November 23, 2025 • 36 mins
Step into the world of premium spirits as Tony Katz and Fingers Malloy explore the mysterious Burning Chair Bourbon in this lively, entertaining episode. This stylish bourbon, housed in a striking matte black bottle, delivers an unexpected punch that literally leaves our hosts breathless. With its wine barrel finish and sweet, marshmallow-vanilla notes, this 88-proof bourbon creates quite the sensation – especially for Tony, who experiences a surprising "fire bomb" in his chest with each sip!
Between spirited tastings, our hosts dive into passionate debates about everything from Starbucks holiday cups and 50-year mortgages to the evolving landscape of television streaming services. The chemistry between these two bourbon enthusiasts creates a perfect blend of whiskey wisdom and everyday observations that will leave you chuckling.
Key takeaways:
Introduction to Burning Chair Bourbon and its distinctive bottle
First impressions and tasting notes: wine influence and sweetness
Tony's surprising physical reaction to the bourbon
Discussion about Starbucks holiday cups and consumer behavior
Debate about housing affordability and 50-year mortgages
Cigar pairing with La Aurora 1903 Cameroon
News about housing foreclosures and economic concerns
The economics of streaming services versus cable TV
Fingers reveals his shocking food choices for the day
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I will admit to you that I think it's the
coolest bottle I've seen in a while. Now. The label
on about ken hen me that absolutely. The labels, you know,
just slapped on there. It's not like it's like embossed.
What this like, Matt black glass. Yeah, that's very cool.
It's eat drink smell. I'm Tony Katz. And that right
(00:25):
there is America's favorite amateur drinker fingers, my boy. And
this is the Burning Chair Bourbon whiskey. There you go, Oh,
thank you. I'll take it. Coming in at forty four
percent alcohol by volume or eighty eight proof. Aged four
years actually able to get a mash bill on this
seventy five percent corn, which would denote what fingers, mooy?
(00:48):
What did you say? It's I was putting the bottle back.
I'm sorry. Seventy five percent corn sweet? It's to be sweet.
It should be sweet. See that? See that. You hang
around eat drink smoke Nation long enough you learn a
thing or two twenty one percent rye four percent malted
barley fingers. You found this a couple of weeks ago.
I had never heard of it. I had never ever
(01:10):
heard of it. We were looking things up about it,
and someone did a review over at leaf enthusiast dot
com and paired it with a Sincombro musa from Dunbart
and Tobacco, and trust I said, I don't know about
the bourbon, but I like the parent because anything with
a Sincomber muslo is a good, good, good UH maneuvering
there good market. So this uh is sourced out of Kentucky,
(01:32):
Indiana and Tennessee. So this is a blend of bourbons
going on here, and it is finished in cabernet barrels.
And it was one of the first thing's fingers said.
When he pours this out into our arkenziglasses, He's like, oh, yeah,
oh that's wine.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I had no idea how it was aged, where it
was aged, or that was seventy five percent corn in
the mash bill Right, I'm good at home, but I
right away you could get a whiff of oh on
the nose that smells like wine.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And it's a pretty color, right, So not as ambers.
I would like more in the in the copper orange
right there, more what you would think of bourbon. It
looks like, by the way, who let you pour look
at the sides of this poor what why is your
so tiny and mine is overflowing.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's because you looked at me before we started and
said I need a drink.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I didn't, Oh, but I should have. Oh that's sweet,
Yes it is. Oh so that's a two for a
wait a second, wait a second. That is sweet and
that is that is that is a bit of oak.
(02:51):
There's a bit of oak in there's a bit of
wood in there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But there is You get a red wine kind of
hit on on the notes, do you not.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, that sweetness could be seen as
my people would say, a touch of the man of
Chevitz that is Oh yeah, have you ever had Man
of Schevitz? You're just making stuff up at this point.
It's a brand and they make wine for Jewish holidays
and it is so sweet that one sip boom diabetes.
(03:27):
Oh you got the Wilford Brimley diabetes right there?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Can I get it at a gas station next to
little Debbie? No? Oh no you can't. That's too bad.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But it's true. Yeah, I think I think that definitely.
You can say there's a bit of wine there, but
I if I'm digging in, if I'm getting a little
bit fuller there as sweet. You know you're not You're
not off. You're not off with that, But enough with
us just smelling things. Fingers Bloy. You ready for this?
(03:58):
I'm ready. He's been ready for this all day. Fingers
Oi is doing what is known as the Kentucky chew,
moving the juice around the palate, getting a real feel
for the flavors. Sometimes you want to take two SIPs.
The first sip to set the taste, but it's the
second sip to really get an understanding of what the
bourbon is. This is a four year bourbon whiskey. Fingers
mall Oi, what say you?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's nice and listen. First of all, I am not
I freely I'm not a wine person. Okay, that's much
more of the world that you are in. And you're
not even much of a wine but you have much
more experience in wine than hey if you mean.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And I have a wine key and can open a bottle. Yes, wow, expert.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Having said that, I do still feel it that there's
like that red wine note as well as nice bit
of oak, nice bit of spice, maybe a little bit
of caramel on the finish. It's very very nice. I'm
I'm gonna be curious what you think about it, because
it is. It's sweet, so I'm not sure it's going
to be something you're going to be crazy about.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm going in. This is the Burning Chair Bourbon, forty
four percent alcohol by volume, eighty eight proof. Here I go.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He's going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what
we like to call the Memphis munch, the Chattanooga chomp,
the burning chair chump. Ah hah, Well, well, well is
that the spice.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It was a quick spice punch on the tongue, like
a like a knife graze in your temple, and then wow,
it has all settled lower hip. You need a minute?
Are you sure? Are you sure? My god? In one shot?
(05:45):
He sure it's the bourbon? Are you okay? Are you
all right? Oh? Do we need to call the authorities?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
He?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I think I think I might need some sour cream. Wow,
that all hit all the heat hit low chest at
one shot. Oh it's still there, no kidding? Oh? Oh
is that what fireballs like? Wow? That really that's weird.
That is weird. It's a fantastic finish. So what's really good?
(06:23):
That's a really good finish. It's it. It is fruity. Uh,
the oak is there. Uh, there's a bit of vanilla
going on, almost like a vanilla cream. That's happening. That's
a that. I can't tell you where the palette was
(06:44):
because it moved so quickly to the fire bomb in
the bottom of my chest. I don't know what happened.
But the but the finish is is is a lover
right there? Is it too sweet for you? No? Wow,
I'm curious what a cube is. I'm going back in.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh good for you. You have plenty in your glass, so
I'm glad you're going in for for seconds.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
He's doing the sagon a swish. Ladies and gentlemen. Wow,
did you just do a pop Eye? Get? Get? Get?
I did it again? I did it again. Wow? What
is happening?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
He's doing O god, he's doing a full Fred Sandford.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Ladies and gentlemen. Wow. Finish is really nice? It is.
I don't know what's happening, but I I I I
in the in the mouth right fine. The minute it
goes oh my god, wow is that only eighty eight proof?
