September 5, 2025 • 36 mins
Welcome to another exciting Happy Hour episode of Eat Drink Smoke! Today, Tony and Fingers review a bourbon blend called the Wiseman from Kentucky Owl and Bardstown. They'll tell you if it's worth the price tag. Later, they discuss the crazy NFL trade news involving the Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay Packers.
Tony and Fingers are sipping on the Wise Man Bourbon ($40), a blend of 2 bourbons from Kentucky Owl and 2 from Bardstown. This honey-colored 90.8 proof bourbon intrigues the hosts with its sweet nose and hints of spice. Does the taste deliver?
The guys also light up a Liga Privada Undercrown Maduro cigar, a full-bodied smoke with a chocolate and coffee profile.
13:45 - NFL Trade News: The Dallas Cowboys have traded star linebacker Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers. The hosts react to this blockbuster deal.
18:30 - Travis Kelce merch is flying off the shelves after his engagement to Taylor Swift. Could a Chiefs/Swift jersey collaboration be next?
21:00 - Jobs that pay well without needing a college degree, like elevator repairmen and real estate agents. Tony and Fingers discuss the pros and cons of skipping college.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So it's at this moment I tell you, I think
we're either going to be outrageously surprised or outrageously disappointed.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And I don't think I've ever said that about a
bourbon before. It's also how I would describe my weekends
interesting tea, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That is America's favorite amateur drinker, fingers Maloy. And this
is the Wise Man Bourbon. Now, it's a really kind
of convoluted story.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is a kind of a mashup, right.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's distilled by Bardstown, but it comes from Kentucky Owl.
It's weird that we do something that comes from Kentucky
owl because they're having a whole host of troubles over there.
We will get to that. So this is Kentucky owl
in Bardstown bourbon. It's a blend of the Kentucky owl
four year weeded and high ride bourbons. So that's two
(00:54):
and then it's combined with two bourbons from Bardstown five
and a half year and eight and a half year.
I should actually say they're Kentucky source bourbons. So there
is this panoply of bourbons going on in this thing
that they call the Wise Man and I'm like, I'm
gonna love it or hate it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We are at that stage.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This comes in at ninety point eight proof fingers with
the boy got this in the glen cairing glass here.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And first things first, that is honey.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
That that is not dark, That is not have the reds,
doesn't have the ambers, doesn't have the richness.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Doesn't look like caramel at all. Just looks honeycolored. Yeah
it does. And uh, it is sticking to the glass.
There's a nice little bit of a viscosity.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Without a viscosity like Valvelene, which would make a great
sponsor of featuring smoke.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Come on, Valveleine, let's go racing together. Wow, impressive racing
to profits? That is that how you sell it? Yes?
What can I do to put you in some forget it?
That's bigger nose than I thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, right off the bat, ninety point eight proof is
not big, not strong.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
But there's a lot happening on that nose. Nice bit
of caramel um, maybe a hint a hint of alcohol.
Yeah I would, I would say a little more than
a hint. It is there.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Touch a cinnamon, touch, touch of cinnamon, and I'm gonna
argue after you get in it for a little while,
a little dark fruit fruity, A dark fruit fruity, dark
fruit fruity. I saw them open up for Ungo Biner
it is in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yes, it's it's there's a little there.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
There's I think a little bit of dark fruit going
on there in that.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Okay, I want to argue it, but not getting a
lot of oak? Is that is that cinnamon or is
that just spice? Right?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Considering that that we know that there's this blend here,
there's high Rye bourbons, And.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Here's here's what I would say that could be it.
Here's what I would say if I picked this up
without having any knowledge of the mash bill, I would
tend to agree with you. But the fact that you, uh,
you've got the rye in there, it makes me think
that that's more rye spice, right. I think it's a
(03:23):
little more not not the mash bill, but the different. Yeah,
if you're gonna throw high Rye bourbons in here, and
you got to figure if they've got a couple of
four years, a five and a half year, and an
eight and a half year, one would lend themselves to
think there's more of the four year than the higher
year bourbons to be able to make it last longer,
(03:44):
meaning you can get more bottles out of it. That's
how I would assume this mix goes. But enough of
us smelling this stuff. You ready for this, Fingers boy?
First of all, do you think when they put this
together someone was wearing a lap coat? I don't know, maybe,
And I've been ready for this all day.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We are doing what's called the Kentucky chew, moving the
juice around the palate, getting a feel for the flavors.
The first sip. I'm a big favorite fan of the
two sip concept. First sip to set the taste buds,
second sip tweeling get an idea of the flavors.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
The Kentucky owl wise Man bourbon.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
The wise Man bourbon is what it says right there
on the label, fingers will really.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Really uh you?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You look like you just got winded. That look like
you ran an entire quarter city block. It is the finish.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
There is a it's a cinnamon like heat, that cinnamon heat,
but it's not cinnamon. It's the rye spice. It's it's
a it's a nice bit of rye spice. Uh, that
caramel is there. You're actually getting some. OK. There is
a nice bit of staying on the tongue in the mouth,
(04:58):
nice bit of h a gentle warmth in the chest,
maybe a hint of no. I'm not gonna say that
it's good. It is good. I think I'll be interested
to see what you say that that rye spice really
hits you, so you know you're a ry guy. I'm
(05:20):
going in.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
This is the wise Man Bourbon Kentucky Owl with Bardstown.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Here I go. He's going in ladies and gentlemen with
his Glen Karen Glenn Ross Glass and he's doing what
we like to call the saganaw swish, the Memphis munch,
the Chattanooga chomp, a confused look over his face.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That is so much richer. I'm telling I was fifty
to fifty. That's crazed. First of all, that's a whole
bunch of fruit. Really, that's a whole bunch of fruit.
(06:05):
The guys over at Breaking Bourbon dot Com referred to
it as muted raspberry, and I almost want to say bravo,
like that's a really kind of but I think you
go more orchard, dark dark fruits in general, it's much
sweeter than.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
If there is a hard spice, it's not hitting no
heat centered chest or anywhere in the chest at all.
