, well.
Congratulations. The activity center.
(11:56):
On that. And,
BOD.
I joined
the,
center
when I was looking for something to do
just after we moved to Brookings in 2009,
and I ended up driving for Kari Transit.
K. Kari Transit. My boss,
Joanne was Waspower,
(12:18):
asked if I'd like to become a volunteer
tax preparer.
Oh. Well, we had just been charged $1,100
to have our CPA in Southern California do
our taxes. Wow. We sent the paper down
to him, and he charged us $1,100
and $75
to e file our taxes.
(12:38):
And so when you're in That's pushing a
button. That's pushing a button. You know that?
Exactly. I I can do it. $5. Yeah.
Yeah. I can do it. I am I'll
do it for you. I am a tax
preparer.
And,
so that was a big yes,
and
volunteer work tends to snowball.
And so I, after that, became a
(13:02):
receptionist,
and we've continuously volunteered for,
duties at the center,
including what we do now, which is delivering
the Meals on Wheels,
which is the
jewel in the crown. Right. I like I
like its abbreviation, Mo, m o w. M
o w. Mills o. Mills o. Mills o.
Yeah. Mao. Mao. I think all of us
(13:24):
are seniors here except Robert Mann, who is
on my left, and we will be getting
to him in a little bit from now,
talking about the films and comedy of his
background in life. But we are all seniors
here.
And When does seniors start?
55 or 60, I think. Right? I think
so. How old you gotta be to become
a member of the activity center? 60, 55?
(13:45):
You can be a member at any age.
Oh.
But,
you according to the funding for
our Meals on Wheels and our,
dining room I think that's sixty years. Is
is sixty. Yeah. Sixty years. Alright. And you
you start getting your art magazine at 50.
So There oh, I thought art was 55.
(14:06):
But okay. Now we know. That's sort of
like because I'm definitely in the senior range,
and
you are too. Now you two ladies look
under 50. Yeah. Definitely.
For sure. But I I gotta ask this.
What are some
of the misconceptions
that younger people in our society and society
in general, what what is some of the
misconceptions
about,
(14:26):
well, about seniors and aging? I know it's
a little bit deeper question, but do you
do either of you chime in on that?
What are some of the misconceptions that we
get
as seniors? How do people judge us and
look at us? Well, I think we
think when we're younger, at least I did,
you you you first of all think that
you're invincible, that you're immortal.
And,
(14:48):
then
you think, well, yeah, I'll go through life,
and when I'm finished, it'll just be like
a long car journey.
And we we switch off the key, and,
it's all over. Yeah. Doesn't work out that
way. It gets more complicated.
You get
a couple of brain surge surgeries, which I
(15:08):
have had,
and I don't walk very well. I can
no longer get around the kitchen and cook.
Now most
senior citizens,
would want to live in their own homes
for absolutely as long as possible because we're
comfortable there. Right.
And the Meals on Wheels service
(15:30):
can
help in doing that because
they get
one
my wife is is better at Meals on
Wheels than I am, but you get one
good meal, a good nutritious meal
every day, including weekends. We deliver five days
a week, and we deliver frozen,
meals for the weekend.
(15:52):
And
that enables people to remain in their own
home because, you know, they can snack and
get some cereal for breakfast.
And
some of these people
do not see anybody
else other than the person that delivers their
their meals,
(16:12):
and
they like to see people.
Also there's a safety element. We had a
lady,
when she didn't reply to the knock on
the door when
the person was delivering their meals,
She looked inside
and the lady was on the floor and
(16:33):
obviously in distress
and a call to 911
solved the problem. We were told afterwards that
if it hadn't been for our volunteer being
there Wow.
That she would it would not have been
a happy situation. Right. Wow. Good story is
that. Right? Yeah. Now another story that I
wanna elicit, what's been the most surprising or
(16:54):
heartwarming
part of leading Well, that story right there
is pretty darn good. Right? But that
well It's not surprising. Well, I can There
was a microwave issue. Right? Wasn't there a
microwave? Yes. Yes. That was what I was
just thinking. There we go. Okay.
On our route,
a lady had
(17:14):
ceased to order her frozen meals
for the weekend.
There were very many poor people living in
Bookings Harbour area, and some people live in
trailers with tarps over the roof
because the roofs leak.
You know?
It's it's tough. Why should they be hungry
as well?
And Jenny inquired, and, the lady said, well,
(17:37):
my microwave
gave up.
That was why she couldn't take her frozen
meals for the weekend. That was that was
why she couldn't had no way of heating
heating her meals.
Well, we put the word around,
actually, in another association we belong to called
Curry County Cruisers. Oh, yeah. We know the
Curry. They've been on the show. Right? Yeah.
And,
(17:58):
one of our members
said, well, we've got a microwave sitting in
the garage gathering dust.
Would you like it?
And so we said, absolutely.
Well, when we delivered it, I understand that
the lady's face had to be seen to
be believed. She was overjoyed
at getting this microwave,
and she went back to picking up to,
(18:20):
having her weekend meals delivered frozen. Frozen.
Sweet. She's still doing so, fortunately.
Wow. Yeah. Very good. Good story. How do
you define neither one of you, Jane how
do you define a a life well lived?
