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November 23, 2025 37 mins

Step into the world of premium cigars without breaking the bank. Tony Katz and Fingers Malloy explore the La Aurora 1903 Cameroon Toro, a hidden gem that delivers exceptional quality at just $7.20. This episode takes you on a flavorful journey through this 5¾ x 54 cigar, with its Dominican and Nicaraguan fillers wrapped in that distinctive Cameroon leaf that Tony can't resist.

The guys unpack what makes this cigar special - from its clean start that builds to more complex leather and cedar notes, to its excellent construction and burn. While debating the merits of American cheese in grilled sandwiches and lamenting Target's new forced greeting policy, they keep returning to what matters most: a cigar that delivers remarkable value without sacrificing quality.

Key Takeaways:
Introduction to the La Aurora 1903 Cameroon Toro
Initial flavor impressions: wood notes, clean smoke, subtle spice
Discussion of cigar journaling and tasting techniques
Mid-smoke review: leather notes, nutty flavors developing
Final verdict: exceptional value at $7.20, perfect for everyday smoking
News of the week: government shutdown ends, Jack Daniel's releases 3-liter bottles

Whether you're a seasoned aficionado or just curious about affordable premium cigars, this La Aurora offering deserves a spot in your humidor. With its subtle complexity and excellent construction, it proves you don't need to spend big to enjoy a quality smoking experience. Grab one and smoke along with Tony and Fingers to discover why this Cameroon-wrapped beauty might become your new everyday favorite.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, I, ladies and gentlemen, am a sucker for a
Cameroon wrapper, always have been. I don't know really what
it is about the Cameroon that I like so very much.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's just it just works for me.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
And so I was searching for some low cost, high
yield cigars.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yes, even I do from time to time pay attention
to price.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's eat, drink, smoke.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker.
Fingers moloy and this from La Aurora is the nineteen
o three Cameroon Toro. This is a five and three
quarter by fifty four, which means it's five and three
quarter inches long. Tea always makes fingers with oy laugh.
And the ring gauge is a fifty four. That's a
diameter of the cigar, or how thick it is around

(00:47):
Tea again with the laughter. So a sixty four ring
gauge would be a full one inch around. This is
probably top of the markt where I like to be.
Not probably, this is top of the mark wherever I
like to be in.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Terms of a cigar. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
This has a really monotone type of color to it,
in a darker brown. It's got a little bit of
swaying going on on that field. I don't think I
would call that oily. Although it does have a touch
of oil.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's more swede.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You can feel more of a of a velvety touch
as opposed to let's say, a grittiness on this finger's
velvety touch. By the way, was my debut album and
it was fantastic. It featured a young Bert Backrack. Wow,
that's that's dating me. I almost went with Burl eyes
see now.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
That would have made me feel more comfortable, even though
Burl is actually quite much I think he's about a
lot older.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I think they're both dead. Oh did anybody tell them?
Did anybody tell America?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's right? Where are the shadow that makes fun of
Burt Backrack?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
We're going to hell?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Huh fingers, what do you you started already smoking? I'm
just gonna light this up right now.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
So first of all, there's quite a bit of haft
for this cigar, for the size that it is. I
thought it would be a little lighter, which lends to
a better hand feel in my mind. Just lit this
up really, maybe a little bit of wood, maybe a
hint of nuttiness, and that's about it. I'm not getting
any kind of pepper at this point, no coffee, no chocolate.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
It's so far, so good.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Especially my impression of this cigar maybe a little bit
influenced right away because Tony told me ahead of time
how much it is. So I'm trying to I'm trying
to let that not influence how I feel about the cigar.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
But that's what I'm getting so far.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
So La Aurora does a lot of nice pieces, I think,
and you know, perception is everything, and if you were
to take a look at some of the listing of
La Aurora, some of the Churchills they do, some of
the tubos that they've got together, they've got some nice pieces.