(07:55):
That's amazing to me. So it skips the papp it
skips the palette for you to.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Gone goes you got fire in your belly, is what
you're saying. Oh, oh my gosh, that's amazing, that's nuts.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Oh, people are gonna love this. The finish is really
really delightful, like like you're gonna like that flavored life.
You know what, I might take away from vanilla and
go into a bit of a marshmallow almost, that's yeah,
I might hit toasted marshmallow. But I have no idea
(08:31):
what the palette is. What I do know is bowl
of yogurt to put out this heat, like I just
had curry Indo loop Fingers moloin. As you are well aware,
it is the holiday season. It is the pumpkin spice season,
(08:54):
Fingers Mylin, Where everything big and small, everything expensive or free,
is pumpkin spice. Your your mailman smells of pumpkin spice,
Your children smell of pumpkin spice. Go on, smell your
money pumpkin spice, and your pumpkin spice smells it smells
(09:20):
even more pumpkins spicier. It's really the season of joy, sea, drink, smoke.
I'm Tony Katz, and that right there is America's favorite
pumpkin spicer. Fingers molloy Starbucks. They've got their new holiday
cup designs. Aren't you excited? Oh, I'm gonna go and
collect all of them today. I just want to say,
(09:41):
for the record, nobody cares about the Starbucks cup design
and if they do, they have way too much free time.
And you're joking right. The people have like raged about
these things. They've gotten angry about these things. There's been
threats about the these things. It's a freaking cup. It's
(10:03):
a cup with some kind of mermaid fish thing on it,
and it's got a ribbon. Can we move on? Please?
Can we stop the insanity of being concerned about this
ridiculous cup and be more bothered that so many people
buy overprized coffee. The logo is a what it's a
(10:23):
fish lady. It's like a mermaid lady. I thought it
was Jerry West that that's the NBA. Oh, I've got
the wrong story. Open Yes, Starbucks. So I'm so proud
of you, by the way, that was such an excellent
poll to go with Jerry West.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Uh so confession because I know how you feel about Starbucks. Yeah,
you're not a huge fan of Starbuck.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I am not so much impressed you will go to
a Starbucks if you have to, of course I am not,
you know, crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I have for my home machine there not going out,
but when I make home coffee at the house, there
in a machine made by mister Coffee. I've been doing
a lot of Starbucks coffee lately, ground coffee. Yeah, it's
(11:24):
been been on sale.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Well listen, I'm not going to tell you not to
buy something on sale. I am. You're gonna judge me, though,
I'm not judging you fingers. Of all the things I
would judge you for, it's another one to add to
the list. You think that even makes the top forty three.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You Over the years, you have made your opinion known
about you, Yes, yes, and about Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Starbucks can can go bite? What so? Something I said
Starbucks is what you do in a pinch. Starbucks is
not what you do as a standard. It's not It's
just not well, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Apparently, No, many Americans disagree with you, and they run
to get not only do they get the expensive coffee.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
How much are these cups? Seriously?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Are these are the cups that come with the coffee? Oh,
you don't spend extra to get No, you're not collector?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
No, no, no, these are our regular cups that you
then throw away and destroy the environments with you. Don't
throw these away, do you? Of course you throw these away? No?
I mean the people who are really, really passionate about
not collecting cups like their beer bottles along the wall
of your dorm room. They aren't. I just assumed.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Let me let me take you back, ladies and gentlemen,
to a simpler time. It was back in the nineteen
seventies when McDonald's the Golden Arches used to release collector
cups and people would run to their local McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'll tell you, I almost got a set of McDonald's
rocks glasses. I'm sorry. They have rocks glasses. They are
Hawaii themed, Hawaiian McDonald's rocks glasses. I missed out on
the bid on Facebook marketplace. I tried to get them.
I'm going to find these things. They're amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I have almost, on several occasions purchased McDonald's ash trays.
But the only thing that stopped me is they know
they were at the restaurants in the in the seventies, right,
And they're way too small for cigars, right, But they're awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right, And McDonald's. So McDonald's it was you can buy
the glass with Ronald McDonald's and Grimace and the Hamburg
where I remember.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Those Yeah, space ghost right, But so you're saying it's
not like that, It is just the regular old waxy paper.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yes, yes, Why are people going crazy about these? I oh,
I think that hurt more than the bourbon. They go
crazy for them because people have given up any thought
of having a normal life. The things they get excited about,
(14:18):
the things that are important to them, it's just so ridiculous.
They shouldn't even be out of Starbucks, and they know
they can't afford it. And if they look at their
bank counts at the end of the month, they're like,
where do all the money go? Well, it's a six
dollars whatever, frapple whatever, you know, twice a day, five
days a week. That's twelve times five. That's sixty times
(14:40):
worth two hundred and forty dollars the end. That's one
tenth of a car payment. Are we going to talk
about the insanity of a fifty year mortgage? Can we
do this? Can we? If you want to stay on target,
I'll stay on Target. I will totally start wars this
(15:00):
thing with you. But if we can go right ahead,
Pulty Homes and President Trump floated the idea of a
fifty year mortgage as a way to make homes more affordable.
And I want to say, right now, for the record,
(15:21):
anyone who thinks a fifty year mortgage is a good
idea is out of their minds. I disagree with you.
Now wait, I hold it. I think Poulty Holmes think
it's an excellent idea. I don't want to stop somebody
from getting a fifty year mortgage. I don't care if
you get a two hundred year mortgage. What I'm saying
(15:43):
is is that this is not the way to engage
a level of quote unquote affordability. That's the problem. It
doesn't solve a problem. And part of the problem is
if the only place you want to live is the
place that has eight hundred thousand dollar homes and you
only make one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars a
(16:03):
year between the two of you, maybe you can't afford that.
If you have two kids, maybe that's the problem. Maybe
if you are are the sole working parent and you're
making eighty five thousand dollars a year, buying an eight
hundred thousand dollars houses out of the question. You can't
afford to live there. And this has been a big,
big argument on social media. See that's the problem. We're
(16:27):
not encouraging people because we're saying you're gonna have to
move somewhere else. This is migratory one oh one. What
the hell is wrong with everybody? You can't live in
New York City And that's what created we hawk in.
This is a maddening thing that's going on here. Fifty
year mortgage. Maybe you shouldn't buy that house to begin with?
(16:48):
Thank you? Are you looking up? We hawking? No?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Actually so the Starbucks coffee cup right, it's red and green?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Is it something? I? No? I listen, I completely agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
The other thing that we need to have a discussion
about that we don't have time for is the concept
of a starter home and that a starter home doesn't
necessarily have to be four thousand square feet.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah. Yeah, your house doesn't have to have granted, lemon
it is fine. Shut up, eat, drink, smoke in your cigar,
bourbon footy extravaganz. I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers of looy.
