Darkseid's Elite vs Black Order

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Hi and welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast,a weekly show where we review superhero films
and debate the superiority between Marvel andDC by comparing their characters in stat-based
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we're coming at you guys with a team duel. Andthis episode is going to be... Revenge match
kind of like a grudge match between Thanos andDarkseid except they're bringing their posses
with them it's gonna be Darkseids elite versusthe black order and Revenge is gonna be so
sweet from our original Duel episode of darkside versus Thanos Just laying that out there

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right now. Yeah, if any episode deserved a sequelIt would have to be Darkseid versus Thanos
because that has to be one of the most epicpairings between Marvel and DC characters ever
Yeah Right, and this matchup is going to beequally as epic. Can't wait to see who wins
between Darkseid's elite, which is basically,you know, his main generals on the planet Apocalypse

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versus the Black Order, who non-comic book readerswill definitely recognize from the Infinity
War and endgame films. They're like Thanos'generals. Before that matchup, we're going
to break down the latest comic book movie newsto come out this past week, of which we have
two news items. We got news that James Watkinsis going to direct the Clayface film that's
in development. and we got the official trailerfor Batman Ninja vs Yakuza League. As always

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film and television against each other. ThisWednesday, hosts Scotty and Gilly are finding
out who would win in a fight between the MCU'sCaptain America Steve Rogers and the DCEU's
Batman aka Batfleck. Which is a matchup I'vealways wanted to see from Max Destruction.
Yeah, it's nice that since we focus on the comicbook characters for our duels that they can

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focus on the movie characters. I'm really interestedin that fight too. On the Senjoh World podcast,
host Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights betweenfan favorite anime and manga characters. This
Thursday, Zach is putting out an epic 10 versus10 matchup of Team Naruto, AKA the Akatsuki
versus Team Bleach, AKA the Espada. That'llbe a big one. Anime fans definitely check that

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game characters. In yesterday's episode, theyfound out who would win between Commander Shepard,
female Commander Shepard from Mass Effect andCatherine B320 from Halo. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com
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Network. But with that out of the way, quickto the no prize. A no prize is an award Marvel
used to give out to fans. Our version, the DynamicDuel No Prize, is a digital award we post on
Instagram for the person that we feel gave thebest answer to our question of the week. Last
week we asked you guys, what's your favoriteCaptain America solo film and why? And we incorporated

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all of the Captain America movies, not justfrom the MCU franchise, but also through history.
We got three answers, so let's go ahead andrun down the two honorable mentions and the
no prize winner. Our first honorable mentiongoes to Lee Tapscott, who said, Hi, this is
Lee. My favorite Captain America project wasCaptain America. Seventy five heroic years.

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This aired back in 2016 on ABC right beforethe premiere of Agent Carter. This is a documentary
movie on the history of Captain America, bothin comics and films, and examine the influence
of this character in America culture throughoutthe years. with tons of interviews and snippets

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from movies and comics. Oops, it looks likehe got kind of cut off at the end there, but
I remember when this documentary came out. It'snot like a solo film per se, but it was really
cool to see comic book and movie creators commenton the influence of Captain America back when
he first debuted around World War II. Therehave been quite a few solid comic book documentaries

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made over the years. I remember the HistoryChannel put out an amazing one back in the
early 2000s. Oh yeah, wasn't it like comic booksuperheroes unmasked? Yeah, I would highly
recommend that documentary to anyone who's likegetting into comics. There was also a really
great documentary on the Unbreakable specialfeatures for that movie Unbreakable, since
you know that movie deals with comic books andsuperheroes. Oh yeah, great interviews with

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comic book creators like Dave Gibbons and FrankMiller, if I remember correctly. Yeah. DC has
had one TV special documentary-esque type projectthat they put out. I think it was right around
the time of Batman v Superman and that was hostedby Kevin Smith. It was called Dawn of Justice
League if I remember correctly. And no one caresabout that one. Oh, I'm sorry. Moving on to

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our next honorable mention. This next answerwas given by Travis Herndon, who said, What's
up, dynamic dudes? Travis here. Shout out tomy evil twin. So my answer had to be Falcon
and Winter Soldier. Seeing Bucky and Sam havingthis buddy cop dynamic was cool. While yeah,
the villains were a big lackluster, gettingintroduced to the tragic character of Isaiah
Bradley was powerful, as well as getting introducedto everybody's favorite party city cat, John

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Walker. So yeah, Falcon and the Winter Soldieris my favorite series. Yeah, the Falcon and
the Winter Soldier was a great television show.It had phenomenal action, especially that Tunisia
flight scene from the first episode and thedynamic between. The Falcon and the Winter
Soldier is really enjoyable. In fact, it's probablyone of the things missing from the recent Brave
New World movie. Yeah, Bucky's cameo in thatleft a lot to be desired. But yeah, I would

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say Falcon and the Winter Soldier is definitelyone of Marvel's best television series that
they put out. I love what they did with BaronZemo. Didn't love Power Broker, but I loved
US Agent and pretty much everything else. Ididn't love Flag Smasher either. Oh yeah, that
was dumb. Great answer, Travis Herndon, butthe winner of this week's No Prize is... Matt

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from Texas who said, Hey guys, it's Matt fromTexas. Uh, I would say my favorite Captain
America movie is probably going to be CaptainAmerica, the first Avenger is the quintessential
Captain America movie. It's where he gets hisstart shows who he truly is. And it's world
war II. I love world war II. I study it as ahistory major. Um, but yeah, that's it. Peace

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out. Yeah, a lot of people love Captain America,the first Avenger. It's not personally my favorite
Captain America film, but I could see wherea lot of people are coming from when they cite
it as their favorite, because it's probablythe most unique film out of the Captain America
MCU franchise. Right. Usually the franchisetends to go down the political thriller route.
But Captain America took a very pulpy approachto World War Two. in the vein of films like

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Raiders of the Lost Ark or The Rocketeer. Infact, the guy who directed The First Avenger
also directed The Rocketeer. So there was somethingvery charming about the film and it just had
a lot of heart. Yeah, in my opinion, CaptainAmerica, The First Avenger is the way Captain
America movies should be done. These wartimefilms where Captain America gets to punch Nazis,

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seeing him go up against the Red Skull is soiconic. For sure, yeah. So great answer, Matt.
You win this week's snow prize. If you the listenerwant a shot at winning your own no prize, go
ahead and stay tuned to later on this episodewhen we'll be asking another question of the
week. And now that that's done, on to the news!

