December 28, 2025 • 37 mins
Fingers Malloy is officially the worst person in the world. At least according to Tony Katz — who is now sick, blaming Fingers for transmitting a cold through the internet, and attempting to smoke a cigar anyway like the grown man he is.
This week on Eat Drink Smoke, Tony and Fingers power through head colds, sinus misery, and questionable medical science to bring you the Crowned Heads Belgian Blue (2025) — a hard box-pressed, crease-sharp, San Andrés-wrapped cigar that might actually be capable of giving you a paper cut. Is it peppery? Cocoa-forward? Woodsy? Impossible to say when your nose is completely useless… but that won’t stop the debate.
Along the way:
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Cigars as a COLD prevention (according to the Fingers Malloy Institute of Institutes for Institutes)
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Why smoking with a cold is a terrible idea — and why they did it anyway
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Grocery stores were closing for Christmas, and the panic of running out of tarragon
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The case for growing your own herbs… or at least inventing Pocket Parsley
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HOA rules, neighbor signatures, dumpsters, and why HOAs attract a certain type
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Why parsley is pointless, basil rules, and Captain Crunch is the real garnish
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Rob Reiner, Spinal Tap, Hollywood logic, and why “the show must go on”
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The secrets to living past 90 (according to the internet), including butter, routine, walking, and sheer stubbornness
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Fingers Malloy Sr., 87 years old, eating like a legend and proving cholesterol fears are a myth
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Vacation cigars, $2 sticks, and why the ritual matters even when the flavors don’t
It’s bourbon, cigars, food, culture, and two guys refusing to cancel a show just because their sinuses are trying to kill them.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, it's official. Fingers Maloy is the worst person in
the world. Just this week see Drinks Smoke, Come Tony Katz,
And that right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Myloy.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And he's the worst person because he was ill last week.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
He had a cold last week, and now I have
a cold and he gave it to.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Me even though we haven't seen each other in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, aside from that, we know, I get blamed for everything.
Oh we know, smoking the Belgian blue right here from
the good people of Crowned Heads.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It's an annual release they do.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
They do a lot of annual releases, and I got
a real question about whether or not there are too
many annual releases going on. But I love Crownheads, John Huber,
the whole team out of there. This is a five
and a half by fifty six, which means it's five
and one half inches long.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Tea I always makes Fingers Boy laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And the ring age is a fifty six the diameter
of the cigar or how it is around. Yeah, that's
a that's a better one. That's world class right there.
So yeah, I have this cold. It's on the nose
and it's in the head and the copp has started,
and I blame you, you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Terrible, terrible human being.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So you're saying that, you know, we did the show
virtually last week from two different studios. You're saying through
the computer connection we had I somehow gave you a virus.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I have an AI could there it is? That is
highly accurate.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Right here Mexican San Andreas, rapper, Ecuadorian, and the binder
and the filler is coming from the Dominican and Nicaragua.
That's what we've got here. It is a very very
nice feeling wrapper, lots of oil in there. There's a
smoothness almost to touch a suede going on. The wrapper
is a very nice dark brown. What is interesting is
(01:53):
that the corners of this box press have actual creases.
Could have been just been how it went in the box.
Feel that feel that right there, that is an actual crease,
like an edge, like you can cut paper with this,
like you got it from the cleaners, like like it's
been starched.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes, that is very weird. I have not I have
not seen that in my days, you know, I've been
smoking so long it's in my days.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I see there right here, fingers you have lit this up.
You're puffing away. What's happening with you?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, right at the light. Just a nice bit of
pepper and that's about it. But you you just said it.
I just lit this what a minute ago? So that's
all I can give you right now, is it is
a nice bit of pepper around the light. I fear,
you know, I still have my cold. I fear that
(02:45):
my palette will be influenced by this.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Is it in your nose? Is it in your right?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
By the way, we don't advise this, for you know,
anybody who's smart, you shouldn't have a cold and smoke
a cigar.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And in the main we don't. We don't. But the problem,
all right, so here's here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm not saying this is medicinal. First of all, it's
always medicinal. Son, It's how neither one of us ever
got COVID. Oh, cigars kept away covid. That that is science.
The CDC gave the Fingers Maloy instant. Well, you know what,
why don't you tell them Fingers.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You tell them cigars keep away covid.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
According to the Fingers Maloy Institute of Institutes for Institutes,
and they would deny that I got COVID twice.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Right, COVID you don't smoke when you have a cold.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
The problem was I was taking a look at the
calendar next week because of Christmas is so screwed up
and our schedules are so different. I didn't want to
not smoke something this week and then who knows what's
gonna happen next week. We're a cigar and bourbon, you know,
kind of focused show. If you're not smoking cigars, honestly,
what exactly is happening here? So we said we're gonna
(03:58):
we're gonna we're gonna buckle down, We're gonna fight through it.
We're grown men. We're gonna stop complaining is it cold
in here?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And then.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We'd bring in the show. So that's that's what we're doing.
This was a nice way to do it. Picked something
that was gonna play big, right, something that was gonna
plays a big, large scale kind of kind of smoke. Now,
not giant, not massive, but the Belgian Blue is certainly.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Going to hit in a couple of ways.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You talk about spice fingers, by the way, black pepper,
white pepper, red pepper, you're talking about something that's more
of a baking spice.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's a wood spice where.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You at you know, I would have said white pepper,
but now I'm getting more towards a black pepper and
maybe a little bit of a baking spice. Originally, I mean,
when we just lit it, it hit me right away.
I'm not gonna say it was a pepper bomb, but
it was. It was a nice belt of pepper to
the face. But that's kind of subsided, and I I
(04:55):
don't want to go any further than that because I'm
I don't know if I'm making stuff up in my head.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
We're we're so early on in the first third of
the cigar.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, you want to grab your notebooks at this point
and write down what'd you eat today, what'd you drink today?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
What's the weather? Finally, not frigid, frigid temperatures.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
In Indianapolis, Indiana as many people across the Midwest have.
We're dealing with super cold tempts. Starting to see things nice,
starting to see the snow melt.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I mean it's I won't say it's beautiful out,
but for December, temperatures are in the forties. If you're
watching us on YouTube right now, Tony's wearing a tank top.
It's really really warm outside for a December day. Turns
out my color mesh ah.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So what'd you eat today? What did you drink today?
Then take the cigar, break it up into the third.
It's first, third, second, third, final, third, no matter what
cigar it is, What are the flavors you're getting out
of each third of the cigar? You want to write
that down in a notebook, any spiral notebook we'll do. And
then when you try that cigar month from now, six
months from now, whatever it is, you do it again
and you check your notes, you compare your notes, find
your through line. What is it that you really felt
out of that cigar, and don't worry about the flavors
(06:01):
you're getting. It can be very simple, it could be
very esoteric, means nothing. It's what it is that's continually
happening from certain types of tobacco blended with certain types
of tobacco, that gives you a certain feeling. And then
you're able to decide the kind of cigars the best
work for you. Even though we're believers that you should
try everything and smoke absolutely everything.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
That you can.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
The Belgian blue right here from crowned heads? My are
you able to get anything off of the cigar? So
here's the problem. I'm going to redo this. You know,
I'm gonna have to redo it right here because my
nose is just my nose is just stuffed it is,
so right now, what I get is cigar.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Ah, Let's play America's second favorite game.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Let's watch Tony retro hail.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Honestly, if I could retro haal, everything that is clogging
my sinus, says would pour right out. It'd be like
the River Thames right here in the studio, by the way, who.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Had River Thames on their big no card free drink smell?
