In this episode of the Doc & Jacques radio variety show with hosts Dr. GiGi Reed MD and Jacques Kepner, wedding officiant Veronica Schlesener returns to share expert advice on planning a smooth and memorable wedding. From guest photography etiquette to cost-saving ideas like combining decorative and sheet cakes, and more, her insights cover many […]
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Welcome
everyone.
You have now entered the cosmic radio receptors
of KCOW
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Woo hoo. Thank you for tuning into this
week's fabulous program once again.
I'm doctor Gigi and my cohost is as
always Jacques Kepner. How are you? I am
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doing fine. Greetings, everyone, and welcome to the
Doc and Jacques Radio Variety Show. I wanna
mention that you are hearing this live show
on KCOW
as aforementioned in Brookings, Oregon. That said, this
same show will be rebroadcast in exactly one
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That's one of our sister community radio stations,
and it comes on at 8AM that Wednesday,
next Wednesday.
And then it comes on a few hours
later at 1PM on my old alma mater,
KFUG
one hundred and one point one FM in
Crescent City, California. So now you know, doctor,
Gigi, and I have got your coasts
covered. Tovered. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. So we will
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today continue our unique new feature of the
Doc and Jack radio show, which is called
Chatting. Chatting. Shares.
Chatting. Chatting. Chatting.
This is a time when
Jackie and I will probe into interesting health
topics or other topics that are interesting,
and all they have to do is relate
to us humans and or the world we
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inhabit.
So
as Scott Key would say or have a
pencil.
And paper. In case you wanna write something
down from the chatting chairs. And we we
got Veronica in the studio. So if you
wanna chime in on any of the stuff,
you're welcome. Yeah. Please do. Because
we have got a lot to do. That's
right, doctor. Last week was our original chatting
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chair. Mhmm. And then we,
we talked about sleep. Yes. Ray Simon wasn't
here. He slept through it.
Hey, finally I hit a good one.
Our our sound engineers, by the way, are
Tom Bozak and Ray Simon. Thank you, gentlemen,
for being here always, as always.
And we talked about sleep, which was cool
and was fun. And so I said, what?
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I said, oh, we gotta have, you know,
we gotta have,
we gotta have something opposite of sleep. And
that's what Consciousness.
Yeah. You go I know.
It's the hardest subject that he could have
chosen, but he was not swayed, was he?
But we think we think we all know
it. We do. We think, oh, we know
it. So let's talk about what consciousness is
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and mind you, they're all theories. We don't
we know more about outer space than we
do about our minds, our brains. Although theories
like other things, you
just want to The it. The it. The
superconscious. Okay. Yeah. You start Well, I'll start
off, okay? Everyone knows what it's like to
be aware and to think and to perceive
the world around us. Yet when we ask
ourselves, what is this consciousness all about or
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why it exists,
we quickly run into one of the strangest
mysteries
in the known universe. What makes consciousness so
impenetrable
is that, wow,
it is something that all of us, 8,000,000,000
humans on Earth experience every second
of our lives.
It defies
simple explanations.
Right. Maybe it defies simple explanations, but let's
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give you a definition.
There are the definitions. I like definitions. So
let me read it. Okay. The definition of
consciousness is,
consciousness
is the state of being aware of oneself
and one's surroundings.
It encompasses
a range of experiences,
including subjective awareness of thoughts,
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feelings,
sensations,
and the external world,
all of which is facilitated
by our The brain. The brain. In other
words, conscious
individuals
have a sense
of themselves. Yep. I am, so therefore I
I think, so therefore I am, including a
sense of continuity over time and a perspective
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on their own experiences. So we know,
that there or we think we know, that
there are three different levels of consciousness. So
get into that. Well, we know there are
some. So there is the normal state of
being awake. What is what?
Which is also called being awake. Okay.
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We're awake and aware. And then there's the
state of sleep.
That's called the sleep. That's what we studied
last week. That was fun. Where we have
a reduced consciousness with altered brain activity and
reduced awareness. Then we cannot forget about
altered states of consciousness
such as when you're dreaming or when you're
under hypnosis
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or we're altered by drugs or wine or
Heineken or even meditation. Medication even. Right? Very
cool. Yeah. There's a lot of research out
there to give us some answers to solve
this so called Hard hard problem. Problem. It
is It's the hard problem of consciousness.
Why
so the question is why and how do
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we have these subjective
consciousness
feelings?
On the other hand, get this, the easy
so called easy problem deals with questions like,
how does the brain process information?
How,
gets different sensory input integrated into the brain
somewhere?
How do memories
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get formed? Yeah. And how we can selectively
focus our attention?
These are so called
easy relative to the hard problems
because we can actually
measure certain things. We can map the brain
with those questions. Easy. I still don't quite
understand what we're talking about here. But, let's
talk a little bit about the theories,
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about this hard problem as it is called
by someone. Can you give us a couple
of these examples, Dosh? Sure. Yeah. Let's do
it. The first group of
these theories are called
higher order
theories
or Okay. Oh, I got the hots for
you. H o t. Higher order of Theories.
Oh, theories. Theories. Okay. Suggest that thoughts become
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conscious
when basic perceptions
become
represented
on a so called
higher level.
An example
would be the following. You see a red
apple,
then you realize, hey, I'm looking at a
red apple.
So I'm aware of being aware. Yeah. Well,
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we all know that expression, to picture something
in your mind's eye. That's an idiom, right?
What the heck does that mean? Most of
us do it every time we read a
book, think about the past, or listen to
a friend tell a story. Most likely, we
take it for granted, but research
suggests that
not everyone is gifted with the power of
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internal sight.
As many as one in 50 of us
humans find it impossible
to visualize
any image images at all. Wow. Yeah. So
it is very interesting. Right? And it kind
of speaks against that hot
theory.
The fire. Right? Right. I see it more
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like this way. You think and gather thoughts
every moment with, I love this part, your
toolbox. Your toolbox is senses. What you're seeing,
hearing, smelling, tasting, and feeling
sinks down into your subconscious
mind, way down there, where it is all
assembled,
assimilated
and stored
like the raw data that it is. Yeah.
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Well, I think you hit the nail right
on the head because you just described Good
boy. The global workspace
theories. Oh, GWT?
Yeah. According to those theories,
perceptions,
thoughts, emotions, etcetera, become conscious when they make
it to a workspace
or you kind of call it a toolbox
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or something. Toolbox. Yeah. Yeah. I like my
toolbox. And can get picked up by any
other perception sense or whatever.
So for example,
the red apple that I noticed yesterday
comes back today in my memory when someone
talks about a green apple they ate. And
since my red apple is still on the
work on the virtual workspace,
I can call it up and combine it
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with some other senses like Oh, man. Yeah.
Speaking and explaining a scenario where I had
a red apple and it was yummy or
something. Okay. This is all going over my
head. The subconscious mind, let's get back down
to the easy stuff. The subconscious mind is
a storehouse of data that memories and experiences
of every
moment
of your life, my life, even your life,
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Veronica,
are stored in that subconscious mind. The subconscious
mind, it never what? Sleeps. Never, never. It
never rests. It's always on the job. It
controls the circulation of your blood, regulates your
digestion, and is the so called an autonomic
system right there. Autonomic nervous system. My heart's
beating naturally. My fingernails are growing. Yeah. I'm
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not really nervous. But, you know, it does
happen.
Now you're kind of leaning toward the next
in our last little I hope this one's
easy. Theory. It's called integrated information theory. And
to tell you the truth, all these little
things I don't know why they have to
have different theories. They can't they just combine
it and all kind of put it out
in a wash. But anyway, the integrated information
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theory
says that the consciousness
is related to how much information
is integrated
amongst the different parts of the brain. How
many parts of the brain talk to each
other and recall the information.
So the more information that is connected and
integrated,
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the more conscious the system is thought to
be. Okay. Everybody is getting this. Raise your
hand. This is a mathematical
approach. Right? The more the the more integrations,
the better. The more
lights
the thingy up on the screen, the the
more conscious. Right? Mathematical
mind. I I got my degree in English.
I did quite well too.
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Gassiz,
intelligent, I was an average student. I think
this is when the subconscious mind comes in
then doc. Yeah. Put in. It is said
that your subconscious mind is
a million times
more powerful than the conscious mind, the brain,
right? It's so much more powerful. The subconscious
mind is more powerful than you can even
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imagine. The conscious mind, people say, is like
the land on Earth. It's all the Earth,
right? It's all the surface.
But the subconscious mind is like the Earth's,
what's underneath
the surface,
all the way down the core. Huge area.
Huge. Represent a deeper,
less
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acceptable
aspect Acceptable. Yeah. Of, of, psyche. Yeah. We're
not What about you got I think you
have one more. Yeah. Let's do it. We
got plenty of time.
We are where are we? At four okay.
Okay. You don't wanna? Well, you told me
not to do it. I wasn't going to,
but then that's okay. Alright. Let's just do
this. Okay. I'm gonna give it in a
nutshell. Okay. It is called the reentry and
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predictive
processing
theories. So it's always a bunch. They're just
combined to these four groups. So there are
several. And the core claim of the reentry
theory
and the predictive processing is that the conscious
metal states
are associated with top down signaling. So that's
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why you didn't want me to do it
because now I have to explain what top
down signaling is. Yeah. I like top down
signaling. Top down signaling
refers to the process by which higher level
brain regions,
like where we make,
decisions and where we actually
know what a red apple is type thing.
Send information,
expectation, or context to lower level brains as
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in lower level as in, oh, I'm hurting.
I'm hungry
type thing, the more instinctively ones. So the
more this happens, the more top down and
up and left and right we have, the
more conscious we are, which is really similar
to our,
the integrated information
where they say how much whom has more
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integrative Sure. Processes. This one just says the
more top down, and we can make predictions.
We're learning. Right? The consciousness learning as a
little toddler,
we don't know what happens if I'm running
behind a car because I can't run behind
a car yet. Right? So I have to
learn first to run and then I have
to run behind the car and then hopefully
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we don't get run over because then the
learning experience is over. But so we're learning
by doing things and getting corrected. We're getting
more and more conscious.
Wow. Wow. Wow. Well, let's admit it. Consciousness
is
weird. Weird. Yeah. Next time, it will be
some Yeah. Not so k. Hey. Hey. Our
guest just fell asleep over there. It's it's
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hard to cover the Oh my god.
Consciousness in, you know, seven minutes or whatever.
We all think we know it. You know?
Oh, I know what consciousness and I know
it. I I studied the ego, the id,
the superconscious, but no, but if you really
think about it, you can't really define it.
I mean, some real smart people can, Tom
Bozak and things like that. I'm sure you
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can do it. But in reality, most of
us just don't really know what it is
or how it works and many of us
work,
not work it without ever realizing how powerful
our subconscious mind is. Right. Yeah. All right.
So although we may think we know our
minds, this show has just transformed you that
science has proven time and time again that
the greatest
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unexplored region of this universe
is inside of our own
heads.
Wow.
That is pretty, pretty It was. Well, I
think it was Renee Descartes that said, I
drink, therefore I am. Was that did I
get that wrong? Did I get that? Maybe
that was Monty Python. Sorry. Wow. Might have
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been Monty. I mean, I sorta get it.
You know, when we learn to drive a
car, we're we're totally conscious doing it.
The first few or three times you're aware
of everything, but then you then just sometimes
just takes over. Driving is a good example.
All right, well, we have a special guest,
a return guest today.
Veronica,
now you pronounced your last name once and
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last time I will get it right. Slaesner.
Slaesner. Slaesner. Slaesner. Okay. Slaesner.
Veronica Slaesner is in the studio today and
she is an officiant. Yes. Officiant.
And she is a reverend and she has
performed hundreds
of
weddings for people.
She has been talking to us from time
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to time, always interested in what she says
about the wedding process, about getting married process,
no matter if you're a first time newbie
or a 10 time road warrior like. I
appreciate the the optimism if you're your 10
time. I appreciate the optimism. I've been I've
met a guy, once, but I had four
wives, and he he complained it was all
their fault.
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Well, that's why he's had four wives. Right.
Hopefully, they weren't concurrent. Hopefully, it was one
after the other. It was consecutive and not
concurrent. So Victoria Veronica is back, and I
wanna say that Our third segment. Yeah. Our
third segment. Segment. We may have another one.
Here's the call out, everybody. As some of
you might have seen on my Instagram and
Facebook,
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we want to perform a live
Mhmm. In house wedding here at the KCIW
Studios
with, you'll be treated to everything, including the
officiant, the reverend. She will marry you. Yep.
We will supply the flowers or we'll get
them from, maybe Abigail's or some of the
other. We will get a cake. We will
get I'll I'll line up a cruise out
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on the ocean,
and to show let's see, out to the,
St. George Reef Light House with tide winds.