A little bit back of throat. It actually touches into
the cheek.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's going back in ladies and gentlemen for sip number two.
And I can't believe. It's also very warm.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's a warm drink and goes down much smoother than
I would have expected.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Rice spice isn't hitting you see to the extent that
it exist. No, that's crazy. No, there's a little bit
on the sides of the tongue that I can feel.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm more taken by the by the okay, okay, the finish.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Has some spice. Hey, how you doing? How's your mother?
And that's resting in the throat and uh and the
and the.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Mid front of the tongue. Yeah, the sides of the tongue. Now,
that's where the rye spice is. Um, I'm telling you now.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And there is a there is a touch of voke
going on. Yeah, it's interesting. I'm afraid to monkey with it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
We're gonna have to, I mean science, We do it
for eatdrink, smoke, nation. I'll add a cube, he'll add
some water. Did you bring your droppers today?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Of course not. Why did I even ask? Wow? This
is this is interesting? Why would you make that assumption
because you didn't bring your droppers? Well I didn't, But
why would you make that assumptives? Because I do this
show for a living.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Fingers boy, this is the wise Man, A blend of
four year, five and a half year, and eight and
a half year bourbons.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
They're packed in a box.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
This came about in twenty twenty one, Fingers will wow
you is this in your liquor cabinet?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
For forty dollars a bottle? Yes? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Now what's interesting is I went back and looked when
people did some initial reviews.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Things came out it was sixty dollars a bottle.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Wow, I saw it for fifty on sale for forty,
which means maybe it ain't so much around no.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
More that could be.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That's gonna bring us to another story. I make no
claim of being a football expert. I make no claim
of being an NFL expert. I make no claim at
all that I know every detailed reason for a trade
(08:55):
or anything else.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
But when I.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
See crazy, oh, I'm pretty good point. Now crazy, it's
eat drink smoke on Tony Katz. That right there is
America's favorite amateur drinker and world class Detroit Lions fan,
Fingers malloy.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
We're down the field, a charging team that will not Yeah,
I had two chances to win a Super Bowl. Ain't
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Now, Sorry, sorry to be so so direct with you,
but there is a trade in the NFL that Fingers.
As we're doing the show got announced and fingers jaw
was on the floor. And it doesn't affect his high
flying Detroit Lions. No, it affects the Green Bay Packers.
(09:40):
Take us through it, if you would, Fingers, Horatio malloy.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So, Micah Parsons, the All Pro linebacker really a defensive
end in a lot of ways for the Dallas Cowboys,
has been in a contract dispute with Jerry Jones for
some time now. He wanted to to have his contract
and he renegotiated. He was scheduled to make I believe
twenty one million dollars this year in his final year
(10:07):
of his deal, which with his skill set, he would
have been considered very much underpaid. And they were in
the middle of a standoff, and Micah Parsons was doing
what they call a hold in, where hold in instead
of holding out, you actually show up to camp so
they can't find you. But then you say, oh, my back,
(10:28):
I can't practice, and oh, you know what, my shin
is bothering me. I think I have water on the knee.
I got the gout. Yes, And you just sit there
and you don't practice and you become a distraction to
the team. And then there was a lot of back
and forth in the media between Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons.
For the most part, Is has stayed silent until he
(10:49):
announced I now must be two weeks ago, that he
wanted out of Dallas. He wanted to be traded, and
Jerry Jones was adamant that he wasn't going to trade
him and that they were going to come up with
some sort of deal. You know, at one point it was, oh,
you know what, we aren't going to come up with
the deal. He's under contract, He's just gonna play for us,
and Micah Parsons was saying, well, no, no, yeah exactly.
(11:11):
So it was just announced that the Dallas Cowboys have
traded Micah Parsons to the evil Green Bay Packers. My god.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
First of all, we are heard on w HBY in
Appleton and Green Bay Sundays from three to five pm.
We love you guys, and we're more than happy to
come up. And Fingers mLOY will wear a Detroit Lions
jersey and you can throw fresh fruit at him. You
invite us, we will come up. We will grill brats
with you.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
We'll do the whole thing, and eventually you'll see Fingers
mLOY wearing a cheesehead because they would be throwing cheese
at me. Having said that, they traded go through it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Because because first things first, The first part about this
is whatever your favorite team is the marquee player, the
marquee player, because the Cowboys don't.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Dak Prescott is not a marquee player. He is a
Middland quarterback at best. Sorry, he was Dallas's best player.
Michah Parsons was period, end of discussion. And on any
defense he would be the player.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, I don't think there's any question about this, and
they just traded him away, and not only the key player,
but you could argue heart and soul glue identity of
that defense which now doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So that part for the Cowboys is nuts. Now reports
are that in return for Micah Parsons, the Green Bay
Packers gave up.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Wait, hold on, before we get to what they gave up. Yes,
can we discuss how much money they're going to pay MICHAEH.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Parsons. I've got the number right here. Oh please please
share it.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
They are gonna pay Micah Parsons a four year deal
for one hundred and eighty eight million dollars. It's got
a total amount of one hundred and thirty six million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He is now the highest paid.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Non quarterback in the National Football League. First, before you
get to what they gave up, that's an insane amount
of money.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, that's also what the market dictates. One hundred and
eighty eight million dollars four years. Yes, but also keep
in mind that the initial announcement of these contracts they
are usually inflated quite a bit, and once you know
the media is able to dig into the numbers, they
usually come down a little bit. But that is what
(13:41):
it costs to have a premium pass rusher on your defense.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So first things first, you can argue they paid too much.
You can say, okay, as fingers does that's what the
market bears.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
What did the Green Bay Packers give up? They gave
up Pro Bowl defensive tackle Kenny Clark and two two
first round draft picks from what years the future? Just
in general and future. Yeah, I'm assuming it's going to
be the twenty twenty six and twenty seven. That's exaccurate. Okay.
(14:20):
How desperate are the Green Bay Packers? When why they
have had problems on defense at times? It hasn't been consistent.