Huh ha, Oh god, there's nothing. There's nothing more crappy
than the basic cold.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, because it's not enough to complain about, but it's
just enough to ruin everything.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And then on top of it, I mean, anyone who's
listened to you for any length of time can tell
that there's something going on with your voice right now.
You do something really, you do sound a little stuffed up.
So as soon as people get that sense that you
may have a cold, they have to ask you.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And then that's something you want to talk about. Oh
are you are you okay? Do you have a cold?
Are you? Are you under the weather. I don't mind
if they ask, I mind when they say, well, you
know what you gotta do. You know what you gotta do.
Kill a live lobster.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That's gonna get rid of your cold right away.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Everyone's got a plant. Well, you gotta take the zinc. Oh,
you gotta take the zycaeb You know what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You gotta God turned around three times and spit and
then boom, No colds. Right worked for my aunt Sheila. Oh,
Aunt Sheila, no more cold? Got hit by a bus.
But no more cold.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
There it is. I was gonna say she's dead now right.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Ah. So the answer is I don't know. Maybe I
will get something out of this. I hate to waste it,
John ground Heads, I'm not trying to.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But it was on the list.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I knew I wanted to get to it in twenty
twenty five because it got released in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We'll see if I get any flavor. Look at it
this way, John, it's gonna make him feel better. That's
how I and.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
If not, crowds heads, we're gonna do what America does.
We're going to soup. That is a lot of closed
grocery stores. I mean, that's a.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Crazy amount of Oh oh, they're not closing, They're just
closing for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yes, oh gosh, I read that wrong. It's eat drink
smoke of Tony Kats. I thought it was the end
of Days. Wow, you thought it was nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Huh, Tony Kats fingers will eat drink smoke.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The grocery store is closed on Christmas. I have a question.
Sure were they ever open on Christmas?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
The only place I've ever traveled to on Christmas is
a friend's house or a Chinese restaurant.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That is what my people do.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I'm gonna be on vacation for Christmas, already, got the
Chinese food restaurant already reserved.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Done by the way, happy honkah ah to Donna BARKI
thank you so very much.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I appreiate a glorious honkah to one and all.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I listen.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I don't make a habit of going to the grocery
store on Christmas Day, so I can't tell you for
sure if you know this has been something that's common.
I feel like I remember there's a local Midwestern chain
called Meyer thrifty acres here in thrifty acres, myyer thrifty acres?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Is that what it was called? Yes, I didn't know that. Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And I want to say I ran there one Christmas
twenty years ago to get cranberry sauce because you can't
have Christmas dinner without canned cranberry sauce.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think you can. No, you can't. I'm pretty sure
you can.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's actually outlawed in Michigan. You have to have cranberry
sauce Christmas dinner. So I this may be relatively new.
That have all of them closed like this and bye bye.
What I mean by all of them is you look
down this list and all the major chains seem to
be closed, right. Costco has closed all these closed, HGB
is closed, Hive is closed, Kroger, Sam's Clubs, Sprouts, Target,
(10:48):
Trader Joe's, Walmart, Wegman's, Whole Foods.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't know what a wind Co is, but they're
all closed. So what do you do?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It's Christmas and you realize I'm fresh out of Tarrago.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You don't grow your own that's not in this weather.
You don't have a grow light, a grow room for
your tarragon. Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Can I tell you that? My wife comes to me
and says, you know what we should do? And I said, well,
this is gonna be fascinating. We should we should enclose
the deck. I said, we should do what we should like,
enclose the deck so instead of just four season room,
it's all year round, but we should do it like
(11:32):
a greenhouse, so it's windows all the way so we
still have the view. And I looked at her and
I said, you are a genius and hot. So now
I'm looking into that. I'm never gonna move. I'm gonna
you have to bury me here. I'm going to die here.
But if I did that, then yes, I would totally
be a guy who grows my own tarragon. We do
(11:55):
in the spring, summer, fall. We do grow our own basil,
and we grow our own dell mmm part part basil,
Dill Parsley.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's fantastic. I partially confuses me.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I don't understand why people add that to a dish
at all, because it adds.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It adds nothing, It adds crunch.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, then why not just get a handful of Captain
crunch then and throw it on.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Your dish as well. It does. I grow my own
Captain crunch.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
By the way, sometimes it's subtle and sometimes it's textual,
and sometimes really we forget how much we eat with
our eyes and and and especially when you're doing some
of those pasta dishes, and that that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Little that little sprinkle it so.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Can it becomes so pleasing and so uh salivating at
that moment that everything else kind of works with it.
That that's fair.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Sometimes when I walk into the gas station and I
grab myself to dogs, I think to myself, I forgot
my Pocket Parsley to make this hot dog go to
the next level. And I go ahead and eat it anyway,
because you know, why waste food.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But the question I have for you, I.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Just want to go back to Pucket Parsley because I
I smell a winter idea. Somebody, somebody gets shark tank
on the line. We gotta go present.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
By the way, I saw Pocket Parsley open for Rusted
Root in eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It was a fantastic show.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Nice, but going back to the enclosed deck, turning it
into some sort.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Of grow room. What would be a grow room? It
would just it would have that kind of look.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Oh, yeah, because you realize I love this idea the neighbors.
If you have this setup and then all of a
sudden you're you're bringing in uh grow lights and air circulation,
people may may ask questions.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I only hope that they do. I only hope that
they do so. So do you have to get HOA
approval for such a structure? Can we discuss HOA approval
for a moment?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Please? Do you know how much?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
There are two things I love to talk about, social
media outrage and HOA approval.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
When we built the eattering smoke studios here at my home,
we had to get HOA approval.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Understand, we're adding to it. It's very very easy.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
But there was a form and I looked at my
wife and I said, nope. The form said that you
had to get the okay via signature from your neighbors,
and not just the neighbors on each side, anybody who's
behind you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Which there's nobody behind us, and those around you.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So picture your house is in the middle pictured a
grid where you're in the middle like exce's the center square,
and then you've got eight houses around you. People across
the street, Hey need you to sign this and I
just I looked at it and I said, like, like
Peter Griffin done, and I just walked away. I couldn't
(15:13):
you have to ask your neighbors approvement. I don't have
to ask my neighbors for anything. I barely have.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
To wave, although I do because I'm super friendly as.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Opposed to Oh no, I'm a great waiver to the
neighbors as I pull into the garage and avoid all kinds.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Wave to your new neighbors, Oh, absolutely, have you met them? Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And I have to say the new neighborhood, everyone is
incredibly friendly, and everyone is walking around, they're getting their
exercise and I.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Fit right in.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
But everybody's walking around introducing themselves and that's me. Yeah, exactly, uh,
and that's that's been nice. You know, we're doing some
home improvement projects at the houses. Well we're gonna be
finished the basement, and it just struck me. I've run
across on social media there's this woman who she inherited
(16:09):
her dad's condo and he was head of the hoa
and the condo board there and he was a hoarder.