And how do you see, like, the sinner?
How do you see your sinner helping singers
move closer to that idea? That's a philosophical
end, but what what is all this a
(18:41):
life well lived? And are the majority of
the people that are under your charge, have
they lived a good life?
Well, they're not under my charge, but we're
there, and we're we're doing what we can.
Yeah.
Basically, I think a life well lived is
when you are
meeting meeting your own needs Right. Making your
(19:05):
world a better place.
Right.
And,
As happy and healthy as you can be.
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, going back to,
not being surprised at getting old. I remember
when I was a kid,
people used to say, who's that old lady
in the mirror? And I go, well, of
course, you know. You've lived your whole life.
How how could you not know?
(19:26):
And then all of a sudden, I had
the same thing happen to me. I looked
in the mirror one day and dang it,
there was my mother.
And,
I kind of, you know, feel like I
need to tell everyone, enjoy
your youth,
your brains, and your health while you've got
them because
that you get old before you know it.
Right. All of a sudden, I I turned
(19:46):
around and how did I get to be
72? I don't know.
But it's
you know, I think some of the things
that happen that
people expect that when you get old,
you don't care. You're not worried about life.
What you're still the same person.
Mhmm. You still think you're the same person.
(20:07):
Your body doesn't always respond like it used
to. Right.
But
the person is still the same one inside
and still has this
Right. The the same hopes and dreams
even though as we go on, sometimes we
modify our hopes and dreams a little bit.
So you'll have you get people together as
well in the activity center. Yes. And it's
(20:29):
not just old people, right, or seniors. Right.
There's younger people too that can go to
that Yes. Center.
When when you do, do you pick up
the older people who don't have cars or,
you know, for for
an activity that you maybe
have there? I would just say, basically, bingo
night. But
We'd
actually, bingo is
(20:50):
Friday at noon, and Roger happens to be
the caller. Yeah. There you go. He puts
a he puts a Brit spin on all
the numbers,
which is kind of fun.
But,
for you pick them up? We we don't
pick them up, but
we are
the local dial a ride.
Cool. Yeah. You can pick them up. Sometimes
(21:11):
they do that.
For a turkey dinner once a month,
they come from some of the,
Humalese Homes, and they get they come in
on their bus
Good. So they can do it. And it's
a beautiful center. I mean, it's really you
know, it's it's an upgrade. Now I know
this show is being heard in Humboldt,
(21:32):
and Eureka. I know there's multiple activity centers
there.
Crescent City has one up and down the
coast. So this is just one of many,
and it's it's a real good one. I
gotta say it looks it's a it's a
big beautiful We're we're very lucky to have
it, and it's exciting to see people there
every day. And
I think the social needs
are real important.
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How do you how do you gather funding?
Well,
lot of things we
we have people who are trying to get
grants for us.
Roger can speak to that a little more
than I can. Yeah. Like the matching one?
Yeah. What's the matching fund all about, Nacho?
It's amazing. Fund
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is because we lose
$6,000
per month,
and that is obviously not sustainable even though
we do have considerable investments, but they're going
down
all the time. And as
wages go up, because we do have three
or four
paid
help.
And so
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we,
we lose $6,000
every month,
$72,000
a year.
And
we want the center
to remain right where it is, and so
we thought we would set an example. Hopefully,
people will contribute,
and Jenny and I will,
(22:58):
contribute an equal amount up to $50,000.
Wait a minute. You're matching funds. So if
I come in with $5, you're gonna put
in $5?
Yes. $50, $50. But did you say $5.00?
Yes. $50,000.
Wow. This is, somebody that putting their mouth
where their no. Their money where their mouth
is. Mhmm. Wow. Wow. Wow. That is amazing.
(23:21):
I've never heard of something Right. Match funds?
Yeah. I mean, we've had things like that
and various,
volunteer,
activities here in town, but nothing that big.
Do you are you always looking for volunteers?
Always looking for volunteers.
In fact, I got
when Roger got involved with the center,
he was driving the bus, and we were
(23:41):
eating lunch there. And then I discovered they
had this wonderful computer room, and I was
using their Wi Fi. And Sure.
Things just sort of went for a while,
I was teaching a computer class with Ira.
God rest his soul.
And,
then I started
volunteering
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being a receptionist.
And we've got the tax program. We always
need people for Meals on Wheels.
Gyloride.
And are you serving hundreds of people every,
every month?
Thousands of people during a year
if you added everybody in there?
Yeah. We,
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we serve an average of 63
Meals on Wheels per day. Wow. There are
three routes,
so that we can get the routes done
in a timely manner so as the food
is still hot. And is it free, or
is it donate what you can now? It's
a donate what you can. Pardon? We are
according to our funding, which is federal,
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and we get about $6,000
a month
in from that, which just about covers our
payroll.
And so
But you're still losing 6,000. But we're losing
another 6,000 because we've got to cover the
food as well. Well, how noble though. I
mean, that's I I dig this what you're
doing. And the matching program sounds too good
to be true. Now do,
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companies donate foods ever so often?
Yes. Or We've had Harry and David have
donated in the past. Wow. They're fruits and
bits. I love those. They donate
beautiful
food, Harry and Blake. Right. Right. They have
We might appreciate them. And Fred Meyer. Yeah.
