October 11, 2025 • 36 mins
What happens when you pair a miniature cigar with airplane-sized tequila? Tony Katz and Fingers Malloy take listeners on a delightful journey into the world of small-format indulgences. This episode offers a refreshingly honest take on Don Julio Blanco tequila and the El Baton Cameroon Firecracker cigar, while delving into topics ranging from proper grill storage to the economics of modern dating.
The duo discovers they've exhausted Tony's bourbon collection and announces plans for a bourbon shopping spree. Meanwhile, Fingers finally celebrates selling his house after what seemed like "nine hundred years." Their banter creates the perfect backdrop for exploring these compact but flavorful offerings.
Key Takeaways:
Don Julio Blanco tequila introduction - The hosts discuss how tequila consumption has evolved from shots to sipping
Tasting notes reveal citrus, white pepper, and tropical fruit flavors in the Blanco
The great grill debate: Should you store your grill in the garage? Tony and Fingers nearly come to blows
El Baton Cameroon Firecracker cigar review - A small but tobacco-forward smoke that lasts longer than expected
Dating economics: Why young singles are giving up on dating due to costs
The robot revolution: Door Dash's autonomous delivery bots and what they mean for society
Financial literacy crisis: The importance of teaching kids economic basics
Whether you're a cigar aficionado looking for a quick smoke, a tequila enthusiast, or enjoy lively debate about life's pleasures, this episode delivers entertainment and insights in equal measure. Tune in to hear why sometimes the smallest offerings pack the biggest punch!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I said, this was an opportunity for us to go small.
Fingers More found the el buttone cameroon wrapper, the firecracker
addition three and a half by fifty cigar. Well, what
could I pair with this? How about a tequila bottle
that's meant.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
For an airplane? Wow, we're going on a trip to
drink smoke.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker,
Fingers Moloy. The truth is, and I don't even know
how to say this, in the entire collection, we've tried
every bourbon I have. Really, it's time for me to
go shopping.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, I mean, if there's one thing that is enjoyable
when it comes to having to do a shopping trip,
it's a bourbon shopping trip.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, so we're gonna have to go, and I'm going
to give us a budget and we are going to
buy the bourbon for.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
The next three months.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So, if you've got a bourbon you want us to try,
let us know Fingers at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com or
comment right there at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You tell us and we will make that happen.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Also, I don't know if the cigars that we were
giving away, ever went out. I have to double check
that because I owe some people some cigars and I
gotta get there.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You know what's funny is over the commercial break, I
just thought of that. I thought because I was opening
up the Instagram and thought to myself, ooh, I wonder
if those cigars that's done?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right? That's that's of this week Project Fantastic. We
buy bourbon, we send out free cigars. That's the kind
of people we are.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But this is a.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Tequila and this is the Don Julio Blanco at tequila
right here fingers. I had it, and I said, let's
drink this, because how can you go wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I thought you said I had it, meaning you had
some of it earlier.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh no, no, no earlier. I felt like having it,
but I did not have it. You know, we talk
about the Danejo's, we talk about the reposados, things that
are a little more full and a little more rich.
This is this is your basic, This is your shot tequila.
This is your down and dirty margarita tequila. But Canada
(02:16):
hold up on its own as just a basic sipper.
More and more tequila going on in America. People utilizing
it as a sipping kind of of drink.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And we have had some really good tequilas well.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We of course, as you know, just over the past
month or so, I've done some good RUMs.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I don't know what to think of this. I don't
even know where I got this bottle. It's a little
mini bottle, a little mini bottle.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I do not know where this came from. I think
this came as part of a gift. That's someone.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh, I thought you were going to say Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
They don't till they serve the Don Julio in the
Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Let me check. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, in
order to.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Get Don Julio, I'm assuming you have to fly TWA
or brown if maybe pan Am right, maybe America West
back in the nineties, America West Air tran Bravisimo, Well done,
well played.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Haven't brought that one up in a while. Do you
like tequila in general? No, No, you're not a fan.
And uh it is basically because of college. And that
wasn't a high end tequila I was drinking.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
No, it was.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And then on top of it, it was part of
at least on a couple of occasions, the worst possible
shot you could ever buy someone. Yeah, And I think
that's just it.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
We were so wrongly introduced to tequila that we have
these ridiculous flashback kind of moments of what tequila did
to some of you. And when I say some of you,
I mean all of you. Any drink smoke nation.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Have you ever had a prairie fires? Is that what
one of Tabasco yes tequila and Tabasco sauce?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I love me.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's exactly something you would buy your twenty one year
old friend on his birthday because you don't like him.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, A prairie fire is what you drink when you
want to see it on the back of a toilet bowl.
You're like, I wonder what that's going to look like,
and then it splashes back and gets you in the eye.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And that's a that's that's a disease you have a
hard time explaining to your significant other. Wow, all right,
I'm I'm the only person who knows that to be true.
And it never happened to me. I actually I had
one before we got on the air here and it
blew out one of mike lenses.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
First things first, this don Julio blanco. There's some nose here,
But I'm telling you that's that is a lovely citrus
right there, that that you first at first.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Get that tequila.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It kind of hit almost like a tequila ethanol kind
of things like college.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I I appreciate people who like a fine tequila has
never been in my wheelhouse. Uh, But I'm always willing
to try new things.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I find myself more attracted to the two things that
have a little more just a touch more age and
a touch more depth to them. And certainly I'm not
the blancos. The host work with me. I find myself
more attracted to the RUMs. I find that I'm having
this weird kind of fascination with gin lately, which it's
(05:21):
so weird because I'm trying Gin is so much on
the nose because of the juniper, and I'm trying to
see if I can catch different things out of the
nose and therefore can I really pick that out in
the flavor, because.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Gins as a taste is so.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Simple right there, there's so much more happening on the nose,
So I'm wondering if I could pick things out of
the nose to really match with a pal.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But you're not smoking a cigar with the gin.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Are you No? No, no, just trying.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, and again, I'm not really a drinker of anything.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Which is one of the weirdest things that people find
out about at least me, is that I leave it
all behind. I want to get an idea of what's happening.
I don't need the rest I leave behind. You've seen
it happens, glasses and glasses of everything.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, same, it's not the same. Fingers, Billoy, you you
ready for this? Sorry for this all day? He is
doing the Don Julio Blanco doing what's.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Known as the Kentucky chew, and we do that with
Berman moving around the palate. Really get an idea of
those flavors. I'm a believer in the two SIPs theory.
The first zip taste bud is a second sip. Really,
to get an idea of what those flavors are. Fingers,
you're you're right there with the Don Julio Blanco. What
say you?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I've heard it described as white pepper before. Would agree
with that. Really. Also, there is a tropical fruit to it.
It reminds me of those tropical fruit medley cups that
you would get your kids for their lunch a little
bit of that as well. It's very nice. You would
never know that. What's the proof on this is it?
(06:58):
I believe this is eighty eighty proof. I mean a
hint of alcohol. There is a nice little bit of
warmth on the finish that reminds you, Okay, there's there's
some alcohol here, but there's no sting and there's no
burning in the chest, nothing that we would expect from
some of the bourbon that we.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So the Don Julia Blanco is one hundred percent blue
ebro gave, made in Mexico, eighty proof, so forty percent
alcohol by volume, and the nose is very citrus right,
really aggressively, So a lot of lemon lime going on there.