(03:05):
I think more people know the one oh seven series
from them. I just don't think that La Aurora as
a name is in the same pantheon is where people put, oh,
that's a nice cigar, and that's that's a shame in
that the whole thing about the name the brand is

(03:28):
that's not true. What is good is what you like,
and without trying things, you're never ever going to know.
I got to this because I wanted a Cameroon. I
wanted something like this in my humidor, and I ended
up buying a box.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, I bought.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I just said yes, please, and I will take that
fight unseen never had one before. I think I have,
But I can't tell you when I don't think we've
ever reviewed this cigar. I didn't go back and double
check and triple check. We've been doing this for six years.
There comes a moment where you can't remember everything Episode
eighty four, Actually, is that right? No?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
I just made that up.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Nicely done, thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
But I trust the brand enough and I'm like, I'll
absolutely give this a go. The cedar note that would
note you're talking about is absolutely true. What there isn't
is a harshness. Also, the cigar is not actually, at
this moment tobacco forward.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's actually a bit of a clean smoke.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
That little bit of spice that exists on the tongue there,
and there's kind of a kind of a feel towards
the back of the throat, which you can describe as
a little bit of leather.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
So there's this and also that can be seen as
a spice. There's a there.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Sometimes if you don't get leather, but do you get spice,
you're in the same kind of place and always by
the way, you can get different flavors. And that's what
the hell do we know? Honestly, what the hell does
anybody really and truly know?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Do you like it? Or do you not?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
La Aurora the nineteen oh three Cameron Toro five and
three quarter by fifty four? Get your notebooks out? What
did you eat today? What did you drink today? Should
we play America's favorite game? What af fingers Molly eat today?
Do you really want to know?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Is it that bad?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's pretty bad?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I will play it later. Okay, that's called the teas.
Ladies and gentlemen wait to hear this. You won't believe
he's still alive. It's the question we've always been asking.
So get your note but got what'd you eat today?
Would you drink today? The weather we've got freezing cold
in Indianapolis, finally seeing some nicer weather now. We went
from snow to sixty degrees in like an hour.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
So I took Fingers Moy Senior back up to Saginaw, Michigan,
his old stomping grounds over the weekend. And I was
returning home Sunday and drove through six inches of snow.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
It was absolutely.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Crazy, because you know, earlier in the week he was
talking sixty eight degrees then six inches six inches of snow,
just like that, just like what, just like that, Like
there you go.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Just making sure we can both do that. I just
wasn't sure. I thought maybe Fingers was having a problem.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
You know, if we lost a snapping fingers, we've got
a serious problem.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
And then you take the cigar.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Take the cigar and break into thirds in your mind,
first third, second, third, final third.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
What'd you eat today?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Write it down? What do you drink today? Write it down,
affects your pallette, the weather can affect your palette. And
then break the cigar in the thirds and write down
the flavors you get from each third of the cigar.
Doesn't matter, how esoteric doesn't matter, how basic, doesn't matter.
When you try the cigar a month from now, six
months from now, whatever it is, you go back and
you check your notes, and that's your through line, right, oh,
this is what I got, This is what I got,
And then you're able to talk about that cigar. And also, okay,

(06:26):
there's a cameroon wrapper with the cigar, and now I
know what that is. I will the fillers Dominican and
Nica Roguin. The binder is an Ecuadorian Sumatra. According to
the guys at Developing Palettes. I'll trust them on that one,
so you'll be able to be like, ooh, I like
that kind of flavor.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I wonder what other cigars have that.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's how I found myself so attracted to the Cameroon rap.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
So I've had people ask me Tony, how big is
Tony's notebook?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
My notebook is six years of this show. There it is.
I mean it is, it's six years of this show.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's it's you. But I do go back.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I am actually I'm glad you brought that up, because
as we do the show, I don't have a notebook
in front of me.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I have started the process of going back to the.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Beginning and writing it down and every one of those cigars,
because I've had them more and once, Where am I
at it? What am I doing with it? What do
I think of it? And also it's not about the
size of the notebook there it.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Is, it's how you use it. Having said that, no,
you can get a bunch of smaller notebooks.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
That's what I was gonna say. No, thank you.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
I've always been impressed at your recall when it comes
to cigars you've had in the past, your experience with them.
I've always said that I'm a fan of cigars, cigars,
but I don't have the passion that you have for them.
You really really not only you know, sit back and
enjoy a cigar. You want to know more about the cigar.