Okay. Right on. Okay. So how do people
(25:27):
get a hold of you? How do people
check you out? Do is there a website?
Should they just come into the center? What
are its hours? There's a website called
chetcoac,chetc0ac,.org.
Okay. Chetco.achetcoac.org.
Okay.
(25:47):
Conditioner. People can call
on (541)
469-6822.
(541)
469-6822.
Okay. And they can come and see us,
and we'll
someone will be glad to show them around
the building
and show them the rooms that we've got
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available. We have meeting rooms available.
We have our dining room, which I think
can hold 88 people Wow. Legally. And it's
got a commercial kitchen? And it's got a
commercial kitchen. Right on. And people can rent
that for wedding receptions
or
any events, parties,
bar mitzvahs,
(26:28):
eighteenth birthday parties,
and so on.
And
the center is
open from,
I think the first people get there about
06:00 in the morning. Wow. And They're they're
all done. And they How do they get
in hold a hold of you if they
wanna donate and you're matching?
(26:49):
Call
or come and see us. Call the number
I've seen. (541)
469-6822.
Yep. Yep. And,
ask for Carol Owens. Carol Owens. Okay. And
she she is dealing with this as our
she's our assistant,
general manager. Hey, Carol.
Another volunteer,
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position.
She's there all the time. Alright. And she's
there from
about seven in the morning until three in
the afternoon. Dang.
And,
you can come and and,
Check it out. Check it out. Ask to
see her or
another board member.
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Glenda is our treasurer. She is frequently there.
Glenda Groff. K.
And,
Thane, of course, the general manager. Thane is
Thane Groff is the general manager. Okay. He'd
say And
you, as a person who donates,
can,
charge,
or count this against as a deduction
(27:56):
Good. Against your income tax deduction, which particularly
makes a difference at the state level. Yeah.
Because the
the,
personal deductions
at the federal level are so high
that it it will make more of a
difference Right on. At the, at the state
level of of taxes.
And a good way to
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come check out the center is to come
for lunch. We're open for lunch
from eleven to one, Monday through Friday.
And do come for our turkey dungsters. Coming
up on Thanksgiving?
Last Friday. Oh, Thanksgiving Yeah. To remind you.
They have two turkeys then. Okay. Is a
is a fundraiser.
We are selling tickets
(28:37):
at $30
per person
for Thanksgiving lunch,
and, those can be purchased,
from the center
as well. Okay. What's the address? We only
have, 5550
Chetco Lane,
and you won't see it That's 101, on
102. Just off the 101. Okay. Behind
(28:59):
I always describe it as being behind
the Subway sandwich.
Alright. There we go. Invest on. You could
reach out again to the Checo activity center
at (541) 469-6822.
I wanna thank both,
Roger and Jeanne Mitchell for coming in and
talking to us about and handling some of
the bigger questions about what you're doing, and
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thank you for what you are doing. And
thank you for this matching program. And, folks,
you can find them online at checoac.org
or calling them there. So thank you both
for coming in and talking with us. Thank
you for letting us know about this. Alright.
We are at that half hour show time.
Are we not? Yes. We are. We are.
Time flies when we're having fun. It's already
(29:41):
that mid break time here on the Doc
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(30:03):
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And lastly,
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doctor Gigi and yours truly, Jacques Kepner. On
behalf of KCIW,
thanks to all of you.
Alright. We've got the Very cool. We've got
(30:24):
the drumbeat going because we have a special
guest that we just came on our radar
recently, thanks to Michael Gorris.
But,
we've had many guests on the show. Mhmm.
And we often find that there's a certain
breed of creator out there who refuses to
be contained by a single medium or moment.
Robert Mann is that kind of artist. He's
(30:44):
a filmmaker
who can find poetry and panic.
You'll find out about that with his great
horror flick that he makes. He's a comedian
who sees tragedy as a slightly mistimed punchline,
and he's a visual artist who loves bringing
things together.
Robert, we found out, is a very intriguing
fellow. He comes very well vetted by many
(31:05):
folks here in our region and elsewhere in
the country. And again, special thanks to Michael
Gorse who gave me the tip that Robert
Mann would be in town and available to
do this very show and on more shows
on KCI,
W broadcast over the next week. So let's
dip down into the realm of comedy and
horror and filmmaking,
(31:26):
perfect timing for this haunted time of year.
Right? And get the backstory on our guest,
Robert Mann. Hey. Welcome to the DocuSign Radio
version.
Thank you for having me. Alright. I'm here.
Oh, please. Please sit down. Please.
Don't get off anybody, please. Here.
Wait till you hear what this guy has
done. Okay. Gigi, lead off the subject. Okay.
My question.
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Guilty.
Guilty. Guilty.
I'm guilty.
Guilty of being born where? Where? Yeah.
Mars of, the fur that was my first
stop. Then I went to Saturn and came
back to Earth and
was in Florida for a while and grew
up there and, it was a lot of
fun and,
then they said, Go west, young man, go
west. So I went to UNLV for a
(32:08):
little bit and Vegas. Vegas? Vegas, baby. It's
all about, you know, what happens in Vegas.