Or you can have them go across to
Misty Mountain, tell their friends. We got them
to Misty Mountain,
and they can go there and have a
good party. Yeah. Yeah. So Shout out to
Matt and Liz. There we go. Dog Park
Mondays just played last Friday. Right on. Hey,
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y'all. How was it? It was nice, right?
It was awesome. It was awesome. We had
dancers in that space. Oh, cool. Cool. Cool.
Cool. Well, okay. You've got,
you have been here. We are kind of
pulling it all together because we want to
do this wedding
later this summer. So with that being said,
Veronica,
do you want to take the thing? Gigi's
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got some questions for you. Beautiful. And we
will start and what are we basically covering
today? Well, last time, as you'll recall, we
talked about the most important vendor of all,
which is
the officiant. That's right.
I'm not biased at all. Yeah. And then
we also talked Right? And then we also
talked about venues for the ceremony. So if
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you missed any of it, make sure you
go back to the archives and check it
out. Today, when we talk about venue, when
we say venue, we're going to mostly be
talking about
the location for the reception more so than
for the ceremony
because we already talked about the location for
the ceremony. Small small reception could be at
at Misty Mountain. Big one could be at
Checo Brewery. Right? The two
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the two Absolutely. You know, the thing is
the most important thing which we talked about
the first time was your RSVP list. You
need to know how many people you're gonna
have because if you have,
a 50 people and the spot only holds
50, that's not gonna work. And vice versa,
if you've only got 50 and it's this
big place, it's gonna look like a party
nobody wanted to come to. Empty. And you
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don't want that. So And we got a
good hint last time with the time before
of if somebody doesn't respond to the RSVP.
Right? Correct. You guys, if you didn't listen
to it, go back and listen to segment
one, which was all about RSVP hack to
make sure that you get that number right.
So you always wanna ask for a plan
b for a venue if it's outdoors.
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I don't I got married the first time
I got married, it was
in July.
It was in on the Central Coast. They
hadn't had rain in months. They didn't have
rain later,
but it rained that day.
And the place yeah. And the place that
we had reserved could maybe fit
ten, twenty people indoors,
and the other
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fifty, sixty people were gonna be outdoors.
And I was like,
what? It's not gonna rain. It's not gonna
rain. It's July. It's not gonna rain. And
thank God,
because it rained that whole day, we would
have had nowhere to see people. It would
have been horrible. So always, always, always make
sure there's a plan b. There's somewhere we
can go inside, or I can get a
tent, or we can rent a tent from
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you, or whatever. But you should always have
a plan b. Alright. So venue.
What have we talked about the venue? For
the reception, because we already talked about the
venue for the so wherever you're gonna have
the reception. By the way, you could go
to KCIW archives and look up past shows,
and then click down on Doc and Jacques
and just scroll down to all of our
75 or so shows and you will find
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Veronica in here on multiple times. Alright. So
for venues, what are we gonna No. Venues
we just talked about. Yes. Oh, I got
it. To catering. Yes. There we go. So
a lot of times, the catering is included
with the venue.
It's usually included. But if not, then ask
for recommendations because,
you know, instead of starting from scratch, who
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are the who are the the vendors you've
worked with, the caterers that you've worked with
that you that you trust? But you can
also go to your favorite restaurant, see if
they'll cater. Sometimes oftentimes, they will, and do
a little taste test.
I've heard that. Like, cakes, they get a
little piece that they're Doing the cakes. You
know, food trucks
are a great idea, especially if it's a
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favorite food truck. Yeah. That's a great way
because you don't have to worry about any
of it. They're gonna pull up. They're gonna
have the food ready for you. They're gonna
serve it. You don't have to worry about
dishes. You don't have to worry about cleaning
anything up. So food trucks are another way
to go as well. I'm on Dairy Queen.
Just kidding. Have you ever been have you
ever been to a Dairy Queen? Can I
just tell you right now that the Dairy
Queen
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ice cream cakes Yeah? Are the best. Are
they? Really? Are the best. Yeah. And you
just roll up there, grab one, and go.
It's they're the they're the best. Few few
calories. But the with the catering company, what
I really want to make sure is make
sure that that you have communicated
what they're responsible for, what you're responsible for.
I did a wedding recently where the
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it wasn't communicated that they were gonna drop
off the food at one,
and the wedding didn't start till, like, three
or four in the afternoon.
So they weren't gonna put Sternos under any
of those for five hours. Right. And it
wasn't communicated, so there was cold mac and
cheese. Oh, dear.
You know what I mean? So it's those
little things that you need to hey. If
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you guys need to deliver this later because
we don't think people are gonna be eating
it, whatever. You need to communicate very clearly.
And that goes really honestly, that goes for
all the vendors.
Communication is key. Yeah. So can you communicate?
Can so do you need a planner to
even
do all that? Or So here so here's
the great thing. Yeah. You you a planner
typically is the one that's helping you
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arrange for all these people and get all
the, you know, your vendors in place, gives
you recommendations for all of those.
You don't have to get a planner, but
it it is definitely one of the services
that I offer is as your coordinator. Right.
So the day of you tell me who
the caterer is, and now I'm gonna go
and make sure that we've got this and
this is here and this is supposed to
be here and that's supposed to be and
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that's not supposed to come till whenever.
I'm so glad you brought this up because
can I just vent for a moment? Please,
Mint.
What? What? She's getting really sentimental. I just
need to take a moment to remind folks
that your mom
is not
working
at your wedding or your dad or your
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aunt or your uncle or meemaw or papa.
I'm telling you, I can't tell you how
many times I do these weddings, and the
sentence go, well, my mom's going no. Your
mom's not. No. She's not. The only thing
your mom's gonna do at this wedding
is bask
Yeah. In glory. Be. Right? It should be.
Dad too. That's it. Basking. That's the that's
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the only thing. In fact, she should have,
like, a little little title that says, I'm
basking right now. Right? So, please, this is
what your this is what your
and it so siblings don't count if they're
in the party and they're the wedding party,
but this is what your wedding party is
for, is to Right. To help you. Kinds
of things and to help you. They are
there to help you, not just
wear expensive clothing. So So make sure mom
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and dad Or not. Your main family are
gonna enjoy this more than anybody else, and
they're gonna have a good time. Exactly. Their
last time, they're fun to get rid of
you. Yeah. I was just gonna say and
work the little butt off to get rid
of you. Right. Get them out loud. You
know, some parents will do anything. It was
like, yeah. Yeah. No. No. We're cutting the
ribs. We don't care. We don't care. Just
get her out of here. We don't care.
I love now when you when you cater
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and the food Mhmm. That's wherever you get
it from Mhmm. That doesn't come with plates,
does it? So that's a different even a
different thing. They would they would have whatever
serving
so if it's a let's say I got
a taco truck. Well, this is obviously gonna
be a very casual wedding or reception.
Gonna be very casual because they're gonna have
those little those little,
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baskets that Yeah. You know? But if I
want plates, you know, that's again, that's something
you can talk about with, like, a food
truck or with a caterer. Caterers should absolutely
have plates. Oh, okay. Yeah. So they bring
the plates with the sofa. Should. Most of
the time. But, again, if they're not, that
needs to be communicated. Right? Yeah. That needs
to be communicated. And then then you should
get, you know, a break from that. Somebody's
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gonna charge you more if I'm gonna take
all the dishes with me. Yeah. Dang. Okay.
So what about
making pictures and memory lasting memories on all
of this? Photography.
Bertie Finch. Oh. I hope you're listening. We
love Bertie. Yeah. We love Bertie.
Yeah. So when you're looking at a photographer,
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there's lots of different styles. Photographers, just like
any kind of artist, there's lots of different
styles. Mhmm. You have some that are more
traditional. You have some that are more photojournalistic.
You have some that are
they're more innovative. They're creative. Here's what you
do. You ask to look at their portfolio.
If you like what you see But I
get it. Yeah. This is this is who
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they are. Right? They did these, and they're
showing you this is my this is my
best work. So you can talk to them
about that. Hey. It looks like you're kind
of photojournalistic.
They'll say, yeah. I don't like doing too
many pose things. I like to just catch
things as they happen. Or somebody says, oh,
I like to play with filters. They're more
maybe more, you know Soft or what? Creative.
Yeah. I like to do you know, I
like to put purples into the sky or,
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you know Wow.
Check that out. If you like it,
let them
do it.
Let them right? So don't be the person
going, oh, are you gonna do that? That
looks is that gonna be stupid? No. Yeah.
Yeah. Let them they they're the artists. Let
them have creative license. Right? Exactly. Give them
the creative license. You can tell I'm married
to an artist. Right? Yeah. Let them let
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the artist come out and be the artist.
But this, again, is a place where you
want to absolutely
communicate
with the with the vendor. Because, for example,
here's one of the things
that
folks hamstring
their photographer.
K. After the after the wedding, I want
a picture with my family, and he wants
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a picture with his family. Then we want
a picture with both of our families. Then
we want a picture with just the bridesmaid.
We want a picture with just the groomsmen.
Then we want a pic with the bridesmaids
and the groomsmen. Then we want some silly
pictures. Then we want some happy pictures. And
then we want some with this me ma
and papa.
Right? Okay.
Think about it. Right. You You got it.
Request
40 pictures
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if they take two minutes each. You just
took
eighty minutes
out of
Right. Your reception. Yeah. Meanwhile, your guests are
all sitting there. Right.
They can't eat. I mean, they can drink,
but I'll tell you this. They start drinking.
This is the reason why people get over
served because they're drinking, and they haven't eaten
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since because they had to get in the
car to be at the wedding at three.
Right? So they haven't eaten since, you know,
01:00. Right. Okay. Other stars. So
be judicious.
Be be judicious.
J u d I don't okay. So
She's a singer at Dog Park. So
selective.
Be selective of those pictures you want afterwards,
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and try not to hamstring your photographer and
ask for 50 pictures because it's gonna take
forever. Right. And let's let them take the
pictures as they come. Grab Meemaw. Give me
one with Meemaw. Right? That's fine. But don't
make it, like, because, I mean, it looks
like a lot it looks like a firing
squad. It looks like a lineup for a
firing squad, and the only thing that changes
(26:46):
is YouTube or is the same as YouTube,
and it's just all the all the other
criminals keep changing around you. So
try not to do that.
Have you seen a lot
of pseudo photographers that go with their cell
phones and just
fire away? You know, this is this is
a new this is fairly new probably in
the last five years. Right. Yeah.
(27:08):
Of
of the cell phone usage going up now.
So there's lots of ways you can work
with this. Again,
communication is key. If you don't want people
to take pictures during the ceremony,
then say so. Mhmm. And tell them why.
Because here's the thing, if you tell them
don't
and you don't say why, then what's gonna
(27:29):
happen is you're gonna have somebody go, well,
it's the why. It's okay. Just like judge.
Hey. It's no big deal. Yeah. Yeah. And
there's aunt Betty hanging in the middle of
the aisle when your photographer is at the
back trying to get this beautiful picture
of you and your dad. See. Why don't
you step out there now? There's aunt Betty.
And you know aunt Betty's picture is not
gonna be as good
(27:49):
as your as the photographer. I can I
can look up heads, and I can see?
There's lots of things you can do. You
can you can ask your guests not to
take pictures just during the ceremony or just
I saw one the other day. I saw
a video where they said, take all the
pictures you want as the bride is coming
in, but then please put away your phones.
Yeah. That's a smart idea. You know? So
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then now you don't have a sea of
phones
while the photographer's trying to get.
I always
I always tell the photographers
now there's there's sometimes there's restrictions from the
church or the the the venue for the
ceremony might say,
you can't take pictures from here, from here,
whatever, or up at the altar.
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You might have,
ministers,
priests, officiants, rabbis who also say the same
thing. Yeah. I was always
I would always tell the photographers, look. You
guys are stealthy.
You know your job.
You just do what you do. And I'm
telling you, hundreds,
hundreds of weddings.
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And I only had one.
I only had one that literally
shimmied
on his belly
up the aisle
from
the back.
Jesus. That was me. He looked He's on
me. He looked like he's going under the
barbed wire, you know, to go wrong wrong
wrong wrong. And
and and I'm thinking, what shot are you
(29:13):
even getting from there,
dude? But that but that's it. Otherwise, they're
they're good at this. They wear black. They
know what they're doing. They know they're trying
to heal. Wait. That was the photographer who
did that, not like a guest? No. That
was an actual professional
photographer
after I said, you guys are, you know,
you guys are stealthy. Yeah. You guys do
it. I
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wish. So yeah. So cell phones, you can
do lots of different things. I mean, I've
seen people, oh, put your phone away, but
then I've also seen the QR
code. Hey.
You know, take pictures. Take as many pictures
you want, and then you download it. Right.
QR code. That is funny. I will say
this. That's funny. Just make sure the QR
code works before I I did a wedding,
(29:55):
and the QR code didn't work. And people
are like, what? I wanted to do this,
but I couldn't. I wanna do it. I
couldn't. Alright. We we can just stop right
here because we are at mid break already.
