August 29, 2025 • 36 mins
Have you ever wondered if holding grudges is making you more joyless? On this Happy Hour edition of Eat Drink Smoke, our hilarious hosts get real about the subtle habits that zap joy from our lives. Plus, a review of the Don Pepin Garcia E.R.H.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Don Peppine Garcia.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, my gosh, Pepin Peppine the Blue was actually one
of the first cigars that got me into cigar smoking.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
There was the Casa Magna, the Colorado, and the Esquiro.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The Don Peppine and it has been a long time
since I've had one. And then a local cigar lounge
called Cigar Haven and Fisher's Indiana came upon this with
the red label. I said, I have not seen this.
This is a rebrand of one of their more classic cigars.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
D drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy,
and this is the Don Peppine Garcia e rh Now,
this was the Alrey de los Habanos going back to
two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It was his first cigar.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Made in the US, which is a very very cool
story coming out of Miami now being brought back. It
actually came back in twenty twenty four, but this is
the first time I have seen this. This is a
Toro six by fifty two, which means it's six inches long.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Tee always makes fingers well, I laugh.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And the ring age of fifty two, the diameter of
the cigar, or how thick it is around tee again
with the laughter. A sixty four ring gauge is a
full one inch round. Before I get into the rapper.
Here this Ecuadorian, this Simata Risotto. I think it's Ecuadorian
sumatra risatto. That feels very very good in the hand
(01:36):
like that. I don't feel like it's too much. I
feel like it's there, it's present. I'm aware of that.
I like this hand feel quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Fingers lore ID two. I was struck by two things
upon lighting this. And we're just into the first third
of the first third of the cigar, Tony, and it
is the half that you're referring to. But then also
how easy to draw is and the amount of smoke
that is coming off of this cigar. Very happy with
(02:04):
everything so far, so and you're just lighting you on.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I know, I know what's your deal with this? I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Why do I wait till the show starts to light?
I don't I don't have a great answer for that.
I don't actually know. This is an Ecuadorian sumatra a rapper,
so it's a Samatra Risotto rapper. So you see this
on the the La Gloria Kubana siri are, which is
a big, big smoke. You see this on the Ibykreo.
(02:31):
I think we've done this cigar, the La Historia. I
think we've done that cigar, and not too long ago.
We smoke a lot of cigars. Sometimes I do forget
the Rocky Patel nineteen ninety has.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I believe this rapper on it, and so does Alec Bradley.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Bradley the striker Striker, Striker, striker striker, the Persando Persando, Prinsado, Prinsado,
that has this rappers as well. So you've got a
little bit of the red in there. You've got a
nice bit of oil. You can see the leaf, but
it's not overlea vany. It is a big flavor. Got
(03:10):
definitely got some spice, kind of wrapper fingers. You've been
smoking a little bit more than me. You talk about
the pleasant smoke, What do you get enough?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Well, you already touched on it. There is a nice
bit of spice coming off of this stick as we
first lit it, and then also a nice bit of
cedar as well.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Right, yeah, I'm not getting me. I'd I'm more wood
than I can be. Pick out cedar and I'll go
with you on that. But that is really present on
the tongue, like like tip all the way through the tongue.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's really right there laying down.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You know how I started to get really good at
picking up cedar notes versus generic wood notes. Yes, I
had a really cheap humidor. Okay, first humidor I got right.
I opened it up when I knew I wasn't gonna
use it anymore, and I just started licking it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, that's what I did. Huh, exactly how it went down?
And now cedar just like that. I mean, I take
your word for it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
What's also interesting here is that it's not liquorice, but
there really is this almost tangy note that that's kind
of sticking with it. So the spice is there and
I actually feel it on the lips. That wood is there,
Actually it's on the tongue. And then there is this, Uh.
(04:28):
The guy's over at Holts, which is a nice place
to get cigars Holts dot com h O L t S.
They talk about it as a niece. I'm like, that's
that's an interesting way.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
To put it.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm sorry, what a niece A n I s it.
Why is it every time we mentioned a big word,
you get scared.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I wouldn't say scared, just inquisitive, Tony. I feel like
part of Ehrink smoke is we all get together and
we enjoy a cigar.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
We also learn a little something.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
So I wanted to make sure I was right, and
I am right because a niece would have kind of
a licorice flavoring to it. Okay, So I don't get
that because I think that would be jarring for me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I'm not a liquorice guy. Twizzlers are not liquorice.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
That they could say all they want, it's not, but
it's so, it's it's there.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
There's something almost.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
If I was talking about food like a new mommy,
like there's a there's a feel going on, but I
can't quite it's it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I would not call it a niece. So there. I
don't know what those guys over there at Holds how
how they got to that one.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'd love to know. If you're listening Holds dot com,
let us know how you got that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
You know, as you've said on several occasions, everybody's palate
is different, and things hit people in different ways. For me,
I am just getting that cedar note and that spice.
For me, it is all over the mouth, between the
cheek and gum, a little pinch, I mean, on the
roof of the mouth, all over.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What's super interesting is that I was spice bomb.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I was expecting almost a red white pepper explosion.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No what I have.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I almost want to call it a little bit of heat,
But you're right, it's everywhere, but it isn't. It isn't
a punch in the face. It's a full coating and.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I think that's a very different kind of experience. Yeah,
that's I believe that's fair to say. I thank god it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
What I'm going to be interested in is, you know
often when we talk about cigars like this where it
has a nice bit of spice at the light, is
if it really does dissipate or we do get used
to it over a period of time.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'm going to bet I will bet money right now.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I have never had the cigar in my life from
Don pepine Garcia. This is the erh you want to
grab as we're doing the Toro the six by fifty two.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I will bet you all.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The money in my pocket versus all the money in
your pocket that this spice is going to be with
us all the way through the smoke.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You want to put money on it, Well, all the
money in my pocket right now? All the money? Do
you accept diners Club? Do I do? I? You better
believe I do.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You want to grab your notebooks right What did you
eat today? What did you drink day? You want to
write all that down in your notebook. This is what
you're smoking the don Papingarcia RH six by fifty two.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What'd you eat today? What did you drink today?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
What is the weather finally cooling down in Indianapolis, Indiana?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
The humidity the whole summer has been humid, suck. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I actually enjoyed a two cigars on the back deck
this week, and that's the first time I've been able
to do that since April.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's been awful. So this has been very nice.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
All those things affect the palette, and you want to
write that down because that way you can kind of
get an idea and then break the cigar up into
thirds first, third, second, third, final third and write down
the flavors you get out of each third.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
What is it that you're getting out of the cigar?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And when you then smoke that cigar a month later,
six months later, whatever it is, you do it again,
compare your notes. That's your through line. That's really what
you're getting out of the cigar. I recommend it highly.