Stays there. Right? What happens in Vegas stays
there? Is that what they say? I thought
that was a church we went to last
week. Yeah. It was. Yeah. But by the
way by the way, I love your glasses.
See, I'm glad you noticed that. See, there
are broken glasses because Judy forgot to bring
my real glasses in. That's okay. What? Me?
(32:30):
They're kinda comical horror. I was told that
they're hanging on my face kinda weird. Well,
you know, they could be kind of a
horror thing too, actually, when
you think about it. It's better than two
pairs. Yeah. Yeah. Alright.
So where do you live now, right? I
live in Vegas back in Vegas. Back in
Vegas? Yeah. I was in LA for about
twenty years in Orange County
and,
you know, because of the nature of what
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I do.
And after I got, well really right around
the time when we were in college,
a friend of mine who was in college
with me,
we went to LA and we did a
little something at the Improv
and
we did an hour of theater piece and
we invited
casting directors and also agents. And we did
(33:12):
a little theater page called In by eight,
Out by nine. And you were literally in
by eight and you were out by nine.
And it was like just little vignettes,
you know, and we had about five or
six of those.
And people had wine and they had cheese
and crackers and stuff, so we set it
all up. It was all LA schmoozy kind
of thing, but just only those people. And
at the end of it,
(33:32):
an agent came up to us and they
said, Hey, have you ever thought of being
a comedy team, stand up comedy team? There's
no stand up comedy teams. And we said,
no.
Contact, I wanna be your So we had
knew nothing about it. Eventually
we realized that you couldn't do theatrical pieces
at the improv or the comedy store, laugh
at whatever it was.
(33:53):
But in the context of these little sketches
that we did, we had developed Piper and
Tupper. Piper Piper and Tupper were Which we
looked up on. YouTube? YouTube.
And Piper and Tupper were basically Simon and
Garfunkel only 10 times groovier.
That's right. They used the word groovy. Groovy.
Groovy.
And so we came up,
(34:14):
as these characters when everybody else, you know,
Andrew Dice Clay would be his doing his
thing,
Chris Rock would be doing his thing, Pauley
Shore, we came up in that group, Jim
Carrey. So we came up with all these
guys
and
they would do their stand up and then
all of a sudden we'd come in with
our beetle boots and our cords and our
turtlenecks and love beads and peace signs
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and we pretended that it was a concert.
So we never broke character
and we talked like this a lot. And
you were Tupper in that. Yeah, so you
were Yeah, I was Neil Tupper. Neil Tupper.
And you were the guitarist? Yeah. I played
the guitar.
Sometimes six strings, sometimes a 12 string,
and sometimes an 18 string. And you were
kind of the straight guy, but
(34:57):
and hyperbole.
We don't get into our sexual or religious
in
the Sorry, I didn't mean it that way.
No, it actually, it was a unique comedy
act in the sense that,
the audience was the straight person and we
were the comics and sometimes
we would flip flop and sometimes I'd be
the straight man and he would be the
funny guy and sometimes I'd be the funny
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guy. So it just depended on the bit
that we did.
And Mitzi sure saw us. We auditioned for
her because the improv wasn't our thing.
It wasn't our thing, man.
It just wasn't groovy. It wasn't groovy. It
wasn't groovy. It wasn't groovy. It was too
stuck up, you know, shirt and tie thing,
and we had turtlenecks, so we said, We're
not doing it. And Mitzi saw us, and
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she loves
comedy teams, number one. She loved female comics.
She loved things that were different. You know,
Pee Wee Herman. If you look at her
thing, Andrew Dice Clay, if you look at
what she had in her stable,
you could see that it was much more
theatrical in a sense. Harry Basil, which is
a great comic.
But yeah, she did a lot of that.
Edna May, who played a character.
(35:59):
Anyway,
so we auditioned for her and
she sat all the way in the back,
so you had to walk After you get
done, you have to walk all the way
through to get to
the exit into the hallway of the Comedy
Store. And her seat was the last one,
her table was the last one. So we
get done walking through and she stops us
and she says,
I loved you.
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You're like a breath of fresh air.
I want you as non paid regulars. So
this is non paid regulars. Paid regulars. Woah.
My god. So we go into the hallway
and all the other comics are there and
we're going, yeah. All right, man. We're gonna
go, non paid regulars. And then we go,
What's an unpaid regular?
And they said, Well, you can call in
(36:41):
for your spots on Monday and Mitzi will
give you all your spots just like regular
comics, but you don't get paid. And we
said, Well, how long does that last? And
they said, Well, usually two to three years.
Oh my God. And we said,
Okay, right on.
We'll do it. At least we get before
all these actors and other fellow comedians, right?
So
(37:02):
she really liked us. So with us, took
two months before we paid regulars.
Wow. Four
months, four months we were in the main
room.
Six months we were playing her Vegas club.
Oh, nice. How fun is that? And
isn't comedy the hardest of all the disciplines,
right? The Greeks always said, If there's one
thing, it's really hard because you can't make
everybody laugh. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Do you
(37:24):
agree with that? I mean it's Well, here's
what I Here's
my assessment of drama and comedy and the
difference. I think to achieve a pinnacle
for each category is probably just as difficult.
Where the big difference comes into is if
you don't hit your mark on drama,
nobody really notices
the drama.
