December 7, 2025 • 36 mins
Slowed down, stuffed, and still smoking — Tony Katz and Fingers Malloy ride out Thanksgiving weekend with a rare Arturo Fuente and a whole lot of cultural madness.
Tony and Fingers ease into the holiday haze with the Arturo Fuente Rare Pink “Sophisticated Hooker” — a 7¼ x 53 Diadema with an Ecuadorian Habano wrapper, Dominican and Nicaraguan fillers, and a white-pepper spice that works its way across the palate. They break down why Rare Pinks are so coveted, whether they’re worth the chase, and how MSRP ($17.75) becomes fantasy once the secondary market gets involved.
The guys also recap Tony’s Thanksgiving cigar marathon (yes, six cigars in 30 hours), the joys of brisket smoking overnight, and why cold-weather cigar logistics separate the casuals from the committed.
From there, they swing into a deeply fun, deeply ridiculous cultural grab bag:
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Influencers behaving badly — including a chronic dine-and-dash “Instagram star” arrested six times for scamming New York restaurants, even trying to barter stolen kitchen shears at Peter Luger’s.
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The decline of thank-you notes and the rise of singing telegrams — including Fingers’ nightmare scenario of receiving one.
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Black Friday memories, mayhem, and today’s endless “deals” — from 98-inch TVs under $1,000 to conversations about whether any of us really need designer sneakers, more AirPods, or another laptop.
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PC vs. Mac truce negotiations, because do either of them even know what version of Windows exists anymore?
Throughout, Tony and Fingers keep the Rare Pink smoke rolling, noting shifts from spice to hay to wood, and reflecting on how this year’s cigars and bourbons stack up heading into their Top Cigars & Top Bourbons of 2025 lists.
It’s the perfect post-holiday episode: relaxed, flavorful, a little silly, and full of those classic Eat! Drink! Smoke! left-turn conversations you can’t get anywhere else.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It is just two days after Thanksgiving or is it
a day? Honestly, I don't know when you hear the show,
but we decided here to eat, drink smoke. Everybody's in
a turkey coma or for us, a brisket coma. Must
we be so aggressive with our reviews of bourbon and cigars. Wait,
(00:25):
are we ever aggressive? Fingers moy aggressive aggressive? No, We're
just more laid back right now than normal.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's like we have three glasses of chilb before we
start the show.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
See drink smoke.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker.
Fingers molloy, A very happy Thanksgiving weekend to you. I
assume that if you're listening to us on radio, this
is the moment where you've decided, Hey, uh, I believe
we're running low on milk.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'll run to the store and get that. No, no, no,
mother in law.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'll be back in just three hours, and you're enjoying
the show wherever it is you are.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's what I assume is going on.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
See, I thought they would just be saying to their
mother in law, let's all rally round the radio and
listen to our favorite radio program.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Honestly, that would be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So we decided we weren't going to do something new
this week, figuring a lot of people might just be
in a in a bit of just slow down mode,
and we decide to treat ourselves with something that you
don't see every day, something we've done on the show before.
This is the Arturo Fuente rare pink sophisticated hooker.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's a sophisticated hooker. You say, I don't get a
t he for that?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh t good lord.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now, for those of you wondering how you could say
such a thing on radio, this according to the legend
Carl de Fuente naming this after seeing a fishing boat
called the sophisticated hooker. Get it, hooker fishing, that's what
it is. This is a seven to one quarter by
fifty three, which means seven and one quarter inches long.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
There it is, and the ring gauge is.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Fifty three the diameter of the cigar, or how thick
it is around, good lord man, A sixty four ring
gauge would be a full one inch around. So this
is a dadima starts at a point, ends at a point,
the cap end where you cut the foot ends where
you light. I have just lit this up. This is
an Ecuadorian habano wrapper here and then.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think it is Do I have it right?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Let me double check myself here on the binder and
the filler, I did a total blank. I know Ecuador
in a bottle, Dominican in the binder and the filler.
I think there's some Nicaraguan in there as well. There's
a little bit of spice to this. The rare pinks
are certainly sought after. They're there in some ways collected.
(02:54):
Is it the best thing that our Turpointy does or
Turpointe does, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I think they've got some.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
They've got a really really nice pallett of things going on.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But this has become something.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Unique and special for people, and I figured, you know,
after Thanksgiving, let's pull it out and relax.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I'm really happy that you decided to do this cigar.
But what I'm really curious about, Tony, is how many
cigars you had on Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving because it's it's kind
of a weird holiday when it comes to cigar smoking,
because the families all around you want to spend as
(03:35):
much time with family as possible, but also it's really
a day of meals and then relaxation. Well, so you
have to peel away to smoke your cigars. So how
many cigars did you smoke?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So first, a cigar smoking on Thanksgiving totally depends on weather, right,
how cold it is. If you're in a place it's cold,
it's a much more difficult thing to do. Me, I've
got the studio connected to the house, very easy thing
to do. Second, I was smoking the brisket there in
the overnight Wednesday Thursday, So it's not that I had
(04:11):
to find the time.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
The time was provided to me.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
But if I had on Thanksgiving with the people here
and the football and everything else, four on Thanksgiving Day itself, wow,
that's not that would not be surprising. But between the
start of the brisket and the actual meal, because we.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Do a lunchtime meal, so we do the meal, it
was like one thirty. So when we did it six six.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
In a thirty hour period, God bless you. Yeah, I know,
America's great, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You're making up for the fact that I'm not having
any because it isn't because I don't want to. It's
just I'm at that point in my life where I
do not want to sit outside when it's thirty degrees out.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's focus and you're up in Michigan and doing ale
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So we grab the sophisticated hooker.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I wanted a little bit of that spice that comes
with this as a compliment to you know what is
a very base rich.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Kind of meal depending on who you are. The wrapper
here is very very attractive.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It is very smooth, nice bit of oil, almost a
touch of sueded. The hef done this cigar seven and
a quarter by fifty three. I could use a touch more,
but it still feels good. And it's got this at
least this one. It's not a box press, but it's
this quasi kind of what's happening here. I think because
(05:46):
of that diadem of shape right closed foot or closed
in foot and close cap, it gets this a little
bit more oblong kind of thing going. It could have
been just how it was in my human or it
just feels great and not inexpensive.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And so this is where it gets weird. The question I.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Would ask your fingers molloy, is is this in your
humid or for what was an MSRP at the time
of seventeen dollars and seventy five cents.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I mean, we just lit this, but if you have
to have an answer right now, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So, I think the rare pink is something that if
you haven't tried it, you absolutely try it and then
decide if it's in your humid or The problem is
you don't find them at that price. It's one of
those things that you find secondary market stuff and hey,
we happy to get something in and then it's thirty
two dollars or it's thirty five dollars, and you got
to decide whether or not you want to play the
(06:38):
game on this. And I think that you should not
play it with box buying, buying boxes until you've actually.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Had the stick.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Buy one, even if you feel it's overpriced, then decide
for yourself if the rare pink is rare enough for you,
then you could search it out right, try and find deal.
Uh maybe buy it in larger measure. Now, admittedly I
do buy the hooker by the box, I absolutely do,
but I have an ur turf ar turf onete uh
(07:12):
extra vie on yeho.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
In there, which is not the rare pink version.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That is a less expensive cigar I would buy by
the box that I would smoke over this all the time,
much more my flavor profile. Uh this is this has
got a nice bit of spice. I don't know about you.