And also, listen, it's a really tough division. Take my
Lions fandom out of it. The Lions are probably going
to take a step back this year because they lost
(14:41):
all Pro center Frank Gragnow and they're replacing It's not
just their defensive and offensive coordinators. When Ben Johnson, who
is the Lions offensive coordinator, left to become coach of
the Chicago Bears, and Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator, left
Detroit to become the Jets head coach, they took a
lo lot of coaches with them off of the Lion's staff.
(15:02):
There's a lot of brain drain and I won't be
surprised at all if the Lions take a step back
this year. But the Lions are still going to be
really good. The Bears have a really talented roster and
it's just a matter of if Ben Johnson in his
first year can bring out the talent in Caleb Williams
that everybody's expecting him to do. They're they're probably going
(15:26):
to be tougher this year. And my goodness, the Minnesota
Vikings were very good last year with Sam Donald. They
let Sam Donald walk and now they got JJ McCarthy
who was essentially having his rookie year played out, even
though it's you know, he's a second year quarterback, but
he was injured all of last year. It's a tough division,
(15:47):
so they they've they've seen what's happened the last two
years the Lions have won the division, and they're they're
tired of it and they feel like they had to
make a move. That's a crazy gamble.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Two first round picks a guy who you know delivered
and that money.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
That is an insane gamble. Think of it this way, though,
if you're Green Bay and I don't have their information
as far as their draft capital, but say they only
have their normal first round pick next year, they're expecting
to be really good. So if you're picking twenty ninth, thirtieth,
(16:30):
thirty first, and you know, hey, if they win the
Super Bowl thirty second in the first round, that's almost
a second round pick. So to bring on someone with
an elite with elite talent like Micah Parsons for a
very very very late first round pick in two years,
it's certainly an.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Interesting way to look at it. It's a little more
sober minded than just my initial shock. The money, it
just blows my mind. Four years, one hundred and eighty
eight million.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's people making radio. It is. It is God.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
If I only had any athletic talent, if only I
could say athletic, I have two problems.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Now, good gosh, what a deal? Eat drink smoke. It
is your cigar, bourbon FOODI extravaganza. I'm Tony Kats. That's
Fingers malloy. Find everything we.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
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Right there, we are smoking from Liga Liga you know,
you know Liga Pravada.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You love it. This is the underground.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
When Duro the Toro six by fifty two, I believe
they call this a gran Toro Mexican San Andreas, Brazilian
matdafina in in the binder, hun Duran and Nica roguin
in in the filler.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Right there.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
This is a full bodied cigar getting ready for or
the final third of this cigar.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Not much has changed.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm not getting an explosion of flavor, of different flavors
out of this cigar. I'm a little bit tobacco forward
with this. I knew what I was getting. I knew
it was gonna have this level of strength. I knew
it was gonna have this level of conviction. I think
that that chocolate has picked up a little bit, not
necessarily a coffee. I think that you talked about that
(18:27):
initial spice that is still there. It's just a big boy.
It's just powerful and you feel it. So if you're
not somebody who's into that, this is not for you.
If you like that, hey, allow us to introduce this
to you. And coming in at nine dollars and fifty
cents a stick. And the construction is spectacular, which is
(18:51):
exactly what I expected here. This is it's a box
is twenty five. Find a few friends, split the box
five ways. Everybody gets five cigars, smoke one a week,
one every other week. It fits into a rotation, especially
at nine dollars and fifty cents. If you're somebody who
does this cigar on a daily you're you're special. That's
(19:14):
that is the best way I can describe it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I can't imagine lighting this up at ten o'clock at
night and what it would do to me. I would
be up until like six o'clock in the morning. Yeah, oh,
absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I mean we're always clear about cigars, right, You're not
inhaling a cigar that that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But there's still it's still tobacco, there's still nicotine.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
There's still an effect that it has one hundred percent.
This is a big pupp but I'm telling you, beautifully done,
and we are drinking the wise Man bourbon coming in
at ninety point eight.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Proof.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
My cube has melted. Fingers, Oh, my cube has melted.
I'm trying it here. For me, it was it was
rather fruity. It had it had a bit of spice,
which I am attributing to the Rye spice conversation is
what is a cube gonna do?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So water brings down proof, That's exactly what it does.
But it also some flavors more muted, some flavors more prominent.
It kind of water or ice can open up the bourbon.
It's not wrong to have something on a cube or
on ice chips or the rocks, or just add a
little bit of water.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's fine. People are like, well, you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
They're wrong and they're silly, and you shouldn't talk to
those people or you should ignore them one way or another.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
So I put a cube in here, and now I'm
going in. He's going in, ladies and gentlemen for round three.
Actually with the melted cube and oh, got dryer, got spice,
Oh got spicier, no neat haa.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Oh oh dry and spicy and almost like all that
that that fruit and as Breaking Bourbon, which a very
cool site, Breaking Bourbon dot com, they called it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
A muted raspberry.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I'm like that is that is like really well done
as they described it, and all that just disappears.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It muted the raspberry. Ha.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It left me with spice and blaw. You look like
you're in pain it. Oh oh you know you said
I don't want a monkey with this. Those are exact words.
You are a soothsayer, a soothsayer fingers, well, way you
got it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It brought out a lot of that spice that I
was getting. Neat.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh, I feel it in the throat, I feel it
in the nose, I feel it in the chest, I
feel it in my toes.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Ha ha, you just did. You added a little bit
of water to yours right there. Well you're not happy either. Okay,
that can't be. That can't be chicken cutlet bingo. I
knew it. I so that spice is still there. I'm
waiting for the spice to subsort. When it first hit
(22:03):
my palette, I got apple briefly, and well, I said
dark fruits, which I didn't get before. So you know what,
now I'm gonna have to go in and try do
it again. Do it, do one more step, do four
more steps? Whatever makes you happy? Right there? Check it
out apple, Yeah, it really brought out a little bit
(22:27):
of apple. That spice is still there. There's oak. I'll
tell you no, I liked it better neat, but that
I did too. That boy, that is just a strange.