You don't hit it in comedy and you're
(37:45):
all the way down to the ground. Yeah.
It's hit or miss. So there's no room
for error
in in that. Whereas drama people go, oh,
yeah. It was pretty good. Yeah.
But comedy,
you don't have the jokes. Oh, it sucked.
Right. You know? Oh,
So what are you doing in the now
here in the Pacific Northwest now? Well, promoting
two of my films, The Pumpkin Carver. Are
(38:06):
they comedy? No. They're
Slasher hacker films. Some some may say they're
pretty comedic.
I know our producers that invested in it
think it's pretty funny.
Or not.
Really? Oh gosh. So,
but yeah, the pumpkin carving we did with
Minka Kelly
(38:27):
and Airbnb
we did a couple years ago.
And the Pumpkin Carver is a classic horror
film. It's more campy though. It's fun. Very
Halloween ish obviously. Pumpkin Carver is spelled K
A R V E R. Yeah, that was
Pumpkin Carver. My producer came up with that
clever title. I was, oh, that's that's good.
And,
that's another story. Minka with Minka Kelly. Minka
(38:49):
before she was Minka Kelly. Before she was
big, we we had gotten her. She got
fat on you? No. No. Oh. That big.
Not that big. That way. Oh, I got
it. I don't
know. I'm trying to find comedy thing.
Get your face out of the buffet table.
Okay. So you turned from comedy to
horror film? Well, yes and no. I
(39:11):
Here's what happened. Yeah. I had written and
did a film called Trapped
and
it was a drama. It was basically a
drama. And this producer who produced the pumpkin
carver saw it. He had the same distributor
as mine and he had the same film
called Trapped.
Oh, definitely. And my distributor said, Hey, you
guys get together and you should make
a movie together.
(39:33):
So he saw my film. He said, Oh,
you did great on No Money.
I wanna hire you as a writer director.
So I said, Okay. He said, The only
thing is you have to make it a
Halloween film, Halloween themed film. I said, Well,
give me a couple of days. I'll come
up with something. I came up with The
Pumpkin Carver. And
so we shot that and it got great
distribution.
This was when, because it came out about
(39:54):
2006 or 'seven. 2006, we've done that. That's
all. Quite a bit. And,
we had 20 units in every Blockbuster.
And you would go in the thing and
just it was there in perfect position. It
made a lot of money for Oh, Blockbuster.
Is it the store? Yeah. Oh, okay. Blockbuster
the store. Yeah. Yeah. And Hollywood Video, remember
all those Yeah. Tower and records. Oh, my
(40:15):
gosh. So it it probably grossed at the
end of the day about $5,000,000
Dang. But the producers made such a horrible
deal,
we didn't get seen anything on the back
end. Nothing. Wow.
And so it was They gave it away
at the front of the popcorn. Yeah.
And so,
to get back to your question, I've written
about 40 scripts, but they're not all horror
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and things like that. It's just the opportunity
with doing a horror film
and investing, it's an easier
distribution deal. Are comedy and horror very similar?
I mean, they both pull on our emotions.
Well,
yes, but not in the business world. Comedy
is much more difficult sell, especially worldwide because
what we think is funny Yeah. The the
Brits don't really think, oh, they're funny, daddy.
(40:58):
They love.
There's definite difference
in humor across the Atlantic.
Across the pond. Across the pond. Across the
pond.
Some some jokes just go flat in this
country and you or you have to explain
the history background behind the joke. Right. Nitwits.
And Oh, it it it just doesn't work
well. I know. Not not at all. Not
(41:18):
at all. Monty Python, I I'm just not
all that impressed. Just just a flesh wound.
It's just a flesh wound. Yeah. There you
go. Perfect.
Oh. So so, anyway, so we we did
this, then we did our Airbnb and I've
written, like I said, 40 scripts. Some of
them are comedy, some of them are dramas.
Airbnb came many years later? '23. '23. But
in between that, I did a bunch of
other things. I did No. Did they actually
(41:40):
you didn't just write them. You actually made
a film. Right. Correct. Okay. Alright. Correct. And
in between some of the features, I've done
some shorts. Mhmm. And, one was a sci
fi, The Soldier, The Search for Existence. It's
very sci fi Twilight Zone ish.
I'm pitching one right now called Roberto's Friend.
It's family friendly. It's like bad news bears
meet spiel of dreams about Roberto Clemente coming
(42:01):
back as a 12 year old boy Oh.
To befriend
his best friend when he was growing up.
And,
he comes back to put him on the
right path Cool. So to speak.
Wow. But, yeah. So we're doing these at
the Redwood Theater, as you know, on October
30. And we're doing
Right
(42:23):
above us, our heads are here. We're down,
basically. Right. The Redwood Theater, as
you know, on October 30. And
we're
doing a Halloween costume contest. We'll do a
winner. And then the winners, the top three
will get like autograph scripts of the shooting
script of the pumpkin carver, DVD of Airbnb.
Those have posters.
So we're doing all fun things to do.
And that's happening on the thirtieth. We'll come
(42:43):
back. What is Manatee Films? Manatee Films because
I grew up in Florida. So I used
to swim with Manatees and my last name
is Mann.