But let us go in to you.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing well,
we like to call he's not even really doing the
sag on us wish. What do you think that's.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Easier than I thought it would be. Yeah, there's a
little bit of sting on the lip there, but it's
just it's not syrapy, No, it's it's just a sweet drink.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Maybe there is a slow.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Low heat middle chest. Hold on, Oh, good for you.
Go in for more. Uh, do you get any that
pepper like or you think that? I think yeah, But
I don't know if I call that a pepper. Maybe
if I was drinking it outside of the cigar. Maybe No,
(08:24):
I don't feel real pepper kind of hit there. The
question is, is the Don Julio in your liquor cabinet,
Fingers maloy, with all the other things that are in
your liquor cabinet, or is it just deep in the
recesses of your history?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Find out?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Now, I know, Fingers, you have been waiting on getting
a Blackstone, waiting till you're finally completely moved in, which
has taken nine hundred years.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But the house finally sold last week.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yes, the the the original house. It's all done. Yes,
everything is out. You have the money. Yes, you you've
rolled around in it like your Scrooge McDuck.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's already gone. Oh Roulett wheel.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Nice, he didn't gamble, he just bought a really big
Roulette wheel.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
There it is.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
See drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite
amateur drinker. Fingers molloy, Uh, mazzletub. By the way, I'm
glad that that part is done. You have no idea
iNFiNiT it right. It feels so good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Now I just have seven thousand boxes in my house,
so you're still not unpacked. Oh no, I don't even understand. No,
I don't understand. Okay, you realize I just had eye surgery. Yeah,
we have family members who have health issues. We're traveling
back and forth up to Michigan for that, and then
(09:43):
I work ninety seven hours a week. So, if I'm
hearing you right, a lot of excuses. Did you just
call me an excuse factory?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm I'm just saying, perhaps an excuse merchant, fair enough,
but I'm say purveyor of excuses.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
But also in my defense, I really like.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So you have not yet gotten yourself a flattop, a griddle,
blackstone for the backyard.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
No, I have not. I need that and I need
another grill. Oh that's definitely happened. I'm doing a two for.
I think that's happening. So when you say two for,
you mean like a two in one kind of combo.
You know, I'm getting a grill and a griddle.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So you came across the story over there at j
dot com stands for New Jersey how's your mota?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Walmart has so many Blackstone griddles on sale for cheap
prices and an end of summer deal, and it has
a list of all of these Blackstones.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And the question before.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Us is is this a good deal?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Are these good deals?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So, for example, they've got the Blackstone iron forged four
burner liquid propane outdoor griddle for five ninety one instead
of six thirty eight. That doesn't seem like much of
a deal.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No, it doesn't. But you get down further on the
list and there are better deals. But my question for
the griddle people and do you consider yourself a griddle aficionado?
So no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, I do not.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I don't know how many how many burners to I need?
Do I need three burners?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
See, I hope that one's on sale.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean how many burners is? How is? How much
space do you need? What are you really going to
do with it? The problem, the reason I have not
bought one yet, and I would buy one just to
have one, is that I have no idea what my
regular use is going to be of it. So if
I take a look at the grill that I have,
I have a Weber genesis a propane. I've got the
(11:39):
flat top in there. I can throw it in there
and boom. I could be saute and peppers and onions
for my fajitas or whatever it is that I thought
I was gonna do and be like, Okay, that was fun,
and then never do it again. Right, So that's the issue.
It's true, that's exactly. I have a pizza oven. I
have a pizza oven that I bought for my grill.
I had to have it. I've used it once. What
(12:00):
are pizza oven for the grill? You mean, just like the.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Stone, it's a stone, but it also it's the full ovens,
so you've got the top there that will melt the
cheese instead of just putting on a stone. You know how,
sometimes it's a little awkward to cook because there's too much.
I've never done it. It turned out great, and then
I haven't used it since.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So, I mean, they sell those pizza ovens and I
could write how much stuff do I need?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And then you go to put stuff away in the winters.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I want to be able to put stuff under a
cover and just leave it be. That's what I'm trying
to do. So I haven't gotten one yet, but how
big you need it? I don't know what do you
want to do? Is this really about smash burgers or
is this about pancakes?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Is this about what is this about? So it's about
smash burgers, It's about breakfast, and it's not just pancakes.
It's about doing the eggs next to the bacon, next
to the potatoes, doing the whole thing all at once,
instead of different frying pans like a sucker, like a savage,
to have that whole riddle space there to do all
of that at the same time. It's about doing fried rice,
(13:04):
It's about doing Philly cheese steaks. You're never gonna do these.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Look at me, I'm fat I'm gonna do all of
them tomorrow if I buy one.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You are so full of crap dar You're never gonna
I'm telling you, you're not gonna do it. This is ridiculous.
You're gonna do it once and then you're never gonna
do it again. Let me tell you how I know you.
There's no shot. Don't look at me like I've somehow
insulted you.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You're never gonna do this stuff. I dare you to
do it. I dare you to do it. You have
often becalled been called our generations Tony Robbins for that reason.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Right there, I will do all of that. Oh yeah, yes,
prove it. Well. Which one of these deals am I
going to take advantage of? Apparently I need a seventeen
burner Blackstone to do all of this. Okay, you do
enjoy smash Burger's right?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeh sure?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Now do you like to have the onions cooking like
smashed in with the patty or do you like I'm
on the side and on top. I think they're fine
on top.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
This one from Walmart is the Blackstone Patio Series two
burner twenty eight inch griddle with air.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Fryer, Oh, dear lord, with the.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Air fryer, which is the biggest load of malarkey the
world has ever seen. And you can get this for
six hundred ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And here is the Blackstone four burner thirty six inch
cooking station with the hardcover for three hundred.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And forty four dollars. That's all you need, right, I
gotta assume that's all you need. I mean, my goodness.
You know we joke about the air fryer. You joke.
I take it seriously, but I don't know if I
want my air fryer in the garage.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
In the garage. You wait, stop the accident in the garage. Yeh.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I like to have my grill and my whatever I
use to cook in the garage. Wheel it out in
the driveway, wheel it back in. That's how my Weber
Genesis lasted thirty years without a lick of rust on it.
Putting it out with a cover. That sounds wonderful in theory.
And the next thing you know, you're cooking in a
rust bucket.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You take it out every time. Every time.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, yeah, it has wheels. You just wheel it out,
you cook, you wheel it back in.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
This is gonna be our first actual fight.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What the hell is wrong with you? What's wrong with you?
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I get?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Listen, I get Some people like to buy a grill
every two years. Others of us like to keep our grill.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You keep it in the garage, yes, every day, Yes,
nights too.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I end on the weekends. Now, you're just talking crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That is insane? Do you leave your grill out year
round in the snow with a cover on it. Yeah, wow, Yeah,
you're living on the edge of my friend.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I don't know how that's living on the edge.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I have a really good cover. It covers it and everything.