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Theater. Yeah. The only thing I wanna throw
in there, do you guys remember those disposable?
Remember disposable cameras? They used to put them.
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Everybody used to put them on the table.
So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Remember? Exact yeah. So
I don't know if folks do that that
much anymore.
Did they do them at your son's? Yeah.
They did. They did. They did. Yeah.
So I'm like a three out of 10
on this just because most of the time,
the only people who pick it up are
the kids,
and they're taking pictures of their shoes, and
(32:05):
they're taking pictures of their noses and stuff.
So I'm not a big so Good point.
Good point. So it's it's and and I
think a lot of people now are doing
the phones to a QR code to get
that same kind of Or they had a
phone set up where you picked up an
old phone, and it said, please leave a
message for the newlyweds.
Yes. Now that was cool. I love Yes.
I have seen that. Filming messages. Yes.
(32:26):
OMG. Yes. You guys can, they you can
buy those on Amazon, and that's what they're
for. They're wedding they're it's like a wedding
registry Yeah. So that people can Yeah.
How cool. There's 42 messages. Oh, how nice.
That's lovely. Most of them. But remember, these
are suggestions always, always, always remember suggestions and
recommendations.
So I highly suggest
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that you do get a photographer, a professional
photographer,
because for a lot of us, it's the
one time that you have
a chance to take a picture of these
folks. Right. And it's a good picture, and
you don't have to cut yourself out or
It's an heirloom.
You know? Yeah. It's a well done you
know? And it's an heirloom with, again, Meemaw,
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Pawpaw,
aunt Julia, you know, the whole the whole
family. Right. Now are there are there movies
still taken? Do you still do the movies?
You know, videos people still do videos, and
so you can get a videographer.
You know, it's the same thing as hiring
a photographer. Make sure that you're checking their
style, check their method. And you know what?
I'm gonna say this about photographers as well
(33:29):
as videographers.
If that person annoys you in your initial
meeting,
if you're, like, they're too whatever, too
whatever,
do not hire them because this person's gonna
be in your face all day, and they
are just going to annoy the crap out
of you as you go along. So Wait
a minute. A photographer or videographer are two
(33:50):
different, the Huge picture
you know, talking and walking pictures. Yes. There's
a yes. Oh, yeah. Photography is still the
videography, we're referring to more like movies.
Sometimes photographers
offer both,
but sometimes you have to go to a
completely different entity. So just if you're a
(34:11):
an introvert alert, if you're an introvert, not
you, Jacques. Put your hand down.
If you're an introvert,
you may want to rethink
the videography because photography may be just about
as much as you can as you can
stand. You know what I mean? Having a
whole another person
who's filming more stuff is like, so just
kinda keep that in mind if you know
that about yourself.
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Ask the videographer what they're gonna film and
when, when they'll start, when they finish, what
they're gonna What kind of file does it
come out? Is it like a a a
something on the on the computer then? Can
you download it? How do you get it?
You don't get those
actual videos? No. No. Yeah. UHS. But a
long time ago, my German doctor. Yeah. Yeah.
She does yeah. She's showing I watched it.
(34:53):
Yeah. Anyway, I went with the Ritosaur one.
DVD? Isn't the DVD?
Even
DVDs are dead. Yeah. Usually, you get files.
Yeah. And then you and then you own
those files, and you have them for in
perpetuity, which is nice, you know, before you
get a video and those things died. And
so this is it's a nice way to
yeah. I I do have a funny story.
Yeah. A colleague We a colleague had a,
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you know, had the professional got married and
had the professional video as well as photos
taken.
And she went to watch the video, and
it her husband had recorded a TV show.
Oh, no. And she's just like,
what did you do? And he looked at
her and said,
what? I thought you watched it. Wow.
(35:37):
Oh, that's
boy. Boy versus boy howdy. I'm telling you.
Sometimes.
To the moon, Alice. To the moon.
So the next three vendors that I wanna
talk about, I kinda wanna talk about them
in a little separate,
area because a lot of folks consider that
it's something that they can DIY.
And I just that's fine. I know that
(35:59):
people are looking for their you know, trying
to save their in their budget, trying to
work within their budget. So let me just
kinda help you guys along with how you
can how you can do this and how
you can say it. I bet you I
know what's that the first one's gonna be
at something I close to my heart, flower
arrangements.
Right? Okay. First off, let me just remind
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everybody.
Do
not pay attention
to the movies
and their flowers
because they are spending
$50.60,
$80,000
on flowers. So you're not gonna make it
look like that. So Jeez. Bring the expectation
way down. Dandelions
for anybody.
Dandelions
(36:40):
and thistles.
Yeah. I like that thistle. And some fescue
graph. Yeah.
So I will tell you, I will fess
on myself that if there was one service
that I would I would have redone
from my first wedding, it would be the
flowers, because it makes the photos look better.
It makes everything
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it elevates the entire experience.
So
this is one of those things where
unless you have somebody in the family
who used to be a florist,
you know, that level,
please just leave it to the professionals because,
otherwise,
it's
just not gonna look that great, and it's
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going to, you know, it's gonna
it's just not gonna look that great. So
I would say in this order,
the
bride and bridesmaids
bouquets,
drop that's where you should drop the lion's
share of your money, then the guy's boutonnieres.
You can stop there and oh, the maybe
a little, you know, the boutonnieres for the
moms and stuff. But you can stop pretty
(37:43):
much stop there. If you wanna go to
Dollar General to get
the place settings for the, you know, the
center the center fake flower? If you wanna
do or you wanna do pampas grass, or
you wanna do these tall things with with
marbles or what you know? Right. It doesn't
have to be flowers. Correct? You can get
really creative, but there's just something about how
(38:04):
beautiful
those flowers look when you really drop the
you know, that's where you you spend your
budget. You can kind of skirt away a
little bit from
maybe the, you know, the the place settings
or the centers.
It's kind of like if you threw a
really swanky Christmas party,
and you don't have a Christmas tree. Right?
(38:24):
It's just kinda, woah. What's what's this?
I will tell you, though, that wood flowers
are a very they're an affordable
option.
They are beautiful.
It's really hard to tell that they are
wood
flowers. A trendy thing, although they're made kind
of the tariffs. Well, yes. And they've gone
(38:46):
they've gone $10,000
to bring up. Oh, well, that's cheaper than
plus, Jackie here, you you were the singing
florist. You were the singing florist. I was
singing florist, so I used to braid everybody's
garden for my flowers. Alright. And put them
together? What the That's how and I would
I had I had wooden flowers. Yeah. You
know, I got them at, like, a garage
sale or something, and I had a pile
of them. They were great. Yeah. Wooden flowers
(39:08):
are they're beautiful, and the cool thing is
you can save them. They'll they you don't
have to they'll last forever. Yeah. You don't
you don't have to worry about them
getting faded and Yeah. Like your love. I'm
co I'm kidding. I'm kidding y'all. I'm kidding.
Oh. I'm kidding. We have a whole bunch
of Ray Simon got into them and ate
them.
Woodflowers?
Yeah.
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Okay. So
music. Music. That's the next biggest one. Now
I
you would think I'm the lead singer for
Dog Park Monday, so you would guess
you would guess that I would say What
do you plan next? Go, this Friday at
Anoteca Eight PM. Yeah. Okay. We can't wait
for them. And make sure it starts a
date. Yes. We'll show you. You would think
I would vote for the band, but, sorry,
(39:50):
I gotta give wedding reception
music. I gotta give it to the DJs.
DJs can go across eras, genres,
styles.
They can
if Paw Paw wants to hear a special
song that you wanna play for him, you
know, he was really into
disco, whatever. Right. You can, you know, you
can throw that out there, whereas
(40:12):
a band is limited to what they Right.
You know, what they can do.
You could request. If you have a request,
they could just the teachers can just whip
it up. Exactly.
They usually don't Perfect pitch pitch and everything.
Right? Perfect. They usually they usually don't need
a break because they can usually do bio
breaks while there's a longer song on. Bio
breaks. Bio breaks.
That's right. And they as a really good
(40:34):
one, which that's what you wanna look for
when you talk to them, when you interview,
You wanna ask, how do you build the
party atmosphere?
How do you build that? And so they
should have a plan. Like, will I start
with these types of songs, and I move
to these types of songs? They should ask
you for what kind of music you like,
what kind of music you don't like because
it's important. And so do your homework.
(40:55):
You know, if you I've heard brides, I
can't believe he's playing. That's well, did you
tell him not to, or did you tell
her not to? So make sure,
Yeah. And DIY
I'm just gonna make a spot list. I'm
I'm just gonna put together a playlist on
Spotify. That is not the same thing. Okay?
That is not the same thing. And you
can do it. You can do it if
that's what you wanna do, but somebody's gotta
(41:17):
mind the stove. Because sometimes you thought songs
were gonna go over well, and they're not
going over well. And the last thing you
wanna do is two or three more songs
in that genre, whatever. You need somebody who's
gonna go, oh, that's not going too well.
Let me flip over to these songs. Or
let me start. How many look. If you
if you're a dancer, you're talking about the
reception at the end when you dance. I
mean, that's that can be three hours long.
(41:39):
How many songs,
you know Oh, you can make a long
you can make a long Spotify playlist. You
can make ten hour I mean, you can
make a long one. If everybody's I've always
heard this from bands. If they're everybody's dancing,
then they will play more of their dancing.
They'll continue that line. Correct. You wanna play
yeah. And so that's what I'm saying. So,
you know, you may be thinking ahead of
time, like, well, I'll just throw in a
(42:00):
couple Motown, and then I'll cut throw in
a couple of eighties. Well, the Motown goes
crazy. You start playing the eighties, and everyone
walks off. What are you gonna do? So
if you're gonna do your own playlist, I'm
I seriously,
put together, like, if it's a two hour
reception, three hour reception,
four or five hours
worth of music. Block them together by genre
(42:20):
so it's easy for you. And then you
could just if people are liking it, you
can just keep playing that, then you can
switch over to something. But again so Cool.
See, you need you need a friend who
this is this is how their brain works.
This is not, again, this is not something
where you want mom going, well, Lenny, I
don't know. I mean, it sounded like they
wanted some Chet Atkins, but I don't know
what they want now.
(42:42):
You know?
So yeah. That's cute.
So
yeah.
I love it. Okay. So What else is
there? We got a big one that starts
with a c and ends with an e.
It's it's Num num num num num. Yum
yum yum. And there's an a and a
k in between.
The cake. The cake. The wedding cake. Oh
my gosh. Okay.
(43:02):
So the cake. I am not a snob.
Okay? No.
From I am well, not with my cake.
Pat. Pat.
So,
cake a cake can be from a grocery
store. Cake can be from a bakery. If
you like how it tastes, then that's all
that matters. Right. Right? So go and do
your taste test. Now bakeries
(43:24):
can be
more inventive with flavors.
They can be more inventive with creative with
decorations.
A lot of times, a grocery store bakery
is a little more,
hogtied as far as, you know, well, we
can only do these kinds of decorations, or
we can only do these flavors.
(43:45):
It always has to say happy birthday. Right.
And it has to say happy birthday. But
if you like for so, I'm thinking of
right now, like, I'm thinking of
Costco
cakes. Right. You can order them. So so
people there are some people who they love
the flavor of Costco cakes. That is just,
like, I don't care. You could give me
a $20 a slice cake. I don't care.
(44:05):
I like the Costco better. Wow. So
that's fine. You know, you could always again,
if you wanna get a big old cake
and you wanna go to a bakery because
you want it to have all these special
decorations and all that, wonderful.
If you don't really care that much about
the cake that you just want a great
flavor, great tasting cake, you could go to,
say,
Fred Meyer. You can get a beautiful cake,
(44:26):
lovely cake with wonderful flavor, but it may
not have all those intense decorations. All those
tiers. Yeah. The tiers. Right. All the tiers.
Right? So here's a way that you can
also save money
is you can buy the sheet cake,
you know, you can buy the sheet cake
from Fred Meyer, say,
and then you buy a small, like, a
(44:47):
eight inch round
from the bakery,
really nice with the little two little people
on the top or whatever. Right? Yeah. Makes
sense. And that's what you cut,
and they whisk that away. And you guys
feed that to each other, and that's what
they whisk away. That makes sense. And the
sheet cake in the back
Yeah. It's pulled up. What gets they don't
even pull that. They just chop it up
(45:07):
back there, and all they're doing is bringing
out ice. You're right. In a way. Let
me tell you this. Make sure it's the
same color. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Make sure yeah. If you get chocolate, they
get chocolate. If you get vanilla, they get
vanilla. Okay. So
I,
when I was in Japan, I was honored
to be able to attend a wedding.
And they have these wedding villages, you know,
(45:27):
where you they just have room after room
of all these, you know.
So we're sitting there, and the wedding cake
gets,
wheeled in. And this is I am not
I'm not joking.