This show is my notebook. That much is for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Also nice.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's not necessarily oily, but it is smoother than one
would expect. It's almost a bit of suede going on
there on the wrapper. It's really nice. The don pepine Garcia,
the e rh Now is it in our humidor Only
time will tell?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And also price might play a huge part in that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Find everything we do at eatrins Smoke show dot com
and don't forget to follow on Instagram at Eating Smoke Podcast.
It's not like we can go a week without a sale.
America needs a sale at all times. There has to
(08:55):
be something to look forward to with deals, deals, deals.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
What can I do to put you in a deal today?
See drink smoll com.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Tony kounts that is America's favorite amateur drinker fingers with
looy his cigar went out on them amateur. There are
labor labored ideals happening. If I could say, I'd be
really impressive labored ideals. According to the people at Good
Morning America, that's where I go for all of my
labored ideals.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
News.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I could see that because it combines two of your
favorite things, a deal and a good morning.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You are poetry, thank you. First things, First, do you
look for a labored ideal? Is there? Wait? Hold on,
I think you meant that.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yes, absolutely, I've got a couple of things in mind
that I'm going to be looking for as far as
labored ideals go, Like like, what first of all labor Yes,
and a day. Having said that, it's the end of
the official officially, unofficially, Uh, it's really unofficial because it's
(09:59):
not officially the end of summer Labor Day. Everybody kind
of looks at it, not as much as they used
to because apparently kids go back to school in July.
But back in the day, you'd go back to school
the day after Labor Day when you were supposed.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
To exactly the way God intended it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
When you weren't switching your clocks forward and back that
whole thing you started it. But no, there are certain
end of summer deals I'm looking for, Like I've got
a sun room in the new house, I want some
wicker patio furniture.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, just so you know, full disclosure. I despise wicker,
do you why? Okay, maybe it's only me.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Maybe this doesn't happen to other people, but I'm telling
you it does happen to me, and I want you
to know about it. There's the wicker look I don't like.
But there is like a resin kind of wicker that's
like see like outdoor wiker.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You know what I'm talking about. It's like really plastic.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So I used to sell wicker furniture. Oh yeah, no,
I'm serious. Hey, you're the king Wicker. That was Lloyd Flanders.
Is the name of the company, is all right? They
called their product perma wicker. Okay, tell a little bit
about perma wicker.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I maybe it's just me. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
When I touch it, like I'm getting up, I can
use your arms. I feel like I'm getting shocked. Am
I the only person that happens to And I move
and it like I don't know if it catches me
or whatever. It like I'm being shocked. It is the
most uncomfortable, unpleasant experience. And that's why everything in the
(11:39):
backyard is like made by the Amish last for forever.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I took out an eighth mortgage. Don't care. Wow, you
don't unplug your furniture before you sit in at top it?
Am I the only person this happens to you. Yes,
you are. I've never again.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
When I was in my early twenties, I worked at
a pool and patio store, and I old patio fir.
She sold Lloyd Flanders Lloyd Flanders homecrest furniture as well.
I don't think they're in business anymore in Winston. I
have to look that up and see if they're in
business right outside Saganaw Winston. Yeah, No, where's Winston? Where
is Winston? He was my butler, having said that, I
(12:20):
thought you said it was in Winston. No, the other
brand name was Winston. Oh, I thought the town was Winston.
Was in sag Sagon. He's pooling, patio and Sagon mission
long since going out of business?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yes, they lost their best salesman, that's true. I also
sold Latex uh. But all the years of being in
the showroom, I never saw anyone sit down in wicker
furniture and say, ouch.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm telling you it happens all. I hate it. I
absolutely positively.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Despised, and they were shocked was when they saw the
deal I could give them on furniture.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
So there are deals. It's so dumb. Mattresses? Is that
a big Labor Day thing? Because I'm I'm in the market.
Are you I am in the market.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I want you to know right now, I will easily
spend twelve million dollars on a mattress if I could
just get some freaking sleep.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I'm in the market too, because I've got a much
smaller bedroom right now in the new house. And going
from a king to a queen. I honestly I don't
even know how you're married. I like, like that would
be instant. It was fun.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So I'm looking into one of those California kings right
where it's kind of King curious, but it's not a
full he a full size king.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
If there was a mattress size called King curious.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh that's why.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What is the one that basically Lenin and John Lennon
Yokohona had Is that called an Alaska like where it's
it's basically a couch?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Oh didn't they sleep in our I don't think theirs
was round, right?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, it wasn't the Queen of Bathsheba. It was it
was it was just a giant. I thought it was
called an Alaska. Oh, you're gonna make me google Las.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
No, you don't have to be Yeah, good morning America.
Say anything about a sale on Alaska.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Bed No, they said that Avocado and Helix and nat
Repedic and Bear Mattress.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I don't even know what any of these brands are.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Low's is gonna have thirty five percent off select appliances
including refrigerators, washers, and dryers.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And the same thing is with home Depot right there.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So you can get a Samsung thirty inch five burner
freestanding smart gas range for seven hundred and ninety eight
dollars down from eleven forty nine.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Wow, by the way, Uh, we're gonna have any drink
smoke flashback flashback. An Alaskan King bed mattress is one
hundred and eight inches by one hundred and eight inches.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So it's a perfect square. Yes, holy, that's huge. Yeah,
should get one of those. Take the whole room, I know. Yeah,
you just walk right from the door right into the bed. Oh,
it's like you're turned your whole bedroom into a fort.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's that's it. Do that, dude. I just want to
see how you get it in the room.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You get it in the house, the room, My goodness, well,
I'm assuming nowadays. Uh, you get the Alaska King bed
in a box and then you open the box. The bed,
you know, immediately gets to full size in like what
thirty seconds, and then the bed stays in there until
(15:36):
you die the house down right?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Oh god, you've done those beds before. Yes, they're great.
That's unbelievable to me. You've never done a box.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We've talked about this before, and all I'm saying is
I've never done it, and I don't think I'm doing
it this.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Are you that picky about a mattress? Like, do you
have to sit back and try out? I've got to
go to a mattress store all the mattresses, dude.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I yes, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry everybody. I
just broke Yes. I need to check this out. I do.
I would. And let me tell you, I've had a
sleep Number bed for years, so why are you in
the market. I just think it's been years. I think
it's it's running. This sleep Number is a lot lower
(16:22):
than it. You say, this sleep number has gotten so old?
Right there?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
How old is it? So push the button and goes anyway.
They are good Labor Day sales. They're they're out there.