You know what else covers it? Rust in about two years.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Go look, go look at my trigger, which I think
I'm on four years now.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Didn't you have to have a professional come clean? I
had no arm surgery, I can tell you. In my
garage mice in the UH. Never have had a rodent
in my grills as far as I know. You know
what worth it in and out of the garage. Every
time this wheels? What is wrong with you? You act
(16:41):
like I'm I need to sure but out but get
it out into the driveway. I bet I'm not the
all eat, drink smoke nation who keeps their grill in
the garage, takes it out and then puts it back
in when you're done.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Honestly, I don't know if I'm gonna let you listen
to the show anymore if you do that that if
you if you stored it in the garage for the winter,
I could see it in the summer, spring to fall.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yes, I got my TV's out there. I can watch
TV grill listen to my high Fi.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Your high fill in the garage, the real tape player.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Absolutely think up the PATROLA.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's how I listened to Day Last Soul A ridiculous
nice pole, Eat drink smoke.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It is your cigar Bourbon food Extravaganz.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That is fingers from when I find it all.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
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Speaker 2 (17:56):
That age aging.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
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beef is just going to create such good flavor. You
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dollars off your first order. We are drinking the Don
Julio Blanco tequila right here because I had I had
(18:40):
a mini bottle. I had a mini bottle that you
kind of see like in an aeroplane, an airplane size bottle.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There we went minis and the albaton.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We are smoking with the cameraon wrapper from the good
people at JC Newman. This is the Firecracker, which is
a style that comes from United Cigars and three and
a half inch cigar goes quick. Kid.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I'm surprised it has last this as long as it has.
I mean, we're in the second hour of the show,
and granted we talk a lot and we put our
sticks down.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You don't feel that you, because of the size, have
slowed down a little bit on it.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
There's some of that, yeah, but it has lasted longer
than I thought. Ten dollars a stick. I'm enjoying it.
I'll look for it on sale. Yeah, but ten dollars
it's a little steep for me.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So the only way to explain the ten dollars thing
is if you're only somebody who has forty five minutes
I see it. Yeah, do quality and Cameroon. It's a
great flavor and all the way throughout. Right now, I
would say, I'm just in a very tobacco forward kind
of feel with this cigar right here.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
But it might work for you at ten bucks.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It might be exactly what it is you're looking for
to your lifestyle, to your work life, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I will say this for a lot of people, if
they were going to go out, I have no problem
spending ten dollars on an adult beverage that would last
your half hours. So you know, what's the difference. You're
getting a different kind of enjoyment in a half an hour.
Ten dollars may not be bad after all.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I think it's I think it's a very very nice
cigar and flavor wise, it's just not my size. That's
that's all there is to it. That's that's the only
story that that I have.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Tequila is lovely.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The question Fingers Maloy, is the tequila we forgot to
talk about price. Is it in your liquor cabinet? I mean,
this is a seven fifty. We're talking about a regular
sized bottle here, not the mini.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Don Julio Blanco, What you're gonna You just stepped over
all my joke that I was. You're gonna say the
price I was made for that little mini bottle. Oh
my god, sorry, that's okay. Forty dollars um me either.
If you like tequila and it's your thing, I could
totally see it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I could see it.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
If you wanted something different at your line you want
to pour, I would I would try it. It's just
it's not my drink, so forty dollars I would probably pass.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
The one thing I would say is if you're doing Margarita's,
there's a real nice lemon lime hit going on, right.
It isn't the richness and the smoothness I would want
in a sipping tequila. But if I'm looking for something
that's going to now we turned into a frozen margaritas
or margarita's and by the picture, sure you're you're stepping
(21:28):
it up from whatever the well is and it's it's got.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It just has a good brightness.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right, it does have that agave taste, it does have
that traditional tequila kind of taste, but it does have
that nice bit of lemona. It's got some good fragrance
to it as well. And so for that, sure, if
it's in my liquor cabinet for something that I'm going
to do and have a sip of as you finish yours. Now,
it's that. It's just it's again, that's not the tequila
I'm going for. But for purpose, sure, sure, because it's
(21:57):
a nice little step up, and I think there's some
value that for the fragrance and for some of these
flavors which are nice.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, I finished mine. It's it's but it's it's one
of those things where I would be buying that bottle
to have it once every six months, and I just
to me, I would rather buy a bottle of bourbon
at that time.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I wouldn't even be doing that.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It would be for purpose, for purpose, Sure, it's time
Fingers Meloy. For News of the week, Tony The New
York Post has this story Young singles are giving up
on dating for this startling reason dune dun dum So.
There was a study done over at datingnews dot Com,
which is where I get all of my dating news.
(22:41):
It's a one stop shop for dating news. Forty three
percent of young US singles are going on fewer dates,
thirty seven percent are cutting back on dating in general,
and the reason why for a third of those people,
it's because of the economy. It's too expensive to date.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, so there's a problem with this story from the beginning,
and maybe your article there tells the story. What kind
of dates are they going on?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, they're using gen Z as an example.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, there is the problem. But gen Z has a
problem with this, and I'll get into that, but talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, many of them are drowning in debt, so it's
understandable that they do not want to date during this
time when a round of drinks and a few appetizers
can easily cost well over one hundred dollars, especially in
New York City.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well, first things first, we're not talking about New York City.
Life is not New York City. Cut it out with
the freaking New York City nonsense. Godled the book bull crap.
That's number one.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, it's only eighty dollars in Central Indiana.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
So as we come to you from Indianapolis, Indiana. Here's
the problem that I'm hearing about that on the dating
scene high school college, there is an expectation that seems
to be in play of we have to go to
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this kind of place and it has to be this
kind of meal, in this kind of and my kids
are like, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'm absolutely not doing that.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
If I have to prove myself in that kind of
way for someone, I'm just getting to know.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And so the problem is that in gen z, which
I have a lot of faith in for a lot
of reasons.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The expectation is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And whoever filled their head with this expectation is a
terrible parent. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
There's a lot of I know my worth and I'm
worth more than a coffee date. You hear that a lot.
But what I don't understand is say you take your
first date out to some fancy dinner at a restaurant,
but you know seven minutes in that you never want
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to see this person again. Wouldn't you rather? Even on
the other end, unless you're just totally desperate for some
expensive dinner, want to bail as soon as possible. That's
what's so great about a coffee date is that you
can sit back, have your cup of Joe, and say
six minutes and you know what, Clearly we are not
meant to have a second date. I'm bailing, yes, and.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think that'd be better for everybody. But what's weird
is that we see so much of hookup culture. You
see so much of the online dating stuff and the hey,
let's just you know, make this happen kind of stuff.
They'll do that, but for the date they expect all
of the of the trappings. The I'm not opposed to
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the trappings, ladies, and I am pro trappings. It's just
that it doesn't It shouldn't come on date one. It
has to come over time. And and I don't think
there's anything wrong with that. I don't think there's anything
wrong with with setting the expectations of things growing from that.