And so she's documenting her horder journey as she cleans
out this condo. And one of the things the HOA
does not allow is a dumpster in front of the
(16:31):
house for any length of time.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And I've had, you know, I did.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
A room edition at my old house and there were
no questions asked about a dumpster. I don't know is
that common. I mean, did you have to get approval
to have a dumpster in your driveway for a temporary project.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
From the now we said, hey, we're doing this, and
they said great, and that was it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I know for dumpster no, I would hope not.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I mean, we'd always dump everything in the neighborhood pond,
right and then make him feel better.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Hoa's are are nuts and the people are serious about
their HOA.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Oh, we got a guy in the neighborhood retiree. He's
passionate about the HOA.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We'll get into it. Eat drinks. Smoking is your cigar?
Bourbon FOODI extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That is Fingers Beloy, the Belgian blue from Crowned Heads.
This is the twenty twenty five dishm the San Andreas
wrapper right there. And the biggest problem with having a
cold and smoking a cigar is that you know you
kind of miss the nuances. I'm kind of missing Fingers
Bloy because fingers it was the one who had the
cold last week and now I have the cold.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
We haven't seen each other in two weeks, but it's
still my fault that he got sick today. It's right
right through the computer.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So for me that that spice still kind of lingers
on the palette. There's a little bit of maybe some
cocoa and some wood, but it has smoked wonderfully. I
haven't had to touch it up. Maybe once I've had
to touch it up. It's got We didn't even talk
about the Handfield's got a nice handfield.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It's stocky, right.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's a very hard box press like mine has a
crease mine could mine.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Could give you a paper cut? Would you say it
looks like it has been martinized.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It it it has uh just the right amount of
crunch ah, Right, it's just happened to be a hard
box press on those But you know, you brought up
the fact that you're sick, uh, and it's it all
seems to be tired. It all seems to be right
in the sinus area. So it's difficult to get any
(18:49):
cigar notes at all. Yeah, uh it it is and
and I I I'll smoke another one when I when
I'm feeling better, when when this is all gone. So
I'm in the place where it's moving from the nose
to the throat and my voice will be gone tomorrow,
it just will. I know exactly what's gonna happen. I
know exactly how this process works. It stinks to high
(19:12):
heaven because it's just annoying. Oh and by the way,
I do radio for a living. I mean I do
this and then I do six hours of radio a
day locally in Indianapolis and nationally syndicated. So this is
it's the problem. But it happens every year. It just
it just hits me. And that's all.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
There is to it.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But this is an emergency because you're going away on
vacation and you're going to a place where, uh, there's
the possibility for a lot of cigar smoking.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I don't want to say where. I may have already
said where, but I don't want to say where. But
the answer is, I'll be fine. I will fight through it.
Do you know why, Because I'm a man.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
There it is, But when you're on vacation, and you
feel like this, are you still gonna smoke cigar? Does
it influence your cigar choice when you have uh.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh god, I'll be smoking two dollars cigars all week there.
It is absolutely absolutely And I'll be like, I don't
care if I'm sick. I am not giving up this,
this view, this weather, this anything, I will go through
the motion.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Because people who don't smoke cigars, they don't get how
even if you're not getting the notes that you would
like to get from a cigar, it's just so relaxing.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Oh, there's such as a there is such a joyous
zen to it. I I have.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I do not like to do work what I'm smoking
a cigar because I'm not I'm focused on the work
and I'm not focused on the cigar and I'm not
focused on the moment, and that's not the that's not
the point. That is not the point to it. So
I've started like what I'm like preparing for something and
I've got to write something. The cigar is out of
(20:52):
the picture. I gotta get done. And that It wasn't
always the way for me, not the slightest, but has
become a.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Huge part of the way. But when you're doing one
of your radio shows during the week. You're smoking cigars,
aren't you. So is it just not this week? Not
this week? But is it just one of your Okay,
I'm having an everyday stick nothing special.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Absolutely. Now that's different because that's like how I do
this show. And it doesn't bother me the slightest. It's
when I'm writing and I have to put it down.
If I'm talking, all right, I could do this and
I'll focused.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I'm engaging all the things.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
If you can't see me, there's a lot of hand
movement here, there's a lot of Wow. He's seen a
lot of movies with Italians, and someone's gonna yell at
me for that.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Someone's gonna yell at me.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
For it's Sebastiard Menecollsco's I can't even pronounce his name
now because of the cold. But that's the impression. You've
never seen that comic.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yes I have. He's the coffee cake guy.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yes, yes, he's the coffee he'd like to be known
as the coffee cake. He doesn't care as long as
you buy a ticket. I don't think he gives a damn.
But the Belgian Blue is what we are smoking A
five and a half by fifty six box Press Fingers malloy.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It is time for news of the Week, Tony.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
The release of Rob Reiner's final film, a concert film
called Spinal Tap at Stonehenge. The final finale has been
delayed following the murder of the filmmaker and his wife, Michelle.
Variety reported that the film's US distributors said that the
project release was originally schedule for twenty twenty six, but
(22:26):
it will be delayed and it will be determined between
the distributor along with the family when the best time
to release the film will be.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
So, Rob Reiner, his wife Michelle murdered allegedly by their
son in their sleep.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I hope in their sleep, but in their bed. It's
beyond horrifying.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I don't care what you think of Rob Reiner's politics,
and I have many many thoughts. That's not our conversation here,
horrifying story. I don't know why anything has to be
delayed at all.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
The movies. Is the movie done care good to go?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I believe so. But you got to think about promotion
of the film. Who's going to promote it? Other than
of course the guys body and the guys you know
in spinal Tap, but everybody they're going to promote it.
There's gonna be a listen this story. You know, we
moved from the horrible events and the coverage of the
events to the eventual trial. This is going to take
(23:31):
a while and emotions are obviously going to be raw.
It's got to be difficult to promote a film like
this with with this cloud over everyone's head.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I don't know if it is. Why, why why would
we assume such a thing? I don't I honestly don't
know what you're saying. How the film is done, The
film has to get out, that the the the people
who made the film have to get their money back.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What's the art? Give it here? I'm just telling you you're
not making any sense, though, so I'm being a human beings.
I know you're a robot.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You're wrong, but some of us have a feeling that
is not feelings. This is about releasing a film. The
film's made. Of course, you release it now. If you
want to wait a couple weeks to make sure you've
got the right release, that's fine. I'm not opposed to
such a thing. But the idea that somehow all of
this is such a big decision. I reject that.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, that's not a big It could be that the
person who was involved in the decision is no longer
with us, and there also has to be a procedure
in place to be able to figure out if someone
else can immediately step in and say it's it's okay
to release it.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It could be that too. Again, is the movie done now?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
If the movie wasn't done, if the movie wasn't complete,
if there's still some work to.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Do on it, well then that's a thing I would
agree with you.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But if it's done, I'm not I'm not hurting anybody's legacy.
I'm not insulting anybody. I'm not just saying I understand it.
If you don't understand it, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That's the reason why they call me fingers Hollywood malloy,
and you just don't understand how the inner workings of
Hollywood uh work? Listen, Fingers, dalist Maloya explain something to you.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I I tried, we're making light of this, and we're not.
We're not.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
No, It's it's that what happened to the show must
go on. I'm asking a question the show must go on.