We are smoking from La Aurora. The was it the
one o three Cameroon right there? I think it's called
(17:36):
the one o three nineteen oh six. It's the nineteen
oh three, nineteen oh three, the nineteen oh three. Sorry,
this is the Cameroon wrapper five and three quarters by
fifty four seven dollars a stick. Yes, please, It's a
very nice cigar.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, and I I would argue that it could very
easily be an everyday cigar for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah. The spice is definitely there. There, there is a
little a bit of a cream undertow. There is a
little bit, as I said, of leather going on with
this as well. Oddly, though, it is a touch monotone
that isn't necessarily bad if you're expecting big changes. That's
(18:22):
We're now into the second third of the cigar that
I'm not getting. They say it's a medium. It plays
much fuller for me than a medium. But it's just easy,
it's just nice. You're like, this is good, this is good.
Seven bucks sold, done, complete and there's a lot of
opportunities for this cigar. But we are drinking the Burning
(18:47):
Chair Bourbon. This is a four year Bourbon eighty eight
proof forty four percent alcohol by volume. And I have
some I'd say, you know it's fresh. I have some
rocks right, I'm throwing mine right on the rocks. Now.
It's water, right, Water, it brings down proof, Water can
(19:07):
open it up right. Some flavors more pronounced, some more diluted.
Fingers is added a little bit of water to his
right there. It will change the complexion of your bourbon.
It's a whole different experience. I got a lot of
heat out of this. I got painful heat in the
lower chest out of this. I thought it was hospital time.
But the finish was spectacular. I almost want to say
marshmallowy like it. It was vanilla, and then it moved
(19:30):
it too marshmallow and it had that sweetness, had a
little bit oak. It was a nice finish. Fingers.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It makes me wonder, do you would you like to
see it in a milkshake?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I want to see everything in a milkshake. So there's that.
If I put this on some cubes, I'm going in.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
He's going back in, Ladies and gentlemen, let's hope that
he does not once again end up in the fetal position.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Doing the Memphis munch sagon. I swish. He looks better.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, he doesn't look like he's in pain.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's good. That's always a good sign. Yeah, that that
that heat in the lower chest is gone. You actually
have something on the on the palette that is sweet. Right,
it's a it's but it's not a wine sweet. Right.
This is finished in wine right? Yes? Uh, this is
this is brown sugar sweet. A little bit of oak undercurrent,
(20:24):
right there, a little bit of you know that that well,
the marshmallow vanilla's kind of dissipated a bit with the cube,
but there is now now there's the heat in the finish. Hey,
how you doing? Oh? How's your mother? Yeah? Still fat? Great?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Wow are you just said proof? Are you just having
a day? Is that what this is? Oh? My, oh
my god? Did you get today? Are you sweating? No? Sweating?
It's crazy. It's just right there. I took two SIPs
radiating to my ears. My ears are hot? Why? I
(21:05):
don't know? No, I'm fine. Wow, that's crazy. It's a
nice bit of flavor. Fingers is going in adding just
a little bit of water, uh to his glass? Right there?
What say you on this burning chair? Bourbon whiskey?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
See to me it it brought out a little bit
more spice. Okay, that kind of red that that red
wine is still there.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I got more of a caramel. You're getting more of
vanilla brown sugar. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
There's a lot of oak there. It to me is
not overly sweet. It's sweet. I'm enjoying it. I think
it's I think I like it better.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Neat So Fingers, you per just this just the other day,
Fingers molloy, is this in your liquor cabinet? What did
this cost? Fifty four nine? Oh? And for me, the
answer is yes, yeah, oh wow right there huh any higher,
(22:21):
it's a definite no. So if it were fifty five dollars, yeah. Yeah.
By the way, they stopped. They discontinued the penny. The
last penny rolled off the mint in Philadelphia this week.
You could still use pennies, but they're not making any
more pennies because a penny costs four cents to make.
Oh gosh, well, I think based on people being able
(22:44):
to say to me, Tony, I had the burning chair
bourbon and you're just a giant whimp, I think it's
a yes. I think it's I think it's a yes, yeah,
I could see people doing it. I could see people.
Why it's hitting me the way it is, I can't,
I can't well answer. But there's flavor there, There's there's
something there. It's it's not perfectly my my flavor profile,
(23:07):
as I often discuss, but I can see it. I
can see this happening in people's lives. I think it
brings a lot to the table. I think that it's unique.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know, you just don't see this everywhere, uh, for
for those reasons and the price point, because we have
to re examine what we're spending on everything. I think
for me, this is in the liquor cabinet.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
The burning a chair, bourbon right there. Check it out
for yourself. It is time, Fingers beloway for news of
the week. Let's stick with the housing theme, shall we
tell you? By the way, we had a very interesting
conversation about how, yes, I'm accurate in the people expect
too much, have too many demands as first time home buyers.
(23:53):
Fingers made the argument, and he's accurate that if we're
building houses of three thousand plus square feet, if we're
building houses because people, the builder wants to maximize profit,
which I don't oppose, and so therefore you're in the
five six, seven hundred thousands. Never mind what land costs are.
Where is the starter home? Where does one get a start?
(24:15):
That is a real argument. I don't want that dismissed
from what you said, fingers Sit. It makes sense and
it's worthy of discussion. I would go back to where
these houses being built and what willingness do people have
to start their lives in a place where maybe they
didn't know they would be, but that's the place they
can afford to start their lives. Do you think that
(24:37):
if they weren't building all of those same exact kinds
of houses in Levittown, you know, on Long Islands, right
that style of house, they would have then gone to
the houses in Jersey, or gone to the houses in Connecticut,
or or somewhere else where this was happening where the
housing was affordable to do. So. I do think that
comes into play that people need to think about where
(24:59):
they can to start their lives in that regard, not
where they think they must be or demand to be.
But your point is well taken. If you aren't creating
things that allow somebody who's just starting out their lives
to move into they have no place to move into.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, and you may see a re examination of people
deciding where they're going to live based on the fact
that many people can now work remotely and they may
be able to move to smaller towns away from the
big city or into the country, and there may be.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
A move out of the city.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But what I was going to bring up a news
of the week is the Daily Mail has the story Foreclosure.
Foreclosures surge twenty percent as Americans struggle to pay their
mortgage and their are fears of a two thousand and
eight style crash. Now, we've been hearing this for a while,
right that there's a watch out for the real estate crash.
It's it's going to happen. I think where people need
(25:54):
to be concerned about a real estate crash is in
the commercial real estate market.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So there's a real question that hasn't happened already when
you talk about people not in the offices. Although a
lot of companies have ordered people back into the offices,
but there are also companies that have shed employees. I
don't know, we're not yet in the place where that
real estate, the commercial real estate settles out, a shakes
out but I agree with you, it has not come,
(26:20):
although it has been rumored for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to see how as
inflation continues to grip the economy, how it affects real estate.
You know, as property taxes increase, as homeowner's insurance increases.