I just want to see you going to a mattress
store and say, ShopKeep, where are your Alaskan Kings? And
there is a sale on Ninja air fryers with a
five core capacity for eighty nine ninety nine if you
(16:52):
want to be taken. Although Ninja, I would stand by
that brand every day of the week and twice on Sunday,
so you should get one. I'm not no, No airy
air fryer is a bull crap.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's a lie. It is a scam. Right way to
make a hot dog is the same people who sold
you the pet rock?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
This is just this is not a thing, right, But
Ninja as a brand, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
ShopKeep where do you keep your pet rocks?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
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Speaker 1 (17:29):
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(19:12):
I've never actually I've heard it both ways. It's one
of those things where in the moment you're like, I
should ask, and then I always forget to ask.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
This is the Don pepine Garcia. This is the E
R H. So.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
This is a rebrand of a cigar that was the
first cigar he made and coming to in in in
the US when they were they're based in Miami, I
believe in two thousand and five, and this came back.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
This is the Toro six by fifty two with that
Ecuadorian sumatra samata rosato a wrapper right there there is spice.
There is that that would cedar for fingers would for me,
this little bit of what is that other thing that
I haven't been able to put my finger on, But
so far I'll give you the call on this one.
(19:57):
The draw is exceptional, the the hand feel is terrific.
The spice does not overwhelm, which I wasn't expecting fingers.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I am very happy with the smoke. I am as well.
For me.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Listen that whether that spice I've gotten used to it
or it has subsided a little, I don't know the
answer to that other than it's not hitting me like
it did in the first third. But it's still there
and it's still nice, and that cedar is still there.
I'm not getting much else off of this cigar right now.
I'm not getting any kind of sweetness? Am I getting
(20:32):
anything about? You know a third note that you were
talking about? But having said that, it's been wonderful. The
draw continues to be a salad. It's been a low
maintenance stick. Very happy with a cigar.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Where I think I differ is that I do think
that there is you know, I keep talking about it's
like tangy, there is a little undercurrent of sweet. It's
not vanilla, it's not nutty, it's not creamy. It's it's
not those things that we would normally talk about it.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I'm not that's not it. It's just there, is it? Earth?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Cocoa coffee? Something is happening And I called it tanging before.
It's kind of morphed a little bit. I just don't
know what that is yet, but we may get there
and it could be what you're pairing it with. Well,
I've got die coke. Oh, I've got die coke in here.
I'm not doing a coffee in this one.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And you're I think you're just water ice water, right,
which is also what's in my veins.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's a tough guy.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Fingers boy. Yes, this is the don vaping garcia e
r H Toro.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Is this in your humidor?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
For nine dollars and fifty cents stop it absolutely all day?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yes, the end, the end.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And I'm telling you that I really do not. I'm
not a natural spicy cigar smoker. It's not where I
live and breathe. It's not what I like. I I
like coffees, I like cocoats, I like leathers, I like Earth's.
I love that nutty cream that we often talk about.
This is very nice this. You could now I.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Should take it back.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
If you're somebody who'd ex spice, you could do this
on the daily. If you're somebody who can appreciate it, yeah,
you can do this once or twice a week at
nine dollars and fifty cents.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
All day.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
A bargain, quite literally a bargain at this price. And
with the construction solid man, we did a straight cut
on this. I wonder if somebody did a punch on this,
how intense that would be interesting, Like if you really
wanted to build that up. Let me know if you
do that, just just send us a send us an
(22:48):
email Fingers at etrinksmokeshow dot com. Fingers is in charge
of all emails right there. This is very very nice,
but it's time fingers a ratio malloy.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
For news of the week, Tony, Oh god, why would
you start it like that.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I'm shocked. You may have a new coke marketing disaster
in twenty twenty five, and it has to do with
Cracker Barrel. People are very upset and this they're stock
tanked after Cracker Barrel unveiled a new controversial logo. Your thoughts,
Tony on the new logo, which it takes some of
(23:24):
that charm away from the old Country store restaurant. It
just says cracker barrel. There's nothing, there's no illustrational image, nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I want to say for.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
The record, First, if you don't know, the cracker barrel
logo had a guy sitting in a rocking chair. You know,
they got the rocking chairs out front there of the
cracker barrel. And then it had a barrel because you know,
cracker barrel. And then it said cracker barrel, and then
it said old something store, Old country store, Old country store.
They got rid of everything else except the cracker barrel.
(23:55):
Same colors, same everything else says cracker brow. And there
is is a social media outrage. Good thing Fingers molloy
monitors social media outrage.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Passion of mine to monitor social media outrage.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
That that's what he's been doing, monitoring the social media outrage.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And I'm here to tell you. Okay, oh remember remember
you're about to create more social media outragern cursed SnO, cursed. Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Everybody on social media is a blanke and moron, an
absolute schmuck, every single influencer.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You won't believe what cracker barrel did. You don't care
what Cracker Barrel did.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
It's a freaking logo, Readers, they didn't make it look
like Jaguar. It's the same colors, it's the same font.
There's nothing to this story. You're not outraged, You're just
begging for a click. Why don't you just create interesting
content and maybe somebody will show up? You absolute freaks.
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Go play some Chinese checkers in Cracker Barrel. Cracker so
they got the game. You don't care about the logo.
What you care is that eleven thirty at night when
you tried to check into that motel whatever it was,
and you realize that somebody was murdered in there. You're
going to have yourself a lovely meal so you can
do the five hours left that you have on your
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drive that you thought you were just too tired to do.
Thank goodness, Cracker Barrel is there for you to get
you some eggs and potatoes and maybe a little bit
of bacon. You don't care about the logo. You never
cared about the logo. These people fingers will only. These
people are terrible And I'm telling you right now we
need to open up.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
The jails to let these people in. Wow. Now, ask
me what I think of the TSA. I'm more disgusted
with these people that I am the TSA.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I will say this, first of all, I really don't
care about the logo, Thank you very Having said that,
the new logo looks like something that would be on
a block of cheese.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Sure, isn't that what? You don't have a cheese on
a cracker? You know where you get the cracker from
a barrel. It all fits.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So this is something that I'm posing this question and
I wouldn't have thought it until this whole outrage thing happened.