Oh, yeah. With Ann, Brian, that's what we
thought. You were Germans. You were a doctor.
So, oh, German. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So,
my, my ex at the time, she said,
oh, you should just do a play on
your name, like, Mantastic Films. Oh, yeah. It's
(43:04):
spelled with Manatee. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. So we
do Manatee Films because I used to swim
with Manatees when I was in Florida. So
wait. So you invented that company? What did
you do?
It's a film it's a film company. Yeah.
Well, when I did Trap, my first film,
usually, you you kind of develop a company,
and you can either have a slate of
films or one film, and then you slowly
(43:24):
do that.
So
you create this company so that you can
get funding, etcetera, etcetera, and you can
distribute funding and you hire these people and
basically you, it's independent contractors and stuff. So
is that like a production field? It is
a production company. Okay. Yeah. We're like a
really
small mini,
(43:46):
you know, Sony or Columbia or, you know,
you know. Okay. Have you always been a
horror movie fan? No. No. No. But when
I was a kid, my mom was doing
a horror film and she brought me on
set.
And, that's I kinda got the bug and
she was direct she was directing. She was,
dating a director and he gave me my
(44:06):
first camera.
And from that time around, I just started
shooting everything and whatever it was, I would
shoot. People would say, Get away from me,
Robert. Get away from me.
People on the street, Hey, hey, how you
doing? And
they'd run.
And
so I was just trying anything I could
to shoot and see what would happen and
edit it. And
when I went to college, I said, what
do I wanna do? And I was a
(44:27):
business major. I said, I don't know. I'm
a business major. I don't think so.
So
I went into film. So you think you
went to LA and Went to LA. Filmmaker.
Yeah. Now what do you like best? Acting,
writing, directing, promoting,
starring?
You know, I started out I started out
as an actor, which a lot of people
do, and it just kind of morphed into
(44:48):
other things because as an actor, if you
wanna do a nice project for yourself,
there's an old saying, If you wanna act,
write.
So I started writing
and creating stories and things like that.
And I love
acting because it's the first thing, and stand
up was
so much fun. Right. Every night you're acting.
So every night you were just you didn't
(45:08):
have to wait for an audition. You didn't
have to, you know, wait for somebody to
want you. You created your own content. And
we did a Piper and Tupper short film
also.
And we would do all these little YouTube
things. They're all out there that we did.
So that was wonderful as an actor.
So it's a lot of fun.
And,
writing is, I think, is the most difficult.
(45:29):
It's just you alone with a blank piece
of paper in a sense.
The actor has the script and he has
the director. Mhmm. The director has the script
and he's got the actors.
The writer has nobody.
Writers, it's just it's just up here. It's
just what's ever gonna come out. What's happening
with AI? This is off script, but are
you worried about AI? What's because it's coming
(45:49):
up with all these writings. I think everybody
is to a degree. For me, if you're
doing an independent film,
I can write my script, go out, get
the funding, and we can go shoot the
movie. So I don't have to sit sit
there and say, Oh, my budget's gonna be
this. If we do an AI script like
studios are attempting to do, we don't have
to pay the writer. We don't have to
(46:10):
pay the residuals.
But it's a slippery slope and I don't
think it's all that great. Well, the writing,
that would be the only thing that could
be curtailed. Right? But, I mean, you still
need the producer. You still need the director.
You still need the actors. Actors. Oh, you
mean AI actors. Of course. They're they're doubling
that, you know, like crowd scenes and things.
Oh, yeah. You don't have to and I've
(46:31):
seen some AI,
videos, some little short movies that were all
done AI. It looks
amazing.
And you're thinking, okay, well, this actor,
let's say this actor becomes famous. Well, there's
no person to do the red carpet. There's
no there's no person to talk to. It's
it's it's make believe. It's not there. It's
not real. It's an illusion. Which is becoming
(46:52):
more and more of our reality is is
what is AI Yep. And just real news.
Is this AI produced? Or is this yeah.
Yeah. Are you tied into,
to the Wild Rivers Film Festival? Yes. Michael
Gorst part of it. Ozzy was on the
show last week. And our friend who's on
three shows, Dan Springen.
So tell us about your he might be
listening in today. I think he's streaming it.
(47:13):
Dan, Dan's the man. Let me tell you,
Dan, I met Dan
in 02/2010
at the Orlando Film Festival. I brought him
the Piper and Tupper short and he fell
in love with it.
And we actually went to the Orlando Film
Festival two years in a row.
And the second year, we performed live before
our screening. So they got Piper and Tupper
(47:34):
live and they got the screening afterwards,
and that was a blast.
And Dan has since come here to develop
Wild Rivers Film Festival
and that was in 2023
and he calls me up. He says, Hey,
Rob, you got any films? And he goes,
I wanna play Piper and Tupper.
I said, okay, but it's really not up
to snuff. You know, it was shot on
(47:54):
SD. You know, it's not the greatest four
eighty p. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
We'll get it on a DCP. It's gonna
look great. So, okay. Okay. And then he
says, well, do you have any other films?
Because he was just starting. So I said,
Well, yeah, I got all these other shorts.
You know, he goes, Let's just do an
evening with Robert Mann.