But if your focus is how much will they spend
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on me, and ladies, I'm talking to you, it's the
wrong focus. Now that's different. Then he won't spend anything
on me. That's a very different thing. And you're supposed
to not be with that guy. How about this for
the other side.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The study also revealed that nearly one in four said
they would rush their relationship timeline and move in together
so they could split the costs of living expenses.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Talking about relationships, are we talking about roommates? Which what
are we doing here? Because if we're talking about roommates,
go right ahead. But that's not relationships.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well some people are who are married or just roommates.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, that's just awful. That's that's no, I'm not even
looking at you.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That's just that is us awful.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
We should talk about that. So I think the idea
of these little robots that do the delivery this, this
is the sign of the end of days, right, Yes,
this is living in wally. We are all doomed. Yes,
(27:27):
Shalla la la t drink smoke nicely done. I'm Tony Katz.
That is fingers while I find it all at EA
Drinks Smoke show dot com door Dash customers in Phoenix,
if you get the door Dash, it's gonna be delivered
most probably by something called a dot. It is an
autonomous delivery bot named Dot, the first such robot with
(27:50):
the ability to maneuver with the bike lanes and on
roads and sidewalks, built expressly for local commerce. The only
thing worse than this idea is the idea of drone
delivery of your stuff, which means people are going to
get decapitated that drone is going to come in hot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I was visiting my daughter, she goes to college, and
I was on her campus and it wasn't a door
dash bot, but the campus, their food service through their cafeterias,
has one of these robots that goes around campus. And
I was driving down the road with her and I said,
what the hell is that right? And she said, yeah,
(28:29):
it's one of these robots that delivers food to your dorm.
And it creeps me the hell out.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It is if you're asking, or if you're saying, well
tony with well fingers, the technology is coming and you
got to stop acting like ridiculous old people and get
used to it. I would say to you that you're
the problem, the enemy of all humanity. There is no
way that these things don't end up in a local
(28:56):
retention pond and we find out.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Whether or not your robot can float or is it
a witch.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's that's what's gonna happen. There's not a question. This
is this is we are kidding ourselves. This is NFTs
all over again.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Here's my problem. I have an internal struggle really about
these things. On one hand, right, it helps me avoid
all human contact, makes fingers molloy very half it does.
So the idea of some sort of RoboCop showing up,
some sort of android, some sort of cart with a
(29:35):
iPad on it, delivering me my food that appeals to me.
But let's be honest, at one point, they're going to
rule us all robot Yes, they're going to take over society.
They're going to run things right, and then we will
be delivering some sort of fake food to them. So
here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
If I may, The robot is going to come to
your house delivering your What did you get delivered? What
do you get delivered from the robot?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
What order? I didn't order? Anything?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Would?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
What would I order? A Philly cheese steak?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Philly cheese steak is going to come to your door
and and while it's it's it's coming up to your door,
the robot is taking pictures of everything of your house,
of you, of the surroundings, and then it's going to
sell that data to all these companies that are in
your market. Hey, I see your hedges are looking a
little rough. Here's some here's some hedge trimmers, and oh hey,
(30:27):
looks like you need some paint. Here's a whole painting deal.
And that's what this is, them accumulating data on me
and then selling it to others who are going to
abuse me with all of their offers.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And I didn't get anything out of the deal. You
got a cheese steak. No, no, no, I.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Ordered a cheese steak. I didn't give up my soul
to get said cheese steak.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You got the cheese steak without having to interact with anyone.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Whiz is not that much of a high ticket item
in my view, in my lifestyle. So this is part
of the problem. And the other problem is it's it's
there's no value. You're not better off because the robot
delivered it.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Are we better up with AI?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
We can be there. There are a lot of things
that are worthwhile in the world of AI. But if
we're talking about condensing all of human knowledge into something
you look up as opposed to something you learn or
engage with, we've got ourselves a real fundamental issue with
how as a society we move forward.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Can we branch off for a moment, sure, and it
kind of revisit the story we talked about in the
last segment regarding how dating has become ridiculously expensive for something.
And while I have empathy for that, and at the
same time, I hear stories of I've got a daughter
who's in high school and she has friends who will
(31:52):
door dash Starbucks before they go to school. Nope, And
it's like, if we had that much kind of a parent thing,
if we have that much money where high school students
can DoorDash a cup of coffee to the house. And
I know not everyone has the means to do so,
but it does feel like while the economic the times
(32:16):
are somewhat tough, was as inflation has ravaged the dollar.
Having said that, we spend a lot of money on
useless crap.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I swear to you right now if if your daughter
door dash is a coffee, I'm gonna have words with her.
And I believe the most I've ever said to your
child is hey, I think that's the grand total. I
actually think that your kids are afraid of me. I
(32:47):
don't think I've ever said this to you before. I
think your kids are very scared of me.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You think so, oh, Yeah, they're not scared of anything.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Oh they're terrified.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Actually, they're not even scared of the eventual robot takeover
that will happen sooner. Rather just you know, my children
aren't afraid of you.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
It's that when I first started talking about you, Fingers Maloy,
Fingers Maloy, they thought I was talking too fast, and
they thought you were Fingers my lawyer. And to this day,
some fifteen plus years later, you are known as Fingers
my lawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I've been called worse, but you have to admit that
when you hear things like that. Parenting has gone to
hell in a hambas But we apparently there's still a
lot of discretionary income out there if you can spend that,
and then on top of that, you've got all the
subscription to all the streaming services and all the other stuff.
(33:38):
People are very comfortable saying I don't have the money
for certain things, but yet I door dash seventy five
percent of my meals.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Take that money and put it into a fund that's
tied to the Dow Jones and just let it grow
and see where you are in thirty five years. Take
that money that you spend in a month, and then
take off twenty percent to buy your own damn coffee
and make sandwiches. Put the rest into the fund and
(34:10):
just start letting it grow. Can we teach some basic
economic theory? For the love of God, if you let
your kids DoorDash Starbucks and you've watched it happen and
you don't stop that, you're a garbage parent.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
You're saying it should be duncan.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, clearly that's not the point. Oh my god, I'm
I'm mortified.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
But it is. When we talked about this before on
the show. It is amazing how kids can go through
K through twelve education and not have any idea on
how they should be coming up with a budget investing
for the student.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
There are some states and school districts that are working
on this, and I think that there should be whole
classes on stock X and there should be classes about
how you do this. We need to bring homec back
into the world, not only make your own food. How
to balance a checkbook? What does it mean you got
to learn a signature so you can sign a check,
to the extent that you might even still write a check.
These things matter so much more, so much more than
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putting on airs and putting on appearances, make your own coffee,
make your own lunch.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
This isn't just true of the fifteen year old. This
is true of the twenty five year old. My oldest
daughter is a college senior, and the story she would
tell me about living in the dorm the first two
years and kids living in the dorm not even being
able to do their own laundry, don't have any idea
how to load the laundry into the washing machine, how
much soap to put in, completely clueless. It's like, you're
(35:43):
a college student. You didn't do any laundry at home?
Did I?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Or did I not say terrible parenting? Yes, and I
mean it. That's terrible parenting. And I might be insulting
some people and need drink smoked Nation right now.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I'm not trying to insult you.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Fix it. Stop doing that. We are not doing ourselves
any favors or kids any favors.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
This goes into a whole conversation which we were gonna
do the story.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
We'll have to do it next week, about the idea
of the psychology of these parents who want to be
their kid's friend. You're not a friend, You're the parent.