That is on the back tongue working its way into
the throat. It is it is right now for me.
Maybe it's just because of the week uh playing a
(07:38):
bit of white pepper. Uh there, but a lovely smoke
and well constructed and well put together.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah. For me, it's the roof of the mouth going
into the back of the throat. That spice is there.
You mentioned white pepper. I would agree with you, maybe
a little bit of like Hay the handfiel you mentioned
you would like a little bit more halft. To me,
it feels almost perfect. I would always like the cigar
a little bit more on that, on the heavier side.
(08:06):
But this feels really good in the hand, and you
know I would. I'm just gonna be really interested to
see if that spice picks up as we move through
the first third of the cigar.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, I will not ruin it for you.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I will not tell you what will happen between you
and your cigar. It is Thanksgiving weekend, a good chance
to just bring it on down from a lot of
insanity and family.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And hard work. Take it easy, relax, great show ahead.
We told you here.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
First, it was Eat Drink Smoke that told you that
all these influencers are absolutely ridiculous. If you follow influencers,
you're guaranteed to be disappointed because they're frauds.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
They're liars.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Admittedly, there's some people who do some things that are worthwhile,
some people who do something that are fun, and even
we have a couple people were like, yeah, they do
some really good work, but in the main, fingers, they're
awful fraud Absolutely, that's our take.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
To Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That is Fingers molloy and find us on the Twitter
x go Eat Drink Smoke, Instagram, Eat Drink Smoke, and
Oh Eat Drink Smoke podcast on Instagram Sorry and Facebook,
Eat Drink Smoke. Now, I want to say for the
record that we have never once referred to ourselves as influencers.
Never once, never, ever, ever do you think we fall
(09:37):
into the category of influencers.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Is it because we don't have the cleavage?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You just hit the nail on the head. I mean,
how many times we would go to some of these
shows and there would be a lot of cigar shows.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yes, I don't know what kind of show you were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
There'd be a lovely woman that would show up and
say something like, oh my gosh, the cigar comunity is
so welcoming. I just started my Instagram account six months
ago and I already have thirty thousand followers. And you
get on the Instagram account and it's bikini bikini, bikini, bikini, bikini, bikini,
which I've said for years, why aren't we doing the
show on a bikini?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And I believe the answer is you tried on the bikini.
That's true. I'm not going to tell people not to
make a living.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm gonna notice. And it isn't just those kinds of influencers.
It's all of these people who engage in a level
of outrage or in the world of food, the people like, hey,
we're at this great restaurant, we're trying this now, there
are some honest, decent people doing some Hey this is
a cool place. Hey check out this stuff, and where
(10:42):
I live and all that stuff. This is a story
of a woman by the name of Pei Chung first name,
pay Pei. She has been going to restaurants ordering lavishly.
She shows up dressed to the hilt and the Prada
(11:03):
this and the Gucci that, and then she says, oh,
after ordering all this food, I'm an influencer and I'm
going to give you a good review, so you should
give me this for free.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And people bought into it.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And I even go further than that, just saying I
can't pay. Yeah, no, I can't pay. Oh she's done
that if yes, and gets arrested. The story from NBC
New York. According to police records, Chung has been arrested
at least six times in the last month for ringing
up a bill at trendy restaurants and failing to pay.
Thirty four year old is known for ordering multiple courses,
(11:38):
snapping pictures of the food, and later posting that content
on her Instagram page. But every time she gets arrested,
Chung is charged with theft of services, a class A misdemeanor.
But that's like turnstile jumping in New York. So she
gets released.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So it starts.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So it didn't start with the Hey, I'm an influencer
and you should give me this for free. It starts
with I'm an influencer and I don't have any money
and I'm not gonna pay you.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yes, she starts like that, yes, So what happened was
that this what true the attention of NBC New York
is this restaurant owner actually recognized her name because you
know her account and her profile. It's starting to, you know,
appear on the radar of these restaurant owners. And he's like,
(12:26):
I'm not No, you're not eating here, Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Go.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And so she tried to go to other restaurants, and
she's tried over time, because, like you said, she's dressed
to the nines and she has the Prada bags and
all that stuff where she'll try to barter after she eats. Well,
I got nice shoes on, I got I got a beautiful.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Per At one moment, according to one of the stories,
she's at Peter Luger's right, steakhouse of steakhouses right, absolutely
phenomenal place.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
She's given the bill, She's like, no, I.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Can't pay this, but hey, let me see what I
have in my bag, like your grandmother offering up the
sweet and low. She stole from the local diner or
maybe a plum she had wrapped in a paper towel.
She's like, well, I've got this, I've got that. At
one moment, offered up a set of kitchen shears, and
she probably stole from another restaurant. She's walking around with
(13:16):
scissors that could possibly have been used. What I have
many many questions? How are you arrested for theft six
times and not in jail? How are you not in jail?
There comes a moment where this becomes so serialized that
you you don't you don't get to just keep walking
(13:37):
around and walking into places. How is it possible that
every restaurant doesn't have a picture of her that says,
do not serve this woman, do not serve this thieving tramp?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Wow? What you walk around? Tramp? In there? You walk
around stealing from restaurants.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I get to say that it used to be where
wanted posts and there are guys who do this too.
It used to be wanted posters would be at the
post office. Now they have to be at upscale restaurants.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
They used to take the bad checks and tape them
to the cash register. Oh my god, Oh Tommy bounced
to check to you. Oh my gosh, I know Tommy.
We went to high school together.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But here's the problem with this is there are too
many people in society today that applaud this type of
behavior and say, yeah, another instance of someone sticking it
to the man's restaurants.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Can you think that's happening. Oh, she's so great, she's
sticking it.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
To the man.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well, she has a Instagram account that I'm assuming. I
haven't looked up her account to see how many followers
she has, but if this is her thing, and if
it's known that she is basically stealing meals and getting arrested,
there has to be an audience out there. That's if
(14:58):
you're following her, you're condoning this behavior.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
She has twenty four nine hundred followers. I think I
think that's her. I'm looking at the pictures of food
and pictures of her in various levels of undress, and
because that that's yeah, that that that's her. So I
think that's it. Listen, that's the account. I'm shureing a picture.
(15:28):
I don't think she got that lingerie from a restaurant.
I'm just I'm just pretty sure. I if people are like,
good for you, and you're sticking it to the man.
That we've often discussed the end of civilization. That's that's
a great example of it. I don't think people are
like that, though, I think more people are like I
hope I'm there when she gets thrown out my local place.
(15:52):
My Peter Luger is an institution. That's who you take
advantage of.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
No no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, you know more about Peter Lugers than I do.
I'm assuming that Peter Luger is based on the conversation
we're having right now, if you wanted to go in
and get yourself a ribbi, you're gonna be spending one
hundred and fifty two hundred dollars for that ribby.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I would assume you're going to spend a fair amount
of money.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You don't think that there are people out there that
are saying to themselves, Oh, how dare they charge that
much for a stake? How dare they charge that much
for a meal? They must be making money, hand over fist.
Good for her sticking it to the man.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
By the way, if you are on the website for
Peter Lugers, Peter Luger, lu g e Er Peterluger dot com.
There is no price. If you have to ask the price.
I just want to say, for the record, you cannot
afford Peter Luger.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well that I freely admit that I can't afford Peter Luger.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
There could be some I guess it's New York, so
I guess there could be some Mom Donnie voters who
feel that way, you know, sticking it to the man.