They spent all this money, did all this work, and
now someone's gonna side, well, it's just too painful to release.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
No, it's not too painful to release.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I'm just speculating. Let it go, let people enjoy it.
They want to see it. Don't you want to see it?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes? Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
And I can't believe I haven't seen Spinal Tap two
yet and I was going to run to the theater,
uh to see it. I think it was only in
theaters for a couple of weeks, and you know, I'm
incredibly busy, so I didn't get a chance to see it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So, wait, this isn't this is a different spinal tap.
This is a concert.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Oh okay, So it's like that you know they have
from what I've seen in the trailer they perform a concert.
In the movie, there's concert footage. So maybe they just
did a whole concert for people and they recorded it
and they're gonna say, Okay, here's another here's another spinal
tap film.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I'm just saying that people are going to rally around
it no matter when you put it out though there's
no there's no right time, there's.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
No wrong time. I think it will be highly successful.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely, and hopefully because it's actually good and entertaining.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well spinal tap, how could it not be? That's that's
that is my take. That is what I hope. Horrible
story though, Yeah, absolutely fight Fingers.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I know you have been doing a tremendous amount of
research on how you can live forever.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Ever Ever, I already know, oh you do, because I'm
going to live forever and how you're gonna do it.
I'm gonna learn how to fly. Hi, I feel it
coming together. People will see me and cry. I Irene Kara.
You know you try to have your finger on the
(27:32):
fame of pop culture and it's just completely Did you
just do.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
A fame reference? Are we gonna get a whold Debbie
Allen speech? Well, fame costs and right here is where
you pay in sweat?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Mess with me? Did I say hello?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
See trick smoke? I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite
averageur drinker. Fingers molloy. Uh, there's a story from the
place for Fingers. Foy gets all his Live Forever news
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Speaker 3 (28:06):
Listen, if you're gonna live forever, you're gonna wanna vedge
out longevity.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Researchers say people who live past ninety all share these
eight surprising daily habits.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Habit number one waking up. All right, you wanna go
through this, You wanna go through this list?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
What do the people who live to the age of
ninety now living to the age of ninety?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Here's the only question. Are they aware? Wow? That's dark? Ooh,
there's different between being alive and living. That's true.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well, I'm working for the purposes of this conversation, will
assume that they are aware. Number one on the list
they stay connected to people decades younger. And I'll give
you a good example. Say you're the former head coach
of the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh jijus, Oh, poor Jordan.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
How did she need to deserve this? Did you see folk?
There was a story the other day.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I've heard her cheerleading competition and grandpa was.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
There holding hands. Okay, there's a lot a man will
do for a woman. Seventy five year old.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Is that young? She's twenty four or something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, he's sitting in the stands dying inside. Right, if
we're being honest, he's dying inside. But while he's doing that,
because he's staying connected to people decades younger and with her.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
He's really connected right the fact that he coaches college
at UNC.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
By the way, I see my coach at seventy five
with the twenty four year old Toddy sitting in the
stands watching her cheerleading competition. I immediately hit the transfer portal.
I couldn't hit the transfer portal hard enough. Really, that
is not a guy focused unwinning. He's winning something else.
But I need to win football games.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I'm thinking I want to be just like that guy
when I grow up fifty years from now.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Great.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
First step, fine Tom Brady, second step, question mark, third
step profit?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Good lord? What else?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Thank connect with people younger than you, young at heart,
young mind.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I get all that. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So Number two they walk a lot. They walk. You
gotta keep moving, right, I know. That's the fitness regimen
that I have. I walk at least twenty two miles
a day. Oh yeah, that's how I stay looking thirty
three years old.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You look great, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Number three on the list they eat the same foods repeatedly.
And I have to tell you, I have noticed this
about Fingers Moy senior. For those who are just tuning
in fingers Moly Senior, uh moved in if you haven't
been following to my house. He's eighty seven years old.
He likes to eat the same things over and over again.
(31:04):
He starts the day two eggs, Sonny, side up, three
links of sausage, nice, and two pieces of sour dough bread.
Doesn't get sick of it? You would think after it,
wouldn't you get sick of having the same breakfast over
and over again?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It depends on the breakfast.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
How about this breakfast? Two eggs Sonny, sign up, three
links of sausage and some sour dough toast.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So is the toast buttered? Yes? Oh yeah, sounds delicious.
I could eat that. I know.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He doesn't care that I share this information. He puts
half a stick of butter on his bread. Good for him,
and goes through a jar of mayonnaise a week wait,
eighty seven. Yes, it's crazy. You hear all the things
you're not supposed to do, and it's like it's raining cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It's like the great line from George Burns.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He's on with Johnny Carson, and Johnny Carson ass how
many cigars do you smoke? Because it smokes ten cigars
a day, and Johnny says, what does your doctor think
of it? Before you can finish, George Burns goes, my
doctor is dead. That's that's buy is so good. It's
delivered so perfectly. George knew where this was going before
(32:17):
it happened. What he was gonna say, it was glorious.
Good on fingers, mulo, I see in your fine work
that he's doing.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So that's what he has for breakfast. What does he
have for lunch?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
A sandwich okay, yeah, and low sodium bread or lo
sodium ham excuse me, okay. And then for dinner whatever
we make for dinner. But a lot of times he
goes ahead and makes his own dinner because dinner's at
four o'clock. Oh, because that's that's I don't know what
it is about the elderly and they have to eat
dinner before five. But that's a thing and it's real,
(32:51):
and he does that.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So he'll have whatever you're making, like like a steak.
We don't usually listen.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
We're just a regular meat and potatoes, blue collar family.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Tony.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I know it, well, meat and potatoes, roast, maybe chicken.
I know, you know it's raining steak here all the
time at the cat's household. But you know, steak is
a is a is a treat at our house.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
So go go more on the list. You did that,
what else do you go?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
They maintain a daily routine without being rigid. So they
wake up around the same time, they eat roughly at
the same hours, have activities they do regularly. But if
something disrupts that routine, they adapt without stress.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, that hard.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I'm not buying that for a second. They do not
adapt without stress. Somebody has stress. It might not be them,
but somebody has definite stress. I have not, and you
know you have, you know, elderly parents, parents, parent Uh,
I don't feel like I don't know if this is
(34:04):
the way it is for you, throwing curveballs in the schedule,
it's the schedule has to be changed days in advance.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
My mother is pretty easy going. She's pretty easy flowing
in the in the stuff. She's fine with it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Whatever, that's cool, that's great, right, And so there there's
a real positive to that. And there are times where
I wish she was a little bor No no, no,
I've got my thing.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I got a thing. No, no, no, I'm done. I'm going
to this. I'm gonna go see that person.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'm gonna do that thing. I'm busy. No no, make
that another day. I'm too busy for that. No no, no, no,
I would I would actually enjoy that. I would like
that for her. Right, It's it's like your kids.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Like I could say that I've got excellent kids and
they don't get in trouble. And also I'd like it
if they got into a little bit of trouble.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Right, you want them to have, uh these some experiences
to be like, oh my gosh, that was nuts, and
you a little bit of Now I'm doing this, let
other people figure it out. Let other people, Uh, you know,
change their schedules for me. I don't have to change
my schedule for them. Adaptivity, no I want. I'm not
(35:23):
going to adapt. I'm going to do exactly what I'm doing.