Are we going to see more of these foreclosures moving forward.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's something to keep an eye on. Well, certainly if
we see large scale layoffs like Amazon and ups in
favor of AI and I don't know if that's even
gonna work out for them. Yeah, we could have further
bad things on the horizon. Thanks for reading the good news,
Shalla La lat. Only half the homes in America have
(27:09):
cable fingers one, really, that's a true story. I get
all my TV via closed circuit T Drink Smoke. I'm
Tony Katz. That is fingers bellow. I find everything at Eat, Drink, Smoke,
show dot com. Only half the homes in America have
cable TV. But the when you take a look at
(27:30):
streaming services and you add that price together, you might
as well have cable TV if you took the seven
most popular right, your your Netflix, your Hulu, your Disney
plus your Apple TV, you got your you got your
peacock there, you got your Paramount plus and a missing
a missing one. Let's say I'm missing one. I had
(27:52):
done the math on the basic plans. The cheapest plan
seventy two dollars. That's what you're paying them up and
nobody has the cheapest plans. So and people have every
streaming service under the sun, and they're paying one hundred bucks.
And there's a story in the Wall Street Journal about
how streaming services have gone up, and Disney is up
(28:14):
one hundred and seventy three percent in cost from where
it started. But in the end, everything is really in
that seventeen to twenty five dollars category. There are like
Paramount plus you can get for twelve dollars, right, that's
twelve dollars, not twelve ninety nine a month. But those
will eventually go up. People are paying the max for
as few commercials as possible and some extra added features.
(28:37):
It's just as expensive as cable. Why is it better?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Well, I will say that isn't this what we asked
for for? You know, twenty thirty years ago we were
screaming at cable companies to give us an ala Kart
service where instead of having to get a big package
of a cable service that included channels that we weren't
going to watch, you could pick and choose your channels. Well,
(29:01):
now you have an option of choosing the streaming service here,
the streaming service over there. There you can get by
with very little invested in your entertainment if you're willing
to not if you're willing to miss out on every
hot new TV show on the planet, right, I mean,
(29:22):
you can get on Pluto TV. It's free and there
are hundreds of stations on there now. Some of the
channels and the content maybe a little long in the tooth.
Yes that you know one of the stations that I
will tune into from time to time. And you and
I have talked about how we both were big fans
(29:42):
of Johnny Carson. There's a Johnny Carson channel. Yes, there
are old you know, the Andy Griffith Show channel. But
there are free options out there as well. So you know,
while I do agree that cable has gotten out of control,
there are options out there that you can you can
(30:04):
stretch your entertainment dollar and not break the budget.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
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do it while eating a steak from Defiancebeef dot Com.
I know, so cheesy, but the steaks are so good.
We made the meatballs with the ground beef this week,
absolutely spectacular. I did the chuck roasts after a marinade. Fantastic.
Defiance Beef is right here in Indiana and it stakes
(30:29):
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use promo code, eat, drink smoke, and you're gonna get
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and then everything is aged twenty one days. Incredible tenderness,
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what do you want? And depending on whether you ordered
a quarter cow I have cow or an entire cow, Well,
(30:50):
that's how many strips you're gonna get, and how many
ribbis you're gonna get in and how many tenderloins, on
what size of brisket and everything else. You can decide
the thickness all of it. Well, at the Souper Bones Boom,
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dollars off your order. Truly incredible and I think the
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make that happen. I know I don't want to date
the podcast or anything like that, but you'll go to
(31:32):
Defiance Beef. You'll see when it's available and then boom,
so easy to do Defiance Beef dot Com. I'm saying
about the cable half the people have cable. How many
of that group have it because wherever they rent from,
the cable comes with it. The basic cable's just part
of the deal. That's very possible.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I also think that another segment of the cable purchasing
customer is a season citizens like a finger smoly senior
that wants his cable TV. He wants a cable box,
he wants to be able to switch the chance and
he doesn't want to go to fifteen different apps to
get his entertainment.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think that's very true as well. It's what you're
used to, it's what you're comfortable with, and you're not
buying into some television or really it's not television, it's
content trends. Right, The big giant screen that sits in
your living room is nothing more than a content delivery device.
It's the screen, that's all it is, and everything else
is the app to which you are getting that content.
(32:33):
I there was a moment there where everything that all
this content that was being created for TV was incredible.
It was like a golden age of television. I don't
know if we're there anymore. Do you think that we're
still in a place. I mean, there's a stuff Taylor
Sheridan is doing with like Landman and some of those shows.
(32:53):
Are we in a place of spectacular TV? And I
can buy the way I can point to good television shows.
The a fan fair around things like Severns for example, right,
gets people very very excited.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I have just sat down and watched a new television show.
I'm I'm I'm binge watching. It's called The Crown. It's
brand new. It just came out. People are really really
into it.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
It didn't just come out. Oh and how How did
missus molloy sucker you into this? She didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I wanted to watch it only because I've seen several
clips online through the instagrams there uh and it was
all of John Lithgow playing Winston Churchill, and I was like, oh,
there's a lot of Churchill in this. I'm I'm a
middle aged man. I'm into Churchill, so I want to
(33:49):
watch the show. You know what I'm finding out little
of it has to do with Winston Churchill.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Shocking, shocking. I say, you want something that's shocking, we see,
we would do it. Fingers Maloy, what did you eat today?
As you well know, Fingers Maloy has the worst diet
in the history of mankind. It doesn't come from a
convenience dore or a gas station. Fingers Willy says, I
don't touch that stuff. And today he said, you don't
(34:16):
want to know what I had today? So okay, now
I want to know Fingers is going to tell us
what he ate today, and then we will ask the
age old question, Fingers Maloy, how are you still alive? Fingers?
What did you eat today? Well?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I started out the morning at a gas station. What
and this gas station has breakfast sandwiches pre made sausage,
egg and cheese biscuit.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Oh that sounds the life.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
And right next to the sandwiches there's a little tiny
compartment with windows that you open up and they have
donuts in them.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I believe they're called doors. Oh wow, what did I say? Windows? Windows?
But the windows with handles doors? And in that they
had the donuts.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And so I got one of those chocolate covered Long
John's with a creamy filling in.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
The middle and the breakfast sandwich. Yes, and I chased
it with a forty four ounce diet coke. That was breakfast.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
For lunch, I had a Missus Fresh Lea's honey bun
not frosted, and a.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
And a Pepsi zero.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And then on my way to eat drink Smoke Studios,
I had a big Mac with a medium fry, a
diet coke and a holiday pie.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Holiday pie? Is that real? Yes? You've never had a
holiday pie from McDonald's. You know what. I don't have
the time to get into that now. We asked the
question that has confused scientists for eons. Fingers, myloy, how
are you still alive?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I did two burpies this afternoon. I feel fantastic.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
That is I I had. What is happening? We need
to get your holiday pie. Clearly, we need to get
me a holiday pie. Smoking from La Aurora in nineteen
oh three, Cameroon five and three quarter by fifty four
seven dollars a stick. Yeah, all day. It's a nice cigar.