Normal people are like, throw this woman in jail and
keep her in jail.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Well, she doesn't go to jail.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
And that's the part, man, that's the part, that's what
most frustrating.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
How is it possible that if I jwalk, I get
a nineteen thousand dollars ticket. She steals from restaurants and
she's prompting on her Instagram New York City.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
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Speaker 1 (17:23):
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Speaker 3 (17:34):
I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That is Fingers molloy smoking the Sophisticated Hooker.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It's named after a fishing boat.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
People settle down this from Artura point day part of
their Rare Pink collection seven or a quarter by fifty
three that Ecuador and Habano. We're in the first third
of the cigar, and the spice is absolutely there.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
What do you think made that fishing boat sophisticated? You
think they had AMNFM radio on it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I believe that the seats made a fine Corinthian leather.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That's that's what I believe. And and they had a
wide array of BoA's.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
That's that's a that's the that is the the telltale
sign of sophistication.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
That is so true. This cigar, the spice for me
has picked up a little bit, Yeah, but not not
as much as I thought it would. But I'm sure
it's going to probably continue to pick up for me. Actually,
now that that hey that I was talking about's kind
of gone away and it's kind of morphed more into
a wood note, I'm not really getting any sweetness off
(18:36):
the cigar.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I think that's accurate. No, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
say that at this point. And with everything we we
we've talked about this cigar before. We're just taking it
easy after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Just like you are.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And we wanted to grab something we we already knew
and a little bit of celebration. It's been a long
week and it's been a long year, Fingers Maloya. As
we're starting to gear up, Fingers reminded me that we
have to start gearing up for our top cigars and
top bourbons of twenty twenty five. And there were some
flat out bangers this year. There were some monsters this year,
(19:09):
and I am at a total loss of where I'm
gonna be. I think I've got a pretty good grasp
on cigars. I don't have any grasp on where I'm
gonna be on bourbons. There were so many things didn't
agree with me. So many things just made me say,
this is special and fun and I'm not sure where
to begin.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I feel like a theme for this year, and to
the point where it's probably gotten to the point where
some of our listeners are yelling at the radio, you're
talking about this again. It was a value conversation where
we kept saying to ourselves, Man, I wish this cigar
were about three or four dollars cheaper than it is. Yeah,
I feel like that was a theme almost throughout the
entire year.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
It was.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I am not going to utilize that at all in
my decisions for what I thought was the best. The
value will not play a part in my decisions. As
per tradition, Yes, fingers will away. I picked the cigars,
and I picked the bourbon or if it's a rye
or something else. By the way, I'm pretty sure there's
something on my list that is not a bourbon nor
a rye.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
No kidding, oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We will get to it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But no matter what, with any cigar that you're smoking,
whether you're smoking along with us at eat, drink, smoke
or not, you want to get your notebook out, any
spiral notebook will do what did you eat today, what'd
you drink today?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The weather that all affects your palette.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Then take the cigar and break it up into thirds
in your mind first third, second, third, final third, and
then write down your flavors.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
What is it that you're.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Getting out of the cigar, And when you try that
cigar a month from now, six months from now, you
compare notes, get an idea of the through line. It's like, okay,
that's what I got out of the cigar.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
It is so important to do that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
We've got this show for that, right, the show is
my notebook in a way, but you want to write
it down. It's so important, you'll remember it so well
and you'll be amazed at how you start building up
your cigar knowledge. I think it's just one of those
clever tricks. It's like journal and writing a diary.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
This is something that's been going on for forever. It's
the same same concept, same same philosophy.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There you bring that up. I really wish That's one
of the things I got into when I had our
first kid, was I wish I would have had some
sort of journal, yeah, to jog my memory, you know,
when I can look back and you know what it's
funny is now Facebook? Is that right? To be able
to back at Facebook memories?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It really does help.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It is kind of amazing because I'll get stuff like
I don't remember that happening, and I have to really
go back and reasearch and be like, oh, yeah, that
it is very very cool. Do you when so this
is the season of course with Christmas cards and all
that and gift cards, thank you cards?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Right? Do you write thank you cards? No?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Because generally I don't really have anyone in my life
that gives me much to where I would send them
a thank you card.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Wow, that's fantastic. Do you have your own stationary from
the desk of Maloy?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Now, I'm just trying to wrap my head about how
sad that sounds.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I have stationary, do you. I think it's extremely extremely important.
I gave stationary to both my kids. Oh their names
on it. The importance of the thank you note cannot
be understated.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I agree with you. I have stationary. At the top
of it, it says Hilton Garden in nicely done. But
I whenever I write a card, I did it at first.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It came to me later.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I put the date on it because people save things
and if it's like, hey when was this? When did
I get this? It helps jog the memory. Just put
the date on, I put month and year. I don't know, Sorry,
I put the day. I put month and year in
the top right corner because I just I don't know.
I think it's a little bit of a touch, like
it's a little bit of this. This mattered to me.
(22:46):
I think it's I think it's incredibly important. Along with
your notebook, start that this holiday season, this Christmas season, I.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Would really be curious and maybe people could, you know,
hit us on social media and let us know if
people still send thank you cards out anymore. Because everything's
so digitalized now, people send emails and think that that's
the appropriate way to thank people.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It is not.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
It is in no way appropriate to send somebody in
an email to thank them. If it's a simple thing
with a friend, you send them a text, that's fine.
If it's a gift for an actual moment, it's it's
for a gift, it's for a recommendation, it's for a.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Lead in business.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
No no, no, no, no, no, say thank you like
a grown up.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm big on the grown up thing.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh you know, I like to send singing telegrams.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
If honestly, if you want to send a singing telegram,
this we will allow.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Singing telegrams will be alone.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Do you think that still? You think it is easy
to send a singing telegram in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I want to send you one right now.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, I would prefer thee too late, too late.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It's happening, singing telegram.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's gonna come back. I'm sorry, Grandpa. Those days are over.
That's what it's going to say.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I found the website. It is.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
The best singing telegrams. Oh you know what I got,
I got it. I went with your town. But I'm
not gonna tell people where you live, so I'll just
larger Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Where we come from, Indianapolis, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And they was, they say to you, would you like
it sent on thirty three or forty five?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Nice? It's one hundred ninety nine dollars. It's one hundred
and ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Dollars to send a singing uh telegram. And they've got
I've got a song list you can do just the
way you are.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
We are the champions.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Foxy Lady by Jimmy Hendricks, Brown Eyed Girls, Sweet Child
of Mind.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I'll send you a little sweet child. I'm that's good. No, No,
that's that's that's no, that's no problem.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I gonna reserve my Oh yeah, please reserve reserve it.
I'm sure that they're booked up until at least June
of next year.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, come on, do you want a singing telegram, I'll
send it to.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, that sounds terrible. It was just a throwaway joke,
and now I wish it would have went away about
ninety seconds ago.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
But now it's something that everybody must see fingers Belloy
single handily bring them back the singing telegram.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, and what's the purpose of getting the singing telegram
if you don't have a phone nearby so you can
post it on the gram.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
That's true. That is true.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
This whole thing about saying thank you, this falls into
the category of wedding gift? Do is a wedding gift cash?