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Alright, a few months ago DC Studios announcedthat it would be releasing a clay face solo
film produced by Matt Reeves who is the directorof The Batman. We weren't sure if this movie
was going to take place in the DCU or the Elseworldsuniverse in which The Batman takes place. We've

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since learned that it's going to be a DCU filmdirected by James Watkins who has directed
other including Speak No Evil, The Woman inBlack, and The Descent Part 2. None of which
I have seen. Not a big horror guy. I haven'tseen any of those either, but Speak No Evil

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with James McAvoy did look pretty solid. I gottacheck that out. Yeah, that film did pretty
well critically too, as have several other ofhis projects. Now, the Clayface film is said
to only have a budget of about $40 million,which is nothing. They're definitely selling
this as a low budget horror project, which,you know, is not terrible. There have been

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a lot of great low budget horror films to havecome out recently that have gotten a lot of
acclaim. So there is promise here. Oh, yeah,I'm super excited by this. It was interesting
that we got a look at the DCU version of Clayfacein the recent Creature Commandos animated series.
As those of you have watched the show will know,Clayface didn't really meet a timely end to

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there. but you know, it's really hard to killClayface, so I'm certain that he'll be coming
back, but also, this film doesn't have to followthat series, it could be a prequel. Yeah, honestly,
I hope it is. I hope it starts off somethingcloser to the Clayface that we got in the Batman
Caped Crusader animated series just last year.Start there and then move into the Creature

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Commandos version of Clayface. I think that'sthe best way to go. I would agree with that,
yeah. As we've talked about earlier, Clayfaceis being written by Mike Flanagan who has also
written horror films like Doctor Sleep, TheHaunting, The Fall of the House of Usher, and
The Haunting of Hill House, to name a few. Thefilm is set to be released on September 11th
of 2026, so look forward to it then. But speakingof the reveal that James Watkins is set to

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direct this film, that brings us to our questionof the week.
What horror director would you like to see directa film for one of Batman's villains? And which
villain? So we're looking for you guys to pairyour favorite horror director with your favorite
Batman villain. A lot of options to choose from.We're really interested in hearing what you

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guys have to say. Record your answer at dynamicduel.comby clicking on the red microphone button in
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Your message could be up to 30 seconds long,and don't forget to leave your name in case
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duel no prize that we'll post to Instagram.Be sure to answer before March 1st. Also in

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DC news this past week we got the official trailerfor Batman Ninja vs Yakuza League and it looks
so damn epic and bonkers in the best way possiblejust like the first animated film was. I loved
that movie. I almost gave that movie 5 stars.I still enjoy watching that movie and this

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trailer has me really pumped to see the sequel,which looks like it picks up right after the
first one ends. Yeah, I really like how thefirst Batman Ninja movie really delved into
like medieval history of Japan, right? It tookplace in a very historical context and now
the sequel takes place in a very modern context.We get to see modern Japan with these Yakuza

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gangs going up against each other and I guessJapan was positioned directly over Gotham City
in this world. Right, because Japan is missingon the map. Something they did in the past
in the first movie has altered the present.And it looks like the premise of the film is
that Batman and his team have to go throughthe Justice League in order to reset reality.

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Fantastic premise. I love seeing all the differentJustice League characters and their designs.
Everything from Jessica Cruz to Aquaman to Flashand Wonder Woman. look amazing. We haven't
seen Superman yet, though I suspect we will.Maybe he'll be like the big boss at the end.
Yeah, the Shogun. Right, yeah. Russell Gouldwas really cool to see. I'm sure he's involved

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in what's going on in some way. I always lovehim as a Batman villain, but we also get to
see other Batman villains like the Joker popup as well. This film is going to be so packed,
like with other characters like Robin and Nightwingand Red Hood, and I'm totally here for it.
Yeah, it looks like a lot of fun. The shot wherethe Japanese Yakuza assassins were being fired

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out of this giant like Gatling gun onto GothamCity. Right. It was just so wacky. It's like
nothing that we've ever seen before, right?Yeah, the line by Commissioner Gordon though
was weird where he was like, yeah, it's rainingmen. I was like, is that a reference to the
song, It's Raining Men? I don't think so. Ido have to say though, this trailer definitely

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has turned me off to the dubbed version of thismovie. The way they released this trailer,
was they showed you the dubbed version and thenright after that it was the subtitled version.
Just like with the first film, I imagine I'mabsolutely going to prefer the subtitled version
of this film just based on this trailer. Yeah,the subbed version is the only version I've

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seen of the original Batman Ninja movie. Thefilm is coming out pretty soon here, March
18th on digital and April 15th for the physicalversions. If you're a fan of the first I can't
wait to watch it and I can't wait to reviewit when it's released.