And you may be correct, maybe it's just a bunch
of people outrage mining and nobody really cares.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
No one cares at all.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
But if you are a person that lives a cracker
barrel lifestyle where you need all the cracker barrel merch
you can get your hands on, and they change the
logo on you, and you loved that logo for a
long time, and you had a passion for the cracker
barrel logo while you were living your cracker barrel lifestyle,
I could see where that would be a jolt to
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not only your lifestyle, but really your whole belief system.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
By the way. The stock didn't tank. It went down.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Three Bucks tanked, It didn't tank. These people are ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You won't believe what happened after that. Be sure to
tune in for Finger's reaction video.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Check that out on the YouTube. If you didn't know
by now, Fingers malloy is a joyless man.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
That's not true. That's true. That's not true. It's not true.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Every time you and I get ready to do eat
drink smoke, I look at you and the first thing
I say to you is got joy.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, it's not. That's not what happens.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's eat drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is America's
favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
We we do when we when we get together, it's
good see each other.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You know, we talk of course through the.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Week, but when we get together, there's usually just a
moment of is everybody really this terrible? And the answer
comes back yes, yes, And it usually starts with a
conversation about how nobody knows how to do their job anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
You're not kidding, No, you're not kidding. It's this constant,
constant thing.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And so there's this list because there's always a list
with us that eat, drink smoke from vegout mag dot com.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
This is not real you you created this in your
spare time. No, it's not That's not true at all.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Vegout mag dot veg outmag dot com is where I
go to find joy.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So Fingers finds an article fifteen subtle habits of people
who become increasingly joyless as they age, and habit number one,
turning small annoyances into a worldview that's us.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yes, absolutely, I had a scar on my hands, so
I couldn't applaud.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Is that more you than me?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Or is that in different ways equal? It's equal? Oh,
there's I will I will say something like I had
terrible service at a gas station. I go there and
the hot dog roller is rolling, and yet there are
no hot dogs on the roller, And I'll say, everybody's
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terrible at their job.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Right. Let me give you the three examples this list gives.
A delayed train becomes the city is broken, Well, the
city has broken.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
A rude waiter becomes people don't have manners anymore?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Were they really don't have any manners? Any tech becomes
everything's going downhill? Ain't that the truth?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
This is the most accurate thing I've ever read of
my entire life.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
You didn't you didn't see that. The author of this
piece is named Fingers Maloy.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I swear to you for the past year longer longer, uh,
I would say, three times a month when we get
together do the show, Fingers Mloi says to me, everybody's
terrible at their job. And I've gotten to the point
where I don't ask, like what happens, because I don't
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want to know. It's just it must be said in
order to have the soul cleansing experience that is eating
smoking being part of eating smoke nation.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And then he's fine for at least two.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And a half hours, May I say you can. When
this theme started about a year and a half ago,
of me saying everyone is terrible at their job, you
would say to me, Fingers, that's ridiculous. Eighty percent of
people know exactly what they're doing at their job. And
then slowly, over the past year and a half, I've
been chipping away at that number, and now he's right
along with me where he says everybody's terrible at their job.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Not everybody is terrible at their job, but my god,
a lot of people are terrible at their job, not
a lot of people are very bad, and it's because
the very concept of the standard has been eliminated and
there is no consequence for being bad at the job.
There's just the thankfulness that somebody is there to stand
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in the uniform and do the basic of approval or disapproval.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Do you think also it's because there's less pride in
one's work, because in twenty twenty five, a lot of
people are at their job now instead of their career.
So there's less pride in it because it's just a
job and it's just I'm just punching a clock, and
I don't look at it as a career.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, that's interesting, But I do ascribe to the
theory that there are no small parts, just small actors.
That the role that you play, the job that you have,
has to be done to a level I have tried
in my own children. Don't do the job as if
someone's watching. It doesn't matter if they're watching. Do the
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job as it needs to be done, whether it's long work,
whether it's cleaning your room, or whether it's going to work.
Early is on time and on time is late. If
you can't live by that, you're not going to have success.
So maybe you're right. Maybe my viewpoint is to some
antiquated and to some rare and some valuable, but it
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certainly is not.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Mainstreams right now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Maybe maybe you have a point that they see it
as this temporary thing that fills the hours until they
can doom scroll again on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I don't. I don't know if that's the case, but
it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And and now we have people who are filled with joy,
who have made careers out of doom, scrolling on their
on their phones.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
On on the on the list of uh, I'm growing
my past. That fifteen subtle habits that people who become
increasingly joyless as they age, collecting grievances like souvenirs.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That was you rubbing your hands, Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Like hot dignity. It's my topic. This is where I
got my doctorate. Nobody loves holding a grudge quite like me.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Are you a grudge holding? Do you hold any grudges
against me? Not yet? But today he's still young. Oh, okay,
I'll make it happen. Uh. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh, I have a whole ledger of people who have
wronged me. Oh, it's all right, list, it's all on
a second, I've got a list. That's I thought that
was different. What does it mean to you to hold
a grudge? What is that actually?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Like?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Usually for me, it is when I'm holding a grudge
against someone, it is completely ignoring them when they walk
into a room and then do what everybody else does
and talk behind their back. That's not just being bitchy.
Well that's part of holding a grudge, is to be bitchy.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, but I thought like, like holding a grudge was
I'm not talking.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
To you you know what you did?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Oh see, but that would involve actually having a uh
some sort of a conversation with you.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
See that's why I don't think you're holding a grudge.
You're just happy they did something horrific so you never
have to talk to them again because you didn't want
to talk to them.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
In the first place. Oh, there is that they're doing
you a favor.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Why not just say thanks, chum and go about your business.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
See that's what I like about you. You're a glass
half full kind of guy, always have been.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Also on the list of making a joyless outsourcing your
mood to screens.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
There's nothing wrong with scrolling says veg out mag where
do you find how did you find this? How did
you find this?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
So, for those that don't know, eighty five percent of
the story is done in ea hrink smoke are things
that I find. I do a lot of the show prep,
and so I go to the Google News for some
of my stuff, and they actually have a little tap
that says for you and veg out mads, here's a
story from vege out bag about people being joyless that
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seems to me right down your alley figures tell you.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I've never done Google News ever in my life. Oh
all the show prep I've done for radio shows, the
local Indianapolis show, the nationally syndicated show TV stuff, I've.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Never gone to Google News ever once. Never ever? Wow,
where do you go? I go to ask jeeves. There
it is.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
While there's nothing wrong with scrolling, the trap is letting
your phone decide how you'll feel for the next forty
five minutes. Algorithms don't care if you leave happy or heavy.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
If you start.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Most mornings and end most nights inside someone else's feed,
you've handed your joy the keys and asked it to
wait outside.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Wait a minute, my Joy can handle keys. This article
has taken my joy. It makes me the writing it
makes me want to veg out the right You're one more,
one more making meaning a solo sport, and I'm like,
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I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
People who drift into joylessness often did a lot alone
for a long time, solve problems, carried burdens, kept secret,
Independence becomes identity. The quiet ship back to joy starts
with letting someone stand next to you while you do
your life.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
It since like being a guy.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
You take all of your problems right, all of your burdens,
You keep them a secret, and you cram them deep
down inside of you and not share them with anyone. Right,
you just sit in a room alone, doom scrolling on
your phone.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
That's is that the dream? God bless America.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
By the way, the doomscrolling is just pure evil. That
is the thing that has to stop. You have no
idea how much of your life is missing just by
just doing that.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You're right, I should be watching more TV. Good point,
very good point.