Change today.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That was my point. They stay involved in their community.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Everyone that this person has known lived well past their nineties, uh,
was embedded in their local community. They knew their neighbors.
This was one thing that my father in his neighborhood,
all the neighbors talked and they were all over seventy
and it's so foreign to him that when he moved
(35:51):
down here, nobody talks. And I think that you you
said that when you moved to Indiana you felt the
same way right there there. I don't know what it
is about Indiana. And by the way, not complaining that
you know people aren't is outgoing and friendly and you know,
maybe you'll get a high and that's fine by me.
(36:13):
But on to sit and talk for an hour with
your neighbor across the picket fence. That that doesn't happen
very often.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
No, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Also, picket fences don't happen very often either. It's an
interesting list. It's about staying focused, staying active, and staying
you know, recognizing that.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
You're still alive, which I think is a huge, huge
part of it. Exercise your brain, live, laugh, love, look
at you like a poet. Keep it here. It's eat, drink, smoke.
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Wow, it's official. Fingers Maloy is the worst person in
the world. Just this week see Drinks Smoke, Come Tony Katz,
And that right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Myloy.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And he's the worst person because he was ill last week.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
He had a cold last week, and now I have
a cold and he gave it to.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Me even though we haven't seen each other in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, aside from that, we know, I get blamed for everything.
Oh we know, smoking the Belgian blue right here from
the good people of Crowned Heads.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It's an annual release they do.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
They do a lot of annual releases, and I got
a real question about whether or not there are too
many annual releases going on. But I love Crownheads, John Huber,
the whole team out of there. This is a five
and a half by fifty six, which means it's five
and one half inches long.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Tea I always makes Fingers Boy laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And the ring age is a fifty six the diameter
of the cigar or how it is around. Yeah, that's
a that's a better one. That's world class right there.
So yeah, I have this cold. It's on the nose
and it's in the head and the copp has started,
and I blame you, you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Terrible, terrible human being.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So you're saying that, you know, we did the show
virtually last week from two different studios. You're saying through
the computer connection we had I somehow gave you a virus.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I have an AI could there it is? That is
highly accurate.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Right here Mexican San Andreas, rapper, Ecuadorian, and the binder
and the filler is coming from the Dominican and Nicaragua.
That's what we've got here. It is a very very
nice feeling wrapper, lots of oil in there. There's a
smoothness almost to touch a suede going on. The wrapper
is a very nice dark brown. What is interesting is
(01:53):
that the corners of this box press have actual creases.
Could have been just been how it went in the box.
Feel that feel that right there, that is an actual crease,
like an edge, like you can cut paper with this,
like you got it from the cleaners, like like it's
been starched.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes, that is very weird. I have not I have
not seen that in my days, you know, I've been
smoking so long it's in my days.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I see there right here, fingers you have lit this up.
You're puffing away. What's happening with you?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, right at the light. Just a nice bit of
pepper and that's about it. But you you just said it.
I just lit this what a minute ago? So that's
all I can give you right now, is it is
a nice bit of pepper around the light. I fear,
you know, I still have my cold. I fear that
(02:45):
my palette will be influenced by this.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Is it in your nose? Is it in your right?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
By the way, we don't advise this, for you know,
anybody who's smart, you shouldn't have a cold and smoke
a cigar.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And in the main we don't. We don't. But the problem,
all right, so here's here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm not saying this is medicinal. First of all, it's
always medicinal. Son, It's how neither one of us ever
got COVID. Oh, cigars kept away covid. That that is science.
The CDC gave the Fingers Maloy instant. Well, you know what,
why don't you tell them Fingers.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You tell them cigars keep away covid.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
According to the Fingers Maloy Institute of Institutes for Institutes,
and they would deny that I got COVID twice.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Right, COVID you don't smoke when you have a cold.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
The problem was I was taking a look at the
calendar next week because of Christmas is so screwed up
and our schedules are so different. I didn't want to
not smoke something this week and then who knows what's
gonna happen next week. We're a cigar and bourbon, you know,
kind of focused show. If you're not smoking cigars, honestly,
what exactly is happening here? So we said we're gonna
(03:58):
we're gonna we're gonna buckle down, We're gonna fight through it.
We're grown men. We're gonna stop complaining is it cold
in here?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And then.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We'd bring in the show. So that's that's what we're doing.
This was a nice way to do it. Picked something
that was gonna play big, right, something that was gonna
plays a big, large scale kind of kind of smoke. Now,
not giant, not massive, but the Belgian Blue is certainly.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Going to hit in a couple of ways.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You talk about spice fingers, by the way, black pepper,
white pepper, red pepper, you're talking about something that's more
of a baking spice.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's a wood spice where.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You at you know, I would have said white pepper,
but now I'm getting more towards a black pepper and
maybe a little bit of a baking spice. Originally, I mean,
when we just lit it, it hit me right away.
I'm not gonna say it was a pepper bomb, but
it was. It was a nice belt of pepper to
the face. But that's kind of subsided, and I I
(04:55):
don't want to go any further than that because I'm
I don't know if I'm making stuff up in my head.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
We're we're so early on in the first third of
the cigar.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, you want to grab your notebooks at this point
and write down what'd you eat today, what'd you drink today?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
What's the weather? Finally, not frigid, frigid temperatures.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
In Indianapolis, Indiana as many people across the Midwest have.
We're dealing with super cold tempts. Starting to see things nice,
starting to see the snow melt.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I mean it's I won't say it's beautiful out,
but for December, temperatures are in the forties. If you're
watching us on YouTube right now, Tony's wearing a tank top.
It's really really warm outside for a December day. Turns
out my color mesh ah.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So what'd you eat today? What did you drink today?
Then take the cigar, break it up into the third.
It's first, third, second, third, final, third, no matter what
cigar it is, What are the flavors you're getting out
of each third of the cigar? You want to write
that down in a notebook, any spiral notebook we'll do. And
then when you try that cigar month from now, six
months from now, whatever it is, you do it again
and you check your notes, you compare your notes, find
your through line. What is it that you really felt
out of that cigar, and don't worry about the flavors
(06:01):
you're getting. It can be very simple, it could be
very esoteric, means nothing. It's what it is that's continually
happening from certain types of tobacco blended with certain types
of tobacco, that gives you a certain feeling. And then
you're able to decide the kind of cigars the best
work for you. Even though we're believers that you should
try everything and smoke absolutely everything.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
That you can.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
The Belgian blue right here from crowned heads? My are
you able to get anything off of the cigar? So
here's the problem. I'm going to redo this. You know,
I'm gonna have to redo it right here because my
nose is just my nose is just stuffed it is,
so right now, what I get is cigar.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Ah, Let's play America's second favorite game.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Let's watch Tony retro hail.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Honestly, if I could retro haal, everything that is clogging
my sinus, says would pour right out. It'd be like
the River Thames right here in the studio, by the way, who.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Had River Thames on their big no card free drink smell?
Huh ha, Oh god, there's nothing. There's nothing more crappy
than the basic cold.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, because it's not enough to complain about, but it's
just enough to ruin everything.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And then on top of it, I mean, anyone who's
listened to you for any length of time can tell
that there's something going on with your voice right now.
You do something really, you do sound a little stuffed up.