Or is wedding gift to gift?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's cash?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay, So I agree with you, except I have a
pair of candlesticks that we use for Jewish holidays. I
have a vase from somebody I grew up with who
I don't speak to anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We use them all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
These things last, and it's very unique that they do last,
that it's been years and they're still there, and they're
still a part of what goes on, and those people
aren't for varying reasons, not in every gaze, but in
varying reasons. But I think it's interesting. It has kind
of turned me on the idea of maybe there's something there.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Cash matters because things are purchased with the cash and
utilize with the cash. Paying for the wedding for example,
whatever the case may be, and it is helpful, but man,
the gift is something.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I think that the art of sending a thank you
note is gone, or just being thankful in general. If
only we had a day of the year where people
just sat back and had these thoughts about being thankful
and really celebrated thankfulness.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Isn't that ruth Buzzy Day.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Ruth Buzzy Day for some of us is every day.
That's true. By the way, that's a holiday that we
should put together. We should, on the anniversary of her death,
celebrate Ruth Buzzy Day, and everybody hits everyone with a purse.
It used to be the Black Friday was a moment
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of coming together, of planning and of excitement, and you
wake up early and you get to your favorite store
because there were doorbuster.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Deals Fingers maloy Doorbuster deals.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And then, of course came the advent to the cell phone,
and Black Friday became that day where you sat home
and watched videos of really overweight women or unbelievably stupid
men beating.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
The living crap out of each other over a toaster.
Shalla la lah I missed those days too.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
See Drink Smoke I'm Tony Katz. That is Fingers Maloy.
Don't forget our books. Let's go Bourbon, Let's go bbq,
Let's go barbecue. They're available at Amazon dot com. Perfect
gifts for Christmas, Hanukah, anything that you should celebrate.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So you know we mentioned earlier about where we discussed
earlier Facebook memories, right, and I had some Facebook memories
from Black Friday twenty twelve. You want to hear some
of them from?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I didn't have to stand in line at Walmart to
save on this Xbox game. I hit it behind an
Alan Colmbs book three weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You did an Alan Comes joke.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Alan Combs was half of Hannity and Combs, the original
show on Fox News Channel. Alan Combs was on the
political left. Sean Hannity was on the political right. Alan
Colmes passed away some years ago. I disagreed with him
vehemently politically. Everything I ever heard about that guy, most
unbelievably decent cat you would ever meet. I'd be curious
(28:35):
to hear his thoughts about today's political insanitay and Alan
comes reference as a.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Poll man just shoved an old man aside at Walmart,
I saved fifteen percent on a Wei game and he
got five stitches. I never felt so alive.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
You something tells me we have our next book. Everybody,
But there are Black Friday deals now that go on
all week right They started at the beginning of the week.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
They're still going on right now. I believe the.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Black Friday deals now extend into May, right right.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Before the beginning of summer. So here's a list. If
you haven't gotten.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Your Black Friday deals yet, let me bring this to you.
This is a list where the people over there at CNN,
who are known for their Black Friday expertise, they hand
picked fingers maloy. Oh they did not use AI.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We're gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They handpicked a list of the ninety best Black Friday
deals to beat the holiday rush. I want you right
now to go to your local AI, and I want
you to put in give me a list of the
best of the ninety best Black Friday deals. Okay, I
want to see if AI's list is better than the
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list from the experts at CNN.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I don't know who it was.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I think you may have told me this, But there
are people who are posting on so social media. I
don't need any more deals on big screen TVs. But
if I could have a cheaper price for milk, that.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Would be great. No, I did not.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
If the groceries could just be less, that would be terrific,
Thank you so very much. And they're they're they're not wrong.
Some of them are the basics. The Apple air Pods
on sale for two hundred and twenty dollars, some chargers.
Here's Hokahs, Hokah sneakers. Do you wear the hookahs? Hoka
(30:32):
they're big? The on clouds are big. Do you wear
any of those? Do you wear the Are you wearing
designer sneakers right now?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
And no, I'm not, But I've never heard of Hokah before.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
No, No, they make designer stuff. You can get those
for one hundred dollars at foot locker. One hundred dollars
right now at foot locker.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's the thing, though, that is.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That is a thing.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I have seen some completely insane deals on laptops and
you who came across a ninety eight inch television.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I couldn't believe it. So I walked into one of
these big box warehouse stores.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
It was a warehouse store, so it wasn't the best.
Now you're buying, wasn't the best?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
No, And there was this beautiful ninety eight inch TV.
Did your cost come with a co No, it did not.
Oh but it was a bj BJ's warehouse. Ah yeah.
Uh so I went in there and there was a
TV ninety eight inches, a TLC TV TCL that No, TLC.
(31:36):
That was a chasing waterfall there. It is TCL television.
Now the price tag said normally tony two thousand dollars TV.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Before you go any further, okay.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Ninety eight inches of television.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I'm going to now say, for the record, there is
such a thing as too big.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Okay, now you're just talking crazy talk. You're talking crazy talk.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I will admit to you that I have in the
studio here a seventy five inch T Yes. And when
I first got this and put this up, like you
know what, it's too big, it's too much. I'm gonna
take it back and get a sixty five inch TV.
And I believe it was Fingers malloy who said, nah,
it's fine.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I said, give it a week, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Oh my gosh, it is the most And by the way,
this wall could handle a ninety eight inch. Yes, this
could absolutely handle a ninety eight inch TV.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Now I don't buy TCL. Yeah, I have my rules.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That is made in China, and I do everything I
can not to buy it from China, not to bring
politics into it.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
But boy's got to have some standards, and that's mine.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So this TV ninety eight inches of television, yes, normally
nineteen hundred and ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yes, and it was on And now again, I don't
know if this is like Cohle's, where you know everything's
on sale and oh it really was never two thousand dollars, uh,
nine hundred and ninety eight dollars under a thousand dollars.
And I'm looking at this and I'm having flashbacks to
when I purchased my first big screen TV. It was
a fifty five inch Mitsubishi sixteen x nine screen format
(33:12):
and it was twenty six hundred dollars and that was
on sale. And now you can get a ninety eight
inch TV for.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I believe my first big screen was a Panasonic and
I think it was forty eight inches, but it might
have only been forty two inches, and I think I
paid somewhere between twelve and fourteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
It's crazy. Yeah, even more of a flashback. I was
a college student early nineties, and I had a Sears
charge card right and it was getting right at the
beginning of football season, and I ran out and I
got the biggest TV I could afford. It was I
can't remember my credit limit was on the Seers charge card,
(33:51):
but I got a thirty two inch TV tube TV
and it seemed huge. It weighed seven hundred and five
pounds tony if I remember correctly. This was in nineteen
ninety two or something like that. I paid eight hundred
dollars for it for thirty two inch TV. My how
times have changed.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
You paid eight hundred dollars for it? Yeah. Wow, sounds
like a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
No, But the prices, of course on tech always come
down amazing, and there have been deals on laptop. So
this is a Microsoft thirteen inch surface laptop. It's five
hundred and fifty bucks at best Buy, and I saw
I have seen stuff with like the Chromebooks and things
like that.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It's one hundred ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
It is unbelievable how easy it is to access the
world for what is seemingly a very inexpensive number in
today's world.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You get down to that price, I have to ask
you. You know you're a Mac guy, So I am, and
I'm We're not going to get in this whole Max
snobbery thing. But I've been a Mac guy for so long,
I don't know how difficult of a transition it would
be to go to a PC.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So in the work that I do, the radio work
that I do, you guys know we do other radio work.