That's strange how that happened.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
And so this was and so people had this listed
at sixty dollars a bottle. This was listed at forty
nine ninety nine when I bought it was on sale
for thirty nine ninety nine, and at thirty nine ninety nine,
Neat absolutely as a nice addition, those flavors sweeter than
I normally do, but there was still an oak presence.
(23:07):
So I'm like, you know what, I can work with this,
I can play with this. It was a bit beguiling,
I said, I was fifty to fifty on what I
thought this was going to be this kind of weird
collab between Kentucky Owl and Bardstown, but not on the
cube man, who he ha ha and still still sticking
with me. Not in a way I like, but Neat
(23:27):
that was.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Fun Yeah, so now I'm still a Yes. What's funny
is if you would have said it's sixty dollars a bottle,
I would have said, I wish you would have said
forty dollars a bottle, right, yeah, forty dollars. That's a
sweet spot for me with this bottle, I would I
don't think I'd want to pay any more than that.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And unique about this the plan was not to do
this combination, right, I don't plan that far ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Is that it does work.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
When it was Neat, that sweetness with the strength of
that cigar. Those things were not but they weren't contradictory.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They were just different, different enough.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
There was enough contrast to enjoy that back and forth.
But the Cube man, the Cube screws it all up
for me, it did. I leave it to you to decide,
But it's time Fingers Maloy for News.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Of the Week, Tony, let's stick with the football theme.
TMZ is reporting that it looks like love and Taylor
Swift is great for merch sales's. TMZ is reporting that
jerseys flew off the shelves Travis Kelcey jersey specifically on
Tuesday after he proposed to Taylor Swift. Two questions.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
First of all, let them be happy together. And that's
the last ti I'm gonna say that. They don't know me,
I don't know them.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
The question is, first, at what moment do the Cans
City Chiefs offer up a Taylor Swift jersey with some
number that corresponds to her.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Albums or something like that, or one of her songs.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And at what moment does Travis Kelcey wear a Kelsey
Dash Swift jersey on the field because you know he's
gonna do it, and it's gonna be taking her name.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You know, we all know it. I don't know why
we're arguing against it. You know that I'm right the
MIDI I heard it. You knew I was right. At
what moment does that happen? Well, I believe players get
a percentage of their jersey sales. I may be wrong
on that, but I think that that is kind of
baked in to money that they make. Can can you
(25:46):
imagine if he did something like that, the amount of
the Swifties running out and buying Kansas City Chiefs jerseys.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The Chiefs are going to have a Taylor Swift jersey
guaranteed or your money back. It's going to come out
in October when they do their whole thing with breast
cancer and breast cancer awareness and everything else.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Y because of pumpkin spice. It's it no that that
that would be different.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's it's going to happen. There's going to be a
Kansas City Chiefs Taylor Swift jersey. This is happening.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So all of you out there who were football fans
that were clamoring for more Taylor Swift during an NFL
broadcast your wish through. I got so excited honestly, just
go be happy and then stop stop people telling me
(26:42):
about it. I I I'm not.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
People were like screaming, Oh my gosh, she's doing it good.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Have you seen the engagement photos. No, I'm just happy
to know that their true love is still real out there.
It is. Let's see if they get married. Nice back. Thanks,
You're welcome. It's Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That
(27:11):
is Fingers malloy.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
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forgot it didn't get done. I thought I thought it
was already done. My mistake, we said a couple of
(27:35):
weeks ago, as we were smoking the Tampa Smokers from J. C.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Newman.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
We would post the picture because one of the cigars
in that box is designed like a baseball bat. It's
very cool that we would post it to our Instagram feed,
Eat Drink Smoke podcast and we would take all the
is it all the people who responded nice bat, and
we would pick one of them and we would send them
a Tampa Smoker forgot to post a freaking photo.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
They're just sometimes not enough hours in the day, Tony.
I don't know how this happens. This is gonna happen.
Be looking for it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Follow us on Instagram at Eat, Drink, Smoke Podcast, and
when we post the picture of the Tampa Smoker, just
put in the comment nice bat, and you have a
chance to win at Tampa.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Smoker Star and be the fifth caller. That's not how
this works. Oh that's that's that's say the phrase that pays,
which is waka waka argo bargel. I believe, I believe
that that is it. Fingers will wif Yes. Let let's
say you don't have a college degree. You don't have
(28:36):
a college degree. Can you still make a living in
today's America? Absolutely? You know how how by being an influencer.
I hate you, I.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Hate you, I hate you over there at CBS News.
Full disclosure. I do not have a college degree. I
never graduated college.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
No, nope.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I left college to help my family that was in
a financial bind.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
And that was that. Oh until that one done. I
have a college degree. Oh is that right? Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Look at you, ladi da Look what it got me,
a sophisticate. You can be earning money without a college degree.
The people from lending Tree, according to CBS News, took
a look at data and what is it that jobs are.
(29:25):
What are the jobs that are paying well? You don't
need a college degree. And the first thing on the
list CEOs and legislators. What sure, okay, but that's like, like,
how do you get that gig?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
They've got aircraft pilots and flight engineers to me, sales engineer.
What's a sales engineer is a great question. It's someone
that you see when you're you're you're coming up with
a sale, you need someone back there tinkering and they're
they're putting together the sale in a way that you
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could say, you know what you're really good at that
we're going to give you the title of sales engineer.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Also on the list air traffic controllers and airfield operations specialists.
Now allow me, okay, because it sounds way frightening when
you say that, considering the kind of output universities have
had over the past two decades, you're very, very right
(30:34):
not to go to college in many, many ways and
many instances. Without question, You're right, you do not need college.