This is a
twelve,
fifteen foot tall Oh. Wedding cake. Right? I
mean, it is it is these massive there's,
(45:48):
like, you know, six foot
dowels
in between these these huge I mean, it's
huge.
And so they wheel this in, and there's
all the, you know, the, what is it?
The ice, the dry ice. So it's still
all the fog and stuff is coming around
them. And they sit there, and they
and they cut the little slice, and they
take the picture. And they go, oh, then
(46:09):
and they off they go. They take boop.
They roll it out of there.
It's a cardboard
cake,
y'all. It's a decorated
cardboard
cake, and it's just there for the show.
So I'm telling you, don't even worry about
it. Don't even worry about it. But I
will say this. I will say this. Another
wedding,
(46:31):
the friend of the bride offered
to
do the to do the cake.
A four tier
four tier.
K?
Four tier cake.
And the caterer calls me over just before
the wedding starts. She goes, Veronica,
what am I gonna do? I said, what?
She goes, there's nothing
in between these tiers.
(46:52):
There's nothing. See, usually, they put dowels. Right.
They put dowels into the cake, and then
they put a platform.
And then they put the next cake, and
they put dowels in that so that it
all stands. No.
This thing was just one
big cake
shoved onto I mean, I'm like, I don't
know. Take one big
one big slice, like a big old brontosaurus
(47:12):
slice. I don't I don't know. So that's
my other thing is, you know, you may
have friends who come up and say, oh,
I can do your flowers or I can
do the cake.
Just remember,
you get what you pay for. Right. Be
careful because unless your friends have done these
things professionally or they've done them before,
may not be you know, here's some other
(47:33):
options. Ideas. Yeah. The sheet cake by the
way, as a sheet cake, who cares at
that point? Is it Yeah. The end of
the thing? All I wanna know is, is
the bar still open,
and are they pouring? Because that's where I
don't care about the damn cake. So let's
talk about the bar. Let's talk about the
bar. The bar, and everything else. So it
used to be, I think, pretty standard, open
(47:55):
bar at a wedding. That was pretty much
you could expect.
But I'm telling you that they are not
nearly as
they're not nearly as,
typical
as they used to be. I would say
maybe 25%
more like, you know, our open bar. And
there's a reason for that. A lot of
(48:16):
people were getting overserved.
There was a lot of waste. You know?
People DUIs after And d u yeah. Exactly.
DUIs are worse, you know, worse afterwards because
people being overserved and then or, you know,
people
getting in fights because the whole inhibition thing
is down. Yeah.
Or, you know, or people getting really sick
because it's, oh, I'll try a mojito.
(48:37):
Yeah. Okay. I'll try a martini. Yeah. That's
right. And they're all you know, and then
they're throwing up because they've yeah. So a
lot of people And it's expensive. And it's
it's real I mean, I remember and this
was back
in 9090,
'19 '90, I think.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen. It was back in
the nineteen hundreds.
(48:58):
The the venue the venue when I was
looking around, the venue was gonna charge $500
for the keg.
$500
Hello. For the keg, which basically what we
worked it out to was that they were
charging us $5
a glass Yeah. For you know, so they
were charging us for retail
for that, you know, for the for having
(49:19):
that. So
just know it's not required. If this is
a place where you're you don't want people
driving home drunk, you don't want people getting
you know, having fights and things, just notify
guests ahead of time. You do wanna have
champagne, but also you wanna have nonalcoholic
options as well, like maybe sparkling,
Apple. Cider, apple cider, sparkling grape, that sort
(49:41):
of thing. You know, some things or even,
you know, soda,
sparkling soda. But notify the guests ahead of
time
and so that they'll make sure that they
bring cash.
Yeah. Okay. So there's oftentimes, there'll be, you
know, champagne for everybody, but there's it's a
pay for bar. Yeah. They go to the
bar, and it's gonna cost you $5 a
a drink. Yeah. I think everyone's pretty cool.
(50:01):
As long like I said, as long as
you know ahead of time, it just a
lot of people don't carry
cash or they didn't think to bring, you
know, a credit card. So just as as
long as you tell them that they ten
minutes. What are we gonna get into next?
What is this groom or tonight groom? You
tell me what you're talking about here. So
I have often heard
from grooms,
(50:23):
oh, yeah. I don't have to do any
of this when we're talking about vendors. I
don't have to pick the flowers. I don't
have to pick the photographer. I don't have
to pick the cake. I don't have to
pick any of this.
She just she said,
all I gotta do is get dressed
and show up.
And I'm just saying, gentlemen,
yes.
Maybe that's true. Maybe she's thinking less cooks
(50:44):
in the kitchen, and I'm gonna pick whatever,
and and I'm gonna have the mashed potatoes
match the bridesmaids' dresses. Maybe that's what she
wants to do. Okay? And maybe it's easier
if you don't have him there. But I'm
just saying and this is the analogy I
used before,
is that you could have
a you could have an an interior designer
and you say or an interior decorator, and
(51:05):
you say, here. Here's the money. I like
blues and browns.
Knock it out.
Or you could go and work with an
interior decorator and say, I like blues. I
like browns. I like rustic, but I don't
like mechanical. I like this art piece. I
like that art piece.
You're you're gonna have a beautiful home either
way. Right.
(51:25):
But the latter one is going to mean
so much more to you. Yep. And when
people come, they're gonna go, oh, that's really
cool. And you go, yeah. I picked that
out because
x y z. I did that because of
you know, I really liked it. And so
it's just one's gonna mean more. So guys,
step up. And ladies,
you know, stop pushing them off the the
(51:46):
the step.
Yeah. I hear that a lot that the
guy say, well, she just wants a beautiful
wedding, and I'll just I'm just gonna go.
It's whatever she wants. Right? I get it.
Happy wife, happy life. I get it. But
you know what?
Jump in. Make some, you know, make some,
some suggestions. Yeah. You know what I've heard?
The scientists have recently discovered a food that
greatly reduces the sex drive. You know what
(52:08):
it is? Oh, no. Called the wedding cake.
Oh, god.
Alright. Alright. Now just to summarize what we
talked about. What you're saying, step up to
it, guys. You know, I mean, look. You're
just gonna enjoy it more. I think you
I think they think they're going to enjoy
it less, and I'm here to tell you,
I have heard so many
grooms
afterwards
(52:28):
saying things like, hey. That turned out really
cool. Oh, you know how we picked out
that? That was really cool how that you
know, I really like how that worked out.
I really like how that looked or you
know? So
so, anyway, so in summary, I would say
communicate fully. Make sure that you're you're talking
that you are clear with your vendors
so that you avoid misunderstandings.
(52:48):
And this is where you get your bridesmaids.
If you don't have a,
a coordinator
like me,
then this is where you Hint. Hint.
This is where you engage your,
bridesmaids and your groomsmen, and you get them,
help me make sure that this happens. Make
sure this happens because you're gonna be busy.
(53:09):
Don't make your family work. Not me, mom.
Not papa. Not mom. Not dad. Like dad.
Good idea. Siblings, that's fine.
Be careful about allowing or asking loved ones
to deliver services. You will get what you
pay for.
And, you know, do the DIY with a
grain of salt. If you're gonna do it
yourself,
then just recognize that, you know, it just
(53:30):
may not it look professional. And if you
want something that looks professional, if you're going
for real casual,
you know, toes in the sand kinda thing,
then professional may not be that big a
deal, but you definitely want people who are
gonna show up. They show up on time.
Even if it's casual,
you still want Right. The cake to be
right. You want the cook you know, whoever's
(53:50):
cooking the food to be there on time
to you know, and and Right. So you
said if they don't have somebody like you,
how could people get
a hold of you? Yeah. Okay. Spell your
name. Give us your address. Give us your
email. Give us all the new stuff. Okay.
So so I am Veronica Slesner.
You may know me from, Dog Park Mondays.
(54:11):
My last name is spelled s c h
l e s e n e r. Here's
how I do it. Here's how I do
it.
S c h like I'm taking you to
school, then it's l e s e n
e r. So,
it's
Sherman.
The Sherman's name.
Yeah. So my email is revsch,
that's r e v s c h, like
(54:32):
I'm taking you to school, then it's les@Gmail.
But the easiest, the fastest way to get
a hold of me, if you wanna get
a hold of me You giving out a
phone number? Is,
yes. It's our new business phone line.
It's for dog park Mondays as well as
Okay. Cool. As, as this business. So the
number is (707)
951-0632.
(54:54):
That's 70795106
Wow. 32. And next time,
we're gonna talk about the rehearsal, why it's
important,
and how do you get through it in
ten minutes or less? Oh, we are gonna
have remind everybody, if you know of anybody
that is up for getting married on the
air Yes. Live show here in the KCOW
(55:14):
studio with the cake and the bubbly and
the the the the the officiant here,
Veronica,
you are gotta reach out to a docandjock@gmail.com.
Get out to us as soon as you
can. Thank you so very much, Veronica. We
will see you at, next ten.
Yeah. No time. Friday
(55:35):
night? Yeah. Yeah. Eight to ten. And then,
we just found out that,
for the Redwood Parks Conservancy
Music Fest. Oh, yeah. They're closing down. Right?
June 28. We are going to be the
closing act from five until seven, which I
love that it's not super late. Crescent City
that's got that It's in that that unique
building? They're closing it down? Is that what
(55:56):
they're doing? No. No. This is for Redwood
Parks Conservancy. Oh. And,
and it's raising money it's raising money for
that. Okay. And it's gonna be on June
28, and I believe it's from ten until
seven.
The the festival is gonna be from the
music festival is gonna be from ten to
seven.
And yours truly, Dog Park Mondays, is going
to be closing the show from five to
(56:17):
seven. Yeah. The next week. And where is
it gonna be at? I think I know
it's gonna be down by the marina, and
I think it's going to be at,
Porta Pint South. I believe that's where it's
gonna be. Cool. But you'll rest in the
city. Keep your eyes down. The thirty first
is the one to King Entertainment,
their festival. It was, like, eight bands playing
on Saturday, the thirty first. Okay. Doc, we
(56:37):
got up just a time for a few,
quick For what?
Fun time corner.
Advice to husbands.
Try praising your wife now and then, even
if it does startle her at first.
Some men
say that some men say they won't wear
their wedding band because it cuts off circulation.
(56:59):
Well, that's the point, isn't it?
Yeah. Okay. You got any good quotes? Yes.
A great many people think they're thinking
when they are merely
rearranging
their prejudices. Oh, we're back to thinking again.
Yeah.
Thinking one. It's all about the consciousness. Well,
what's the difference between an outlaw and an
in law?
(57:20):
Outlaws are wanted.
Oh my god. Hey. Before you marry a
person, you should first make them use a
computer with a slow Internet connection just to
see who they really might be. You know,
that's not a bad idea. You know, that
and take go on a trip. Yeah. Right?
Go on a trip and see how they
handle,
like, a late train and and so on.
(57:41):
Yeah. Stretch. Right? Yeah. Okay. What's, what's another
focus? Higher. Feel deeper.
Feel higher, breathe. Think
higher. Think higher, feel deeper. I like it.
I think I'm thinking a little higher right
now. Yeah. What do you what do you
call it? Hippie's wife.
What do you call him? Hippie's wife. What?
Mississippi.
Mississippi. If
(58:03):
everyone is thinking alike,
then no one is thinking.
That's true. If everyone's thinking alike, who is
that by? Some famous person? Benjamin
Franklin. Benjamin
Franklin.
Hey, anybody that believes in telekinesis, please
raise my hand.
I like that one.
Positive thinking will let you do any everything
(58:23):
better than negative thinking ever will.
Yeah. Right. It's kind of along the lines
of don't argue for your limitations.
Yeah. Because then they're yours. I spend a
lot of time, money, and effort Right. Childproofing
my house. Mhmm. But the kids still get
in.
I don't quite get that one either.
(58:44):
We both look at each other. We're not
always. We're not always got these total They
childproofed it and the kids are still getting
in. Yeah. Hey. Did you hear they busted
the, they they busted the, devil?
They got him on possession.
Okay. Well That's a good one. That's a
good one. And Ray Simon is just shaking
(59:04):
his head. We are done now. Oh, we
are. You have been listening to the Doc
and Jacques radio
variety show on KCOW
one hundred point seven FM
in Brookings, Oregon. We hope you have you
have enjoyed a fantastic show with Veronica here.
It was excellent. Peace and love. Everybody reach
out to us, docandjock@gmail.com
and pay, close attention because Tony Durso follows
(59:28):
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can email us at docandjock@gmail.com.
There we go. Thanks.
Thank you. Thank
you.
Welcome
everyone.
You have now entered the cosmic radio receptors
of KCOW
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
Woo hoo. Thank you for tuning into this
week's fabulous program once again.