Fingers as a show in Michigan. I have a morning
show in Indianapolis. I have a nationally syndicated radio show. And
I have a work laptop. It's right there. It is
right there. It's an HP laptop right there. I use
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that to make sure that the live stream looks good,
and that's it, Okay. I don't use it for anything
at all.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
So you're using Windows.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I go to Microsoft Edge, which is their browser, okay,
and I go to YouTube just to make sure everything
is looking appropriate.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And that's all I do. That's the only thing I
use that for. I don't even know why I have
it there.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I don't even know what Windows are they up to now?
Do they still call it Windows.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I assume, yeah, I assume they still call it Windows
Windows fourteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I haven't used a PC. I haven't had a PC
since I had a IBM think pad.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Right. It weighed seventy four pounds.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yes, exactly, the max snobbery is. It's not snobbery. I'm
in that ecosystem. I'm not moving from that ecosystem. I
just don't want to learn. I don't want to have
to engage the people who have Android or Google phones.
They seem very happy, they seem like very like it
somehow works better, and I just I don't know what
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better is? How much time do I have to spend
with it to be like, oh, yeah, that uploaded half
a millisecond faster.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Now my life's complete.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Its been ten years since I've had an Android phone.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
We're gonna compare Black Friday deals between CNN and AI
coming up
It is just two days after Thanksgiving or is it
a day? Honestly, I don't know when you hear the show,
but we decided here to eat, drink smoke. Everybody's in
a turkey coma or for us, a brisket coma. Must
we be so aggressive with our reviews of bourbon and cigars. Wait,
(00:25):
are we ever aggressive? Fingers moy aggressive aggressive? No, We're
just more laid back right now than normal.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's like we have three glasses of chilb before we
start the show.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
See drink smoke.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker.
Fingers molloy, A very happy Thanksgiving weekend to you. I
assume that if you're listening to us on radio, this
is the moment where you've decided, Hey, uh, I believe
we're running low on milk.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'll run to the store and get that. No, no, no,
mother in law.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'll be back in just three hours, and you're enjoying
the show wherever it is you are.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's what I assume is going on.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
See, I thought they would just be saying to their
mother in law, let's all rally round the radio and
listen to our favorite radio program.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Honestly, that would be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So we decided we weren't going to do something new
this week, figuring a lot of people might just be
in a in a bit of just slow down mode,
and we decide to treat ourselves with something that you
don't see every day, something we've done on the show before.
This is the Arturo Fuente rare pink sophisticated hooker.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's a sophisticated hooker. You say, I don't get a
t he for that?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh t good lord.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now, for those of you wondering how you could say
such a thing on radio, this according to the legend
Carl de Fuente naming this after seeing a fishing boat
called the sophisticated hooker. Get it, hooker fishing, that's what
it is. This is a seven to one quarter by
fifty three, which means seven and one quarter inches long.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
There it is, and the ring gauge is.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Fifty three the diameter of the cigar, or how thick
it is around, good lord man, A sixty four ring
gauge would be a full one inch around. So this
is a dadima starts at a point, ends at a point,
the cap end where you cut the foot ends where
you light. I have just lit this up. This is
an Ecuadorian habano wrapper here and then.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think it is Do I have it right?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Let me double check myself here on the binder and
the filler, I did a total blank. I know Ecuador
in a bottle, Dominican in the binder and the filler.
I think there's some Nicaraguan in there as well. There's
a little bit of spice to this. The rare pinks
are certainly sought after. They're there in some ways collected.
(02:54):
Is it the best thing that our Turpointy does or
Turpointe does, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I think they've got some.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
They've got a really really nice pallett of things going on.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But this has become something.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Unique and special for people, and I figured, you know,
after Thanksgiving, let's pull it out and relax.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I'm really happy that you decided to do this cigar.
But what I'm really curious about, Tony, is how many
cigars you had on Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving because it's it's kind
of a weird holiday when it comes to cigar smoking,
because the families all around you want to spend as
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much time with family as possible, but also it's really
a day of meals and then relaxation. Well, so you
have to peel away to smoke your cigars. So how
many cigars did you smoke?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So first, a cigar smoking on Thanksgiving totally depends on weather, right,
how cold it is. If you're in a place it's cold,
it's a much more difficult thing to do. Me, I've
got the studio connected to the house, very easy thing
to do. Second, I was smoking the brisket there in
the overnight Wednesday Thursday, So it's not that I had
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to find the time.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
The time was provided to me.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
But if I had on Thanksgiving with the people here
and the football and everything else, four on Thanksgiving Day itself, wow,
that's not that would not be surprising. But between the
start of the brisket and the actual meal, because we.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Do a lunchtime meal, so we do the meal, it
was like one thirty. So when we did it six six.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
In a thirty hour period, God bless you. Yeah, I know,
America's great, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You're making up for the fact that I'm not having
any because it isn't because I don't want to. It's
just I'm at that point in my life where I
do not want to sit outside when it's thirty degrees out.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's focus and you're up in Michigan and doing ale
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So we grab the sophisticated hooker.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I wanted a little bit of that spice that comes
with this as a compliment to you know what is
a very base rich.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Kind of meal depending on who you are. The wrapper
here is very very attractive.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It is very smooth, nice bit of oil, almost a
touch of sueded. The hef done this cigar seven and
a quarter by fifty three. I could use a touch more,
but it still feels good. And it's got this at
least this one. It's not a box press, but it's
this quasi kind of what's happening here. I think because
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of that diadem of shape right closed foot or closed
in foot and close cap, it gets this a little
bit more oblong kind of thing going. It could have
been just how it was in my human or it
just feels great and not inexpensive.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And so this is where it gets weird. The question I.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Would ask your fingers molloy, is is this in your
humid or for what was an MSRP at the time
of seventeen dollars and seventy five cents.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I mean, we just lit this, but if you have
to have an answer right now, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So, I think the rare pink is something that if
you haven't tried it, you absolutely try it and then
decide if it's in your humid or The problem is
you don't find them at that price. It's one of
those things that you find secondary market stuff and hey,
we happy to get something in and then it's thirty
two dollars or it's thirty five dollars, and you got
to decide whether or not you want to play the
(06:38):
game on this. And I think that you should not
play it with box buying, buying boxes until you've actually.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Had the stick.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Buy one, even if you feel it's overpriced, then decide
for yourself if the rare pink is rare enough for you,
then you could search it out right, try and find deal.
Uh maybe buy it in larger measure. Now, admittedly I
do buy the hooker by the box, I absolutely do,
but I have an ur turf ar turf onete uh
(07:12):
extra vie on yeho.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
In there, which is not the rare pink version.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That is a less expensive cigar I would buy by
the box that I would smoke over this all the time,
much more my flavor profile. Uh this is this has
got a nice bit of spice. I don't know about you.
That is on the back tongue working its way into
the throat. It is it is right now for me.
Maybe it's just because of the week uh playing a
(07:38):
bit of white pepper. Uh there, but a lovely smoke
and well constructed and well put together.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah. For me, it's the roof of the mouth going
into the back of the throat. That spice is there.
You mentioned white pepper. I would agree with you, maybe
a little bit of like Hay the handfiel you mentioned
you would like a little bit more halft. To me,
it feels almost perfect. I would always like the cigar
a little bit more on that, on the heavier side.
(08:06):
But this feels really good in the hand, and you
know I would. I'm just gonna be really interested to
see if that spice picks up as we move through
the first third of the cigar.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, I will not ruin it for you.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I will not tell you what will happen between you
and your cigar. It is Thanksgiving weekend, a good chance
to just bring it on down from a lot of
insanity and family.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And hard work. Take it easy, relax, great show ahead.