Right on. So that was on the first
one. So we showed Oh, yeah. RBNB and
a bunch of shorts and it was a
(48:15):
lot of fun and Airbnb,
let's say an hour and a half. Yeah.
They're both filmmakers. So the ones we're showing
at the Redwood on the thirtieth
are both features. And what I did was
I'm gonna do a double feature. I thought,
Hey, it'll be a Halloween double feature. I
got a horror and a thriller.
And,
you wanna see one film, you can. You
pay $9.
(48:35):
You see one film. If you wanna do
the double feature, it's like $13.
Come in, pay the 13, watch both of
them. Right. And call it a day.
And how since you're friends with Dan now.
Yes. And you just when did you arrive?
Just yesterday? I arrived
Monday. Okay. Well, welcome to our wonderful, wonderful
place. With this,
(48:56):
so many people staying at home from the
big screen in the past ten years. Right?
They're all subscribing to premium channels. Mhmm. What's
your what do you think is the future
of, quote, movie theaters?
A lot of people
are very comfortable in their own home entertainment
centers and things like that. What you miss
(49:19):
is you miss
the audience and watching something
with a with a group and sharing that
shared experience. There's nothing like a shared experience,
especially,
you know, in a horror film or even
a comedy. Because comedy, when you laugh, when
you hear other laughter, it actually makes the
film in a way seem funnier because the
(49:40):
more that's why comics hate to just perform
between, you know, a few people in the
audience. The bigger the audience, really, the easier
it is for stand up comedy. Right. Because
it's just a group laughter. But people are
so inhibited when it's only a few people,
they don't wanna laugh. You know, they're all,
you know We just went for a long
time. We haven't gone, but we went to
our Tuesday movie,
Senior Night. Yeah. And there was this group
(50:02):
in front, and they were they were having
a fun. Remember you commented on that? So
that was kind of fun to see them.
They weren't
they weren't We will go for special effects.
You can't beat a big theater. No. No.
You can't. And you can't beat the sound.
I hate to tell you. You can't beat
the sound. You can't beat the big screen.
It's right there. And if you're gonna see
something in 70 millimeter
or, you know, with anamorphic and it's just
(50:24):
it's gorgeous and and it's just tough to
beat. And like I said, you can spill
your popcorn everywhere and then that's the vacuum
that I play. Gum. You can throw gum.
Throw jujubes at people's back of their heads
and pretend you weren't the one I almost
did that to those people in front of
us over to comment in numbers. Is there
money to be made in the independent film
industry? There is.
Unfortunately,
(50:44):
most people don't make money. Mhmm. And it's
because of many reasons,
the least of which is if it's a
good film. My distributor was talking to me
the other day. I was in New York
and he's talking to me. He says, Robert,
I'd rather have
a really bad piece of crap film,
but it's sellable and I've had those than
an award winning
multi
(51:04):
and it's just because it's the business nature
of it, it's the selling nature of it,
it's what that is. And he says sometimes
there's a crossover, sometimes you can get a
really good film that has a really good,
appeal to a mass audience. But right now,
the most popular and easiest to make money
on is action adventure,
and then there's a big drop between that
(51:25):
and horror and thriller,
then
probably family,
comedy, drama.
So I thought I thought comedy would be
at the top. It's not no. Not group.
It's about horror. Worldwide. It's not at the
top. It's action adventure. So action adventure is
the biggest one. Because you think about it.
Because worldwide,
we live film is a visual medium.
(51:47):
And you can tell the story just by
shooting, and all this action. It's all stimulation.
And this is what, you know, the the
market and the Asian market, all these markets
that are visual, they love all that.
And
on comedy, if you wanna hit worldwide market
too, you should do a broader physical comedy
(52:07):
because like let's say a Woody Allen film,
he plays great in New York, plays great
in some other areas, and even Woody has
a harder time in a sense in America,
but then you go somewhere else sometimes,
and what those in jokes,
Roger will tell you that
they don't play, you know, certain British jokes
will play in a certain way and and
and
(52:28):
so,
physical comedy, if you slip on a banana
peel
in any language, it's funny. That's why Jim
Carrey Oh my god. Did really well.
He could do the all of his little
difold And his facial expressions. I mean, right
there, you laugh for it. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Now we went we we have noticed that
all these kids' PG movies are out forever,
(52:48):
and there are all these cartoon
movies. They're out for weeks and weeks and
weeks. Animation is a big Animation. Yeah.
And and you don't need an actor for
that, really. And then the movies that Voiceover.
You did those.
And then we have the movies that we
were looking forward to. We go there on
Tuesday, and it's gone because nobody wants to
watch a room. I mean, we have not
had a good spat of good movies recently.
(53:10):
Yeah. Where are you showing, you know, our
friend and colleague, her colleague, doctor Kirk owns
porta pints in Crescent City. Correct. And you're
gonna be showing it to South Beach porta
pints. Right. So after the Redwood, big double
feature,
Sue Wright had mentioned
Porta Pines
and she said,
We couldn't do anything on Halloween
(53:31):
here
in Brookings. So she said, If you wanna
stay one more day, Rob, Porta Pints, they
would love to screen your film in their
Porta Pints thing. And I didn't even know
what that was. Yeah, the brewery. And so,
yeah, it's a little brewery. So I said,
Okay, we'll just do just the pumpkin carving,
because Halloween, let's just do that one. We'll
go to the brewery and it's, you know,
just a big screen TV thing. And it'll
(53:52):
be kind of fun and they'll be part
of the Halloween atmosphere.