(36:16):
It is worthwhile to have a few of those in
the humid or the burning chair. Bourbon right here coming
in at fifty four dollars at ninety nine cents a bottle.
Finger says yes, I'd say probably in the liquor cabinet
for a lot of people. Try it yourself. Just threw
off a lot of heat to me. Find everything we
(36:37):
do on the podcast revenution. You get your podcasts just
look for eat, drink, smoke and on all the social
media's more next week, seat drink smoke,
I will admit to you that I think it's the
coolest bottle I've seen in a while. Now. The label
on about ken hen me that absolutely. The labels, you know,
just slapped on there. It's not like it's like embossed.
What this like, Matt black glass. Yeah, that's very cool.
It's eat drink smell. I'm Tony Katz. And that right
(00:25):
there is America's favorite amateur drinker fingers, my boy. And
this is the Burning Chair Bourbon whiskey. There you go, Oh,
thank you. I'll take it. Coming in at forty four
percent alcohol by volume or eighty eight proof. Aged four
years actually able to get a mash bill on this
seventy five percent corn, which would denote what fingers, mooy?
(00:48):
What did you say? It's I was putting the bottle back.
I'm sorry. Seventy five percent corn sweet? It's to be sweet.
It should be sweet. See that? See that. You hang
around eat drink smoke Nation long enough you learn a
thing or two twenty one percent rye four percent malted
barley fingers. You found this a couple of weeks ago.
I had never heard of it. I had never ever
(01:10):
heard of it. We were looking things up about it,
and someone did a review over at leaf enthusiast dot
com and paired it with a Sincombro musa from Dunbart
and Tobacco, and trust I said, I don't know about
the bourbon, but I like the parent because anything with
a Sincomber muslo is a good, good, good UH maneuvering
there good market. So this uh is sourced out of Kentucky,
(01:32):
Indiana and Tennessee. So this is a blend of bourbons
going on here, and it is finished in cabernet barrels.
And it was one of the first thing's fingers said.
When he pours this out into our arkenziglasses, He's like, oh, yeah,
oh that's wine.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I had no idea how it was aged, where it
was aged, or that was seventy five percent corn in
the mash bill Right, I'm good at home, but I
right away you could get a whiff of oh on
the nose that smells like wine.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And it's a pretty color, right, So not as ambers.
I would like more in the in the copper orange
right there, more what you would think of bourbon. It
looks like, by the way, who let you pour look
at the sides of this poor what why is your
so tiny and mine is overflowing.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's because you looked at me before we started and
said I need a drink.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I didn't, Oh, but I should have. Oh that's sweet,
Yes it is. Oh so that's a two for a
wait a second, wait a second. That is sweet and
that is that is that is a bit of oak.
(02:51):
There's a bit of oak in there's a bit of
wood in there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But there is You get a red wine kind of
hit on on the notes, do you not.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, that sweetness could be seen as
my people would say, a touch of the man of
Chevitz that is Oh yeah, have you ever had Man
of Schevitz? You're just making stuff up at this point.
It's a brand and they make wine for Jewish holidays
and it is so sweet that one sip boom diabetes.
(03:27):
Oh you got the Wilford Brimley diabetes right there?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Can I get it at a gas station next to
little Debbie? No? Oh no you can't. That's too bad.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But it's true. Yeah, I think I think that definitely.
You can say there's a bit of wine there, but
I if I'm digging in, if I'm getting a little
bit fuller there as sweet. You know you're not You're
not off. You're not off with that, But enough with
us just smelling things. Fingers Bloy. You ready for this?
(03:58):
I'm ready. He's been ready for this all day. Fingers
Oi is doing what is known as the Kentucky chew,
moving the juice around the palate, getting a real feel
for the flavors. Sometimes you want to take two SIPs.
The first sip to set the taste, but it's the
second sip to really get an understanding of what the
bourbon is. This is a four year bourbon whiskey. Fingers
mall Oi, what say you?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's nice and listen. First of all, I am not
I freely I'm not a wine person. Okay, that's much
more of the world that you are in. And you're
not even much of a wine but you have much
more experience in wine than hey if you mean.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And I have a wine key and can open a bottle. Yes, wow, expert.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Having said that, I do still feel it that there's
like that red wine note as well as nice bit
of oak, nice bit of spice, maybe a little bit
of caramel on the finish. It's very very nice. I'm
I'm gonna be curious what you think about it, because
it is. It's sweet, so I'm not sure it's going
to be something you're going to be crazy about.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm going in. This is the Burning Chair Bourbon, forty
four percent alcohol by volume, eighty eight proof. Here I go.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He's going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what
we like to call the Memphis munch, the Chattanooga chomp,
the burning chair chump. Ah hah, Well, well, well is
that the spice.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It was a quick spice punch on the tongue, like
a like a knife graze in your temple, and then wow,
it has all settled lower hip. You need a minute?
Are you sure? Are you sure? My god? In one shot?
(05:45):
He sure it's the bourbon? Are you okay? Are you
all right? Oh? Do we need to call the authorities?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
He?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I think I think I might need some sour cream. Wow,
that all hit all the heat hit low chest at
one shot. Oh it's still there, no kidding? Oh? Oh
is that what fireballs like? Wow? That really that's weird.
That is weird. It's a fantastic finish. So what's really good?
(06:23):
That's a really good finish. It's it. It is fruity. Uh,
the oak is there. Uh, there's a bit of vanilla
going on, almost like a vanilla cream. That's happening. That's
a that. I can't tell you where the palette was
(06:44):
because it moved so quickly to the fire bomb in
the bottom of my chest. I don't know what happened.
But the but the finish is is is a lover
right there? Is it too sweet for you? No? Wow,
I'm curious what a cube is. I'm going back in.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh good for you. You have plenty in your glass, so
I'm glad you're going in for for seconds.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
He's doing the sagon a swish. Ladies and gentlemen. Wow,
did you just do a pop Eye? Get? Get? Get?
I did it again? I did it again. Wow? What
is happening?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
He's doing O god, he's doing a full Fred Sandford.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Ladies and gentlemen. Wow. Finish is really nice? It is.
I don't know what's happening, but I I I I
in the in the mouth right fine. The minute it
goes oh my god, wow is that only eighty eight proof?
(07:55):
That's amazing to me. So it skips the papp it
skips the palette for you to.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Gone goes you got fire in your belly, is what
you're saying. Oh, oh my gosh, that's amazing, that's nuts.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Oh, people are gonna love this. The finish is really
really delightful, like like you're gonna like that flavored life.
You know what, I might take away from vanilla and
go into a bit of a marshmallow almost, that's yeah,
I might hit toasted marshmallow. But I have no idea
(08:31):
what the palette is. What I do know is bowl
of yogurt to put out this heat, like I just
had curry Indo loop Fingers moloin. As you are well aware,
it is the holiday season. It is the pumpkin spice season,
(08:54):
Fingers Mylin, Where everything big and small, everything expensive or free,
is pumpkin spice. Your your mailman smells of pumpkin spice,
Your children smell of pumpkin spice. Go on, smell your
money pumpkin spice, and your pumpkin spice smells it smells
(09:20):
even more pumpkins spicier. It's really the season of joy, sea, drink, smoke.