We told you here.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
First, it was Eat Drink Smoke that told you that
all these influencers are absolutely ridiculous. If you follow influencers,
you're guaranteed to be disappointed because they're frauds.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
They're liars.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Admittedly, there's some people who do some things that are worthwhile,
some people who do something that are fun, and even
we have a couple people were like, yeah, they do
some really good work, but in the main, fingers, they're
awful fraud Absolutely, that's our take.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
To Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That is Fingers molloy and find us on the Twitter
x go Eat Drink Smoke, Instagram, Eat Drink Smoke, and
Oh Eat Drink Smoke podcast on Instagram Sorry and Facebook,
Eat Drink Smoke. Now, I want to say for the
record that we have never once referred to ourselves as influencers.
Never once, never, ever, ever do you think we fall
(09:37):
into the category of influencers.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Is it because we don't have the cleavage?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You just hit the nail on the head. I mean,
how many times we would go to some of these
shows and there would be a lot of cigar shows.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yes, I don't know what kind of show you were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
There'd be a lovely woman that would show up and
say something like, oh my gosh, the cigar comunity is
so welcoming. I just started my Instagram account six months
ago and I already have thirty thousand followers. And you
get on the Instagram account and it's bikini bikini, bikini, bikini, bikini, bikini,
which I've said for years, why aren't we doing the
show on a bikini?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And I believe the answer is you tried on the bikini.
That's true. I'm not going to tell people not to
make a living.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm gonna notice. And it isn't just those kinds of influencers.
It's all of these people who engage in a level
of outrage or in the world of food, the people like, hey,
we're at this great restaurant, we're trying this now, there
are some honest, decent people doing some Hey this is
a cool place. Hey check out this stuff, and where
(10:42):
I live and all that stuff. This is a story
of a woman by the name of Pei Chung first name,
pay Pei. She has been going to restaurants ordering lavishly.
She shows up dressed to the hilt and the Prada
(11:03):
this and the Gucci that, and then she says, oh,
after ordering all this food, I'm an influencer and I'm
going to give you a good review, so you should
give me this for free.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And people bought into it.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And I even go further than that, just saying I
can't pay. Yeah, no, I can't pay. Oh she's done
that if yes, and gets arrested. The story from NBC
New York. According to police records, Chung has been arrested
at least six times in the last month for ringing
up a bill at trendy restaurants and failing to pay.
Thirty four year old is known for ordering multiple courses,
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snapping pictures of the food, and later posting that content
on her Instagram page. But every time she gets arrested,
Chung is charged with theft of services, a class A misdemeanor.
But that's like turnstile jumping in New York. So she
gets released.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So it starts.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So it didn't start with the Hey, I'm an influencer
and you should give me this for free. It starts
with I'm an influencer and I don't have any money
and I'm not gonna pay you.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yes, she starts like that, yes, So what happened was
that this what true the attention of NBC New York
is this restaurant owner actually recognized her name because you
know her account and her profile. It's starting to, you know,
appear on the radar of these restaurant owners. And he's like,
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I'm not No, you're not eating here, Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Go.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And so she tried to go to other restaurants, and
she's tried over time, because, like you said, she's dressed
to the nines and she has the Prada bags and
all that stuff where she'll try to barter after she eats. Well,
I got nice shoes on, I got I got a beautiful.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Per At one moment, according to one of the stories,
she's at Peter Luger's right, steakhouse of steakhouses right, absolutely
phenomenal place.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
She's given the bill, She's like, no, I.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Can't pay this, but hey, let me see what I
have in my bag, like your grandmother offering up the
sweet and low. She stole from the local diner or
maybe a plum she had wrapped in a paper towel.
She's like, well, I've got this, I've got that. At
one moment, offered up a set of kitchen shears, and
she probably stole from another restaurant. She's walking around with
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scissors that could possibly have been used. What I have
many many questions? How are you arrested for theft six
times and not in jail? How are you not in jail?
There comes a moment where this becomes so serialized that
you you don't you don't get to just keep walking
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around and walking into places. How is it possible that
every restaurant doesn't have a picture of her that says,
do not serve this woman, do not serve this thieving tramp?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Wow? What you walk around? Tramp? In there? You walk
around stealing from restaurants.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I get to say that it used to be where
wanted posts and there are guys who do this too.
It used to be wanted posters would be at the
post office. Now they have to be at upscale restaurants.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
They used to take the bad checks and tape them
to the cash register. Oh my god, Oh Tommy bounced
to check to you. Oh my gosh, I know Tommy.
We went to high school together.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But here's the problem with this is there are too
many people in society today that applaud this type of
behavior and say, yeah, another instance of someone sticking it
to the man's restaurants.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Can you think that's happening. Oh, she's so great, she's
sticking it.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
To the man.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well, she has a Instagram account that I'm assuming. I
haven't looked up her account to see how many followers
she has, but if this is her thing, and if
it's known that she is basically stealing meals and getting arrested,
there has to be an audience out there. That's if
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you're following her, you're condoning this behavior.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
She has twenty four nine hundred followers. I think I
think that's her. I'm looking at the pictures of food
and pictures of her in various levels of undress, and
because that that's yeah, that that that's her. So I
think that's it. Listen, that's the account. I'm shureing a picture.
(15:28):
I don't think she got that lingerie from a restaurant.
I'm just I'm just pretty sure. I if people are like,
good for you, and you're sticking it to the man.
That we've often discussed the end of civilization. That's that's
a great example of it. I don't think people are
like that, though, I think more people are like I
hope I'm there when she gets thrown out my local place.
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My Peter Luger is an institution. That's who you take
advantage of.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
No no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, you know more about Peter Lugers than I do.
I'm assuming that Peter Luger is based on the conversation
we're having right now, if you wanted to go in
and get yourself a ribbi, you're gonna be spending one
hundred and fifty two hundred dollars for that ribby.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I would assume you're going to spend a fair amount
of money.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You don't think that there are people out there that
are saying to themselves, Oh, how dare they charge that
much for a stake? How dare they charge that much
for a meal? They must be making money, hand over fist.
Good for her sticking it to the man.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
By the way, if you are on the website for
Peter Lugers, Peter Luger, lu g e Er Peterluger dot com.
There is no price. If you have to ask the price.
I just want to say, for the record, you cannot
afford Peter Luger.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well that I freely admit that I can't afford Peter Luger.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
There could be some I guess it's New York, so
I guess there could be some Mom Donnie voters who
feel that way, you know, sticking it to the man.