What you need are skills, What you need is capability. Certainly,
there's the trades, so we're not so the idea of
for year university versus trade school or specific training in
(30:55):
a subject being different things. This is about a four
year degree. I'm thrilled to see more and more people
discussing how unnecessary it is for some. And I would
actually argue for most, but I'm not going to go
so far as to say for all. Some people absolutely
will benefit from four years, not only in terms of
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the the career that they're heading towards, but for their
own development, for their own growth, for for skill sets
of social ability and and and and compatibility and and
how to deal with with situations.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know your kids. Some of them need that.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And it'll it'll help them tremendously, but some don't and
some don't want it. And I'm thrilled to see a
society and all the respect in the world to guys
like Mike Rowe who have been rowing upstream not to
make a pun there on this subject, absolutely right. There's
so many other ways, so many more valuable ways to
(31:56):
go about this. Uh and but this list is interesting
elevator installers and repairs, and you're like elevators, and then
all of a sudden you're like, oh, that's actually pretty interesting. Yeah,
there's probably a lot of the specialized kind of fields.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Especially when you go to a big city and stay
at a hotel. How many times do you you walk
into the hotel and they've got four elevators and at
least one of them is broken. It feels like it
happens all the time, And I say to myself, huh,
they're a great chain there. Some people people call them
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super Oh is that right? Yes, the Super eight. I
shouldn't have said Super eight because they don't normally have elevators.
But having said that, no, you've never noticed that before.
I'll tell you what. The couple of times I've stayed
in hotels in Manhattan, it was like it was a
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challenge to find an elevator that worked, and you gotta
have someone Tom and I could see where you wouldn't
need a college education for that. But also I would
argue too, there needs to be a re examination if
you are going to get a college degree. If you
could somehow, if the market can somehow influence these universities.
(33:18):
The four year bachelor's degree system is ridiculous. Agree the
amount of classes that you have to take to get
that bachelor's degree that have absolutely zero to do with
your major. When I went to get my associate's degree,
I went to a community college and then went to
(33:39):
a four year university, I took tennis one in tennis two.
That as to, you know, fulfill my physical education requirement.
What other than the possibility of rupturing an Achilles tendon,
what possibly can you get out of tennis one and
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tennis two in college.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I think that you are absolutely right, and I would
love to see you play tennis.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I say tennis all the time? Is that right? Yeah?
And then the fat came, Oh god, and then that
was the end of that. Yeah, No, I loved I
just had a conversation with my went to the eye
doctor the other day and he plays pickleball, and he
was like, oh, you gotta play pickleball if he played tennis,
And I was like, you don't understand. I would love
to play pickleball. It combines two of my passions tennis
(34:28):
and ping pong. I would love to do that. But
I know I'm going to step foot on the pickleball
court and within twenty minutes rupturing and achilles. There's no
doubt in my mind I.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Was gonna say, die, Wow, you don't need it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You don't need it. You know, the four year university.
It's it's true.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
If you are willing tell your kids, if you're just
willing to sweat the world is.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
There's so many options, opportunities. I will give you on that.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
If you just have a basic level of skills in
plumbing and electric the basic stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
If you can hang something.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Straight, handyman, Yeah, handyman six figures, no question, set your
own schedule, get good insurance, that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Handyman.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
If you can paint, if you like doing different things
all the time, the odd job stuff you don't mind
working late, handyman six figures, no question.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I'll tell you another one. I wish I would have
embraced the idea when I was in my late teens
and early twenties. And I'm not saying it's an easy
line of work. Real estate. I wish I would. You
don't any college are for that? No, you don't. But
I see we should have.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
A whole conversation of residential versus commercial, because it's commercial
where I think it's at. Yeah, because that's really about
relationship building and if you're willing to wait out the
long sales cycle you if you can, if you can
stick that through, you've got a nice, nice future, because
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that's about people who know you, know I can trust.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
And know I can trust you. Yeah. I just know
real estate because I like dealing with people so much.
Oh yeah, that must be it.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
This is the wise man Bourbon coming in at ninety
point eight approof Kentucky owl barreds sound a neat Yes,
the Cube Water forty dollars, absolutely worth it, absolutely worth trying,
and the Liga Undercrown Maduro Toro six by fifty two,
(36:39):
big cigar, but absolutely have a great Labor day. We're
eat drink smoke, eatrinksmokeshow dot com
So it's at this moment I tell you, I think
we're either going to be outrageously surprised or outrageously disappointed.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And I don't think I've ever said that about a
bourbon before. It's also how I would describe my weekends
interesting tea, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That is America's favorite amateur drinker, fingers Maloy. And this
is the Wise Man Bourbon. Now, it's a really kind
of convoluted story.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is a kind of a mashup, right.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's distilled by Bardstown, but it comes from Kentucky Owl.
It's weird that we do something that comes from Kentucky
owl because they're having a whole host of troubles over there.
We will get to that. So this is Kentucky owl
in Bardstown bourbon. It's a blend of the Kentucky owl
four year weeded and high ride bourbons. So that's two
(00:54):
and then it's combined with two bourbons from Bardstown five
and a half year and eight and a half year.
I should actually say they're Kentucky source bourbons. So there
is this panoply of bourbons going on in this thing
that they call the Wise Man and I'm like, I'm
gonna love it or hate it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We are at that stage.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This comes in at ninety point eight proof fingers with
the boy got this in the glen cairing glass here.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And first things first, that is honey.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
That that is not dark, That is not have the reds,
doesn't have the ambers, doesn't have the richness.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Doesn't look like caramel at all. Just looks honeycolored. Yeah
it does. And uh, it is sticking to the glass.
There's a nice little bit of a viscosity.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Without a viscosity like Valvelene, which would make a great
sponsor of featuring smoke.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Come on, Valveleine, let's go racing together. Wow, impressive racing
to profits? That is that how you sell it? Yes?
What can I do to put you in some forget it?
That's bigger nose than I thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, right off the bat, ninety point eight proof is
not big, not strong.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
But there's a lot happening on that nose. Nice bit
of caramel um, maybe a hint a hint of alcohol.
Yeah I would, I would say a little more than
a hint. It is there.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Touch a cinnamon, touch, touch of cinnamon, and I'm gonna
argue after you get in it for a little while,
a little dark fruit fruity, A dark fruit fruity, dark
fruit fruity. I saw them open up for Ungo Biner
it is in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yes, it's it's there's a little there.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
There's I think a little bit of dark fruit going
on there in that.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Okay, I want to argue it, but not getting a
lot of oak? Is that is that cinnamon or is
that just spice? Right?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Considering that that we know that there's this blend here,
there's high Rye bourbons, And.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Here's here's what I would say that could be it.