(08:00):
You want to know you know more about the company
that makes the cigar. I've always been impressed with that.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, that that's kind I've I've always been impressed with
your ability to show up on time.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
And I do that eighty three percent of the time.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
By the way, if if going back to the last
time we did La Aurora the ordage, is the last
La Aurora that that we did?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Now?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Is this in our humid or is the question a
great question which I cannot answer for you just yet?
We've just started smoking us the Law Aurora Cameroon. Grab
one smoke along with us grilled cheese, Ladies and gentlemen.
I'm looking for a cigar that tastes like grilled cheese.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
If you expect me to throw something out there that
will make that make sense, I'm I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I have nothing. If I eat the grilled cheese, then
my cigar might taste like grilled cheese. I guess the
point is in the mood for a grilled cheese.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Sea drinks, well, come Tony Katz, and that is America's
favorite amateur drinker.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Fingers myloy.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
By the way, I was going back and just making
sure we did the La Aurora ortage in March. I
just see, that's how long we ween doing this.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I did forget.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Oh, I thought you would remember that. I remember the cigar.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I don't remember that it was. That's all blending together.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Oh it was in March.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
You're an idiot.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
It was a simpler time, oddly enough, Yes, really, really
really was.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
There was a.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Survey done of Americans regarding grilled cheese.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
How they like it now.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
In a weird way, this is fascinating because you know.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
We think of brisket, we think of barbecue is as
very very specific and specific to region. If you read
our book Let's Go Barbecue, all these different areas and
and how they engage different types of sauces Alabama white sauce,
for example. Things like that. You can find it at
Amazon dot com. Let's Go Bbq Recipes tips and tails

(10:10):
from the pit. But it is true that people do
grilled cheese in all different ways, starting with not even
just the basic the cheese, but the bread. Fingers, molloy,
you make a grilled cheese sandwich at home, what's the bread?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Whatever's in the pantry.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Okay, so you're not specific, No, But if I were
to choose, if you said, grab a loaf of bread,
we're making grilled cheese, sour dough.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Fine pick, fine pick, you wouldn't just go with basic white.
You wouldn't go with a rye. You wouldn't go with
a holla halla close.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Oh no, I would. If you had rye right there,
I would. I would definitely try a rye.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
So what we have just done, Fingers, boy, is we
have started a fight in homes all across America right now.
People are arguing about what bread to use, and that
has led to people actually stabbing each other.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Stop doing that. It's just a grilled.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Cheese and the correct answered for some is whole wheat.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, whatever you do to those people, it's fine by us.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
But don't you feel like the grilled cheese sandwich is
an afterthought when you were planning your menu for the
week for the fam. Does anyone say, you know what
Tuesday night is? Grilled cheese sandwich night? Well, Tuesday night
is taco night. That's why they call it Taco Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Fair enough, But you.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Might think of grilled cheese and tomato soup, especially with
winter here. Except for all the good people in Texas
who have wonderful weather, the rest of us grilled cheese,
tomato soup.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
You don't like tomato soup.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
No, it has tomatoes in it. Fan, I don't even understand.
So they did a.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Little comparison here, survey of five thousand people ideal grilled cheese.
So when asked about the combo, what kind of cheese
is forty four cheddar? Forty percent American cheese, And in
that moment I realized that forty four percent of America
are a bunch of morons. Wow, morons. I'm not even

(12:20):
gonna be kind of about. Of course it's American cheese.
Of course it's American cheese, and preferably something you unwrap
from plastic. It should be the kind of American cheese
that you could utilize to fill a hole in your
wall instead of spackle that kind of cheese.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Are you talking the kind of cheese that comes in
a cardboard box.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
It should only come in a cardboard box.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I I bareshad American cheese ninety nine times out of
one hundred.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's what we're buying here. What?

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Nothing? What? I was just about to pat you on
the back.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
What and say, wow, I thought you were gonna be
an elitist by saying the only cheese that you have
in a grilled cheese is smokes guda. I thought that's
what was gonna happen. You're like, no American cheese.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
And then you go boar's head.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yes, not a savage.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Boar's head, or makes a fine product. I'm not disparaging
the fine.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
The boar's head people boys said, mafia they're coming.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yes, that's true, but one pound of boar's head cheese,
correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Sixty two dollars.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
That is accurate and honestly well worth it. But it
could be craft. You were talking about the cardboard velveta,
and I'd be a no.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
On belvida from my grilled cheese. That would not be right.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
So if that's if you're incorporating multiple cheese, the combo
is cheddar and American I don't understand that. I think
it's just American cheese. I don't combo my cheese and
a grilled cheese.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
I only combo it when I open up of the
cheese tray in my refrigerator and there are two different
kinds of cheeses, and there's not enough for one sandwich
by using just one of them. So I just throw
a bunch of cheese mystery cheese sandwich. And then came
the bread choice. Forty three said white bread. Now the