Normal people are like, throw this woman in jail and
keep her in jail.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Well, she doesn't go to jail.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
And that's the part, man, that's the part, that's what
most frustrating.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
How is it possible that if I jwalk, I get
a nineteen thousand dollars ticket. She steals from restaurants and
she's prompting on her Instagram New York City.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Eat Drink, Smoke.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
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Speaker 3 (17:34):
I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That is Fingers molloy smoking the Sophisticated Hooker.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It's named after a fishing boat.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
People settle down this from Artura point day part of
their Rare Pink collection seven or a quarter by fifty
three that Ecuador and Habano. We're in the first third
of the cigar, and the spice is absolutely there.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
What do you think made that fishing boat sophisticated? You
think they had AMNFM radio on it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I believe that the seats made a fine Corinthian leather.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That's that's what I believe. And and they had a
wide array of BoA's.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
That's that's a that's the that is the the telltale
sign of sophistication.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
That is so true. This cigar, the spice for me
has picked up a little bit, Yeah, but not not
as much as I thought it would. But I'm sure
it's going to probably continue to pick up for me. Actually,
now that that hey that I was talking about's kind
of gone away and it's kind of morphed more into
a wood note, I'm not really getting any sweetness off
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the cigar.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I think that's accurate. No, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
say that at this point. And with everything we we
we've talked about this cigar before. We're just taking it
easy after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Just like you are.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And we wanted to grab something we we already knew
and a little bit of celebration. It's been a long
week and it's been a long year, Fingers Maloya. As
we're starting to gear up, Fingers reminded me that we
have to start gearing up for our top cigars and
top bourbons of twenty twenty five. And there were some
flat out bangers this year. There were some monsters this year,
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and I am at a total loss of where I'm
gonna be. I think I've got a pretty good grasp
on cigars. I don't have any grasp on where I'm
gonna be on bourbons. There were so many things didn't
agree with me. So many things just made me say,
this is special and fun and I'm not sure where
to begin.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I feel like a theme for this year, and to
the point where it's probably gotten to the point where
some of our listeners are yelling at the radio, you're
talking about this again. It was a value conversation where
we kept saying to ourselves, Man, I wish this cigar
were about three or four dollars cheaper than it is. Yeah,
I feel like that was a theme almost throughout the
entire year.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
It was.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I am not going to utilize that at all in
my decisions for what I thought was the best. The
value will not play a part in my decisions. As
per tradition, Yes, fingers will away. I picked the cigars,
and I picked the bourbon or if it's a rye
or something else. By the way, I'm pretty sure there's
something on my list that is not a bourbon nor
a rye.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
No kidding, oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We will get to it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But no matter what, with any cigar that you're smoking,
whether you're smoking along with us at eat, drink, smoke
or not, you want to get your notebook out, any
spiral notebook will do what did you eat today, what'd
you drink today?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The weather that all affects your palette.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Then take the cigar and break it up into thirds
in your mind first third, second, third, final third, and
then write down your flavors.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
What is it that you're.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Getting out of the cigar, And when you try that
cigar a month from now, six months from now, you
compare notes, get an idea of the through line. It's like, okay,
that's what I got out of the cigar.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
It is so important to do that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
We've got this show for that, right, the show is
my notebook in a way, but you want to write
it down. It's so important, you'll remember it so well
and you'll be amazed at how you start building up
your cigar knowledge. I think it's just one of those
clever tricks. It's like journal and writing a diary.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
This is something that's been going on for forever. It's
the same same concept, same same philosophy.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There you bring that up. I really wish That's one
of the things I got into when I had our
first kid, was I wish I would have had some
sort of journal, yeah, to jog my memory, you know,
when I can look back and you know what it's
funny is now Facebook? Is that right? To be able
to back at Facebook memories?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It really does help.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It is kind of amazing because I'll get stuff like
I don't remember that happening, and I have to really
go back and reasearch and be like, oh, yeah, that
it is very very cool. Do you when so this
is the season of course with Christmas cards and all
that and gift cards, thank you cards?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Right? Do you write thank you cards? No?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Because generally I don't really have anyone in my life
that gives me much to where I would send them
a thank you card.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Wow, that's fantastic. Do you have your own stationary from
the desk of Maloy?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Now, I'm just trying to wrap my head about how
sad that sounds.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I have stationary, do you. I think it's extremely extremely important.
I gave stationary to both my kids. Oh their names
on it. The importance of the thank you note cannot
be understated.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I agree with you. I have stationary. At the top
of it, it says Hilton Garden in nicely done. But
I whenever I write a card, I did it at first.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It came to me later.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I put the date on it because people save things
and if it's like, hey when was this? When did
I get this? It helps jog the memory. Just put
the date on, I put month and year. I don't know, Sorry,
I put the day. I put month and year in
the top right corner because I just I don't know.
I think it's a little bit of a touch, like
it's a little bit of this. This mattered to me.
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I think it's I think it's incredibly important. Along with
your notebook, start that this holiday season, this Christmas season, I.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Would really be curious and maybe people could, you know,
hit us on social media and let us know if
people still send thank you cards out anymore. Because everything's
so digitalized now, people send emails and think that that's
the appropriate way to thank people.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It is not.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
It is in no way appropriate to send somebody in
an email to thank them. If it's a simple thing
with a friend, you send them a text, that's fine.
If it's a gift for an actual moment, it's it's
for a gift, it's for a recommendation, it's for a.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Lead in business.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
No no, no, no, no, no, say thank you like
a grown up.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm big on the grown up thing.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh you know, I like to send singing telegrams.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
If honestly, if you want to send a singing telegram,
this we will allow.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Singing telegrams will be alone.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Do you think that still? You think it is easy
to send a singing telegram in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I want to send you one right now.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, I would prefer thee too late, too late.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It's happening, singing telegram.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's gonna come back. I'm sorry, Grandpa. Those days are over.
That's what it's going to say.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I found the website. It is.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
The best singing telegrams. Oh you know what I got,
I got it. I went with your town. But I'm
not gonna tell people where you live, so I'll just
larger Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Where we come from, Indianapolis, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And they was, they say to you, would you like
it sent on thirty three or forty five?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Nice? It's one hundred ninety nine dollars. It's one hundred
and ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Dollars to send a singing uh telegram. And they've got
I've got a song list you can do just the
way you are.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
We are the champions.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Foxy Lady by Jimmy Hendricks, Brown Eyed Girls, Sweet Child
of Mind.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I'll send you a little sweet child. I'm that's good. No, No,
that's that's that's no, that's no problem.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I gonna reserve my Oh yeah, please reserve reserve it.
I'm sure that they're booked up until at least June
of next year.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, come on, do you want a singing telegram, I'll
send it to.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, that sounds terrible. It was just a throwaway joke,
and now I wish it would have went away about
ninety seconds ago.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
But now it's something that everybody must see fingers Belloy
single handily bring them back the singing telegram.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, and what's the purpose of getting the singing telegram
if you don't have a phone nearby so you can
post it on the gram.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
That's true. That is true.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
This whole thing about saying thank you, this falls into
the category of wedding gift? Do is a wedding gift cash?
Or is wedding gift to gift?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's cash?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay, So I agree with you, except I have a
pair of candlesticks that we use for Jewish holidays. I
have a vase from somebody I grew up with who
I don't speak to anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We use them all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
These things last, and it's very unique that they do last,
that it's been years and they're still there, and they're
still a part of what goes on, and those people
aren't for varying reasons, not in every gaze, but in
varying reasons. But I think it's interesting. It has kind
of turned me on the idea of maybe there's something there.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Cash matters because things are purchased with the cash and
utilize with the cash. Paying for the wedding for example,
whatever the case may be, and it is helpful, but man,
the gift is something.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I think that the art of sending a thank you
note is gone, or just being thankful in general. If
only we had a day of the year where people
just sat back and had these thoughts about being thankful
and really celebrated thankfulness.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Isn't that ruth Buzzy Day.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Ruth Buzzy Day for some of us is every day.
That's true. By the way, that's a holiday that we
should put together. We should, on the anniversary of her death,
celebrate Ruth Buzzy Day, and everybody hits everyone with a purse.
It used to be the Black Friday was a moment
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of coming together, of planning and of excitement, and you
wake up early and you get to your favorite store
because there were doorbuster.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Deals Fingers maloy Doorbuster deals.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And then, of course came the advent to the cell phone,
and Black Friday became that day where you sat home
and watched videos of really overweight women or unbelievably stupid
men beating.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
The living crap out of each other over a toaster.