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I think that does it for all the news for thisepisode so let's go ahead and move into our
main event Where we find out who would win ina fight between darksight's team of generals
the elite and Thanos's team of generals theblack order

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All right, Darksides Elite versus The BlackOrder. It's about to go down. I'm really excited
for this matchup. Oh yeah, I think this ideawas given by our executive producer, Devin
Davis, who comes up with fantastic ideas. Andonce I heard this one, I was like, oh, hell
yeah. Yeah, I'm a big fan of The Black Order.I think they were the coolest thing to come

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out of Jonathan Hickman's Infinity. And I thoughtthey were adapted really well in Avengers Infinity
War and Avengers Endgame. And... Even in videogames, there's the Marvel Ultimate Alliance
3 video game in which they're the primary antagonistsand it's a whole lot of fun. So I have a real
soft spot in my heart for this team. I thinklargely because they're just so brutal and

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the character designs are so well done. Yeah.And not only did we get to see members of Darkseid's
elite in Zack Snyder's Justice League, but ifyou grew up watching any form of DC animation,
you're pretty familiar with characters likeGranny Goodness and Da'sad and Steppenwolf.
the latter of whom was actually the main antagonistfor the Justice League film. In addition to

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just like really liking the characters, theprimary reason I was pumped to do this episode
is because Marvel needs payback for what happenedback in 2018 when Thanos lost to Darkseid in
that duel episode. Spoiler alert! I've neverforgotten that and today's the day I make the
world right again. We'll see. I'm actually reallycurious to see how this match is gonna go and

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who's gonna win. It's exciting. But to explainthe methodology behind our duels, let's go
to our sentient Duel simulator, Alfred Jarvis9000. AJ and IK tell our listeners how you
go about determining a winner in our Duel matchups.Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a
winner between the two teams is by running 1000Monte Carlo simulations between every character

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on each team using their statistics. A MonteCarlo simulation is a probabilistic model used
to determine outcomes through random sampling.In this case, I randomize the statistics along
a normal distribution as a way to simulate themany variables that can occur during battle.
The stat parameters are based on the officialMarvel power grid, from which the DC characters'

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statistics are extrapolated. Additional statcategories are included such as range, damage
potential, versatility, and perception, in orderto create a more detailed and accurate simulation.
The results of the 49,000 simulations providea percentage of wins for each character on
both teams. The team with the higher averagewin rate is declared the victor as they have

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a higher probability to win any given battle.In an equitable pairing, neither team should
win 100% of the matches. The comic book storieshave shown that there's even a way for Batman
to defeat Superman, so the confidence rate ofmy method falls in line with the precedents
that have been established in the source material.My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity
or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration,nor are fan votes tabulated for determination

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of the winner. Thanks, AgenonK! Before we runthe simulations though, we like to break down
each team's rosters and histories before improvisinga scenario on how we imagine one of the many
simulations would play out beat for beat. AndI believe it's my turn to go first with the
Marvel backstory, so let me go ahead and tellyou guys all about the Black Order. Thanos'

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Black Order is an elite strike force assembledto enforce his will and conquer planets in
his name. Composed of some of the most ruthlessand powerful warriors in the universe, The
origins of the Black Order trace back to Thanos'need for a force capable of executing his will
with absolute efficiency. As detailed in hisbackstory in the duel episode against Darkseid,

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Thanos had long commanded vast armies of maraudersand warlords, but recognized that brute force
alone would not always guarantee victory. Heneeded specialists, warriors who could execute
missions with a level of cruelty beyond thatof common soldiers. Unlike the armies of the
Chitauri and the Outriders that Thanos deployeden masse, the Black Order functioned as a special

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unit who could not only fight but also manipulate,infiltrate, and dominate entire civilizations.
Corvus Glaive was the first member to rise tothe challenge. A brilliant strategist and one
of the most vicious warriors in the cosmos,Corvus was granted his namesake weapon by Thanos.
The glaive was sharp enough to split atoms andcut through any substance, including the skin

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of immensely powerful beings like the Hulk andHyperion. More than just a tool of destruction,
the glaive gave Corvus practical immortality.So long as the blade remained intact, he could
not die. His loyalty to Thanos was absolute,and he proved to be the Mad Titan's most trusted
general, leading Thanos' armies in battle. CorvusGlaive's wife, Proxima Midnight, was the deadliest

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Black Order. Her mastery of hand-to-hand combatwas unparalleled, and her superhuman strength,
speed, and durability made her a match for eventhe most powerful warriors. Her primary weapon
was a spear forged from a collapsed star, capableof wielding all the equivalent mass and energy.
It functions as a homing projectile when thrown,can fire energy blasts, and can immobilize

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opponents with a black energy net. The lethaltoxin in its tip could
in existence. Proxima thrived in battle, eagerto prove herself superior to any enemy who
dared oppose her. While Glaive and Midnightwere instruments of raw power, Ebony Maw was
something else entirely. He was a manipulator,a whisperer capable of unraveling even the

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strongest minds. His voice was his greatestweapon, enabling him to override the will of
others and turn them into pawns. In additionto Ebony's persuasive abilities, he possessed
telekinesis, teleportation, and and could conjurefireballs with his hands, further solidifying
his position as one of Thanos' most insidiousagents. Black Dwarf, the team's brute force,

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possessed unparalleled strength and durability.His unbreakable skin allowed him to withstand
the attacks of some of the most powerful beingsin the universe. His preferred weapons were
massive bladed and blunt instruments which hewielded with devastating force, most commonly
a giant double-bladed axe.