(14:20):
question is how do you cut it? How do you
cut your grilled cheese sandwich? Fingers, Willy, you don't.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
What are you cutting your sandwich for?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's gone?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
How big is your bread? What's going on here?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
You really don't cut a grilled cheese.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Don't cut of any sandwich.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
By the way, the average American adult, according to Pepper's Farm,
eats thirty six grilled cheese sandwiches a year.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
True or false. That's that's true. That's totally insane.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
No one is eating thirty six grilled cheese sandwiches except
for your.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Eight year old.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, they said the average American. Some may only have
eight in a year. Some may have one hundred and
seven I don't think I've had a grilled cheese sandwich
this year.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, but I'm having one tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Forty eight percent of Americans say you cut it into triangles.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I believe that is accurate. I believe that's the way
people do it. They do it. On the angle of surprise,
it's only forty eight percent.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
By the way, white bread wins out with forty three percent,
followed by sourdough at twenty four percent.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well, the cutting it in triangles makes you feel like
you got a bigger sandwich.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I think it's because it's easier for the dipping. Oh
there's that too, right, dipping into the tomato soup.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
No, dipping it into fruit loops? What exactly you dip
your grilled cheese sandwich into your cereal?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
I would if it were grape notts, so it would
finally give it some flavor.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I think the moral right here is that it is
one of those foods that you that to your point,
you're never thinking about. It's never on the menu, and
then you hear it, you're like, oh, that sounds awesome
to me.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
It is very much a meal of oh crap, we
forgot to go to the grocery store today. Oh, we
got some bread and cheese. Let's throw together some grilled
cheese sandwich and then you eat it and everybody's happy.
Would you say, Tony, it's good comfort food?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Would you say it like that? I can't and I
want you so badly. Yes, it's very good comfort food.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
You know, it's very good with with a grilled cheese sandwiches,
Boar's head, tomato soup.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
They don't wait, hold on, do they make tomato soup? No? Seven?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Boar's head if you can afford it, eat well. It
comes in a crystal vase. Bores head is great and
they make a great sponsor of eatdrink, smoke.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Not that. What what do you get?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
What do you get, mister mock me for being an elitist?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
I can't grocery store.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Great value American cheese from Walmart where I get my
cheese and motor oil.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Wow, have we insulted everybody?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
You are?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
We are really unrolled. Good on us, eat, drink, smoke.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
It is your cigar bourbon FOODI extravaganza.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm Tony kats that right. There is fingers maloy, and
I want.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
To be perfectly clear whether you eat Boar's head or
whether you buy from Walmart. You're welcome here at Eat, Drink,
Smoke Nation. I'm sorry Fingers Maloya is such an elitist
snob that he thinks some of you shouldn't be here.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Fingers is sometimes terrible. We'll deal with him.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Later appropriately, probably involving a large stick. But until that
moment happens, thank you for being a part of Eat, Drink,
Smoke Nation, and just remember we love you.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
And while you're sleeping, we're watching. That was a message
from every Man Tony Cats.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
That's what they call me. Every Man Tony said, no one.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Ever smoking the law Aurora, nineteen.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
O three, Cameroon, Toro. This is five and three quarters
by fifty four. What I like about this cigar, because
I have already smoked a few of these.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Is that it starts off clean.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It does. It starts kind of off, kind of nondescript.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
That little bit of spice that Fingers talking about, that
would that Fingers was talking about, which I would definitely
call a cedar. I think that as it hits the
back of the tongue to the bit of the throat,
there it becomes a leather. And if you can equate
the smell of fresh leather to a taste. That's the
way I would do it. I think that this cigar

(18:51):
builds out nicely. I think that we're still in the
first third, but I'm already in a place where, you
know what, it's probably playing more towards the full size,
full side, right, it's a fuller cigar. But I don't
feel that I'm overwhelmed. Interestingly, the flavor is in the
tongue and in the throat, not in the cheek. There's
nothing really happening in there. But I like it. I

(19:14):
think it smokes nice. I think it's smoking easy. I
haven't had to touch it up all that much. That
I that I recall. Sometimes I touch it up out
of habit as opposed to need. Right, That sometimes happens.
But I think it's playing very, very nice. I think
it's very attractive.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, I would agree with you. I'm not really getting
much of a spice for me. It's that the wood
notes you mentioned leather. I could see that. I you know,
it's really strange. I feel like it's almost like a
walnut for a nutty. If I was really gonna get
specific about it, really, yeah, that's where I would go.
But it's been it's been great so far. I haven't