Don Peppine Garcia.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, my gosh, Pepin Peppine the Blue was actually one
of the first cigars that got me into cigar smoking.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
There was the Casa Magna, the Colorado, and the Esquiro.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The Don Peppine and it has been a long time
since I've had one. And then a local cigar lounge
called Cigar Haven and Fisher's Indiana came upon this with
the red label. I said, I have not seen this.
This is a rebrand of one of their more classic cigars.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
D drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy,
and this is the Don Peppine Garcia e rh Now,
this was the Alrey de los Habanos going back to
two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It was his first cigar.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Made in the US, which is a very very cool
story coming out of Miami now being brought back. It
actually came back in twenty twenty four, but this is
the first time I have seen this. This is a
Toro six by fifty two, which means it's six inches long.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Tee always makes fingers well, I laugh.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And the ring age of fifty two, the diameter of
the cigar, or how thick it is around tee again
with the laughter. A sixty four ring gauge is a
full one inch round. Before I get into the rapper.
Here this Ecuadorian, this Simata Risotto. I think it's Ecuadorian
sumatra risatto. That feels very very good in the hand
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like that. I don't feel like it's too much. I
feel like it's there, it's present. I'm aware of that.
I like this hand feel quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Fingers lore ID two. I was struck by two things
upon lighting this. And we're just into the first third
of the first third of the cigar, Tony, and it
is the half that you're referring to. But then also
how easy to draw is and the amount of smoke
that is coming off of this cigar. Very happy with
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everything so far, so and you're just lighting you on.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I know, I know what's your deal with this? I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Why do I wait till the show starts to light?
I don't I don't have a great answer for that.
I don't actually know. This is an Ecuadorian sumatra a rapper,
so it's a Samatra Risotto rapper. So you see this
on the the La Gloria Kubana siri are, which is
a big, big smoke. You see this on the Ibykreo.
(02:31):
I think we've done this cigar, the La Historia. I
think we've done that cigar, and not too long ago.
We smoke a lot of cigars. Sometimes I do forget
the Rocky Patel nineteen ninety has.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I believe this rapper on it, and so does Alec Bradley.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Bradley the striker Striker, Striker, striker striker, the Persando Persando, Prinsado, Prinsado,
that has this rappers as well. So you've got a
little bit of the red in there. You've got a
nice bit of oil. You can see the leaf, but
it's not overlea vany. It is a big flavor. Got
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definitely got some spice, kind of wrapper fingers. You've been
smoking a little bit more than me. You talk about
the pleasant smoke, What do you get enough?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Well, you already touched on it. There is a nice
bit of spice coming off of this stick as we
first lit it, and then also a nice bit of
cedar as well.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Right, yeah, I'm not getting me. I'd I'm more wood
than I can be. Pick out cedar and I'll go
with you on that. But that is really present on
the tongue, like like tip all the way through the tongue.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's really right there laying down.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You know how I started to get really good at
picking up cedar notes versus generic wood notes. Yes, I
had a really cheap humidor. Okay, first humidor I got right.
I opened it up when I knew I wasn't gonna
use it anymore, and I just started licking it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, that's what I did. Huh, exactly how it went down?
And now cedar just like that. I mean, I take
your word for it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
What's also interesting here is that it's not liquorice, but
there really is this almost tangy note that that's kind
of sticking with it. So the spice is there and
I actually feel it on the lips. That wood is there,
Actually it's on the tongue. And then there is this, Uh.
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The guy's over at Holts, which is a nice place
to get cigars Holts dot com h O L t S.
They talk about it as a niece. I'm like, that's
that's an interesting way.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
To put it.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm sorry, what a niece A n I s it.
Why is it every time we mentioned a big word,
you get scared.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I wouldn't say scared, just inquisitive, Tony. I feel like
part of Ehrink smoke is we all get together and
we enjoy a cigar.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
We also learn a little something.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
So I wanted to make sure I was right, and
I am right because a niece would have kind of
a licorice flavoring to it. Okay, So I don't get
that because I think that would be jarring for me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I'm not a liquorice guy. Twizzlers are not liquorice.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
That they could say all they want, it's not, but
it's so, it's it's there.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
There's something almost.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
If I was talking about food like a new mommy,
like there's a there's a feel going on, but I
can't quite it's it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I would not call it a niece. So there. I
don't know what those guys over there at Holds how
how they got to that one.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'd love to know. If you're listening Holds dot com,
let us know how you got that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
You know, as you've said on several occasions, everybody's palate
is different, and things hit people in different ways. For me,
I am just getting that cedar note and that spice.
For me, it is all over the mouth, between the
cheek and gum, a little pinch, I mean, on the
roof of the mouth, all over.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What's super interesting is that I was spice bomb.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I was expecting almost a red white pepper explosion.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No what I have.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I almost want to call it a little bit of heat,
But you're right, it's everywhere, but it isn't. It isn't
a punch in the face. It's a full coating and.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I think that's a very different kind of experience. Yeah,
that's I believe that's fair to say. I thank god it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
What I'm going to be interested in is, you know
often when we talk about cigars like this where it
has a nice bit of spice at the light, is
if it really does dissipate or we do get used
to it over a period of time.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'm going to bet I will bet money right now.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I have never had the cigar in my life from
Don pepine Garcia. This is the erh you want to
grab as we're doing the Toro the six by fifty two.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I will bet you all.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The money in my pocket versus all the money in
your pocket that this spice is going to be with
us all the way through the smoke.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You want to put money on it, Well, all the
money in my pocket right now? All the money? Do
you accept diners Club? Do I do? I? You better
believe I do.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You want to grab your notebooks right What did you
eat today? What did you drink day? You want to
write all that down in your notebook. This is what
you're smoking the don Papingarcia RH six by fifty two.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What'd you eat today? What did you drink today?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
What is the weather finally cooling down in Indianapolis, Indiana?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
The humidity the whole summer has been humid, suck. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I actually enjoyed a two cigars on the back deck
this week, and that's the first time I've been able
to do that since April.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's been awful. So this has been very nice.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
All those things affect the palette, and you want to
write that down because that way you can kind of
get an idea and then break the cigar up into
thirds first, third, second, third, final third and write down
the flavors you get out of each third.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
What is it that you're getting out of the cigar?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And when you then smoke that cigar a month later,
six months later, whatever it is, you do it again,
compare your notes. That's your through line. That's really what
you're getting out of the cigar. I recommend it highly.
This show is my notebook. That much is for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Also nice.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's not necessarily oily, but it is smoother than one
would expect. It's almost a bit of suede going on
there on the wrapper. It's really nice. The don pepine Garcia,
the e rh Now is it in our humidor Only
time will tell?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And also price might play a huge part in that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Find everything we do at eatrins Smoke show dot com
and don't forget to follow on Instagram at Eating Smoke Podcast.
It's not like we can go a week without a sale.