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was a telepathic parasite capable of mind controland mental consumption. Unlike Ebony Maw, who
manipulated minds through persuasion, Supergiantforcibly dominated her victims, feeding on
their intellect. She could seize mental controlof entire armies, turning them against their
allies. The Black Order's first major recordedmission was against Ego the Living Planet,

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whom Thanos viewed as an offense to death, andwhom you can learn more about in his duel against
the
in battle, but the confrontation ended in astalemate. The Black Order's most infamous
campaign came during Thanos' attack on Earth.With the Avengers occupied in deep space, Thanos
launched a full-scale invasion, using his elitewarriors to target strategic locations. His

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stated demand was a tribute, that each rulerof Earth was to offer the heads of all younglings
between the ages of 16 and 22. In reality, thiswas a cover for his true goal, finding his
lost son, Thane. order was assigned to regionof Earth to subjugate. Corvus Glaive and Supergiant
attacked the X Mansion seeking information onThane's location. Proxima Midnight was sent

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to Atlantis where she confronted Namor the Sub-Mariner.Black Dwarf was assigned to Wakanda where he
encountered the greatest resistance from forcesled by the Black Panther, who repelled his
invasion and forced Black Dwarf to retreat indisgrace. For this failure, Thanos expelled
him from the Black Order. Ebony Maw took a moreinsidious approach. He infiltrated Doctor Strange's

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mind, taking control of the Sorcerer Supremeand using him as an agent to uncover Thane's
whereabouts. Eventually Ebony Maw located Thaneas a young man in the hidden inhuman town in
Greenland. There he discovered that Thane hadnot yet undergone pterigenesis, which is an
evolutionary process that you can learn moreabout in our Shazam versus Black Bolt duel

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episode. When Black Bolt detonated a pterigenbomb over Earth, Thane's transformation was
triggered, awakening his devastating abilities.His left hand became a weapon of instant death,
while his right hand could encase victims ina solid amber-like construct that left them
in suspended animation. In an instant, he inadvertentlywiped out his entire town. Ebony Maw arrived,

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offering Thane a containment suit to controlhis abilities, but the offer was a deception.
Maw encased Thane in a force field and alertedThanos to his location. However, when Thanos
arrived to kill his son, Ebony Maw chose totest Thane's potential. He freed him, giving
him a choice, flee or embrace his heritage.Thane chose the latter using his newfound power.

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midnight in amber, leaving them in a state ofliving death. With Thanos defeated, the Black
Order fractured. Corvus Glaive remained withhis master while the others scattered, but
their time apart was brief. The cosmic beingknown as the Challenger reunited the Black
Order, using them in a grand contest againstthe Grandmaster's Lethal Legion. During the
first round of the contest, the Black Orderfought the Lethal Legion for control of Pyramoids,

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which were powerful cosmic artifacts placedaround the earth. Black Dwarf to secure the
first Pyramoid in Rome. In the second round,the Black Order moved to Antarctica, again
clashing with the Avengers, who forced themto retreat and ultimately brought the contest
to an end. Following the contest, the BlackOrder regrouped to the planet Angargel, where

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they were tasked by an alien resistance withdismantling the alien galactic empire. The
Black Order only accepted as a means to seizethe bow of Gabriel, which was a weapon capable
of planetary destruction. Ebony Maw manipulatedthe Emperor into lowering the planet's defenses,
allowing the Black Order to take the weapon.Corvus Glaive then activated the bow, transforming

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Sinar's inhabitants into monsters that destroyedthe planet and dismantled their galactic empire.
However, when their task was complete, the Grandmasterarrived and seized the weapon from them. Later,
the Black Order served Hela, the Goddess ofDeath, who sought to retrieve and resurrect
Thanos. Together, they attacked Starfox andthe Guardians of the Galaxy to retrieve the

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body and bring bringing the Mad Titan back tolife on planet Nowhere. Though they were successful
in restoring their leader, Thanos, Hela, andthe Black Order were scattered after being
sucked into a black hole that destroyed theplanet. You can learn more about the Guardians
of the Galaxy in their Team Duel episode againstthe Doom Patrol. Most recently, the Black Order
was tasked by the Intergalactic Council, ledby Thanos and assigned with addressing matters

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of universal importance to assist the ImperialGuard in stopping the threat of the Phoenix
Force. entity in our Raven versus Phoenix duelepisode and that's the Black Order's history.
For this team duel the seven-member roster wasmostly easy to come by. Of course it will be
led by Thanos the Mad Titan with his immensestrength and durability, cosmic energies, matter

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manipulation, vast intelligence, and incalculableevil. The original members are also on the
roster, including Corvus Glaive with his Adam-splittingblade, enhanced physicals, and strategic mind.
Next is Proxima Midnight, wielder of her star-poweredspear, enhanced physicals, and combat mastery.
Also on the team is Ebony Maw with his persuasivevoice, telekinesis, fireball generation, and

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genius intellect. Then we have Black Dwarf,who I'm gonna call Cull Obsidian for this match.
I'm taking a cue from the movies and the videogames and acknowledge that the name Black Dwarf
is a horrible name for a brutish alien warrior.And I already know that one of the nicknames
for the Black Order itself in the comics wasthe Kull Obsidian, so it can get confusing,

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but for this match, Black Dwarf shall henceforthbe known as Kull Obsidian. He wields a giant
double-bladed axe, has vast strength and durabilitywith unbreakable skin. Rounding out the original
team is Supergiant, who never made an appearancein the MCU, but she's the team resident telepath
who can mentally possess entire legions andpsychically devour their minds. For the seventh

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and final member of the team, I was thinkingof going with Black Swan, who was a recurring
member of the Black Order, but I found her powerset to be too vague, with like, some energy
manipulation, some telepathy, some strength.Instead I decided to go with Thanos' son himself,
Thane. who has never actually been a memberof the Black Order in the comics, but he has
been heavily involved with them, and he alignedhimself with Ebony Maw in the books, and he

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allied with the whole team in the video gameMarvel Ultimate Alliance 3, wherein Thane is
actually the final villain. Plus his power setof having essentially an Omega effect touch
with one arm, and an Amber Energy constructgeneration effect with the other arm is pretty
cool. So that's my team. Thanos, Corvus Glaive,Proxima Midnight. Ebony Maw, Cull Obsidian,