(19:50):
had to really touch it up all that much. The
hand feel we talked about that earlier is great so far.
I'm really really happy.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Fingers Will LOWI the La Aurora nineteen oh three Cameroon.
Is this in your humid or for seven dollars and
twenty cents? Yes, guys, absolutely, Now this is not perfectly
my flavor profile.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
But at seven.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Bucks all day long, no, no question none, there's just
a lot of good things happening here. Maybe I would
prefer more of a coffee note. Maybe I like a
little bit more of a chocolate note, maybe even malty
things like that that not every cigar is that thing

(20:39):
for a little bit of spice, that little bit of wood,
just a pleasantness of a tobacco that isn't too forward.
Hell yeah, all day golf course, work you around the
house while you're grilling in fall weather. So if you
have to put it down, you don't feel bad about it,
no question.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
And just as I said, I didn't have to touch
it up. I just had to touch it up. But
I agree with you're saying what you're saying. Also, you
know all these notes that we're talking about everything's really subtle.
Nothing is really hammering you. I could see starting your
day with this, could you really?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh yeah, absolutely, you don't think that that's a little spicier.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm not getting that. So you really are denoting a
difference between the wood and the idea. Yeah, I'm not
getting anything like that. But that's just me.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Everyone hits their palette differently, but this to me, for me,
especially at that price point, could be an everyday cigar.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh sure, oh sure.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
The only thing I would say is that I would
love to try this in a fifty ring gage.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I would love this so I had.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
A different ratio of rapper to binder and filler because
I love the camera and wrapper and I love what
that has to offer, which usually has a more of
a toothiness to it, which this does not in the wrapper,
which is interesting. I would like to have that ratio
a little bit more. This is a fifty four ring gage.
Is part of the reason why it's not even more

(22:13):
for me in terms of enjoyball though. I think it's
it's really good. I think it's solid. I think it's
working terrifically for exactly what it is. I if I
could get this in a fifty by five and three quarter, I'd.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Be a happy man. I'd be a happy happy man.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, this is in the human or for sure it's
time fingers moy for news of the week.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Is it really?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Wow? Shutdowns over?

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Everybody's getting paants wonderful singing. Let's start with that Trump,
President Trump. Excuse me, I was just reading the headline
from the Wall Street Journal says Trump President Trump signed
the spending bill, ending the longest shutdown in the United
States history.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, now.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
You understand the Fingers and I come from political backgrounds,
political talk radio, we have you name them. We've done
the interview, We've had the chance to consult with people,
we have been at the conferences, we've been at the places,
we have been padded down by Secret Service.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, and they've smoked a cigarette afterwards.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
We do eat drink smoke to get away from all that.
We do eat drink smoke to avoid the politics. So
if you're looking for a political take on the shutdown,
that isn't what we're bringing you today. Rather, there is
a larger question that could be asked, and I think
it's the question being asked by America, which is of

(23:40):
course What the hell was the point of all this?
What was the point of all this? It was a
continuing resolution forty two days of people not getting paid
of then a question of course of snap benefits, right
supplemental nutritional supplemental Nutrition Assistance Plan benefits, food stamps not
going out, and they signed the continuing resolution that was

(24:03):
there forty two days ago.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
What was the point of all this? Fingers boy?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Why why put America through this exercise? It's all politics,
is it not.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean, we don't have to get into what the
politics were about, but it's all politics.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
So I want to make sure what we're saying, because
when we're saying all politics, what we're saying is one
group of people saw an opportunity for power, and another
group of people saw an opportunity not to have to
agree to their push for power.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, And by the way, that could go other ways
with other parties and other times and all that jazz.
At what moment do Americans say, my god, are we
tired of your crap or is it immediately forgotten about
because they're on to the next Oh my gosh, the
worst thing in the world that's just happened thing, And

(24:58):
getting people to try and change their minds.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I think you just answered your question with that answer,
and it's that it's listen. I think in a lot
of ways, the American people have been like this previously.
Before social media, they would move on relatively quickly. But
now in the social media age, there's a new thing
to be outraged over this morning, and they move on