So as soon as people get that sense that you
may have a cold, they have to ask you.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And then that's something you want to talk about. Oh
are you are you okay? Do you have a cold?
Are you? Are you under the weather. I don't mind
if they ask, I mind when they say, well, you
know what you gotta do. You know what you gotta do.
Kill a live lobster.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That's gonna get rid of your cold right away.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Everyone's got a plant. Well, you gotta take the zinc. Oh,
you gotta take the zycaeb You know what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You gotta God turned around three times and spit and
then boom, No colds. Right worked for my aunt Sheila. Oh,
Aunt Sheila, no more cold? Got hit by a bus.
But no more cold.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
There it is. I was gonna say she's dead now right.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Ah. So the answer is I don't know. Maybe I
will get something out of this. I hate to waste it,
John ground Heads, I'm not trying to.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But it was on the list.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I knew I wanted to get to it in twenty
twenty five because it got released in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We'll see if I get any flavor. Look at it
this way, John, it's gonna make him feel better. That's
how I and.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
If not, crowds heads, we're gonna do what America does.
We're going to soup. That is a lot of closed
grocery stores. I mean, that's a.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Crazy amount of Oh oh, they're not closing, They're just
closing for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yes, oh gosh, I read that wrong. It's eat drink
smoke of Tony Kats. I thought it was the end
of Days. Wow, you thought it was nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Huh, Tony Kats fingers will eat drink smoke.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The grocery store is closed on Christmas. I have a question.
Sure were they ever open on Christmas?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
The only place I've ever traveled to on Christmas is
a friend's house or a Chinese restaurant.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That is what my people do.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I'm gonna be on vacation for Christmas, already, got the
Chinese food restaurant already reserved.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Done by the way, happy honkah ah to Donna BARKI
thank you so very much.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I appreiate a glorious honkah to one and all.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I listen.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I don't make a habit of going to the grocery
store on Christmas Day, so I can't tell you for
sure if you know this has been something that's common.
I feel like I remember there's a local Midwestern chain
called Meyer thrifty acres here in thrifty acres, myyer thrifty acres?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Is that what it was called? Yes, I didn't know that. Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And I want to say I ran there one Christmas
twenty years ago to get cranberry sauce because you can't
have Christmas dinner without canned cranberry sauce.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think you can. No, you can't. I'm pretty sure
you can.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's actually outlawed in Michigan. You have to have cranberry
sauce Christmas dinner. So I this may be relatively new.
That have all of them closed like this and bye bye.
What I mean by all of them is you look
down this list and all the major chains seem to
be closed, right. Costco has closed all these closed, HGB
is closed, Hive is closed, Kroger, Sam's Clubs, Sprouts, Target,
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Trader Joe's, Walmart, Wegman's, Whole Foods.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't know what a wind Co is, but they're
all closed. So what do you do?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It's Christmas and you realize I'm fresh out of Tarrago.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You don't grow your own that's not in this weather.
You don't have a grow light, a grow room for
your tarragon. Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Can I tell you that? My wife comes to me
and says, you know what we should do? And I said, well,
this is gonna be fascinating. We should we should enclose
the deck. I said, we should do what we should like,
enclose the deck so instead of just four season room,
it's all year round, but we should do it like
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a greenhouse, so it's windows all the way so we
still have the view. And I looked at her and
I said, you are a genius and hot. So now
I'm looking into that. I'm never gonna move. I'm gonna
you have to bury me here. I'm going to die here.
But if I did that, then yes, I would totally
be a guy who grows my own tarragon. We do
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in the spring, summer, fall. We do grow our own basil,
and we grow our own dell mmm part part basil,
Dill Parsley.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's fantastic. I partially confuses me.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I don't understand why people add that to a dish
at all, because it adds.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It adds nothing, It adds crunch.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, then why not just get a handful of Captain
crunch then and throw it on.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Your dish as well. It does. I grow my own
Captain crunch.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
By the way, sometimes it's subtle and sometimes it's textual,
and sometimes really we forget how much we eat with
our eyes and and and especially when you're doing some
of those pasta dishes, and that that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Little that little sprinkle it so.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Can it becomes so pleasing and so uh salivating at
that moment that everything else kind of works with it.
That that's fair.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Sometimes when I walk into the gas station and I
grab myself to dogs, I think to myself, I forgot
my Pocket Parsley to make this hot dog go to
the next level. And I go ahead and eat it anyway,
because you know, why waste food.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But the question I have for you, I.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Just want to go back to Pucket Parsley because I
I smell a winter idea. Somebody, somebody gets shark tank
on the line. We gotta go present.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
By the way, I saw Pocket Parsley open for Rusted
Root in eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It was a fantastic show.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Nice, but going back to the enclosed deck, turning it
into some sort.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Of grow room. What would be a grow room? It
would just it would have that kind of look.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Oh, yeah, because you realize I love this idea the neighbors.
If you have this setup and then all of a
sudden you're you're bringing in uh grow lights and air circulation,
people may may ask questions.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I only hope that they do. I only hope that
they do so. So do you have to get HOA
approval for such a structure? Can we discuss HOA approval
for a moment?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Please? Do you know how much?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
There are two things I love to talk about, social
media outrage and HOA approval.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
When we built the eattering smoke studios here at my home,
we had to get HOA approval.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Understand, we're adding to it. It's very very easy.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
But there was a form and I looked at my
wife and I said, nope. The form said that you
had to get the okay via signature from your neighbors,
and not just the neighbors on each side, anybody who's
behind you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Which there's nobody behind us, and those around you.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So picture your house is in the middle pictured a
grid where you're in the middle like exce's the center square,
and then you've got eight houses around you. People across
the street, Hey need you to sign this and I
just I looked at it and I said, like, like
Peter Griffin done, and I just walked away. I couldn't
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you have to ask your neighbors approvement. I don't have
to ask my neighbors for anything. I barely have.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
To wave, although I do because I'm super friendly as.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Opposed to Oh no, I'm a great waiver to the
neighbors as I pull into the garage and avoid all kinds.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Wave to your new neighbors, Oh, absolutely, have you met them? Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And I have to say the new neighborhood, everyone is
incredibly friendly, and everyone is walking around, they're getting their
exercise and I.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Fit right in.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
But everybody's walking around introducing themselves and that's me. Yeah, exactly, uh,
and that's that's been nice. You know, we're doing some
home improvement projects at the houses. Well we're gonna be
finished the basement, and it just struck me. I've run
across on social media there's this woman who she inherited
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her dad's condo and he was head of the hoa
and the condo board there and he was a hoarder.
And so she's documenting her horder journey as she cleans
out this condo. And one of the things the HOA
does not allow is a dumpster in front of the
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house for any length of time.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And I've had, you know, I did.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
A room edition at my old house and there were
no questions asked about a dumpster. I don't know is
that common. I mean, did you have to get approval
to have a dumpster in your driveway for a temporary project.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
From the now we said, hey, we're doing this, and
they said great, and that was it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I know for dumpster no, I would hope not.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I mean, we'd always dump everything in the neighborhood pond,
right and then make him feel better.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Hoa's are are nuts and the people are serious about
their HOA.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Oh, we got a guy in the neighborhood retiree. He's
passionate about the HOA.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We'll get into it. Eat drinks. Smoking is your cigar?