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Supergiant, and Thane. Yeah, Cull Obsidian isa way better name than Black Dwarf. I do have
to say though, Supergiant is super confusingconsidering what the character looks like.
I was thrown for a loop with that one. Yeah,I mean, she's not a giant, right? She's a telepath,
a psychic vampire. Real weird. DC doesn't havethat problem. I'm pretty sure that some of

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the names of Darkseid's elite are pretty stupidtoo, like Granny Goodness. Hell yeah. The fuck
is that? Terrifying is what it is. Nothing moresinister than grandma's goodies. Wait, what?
What the fuck did you just say? Well, let'serase that from our minds by moving on to the
backstory of Darkseid's elite, whose historyis closely tied to Darkseid himself. Actually

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had a really hard time trying to separate thehistory of the team from its leader. It was
not possible. So there's a lot of reach righthere. Just bear with me. Now Apocalypse, a
desolate world of fire and suffering, was forgedfrom the remnants of a dead pantheon. When
the Old Gods waged war in a catastrophic conflictknown as Ragnarok, their homeworld was torn

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asunder, and from its ruins emerged two newplanets. New Genesis, a utopian paradise under
the guidance of Highfather, and Apocalypse,a burning wasteland where only the ruthless
had survived. For centuries, Apocalypse wasruled by Deathspots, who sought nothing but
war and suffering, but none were as cruel orambitious as Darkseid, who seized power through

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betrayal, orchestrating the deaths of his ownmother, Queen Hegra, and his pacifist brother
Drax. As the new god of tyranny, Darkseid reshapedApocalypse into a world of oppression and forced
obedience, powered by its fire pits which fedon the very essence of its suffering To enforce

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his iron rule, Darkseid assembled his elite,a collection of generals, assassins, torturers,
and warlords, whose authority was second onlyto his own. Together, Darkseid's elite carried
out their master's will across the cosmos, ensuringthat no world defied him and the apocalypse
remained the ultimate monument to his dominion.As Darkseid consolidated his rule over apocalypse,

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he turned his attention toward universal domination.provoking war with New Genesis and other worlds.
His uncle, Steppenwolf, led the first majorassault, hunting the new gods of New Genesis
for sport and killing Avia, the wife of HighFather Izaya. This act ignited a long and brutal
war between the two planets with Darkseid'sforces locked in an eternal struggle against

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their celestial counterparts. When the seeminglyendless war between Apocalypse and New Genesis
raged toward an unavoidable stalemate, Darkseidand Highfather struck a temporary truce known
as the Pact, exchanging their newborn sons.Orion was sent to New Genesis, while Scott
Free, aka Mr. Miracle, was raised in GrannyGoodness's orphanage. You can learn more about

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Orion and Mr. Miracle in their respective duelsagainst the Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock.
Darkseid's truce did little to halt his ambitions,however, and when Scott Free eventually escaped
Apocalypse and fled to Earth, as both a battlegroundand a testing ground for his greater plans,
as he believed Earth held fragments of the anti-lifeequation within the minds of his people. His

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forces, led by Glorious Godfrey, infiltratedhuman society, using the media and mass manipulation
to turn the population against their own protectors.Godfrey's words nearly succeeded in suing the
people of Earth, but he was ultimately defeatedby Earth's heroes. At the same time, Darkseid's
scientists, including Desaad and Dr. Bedlam,experimented with new methods of psychological

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warfare. Bedlam introduced the Paranoid Pill,a substance capable of inducing mass hysteria,
while Desaad's torturous experiments producedtechnological monstrosities to enforce Darkseid's
rule. Granny Goodness, the overseer of Apocalypse'sorphanages, trained warriors to serve in Darkseid's
armies, conditioning them into mindless soldiersdevoted to his cause. Over the years, Darkseid

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clashed with Earth's heroes, particularly Superman,whose power made him one of the few beings
capable of challenging his tyranny and might.Timing again, Darkseid's elite led invasions
of Earth, attempting to bring the planet underapocalyptic rule. Darkseid's armies of parademons,
commanded by Steppenwolf and Darkseid's son,Kelebek, descended upon Earth only to be repelled

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by the combined might of the Justice League.which you can learn more about in the team
duel Justice League vs Avengers. Darkseid'sobsession with the Anti-Life Equation remained
his driving goal, leading to numerous conflictswith Earth's greatest minds and heroes. He
sought to uncover its secrets through directassaults, cosmic manipulations, and alliances

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with other dark forces. Apocalypse was brieflyabandoned when Darkseid and his people were
slain by an unknown force, the Infinity Manacting on behalf of the Source. The New God
Spirits fell to Earth where they were rebornin mortal bodies. Darkseid took on the identity
of Boss Darkseid, spreading corruption fromthe shadows while plotting the resurrection

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of his true form, which he eventually obtainedalong with the completed anti-life equation.
As every living being within the universe becametransformed into Darkseid's mindless slaves,
reality itself began falling apart. a Radionbullet before seemingly dying himself to Darkseid's

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Omega-sanctioned power. When a Flashpoint eventreset DC's continuity, Darkseid and his elite
returned, though Darkseid's new war was notagainst New Genesis nor against Earth, which
he had already failed to conquer, but againsta rival god, the Anti-Monitor, an embodiment
of antimatter and destruction. The Anti-Monitor,once the greatest threat to the multiverse,

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had been transformed by the corrupted Amazonnamed Grail, Darkseid's own secret daughter.
The battle between Darkseid and the Anti-Monitorplayed out across multiple worlds, culminating
in a direct confrontation on Earth. Darkseid,wielding his Omega Effect, attempted to destroy
his rival, but the Anti-Monitor had evolved,now wielding the Anti-Life Equation itself.