(25:21):
to the next outrage. And then you've got one group
of people who are outraged, you've got another group of
people who are saying it's a big nothing burger. Doesn't
matter the tough topic, doesn't matter which side of the
political aisle you're on. It's just this constant bickering back
and forth until one day it all comes to blows
and we have a water balloon fight.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I swear to you if we solved our problems Aaron
Burr Alexander Hamilton water balloon style.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
First of all, the pay per view alone, the pay per.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
View alone, that we could get to see Ted Cruz
going up against Elizabeth Warren in a water fight.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I would pay cash, cash, take my money. Well, what
you could do while you're watching it.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Part of News of the Week also is Jack Daniels
for the first time in over one hundred years, will
now be selling three liter bottles of Old number seven.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Where Costco? Do I get this?

Speaker 4 (26:23):
I don't believe it's just at Costco. You may be
able to get it at your own liquor store, your
your favorite liquor store. It will be seventy nine dollars
and ninety nine cents for a three liter bottle A
three lider jack yep, be able to get you through
the next shutdown, right, because.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Only one three liter bottle of jack is gonna be
needed for another forty two day shutdown. I that's overkill.
I mean maybe if you're a bar, that's overkill.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Sure, that's overkilled. Winky winky winky winky winky winky. So
over there at Target, the people in the.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Red Shirts are very unhappy because there is a new
forced greeting policy t rink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's
Fingers Biloy. I find it all at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com.
We have a forced greeting policy here at Eat Rink
Smoke where Fingers MOII shows up to the studio and
I say, what took you so long? And he says,

(27:26):
why don't you shut it?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
It's like you just got a behind the scenes look
at eat rink smoke.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
They have a program at Target called the ten four program,
as in ten four good buddy.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Oh no, this sounds terrible.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
It forces employees to engage with customers. More no, employees
within ten feet of a customer are required to wait
for it.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
These are fingers Willoy's favorite things.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Smile, go on, cho everybody, Hi, you smile, make eye contact, wave,
and use friendly, approachable and welcoming body language. How's it going, cowboy?
Oh my gosh, I'm shopping a kmart. There are no

(28:14):
more kmarts. I would build one to get away from
what it is you just did. Any staff within a
four foot radius of a shopper must also personally greet
the customer and initiate a warm, helpful reaction. No, no,
you got it wrong. Target, How many more ways can
you screw this up? How many more ways Target can

(28:37):
America say? By the way, I just touched up my
cigar for the first time, I think the first time?
How much many more more ways Target can can can
America say to.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
You, all we want you to do is sell us
cheap T shirts.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
We don't you know what when you have the Starbucks
in there. All right, Fine, we treat ourselves, but we
don't need anything else really, Right if when we get
to the checkout, the cashier says, hey, thanks for being here.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Anything else you need? Right?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's always nice? But you want me while I'm looking
for whatever new gift craze. It is my eight year
old ones and I don't know how to find it.
I barely can understand it. All I know is when
I find it's gonna cost me two hundred and eighty
two dollars.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
You think I want the.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Person who's stalking the shelves having people scream at them
all day.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I want them to pretend to be like, hey, how
you doing, Really glad you're here? What can I help you?

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Whip? That's what I assume they sound like Bobcat Golthwait.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Right, it was a little Bobcat Goldwait and a little
Maurice Chevollier.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Oh had at a bit of sophistication.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Nobody wants this. We want pleasant, we don't want forced.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
It's very much like Robert Stack walking through the airport
on an airplane. I'm just trying to get to the
deli meats Joys.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
We'd like to hear the flower.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Oh my god, I'm not interested. I don't even like
going to the checkout.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Last week, Caddyshack two. This week Airplane. Tune in next
week to find what classic.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Movie Fingers is referencing this time, Porky's three, Having said
that ease, I don't want to be bothered. I don't
even like going to the checkout and have them ask
me how you're doing. The best thing when you're going
to the checkout the clerk can say, is did you
find everything?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, because I don't want to go through the whole
transactional How.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Are you doing? I'm fine today? How are you doing?
I'm fine today? Cold for you? You're asking me how
I feel. You don't care how I feel. Care No,
and quite frankly, I'm happy that you're alive. Other than that,
I don't care either.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
If you're in the aisle and you turn, if the
employee says if I can help you find anything, let
me know, great, because sometimes that initiation is like, yeah, actually,
I'm looking for this thing.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
That's super helpful. That's it. That's all you need.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Because the amount of let me explain this to your
fingers more, we have gotten to a place in America
where people don't know how to talk to each other.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Now you like that place absolutely, Here's where I don't like.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's my vanity.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I'm standing in a supermarket. I'm talking to my wife
and there's someone behind us and they want to get by.
I'm not really in the way, but they don't say
excuse me. They're just gonna wait there, wait there for
the rest of your life. I don't care. You can
die in that spot, your kids can come and mourn