I'm Tony Katz, and that right there is America's favorite
pumpkin spicer. Fingers molloy Starbucks. They've got their new holiday
cup designs. Aren't you excited? Oh, I'm gonna go and
collect all of them today. I just want to say,
(09:41):
for the record, nobody cares about the Starbucks cup design
and if they do, they have way too much free time.
And you're joking right. The people have like raged about
these things. They've gotten angry about these things. There's been
threats about the these things. It's a freaking cup. It's
(10:03):
a cup with some kind of mermaid fish thing on it,
and it's got a ribbon. Can we move on? Please?
Can we stop the insanity of being concerned about this
ridiculous cup and be more bothered that so many people
buy overprized coffee. The logo is a what it's a
(10:23):
fish lady. It's like a mermaid lady. I thought it
was Jerry West that that's the NBA. Oh, I've got
the wrong story. Open Yes, Starbucks. So I'm so proud
of you, by the way, that was such an excellent
poll to go with Jerry West.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Uh so confession because I know how you feel about Starbucks. Yeah,
you're not a huge fan of Starbuck.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I am not so much impressed you will go to
a Starbucks if you have to, of course I am not,
you know, crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I have for my home machine there not going out,
but when I make home coffee at the house, there
in a machine made by mister Coffee. I've been doing
a lot of Starbucks coffee lately, ground coffee. Yeah, it's
(11:24):
been been on sale.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Well listen, I'm not going to tell you not to
buy something on sale. I am. You're gonna judge me, though,
I'm not judging you fingers. Of all the things I
would judge you for, it's another one to add to
the list. You think that even makes the top forty three.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You Over the years, you have made your opinion known
about you, Yes, yes, and about Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Starbucks can can go bite? What so? Something I said
Starbucks is what you do in a pinch. Starbucks is
not what you do as a standard. It's not It's
just not well, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Apparently, No, many Americans disagree with you, and they run
to get not only do they get the expensive coffee.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
How much are these cups? Seriously?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Are these are the cups that come with the coffee? Oh,
you don't spend extra to get No, you're not collector?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
No, no, no, these are our regular cups that you
then throw away and destroy the environments with you. Don't
throw these away, do you? Of course you throw these away? No?
I mean the people who are really, really passionate about
not collecting cups like their beer bottles along the wall
of your dorm room. They aren't. I just assumed.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Let me let me take you back, ladies and gentlemen,
to a simpler time. It was back in the nineteen
seventies when McDonald's the Golden Arches used to release collector
cups and people would run to their local McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'll tell you, I almost got a set of McDonald's
rocks glasses. I'm sorry. They have rocks glasses. They are
Hawaii themed, Hawaiian McDonald's rocks glasses. I missed out on
the bid on Facebook marketplace. I tried to get them.
I'm going to find these things. They're amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I have almost, on several occasions purchased McDonald's ash trays.
But the only thing that stopped me is they know
they were at the restaurants in the in the seventies, right,
And they're way too small for cigars, right, But they're awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right, And McDonald's. So McDonald's it was you can buy
the glass with Ronald McDonald's and Grimace and the Hamburg
where I remember.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Those Yeah, space ghost right, But so you're saying it's
not like that, It is just the regular old waxy paper.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yes, yes, Why are people going crazy about these? I oh,
I think that hurt more than the bourbon. They go
crazy for them because people have given up any thought
of having a normal life. The things they get excited about,
(14:18):
the things that are important to them, it's just so ridiculous.
They shouldn't even be out of Starbucks, and they know
they can't afford it. And if they look at their
bank counts at the end of the month, they're like,
where do all the money go? Well, it's a six
dollars whatever, frapple whatever, you know, twice a day, five
days a week. That's twelve times five. That's sixty times
(14:40):
worth two hundred and forty dollars the end. That's one
tenth of a car payment. Are we going to talk
about the insanity of a fifty year mortgage? Can we
do this? Can we? If you want to stay on target,
I'll stay on Target. I will totally start wars this
(15:00):
thing with you. But if we can go right ahead,
Pulty Homes and President Trump floated the idea of a
fifty year mortgage as a way to make homes more affordable.
And I want to say, right now, for the record,
(15:21):
anyone who thinks a fifty year mortgage is a good
idea is out of their minds. I disagree with you.
Now wait, I hold it. I think Poulty Holmes think
it's an excellent idea. I don't want to stop somebody
from getting a fifty year mortgage. I don't care if
you get a two hundred year mortgage. What I'm saying
(15:43):
is is that this is not the way to engage
a level of quote unquote affordability. That's the problem. It
doesn't solve a problem. And part of the problem is
if the only place you want to live is the
place that has eight hundred thousand dollar homes and you
only make one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars a
(16:03):
year between the two of you, maybe you can't afford that.
If you have two kids, maybe that's the problem. Maybe
if you are are the sole working parent and you're
making eighty five thousand dollars a year, buying an eight
hundred thousand dollars houses out of the question. You can't
afford to live there. And this has been a big,
big argument on social media. See that's the problem. We're
(16:27):
not encouraging people because we're saying you're gonna have to
move somewhere else. This is migratory one oh one. What
the hell is wrong with everybody? You can't live in
New York City And that's what created we hawk in.
This is a maddening thing that's going on here. Fifty
year mortgage. Maybe you shouldn't buy that house to begin with?
(16:48):
Thank you? Are you looking up? We hawking? No?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Actually so the Starbucks coffee cup right, it's red and green?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Is it something? I? No? I listen, I completely agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
The other thing that we need to have a discussion
about that we don't have time for is the concept
of a starter home and that a starter home doesn't
necessarily have to be four thousand square feet.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah. Yeah, your house doesn't have to have granted, lemon
it is fine. Shut up, eat, drink, smoke in your cigar,
bourbon footy extravaganz. I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers of looy.
We are smoking from La Aurora. The was it the
one o three Cameroon right there? I think it's called
(17:36):
the one o three nineteen oh six. It's the nineteen
oh three, nineteen oh three, the nineteen oh three. Sorry,
this is the Cameroon wrapper five and three quarters by
fifty four seven dollars a stick. Yes, please, It's a
very nice cigar.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, and I I would argue that it could very
easily be an everyday cigar for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah. The spice is definitely there. There, there is a
little a bit of a cream undertow. There is a
little bit, as I said, of leather going on with
this as well. Oddly, though, it is a touch monotone
that isn't necessarily bad if you're expecting big changes. That's
(18:22):
We're now into the second third of the cigar that
I'm not getting. They say it's a medium. It plays
much fuller for me than a medium. But it's just easy,
it's just nice. You're like, this is good, this is good.