I'm doctor Gigi and my cohost is as
always Jacques Kepner. How are you? I am
(00:31):
doing fine. Greetings, everyone, and welcome to the
Doc and Jacques Radio Variety Show. I wanna
mention that you are hearing this live show
on KCOW
as aforementioned in Brookings, Oregon. That said, this
same show will be rebroadcast in exactly one
week from now each and every Wednesday
on KZZH
ninety six point seven FM in Eureka Humboldt.
(00:52):
That's one of our sister community radio stations,
and it comes on at 8AM that Wednesday,
next Wednesday.
And then it comes on a few hours
later at 1PM on my old alma mater,
KFUG
one hundred and one point one FM in
Crescent City, California. So now you know, doctor,
Gigi, and I have got your coasts
covered. Tovered. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. So we will
(01:13):
today continue our unique new feature of the
Doc and Jack radio show, which is called
Chatting. Chatting. Shares.
Chatting. Chatting. Chatting.
This is a time when
Jackie and I will probe into interesting health
topics or other topics that are interesting,
and all they have to do is relate
to us humans and or the world we
(01:36):
inhabit.
So
as Scott Key would say or have a
pencil.
And paper. In case you wanna write something
down from the chatting chairs. And we we
got Veronica in the studio. So if you
wanna chime in on any of the stuff,
you're welcome. Yeah. Please do. Because
we have got a lot to do. That's
right, doctor. Last week was our original chatting
(01:58):
chair. Mhmm. And then we,
we talked about sleep. Yes. Ray Simon wasn't
here. He slept through it.
Hey, finally I hit a good one.
Our our sound engineers, by the way, are
Tom Bozak and Ray Simon. Thank you, gentlemen,
for being here always, as always.
And we talked about sleep, which was cool
and was fun. And so I said, what?
(02:19):
I said, oh, we gotta have, you know,
we gotta have,
we gotta have something opposite of sleep. And
that's what Consciousness.
Yeah. You go I know.
It's the hardest subject that he could have
chosen, but he was not swayed, was he?
But we think we think we all know
it. We do. We think, oh, we know
it. So let's talk about what consciousness is
(02:41):
and mind you, they're all theories. We don't
we know more about outer space than we
do about our minds, our brains. Although theories
like other things, you
just want to The it. The it. The
superconscious. Okay. Yeah. You start Well, I'll start
off, okay? Everyone knows what it's like to
be aware and to think and to perceive
the world around us. Yet when we ask
ourselves, what is this consciousness all about or
(03:04):
why it exists,
we quickly run into one of the strangest
mysteries
in the known universe. What makes consciousness so
impenetrable
is that, wow,
it is something that all of us, 8,000,000,000
humans on Earth experience every second
of our lives.
It defies
simple explanations.
Right. Maybe it defies simple explanations, but let's
(03:27):
give you a definition.
There are the definitions. I like definitions. So
let me read it. Okay. The definition of
consciousness is,
consciousness
is the state of being aware of oneself
and one's surroundings.
It encompasses
a range of experiences,
including subjective awareness of thoughts,
(03:47):
feelings,
sensations,
and the external world,
all of which is facilitated
by our The brain. The brain. In other
words, conscious
individuals
have a sense
of themselves. Yep. I am, so therefore I
I think, so therefore I am, including a
sense of continuity over time and a perspective
(04:08):
on their own experiences. So we know,
that there or we think we know, that
there are three different levels of consciousness. So
get into that. Well, we know there are
some. So there is the normal state of
being awake. What is what?
Which is also called being awake. Okay.
(04:28):
We're awake and aware. And then there's the
state of sleep.
That's called the sleep. That's what we studied
last week. That was fun. Where we have
a reduced consciousness with altered brain activity and
reduced awareness. Then we cannot forget about
altered states of consciousness
such as when you're dreaming or when you're
under hypnosis
(04:50):
or we're altered by drugs or wine or
Heineken or even meditation. Medication even. Right? Very
cool. Yeah. There's a lot of research out
there to give us some answers to solve
this so called Hard hard problem. Problem. It
is It's the hard problem of consciousness.
Why
so the question is why and how do
(05:11):
we have these subjective
consciousness
feelings?
On the other hand, get this, the easy
so called easy problem deals with questions like,
how does the brain process information?
How,
gets different sensory input integrated into the brain
somewhere?
How do memories
(05:31):
get formed? Yeah. And how we can selectively
focus our attention?
These are so called
easy relative to the hard problems
because we can actually
measure certain things. We can map the brain
with those questions. Easy. I still don't quite
understand what we're talking about here. But, let's
talk a little bit about the theories,
(05:53):
about this hard problem as it is called
by someone. Can you give us a couple
of these examples, Dosh? Sure. Yeah. Let's do
it. The first group of
these theories are called
higher order
theories
or Okay. Oh, I got the hots for
you. H o t. Higher order of Theories.
Oh, theories. Theories. Okay. Suggest that thoughts become
(06:15):
conscious
when basic perceptions
become
represented
on a so called
higher level.
An example
would be the following. You see a red
apple,
then you realize, hey, I'm looking at a
red apple.
So I'm aware of being aware. Yeah. Well,
(06:37):
we all know that expression, to picture something
in your mind's eye. That's an idiom, right?
What the heck does that mean? Most of
us do it every time we read a
book, think about the past, or listen to
a friend tell a story. Most likely, we
take it for granted, but research
suggests that
not everyone is gifted with the power of
(06:57):
internal sight.
As many as one in 50 of us
humans find it impossible
to visualize
any image images at all. Wow. Yeah. So
it is very interesting. Right? And it kind
of speaks against that hot
theory.
The fire. Right? Right. I see it more
(07:18):
like this way. You think and gather thoughts
every moment with, I love this part, your
toolbox. Your toolbox is senses. What you're seeing,
hearing, smelling, tasting, and feeling
sinks down into your subconscious
mind, way down there, where it is all
assembled,
assimilated
and stored
like the raw data that it is. Yeah.
(07:39):
Well, I think you hit the nail right
on the head because you just described Good
boy. The global workspace
theories. Oh, GWT?
Yeah. According to those theories,
perceptions,
thoughts, emotions, etcetera, become conscious when they make
it to a workspace
or you kind of call it a toolbox
(07:59):
or something. Toolbox. Yeah. Yeah. I like my
toolbox. And can get picked up by any
other perception sense or whatever.
So for example,
the red apple that I noticed yesterday
comes back today in my memory when someone
talks about a green apple they ate. And
since my red apple is still on the
work on the virtual workspace,
I can call it up and combine it
(08:21):
with some other senses like Oh, man. Yeah.
Speaking and explaining a scenario where I had
a red apple and it was yummy or
something. Okay. This is all going over my
head. The subconscious mind, let's get back down
to the easy stuff. The subconscious mind is
a storehouse of data that memories and experiences
of every
moment
of your life, my life, even your life,
(08:42):
Veronica,
are stored in that subconscious mind. The subconscious
mind, it never what? Sleeps. Never, never. It
never rests. It's always on the job. It
controls the circulation of your blood, regulates your
digestion, and is the so called an autonomic
system right there. Autonomic nervous system. My heart's
beating naturally. My fingernails are growing. Yeah. I'm
(09:03):
not really nervous. But, you know, it does
happen.
Now you're kind of leaning toward the next
in our last little I hope this one's
easy. Theory. It's called integrated information theory. And
to tell you the truth, all these little
things I don't know why they have to
have different theories. They can't they just combine
it and all kind of put it out
in a wash. But anyway, the integrated information
(09:24):
theory
says that the consciousness
is related to how much information
is integrated
amongst the different parts of the brain. How
many parts of the brain talk to each
other and recall the information.
So the more information that is connected and
integrated,
(09:44):
the more conscious the system is thought to
be. Okay. Everybody is getting this. Raise your
hand. This is a mathematical
approach. Right? The more the the more integrations,
the better. The more
lights
the thingy up on the screen, the the
more conscious. Right? Mathematical
mind. I I got my degree in English.
I did quite well too.
(10:05):
Gassiz,
intelligent, I was an average student. I think
this is when the subconscious mind comes in
then doc. Yeah. Put in. It is said
that your subconscious mind is
a million times
more powerful than the conscious mind, the brain,
right? It's so much more powerful. The subconscious
mind is more powerful than you can even
(10:26):
imagine. The conscious mind, people say, is like
the land on Earth. It's all the Earth,
right? It's all the surface.
But the subconscious mind is like the Earth's,
what's underneath
the surface,
all the way down the core. Huge area.
Huge. Represent a deeper,
less
(10:46):
acceptable
aspect Acceptable. Yeah. Of, of, psyche. Yeah. We're
not What about you got I think you
have one more. Yeah. Let's do it. We
got plenty of time.
We are where are we? At four okay.
Okay. You don't wanna? Well, you told me
not to do it. I wasn't going to,
but then that's okay. Alright. Let's just do
this. Okay. I'm gonna give it in a
nutshell. Okay. It is called the reentry and
(11:09):
predictive
processing
theories. So it's always a bunch. They're just
combined to these four groups. So there are
several. And the core claim of the reentry
theory
and the predictive processing is that the conscious
metal states
are associated with top down signaling. So that's
(11:30):
why you didn't want me to do it
because now I have to explain what top
down signaling is. Yeah. I like top down
signaling. Top down signaling
refers to the process by which higher level
brain regions,
like where we make,
decisions and where we actually
know what a red apple is type thing.
Send information,
expectation, or context to lower level brains as
(11:54):
in lower level as in, oh, I'm hurting.
I'm hungry
type thing, the more instinctively ones. So the
more this happens, the more top down and
up and left and right we have, the
more conscious we are, which is really similar
to our,
the integrated information
where they say how much whom has more
(12:16):
integrative Sure. Processes. This one just says the
more top down, and we can make predictions.
We're learning. Right? The consciousness learning as a
little toddler,
we don't know what happens if I'm running
behind a car because I can't run behind
a car yet. Right? So I have to
learn first to run and then I have
to run behind the car and then hopefully
(12:37):
we don't get run over because then the
learning experience is over. But so we're learning
by doing things and getting corrected. We're getting
more and more conscious.
Wow. Wow. Wow. Well, let's admit it. Consciousness
is
weird. Weird. Yeah. Next time, it will be
some Yeah. Not so k. Hey. Hey. Our
guest just fell asleep over there. It's it's
(12:59):
hard to cover the Oh my god.
Consciousness in, you know, seven minutes or whatever.
We all think we know it. You know?
Oh, I know what consciousness and I know
it. I I studied the ego, the id,
the superconscious, but no, but if you really
think about it, you can't really define it.
I mean, some real smart people can, Tom
Bozak and things like that. I'm sure you
(13:19):
can do it. But in reality, most of
us just don't really know what it is
or how it works and many of us
work,
not work it without ever realizing how powerful
our subconscious mind is. Right. Yeah. All right.
So although we may think we know our
minds, this show has just transformed you that
science has proven time and time again that
the greatest
(13:40):
unexplored region of this universe
is inside of our own
heads.
Wow.
That is pretty, pretty It was. Well, I
think it was Renee Descartes that said, I
drink, therefore I am. Was that did I
get that wrong? Did I get that? Maybe
that was Monty Python. Sorry. Wow. Might have
(14:00):
been Monty. I mean, I sorta get it.
You know, when we learn to drive a
car, we're we're totally conscious doing it.
The first few or three times you're aware
of everything, but then you then just sometimes
just takes over. Driving is a good example.
All right, well, we have a special guest,
a return guest today.
Veronica,
now you pronounced your last name once and
(14:22):
last time I will get it right. Slaesner.
Slaesner. Slaesner. Slaesner. Okay. Slaesner.
Veronica Slaesner is in the studio today and
she is an officiant. Yes. Officiant.
And she is a reverend and she has
performed hundreds
of
weddings for people.
She has been talking to us from time
(14:43):
to time, always interested in what she says
about the wedding process, about getting married process,
no matter if you're a first time newbie
or a 10 time road warrior like. I
appreciate the the optimism if you're your 10
time. I appreciate the optimism. I've been I've
met a guy, once, but I had four
wives, and he he complained it was all
their fault.
(15:03):
Well, that's why he's had four wives. Right.
Hopefully, they weren't concurrent. Hopefully, it was one
after the other. It was consecutive and not
concurrent. So Victoria Veronica is back, and I
wanna say that Our third segment. Yeah. Our
third segment. Segment. We may have another one.
Here's the call out, everybody. As some of
you might have seen on my Instagram and
Facebook,
(15:23):
we want to perform a live
Mhmm. In house wedding here at the KCIW
Studios
with, you'll be treated to everything, including the
officiant, the reverend. She will marry you. Yep.
We will supply the flowers or we'll get
them from, maybe Abigail's or some of the
other. We will get a cake. We will
get I'll I'll line up a cruise out
(15:46):
on the ocean,
and to show let's see, out to the,
St. George Reef Light House with tide winds.