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At the height of battle, the Anti-Monitor turnedthe Anti-Life Equation upon Darkseid Unmaking
Kim completely. With Darkseid's death, Apocalypsefell into chaos. Calleback, Steppenwolf, and
Grail all fought for control, but the most shockingdevelopment came when Grail resurrected Darkseid,
not as a god, but as an infant. For a time,Apocalypse had no true ruler, as Grail raised

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the child Darkseid, sacrificing old gods tofeed his power. Over time, Darkseid grew into
an adult once more. eventually killing Zeushimself to reclaim his godhood. But Darkseid
was no longer content with mere conquest. Hesought to harness the Great Darkness, the primordial
force from before creation. However, Darkseidsoon discovered that he was not its master,

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he was its pawn. The Great Darkness consumedhim, turning Darkseid and his elite into servants
of an even greater force. Now, under the controlof the Darkness itself, Darkseid led a final
invasion of Earth, seeking to eliminate itsheroes once and for all. Though he was eventually
freed from the darkness' control, Darkseid disappearedinto its void, leaving Apocalypse once again

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without its ruler. With Darkseid gone, Apocalypseremained a world on the edge of collapse, its
elite vying for power, waiting for the inevitablereturn of their god. For Darkseid is. I've
selected the most prominent figures within Darkseid'selite, each of whom play a critical role in

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Darkseid's Universal Conquest. Of course there'sDarkseid himself, ruler of Apocalypse, but
also his right-hand man Desaad, Darkseid's chieftorturer and scientist responsible for developing
advanced weaponry and psychological warfare.I'm also including Granny Goodness, the ruthless
commander of Apocalypse's orphanages, and Darkseid'spersonal guard, the Female Furies. Also, Darkseid's

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uncle Steppenwolf, Apocalypse's seasoned generaland tactician, and Kanto, the planet's master
assassin. Darkseid's brutish, firstborn son,Calleback, will bring added brawn to this fight,
while Dr. Bedlam brings added brains as a psionicentity. So to recap, it's Darkseid, Desaad,

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Granny Goodness, Steppenwolf, Kanto, Calleback,and Dr. Bedlam on this team. I like that team.
That's a pretty good team. I think there's goodanalogs between them and the Black Order, especially
when you pair Supergiant with Dr. Bedlam. AndI think you could pair Thane with Kanto. And
Kalebak with Cull Obsidian, and especially Desaadvs Ebony Maw. I think that's the pairing that

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works the best. There's also Steppenwolf againstCorvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight with Granny
Goodness. It's fate. It's fate how good thesepairings match up.
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Now that we got their histories and rostersout of the way, let's speculate on how one
of the many simulated matches will go. The winneris determined by simulations, not our speculation,
but it's fun to imagine how this team duel couldplay out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation?
Well, I should say there are no rules otherthan the teams have no prior knowledge of the

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other going into the fight. All they are awareof starting out is that the other side is a
threat that needs to be eliminated. For thespeculation, Groups will begin approximately
50 meters apart in a nondescript environmentthat will have no bearing on the match itself,
as no environmental statistics are consideredin my simulations. The teams must earn victory
on their own merit. All right, then let's getinto it. Darkseid's elite and the Black Order

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meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? I'mgonna say Darkseid starts off with his Omega
Beams, of course. What? So right away. Two redenergy beams shoot out from his eyes, zigzagging
across the arena and passing through each memberof the Black Order, just disintegrating them.
Match over! You cheating ass bastard. What happenedto escalation during these speculations, right?

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I'm gonna say that the Omega beams approachCorvus Glaive first, and he's gonna defend
himself with his glaive, which is sharp enough,as I said, to cut through anything, even atoms.
And yeah, they could even cut through energylike these Omega beams. What the blade is going
to cut through Darkseid's beams and split them.And they go off course and miss their mark.

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Dude, the Omega beams do not miss. But evenif the Omega beams can be cut by Corvus's blade,
someone still dies because one of the splitbeams is just going to make a return zigzag
trip and blast. I don't know, the psychic chicksuper giant. So she's out of the man. The Omega
beams suck, okay? They're a cheap ass attack.Thanos is not gonna have any part of that shit

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So he raises his fist and each member of DarksidesElite are gonna raise into the air with this
blue Energy aura around them due to Thanos'stelekinesis, right? He's lifting him telekinetically
and then Thanos is gonna slam Darksides Elitedown with a force. That's so hard It's gonna
crack the planet that they're on. So now they'reall fighting in like this Grand Canyon. Okay

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I mean, Thanos lifts and slams everyone he cansee, which is not Kanto, who happens to be
Darkseid's expert assassin and a master of stealth.So despite the planet cracking, Kanto delivers
this surprise attack with his apocalyptic swordand slashes Thanos fist right off. And he follows

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up with a series of rapid slashes right acrossThanos chest. Oh, shit. He fucked up there
because Cull Obsidian. is not cool with hisboss's hands just getting chopped off, okay?
So he leaps over to Kanto, and with a mightyswing of his giant battle axe, he chops off
Kanto's head with just one whack, and that thinggoes flying. Kanto's out of the match now,

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and Thanos, you know, he'll be fine. He's gonnaheal those chest slashes real quick. Okay,
well, meanwhile, Dr. Bedlam, who's this, youknow, invisible, psychic energy being, is currently
controlling six different androids. known asAnimants, and they're all curb-stopping Thane
right now, just pummeling him to death. No,no, no. Because Proxima Midnight sees Thane

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being attacked, and before the androids cankill Thane, she hurls her sun-powered spear
toward them, and as the spear flies, it's gonnaemanate the solar flare energy that arcs out
and strikes the entire android group, just fryingtheir circuits. And then the spear's gonna
lodge into the real Dr. Bedlam. impaling himinto the canyon wall that they're in and taking