Seven bucks sold, done, complete and there's a lot of
opportunities for this cigar. But we are drinking the Burning
(18:47):
Chair Bourbon. This is a four year Bourbon eighty eight
proof forty four percent alcohol by volume. And I have
some I'd say, you know it's fresh. I have some
rocks right, I'm throwing mine right on the rocks. Now.
It's water, right, Water, it brings down proof, Water can
(19:07):
open it up right. Some flavors more pronounced, some more diluted.
Fingers is added a little bit of water to his
right there. It will change the complexion of your bourbon.
It's a whole different experience. I got a lot of
heat out of this. I got painful heat in the
lower chest out of this. I thought it was hospital time.
But the finish was spectacular. I almost want to say
marshmallowy like it. It was vanilla, and then it moved
(19:30):
it too marshmallow and it had that sweetness, had a
little bit oak. It was a nice finish. Fingers.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It makes me wonder, do you would you like to
see it in a milkshake?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I want to see everything in a milkshake. So there's that.
If I put this on some cubes, I'm going in.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
He's going back in, Ladies and gentlemen, let's hope that
he does not once again end up in the fetal position.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Doing the Memphis munch sagon. I swish. He looks better.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, he doesn't look like he's in pain.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's good. That's always a good sign. Yeah, that that
that heat in the lower chest is gone. You actually
have something on the on the palette that is sweet. Right,
it's a it's but it's not a wine sweet. Right.
This is finished in wine right? Yes? Uh, this is
this is brown sugar sweet. A little bit of oak undercurrent,
(20:24):
right there, a little bit of you know that that well,
the marshmallow vanilla's kind of dissipated a bit with the cube,
but there is now now there's the heat in the finish. Hey,
how you doing? Oh? How's your mother? Yeah? Still fat? Great?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Wow are you just said proof? Are you just having
a day? Is that what this is? Oh? My, oh
my god? Did you get today? Are you sweating? No? Sweating?
It's crazy. It's just right there. I took two SIPs
radiating to my ears. My ears are hot? Why? I
(21:05):
don't know? No, I'm fine. Wow, that's crazy. It's a
nice bit of flavor. Fingers is going in adding just
a little bit of water, uh to his glass? Right there?
What say you on this burning chair? Bourbon whiskey?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
See to me it it brought out a little bit
more spice. Okay, that kind of red that that red
wine is still there.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I got more of a caramel. You're getting more of
vanilla brown sugar. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
There's a lot of oak there. It to me is
not overly sweet. It's sweet. I'm enjoying it. I think
it's I think I like it better.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Neat So Fingers, you per just this just the other day,
Fingers molloy, is this in your liquor cabinet? What did
this cost? Fifty four nine? Oh? And for me, the
answer is yes, yeah, oh wow right there huh any higher,
(22:21):
it's a definite no. So if it were fifty five dollars, yeah. Yeah.
By the way, they stopped. They discontinued the penny. The
last penny rolled off the mint in Philadelphia this week.
You could still use pennies, but they're not making any
more pennies because a penny costs four cents to make.
Oh gosh, well, I think based on people being able
(22:44):
to say to me, Tony, I had the burning chair
bourbon and you're just a giant whimp, I think it's
a yes. I think it's I think it's a yes, yeah,
I could see people doing it. I could see people.
Why it's hitting me the way it is, I can't,
I can't well answer. But there's flavor there, There's there's
something there. It's it's not perfectly my my flavor profile,
(23:07):
as I often discuss, but I can see it. I
can see this happening in people's lives. I think it
brings a lot to the table. I think that it's unique.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know, you just don't see this everywhere, uh, for
for those reasons and the price point, because we have
to re examine what we're spending on everything. I think
for me, this is in the liquor cabinet.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
The burning a chair, bourbon right there. Check it out
for yourself. It is time, Fingers beloway for news of
the week. Let's stick with the housing theme, shall we
tell you? By the way, we had a very interesting
conversation about how, yes, I'm accurate in the people expect
too much, have too many demands as first time home buyers.
(23:53):
Fingers made the argument, and he's accurate that if we're
building houses of three thousand plus square feet, if we're
building houses because people, the builder wants to maximize profit,
which I don't oppose, and so therefore you're in the
five six, seven hundred thousands. Never mind what land costs are.
Where is the starter home? Where does one get a start?
(24:15):
That is a real argument. I don't want that dismissed
from what you said, fingers Sit. It makes sense and
it's worthy of discussion. I would go back to where
these houses being built and what willingness do people have
to start their lives in a place where maybe they
didn't know they would be, but that's the place they
can afford to start their lives. Do you think that
(24:37):
if they weren't building all of those same exact kinds
of houses in Levittown, you know, on Long Islands, right
that style of house, they would have then gone to
the houses in Jersey, or gone to the houses in Connecticut,
or or somewhere else where this was happening where the
housing was affordable to do. So. I do think that
comes into play that people need to think about where
(24:59):
they can to start their lives in that regard, not
where they think they must be or demand to be.
But your point is well taken. If you aren't creating
things that allow somebody who's just starting out their lives
to move into they have no place to move into.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, and you may see a re examination of people
deciding where they're going to live based on the fact
that many people can now work remotely and they may
be able to move to smaller towns away from the
big city or into the country, and there may be.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
A move out of the city.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But what I was going to bring up a news
of the week is the Daily Mail has the story Foreclosure.
Foreclosures surge twenty percent as Americans struggle to pay their
mortgage and their are fears of a two thousand and
eight style crash. Now, we've been hearing this for a while,
right that there's a watch out for the real estate crash.
It's it's going to happen. I think where people need
(25:54):
to be concerned about a real estate crash is in
the commercial real estate market.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So there's a real question that hasn't happened already when
you talk about people not in the offices. Although a
lot of companies have ordered people back into the offices,
but there are also companies that have shed employees. I
don't know, we're not yet in the place where that
real estate, the commercial real estate settles out, a shakes
out but I agree with you, it has not come,
(26:20):
although it has been rumored for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to see how as
inflation continues to grip the economy, how it affects real estate.
You know, as property taxes increase, as homeowner's insurance increases.
Are we going to see more of these foreclosures moving forward.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's something to keep an eye on. Well, certainly if
we see large scale layoffs like Amazon and ups in
favor of AI and I don't know if that's even
gonna work out for them. Yeah, we could have further
bad things on the horizon. Thanks for reading the good news,
Shalla La lat. Only half the homes in America have
(27:09):
cable fingers one, really, that's a true story. I get
all my TV via closed circuit T Drink Smoke. I'm
Tony Katz. That is fingers bellow. I find everything at Eat, Drink, Smoke,
show dot com. Only half the homes in America have
cable TV. But the when you take a look at
(27:30):
streaming services and you add that price together, you might
as well have cable TV if you took the seven
most popular right, your your Netflix, your Hulu, your Disney
plus your Apple TV, you got your you got your
peacock there, you got your Paramount plus and a missing
a missing one. Let's say I'm missing one. I had
(27:52):
done the math on the basic plans. The cheapest plan
seventy two dollars. That's what you're paying them up and
nobody has the cheapest plans. So and people have every
streaming service under the sun, and they're paying one hundred bucks.