America needs a sale at all times. There has to
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be something to look forward to with deals, deals, deals.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
What can I do to put you in a deal today?
See drink smoll com.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Tony kounts that is America's favorite amateur drinker fingers with
looy his cigar went out on them amateur. There are
labor labored ideals happening. If I could say, I'd be
really impressive labored ideals. According to the people at Good
Morning America, that's where I go for all of my
labored ideals.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
News.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I could see that because it combines two of your
favorite things, a deal and a good morning.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You are poetry, thank you. First things, First, do you
look for a labored ideal? Is there? Wait? Hold on,
I think you meant that.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yes, absolutely, I've got a couple of things in mind
that I'm going to be looking for as far as
labored ideals go, Like like, what first of all labor Yes,
and a day. Having said that, it's the end of
the official officially, unofficially, Uh, it's really unofficial because it's
(09:59):
not officially the end of summer Labor Day. Everybody kind
of looks at it, not as much as they used
to because apparently kids go back to school in July.
But back in the day, you'd go back to school
the day after Labor Day when you were supposed.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
To exactly the way God intended it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
When you weren't switching your clocks forward and back that
whole thing you started it. But no, there are certain
end of summer deals I'm looking for, Like I've got
a sun room in the new house, I want some
wicker patio furniture.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, just so you know, full disclosure. I despise wicker,
do you why? Okay, maybe it's only me.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Maybe this doesn't happen to other people, but I'm telling
you it does happen to me, and I want you
to know about it. There's the wicker look I don't like.
But there is like a resin kind of wicker that's
like see like outdoor wiker.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You know what I'm talking about. It's like really plastic.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So I used to sell wicker furniture. Oh yeah, no,
I'm serious. Hey, you're the king Wicker. That was Lloyd Flanders.
Is the name of the company, is all right? They
called their product perma wicker. Okay, tell a little bit
about perma wicker.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I maybe it's just me. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
When I touch it, like I'm getting up, I can
use your arms. I feel like I'm getting shocked. Am
I the only person that happens to And I move
and it like I don't know if it catches me
or whatever. It like I'm being shocked. It is the
most uncomfortable, unpleasant experience. And that's why everything in the
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backyard is like made by the Amish last for forever.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I took out an eighth mortgage. Don't care. Wow, you
don't unplug your furniture before you sit in at top it?
Am I the only person this happens to you. Yes,
you are. I've never again.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
When I was in my early twenties, I worked at
a pool and patio store, and I old patio fir.
She sold Lloyd Flanders Lloyd Flanders homecrest furniture as well.
I don't think they're in business anymore in Winston. I
have to look that up and see if they're in
business right outside Saganaw Winston. Yeah, No, where's Winston? Where
is Winston? He was my butler, having said that, I
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thought you said it was in Winston. No, the other
brand name was Winston. Oh, I thought the town was Winston.
Was in sag Sagon. He's pooling, patio and Sagon mission
long since going out of business?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yes, they lost their best salesman, that's true. I also
sold Latex uh. But all the years of being in
the showroom, I never saw anyone sit down in wicker
furniture and say, ouch.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm telling you it happens all. I hate it. I
absolutely positively.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Despised, and they were shocked was when they saw the
deal I could give them on furniture.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
So there are deals. It's so dumb. Mattresses? Is that
a big Labor Day thing? Because I'm I'm in the market.
Are you I am in the market.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I want you to know right now, I will easily
spend twelve million dollars on a mattress if I could
just get some freaking sleep.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I'm in the market too, because I've got a much
smaller bedroom right now in the new house. And going
from a king to a queen. I honestly I don't
even know how you're married. I like, like that would
be instant. It was fun.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So I'm looking into one of those California kings right
where it's kind of King curious, but it's not a
full he a full size king.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
If there was a mattress size called King curious.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh that's why.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What is the one that basically Lenin and John Lennon
Yokohona had Is that called an Alaska like where it's
it's basically a couch?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Oh didn't they sleep in our I don't think theirs
was round, right?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, it wasn't the Queen of Bathsheba. It was it
was it was just a giant. I thought it was
called an Alaska. Oh, you're gonna make me google Las.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
No, you don't have to be Yeah, good morning America.
Say anything about a sale on Alaska.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Bed No, they said that Avocado and Helix and nat
Repedic and Bear Mattress.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I don't even know what any of these brands are.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Low's is gonna have thirty five percent off select appliances
including refrigerators, washers, and dryers.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And the same thing is with home Depot right there.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So you can get a Samsung thirty inch five burner
freestanding smart gas range for seven hundred and ninety eight
dollars down from eleven forty nine.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Wow, by the way, Uh, we're gonna have any drink
smoke flashback flashback. An Alaskan King bed mattress is one
hundred and eight inches by one hundred and eight inches.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So it's a perfect square. Yes, holy, that's huge. Yeah,
should get one of those. Take the whole room, I know. Yeah,
you just walk right from the door right into the bed. Oh,
it's like you're turned your whole bedroom into a fort.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's that's it. Do that, dude. I just want to
see how you get it in the room.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You get it in the house, the room, My goodness, well,
I'm assuming nowadays. Uh, you get the Alaska King bed
in a box and then you open the box. The bed,
you know, immediately gets to full size in like what
thirty seconds, and then the bed stays in there until
(15:36):
you die the house down right?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Oh god, you've done those beds before. Yes, they're great.
That's unbelievable to me. You've never done a box.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We've talked about this before, and all I'm saying is
I've never done it, and I don't think I'm doing
it this.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Are you that picky about a mattress? Like, do you
have to sit back and try out? I've got to
go to a mattress store all the mattresses, dude.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I yes, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry everybody. I
just broke Yes. I need to check this out. I do.
I would. And let me tell you, I've had a
sleep Number bed for years, so why are you in
the market. I just think it's been years. I think
it's it's running. This sleep Number is a lot lower
(16:22):
than it. You say, this sleep number has gotten so old?
Right there?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
How old is it? So push the button and goes anyway.
They are good Labor Day sales. They're they're out there.
I just want to see you going to a mattress
store and say, ShopKeep, where are your Alaskan Kings? And
there is a sale on Ninja air fryers with a
five core capacity for eighty nine ninety nine if you
(16:52):
want to be taken. Although Ninja, I would stand by
that brand every day of the week and twice on Sunday,
so you should get one. I'm not no, No airy
air fryer is a bull crap.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's a lie. It is a scam. Right way to
make a hot dog is the same people who sold
you the pet rock?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
This is just this is not a thing, right, But
Ninja as a brand, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
ShopKeep where do you keep your pet rocks?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Eat Drink Smoke It is your cigar bourbon footy extravaganza.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers well.
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Speaker 2 (18:13):
We're talking about a twenty one day aging process, an
absolutely tender cut of beef. Fingers, you still have yours, right,
you haven't had a chance yet. There were strip steaks eight,
those ribbis eight, those tenderloin eight that I still have
a brisket that we have to make, and the ground
beef made spectacular meatballs.