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him out of this match. Well there is no likereal Dr. Bedlam, he just imparts his form on
one anime specifically, but sure we'll say thatwas the one that got impaled. But yeah now
Proxima Mindaig is without her weapon rightso Granny Goodness is gonna take advantage
of her disarmament and blast a hole right throughher torso with a beam from her apocalyptic

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staff so Proxima's out. Okay. Oh, suddenly GrannyGoodness gets her whole head bashed in by Calaback,
Darkseid's son himself, and her own teammate.What? Because as the battle was going on, Ebony
Ma weaseled his way over to Calaback and whisperedinto his ear, reminding him how much he hates

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that old bag and convinced him to play Whack-a-Molewith her head. So Granny Goodness is now out
of the match. You know, I actually believe thathe probably does hate her. Everyone hates her.
But also that's elder abuse, by the way. Now,while that's going on, Steppenwolf, you know,
he noticed Kull Obsidian with his axe. And soSteppenwolf is going to attack him with his
own powerful electro axe, starting by slammingit into the ground near Kull, which is going

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to cause the shockwave that knocks him intothe air. And Steppenwolf is going to follow
up by hurling his axe like quick as lightningright at Kull, just slicing him into midair.
How sharp is Steppenwolf's axe? Cause Kull islike really durable. It can literally cut through
any material. But can it cut through atoms?Sure, why the fuck not? You are a liar, sir.

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Okay, but anyway, guess what? Super giant, she'sstill on the battlefield. She's such a powerful
omnipath that even if her body's destroyed,she survives as a psionic spirit. So the only
thing Dark Sight's Omega Beam did to her wasmake her intangible. So like as this psionic
entity, she's gonna read the mind of Darkseid,and therefore she learns the secret to the

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Omega effect, and she's gonna feed that informationto Thanos, who's all healed up by this point,
and Thanos is gonna augment his own cosmic powersto mimic the energy wavelength of Darkseid's
Omega Beams. So then, Thanos, straight up OmegaBeams, Steppenwolf, the fuck outta here. What
the heck? That's right. Okay, well. Dr. Bedlamhas been floating around as a disembodied energy

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bank too, just like Supergiant. And since Desaadwas able to repair one of his android bodies
during this battle, Bedlam is going to be ableto take control of that again, fully aware
of what Supergiant did. So he's going to unleashone of his paranoid pills on Thanos. And his

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fumes cause Thanos to not only blast CorvusGlaive into oblivion, but also the stress causes
Thanos to forget how to use the Omega effect.Well that's convenient. If Dr. Bedlam is aware
of Supergiant, she's going to be aware of him,and she's a psychic parasite, so she's going

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to latch onto him and devour his mind. So nowDr. Bedlam is officially gone from this match
now. Oh, well, Supergiant, you know, she seemsto know so much, she'll probably go for Darkseid's
mind next, right? Since- He's the leader. Sure.Except surprise, she's going to get tricked
by Dessahd's psychic manipulations into goingfor his own mind, since he cast a mental illusion

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to disguise himself as Darkseid. And that'ssomething he does all the time in the comics.
So Supergiant, instead of psychically attackingDarkseid, she's going to get sucked into a
psychic torture device that Dessahd engineered.And so her psionic form is going to get absorbed.
and converted into energy that Dasad weaponizesagainst Ebony Maw. He's going to use that device

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to blast him with beams of energy. Wait, okay.You lost me. So Dasad made a device that can
somehow torture minds, but also convert theminto energy and then also blast them out as
a weapon. Yes. That's pretty convenient, don'tyou think? Oh, I'm sorry. Your feeble mind
can't comprehend fourth world technology. stupid.Ebony Maw is just going to teleport out of

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the way of Dessod's blast and then he's goingto counter with a volley of fireballs. Okay,
except without realizing it, Ebony Maw teleportedin front of Kelebek, who, you know, remembers
how Ebony manipulated him earlier and Kelebekis going to straight up slam his club straight
down onto Ebony from behind like a hammer toa nail, just creating this Ebony smear on the

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ground beneath him. Alright, uh, well meanwhileThane approaches Desaud and he's gonna snatch
him with his right hand which puts Desaud intothis amber energy construct which basically
traps him forever in a state of living deathand now the only mind that Desaud can torture

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is his own for all eternity. And then Thaneapproaches Kelebak and grabs him with his left
hand which just instantly kills Kelebak. Sothese guys got the old one-two combo here from
Thane, you know, death. for Kalebeck and a fateworse than death for Dasan. Okay, well speaking
of living death, Thane is going to suddenlybe zapped by Darkseid's Omega Beams, which

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zigzagged their way behind him and deliveredDarkseid's Omega Sanction. So now Thane is
trapped in an eternal and torturous cycle ofpain, death, and rebirth across alternate realities.
That's what the Omega Sanction does? Yeah. Well...So it's just Thanos and Darkseid exactly how

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I wanted. Oh, me too pal, me too. Revenge isgonna be so sweet because the paranoid pill
that Bedlam used on Thanos that wears off bythis point and he remembers how to use this
omega sanction himself. So the turntables haveturned and Thanos puts Darkseid into this omega
sanction and just relishes in the endless deathand defeat of his foe. So the match is over.