And there's a story in the Wall Street Journal about
how streaming services have gone up, and Disney is up
(28:14):
one hundred and seventy three percent in cost from where
it started. But in the end, everything is really in
that seventeen to twenty five dollars category. There are like
Paramount plus you can get for twelve dollars, right, that's
twelve dollars, not twelve ninety nine a month. But those
will eventually go up. People are paying the max for
as few commercials as possible and some extra added features.
(28:37):
It's just as expensive as cable. Why is it better?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Well, I will say that isn't this what we asked
for for? You know, twenty thirty years ago we were
screaming at cable companies to give us an ala Kart
service where instead of having to get a big package
of a cable service that included channels that we weren't
going to watch, you could pick and choose your channels. Well,
(29:01):
now you have an option of choosing the streaming service here,
the streaming service over there. There you can get by
with very little invested in your entertainment if you're willing
to not if you're willing to miss out on every
hot new TV show on the planet, right, I mean,
(29:22):
you can get on Pluto TV. It's free and there
are hundreds of stations on there now. Some of the
channels and the content maybe a little long in the tooth.
Yes that you know one of the stations that I
will tune into from time to time. And you and
I have talked about how we both were big fans
(29:42):
of Johnny Carson. There's a Johnny Carson channel. Yes, there
are old you know, the Andy Griffith Show channel. But
there are free options out there as well. So you know,
while I do agree that cable has gotten out of control,
there are options out there that you can you can
(30:04):
stretch your entertainment dollar and not break the budget.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
And if you're gonna be watching the Johnny Carson Channel,
do it while eating a steak from Defiancebeef dot Com.
I know, so cheesy, but the steaks are so good.
We made the meatballs with the ground beef this week,
absolutely spectacular. I did the chuck roasts after a marinade. Fantastic.
Defiance Beef is right here in Indiana and it stakes
(30:29):
directly to your door. You go to Definanesbeef dot Com,
use promo code, eat, drink smoke, and you're gonna get
one hundred and fifty dollars off your order right there,
and then everything is aged twenty one days. Incredible tenderness,
incredible beef flavor. And then they'll call you be like, Okay,
what do you want? And depending on whether you ordered
a quarter cow I have cow or an entire cow, Well,
(30:50):
that's how many strips you're gonna get, and how many
ribbis you're gonna get in and how many tenderloins, on
what size of brisket and everything else. You can decide
the thickness all of it. Well, at the Souper Bones Boom,
they'll send the soup phones. Defiance Beef right here in Indiana,
delivered directly to your door. Frozen ready to go right
into the chest freezer and then incredible on the grill.
You're going to love it. Go to Defiance Beef d
(31:12):
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code Eat, Drink, smoke and get one hundred and fifty
dollars off your order. Truly incredible and I think the
next slots book by December fourth, So you want to
make that happen. I know I don't want to date
the podcast or anything like that, but you'll go to
(31:32):
Defiance Beef. You'll see when it's available and then boom,
so easy to do Defiance Beef dot Com. I'm saying
about the cable half the people have cable. How many
of that group have it because wherever they rent from,
the cable comes with it. The basic cable's just part
of the deal. That's very possible.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I also think that another segment of the cable purchasing
customer is a season citizens like a finger smoly senior
that wants his cable TV. He wants a cable box,
he wants to be able to switch the chance and
he doesn't want to go to fifteen different apps to
get his entertainment.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think that's very true as well. It's what you're
used to, it's what you're comfortable with, and you're not
buying into some television or really it's not television, it's
content trends. Right, The big giant screen that sits in
your living room is nothing more than a content delivery device.
It's the screen, that's all it is, and everything else
is the app to which you are getting that content.
(32:33):
I there was a moment there where everything that all
this content that was being created for TV was incredible.
It was like a golden age of television. I don't
know if we're there anymore. Do you think that we're
still in a place. I mean, there's a stuff Taylor
Sheridan is doing with like Landman and some of those shows.
(32:53):
Are we in a place of spectacular TV? And I
can buy the way I can point to good television shows.
The a fan fair around things like Severns for example, right,
gets people very very excited.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I have just sat down and watched a new television show.
I'm I'm I'm binge watching. It's called The Crown. It's
brand new. It just came out. People are really really
into it.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
It didn't just come out. Oh and how How did
missus molloy sucker you into this? She didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I wanted to watch it only because I've seen several
clips online through the instagrams there uh and it was
all of John Lithgow playing Winston Churchill, and I was like, oh,
there's a lot of Churchill in this. I'm I'm a
middle aged man. I'm into Churchill, so I want to
(33:49):
watch the show. You know what I'm finding out little
of it has to do with Winston Churchill.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Shocking, shocking. I say, you want something that's shocking, we see,
we would do it. Fingers Maloy, what did you eat today?
As you well know, Fingers Maloy has the worst diet
in the history of mankind. It doesn't come from a
convenience dore or a gas station. Fingers Willy says, I
don't touch that stuff. And today he said, you don't
(34:16):
want to know what I had today? So okay, now
I want to know Fingers is going to tell us
what he ate today, and then we will ask the
age old question, Fingers Maloy, how are you still alive? Fingers?
What did you eat today? Well?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I started out the morning at a gas station. What
and this gas station has breakfast sandwiches pre made sausage,
egg and cheese biscuit.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Oh that sounds the life.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
And right next to the sandwiches there's a little tiny
compartment with windows that you open up and they have
donuts in them.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I believe they're called doors. Oh wow, what did I say? Windows? Windows?
But the windows with handles doors? And in that they
had the donuts.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And so I got one of those chocolate covered Long
John's with a creamy filling in.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
The middle and the breakfast sandwich. Yes, and I chased
it with a forty four ounce diet coke. That was breakfast.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
For lunch, I had a Missus Fresh Lea's honey bun
not frosted, and a.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
And a Pepsi zero.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And then on my way to eat drink Smoke Studios,
I had a big Mac with a medium fry, a
diet coke and a holiday pie.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Holiday pie? Is that real? Yes? You've never had a
holiday pie from McDonald's. You know what. I don't have
the time to get into that now. We asked the
question that has confused scientists for eons. Fingers, myloy, how
are you still alive?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I did two burpies this afternoon. I feel fantastic.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
That is I I had. What is happening? We need
to get your holiday pie. Clearly, we need to get
me a holiday pie. Smoking from La Aurora in nineteen
oh three, Cameroon five and three quarter by fifty four
seven dollars a stick. Yeah, all day. It's a nice cigar.
(36:16):
It is worthwhile to have a few of those in
the humid or the burning chair. Bourbon right here coming
in at fifty four dollars at ninety nine cents a bottle.
Finger says yes, I'd say probably in the liquor cabinet
for a lot of people. Try it yourself. Just threw
off a lot of heat to me. Find everything we
(36:37):
do on the podcast revenution. You get your podcasts just
look for eat, drink, smoke and on all the social
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