Here's what I would say if I picked this up
without having any knowledge of the mash bill, I would
tend to agree with you. But the fact that you, uh,
you've got the rye in there, it makes me think
that that's more rye spice, right. I think it's a
(03:23):
little more not not the mash bill, but the different. Yeah,
if you're gonna throw high Rye bourbons in here, and
you got to figure if they've got a couple of
four years, a five and a half year, and an
eight and a half year, one would lend themselves to
think there's more of the four year than the higher
year bourbons to be able to make it last longer,
(03:44):
meaning you can get more bottles out of it. That's
how I would assume this mix goes. But enough of
us smelling this stuff. You ready for this, Fingers boy?
First of all, do you think when they put this
together someone was wearing a lap coat? I don't know, maybe,
And I've been ready for this all day.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We are doing what's called the Kentucky chew, moving the
juice around the palate, getting a feel for the flavors.
The first sip. I'm a big favorite fan of the
two sip concept. First sip to set the taste buds,
second sip tweeling get an idea of the flavors.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
The Kentucky owl wise Man bourbon.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
The wise Man bourbon is what it says right there
on the label, fingers will really.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Really uh you?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You look like you just got winded. That look like
you ran an entire quarter city block. It is the finish.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
There is a it's a cinnamon like heat, that cinnamon heat,
but it's not cinnamon. It's the rye spice. It's it's
a it's a nice bit of rye spice. Uh, that
caramel is there. You're actually getting some. OK. There is
a nice bit of staying on the tongue in the mouth,
(04:58):
nice bit of h a gentle warmth in the chest,
maybe a hint of no. I'm not gonna say that
it's good. It is good. I think I'll be interested
to see what you say that that rye spice really
hits you, so you know you're a ry guy. I'm
(05:20):
going in.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
This is the wise Man Bourbon Kentucky Owl with Bardstown.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Here I go. He's going in ladies and gentlemen with
his Glen Karen Glenn Ross Glass and he's doing what
we like to call the saganaw swish, the Memphis munch,
the Chattanooga chomp, a confused look over his face.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That is so much richer. I'm telling I was fifty
to fifty. That's crazed. First of all, that's a whole
bunch of fruit. Really, that's a whole bunch of fruit.
(06:05):
The guys over at Breaking Bourbon dot Com referred to
it as muted raspberry, and I almost want to say bravo,
like that's a really kind of but I think you
go more orchard, dark dark fruits in general, it's much
sweeter than.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
If there is a hard spice, it's not hitting no
heat centered chest or anywhere in the chest at all.
A little bit back of throat. It actually touches into
the cheek.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's going back in ladies and gentlemen for sip number two.
And I can't believe. It's also very warm.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's a warm drink and goes down much smoother than
I would have expected.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Rice spice isn't hitting you see to the extent that
it exist. No, that's crazy. No, there's a little bit
on the sides of the tongue that I can feel.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm more taken by the by the okay, okay, the finish.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Has some spice. Hey, how you doing? How's your mother?
And that's resting in the throat and uh and the
and the.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Mid front of the tongue. Yeah, the sides of the tongue. Now,
that's where the rye spice is. Um, I'm telling you now.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And there is a there is a touch of voke
going on. Yeah, it's interesting. I'm afraid to monkey with it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
We're gonna have to, I mean science, We do it
for eatdrink, smoke, nation. I'll add a cube, he'll add
some water. Did you bring your droppers today?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Of course not. Why did I even ask? Wow? This
is this is interesting? Why would you make that assumption
because you didn't bring your droppers? Well I didn't, But
why would you make that assumptives? Because I do this
show for a living.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Fingers boy, this is the wise Man, A blend of
four year, five and a half year, and eight and
a half year bourbons.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
They're packed in a box.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
This came about in twenty twenty one, Fingers will wow
you is this in your liquor cabinet?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
For forty dollars a bottle? Yes? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Now what's interesting is I went back and looked when
people did some initial reviews.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Things came out it was sixty dollars a bottle.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Wow, I saw it for fifty on sale for forty,
which means maybe it ain't so much around no.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
More that could be.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That's gonna bring us to another story. I make no
claim of being a football expert. I make no claim
of being an NFL expert. I make no claim at
all that I know every detailed reason for a trade
(08:55):
or anything else.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
But when I.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
See crazy, oh, I'm pretty good point. Now crazy, it's
eat drink smoke on Tony Katz. That right there is
America's favorite amateur drinker and world class Detroit Lions fan,
Fingers malloy.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
We're down the field, a charging team that will not Yeah,
I had two chances to win a Super Bowl. Ain't
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Now, Sorry, sorry to be so so direct with you,
but there is a trade in the NFL that Fingers.
As we're doing the show got announced and fingers jaw
was on the floor. And it doesn't affect his high
flying Detroit Lions. No, it affects the Green Bay Packers.
(09:40):
Take us through it, if you would, Fingers, Horatio malloy.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So, Micah Parsons, the All Pro linebacker really a defensive
end in a lot of ways for the Dallas Cowboys,
has been in a contract dispute with Jerry Jones for
some time now. He wanted to to have his contract
and he renegotiated. He was scheduled to make I believe
twenty one million dollars this year in his final year
(10:07):
of his deal, which with his skill set, he would
have been considered very much underpaid. And they were in
the middle of a standoff, and Micah Parsons was doing
what they call a hold in, where hold in instead
of holding out, you actually show up to camp so
they can't find you. But then you say, oh, my back,
(10:28):
I can't practice, and oh, you know what, my shin
is bothering me. I think I have water on the knee.
I got the gout. Yes, And you just sit there
and you don't practice and you become a distraction to
the team. And then there was a lot of back
and forth in the media between Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons.
For the most part, Is has stayed silent until he
(10:49):
announced I now must be two weeks ago, that he
wanted out of Dallas. He wanted to be traded, and
Jerry Jones was adamant that he wasn't going to trade
him and that they were going to come up with
some sort of deal. You know, at one point it was, oh,
you know what, we aren't going to come up with
the deal. He's under contract, He's just gonna play for us,
and Micah Parsons was saying, well, no, no, yeah exactly.