It's a job. Do the job. You could still enjoy them.
It's easier to be their friend, though, but it's not
meant to be easy. If you want it to be easy,
that's that's just weird.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You become an uncle, right, that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Drinking of the Don Julio Blanco tequila forty dollars a bottle.
If you're making a picture of Margarita's, sure, go right ahead.
And the Elbaton cameroon wrapp or firecracker size three and.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
A half by fifty. Nice smoke, It was nice. See
drink smoke
I said, this was an opportunity for us to go small.
Fingers More found the el buttone cameroon wrapper, the firecracker
addition three and a half by fifty cigar. Well, what
could I pair with this? How about a tequila bottle
that's meant.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
For an airplane? Wow, we're going on a trip to
drink smoke.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker,
Fingers Moloy. The truth is, and I don't even know
how to say this, in the entire collection, we've tried
every bourbon I have. Really, it's time for me to
go shopping.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, I mean, if there's one thing that is enjoyable
when it comes to having to do a shopping trip,
it's a bourbon shopping trip.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, so we're gonna have to go, and I'm going
to give us a budget and we are going to
buy the bourbon for.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
The next three months.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So, if you've got a bourbon you want us to try,
let us know Fingers at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com or
comment right there at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You tell us and we will make that happen.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Also, I don't know if the cigars that we were
giving away, ever went out. I have to double check
that because I owe some people some cigars and I
gotta get there.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You know what's funny is over the commercial break, I
just thought of that. I thought because I was opening
up the Instagram and thought to myself, ooh, I wonder
if those cigars that's done?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right? That's that's of this week Project Fantastic. We
buy bourbon, we send out free cigars. That's the kind
of people we are.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But this is a.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Tequila and this is the Don Julio Blanco at tequila
right here fingers. I had it, and I said, let's
drink this, because how can you go wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I thought you said I had it, meaning you had
some of it earlier.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh no, no, no earlier. I felt like having it,
but I did not have it. You know, we talk
about the Danejo's, we talk about the reposados, things that
are a little more full and a little more rich.
This is this is your basic, This is your shot tequila.
This is your down and dirty margarita tequila. But Canada
(02:16):
hold up on its own as just a basic sipper.
More and more tequila going on in America. People utilizing
it as a sipping kind of of drink.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And we have had some really good tequilas well.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We of course, as you know, just over the past
month or so, I've done some good RUMs.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I don't know what to think of this. I don't
even know where I got this bottle. It's a little
mini bottle, a little mini bottle.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I do not know where this came from. I think
this came as part of a gift. That's someone.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh, I thought you were going to say Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
They don't till they serve the Don Julio in the
Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Let me check. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, in
order to.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Get Don Julio, I'm assuming you have to fly TWA
or brown if maybe pan Am right, maybe America West
back in the nineties, America West Air tran Bravisimo, Well done,
well played.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Haven't brought that one up in a while. Do you
like tequila in general? No, No, you're not a fan.
And uh it is basically because of college. And that
wasn't a high end tequila I was drinking.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
No, it was.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And then on top of it, it was part of
at least on a couple of occasions, the worst possible
shot you could ever buy someone. Yeah, And I think
that's just it.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
We were so wrongly introduced to tequila that we have
these ridiculous flashback kind of moments of what tequila did
to some of you. And when I say some of you,
I mean all of you. Any drink smoke nation.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Have you ever had a prairie fires? Is that what
one of Tabasco yes tequila and Tabasco sauce?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I love me.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's exactly something you would buy your twenty one year
old friend on his birthday because you don't like him.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, A prairie fire is what you drink when you
want to see it on the back of a toilet bowl.
You're like, I wonder what that's going to look like,
and then it splashes back and gets you in the eye.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And that's a that's that's a disease you have a
hard time explaining to your significant other. Wow, all right,
I'm I'm the only person who knows that to be true.
And it never happened to me. I actually I had
one before we got on the air here and it
blew out one of mike lenses.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
First things first, this don Julio blanco. There's some nose here,
But I'm telling you that's that is a lovely citrus
right there, that that you first at first.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Get that tequila.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It kind of hit almost like a tequila ethanol kind
of things like college.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I I appreciate people who like a fine tequila has
never been in my wheelhouse. Uh, But I'm always willing
to try new things.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I find myself more attracted to the two things that
have a little more just a touch more age and
a touch more depth to them. And certainly I'm not
the blancos. The host work with me. I find myself
more attracted to the RUMs. I find that I'm having
this weird kind of fascination with gin lately, which it's
(05:21):
so weird because I'm trying Gin is so much on
the nose because of the juniper, and I'm trying to
see if I can catch different things out of the
nose and therefore can I really pick that out in
the flavor, because.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Gins as a taste is so.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Simple right there, there's so much more happening on the nose,
So I'm wondering if I could pick things out of
the nose to really match with a pal.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But you're not smoking a cigar with the gin.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Are you No? No, no, just trying.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, and again, I'm not really a drinker of anything.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Which is one of the weirdest things that people find
out about at least me, is that I leave it
all behind. I want to get an idea of what's happening.
I don't need the rest I leave behind. You've seen
it happens, glasses and glasses of everything.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, same, it's not the same. Fingers, Billoy, you you
ready for this? Sorry for this all day? He is
doing the Don Julio Blanco doing what's.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Known as the Kentucky chew, and we do that with
Berman moving around the palate. Really get an idea of
those flavors. I'm a believer in the two SIPs theory.
The first zip taste bud is a second sip. Really,
to get an idea of what those flavors are. Fingers,
you're you're right there with the Don Julio Blanco. What
say you?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I've heard it described as white pepper before. Would agree
with that. Really. Also, there is a tropical fruit to it.
It reminds me of those tropical fruit medley cups that
you would get your kids for their lunch a little
bit of that as well. It's very nice. You would
never know that. What's the proof on this is it?
(06:58):
I believe this is eighty eighty proof. I mean a
hint of alcohol. There is a nice little bit of
warmth on the finish that reminds you, Okay, there's there's
some alcohol here, but there's no sting and there's no
burning in the chest, nothing that we would expect from
some of the bourbon that we.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So the Don Julia Blanco is one hundred percent blue
ebro gave, made in Mexico, eighty proof, so forty percent
alcohol by volume, and the nose is very citrus right,
really aggressively, So a lot of lemon lime going on there.
But let us go in to you.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing well,
we like to call he's not even really doing the
sag on us wish. What do you think that's.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Easier than I thought it would be. Yeah, there's a
little bit of sting on the lip there, but it's
just it's not syrapy, No, it's it's just a sweet drink.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Maybe there is a slow.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Low heat middle chest. Hold on, Oh, good for you.