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I'm telling you you are going to love it.
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I'm not paying that price anymore. Good for you, Thank
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are smoking from Peppine. I believe it is Peppin, although
(19:12):
I've never actually I've heard it both ways. It's one
of those things where in the moment you're like, I
should ask, and then I always forget to ask.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
This is the Don pepine Garcia. This is the E
R H. So.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
This is a rebrand of a cigar that was the
first cigar he made and coming to in in in
the US when they were they're based in Miami, I
believe in two thousand and five, and this came back.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
This is the Toro six by fifty two with that
Ecuadorian sumatra samata rosato a wrapper right there there is spice.
There is that that would cedar for fingers would for me,
this little bit of what is that other thing that
I haven't been able to put my finger on, But
so far I'll give you the call on this one.
(19:57):
The draw is exceptional, the the hand feel is terrific.
The spice does not overwhelm, which I wasn't expecting fingers.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I am very happy with the smoke. I am as well.
For me.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Listen that whether that spice I've gotten used to it
or it has subsided a little, I don't know the
answer to that other than it's not hitting me like
it did in the first third. But it's still there
and it's still nice, and that cedar is still there.
I'm not getting much else off of this cigar right now.
I'm not getting any kind of sweetness? Am I getting
(20:32):
anything about? You know a third note that you were
talking about? But having said that, it's been wonderful. The
draw continues to be a salad. It's been a low
maintenance stick. Very happy with a cigar.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Where I think I differ is that I do think
that there is you know, I keep talking about it's
like tangy, there is a little undercurrent of sweet. It's
not vanilla, it's not nutty, it's not creamy. It's it's
not those things that we would normally talk about it.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I'm not that's not it. It's just there, is it? Earth?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Cocoa coffee? Something is happening And I called it tanging before.
It's kind of morphed a little bit. I just don't
know what that is yet, but we may get there
and it could be what you're pairing it with. Well,
I've got die coke. Oh, I've got die coke in here.
I'm not doing a coffee in this one.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And you're I think you're just water ice water, right,
which is also what's in my veins.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's a tough guy.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Fingers boy. Yes, this is the don vaping garcia e
r H Toro.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Is this in your humidor?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
For nine dollars and fifty cents stop it absolutely all day?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yes, the end, the end.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And I'm telling you that I really do not. I'm
not a natural spicy cigar smoker. It's not where I
live and breathe. It's not what I like. I I
like coffees, I like cocoats, I like leathers, I like Earth's.
I love that nutty cream that we often talk about.
This is very nice this. You could now I.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Should take it back.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
If you're somebody who'd ex spice, you could do this
on the daily. If you're somebody who can appreciate it, yeah,
you can do this once or twice a week at
nine dollars and fifty cents.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
All day.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
A bargain, quite literally a bargain at this price. And
with the construction solid man, we did a straight cut
on this. I wonder if somebody did a punch on this,
how intense that would be interesting, Like if you really
wanted to build that up. Let me know if you
do that, just just send us a send us an
(22:48):
email Fingers at etrinksmokeshow dot com. Fingers is in charge
of all emails right there. This is very very nice,
but it's time fingers a ratio malloy.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
For news of the week, Tony, Oh god, why would
you start it like that.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I'm shocked. You may have a new coke marketing disaster
in twenty twenty five, and it has to do with
Cracker Barrel. People are very upset and this they're stock
tanked after Cracker Barrel unveiled a new controversial logo. Your thoughts,
Tony on the new logo, which it takes some of
(23:24):
that charm away from the old Country store restaurant. It
just says cracker barrel. There's nothing, there's no illustrational image, nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I want to say for.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
The record, First, if you don't know, the cracker barrel
logo had a guy sitting in a rocking chair. You know,
they got the rocking chairs out front there of the
cracker barrel. And then it had a barrel because you know,
cracker barrel. And then it said cracker barrel, and then
it said old something store, Old country store, Old country store.
They got rid of everything else except the cracker barrel.
(23:55):
Same colors, same everything else says cracker brow. And there
is is a social media outrage. Good thing Fingers molloy
monitors social media outrage.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Passion of mine to monitor social media outrage.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
That that's what he's been doing, monitoring the social media outrage.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And I'm here to tell you. Okay, oh remember remember
you're about to create more social media outragern cursed SnO, cursed. Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Everybody on social media is a blanke and moron, an
absolute schmuck, every single influencer.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You won't believe what cracker barrel did. You don't care
what Cracker Barrel did.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
It's a freaking logo, Readers, they didn't make it look
like Jaguar. It's the same colors, it's the same font.
There's nothing to this story. You're not outraged, You're just
begging for a click. Why don't you just create interesting
content and maybe somebody will show up? You absolute freaks.
(24:58):
Go play some Chinese checkers in Cracker Barrel. Cracker so
they got the game. You don't care about the logo.
What you care is that eleven thirty at night when
you tried to check into that motel whatever it was,
and you realize that somebody was murdered in there. You're
going to have yourself a lovely meal so you can
do the five hours left that you have on your
(25:18):
drive that you thought you were just too tired to do.
Thank goodness, Cracker Barrel is there for you to get
you some eggs and potatoes and maybe a little bit
of bacon. You don't care about the logo. You never
cared about the logo. These people fingers will only. These
people are terrible And I'm telling you right now we
need to open up.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
The jails to let these people in. Wow. Now, ask
me what I think of the TSA. I'm more disgusted
with these people that I am the TSA.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I will say this, first of all, I really don't
care about the logo, Thank you very Having said that,
the new logo looks like something that would be on
a block of cheese.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Sure, isn't that what? You don't have a cheese on
a cracker? You know where you get the cracker from
a barrel. It all fits.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So this is something that I'm posing this question and
I wouldn't have thought it until this whole outrage thing happened.