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Thanos beats Darkseid. If I could drop my podcastmic, I would. Oh, you should. Like you should
drop it and never pick it up again, becauseyou sound stupid. Darkseid would just generate
a boom tube between him and Thanos, as wellas like a second portal behind Thanos. So Thanos
is just going to omega sanction himself likethe purple bitch he is. Match over. Oh, shit,

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I think you forgot. that I mentioned that CorvusGlaive can't die if his blade isn't destroyed.
So while Darkseid thinks he just won the fight,he's going to find himself straight up sliced
in half by Corvus Glaive, who was resurrectedby his weapon. So now the match is over and
the joke's on you. But why? I think the joke'sactually on you because Thanos did, in fact,

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destroy Corvus's blade when he killed him, youknow, under the influence of the paranoid pills.
So sorry, but no. Well, we'll see what actuallyhappens. We'll go ahead and run the stats on
these teams to find out who will win. And eitherCorvus Glaive resurrects and slices Darkseid
in two, or Corvus Glaive does not resurrectbecause his weapon was destroyed. Right, it

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all comes down to whether Thanos destroyed Corvus'weapon, which I'm sure he did. Let's go ahead
and run the stats and come back with a winner.Hey G9K, hit it. Inputting data, running calculations,
processing results, simulations complete. Allright, that was a fun matchup, a really close
matchup, surprisingly close after we put inall the stats. Well, I mean, it wasn't too

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surprising that Darkseid was the most powerfulon either of our rosters. Yeah, Darkseid ended
up winning 89.1% of all of his matches, basicallynine out of 10 fights against the Black Order
and Thanos. Darkseid won. He's a big ass cheatercharacter. I mean not by much because Thanos
wasn't too far behind in his win rate, winning87.1% of his matches. Yeah, they're definitely

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the most powerful characters on their respectiveteams, just wiping the floor with the other
respective generals. Now what I thought wasinteresting was that while I had probably the
more balanced team, on your side you had themost powerful characters in Proxima, Midnight,
and Supergiant, but also the weakest when itcame to Thane. Yeah, Thane actually wasn't
impressive. Statistically at all which makesme hope that I didn't choose incorrectly in

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picking him for this team duel because Yeah,he has massive damage potential with the abilities
of both of his arms And he has you know enhancedphysicals being an inhuman but other than that
he's not too impressive Statistically comparedto the new gods, you know things like his evasiveness
and perception just weren't that great Yeah,he only won twenty point eight percent of his

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matches He was kind of my wild card for thisteam duel though. I don't know if I really
had a wild card. I was kind of surprised thatmy weakest character was Kanto. I thought it
was going to be Dasad because I figured he wasthe least warrior-esque of the group, but it
turns out he's pretty smart and Kanto is prettyunimpressive. Yeah, the guy just carries a

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sword and wears a ridiculous Renaissance fairoutfit. I gotta say, he definitely does not
look like Darkseid's chief assassin. That'sexactly what he wants you to think. I think
the biggest discrepancy between the team statswas versatility. Marvel's guys were way more
versatile than DC's guys. And durability, actuallyDC's guys were way more durable overall than

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the Marvel team, largely because Darkseid'sdurability is off the charts. And also they're
all new gods, whereas the Black Order are apretty diverse group of aliens from across
the universe. So I actually wasn't surprisedthat they were more versatile. Considering
all the results, all the stats, Jonathan, who'swinning this match? Do you think? I think it's

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going to be really close. I'm not sure who'sgoing to win, but I really hope it's Darksides
Elite because I just really don't want him tolose to Thanos. I hate Thanos. Dude sucks.
And I think our poll takers on Instagram agreebecause 64% of them voted in favor of Darksides
Elite over the Black Order. The fools! AG9K,the results please. Here you are, sir. Alright,

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the winner in this team matchup between DarkSide'sElite and the Black Order is... DarkSide's
Elite. Yes! It was pretty close though. Outof 1,000 matches, DarkSide's Elite beat the
Black Order. 511 times. So their win rate was51.1% over the Black Order's 48.9%. Yeah, they

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only won 489 out of the 1000 battles. Oh wow,that's not pretty close. That's really close.
I figured it would be, but it's still surprising.Thanos just cannot beat Darkseid. What the
fuck? What does he gotta do to beat this guy?Nothing, he can't. There's nothing he could
do. Just accept it already. Is he gonna haveto pull out his Infinity Gauntlet again? Like

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he did last time? Oh, does Darkseid need topull out his Anti-Life Equation? No, it's not
gonna do anything to the Infinity Gauntlet.It's gonna- I think we've already established
this. Yes it is. It's gonna put Thanos withhis Infinity Gauntlet under the control of
Darkseid. Why does this not make sense to you?Because Thanos, when he has the Infinity Gauntlet,

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has the Mind Stone, which would protect himfrom something like the Anti-Life Equation.
and he has the reality stone, which would alsodo the same thing. Your point is, is there
a life stone on the infinity gauntlet? Becauseas long as Thanos is alive, he's under dark
sides control when he has the anti life equation.There's a soul stone. Oh, shit. So there you
go. There you go. Thanos wins. Suck it, nerds.Clearly, he doesn't. So you, you know, reverse

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card. No, you that does it for this duel, guys.H2 9K helped close this out. Thanks for listening
to Dynamic Duel. Visit the show's website atdynamicDuel.com and follow us on Instagram
at dynamicDuelpodcast. You can support the showon Patreon at patreon.com slash dynamicDuel

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In our next episode, we will be doing anotherduel episode. This time we are pitting Talon,

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a Batman villain from The Court of Owls, againstNico Minoru, who is a Runaways character and
affiliated with a different cult in Marvel knownas The Pride. But that does it for this episode,
guys. We want to give a big thanks to our executiveproducers, Ken Johnson, John Sturowski, Zachary
Hepburn, Dustin Balcom, Mickey Matangian, BrandonEstergard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yeaton. Austin

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Wyselowski, AJ Dunkerley, Nick Abonto, ScottCamacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Spies, Dean Molesky,
Devin Davis, Joseph Kirsting, Josh Leiner, MikeWilliams, and Oscar Galvez for helping to make
this podcast possible. We'll talk to you guysnext week. Up up and away, true believers.
Neither the Infinity Gauntlet nor the Anti-LifeEquation can match the supreme might of my

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