Go in for more. Uh, do you get any that
pepper like or you think that? I think yeah, But
I don't know if I call that a pepper. Maybe
if I was drinking it outside of the cigar. Maybe No,
(08:24):
I don't feel real pepper kind of hit there. The
question is, is the Don Julio in your liquor cabinet,
Fingers maloy, with all the other things that are in
your liquor cabinet, or is it just deep in the
recesses of your history?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Find out?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Now, I know, Fingers, you have been waiting on getting
a Blackstone, waiting till you're finally completely moved in, which
has taken nine hundred years.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But the house finally sold last week.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yes, the the the original house. It's all done. Yes,
everything is out. You have the money. Yes, you you've
rolled around in it like your Scrooge McDuck.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's already gone. Oh Roulett wheel.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Nice, he didn't gamble, he just bought a really big
Roulette wheel.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
There it is.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
See drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite
amateur drinker. Fingers molloy, Uh, mazzletub. By the way, I'm
glad that that part is done. You have no idea
iNFiNiT it right. It feels so good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Now I just have seven thousand boxes in my house,
so you're still not unpacked. Oh no, I don't even understand. No,
I don't understand. Okay, you realize I just had eye surgery. Yeah,
we have family members who have health issues. We're traveling
back and forth up to Michigan for that, and then
(09:43):
I work ninety seven hours a week. So, if I'm
hearing you right, a lot of excuses. Did you just
call me an excuse factory?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm I'm just saying, perhaps an excuse merchant, fair enough,
but I'm say purveyor of excuses.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
But also in my defense, I really like.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So you have not yet gotten yourself a flattop, a griddle,
blackstone for the backyard.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
No, I have not. I need that and I need
another grill. Oh that's definitely happened. I'm doing a two for.
I think that's happening. So when you say two for,
you mean like a two in one kind of combo.
You know, I'm getting a grill and a griddle.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So you came across the story over there at j
dot com stands for New Jersey how's your mota?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Walmart has so many Blackstone griddles on sale for cheap
prices and an end of summer deal, and it has
a list of all of these Blackstones.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And the question before.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Us is is this a good deal?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Are these good deals?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So, for example, they've got the Blackstone iron forged four
burner liquid propane outdoor griddle for five ninety one instead
of six thirty eight. That doesn't seem like much of
a deal.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No, it doesn't. But you get down further on the
list and there are better deals. But my question for
the griddle people and do you consider yourself a griddle aficionado?
So no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, I do not.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I don't know how many how many burners to I need?
Do I need three burners?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
See, I hope that one's on sale.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean how many burners is? How is? How much
space do you need? What are you really going to
do with it? The problem, the reason I have not
bought one yet, and I would buy one just to
have one, is that I have no idea what my
regular use is going to be of it. So if
I take a look at the grill that I have,
I have a Weber genesis a propane. I've got the
(11:39):
flat top in there. I can throw it in there
and boom. I could be saute and peppers and onions
for my fajitas or whatever it is that I thought
I was gonna do and be like, Okay, that was fun,
and then never do it again. Right, So that's the issue.
It's true, that's exactly. I have a pizza oven. I
have a pizza oven that I bought for my grill.
I had to have it. I've used it once. What
(12:00):
are pizza oven for the grill? You mean, just like the.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Stone, it's a stone, but it also it's the full ovens,
so you've got the top there that will melt the
cheese instead of just putting on a stone. You know how,
sometimes it's a little awkward to cook because there's too much.
I've never done it. It turned out great, and then
I haven't used it since.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So, I mean, they sell those pizza ovens and I
could write how much stuff do I need?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And then you go to put stuff away in the winters.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I want to be able to put stuff under a
cover and just leave it be. That's what I'm trying
to do. So I haven't gotten one yet, but how
big you need it? I don't know what do you
want to do? Is this really about smash burgers or
is this about pancakes?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Is this about what is this about? So it's about
smash burgers, It's about breakfast, and it's not just pancakes.
It's about doing the eggs next to the bacon, next
to the potatoes, doing the whole thing all at once,
instead of different frying pans like a sucker, like a savage,
to have that whole riddle space there to do all
of that at the same time. It's about doing fried rice,
(13:04):
It's about doing Philly cheese steaks. You're never gonna do these.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Look at me, I'm fat I'm gonna do all of
them tomorrow if I buy one.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You are so full of crap dar You're never gonna
I'm telling you, you're not gonna do it. This is ridiculous.
You're gonna do it once and then you're never gonna
do it again. Let me tell you how I know you.
There's no shot. Don't look at me like I've somehow
insulted you.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You're never gonna do this stuff. I dare you to
do it. I dare you to do it. You have
often becalled been called our generations Tony Robbins for that reason.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Right there, I will do all of that. Oh yeah, yes,
prove it. Well. Which one of these deals am I
going to take advantage of? Apparently I need a seventeen
burner Blackstone to do all of this. Okay, you do
enjoy smash Burger's right?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeh sure?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Now do you like to have the onions cooking like
smashed in with the patty or do you like I'm
on the side and on top. I think they're fine
on top.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
This one from Walmart is the Blackstone Patio Series two
burner twenty eight inch griddle with air.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Fryer, Oh, dear lord, with the.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Air fryer, which is the biggest load of malarkey the
world has ever seen. And you can get this for
six hundred ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And here is the Blackstone four burner thirty six inch
cooking station with the hardcover for three hundred.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And forty four dollars. That's all you need, right, I
gotta assume that's all you need. I mean, my goodness.
You know we joke about the air fryer. You joke.
I take it seriously, but I don't know if I
want my air fryer in the garage.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
In the garage. You wait, stop the accident in the garage. Yeh.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I like to have my grill and my whatever I
use to cook in the garage. Wheel it out in
the driveway, wheel it back in. That's how my Weber
Genesis lasted thirty years without a lick of rust on it.
Putting it out with a cover. That sounds wonderful in theory.
And the next thing you know, you're cooking in a
rust bucket.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You take it out every time. Every time.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, yeah, it has wheels. You just wheel it out,
you cook, you wheel it back in.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
This is gonna be our first actual fight.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What the hell is wrong with you? What's wrong with you?
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I get?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Listen, I get Some people like to buy a grill
every two years. Others of us like to keep our grill.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You keep it in the garage, yes, every day, Yes,
nights too.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I end on the weekends. Now, you're just talking crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That is insane? Do you leave your grill out year
round in the snow with a cover on it. Yeah, wow, Yeah,
you're living on the edge of my friend.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I don't know how that's living on the edge.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I have a really good cover. It covers it and everything.
You know what else covers it? Rust in about two years.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Go look, go look at my trigger, which I think
I'm on four years now.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Didn't you have to have a professional come clean? I
had no arm surgery, I can tell you. In my
garage mice in the UH. Never have had a rodent
in my grills as far as I know. You know
what worth it in and out of the garage. Every
time this wheels? What is wrong with you? You act
(16:41):
like I'm I need to sure but out but get
it out into the driveway. I bet I'm not the
all eat, drink smoke nation who keeps their grill in
the garage, takes it out and then puts it back
in when you're done.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Honestly, I don't know if I'm gonna let you listen
to the show anymore if you do that that if
you if you stored it in the garage for the winter,
I could see it in the summer, spring to fall.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yes, I got my TV's out there. I can watch
TV grill listen to my high Fi.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Your high fill in the garage, the real tape player.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Absolutely think up the PATROLA.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's how I listened to Day Last Soul A ridiculous
nice pole, Eat drink smoke.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It is your cigar Bourbon food Extravaganz.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That is fingers from when I find it all.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Eat drinks, smoke show dot com and don't forget your steaks, rabbis, strips, tenderloins.