And you may be correct, maybe it's just a bunch
of people outrage mining and nobody really cares.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
No one cares at all.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
But if you are a person that lives a cracker
barrel lifestyle where you need all the cracker barrel merch
you can get your hands on, and they change the
logo on you, and you loved that logo for a
long time, and you had a passion for the cracker
barrel logo while you were living your cracker barrel lifestyle,
I could see where that would be a jolt to
(26:44):
not only your lifestyle, but really your whole belief system.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
By the way. The stock didn't tank. It went down.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Three Bucks tanked, It didn't tank. These people are ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You won't believe what happened after that. Be sure to
tune in for Finger's reaction video.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Check that out on the YouTube. If you didn't know
by now, Fingers malloy is a joyless man.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
That's not true. That's true. That's not true. It's not true.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Every time you and I get ready to do eat
drink smoke, I look at you and the first thing
I say to you is got joy.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, it's not. That's not what happens.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's eat drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is America's
favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
We we do when we when we get together, it's
good see each other.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You know, we talk of course through the.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Week, but when we get together, there's usually just a
moment of is everybody really this terrible? And the answer
comes back yes, yes, And it usually starts with a
conversation about how nobody knows how to do their job anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
You're not kidding, No, you're not kidding. It's this constant,
constant thing.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And so there's this list because there's always a list
with us that eat, drink smoke from vegout mag dot com.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
This is not real you you created this in your
spare time. No, it's not That's not true at all.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Vegout mag dot veg outmag dot com is where I
go to find joy.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So Fingers finds an article fifteen subtle habits of people
who become increasingly joyless as they age, and habit number one,
turning small annoyances into a worldview that's us.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yes, absolutely, I had a scar on my hands, so
I couldn't applaud.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Is that more you than me?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Or is that in different ways equal? It's equal? Oh,
there's I will I will say something like I had
terrible service at a gas station. I go there and
the hot dog roller is rolling, and yet there are
no hot dogs on the roller, And I'll say, everybody's
(29:14):
terrible at their job.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Right. Let me give you the three examples this list gives.
A delayed train becomes the city is broken, Well, the
city has broken.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
A rude waiter becomes people don't have manners anymore?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Were they really don't have any manners? Any tech becomes
everything's going downhill? Ain't that the truth?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
This is the most accurate thing I've ever read of
my entire life.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
You didn't you didn't see that. The author of this
piece is named Fingers Maloy.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I swear to you for the past year longer longer, uh,
I would say, three times a month when we get
together do the show, Fingers Mloi says to me, everybody's
terrible at their job. And I've gotten to the point
where I don't ask, like what happens, because I don't
(30:04):
want to know. It's just it must be said in
order to have the soul cleansing experience that is eating
smoking being part of eating smoke nation.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And then he's fine for at least two.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And a half hours, May I say you can. When
this theme started about a year and a half ago,
of me saying everyone is terrible at their job, you
would say to me, Fingers, that's ridiculous. Eighty percent of
people know exactly what they're doing at their job. And
then slowly, over the past year and a half, I've
been chipping away at that number, and now he's right
along with me where he says everybody's terrible at their job.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Not everybody is terrible at their job, but my god,
a lot of people are terrible at their job, not
a lot of people are very bad, and it's because
the very concept of the standard has been eliminated and
there is no consequence for being bad at the job.
There's just the thankfulness that somebody is there to stand
(30:57):
in the uniform and do the basic of approval or disapproval.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Do you think also it's because there's less pride in
one's work, because in twenty twenty five, a lot of
people are at their job now instead of their career.
So there's less pride in it because it's just a
job and it's just I'm just punching a clock, and
I don't look at it as a career.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, that's interesting, But I do ascribe to the
theory that there are no small parts, just small actors.
That the role that you play, the job that you have,
has to be done to a level I have tried
in my own children. Don't do the job as if
someone's watching. It doesn't matter if they're watching. Do the
(31:44):
job as it needs to be done, whether it's long work,
whether it's cleaning your room, or whether it's going to work.
Early is on time and on time is late. If
you can't live by that, you're not going to have success.
So maybe you're right. Maybe my viewpoint is to some
antiquated and to some rare and some valuable, but it
(32:07):
certainly is not.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Mainstreams right now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Maybe maybe you have a point that they see it
as this temporary thing that fills the hours until they
can doom scroll again on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I don't. I don't know if that's the case, but
it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And and now we have people who are filled with joy,
who have made careers out of doom, scrolling on their
on their phones.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
On on the on the list of uh, I'm growing
my past. That fifteen subtle habits that people who become
increasingly joyless as they age, collecting grievances like souvenirs.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That was you rubbing your hands, Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Like hot dignity. It's my topic. This is where I
got my doctorate. Nobody loves holding a grudge quite like me.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Are you a grudge holding? Do you hold any grudges
against me? Not yet? But today he's still young. Oh, okay,
I'll make it happen. Uh. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh, I have a whole ledger of people who have
wronged me. Oh, it's all right, list, it's all on
a second, I've got a list. That's I thought that
was different. What does it mean to you to hold
a grudge? What is that actually?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Like?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Usually for me, it is when I'm holding a grudge
against someone, it is completely ignoring them when they walk
into a room and then do what everybody else does
and talk behind their back. That's not just being bitchy.
Well that's part of holding a grudge, is to be bitchy.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, but I thought like, like holding a grudge was
I'm not talking.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
To you you know what you did?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Oh see, but that would involve actually having a uh
some sort of a conversation with you.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
See that's why I don't think you're holding a grudge.
You're just happy they did something horrific so you never
have to talk to them again because you didn't want
to talk to them.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
In the first place. Oh, there is that they're doing
you a favor.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Why not just say thanks, chum and go about your business.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
See that's what I like about you. You're a glass
half full kind of guy, always have been.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Also on the list of making a joyless outsourcing your
mood to screens.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
There's nothing wrong with scrolling says veg out mag where
do you find how did you find this? How did
you find this?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
So, for those that don't know, eighty five percent of
the story is done in ea hrink smoke are things
that I find. I do a lot of the show prep,
and so I go to the Google News for some
of my stuff, and they actually have a little tap
that says for you and veg out mads, here's a
story from vege out bag about people being joyless that
(34:51):
seems to me right down your alley figures tell you.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I've never done Google News ever in my life. Oh
all the show prep I've done for radio shows, the
local Indianapolis show, the nationally syndicated show TV stuff, I've.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Never gone to Google News ever once. Never ever? Wow,
where do you go? I go to ask jeeves. There
it is.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
While there's nothing wrong with scrolling, the trap is letting
your phone decide how you'll feel for the next forty
five minutes. Algorithms don't care if you leave happy or heavy.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
If you start.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Most mornings and end most nights inside someone else's feed,
you've handed your joy the keys and asked it to
wait outside.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Wait a minute, my Joy can handle keys. This article
has taken my joy. It makes me the writing it
makes me want to veg out the right You're one more,
one more making meaning a solo sport, and I'm like,
(35:51):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
People who drift into joylessness often did a lot alone
for a long time, solve problems, carried burdens, kept secret,
Independence becomes identity. The quiet ship back to joy starts
with letting someone stand next to you while you do
your life.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
It since like being a guy.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
You take all of your problems right, all of your burdens,
You keep them a secret, and you cram them deep
down inside of you and not share them with anyone. Right,
you just sit in a room alone, doom scrolling on
your phone.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
That's is that the dream? God bless America.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
By the way, the doomscrolling is just pure evil. That
is the thing that has to stop. You have no
idea how much of your life is missing just by
just doing that.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You're right, I should be watching more TV. Good point,
very good point.
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