Or you can have them go across to
Misty Mountain, tell their friends. We got them
to Misty Mountain,
and they can go there and have a
good party. Yeah. Yeah. So Shout out to
Matt and Liz. There we go. Dog Park
Mondays just played last Friday. Right on. Hey,
(16:07):
y'all. How was it? It was nice, right?
It was awesome. It was awesome. We had
dancers in that space. Oh, cool. Cool. Cool.
Cool. Well, okay. You've got,
you have been here. We are kind of
pulling it all together because we want to
do this wedding
later this summer. So with that being said,
Veronica,
do you want to take the thing? Gigi's
(16:29):
got some questions for you. Beautiful. And we
will start and what are we basically covering
today? Well, last time, as you'll recall, we
talked about the most important vendor of all,
which is
the officiant. That's right.
I'm not biased at all. Yeah. And then
we also talked Right? And then we also
talked about venues for the ceremony. So if
(16:51):
you missed any of it, make sure you
go back to the archives and check it
out. Today, when we talk about venue, when
we say venue, we're going to mostly be
talking about
the location for the reception more so than
for the ceremony
because we already talked about the location for
the ceremony. Small small reception could be at
at Misty Mountain. Big one could be at
Checo Brewery. Right? The two
(17:13):
the two Absolutely. You know, the thing is
the most important thing which we talked about
the first time was your RSVP list. You
need to know how many people you're gonna
have because if you have,
a 50 people and the spot only holds
50, that's not gonna work. And vice versa,
if you've only got 50 and it's this
big place, it's gonna look like a party
nobody wanted to come to. Empty. And you
(17:35):
don't want that. So And we got a
good hint last time with the time before
of if somebody doesn't respond to the RSVP.
Right? Correct. You guys, if you didn't listen
to it, go back and listen to segment
one, which was all about RSVP hack to
make sure that you get that number right.
So you always wanna ask for a plan
b for a venue if it's outdoors.
(17:55):
I don't I got married the first time
I got married, it was
in July.
It was in on the Central Coast. They
hadn't had rain in months. They didn't have
rain later,
but it rained that day.
And the place yeah. And the place that
we had reserved could maybe fit
ten, twenty people indoors,
and the other
(18:16):
fifty, sixty people were gonna be outdoors.
And I was like,
what? It's not gonna rain. It's not gonna
rain. It's July. It's not gonna rain. And
thank God,
because it rained that whole day, we would
have had nowhere to see people. It would
have been horrible. So always, always, always make
sure there's a plan b. There's somewhere we
can go inside, or I can get a
tent, or we can rent a tent from
(18:37):
you, or whatever. But you should always have
a plan b. Alright. So venue.
What have we talked about the venue? For
the reception, because we already talked about the
venue for the so wherever you're gonna have
the reception. By the way, you could go
to KCIW archives and look up past shows,
and then click down on Doc and Jacques
and just scroll down to all of our
75 or so shows and you will find
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Veronica in here on multiple times. Alright. So
for venues, what are we gonna No. Venues
we just talked about. Yes. Oh, I got
it. To catering. Yes. There we go. So
a lot of times, the catering is included
with the venue.
It's usually included. But if not, then ask
for recommendations because,
you know, instead of starting from scratch, who
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are the who are the the vendors you've
worked with, the caterers that you've worked with
that you that you trust? But you can
also go to your favorite restaurant, see if
they'll cater. Sometimes oftentimes, they will, and do
a little taste test.
I've heard that. Like, cakes, they get a
little piece that they're Doing the cakes. You
know, food trucks
are a great idea, especially if it's a
(19:43):
favorite food truck. Yeah. That's a great way
because you don't have to worry about any
of it. They're gonna pull up. They're gonna
have the food ready for you. They're gonna
serve it. You don't have to worry about
dishes. You don't have to worry about cleaning
anything up. So food trucks are another way
to go as well. I'm on Dairy Queen.
Just kidding. Have you ever been have you
ever been to a Dairy Queen? Can I
just tell you right now that the Dairy
Queen
(20:04):
ice cream cakes Yeah? Are the best. Are
they? Really? Are the best. Yeah. And you
just roll up there, grab one, and go.
It's they're the they're the best. Few few
calories. But the with the catering company, what
I really want to make sure is make
sure that that you have communicated
what they're responsible for, what you're responsible for.
I did a wedding recently where the
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it wasn't communicated that they were gonna drop
off the food at one,
and the wedding didn't start till, like, three
or four in the afternoon.
So they weren't gonna put Sternos under any
of those for five hours. Right. And it
wasn't communicated, so there was cold mac and
cheese. Oh, dear.
You know what I mean? So it's those
little things that you need to hey. If
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you guys need to deliver this later because
we don't think people are gonna be eating
it, whatever. You need to communicate very clearly.
And that goes really honestly, that goes for
all the vendors.
Communication is key. Yeah. So can you communicate?
Can so do you need a planner to
even
do all that? Or So here so here's
the great thing. Yeah. You you a planner
typically is the one that's helping you
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arrange for all these people and get all
the, you know, your vendors in place, gives
you recommendations for all of those.
You don't have to get a planner, but
it it is definitely one of the services
that I offer is as your coordinator. Right.
So the day of you tell me who
the caterer is, and now I'm gonna go
and make sure that we've got this and
this is here and this is supposed to
be here and that's supposed to be and
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that's not supposed to come till whenever.
I'm so glad you brought this up because
can I just vent for a moment? Please,
Mint.
What? What? She's getting really sentimental. I just
need to take a moment to remind folks
that your mom
is not
working
at your wedding or your dad or your
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aunt or your uncle or meemaw or papa.
I'm telling you, I can't tell you how
many times I do these weddings, and the
sentence go, well, my mom's going no. Your
mom's not. No. She's not. The only thing
your mom's gonna do at this wedding
is bask
Yeah. In glory. Be. Right? It should be.
Dad too. That's it. Basking. That's the that's
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the only thing. In fact, she should have,
like, a little little title that says, I'm
basking right now. Right? So, please, this is
what your this is what your
and it so siblings don't count if they're
in the party and they're the wedding party,
but this is what your wedding party is
for, is to Right. To help you. Kinds
of things and to help you. They are
there to help you, not just
wear expensive clothing. So So make sure mom
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and dad Or not. Your main family are
gonna enjoy this more than anybody else, and
they're gonna have a good time. Exactly. Their
last time, they're fun to get rid of
you. Yeah. I was just gonna say and
work the little butt off to get rid
of you. Right. Get them out loud. You
know, some parents will do anything. It was
like, yeah. Yeah. No. No. We're cutting the
ribs. We don't care. We don't care. Just
get her out of here. We don't care.
I love now when you when you cater
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and the food Mhmm. That's wherever you get
it from Mhmm. That doesn't come with plates,
does it? So that's a different even a
different thing. They would they would have whatever
serving
so if it's a let's say I got
a taco truck. Well, this is obviously gonna
be a very casual wedding or reception.
Gonna be very casual because they're gonna have
those little those little,
(23:18):
baskets that Yeah. You know? But if I
want plates, you know, that's again, that's something
you can talk about with, like, a food
truck or with a caterer. Caterers should absolutely
have plates. Oh, okay. Yeah. So they bring
the plates with the sofa. Should. Most of
the time. But, again, if they're not, that
needs to be communicated. Right? Yeah. That needs
to be communicated. And then then you should
get, you know, a break from that. Somebody's
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gonna charge you more if I'm gonna take
all the dishes with me. Yeah. Dang. Okay.
So what about
making pictures and memory lasting memories on all
of this? Photography.
Bertie Finch. Oh. I hope you're listening. We
love Bertie. Yeah. We love Bertie.
Yeah. So when you're looking at a photographer,
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there's lots of different styles. Photographers, just like
any kind of artist, there's lots of different
styles. Mhmm. You have some that are more
traditional. You have some that are more photojournalistic.
You have some that are
they're more innovative. They're creative. Here's what you
do. You ask to look at their portfolio.
If you like what you see But I
get it. Yeah. This is this is who
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they are. Right? They did these, and they're
showing you this is my this is my
best work. So you can talk to them
about that. Hey. It looks like you're kind
of photojournalistic.
They'll say, yeah. I don't like doing too
many pose things. I like to just catch
things as they happen. Or somebody says, oh,
I like to play with filters. They're more
maybe more, you know Soft or what? Creative.
Yeah. I like to do you know, I
like to put purples into the sky or,
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you know Wow.
Check that out. If you like it,
let them
do it.
Let them right? So don't be the person
going, oh, are you gonna do that? That
looks is that gonna be stupid? No. Yeah.
Yeah. Let them they they're the artists. Let
them have creative license. Right? Exactly. Give them
the creative license. You can tell I'm married
to an artist. Right? Yeah. Let them let
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the artist come out and be the artist.
But this, again, is a place where you
want to absolutely
communicate
with the with the vendor. Because, for example,
here's one of the things
that
folks hamstring
their photographer.
K. After the after the wedding, I want
a picture with my family, and he wants
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a picture with his family. Then we want
a picture with both of our families. Then
we want a picture with just the bridesmaid.
We want a picture with just the groomsmen.
Then we want a pic with the bridesmaids
and the groomsmen. Then we want some silly
pictures. Then we want some happy pictures. And
then we want some with this me ma
and papa.
Right? Okay.
Think about it. Right. You You got it.
Request
40 pictures
(25:45):
if they take two minutes each. You just
took
eighty minutes
out of
Right. Your reception. Yeah. Meanwhile, your guests are
all sitting there. Right.
They can't eat. I mean, they can drink,
but I'll tell you this. They start drinking.
This is the reason why people get over
served because they're drinking, and they haven't eaten
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since because they had to get in the
car to be at the wedding at three.
Right? So they haven't eaten since, you know,
01:00. Right. Okay. Other stars. So
be judicious.
Be be judicious.
J u d I don't okay. So
She's a singer at Dog Park. So
selective.
Be selective of those pictures you want afterwards,
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and try not to hamstring your photographer and
ask for 50 pictures because it's gonna take
forever. Right. And let's let them take the
pictures as they come. Grab Meemaw. Give me
one with Meemaw. Right? That's fine. But don't
make it, like, because, I mean, it looks
like a lot it looks like a firing
squad. It looks like a lineup for a
firing squad, and the only thing that changes
(26:46):
is YouTube or is the same as YouTube,
and it's just all the all the other
criminals keep changing around you. So
try not to do that.
Have you seen a lot
of pseudo photographers that go with their cell
phones and just
fire away? You know, this is this is
a new this is fairly new probably in
the last five years. Right. Yeah.
(27:08):
Of
of the cell phone usage going up now.
So there's lots of ways you can work
with this. Again,
communication is key. If you don't want people
to take pictures during the ceremony,
then say so. Mhmm. And tell them why.
Because here's the thing, if you tell them
don't
and you don't say why, then what's gonna
(27:29):
happen is you're gonna have somebody go, well,
it's the why. It's okay. Just like judge.
Hey. It's no big deal. Yeah. Yeah. And
there's aunt Betty hanging in the middle of
the aisle when your photographer is at the
back trying to get this beautiful picture
of you and your dad. See. Why don't
you step out there now? There's aunt Betty.
And you know aunt Betty's picture is not
gonna be as good
(27:49):
as your as the photographer. I can I
can look up heads, and I can see?
There's lots of things you can do. You
can you can ask your guests not to
take pictures just during the ceremony or just
I saw one the other day. I saw
a video where they said, take all the
pictures you want as the bride is coming
in, but then please put away your phones.
Yeah. That's a smart idea. You know? So
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then now you don't have a sea of
phones
while the photographer's trying to get.
I always
I always tell the photographers
now there's there's sometimes there's restrictions from the
church or the the the venue for the
ceremony might say,
you can't take pictures from here, from here,
whatever, or up at the altar.
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You might have,
ministers,
priests, officiants, rabbis who also say the same
thing. Yeah. I was always
I would always tell the photographers, look. You
guys are stealthy.
You know your job.
You just do what you do. And I'm
telling you, hundreds,
hundreds of weddings.
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And I only had one.
I only had one that literally
shimmied
on his belly
up the aisle
from
the back.
Jesus. That was me. He looked He's on
me. He looked like he's going under the
barbed wire, you know, to go wrong wrong
wrong wrong. And
and and I'm thinking, what shot are you
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even getting from there,
dude? But that but that's it. Otherwise, they're
they're good at this. They wear black. They
know what they're doing. They know they're trying
to heal. Wait. That was the photographer who
did that, not like a guest? No. That
was an actual professional
photographer
after I said, you guys are, you know,
you guys are stealthy. Yeah. You guys do
it. I
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wish. So yeah. So cell phones, you can
do lots of different things. I mean, I've
seen people, oh, put your phone away, but
then I've also seen the QR
code. Hey.
You know, take pictures. Take as many pictures
you want, and then you download it. Right.