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Speaker 2 (17:56):
That age aging.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Process, the twenty one days age, yes, including your ground
beef is just going to create such good flavor. You
get so much because you can order it by the quarter,
cout by the half, or buy the full cow.
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And with the price of beef right now going on
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dollars off your first order. We are drinking the Don
Julio Blanco tequila right here because I had I had
(18:40):
a mini bottle. I had a mini bottle that you
kind of see like in an aeroplane, an airplane size bottle.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There we went minis and the albaton.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We are smoking with the cameraon wrapper from the good
people at JC Newman. This is the Firecracker, which is
a style that comes from United Cigars and three and
a half inch cigar goes quick. Kid.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I'm surprised it has last this as long as it has.
I mean, we're in the second hour of the show,
and granted we talk a lot and we put our
sticks down.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You don't feel that you, because of the size, have
slowed down a little bit on it.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
There's some of that, yeah, but it has lasted longer
than I thought. Ten dollars a stick. I'm enjoying it.
I'll look for it on sale. Yeah, but ten dollars
it's a little steep for me.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So the only way to explain the ten dollars thing
is if you're only somebody who has forty five minutes
I see it. Yeah, do quality and Cameroon. It's a
great flavor and all the way throughout. Right now, I
would say, I'm just in a very tobacco forward kind
of feel with this cigar right here.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
But it might work for you at ten bucks.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It might be exactly what it is you're looking for
to your lifestyle, to your work life, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I will say this for a lot of people, if
they were going to go out, I have no problem
spending ten dollars on an adult beverage that would last
your half hours. So you know, what's the difference. You're
getting a different kind of enjoyment in a half an hour.
Ten dollars may not be bad after all.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I think it's I think it's a very very nice
cigar and flavor wise, it's just not my size. That's
that's all there is to it. That's that's the only
story that that I have.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Tequila is lovely.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The question Fingers Maloy, is the tequila we forgot to
talk about price. Is it in your liquor cabinet? I mean,
this is a seven fifty. We're talking about a regular
sized bottle here, not the mini.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Don Julio Blanco, What you're gonna You just stepped over
all my joke that I was. You're gonna say the
price I was made for that little mini bottle. Oh
my god, sorry, that's okay. Forty dollars um me either.
If you like tequila and it's your thing, I could
totally see it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I could see it.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
If you wanted something different at your line you want
to pour, I would I would try it. It's just
it's not my drink, so forty dollars I would probably pass.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
The one thing I would say is if you're doing Margarita's,
there's a real nice lemon lime hit going on, right.
It isn't the richness and the smoothness I would want
in a sipping tequila. But if I'm looking for something
that's going to now we turned into a frozen margaritas
or margarita's and by the picture, sure you're you're stepping
(21:28):
it up from whatever the well is and it's it's got.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It just has a good brightness.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right, it does have that agave taste, it does have
that traditional tequila kind of taste, but it does have
that nice bit of lemona. It's got some good fragrance
to it as well. And so for that, sure, if
it's in my liquor cabinet for something that I'm going
to do and have a sip of as you finish yours. Now,
it's that. It's just it's again, that's not the tequila
I'm going for. But for purpose, sure, sure, because it's
(21:57):
a nice little step up, and I think there's some
value that for the fragrance and for some of these
flavors which are nice.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, I finished mine. It's it's but it's it's one
of those things where I would be buying that bottle
to have it once every six months, and I just
to me, I would rather buy a bottle of bourbon
at that time.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I wouldn't even be doing that.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It would be for purpose, for purpose, Sure, it's time
Fingers Meloy. For News of the week, Tony The New
York Post has this story Young singles are giving up
on dating for this startling reason dune dun dum So.
There was a study done over at datingnews dot Com,
which is where I get all of my dating news.
(22:41):
It's a one stop shop for dating news. Forty three
percent of young US singles are going on fewer dates,
thirty seven percent are cutting back on dating in general,
and the reason why for a third of those people,
it's because of the economy. It's too expensive to date.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, so there's a problem with this story from the beginning,
and maybe your article there tells the story. What kind
of dates are they going on?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, they're using gen Z as an example.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, there is the problem. But gen Z has a
problem with this, and I'll get into that, but talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, many of them are drowning in debt, so it's
understandable that they do not want to date during this
time when a round of drinks and a few appetizers
can easily cost well over one hundred dollars, especially in
New York City.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well, first things first, we're not talking about New York City.
Life is not New York City. Cut it out with
the freaking New York City nonsense. Godled the book bull crap.
That's number one.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, it's only eighty dollars in Central Indiana.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
So as we come to you from Indianapolis, Indiana. Here's
the problem that I'm hearing about that on the dating
scene high school college, there is an expectation that seems
to be in play of we have to go to
(24:11):
this kind of place and it has to be this
kind of meal, in this kind of and my kids
are like, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'm absolutely not doing that.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
If I have to prove myself in that kind of
way for someone, I'm just getting to know.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And so the problem is that in gen z, which
I have a lot of faith in for a lot
of reasons.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The expectation is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And whoever filled their head with this expectation is a
terrible parent. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
There's a lot of I know my worth and I'm
worth more than a coffee date. You hear that a lot.
But what I don't understand is say you take your
first date out to some fancy dinner at a restaurant,
but you know seven minutes in that you never want
(25:10):
to see this person again. Wouldn't you rather? Even on
the other end, unless you're just totally desperate for some
expensive dinner, want to bail as soon as possible. That's
what's so great about a coffee date is that you
can sit back, have your cup of Joe, and say
six minutes and you know what, Clearly we are not
meant to have a second date. I'm bailing, yes, and.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think that'd be better for everybody. But what's weird
is that we see so much of hookup culture. You
see so much of the online dating stuff and the hey,
let's just you know, make this happen kind of stuff.
They'll do that, but for the date they expect all
of the of the trappings. The I'm not opposed to
(25:55):
the trappings, ladies, and I am pro trappings. It's just
that it doesn't It shouldn't come on date one. It
has to come over time. And and I don't think
there's anything wrong with that. I don't think there's anything
wrong with with setting the expectations of things growing from that.
But if your focus is how much will they spend
(26:17):
on me, and ladies, I'm talking to you, it's the
wrong focus. Now that's different. Then he won't spend anything
on me. That's a very different thing. And you're supposed
to not be with that guy. How about this for
the other side.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The study also revealed that nearly one in four said
they would rush their relationship timeline and move in together
so they could split the costs of living expenses.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Talking about relationships, are we talking about roommates? Which what
are we doing here? Because if we're talking about roommates,
go right ahead. But that's not relationships.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well some people are who are married or just roommates.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, that's just awful. That's that's no, I'm not even
looking at you.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That's just that is us awful.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
We should talk about that. So I think the idea
of these little robots that do the delivery this, this
is the sign of the end of days, right, Yes,
this is living in wally. We are all doomed. Yes,
(27:27):
Shalla la la t drink smoke nicely done. I'm Tony Katz.