(31:45):
you in that spot. Why can't you say excuse me,
just need to get by, that's it, and be like, yeah,
I'll move over to guy ahead. Why can't they say it?
People have forgotten how to talk, and they would rather
they're so afraid of the talk. Stop being afraid of
the talk. That is a different conversation than force the talk.
That's not necessary. That's a mistake from target.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
See.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
I think you're completely wrong on this. I think we
as app developers, should come up with an app where
someone could type into their phone for them to be
able to say excuse me, will you please move, and
have the app tell you to move.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
You think we should devise an app where people just
hit a button and it'll say excuse me please, Yes, absolutely,
as opposed to having to say excuse me please?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Who needs that?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
What if you could like more customize the app, so
for some people it'll say excuse me please, and other
people it will say, can you move your fat ass
out of the way? Do you think you're capable of
doing that with your giant butt? Do you think you
can move that? You think you can scooch that massive
load just maybe a few inches to the right, even

(32:57):
though we know you're gonna go home alone and cry
while you eat a full pints And I'm sorry corn,
I'm sorry gallon of ice cream.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
But if you could just for right.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Now move that giant whatever that is a bit to
the left so I can go get some butter flavored
uh MicroID popcorn.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
We already have that app. It's called Twitter. Oh do
you win this round?

Speaker 1 (33:19):
That's really good. You can't say that you want enough
to do? Really, you're you won't do that. You'll just
stand there.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Oh no, I'll just bust my way right through.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I don't get that. Why would you do that?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Why would I busk my way right through?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah? Just say excuse me?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Oh, I would say excuse me, maybe even pardon me.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Wait, would you say it after you're already through, if
you've already busted through and people are laying blooded on
the ground, would you be pushing your cart going excuse me?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (33:48):
But then I would end the sentence with governor, that's
what I do target, what are you doing? I don't
want to talk to people. I just don't want it.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's it's it's force. It is it is force, and
force is silly.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
And that's the other thing too, when everyone knows that
in this transaction that it's all phony.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Right, But do you feel that way about the Chick
fil A people?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
It'll be my pleasure, but it's really not. Are you sure.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm pretty sure you're getting paid. Maybe it's a pleasure
to be able to get paid.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
If it were a pleasure for them, they wouldn't be
getting paid for it.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
But I do favor the idea of instilling in the
employees the concept of kindness and the concept of not
only appreciation of the job, but of the customer who's there. Sure,
some customers are lowlives. We all agree. Some customers are
just awful that you.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Know it, I know it.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
We all know it the Fingers Molloy Institute of Institutes
for institute instead of study.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
All right, recently we got a government grant.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
It's always good.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Eleven percent of customers are terrible. Eleven percent it just
feels because they're the loudest.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
So but I I I would like to see employees
be a little more happy that they have a job,
as opposed to I can't believe I have to be
at this job. I think that I think it's just
better if attitude leads to a happier life in that regard,
But I don't want to force a presentation on a

(35:23):
customer that now puts me in a spot where I
have to respond, And maybe I don't want to respond.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Because you can tell it's genuine if you're genuinely a happy,
outgoing person and you have the little Target vest on
and you're walking by someone.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Target doesn't have a vest.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
They wear a red they wear a red shirt.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Isn't that a vest?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
They don't have a vest. They have vests.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
I believe that's a vest.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, maybe they've got vests. No that that lady in
the photo has a vest.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
If they're a genuine outgoing person and they and you
make on eye contact and they say hello, that's fine.
But if they're coming over and they're tackling you to
make sure they get their hello in because the assistant
manager is watching, then nobody needs that.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I'm with you, I'm with you, this is.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
This is this is a miss.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
And like if you see an employee coming around the corner,
you're like, oh, I got got out of this aisle
before they talk to them.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
And do that all the time.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Do you really? Do you really? Oh?

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Especially at Kroger when they are have the cell phone
people who are back trying to sell me self service?

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