Bourbon FOODI extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That is Fingers Beloy, the Belgian blue from Crowned Heads.
This is the twenty twenty five dishm the San Andreas
wrapper right there. And the biggest problem with having a
cold and smoking a cigar is that you know you
kind of miss the nuances. I'm kind of missing Fingers
Bloy because fingers it was the one who had the
cold last week and now I have the cold.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
We haven't seen each other in two weeks, but it's
still my fault that he got sick today. It's right
right through the computer.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So for me that that spice still kind of lingers
on the palette. There's a little bit of maybe some
cocoa and some wood, but it has smoked wonderfully. I
haven't had to touch it up. Maybe once I've had
to touch it up. It's got We didn't even talk
about the Handfield's got a nice handfield.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It's stocky, right.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's a very hard box press like mine has a
crease mine could mine.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Could give you a paper cut? Would you say it
looks like it has been martinized.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It it it has uh just the right amount of
crunch ah, Right, it's just happened to be a hard
box press on those But you know, you brought up
the fact that you're sick, uh, and it's it all
seems to be tired. It all seems to be right
in the sinus area. So it's difficult to get any
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cigar notes at all. Yeah, uh it it is and
and I I I'll smoke another one when I when
I'm feeling better, when when this is all gone. So
I'm in the place where it's moving from the nose
to the throat and my voice will be gone tomorrow,
it just will. I know exactly what's gonna happen. I
know exactly how this process works. It stinks to high
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heaven because it's just annoying. Oh and by the way,
I do radio for a living. I mean I do
this and then I do six hours of radio a
day locally in Indianapolis and nationally syndicated. So this is
it's the problem. But it happens every year. It just
it just hits me. And that's all.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
There is to it.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But this is an emergency because you're going away on
vacation and you're going to a place where, uh, there's
the possibility for a lot of cigar smoking.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I don't want to say where. I may have already
said where, but I don't want to say where. But
the answer is, I'll be fine. I will fight through it.
Do you know why, Because I'm a man.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
There it is, But when you're on vacation, and you
feel like this, are you still gonna smoke cigar? Does
it influence your cigar choice when you have uh.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh god, I'll be smoking two dollars cigars all week there.
It is absolutely absolutely And I'll be like, I don't
care if I'm sick. I am not giving up this,
this view, this weather, this anything, I will go through
the motion.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Because people who don't smoke cigars, they don't get how
even if you're not getting the notes that you would
like to get from a cigar, it's just so relaxing.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Oh, there's such as a there is such a joyous
zen to it. I I have.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I do not like to do work what I'm smoking
a cigar because I'm not I'm focused on the work
and I'm not focused on the cigar and I'm not
focused on the moment, and that's not the that's not
the point. That is not the point to it. So
I've started like what I'm like preparing for something and
I've got to write something. The cigar is out of
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the picture. I gotta get done. And that It wasn't
always the way for me, not the slightest, but has
become a.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Huge part of the way. But when you're doing one
of your radio shows during the week. You're smoking cigars,
aren't you. So is it just not this week? Not
this week? But is it just one of your Okay,
I'm having an everyday stick nothing special.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Absolutely. Now that's different because that's like how I do
this show. And it doesn't bother me the slightest. It's
when I'm writing and I have to put it down.
If I'm talking, all right, I could do this and
I'll focused.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I'm engaging all the things.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
If you can't see me, there's a lot of hand
movement here, there's a lot of Wow. He's seen a
lot of movies with Italians, and someone's gonna yell at
me for that.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Someone's gonna yell at me.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
For it's Sebastiard Menecollsco's I can't even pronounce his name
now because of the cold. But that's the impression. You've
never seen that comic.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yes I have. He's the coffee cake guy.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yes, yes, he's the coffee he'd like to be known
as the coffee cake. He doesn't care as long as
you buy a ticket. I don't think he gives a damn.
But the Belgian Blue is what we are smoking A
five and a half by fifty six box Press Fingers malloy.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It is time for news of the Week, Tony.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
The release of Rob Reiner's final film, a concert film
called Spinal Tap at Stonehenge. The final finale has been
delayed following the murder of the filmmaker and his wife, Michelle.
Variety reported that the film's US distributors said that the
project release was originally schedule for twenty twenty six, but
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it will be delayed and it will be determined between
the distributor along with the family when the best time
to release the film will be.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
So, Rob Reiner, his wife Michelle murdered allegedly by their
son in their sleep.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I hope in their sleep, but in their bed. It's
beyond horrifying.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I don't care what you think of Rob Reiner's politics,
and I have many many thoughts. That's not our conversation here,
horrifying story. I don't know why anything has to be
delayed at all.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
The movies. Is the movie done care good to go?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I believe so. But you got to think about promotion
of the film. Who's going to promote it? Other than
of course the guys body and the guys you know
in spinal Tap, but everybody they're going to promote it.
There's gonna be a listen this story. You know, we
moved from the horrible events and the coverage of the
events to the eventual trial. This is going to take
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a while and emotions are obviously going to be raw.
It's got to be difficult to promote a film like
this with with this cloud over everyone's head.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I don't know if it is. Why, why why would
we assume such a thing? I don't I honestly don't
know what you're saying. How the film is done, The
film has to get out, that the the the people
who made the film have to get their money back.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What's the art? Give it here? I'm just telling you you're
not making any sense, though, so I'm being a human beings.
I know you're a robot.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You're wrong, but some of us have a feeling that
is not feelings. This is about releasing a film. The
film's made. Of course, you release it now. If you
want to wait a couple weeks to make sure you've
got the right release, that's fine. I'm not opposed to
such a thing. But the idea that somehow all of
this is such a big decision. I reject that.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, that's not a big It could be that the
person who was involved in the decision is no longer
with us, and there also has to be a procedure
in place to be able to figure out if someone
else can immediately step in and say it's it's okay
to release it.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It could be that too. Again, is the movie done now?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
If the movie wasn't done, if the movie wasn't complete,
if there's still some work to.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Do on it, well then that's a thing I would
agree with you.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But if it's done, I'm not I'm not hurting anybody's legacy.
I'm not insulting anybody. I'm not just saying I understand it.
If you don't understand it, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That's the reason why they call me fingers Hollywood malloy,
and you just don't understand how the inner workings of
Hollywood uh work? Listen, Fingers, dalist Maloya explain something to you.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I I tried, we're making light of this, and we're not.
We're not.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
No, It's it's that what happened to the show must
go on. I'm asking a question the show must go on.
They spent all this money, did all this work, and
now someone's gonna side, well, it's just too painful to release.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
No, it's not too painful to release.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I'm just speculating. Let it go, let people enjoy it.
They want to see it. Don't you want to see it?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes? Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
And I can't believe I haven't seen Spinal Tap two
yet and I was going to run to the theater,
uh to see it. I think it was only in
theaters for a couple of weeks, and you know, I'm
incredibly busy, so I didn't get a chance to see it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So, wait, this isn't this is a different spinal tap.
This is a concert.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Oh okay, So it's like that you know they have
from what I've seen in the trailer they perform a concert.