Shalla la lah I missed those days too.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
See Drink Smoke I'm Tony Katz. That is Fingers Maloy.
Don't forget our books. Let's go Bourbon, Let's go bbq,
Let's go barbecue. They're available at Amazon dot com. Perfect
gifts for Christmas, Hanukah, anything that you should celebrate.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So you know we mentioned earlier about where we discussed
earlier Facebook memories, right, and I had some Facebook memories
from Black Friday twenty twelve. You want to hear some
of them from?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I didn't have to stand in line at Walmart to
save on this Xbox game. I hit it behind an
Alan Colmbs book three weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You did an Alan Comes joke.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Alan Combs was half of Hannity and Combs, the original
show on Fox News Channel. Alan Combs was on the
political left. Sean Hannity was on the political right. Alan
Colmes passed away some years ago. I disagreed with him
vehemently politically. Everything I ever heard about that guy, most
unbelievably decent cat you would ever meet. I'd be curious
(28:35):
to hear his thoughts about today's political insanitay and Alan
comes reference as a.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Poll man just shoved an old man aside at Walmart,
I saved fifteen percent on a Wei game and he
got five stitches. I never felt so alive.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
You something tells me we have our next book. Everybody,
But there are Black Friday deals now that go on
all week right They started at the beginning of the week.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
They're still going on right now. I believe the.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Black Friday deals now extend into May, right right.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Before the beginning of summer. So here's a list. If
you haven't gotten.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Your Black Friday deals yet, let me bring this to you.
This is a list where the people over there at CNN,
who are known for their Black Friday expertise, they hand
picked fingers maloy. Oh they did not use AI.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We're gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They handpicked a list of the ninety best Black Friday
deals to beat the holiday rush. I want you right
now to go to your local AI, and I want
you to put in give me a list of the
best of the ninety best Black Friday deals. Okay, I
want to see if AI's list is better than the
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list from the experts at CNN.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I don't know who it was.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I think you may have told me this, But there
are people who are posting on so social media. I
don't need any more deals on big screen TVs. But
if I could have a cheaper price for milk, that.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Would be great. No, I did not.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
If the groceries could just be less, that would be terrific,
Thank you so very much. And they're they're they're not wrong.
Some of them are the basics. The Apple air Pods
on sale for two hundred and twenty dollars, some chargers.
Here's Hokahs, Hokah sneakers. Do you wear the hookahs? Hoka
(30:32):
they're big? The on clouds are big. Do you wear
any of those? Do you wear the Are you wearing
designer sneakers right now?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
And no, I'm not, But I've never heard of Hokah before.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
No, No, they make designer stuff. You can get those
for one hundred dollars at foot locker. One hundred dollars
right now at foot locker.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's the thing, though, that is.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That is a thing.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I have seen some completely insane deals on laptops and
you who came across a ninety eight inch television.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I couldn't believe it. So I walked into one of
these big box warehouse stores.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
It was a warehouse store, so it wasn't the best.
Now you're buying, wasn't the best?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
No, And there was this beautiful ninety eight inch TV.
Did your cost come with a co No, it did not.
Oh but it was a bj BJ's warehouse. Ah yeah.
Uh so I went in there and there was a
TV ninety eight inches, a TLC TV TCL that No, TLC.
(31:36):
That was a chasing waterfall there. It is TCL television.
Now the price tag said normally tony two thousand dollars TV.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Before you go any further, okay.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Ninety eight inches of television.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I'm going to now say, for the record, there is
such a thing as too big.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Okay, now you're just talking crazy talk. You're talking crazy talk.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I will admit to you that I have in the
studio here a seventy five inch T Yes. And when
I first got this and put this up, like you
know what, it's too big, it's too much. I'm gonna
take it back and get a sixty five inch TV.
And I believe it was Fingers malloy who said, nah,
it's fine.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I said, give it a week, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Oh my gosh, it is the most And by the way,
this wall could handle a ninety eight inch. Yes, this
could absolutely handle a ninety eight inch TV.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Now I don't buy TCL. Yeah, I have my rules.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That is made in China, and I do everything I
can not to buy it from China, not to bring
politics into it.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
But boy's got to have some standards, and that's mine.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So this TV ninety eight inches of television, yes, normally
nineteen hundred and ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yes, and it was on And now again, I don't
know if this is like Cohle's, where you know everything's
on sale and oh it really was never two thousand dollars, uh,
nine hundred and ninety eight dollars under a thousand dollars.
And I'm looking at this and I'm having flashbacks to
when I purchased my first big screen TV. It was
a fifty five inch Mitsubishi sixteen x nine screen format
(33:12):
and it was twenty six hundred dollars and that was
on sale. And now you can get a ninety eight
inch TV for.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I believe my first big screen was a Panasonic and
I think it was forty eight inches, but it might
have only been forty two inches, and I think I
paid somewhere between twelve and fourteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
It's crazy. Yeah, even more of a flashback. I was
a college student early nineties, and I had a Sears
charge card right and it was getting right at the
beginning of football season, and I ran out and I
got the biggest TV I could afford. It was I
can't remember my credit limit was on the Seers charge card,
(33:51):
but I got a thirty two inch TV tube TV
and it seemed huge. It weighed seven hundred and five
pounds tony if I remember correctly. This was in nineteen
ninety two or something like that. I paid eight hundred
dollars for it for thirty two inch TV. My how
times have changed.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
You paid eight hundred dollars for it? Yeah. Wow, sounds
like a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
No, But the prices, of course on tech always come
down amazing, and there have been deals on laptop. So
this is a Microsoft thirteen inch surface laptop. It's five
hundred and fifty bucks at best Buy, and I saw
I have seen stuff with like the Chromebooks and things
like that.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It's one hundred ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
It is unbelievable how easy it is to access the
world for what is seemingly a very inexpensive number in
today's world.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You get down to that price, I have to ask
you. You know you're a Mac guy, So I am, and
I'm We're not going to get in this whole Max
snobbery thing. But I've been a Mac guy for so long,
I don't know how difficult of a transition it would
be to go to a PC.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So in the work that I do, the radio work
that I do, you guys know we do other radio work.
Fingers as a show in Michigan. I have a morning
show in Indianapolis. I have a nationally syndicated radio show. And
I have a work laptop. It's right there. It is
right there. It's an HP laptop right there. I use
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that to make sure that the live stream looks good,
and that's it, Okay. I don't use it for anything
at all.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
So you're using Windows.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I go to Microsoft Edge, which is their browser, okay,
and I go to YouTube just to make sure everything
is looking appropriate.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And that's all I do. That's the only thing I
use that for. I don't even know why I have
it there.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I don't even know what Windows are they up to now?
Do they still call it Windows.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I assume, yeah, I assume they still call it Windows
Windows fourteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I haven't used a PC. I haven't had a PC
since I had a IBM think pad.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Right. It weighed seventy four pounds.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yes, exactly, the max snobbery is. It's not snobbery. I'm
in that ecosystem. I'm not moving from that ecosystem. I
just don't want to learn. I don't want to have
to engage the people who have Android or Google phones.
They seem very happy, they seem like very like it
somehow works better, and I just I don't know what
(36:25):
better is? How much time do I have to spend
with it to be like, oh, yeah, that uploaded half
a millisecond faster.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Now my life's complete.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Its been ten years since I've had an Android phone.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
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