QR code. That is funny. I will say
this. That's funny. Just make sure the QR
code works before I I did a wedding,
(29:55):
and the QR code didn't work. And people
are like, what? I wanted to do this,
but I couldn't. I wanna do it. I
couldn't. Alright. We we can just stop right
here because we are at mid break already.
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Theater. Yeah. The only thing I wanna throw
in there, do you guys remember those disposable?
Remember disposable cameras? They used to put them.
(31:44):
Everybody used to put them on the table.
So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Remember? Exact yeah. So
I don't know if folks do that that
much anymore.
Did they do them at your son's? Yeah.
They did. They did. They did. Yeah.
So I'm like a three out of 10
on this just because most of the time,
the only people who pick it up are
the kids,
and they're taking pictures of their shoes, and
(32:05):
they're taking pictures of their noses and stuff.
So I'm not a big so Good point.
Good point. So it's it's and and I
think a lot of people now are doing
the phones to a QR code to get
that same kind of Or they had a
phone set up where you picked up an
old phone, and it said, please leave a
message for the newlyweds.
Yes. Now that was cool. I love Yes.
I have seen that. Filming messages. Yes.
(32:26):
OMG. Yes. You guys can, they you can
buy those on Amazon, and that's what they're
for. They're wedding they're it's like a wedding
registry Yeah. So that people can Yeah.
How cool. There's 42 messages. Oh, how nice.
That's lovely. Most of them. But remember, these
are suggestions always, always, always remember suggestions and
recommendations.
So I highly suggest
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that you do get a photographer, a professional
photographer,
because for a lot of us, it's the
one time that you have
a chance to take a picture of these
folks. Right. And it's a good picture, and
you don't have to cut yourself out or
It's an heirloom.
You know? Yeah. It's a well done you
know? And it's an heirloom with, again, Meemaw,
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Pawpaw,
aunt Julia, you know, the whole the whole
family. Right. Now are there are there movies
still taken? Do you still do the movies?
You know, videos people still do videos, and
so you can get a videographer.
You know, it's the same thing as hiring
a photographer. Make sure that you're checking their
style, check their method. And you know what?
I'm gonna say this about photographers as well
(33:29):
as videographers.
If that person annoys you in your initial
meeting,
if you're, like, they're too whatever, too
whatever,
do not hire them because this person's gonna
be in your face all day, and they
are just going to annoy the crap out
of you as you go along. So Wait
a minute. A photographer or videographer are two
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different, the Huge picture
you know, talking and walking pictures. Yes. There's
a yes. Oh, yeah. Photography is still the
videography, we're referring to more like movies.
Sometimes photographers
offer both,
but sometimes you have to go to a
completely different entity. So just if you're a
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an introvert alert, if you're an introvert, not
you, Jacques. Put your hand down.
If you're an introvert,
you may want to rethink
the videography because photography may be just about
as much as you can as you can
stand. You know what I mean? Having a
whole another person
who's filming more stuff is like, so just
kinda keep that in mind if you know
that about yourself.
(34:32):
Ask the videographer what they're gonna film and
when, when they'll start, when they finish, what
they're gonna What kind of file does it
come out? Is it like a a a
something on the on the computer then? Can
you download it? How do you get it?
You don't get those
actual videos? No. No. Yeah. UHS. But a
long time ago, my German doctor. Yeah. Yeah.
She does yeah. She's showing I watched it.
(34:53):
Yeah. Anyway, I went with the Ritosaur one.
DVD? Isn't the DVD?
Even
DVDs are dead. Yeah. Usually, you get files.
Yeah. And then you and then you own
those files, and you have them for in
perpetuity, which is nice, you know, before you
get a video and those things died. And
so this is it's a nice way to
yeah. I I do have a funny story.
Yeah. A colleague We a colleague had a,
(35:15):
you know, had the professional got married and
had the professional video as well as photos
taken.
And she went to watch the video, and
it her husband had recorded a TV show.
Oh, no. And she's just like,
what did you do? And he looked at
her and said,
what? I thought you watched it. Wow.
(35:37):
Oh, that's
boy. Boy versus boy howdy. I'm telling you.
Sometimes.
To the moon, Alice. To the moon.
So the next three vendors that I wanna
talk about, I kinda wanna talk about them
in a little separate,
area because a lot of folks consider that
it's something that they can DIY.
And I just that's fine. I know that
(35:59):
people are looking for their you know, trying
to save their in their budget, trying to
work within their budget. So let me just
kinda help you guys along with how you
can how you can do this and how
you can say it. I bet you I
know what's that the first one's gonna be
at something I close to my heart, flower
arrangements.
Right? Okay. First off, let me just remind
(36:20):
everybody.
Do
not pay attention
to the movies
and their flowers
because they are spending
$50.60,
$80,000
on flowers. So you're not gonna make it
look like that. So Jeez. Bring the expectation
way down. Dandelions
for anybody.
Dandelions
(36:40):
and thistles.
Yeah. I like that thistle. And some fescue
graph. Yeah.
So I will tell you, I will fess
on myself that if there was one service
that I would I would have redone
from my first wedding, it would be the
flowers, because it makes the photos look better.
It makes everything
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it elevates the entire experience.
So
this is one of those things where
unless you have somebody in the family
who used to be a florist,
you know, that level,
please just leave it to the professionals because,
otherwise,
it's
just not gonna look that great, and it's
(37:21):
going to, you know, it's gonna
it's just not gonna look that great. So
I would say in this order,
the
bride and bridesmaids
bouquets,
drop that's where you should drop the lion's
share of your money, then the guy's boutonnieres.
You can stop there and oh, the maybe
a little, you know, the boutonnieres for the
moms and stuff. But you can stop pretty
(37:43):
much stop there. If you wanna go to
Dollar General to get
the place settings for the, you know, the
center the center fake flower? If you wanna
do or you wanna do pampas grass, or
you wanna do these tall things with with
marbles or what you know? Right. It doesn't
have to be flowers. Correct? You can get
really creative, but there's just something about how
(38:04):
beautiful
those flowers look when you really drop the
you know, that's where you you spend your
budget. You can kind of skirt away a
little bit from
maybe the, you know, the the place settings
or the centers.
It's kind of like if you threw a
really swanky Christmas party,
and you don't have a Christmas tree. Right?
(38:24):
It's just kinda, woah. What's what's this?
I will tell you, though, that wood flowers
are a very they're an affordable
option.
They are beautiful.
It's really hard to tell that they are
wood
flowers. A trendy thing, although they're made kind
of the tariffs. Well, yes. And they've gone
(38:46):
they've gone $10,000
to bring up. Oh, well, that's cheaper than
plus, Jackie here, you you were the singing
florist. You were the singing florist. I was
singing florist, so I used to braid everybody's
garden for my flowers. Alright. And put them
together? What the That's how and I would
I had I had wooden flowers. Yeah. You
know, I got them at, like, a garage
sale or something, and I had a pile
of them. They were great. Yeah. Wooden flowers
(39:08):
are they're beautiful, and the cool thing is
you can save them. They'll they you don't
have to they'll last forever. Yeah. You don't
you don't have to worry about them
getting faded and Yeah. Like your love. I'm
co I'm kidding. I'm kidding y'all. I'm kidding.
Oh. I'm kidding. We have a whole bunch
of Ray Simon got into them and ate
them.
Woodflowers?
Yeah.
(39:29):
Okay. So
music. Music. That's the next biggest one. Now
I
you would think I'm the lead singer for
Dog Park Monday, so you would guess
you would guess that I would say What
do you plan next? Go, this Friday at
Anoteca Eight PM. Yeah. Okay. We can't wait
for them. And make sure it starts a
date. Yes. We'll show you. You would think
I would vote for the band, but, sorry,
(39:50):
I gotta give wedding reception
music. I gotta give it to the DJs.
DJs can go across eras, genres,
styles.
They can
if Paw Paw wants to hear a special
song that you wanna play for him, you
know, he was really into
disco, whatever. Right. You can, you know, you
can throw that out there, whereas
(40:12):
a band is limited to what they Right.
You know, what they can do.
You could request. If you have a request,
they could just the teachers can just whip
it up. Exactly.
They usually don't Perfect pitch pitch and everything.
Right? Perfect. They usually they usually don't need
a break because they can usually do bio
breaks while there's a longer song on. Bio
breaks. Bio breaks.
That's right. And they as a really good
(40:34):
one, which that's what you wanna look for
when you talk to them, when you interview,
You wanna ask, how do you build the
party atmosphere?
How do you build that? And so they
should have a plan. Like, will I start
with these types of songs, and I move
to these types of songs? They should ask
you for what kind of music you like,
what kind of music you don't like because
it's important. And so do your homework.
(40:55):
You know, if you I've heard brides, I
can't believe he's playing. That's well, did you
tell him not to, or did you tell
her not to? So make sure,
Yeah. And DIY
I'm just gonna make a spot list. I'm
I'm just gonna put together a playlist on
Spotify. That is not the same thing. Okay?
That is not the same thing. And you
can do it. You can do it if
that's what you wanna do, but somebody's gotta
(41:17):
mind the stove. Because sometimes you thought songs
were gonna go over well, and they're not
going over well. And the last thing you
wanna do is two or three more songs
in that genre, whatever. You need somebody who's
gonna go, oh, that's not going too well.
Let me flip over to these songs. Or
let me start. How many look. If you
if you're a dancer, you're talking about the
reception at the end when you dance. I
mean, that's that can be three hours long.
(41:39):
How many songs,
you know Oh, you can make a long
you can make a long Spotify playlist. You
can make ten hour I mean, you can
make a long one. If everybody's I've always
heard this from bands. If they're everybody's dancing,
then they will play more of their dancing.
They'll continue that line. Correct. You wanna play
yeah. And so that's what I'm saying. So,
you know, you may be thinking ahead of
time, like, well, I'll just throw in a
(42:00):
couple Motown, and then I'll cut throw in
a couple of eighties. Well, the Motown goes
crazy. You start playing the eighties, and everyone
walks off. What are you gonna do? So
if you're gonna do your own playlist, I'm
I seriously,
put together, like, if it's a two hour
reception, three hour reception,
four or five hours
worth of music. Block them together by genre
(42:20):
so it's easy for you. And then you
could just if people are liking it, you
can just keep playing that, then you can
switch over to something. But again so Cool.
See, you need you need a friend who
this is this is how their brain works.
This is not, again, this is not something
where you want mom going, well, Lenny, I
don't know. I mean, it sounded like they
wanted some Chet Atkins, but I don't know
what they want now.
(42:42):
You know?
So yeah. That's cute.
So
yeah.
I love it. Okay. So What else is
there? We got a big one that starts
with a c and ends with an e.
It's it's Num num num num num. Yum
yum yum. And there's an a and a
k in between.
The cake. The cake. The wedding cake. Oh
my gosh. Okay.
(43:02):
So the cake. I am not a snob.
Okay? No.
From I am well, not with my cake.
Pat. Pat.
So,
cake a cake can be from a grocery
store. Cake can be from a bakery. If
you like how it tastes, then that's all
that matters. Right. Right? So go and do
your taste test. Now bakeries
(43:24):
can be
more inventive with flavors.
They can be more inventive with creative with
decorations.
A lot of times, a grocery store bakery
is a little more,
hogtied as far as, you know, well, we
can only do these kinds of decorations, or
we can only do these flavors.
(43:45):
It always has to say happy birthday. Right.
And it has to say happy birthday. But
if you like for so, I'm thinking of
right now, like, I'm thinking of
Costco
cakes. Right. You can order them. So so
people there are some people who they love
the flavor of Costco cakes. That is just,
like, I don't care. You could give me
a $20 a slice cake. I don't care.
(44:05):
I like the Costco better. Wow. So
that's fine. You know, you could always again,
if you wanna get a big old cake
and you wanna go to a bakery because
you want it to have all these special
decorations and all that, wonderful.
If you don't really care that much about
the cake that you just want a great
flavor, great tasting cake, you could go to,
say,
Fred Meyer. You can get a beautiful cake,
(44:26):
lovely cake with wonderful flavor, but it may
not have all those intense decorations. All those
tiers. Yeah. The tiers. Right. All the tiers.
Right? So here's a way that you can
also save money
is you can buy the sheet cake,
you know, you can buy the sheet cake
from Fred Meyer, say,
and then you buy a small, like, a
(44:47):
eight inch round
from the bakery,
really nice with the little two little people
on the top or whatever. Right? Yeah. Makes
sense. And that's what you cut,
and they whisk that away. And you guys
feed that to each other, and that's what
they whisk away. That makes sense. And the
sheet cake in the back
Yeah. It's pulled up. What gets they don't
even pull that. They just chop it up
(45:07):
back there, and all they're doing is bringing
out ice. You're right. In a way. Let
me tell you this. Make sure it's the
same color. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Make sure yeah. If you get chocolate, they
get chocolate. If you get vanilla, they get
vanilla. Okay. So
I,
when I was in Japan, I was honored
to be able to attend a wedding.