That is fingers while I find it all at EA
Drinks Smoke show dot com door Dash customers in Phoenix,
if you get the door Dash, it's gonna be delivered
most probably by something called a dot. It is an
autonomous delivery bot named Dot, the first such robot with
(27:50):
the ability to maneuver with the bike lanes and on
roads and sidewalks, built expressly for local commerce. The only
thing worse than this idea is the idea of drone
delivery of your stuff, which means people are going to
get decapitated that drone is going to come in hot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I was visiting my daughter, she goes to college, and
I was on her campus and it wasn't a door
dash bot, but the campus, their food service through their cafeterias,
has one of these robots that goes around campus. And
I was driving down the road with her and I said,
what the hell is that right? And she said, yeah,
(28:29):
it's one of these robots that delivers food to your dorm.
And it creeps me the hell out.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It is if you're asking, or if you're saying, well
tony with well fingers, the technology is coming and you
got to stop acting like ridiculous old people and get
used to it. I would say to you that you're
the problem, the enemy of all humanity. There is no
way that these things don't end up in a local
(28:56):
retention pond and we find out.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Whether or not your robot can float or is it
a witch.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's that's what's gonna happen. There's not a question. This
is this is we are kidding ourselves. This is NFTs
all over again.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Here's my problem. I have an internal struggle really about
these things. On one hand, right, it helps me avoid
all human contact, makes fingers molloy very half it does.
So the idea of some sort of RoboCop showing up,
some sort of android, some sort of cart with a
(29:35):
iPad on it, delivering me my food that appeals to me.
But let's be honest, at one point, they're going to
rule us all robot Yes, they're going to take over society.
They're going to run things right, and then we will
be delivering some sort of fake food to them. So
here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
If I may, The robot is going to come to
your house delivering your What did you get delivered? What
do you get delivered from the robot?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
What order? I didn't order? Anything?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Would?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
What would I order? A Philly cheese steak?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Philly cheese steak is going to come to your door
and and while it's it's it's coming up to your door,
the robot is taking pictures of everything of your house,
of you, of the surroundings, and then it's going to
sell that data to all these companies that are in
your market. Hey, I see your hedges are looking a
little rough. Here's some here's some hedge trimmers, and oh hey,
(30:27):
looks like you need some paint. Here's a whole painting deal.
And that's what this is, them accumulating data on me
and then selling it to others who are going to
abuse me with all of their offers.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And I didn't get anything out of the deal. You
got a cheese steak. No, no, no, I.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Ordered a cheese steak. I didn't give up my soul
to get said cheese steak.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You got the cheese steak without having to interact with anyone.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Whiz is not that much of a high ticket item
in my view, in my lifestyle. So this is part
of the problem. And the other problem is it's it's
there's no value. You're not better off because the robot
delivered it.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Are we better up with AI?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
We can be there. There are a lot of things
that are worthwhile in the world of AI. But if
we're talking about condensing all of human knowledge into something
you look up as opposed to something you learn or
engage with, we've got ourselves a real fundamental issue with
how as a society we move forward.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Can we branch off for a moment, sure, and it
kind of revisit the story we talked about in the
last segment regarding how dating has become ridiculously expensive for something.
And while I have empathy for that, and at the
same time, I hear stories of I've got a daughter
who's in high school and she has friends who will
(31:52):
door dash Starbucks before they go to school. Nope, And
it's like, if we had that much kind of a parent thing,
if we have that much money where high school students
can DoorDash a cup of coffee to the house. And
I know not everyone has the means to do so,
but it does feel like while the economic the times
(32:16):
are somewhat tough, was as inflation has ravaged the dollar.
Having said that, we spend a lot of money on
useless crap.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I swear to you right now if if your daughter
door dash is a coffee, I'm gonna have words with her.
And I believe the most I've ever said to your
child is hey, I think that's the grand total. I
actually think that your kids are afraid of me. I
(32:47):
don't think I've ever said this to you before. I
think your kids are very scared of me.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You think so, oh, Yeah, they're not scared of anything.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Oh they're terrified.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Actually, they're not even scared of the eventual robot takeover
that will happen sooner. Rather just you know, my children
aren't afraid of you.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
It's that when I first started talking about you, Fingers Maloy,
Fingers Maloy, they thought I was talking too fast, and
they thought you were Fingers my lawyer. And to this day,
some fifteen plus years later, you are known as Fingers
my lawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I've been called worse, but you have to admit that
when you hear things like that. Parenting has gone to
hell in a hambas But we apparently there's still a
lot of discretionary income out there if you can spend that,
and then on top of that, you've got all the
subscription to all the streaming services and all the other stuff.
(33:38):
People are very comfortable saying I don't have the money
for certain things, but yet I door dash seventy five
percent of my meals.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Take that money and put it into a fund that's
tied to the Dow Jones and just let it grow
and see where you are in thirty five years. Take
that money that you spend in a month, and then
take off twenty percent to buy your own damn coffee
and make sandwiches. Put the rest into the fund and
(34:10):
just start letting it grow. Can we teach some basic
economic theory? For the love of God, if you let
your kids DoorDash Starbucks and you've watched it happen and
you don't stop that, you're a garbage parent.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
You're saying it should be duncan.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, clearly that's not the point. Oh my god, I'm
I'm mortified.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
But it is. When we talked about this before on
the show. It is amazing how kids can go through
K through twelve education and not have any idea on
how they should be coming up with a budget investing
for the student.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
There are some states and school districts that are working
on this, and I think that there should be whole
classes on stock X and there should be classes about
how you do this. We need to bring homec back
into the world, not only make your own food. How
to balance a checkbook? What does it mean you got
to learn a signature so you can sign a check,
to the extent that you might even still write a check.
These things matter so much more, so much more than
(35:15):
putting on airs and putting on appearances, make your own coffee,
make your own lunch.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
This isn't just true of the fifteen year old. This
is true of the twenty five year old. My oldest
daughter is a college senior, and the story she would
tell me about living in the dorm the first two
years and kids living in the dorm not even being
able to do their own laundry, don't have any idea
how to load the laundry into the washing machine, how
much soap to put in, completely clueless. It's like, you're
(35:43):
a college student. You didn't do any laundry at home?
Did I?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Or did I not say terrible parenting? Yes, and I
mean it. That's terrible parenting. And I might be insulting
some people and need drink smoked Nation right now.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I'm not trying to insult you.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Fix it. Stop doing that. We are not doing ourselves
any favors or kids any favors.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
This goes into a whole conversation which we were gonna
do the story.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
We'll have to do it next week, about the idea
of the psychology of these parents who want to be
their kid's friend. You're not a friend, You're the parent.
It's a job. Do the job. You could still enjoy them.
It's easier to be their friend, though, but it's not
meant to be easy. If you want it to be easy,
that's that's just weird.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You become an uncle, right, that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Drinking of the Don Julio Blanco tequila forty dollars a bottle.
If you're making a picture of Margarita's, sure, go right ahead.
And the Elbaton cameroon wrapp or firecracker size three and.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
A half by fifty. Nice smoke, It was nice. See
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