In the movie, there's concert footage. So maybe they just
did a whole concert for people and they recorded it
and they're gonna say, Okay, here's another here's another spinal
tap film.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I'm just saying that people are going to rally around
it no matter when you put it out though there's
no there's no right time, there's.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
No wrong time. I think it will be highly successful.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely, and hopefully because it's actually good and entertaining.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well spinal tap, how could it not be? That's that's
that is my take. That is what I hope. Horrible
story though, Yeah, absolutely fight Fingers.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I know you have been doing a tremendous amount of
research on how you can live forever.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Ever Ever, I already know, oh you do, because I'm
going to live forever and how you're gonna do it.
I'm gonna learn how to fly. Hi, I feel it
coming together. People will see me and cry. I Irene Kara.
You know you try to have your finger on the
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fame of pop culture and it's just completely Did you
just do.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
A fame reference? Are we gonna get a whold Debbie
Allen speech? Well, fame costs and right here is where
you pay in sweat?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Mess with me? Did I say hello?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
See trick smoke? I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite
averageur drinker. Fingers molloy. Uh, there's a story from the
place for Fingers. Foy gets all his Live Forever news
veg outmag dot com.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Listen, if you're gonna live forever, you're gonna wanna vedge
out longevity.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Researchers say people who live past ninety all share these
eight surprising daily habits.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Habit number one waking up. All right, you wanna go
through this, You wanna go through this list?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
What do the people who live to the age of
ninety now living to the age of ninety?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Here's the only question. Are they aware? Wow? That's dark? Ooh,
there's different between being alive and living. That's true.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well, I'm working for the purposes of this conversation, will
assume that they are aware. Number one on the list
they stay connected to people decades younger. And I'll give
you a good example. Say you're the former head coach
of the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh jijus, Oh, poor Jordan.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
How did she need to deserve this? Did you see folk?
There was a story the other day.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I've heard her cheerleading competition and grandpa was.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
There holding hands. Okay, there's a lot a man will
do for a woman. Seventy five year old.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Is that young? She's twenty four or something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, he's sitting in the stands dying inside. Right, if
we're being honest, he's dying inside. But while he's doing that,
because he's staying connected to people decades younger and with her.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
He's really connected right the fact that he coaches college
at UNC.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
By the way, I see my coach at seventy five
with the twenty four year old Toddy sitting in the
stands watching her cheerleading competition. I immediately hit the transfer portal.
I couldn't hit the transfer portal hard enough. Really, that
is not a guy focused unwinning. He's winning something else.
But I need to win football games.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I'm thinking I want to be just like that guy
when I grow up fifty years from now.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Great.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
First step, fine Tom Brady, second step, question mark, third
step profit?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Good lord? What else?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Thank connect with people younger than you, young at heart,
young mind.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I get all that. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So Number two they walk a lot. They walk. You
gotta keep moving, right, I know. That's the fitness regimen
that I have. I walk at least twenty two miles
a day. Oh yeah, that's how I stay looking thirty
three years old.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You look great, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Number three on the list they eat the same foods repeatedly.
And I have to tell you, I have noticed this
about Fingers Moy senior. For those who are just tuning
in fingers Moly Senior, uh moved in if you haven't
been following to my house. He's eighty seven years old.
He likes to eat the same things over and over again.
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He starts the day two eggs, Sonny, side up, three
links of sausage, nice, and two pieces of sour dough bread.
Doesn't get sick of it? You would think after it,
wouldn't you get sick of having the same breakfast over
and over again?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It depends on the breakfast.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
How about this breakfast? Two eggs Sonny, sign up, three
links of sausage and some sour dough toast.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So is the toast buttered? Yes? Oh yeah, sounds delicious.
I could eat that. I know.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He doesn't care that I share this information. He puts
half a stick of butter on his bread. Good for him,
and goes through a jar of mayonnaise a week wait,
eighty seven. Yes, it's crazy. You hear all the things
you're not supposed to do, and it's like it's raining cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It's like the great line from George Burns.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He's on with Johnny Carson, and Johnny Carson ass how
many cigars do you smoke? Because it smokes ten cigars
a day, and Johnny says, what does your doctor think
of it? Before you can finish, George Burns goes, my
doctor is dead. That's that's buy is so good. It's
delivered so perfectly. George knew where this was going before
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it happened. What he was gonna say, it was glorious.
Good on fingers, mulo, I see in your fine work
that he's doing.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So that's what he has for breakfast. What does he
have for lunch?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
A sandwich okay, yeah, and low sodium bread or lo
sodium ham excuse me, okay. And then for dinner whatever
we make for dinner. But a lot of times he
goes ahead and makes his own dinner because dinner's at
four o'clock. Oh, because that's that's I don't know what
it is about the elderly and they have to eat
dinner before five. But that's a thing and it's real,
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and he does that.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So he'll have whatever you're making, like like a steak.
We don't usually listen.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
We're just a regular meat and potatoes, blue collar family.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Tony.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I know it, well, meat and potatoes, roast, maybe chicken.
I know, you know it's raining steak here all the
time at the cat's household. But you know, steak is
a is a is a treat at our house.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
So go go more on the list. You did that,
what else do you go?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
They maintain a daily routine without being rigid. So they
wake up around the same time, they eat roughly at
the same hours, have activities they do regularly. But if
something disrupts that routine, they adapt without stress.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, that hard.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I'm not buying that for a second. They do not
adapt without stress. Somebody has stress. It might not be them,
but somebody has definite stress. I have not, and you
know you have, you know, elderly parents, parents, parent Uh,
I don't feel like I don't know if this is
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the way it is for you, throwing curveballs in the schedule,
it's the schedule has to be changed days in advance.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
My mother is pretty easy going. She's pretty easy flowing
in the in the stuff. She's fine with it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Whatever, that's cool, that's great, right, And so there there's
a real positive to that. And there are times where
I wish she was a little bor No no, no,
I've got my thing.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I got a thing. No, no, no, I'm done. I'm going
to this. I'm gonna go see that person.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'm gonna do that thing. I'm busy. No no, make
that another day. I'm too busy for that. No no, no, no,
I would I would actually enjoy that. I would like
that for her. Right, It's it's like your kids.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Like I could say that I've got excellent kids and
they don't get in trouble. And also I'd like it
if they got into a little bit of trouble.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Right, you want them to have, uh these some experiences
to be like, oh my gosh, that was nuts, and
you a little bit of Now I'm doing this, let
other people figure it out. Let other people, Uh, you know,
change their schedules for me. I don't have to change
my schedule for them. Adaptivity, no I want. I'm not
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going to adapt. I'm going to do exactly what I'm doing.
Change today.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That was my point. They stay involved in their community.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Everyone that this person has known lived well past their nineties, uh,
was embedded in their local community. They knew their neighbors.
This was one thing that my father in his neighborhood,
all the neighbors talked and they were all over seventy
and it's so foreign to him that when he moved
(35:51):
down here, nobody talks. And I think that you you
said that when you moved to Indiana you felt the
same way right there there. I don't know what it
is about Indiana. And by the way, not complaining that
you know people aren't is outgoing and friendly and you know,
maybe you'll get a high and that's fine by me.
(36:13):
But on to sit and talk for an hour with
your neighbor across the picket fence. That that doesn't happen
very often.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
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Speaker 1 (36:22):
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interesting list. It's about staying focused, staying active, and staying
you know, recognizing that.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
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