And they have these wedding villages, you know,
(45:27):
where you they just have room after room
of all these, you know.
So we're sitting there, and the wedding cake
gets,
wheeled in. And this is I am not
I'm not joking.
This is a
twelve,
fifteen foot tall Oh. Wedding cake. Right? I
mean, it is it is these massive there's,
(45:48):
like, you know, six foot
dowels
in between these these huge I mean, it's
huge.
And so they wheel this in, and there's
all the, you know, the, what is it?
The ice, the dry ice. So it's still
all the fog and stuff is coming around
them. And they sit there, and they
and they cut the little slice, and they
take the picture. And they go, oh, then
(46:09):
and they off they go. They take boop.
They roll it out of there.
It's a cardboard
cake,
y'all. It's a decorated
cardboard
cake, and it's just there for the show.
So I'm telling you, don't even worry about
it. Don't even worry about it. But I
will say this. I will say this. Another
wedding,
(46:31):
the friend of the bride offered
to
do the to do the cake.
A four tier
four tier.
K?
Four tier cake.
And the caterer calls me over just before
the wedding starts. She goes, Veronica,
what am I gonna do? I said, what?
She goes, there's nothing
in between these tiers.
(46:52):
There's nothing. See, usually, they put dowels. Right.
They put dowels into the cake, and then
they put a platform.
And then they put the next cake, and
they put dowels in that so that it
all stands. No.
This thing was just one
big cake
shoved onto I mean, I'm like, I don't
know. Take one big
one big slice, like a big old brontosaurus
(47:12):
slice. I don't I don't know. So that's
my other thing is, you know, you may
have friends who come up and say, oh,
I can do your flowers or I can
do the cake.
Just remember,
you get what you pay for. Right. Be
careful because unless your friends have done these
things professionally or they've done them before,
may not be you know, here's some other
(47:33):
options. Ideas. Yeah. The sheet cake by the
way, as a sheet cake, who cares at
that point? Is it Yeah. The end of
the thing? All I wanna know is, is
the bar still open,
and are they pouring? Because that's where I
don't care about the damn cake. So let's
talk about the bar. Let's talk about the
bar. The bar, and everything else. So it
used to be, I think, pretty standard, open
(47:55):
bar at a wedding. That was pretty much
you could expect.
But I'm telling you that they are not
nearly as
they're not nearly as,
typical
as they used to be. I would say
maybe 25%
more like, you know, our open bar. And
there's a reason for that. A lot of
(48:16):
people were getting overserved.
There was a lot of waste. You know?
People DUIs after And d u yeah. Exactly.
DUIs are worse, you know, worse afterwards because
people being overserved and then or, you know,
people
getting in fights because the whole inhibition thing
is down. Yeah.
Or, you know, or people getting really sick
because it's, oh, I'll try a mojito.
(48:37):
Yeah. Okay. I'll try a martini. Yeah. That's
right. And they're all you know, and then
they're throwing up because they've yeah. So a
lot of people And it's expensive. And it's
it's real I mean, I remember and this
was back
in 9090,
'19 '90, I think.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen. It was back in
the nineteen hundreds.
(48:58):
The the venue the venue when I was
looking around, the venue was gonna charge $500
for the keg.
$500
Hello. For the keg, which basically what we
worked it out to was that they were
charging us $5
a glass Yeah. For you know, so they
were charging us for retail
for that, you know, for the for having
(49:19):
that. So
just know it's not required. If this is
a place where you're you don't want people
driving home drunk, you don't want people getting
you know, having fights and things, just notify
guests ahead of time. You do wanna have
champagne, but also you wanna have nonalcoholic
options as well, like maybe sparkling,
Apple. Cider, apple cider, sparkling grape, that sort
(49:41):
of thing. You know, some things or even,
you know, soda,
sparkling soda. But notify the guests ahead of
time
and so that they'll make sure that they
bring cash.
Yeah. Okay. So there's oftentimes, there'll be, you
know, champagne for everybody, but there's it's a
pay for bar. Yeah. They go to the
bar, and it's gonna cost you $5 a
a drink. Yeah. I think everyone's pretty cool.
(50:01):
As long like I said, as long as
you know ahead of time, it just a
lot of people don't carry
cash or they didn't think to bring, you
know, a credit card. So just as as
long as you tell them that they ten
minutes. What are we gonna get into next?
What is this groom or tonight groom? You
tell me what you're talking about here. So
I have often heard
from grooms,
(50:23):
oh, yeah. I don't have to do any
of this when we're talking about vendors. I
don't have to pick the flowers. I don't
have to pick the photographer. I don't have
to pick the cake. I don't have to
pick any of this.
She just she said,
all I gotta do is get dressed
and show up.
And I'm just saying, gentlemen,
yes.
Maybe that's true. Maybe she's thinking less cooks
(50:44):
in the kitchen, and I'm gonna pick whatever,
and and I'm gonna have the mashed potatoes
match the bridesmaids' dresses. Maybe that's what she
wants to do. Okay? And maybe it's easier
if you don't have him there. But I'm
just saying and this is the analogy I
used before,
is that you could have
a you could have an an interior designer
and you say or an interior decorator, and
(51:05):
you say, here. Here's the money. I like
blues and browns.
Knock it out.
Or you could go and work with an
interior decorator and say, I like blues. I
like browns. I like rustic, but I don't
like mechanical. I like this art piece. I
like that art piece.
You're you're gonna have a beautiful home either
way. Right.
(51:25):
But the latter one is going to mean
so much more to you. Yep. And when
people come, they're gonna go, oh, that's really
cool. And you go, yeah. I picked that
out because
x y z. I did that because of
you know, I really liked it. And so
it's just one's gonna mean more. So guys,
step up. And ladies,
you know, stop pushing them off the the
(51:46):
the step.
Yeah. I hear that a lot that the
guy say, well, she just wants a beautiful
wedding, and I'll just I'm just gonna go.
It's whatever she wants. Right? I get it.
Happy wife, happy life. I get it. But
you know what?
Jump in. Make some, you know, make some,
some suggestions. Yeah. You know what I've heard?
The scientists have recently discovered a food that
greatly reduces the sex drive. You know what
(52:08):
it is? Oh, no. Called the wedding cake.
Oh, god.
Alright. Alright. Now just to summarize what we
talked about. What you're saying, step up to
it, guys. You know, I mean, look. You're
just gonna enjoy it more. I think you
I think they think they're going to enjoy
it less, and I'm here to tell you,
I have heard so many
grooms
afterwards
(52:28):
saying things like, hey. That turned out really
cool. Oh, you know how we picked out
that? That was really cool how that you
know, I really like how that worked out.
I really like how that looked or you
know? So
so, anyway, so in summary, I would say
communicate fully. Make sure that you're you're talking
that you are clear with your vendors
so that you avoid misunderstandings.
(52:48):
And this is where you get your bridesmaids.
If you don't have a,
a coordinator
like me,
then this is where you Hint. Hint.
This is where you engage your,
bridesmaids and your groomsmen, and you get them,
help me make sure that this happens. Make
sure this happens because you're gonna be busy.
(53:09):
Don't make your family work. Not me, mom.
Not papa. Not mom. Not dad. Like dad.
Good idea. Siblings, that's fine.
Be careful about allowing or asking loved ones
to deliver services. You will get what you
pay for.
And, you know, do the DIY with a
grain of salt. If you're gonna do it
yourself,
then just recognize that, you know, it just
(53:30):
may not it look professional. And if you
want something that looks professional, if you're going
for real casual,
you know, toes in the sand kinda thing,
then professional may not be that big a
deal, but you definitely want people who are
gonna show up. They show up on time.
Even if it's casual,
you still want Right. The cake to be
right. You want the cook you know, whoever's
(53:50):
cooking the food to be there on time
to you know, and and Right. So you
said if they don't have somebody like you,
how could people get
a hold of you? Yeah. Okay. Spell your
name. Give us your address. Give us your
email. Give us all the new stuff. Okay.
So so I am Veronica Slesner.
You may know me from, Dog Park Mondays.
(54:11):
My last name is spelled s c h
l e s e n e r. Here's
how I do it. Here's how I do
it.
S c h like I'm taking you to
school, then it's l e s e n
e r. So,
it's
Sherman.
The Sherman's name.
Yeah. So my email is revsch,
that's r e v s c h, like
(54:32):
I'm taking you to school, then it's les@Gmail.
But the easiest, the fastest way to get
a hold of me, if you wanna get
a hold of me You giving out a
phone number? Is,
yes. It's our new business phone line.
It's for dog park Mondays as well as
Okay. Cool. As, as this business. So the
number is (707)
951-0632.
(54:54):
That's 70795106
Wow. 32. And next time,
we're gonna talk about the rehearsal, why it's
important,
and how do you get through it in
ten minutes or less? Oh, we are gonna
have remind everybody, if you know of anybody
that is up for getting married on the
air Yes. Live show here in the KCOW
(55:14):
studio with the cake and the bubbly and
the the the the the officiant here,
Veronica,
you are gotta reach out to a docandjock@gmail.com.
Get out to us as soon as you
can. Thank you so very much, Veronica. We
will see you at, next ten.
Yeah. No time. Friday
(55:35):
night? Yeah. Yeah. Eight to ten. And then,
we just found out that,
for the Redwood Parks Conservancy
Music Fest. Oh, yeah. They're closing down. Right?
June 28. We are going to be the
closing act from five until seven, which I
love that it's not super late. Crescent City
that's got that It's in that that unique
building? They're closing it down? Is that what
(55:56):
they're doing? No. No. This is for Redwood
Parks Conservancy. Oh. And,
and it's raising money it's raising money for
that. Okay. And it's gonna be on June
28, and I believe it's from ten until
seven.
The the festival is gonna be from the
music festival is gonna be from ten to
seven.
And yours truly, Dog Park Mondays, is going
to be closing the show from five to
(56:17):
seven. Yeah. The next week. And where is
it gonna be at? I think I know
it's gonna be down by the marina, and
I think it's going to be at,
Porta Pint South. I believe that's where it's
gonna be. Cool. But you'll rest in the
city. Keep your eyes down. The thirty first
is the one to King Entertainment,
their festival. It was, like, eight bands playing
on Saturday, the thirty first. Okay. Doc, we
(56:37):
got up just a time for a few,
quick For what?
Fun time corner.
Advice to husbands.
Try praising your wife now and then, even
if it does startle her at first.
Some men
say that some men say they won't wear
their wedding band because it cuts off circulation.
(56:59):
Well, that's the point, isn't it?
Yeah. Okay. You got any good quotes? Yes.
A great many people think they're thinking
when they are merely
rearranging
their prejudices. Oh, we're back to thinking again.
Yeah.
Thinking one. It's all about the consciousness. Well,
what's the difference between an outlaw and an
in law?
(57:20):
Outlaws are wanted.
Oh my god. Hey. Before you marry a
person, you should first make them use a
computer with a slow Internet connection just to
see who they really might be. You know,
that's not a bad idea. You know, that
and take go on a trip. Yeah. Right?
Go on a trip and see how they
handle,
like, a late train and and so on.
(57:41):
Yeah. Stretch. Right? Yeah. Okay. What's, what's another
focus? Higher. Feel deeper.
Feel higher, breathe. Think
higher. Think higher, feel deeper. I like it.
I think I'm thinking a little higher right
now. Yeah. What do you what do you
call it? Hippie's wife.
What do you call him? Hippie's wife. What?
Mississippi.
Mississippi. If
(58:03):
everyone is thinking alike,
then no one is thinking.
That's true. If everyone's thinking alike, who is
that by? Some famous person? Benjamin
Franklin. Benjamin
Franklin.
Hey, anybody that believes in telekinesis, please
raise my hand.
I like that one.
Positive thinking will let you do any everything
(58:23):
better than negative thinking ever will.
Yeah. Right. It's kind of along the lines
of don't argue for your limitations.
Yeah. Because then they're yours. I spend a
lot of time, money, and effort Right. Childproofing
my house. Mhmm. But the kids still get
in.
I don't quite get that one either.
(58:44):
We both look at each other. We're not
always. We're not always got these total They
childproofed it and the kids are still getting
in. Yeah. Hey. Did you hear they busted
the, they they busted the, devil?
They got him on possession.
Okay. Well That's a good one. That's a
good one. And Ray Simon is just shaking
(59:04):
his head. We are done now. Oh, we
are. You have been listening to the Doc
and Jacques radio
variety show on KCOW
one hundred point seven FM
in Brookings, Oregon. We hope you have you
have enjoyed a fantastic show with Veronica here.
It was excellent. Peace and love. Everybody reach
out to us, docandjock@gmail.com
and pay, close attention because Tony Durso follows
(59:28):
us right now. Love that. And then you
can email us at docandjock@gmail.com.
There we go. Thanks.
Thank you. Thank
you.
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