(11:11):
So it was just announced that the Dallas Cowboys have
traded Micah Parsons to the evil Green Bay Packers. My god.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
First of all, we are heard on w HBY in
Appleton and Green Bay Sundays from three to five pm.
We love you guys, and we're more than happy to
come up. And Fingers mLOY will wear a Detroit Lions
jersey and you can throw fresh fruit at him. You
invite us, we will come up. We will grill brats
with you.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
We'll do the whole thing, and eventually you'll see Fingers
mLOY wearing a cheesehead because they would be throwing cheese
at me. Having said that, they traded go through it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Because because first things first, The first part about this
is whatever your favorite team is the marquee player, the
marquee player, because the Cowboys don't.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Dak Prescott is not a marquee player. He is a
Middland quarterback at best. Sorry, he was Dallas's best player.
Michah Parsons was period, end of discussion. And on any
defense he would be the player.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, I don't think there's any question about this, and
they just traded him away, and not only the key player,
but you could argue heart and soul glue identity of
that defense which now doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So that part for the Cowboys is nuts. Now reports
are that in return for Micah Parsons, the Green Bay
Packers gave up.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Wait, hold on, before we get to what they gave up. Yes,
can we discuss how much money they're going to pay MICHAEH.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Parsons. I've got the number right here. Oh please please
share it.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
They are gonna pay Micah Parsons a four year deal
for one hundred and eighty eight million dollars. It's got
a total amount of one hundred and thirty six million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He is now the highest paid.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Non quarterback in the National Football League. First, before you
get to what they gave up, that's an insane amount
of money.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, that's also what the market dictates. One hundred and
eighty eight million dollars four years. Yes, but also keep
in mind that the initial announcement of these contracts they
are usually inflated quite a bit, and once you know
the media is able to dig into the numbers, they
usually come down a little bit. But that is what
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it costs to have a premium pass rusher on your defense.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So first things first, you can argue they paid too much.
You can say, okay, as fingers does that's what the
market bears.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
What did the Green Bay Packers give up? They gave
up Pro Bowl defensive tackle Kenny Clark and two two
first round draft picks from what years the future? Just
in general and future. Yeah, I'm assuming it's going to
be the twenty twenty six and twenty seven. That's exaccurate. Okay.
(14:20):
How desperate are the Green Bay Packers? When why they
have had problems on defense at times? It hasn't been consistent.
And also, listen, it's a really tough division. Take my
Lions fandom out of it. The Lions are probably going
to take a step back this year because they lost
(14:41):
all Pro center Frank Gragnow and they're replacing It's not
just their defensive and offensive coordinators. When Ben Johnson, who
is the Lions offensive coordinator, left to become coach of
the Chicago Bears, and Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator, left
Detroit to become the Jets head coach, they took a
lo lot of coaches with them off of the Lion's staff.
(15:02):
There's a lot of brain drain and I won't be
surprised at all if the Lions take a step back
this year. But the Lions are still going to be
really good. The Bears have a really talented roster and
it's just a matter of if Ben Johnson in his
first year can bring out the talent in Caleb Williams
that everybody's expecting him to do. They're they're probably going
(15:26):
to be tougher this year. And my goodness, the Minnesota
Vikings were very good last year with Sam Donald. They
let Sam Donald walk and now they got JJ McCarthy
who was essentially having his rookie year played out, even
though it's you know, he's a second year quarterback, but
he was injured all of last year. It's a tough division,
(15:47):
so they they've they've seen what's happened the last two
years the Lions have won the division, and they're they're
tired of it and they feel like they had to
make a move. That's a crazy gamble.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Two first round picks a guy who you know delivered
and that money.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
That is an insane gamble. Think of it this way, though,
if you're Green Bay and I don't have their information
as far as their draft capital, but say they only
have their normal first round pick next year, they're expecting
to be really good. So if you're picking twenty ninth, thirtieth,
(16:30):
thirty first, and you know, hey, if they win the
Super Bowl thirty second in the first round, that's almost
a second round pick. So to bring on someone with
an elite with elite talent like Micah Parsons for a
very very very late first round pick in two years,
it's certainly an.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Interesting way to look at it. It's a little more
sober minded than just my initial shock. The money, it
just blows my mind. Four years, one hundred and eighty
eight million.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's people making radio. It is. It is God.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
If I only had any athletic talent, if only I
could say athletic, I have two problems.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Now, good gosh, what a deal? Eat drink smoke. It
is your cigar, bourbon FOODI extravaganza. I'm Tony Kats. That's
Fingers malloy. Find everything we.
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Right there, we are smoking from Liga Liga you know,
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Speaker 2 (17:41):
You love it. This is the underground.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
When Duro the Toro six by fifty two, I believe
they call this a gran Toro Mexican San Andreas, Brazilian
matdafina in in the binder, hun Duran and Nica roguin
in in the filler.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Right there.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
This is a full bodied cigar getting ready for or
the final third of this cigar.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Not much has changed.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm not getting an explosion of flavor, of different flavors
out of this cigar. I'm a little bit tobacco forward
with this. I knew what I was getting. I knew
it was gonna have this level of strength. I knew
it was gonna have this level of conviction. I think
that that chocolate has picked up a little bit, not
necessarily a coffee. I think that you talked about that
(18:27):
initial spice that is still there. It's just a big boy.
It's just powerful and you feel it. So if you're
not somebody who's into that, this is not for you.
If you like that, hey, allow us to introduce this
to you. And coming in at nine dollars and fifty
cents a stick. And the construction is spectacular, which is
(18:51):
exactly what I expected here. This is it's a box
is twenty five. Find a few friends, split the box
five ways. Everybody gets five cigars, smoke one a week,
one every other week. It fits into a rotation, especially
at nine dollars and fifty cents. If you're somebody who
does this cigar on a daily you're you're special. That's
(19:14):
that is the best way I can describe it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I can't imagine lighting this up at ten o'clock at
night and what it would do to me. I would
be up until like six o'clock in the morning. Yeah, oh,
absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I mean we're always clear about cigars, right, You're not
inhaling a cigar that that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But there's still it's still tobacco, there's still nicotine.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
There's still an effect that it has one hundred percent.