So I said, Yeah, let's just do it.
I'm here. Right on. It's a small brewery
in a big building. And
by the way, they have real ax throwing.
Right. I heard that. Drunk. I'm not drinking.
I'm not promoting that at all. But you
can drink and then throw axes. I hope
that Live ones. We should They're really shaking
their heads looking at We should do that.
(54:12):
You know, I used to throw axes when
I was a I can't wait. What happened
to the kid? The pumpkin parlor guy. Yeah.
Okay.
Can you can you put your arms out
there? Jesus can't laugh. You cannot do that,
and I can just
nobody's done it yet. Apple. So he just
don't we just don't know. Gigi and I
can both double team it. Right? I'm like,
(54:33):
okay. Hey. What are your three
favorite
films? My three favorite films? Of all time.
Right now at this moment. Yeah. Right now.
Right now. The Godfather, The Wizard of Oz
Uh-huh. And Casablanca.
Okay. Let me ask you asked me the
same question.
How about you, Roger? What is your favorite
films?
I like the the,
(54:54):
British ones. We followed on TV and what
and also went to movies for Downtown Abbey?
Downton Abbey,
which I thought was an excellent series and
a couple of excellent movies in there. Okay.
I'm hard to please on movies. Do you
need do you need any chime in for
you on your favorite movies of all time?
Oh. King Kong, Wizard of Oz, like you
(55:16):
said. I love
them. Wizard of Oz is like a perfect
film. It is. It is amazing film. I
loved Amarcord
by Fellini. Oh,
Amarcord?
Because you were in Spain. Right? Me? I
was in Spain. Yeah. Yeah. It's Italy. It's
there's a lot of similarities
culturally with a very sweet film. Isn't it
(55:37):
weird how sometimes you see movies when you're
younger? I remember seeing with,
Doctor Zhivago.
I thought that was such a good movie.
I see it now. It's kind of So
what are what are your two favorite films?
Yeah. Three there are three. We'll go with
the doc first.
I'm kind of not very film y. Three
Amigos.
It's a comedy.
Right? Galaxy Quest. No. Never heard of that.
(56:00):
It's also a And your Fandango, the one
the weird one you always say you like?
Oh, wait. Now you have me all. Do
you say yours then? I'm oh oh, night.
Shanghai Knights. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh
(56:22):
Ray Simon falls off a cliff is another
great one.
Off this beach cliff.
I like Wizard of Oz, sure. And then
King Kong and I have,
I'll say Doctors of because of Romaniac. That
was my mother's favorite movie. That's everybody's mom's
favorite, right? Yeah, Doctor. Jovago. Truly one of
those. My mom liked it too, yeah, I
think. And we're getting close to that closeout
(56:43):
hour.
I wanna ask you, what is your
What would you like your tombstone to say?
We ask My tombstone? Yeah. What is it
gonna say? Well, I'm being cremated. Okay. That
doesn't matter. You still have a tombstone. What
would you say? What would you like to
say? You know what? I got In England.
In all honesty, in all honesty, I don't
really care. You don't care? I don't care.
Yeah. He left the stage laughing. Yeah. He
(57:03):
left the stage laughing. Alright. No. Robert Mann
really is not here. That would be He's
over there. He's over there. He's over there.
He's over there. He's over there. He's over
there. He's over there. He's over there. He's
over there.
Fantastic.
Listen. We were looking forward to spending some
time with you. You're gonna be on tour
(57:23):
here.
You got a good guide with Michael Gorse
and other people here in the studio. So
thank thank you for coming on, Robert, and
talking about your life, and you're gonna be
on multiple shows. So everybody tune in for
what's happening. And we'll see you at one
of your showings here at either local Please,
please, please come on out. Everybody come on
out to
the showings, the Redwoods first, then Crescent City.
(57:44):
But,
it's gonna be a lot of fun. A
lot of fun. And the costume contest should
be lot of fun. Yeah. You're a fun
guy. I'm glad we, we're glad you came
on the studio, and we got again, thanks
to Michael Gorris.
Roger and and Jeanne, thank you for coming
on and talking about the center and your
incredible
it's just a wonderful opportunity to be matched.
So any money you might put into donate
(58:06):
to the activity center,
you are matching. I I have to Very
cool. Both of you. Yeah. Okay, doc. Where
are we? Alright. We're at the end. You
have
been listening to the Doc and Jacques
Variety Show on KCOW
one hundred point seven FM
in Brookings, Oregon,
and we sure hope you have enjoyed our
show as much as we have. Indeed. Peace
(58:26):
and prosperity to all of you, our guest
today. Thank you again, Tom Bozak, Linda, for
listening, and Ray Simon in the engineering studio.
Mail us if you know of any talented,
interesting people that are doing their best in
our community at thedocandjacquegmail.com.
And listen Right. For our new columns on
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now. Yeah. Peace love, everybody. Thank you for
(58:49):
listening. In. Thank you. Bye.
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