This is a big pupp but I'm telling you, beautifully done,
and we are drinking the wise Man bourbon coming in
at ninety point eight.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Proof.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
My cube has melted. Fingers, Oh, my cube has melted.
I'm trying it here. For me, it was it was
rather fruity. It had it had a bit of spice,
which I am attributing to the Rye spice conversation is
what is a cube gonna do?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So water brings down proof, That's exactly what it does.
But it also some flavors more muted, some flavors more prominent.
It kind of water or ice can open up the bourbon.
It's not wrong to have something on a cube or
on ice chips or the rocks, or just add a
little bit of water.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's fine. People are like, well, you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
They're wrong and they're silly, and you shouldn't talk to
those people or you should ignore them one way or another.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
So I put a cube in here, and now I'm
going in. He's going in, ladies and gentlemen for round three.
Actually with the melted cube and oh, got dryer, got spice,
Oh got spicier, no neat haa.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Oh oh dry and spicy and almost like all that
that that fruit and as Breaking Bourbon, which a very
cool site, Breaking Bourbon dot com, they called it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
A muted raspberry.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I'm like that is that is like really well done
as they described it, and all that just disappears.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It muted the raspberry. Ha.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It left me with spice and blaw. You look like
you're in pain it. Oh oh you know you said
I don't want a monkey with this. Those are exact words.
You are a soothsayer, a soothsayer fingers, well, way you
got it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It brought out a lot of that spice that I
was getting. Neat.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh, I feel it in the throat, I feel it
in the nose, I feel it in the chest, I
feel it in my toes.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Ha ha, you just did. You added a little bit
of water to yours right there. Well you're not happy either. Okay,
that can't be. That can't be chicken cutlet bingo. I
knew it. I so that spice is still there. I'm
waiting for the spice to subsort. When it first hit
(22:03):
my palette, I got apple briefly, and well, I said
dark fruits, which I didn't get before. So you know what,
now I'm gonna have to go in and try do
it again. Do it, do one more step, do four
more steps? Whatever makes you happy? Right there? Check it
out apple, Yeah, it really brought out a little bit
(22:27):
of apple. That spice is still there. There's oak. I'll
tell you no, I liked it better neat, but that
I did too. That boy, that is just a strange.
That's strange how that happened.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
And so this was and so people had this listed
at sixty dollars a bottle. This was listed at forty
nine ninety nine when I bought it was on sale
for thirty nine ninety nine, and at thirty nine ninety nine,
Neat absolutely as a nice addition, those flavors sweeter than
I normally do, but there was still an oak presence.
(23:07):
So I'm like, you know what, I can work with this,
I can play with this. It was a bit beguiling,
I said, I was fifty to fifty on what I
thought this was going to be this kind of weird
collab between Kentucky Owl and Bardstown, but not on the
cube man, who he ha ha and still still sticking
with me. Not in a way I like, but Neat
(23:27):
that was.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Fun Yeah, so now I'm still a Yes. What's funny
is if you would have said it's sixty dollars a bottle,
I would have said, I wish you would have said
forty dollars a bottle, right, yeah, forty dollars. That's a
sweet spot for me with this bottle, I would I
don't think I'd want to pay any more than that.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And unique about this the plan was not to do
this combination, right, I don't plan that far ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Is that it does work.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
When it was Neat, that sweetness with the strength of
that cigar. Those things were not but they weren't contradictory.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They were just different, different enough.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
There was enough contrast to enjoy that back and forth.
But the Cube man, the Cube screws it all up
for me, it did. I leave it to you to decide,
But it's time Fingers Maloy for News.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Of the Week, Tony, let's stick with the football theme.
TMZ is reporting that it looks like love and Taylor
Swift is great for merch sales's. TMZ is reporting that
jerseys flew off the shelves Travis Kelcey jersey specifically on
Tuesday after he proposed to Taylor Swift. Two questions.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
First of all, let them be happy together. And that's
the last ti I'm gonna say that. They don't know me,
I don't know them.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
The question is, first, at what moment do the Cans
City Chiefs offer up a Taylor Swift jersey with some
number that corresponds to her.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Albums or something like that, or one of her songs.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And at what moment does Travis Kelcey wear a Kelsey
Dash Swift jersey on the field because you know he's
gonna do it, and it's gonna be taking her name.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You know, we all know it. I don't know why
we're arguing against it. You know that I'm right the
MIDI I heard it. You knew I was right. At
what moment does that happen? Well, I believe players get
a percentage of their jersey sales. I may be wrong
on that, but I think that that is kind of
baked in to money that they make. Can can you
(25:46):
imagine if he did something like that, the amount of
the Swifties running out and buying Kansas City Chiefs jerseys.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The Chiefs are going to have a Taylor Swift jersey
guaranteed or your money back. It's going to come out
in October when they do their whole thing with breast
cancer and breast cancer awareness and everything else.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Y because of pumpkin spice. It's it no that that
that would be different.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's it's going to happen. There's going to be a
Kansas City Chiefs Taylor Swift jersey. This is happening.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So all of you out there who were football fans
that were clamoring for more Taylor Swift during an NFL
broadcast your wish through. I got so excited honestly, just
go be happy and then stop stop people telling me
(26:42):
about it. I I I'm not.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
People were like screaming, Oh my gosh, she's doing it good.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Have you seen the engagement photos. No, I'm just happy
to know that their true love is still real out there.
It is. Let's see if they get married. Nice back. Thanks,
You're welcome. It's Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That
(27:11):
is Fingers malloy.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Find everything we do at Eatdrinksmokeshow dot com in the
podcast wherever it is you get your podcast, be sure
to get that Eat Drink Smoke and on Instagram Eat
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forgot it didn't get done. I thought I thought it
was already done. My mistake, we said a couple of
(27:35):
weeks ago, as we were smoking the Tampa Smokers from J. C.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Newman.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
We would post the picture because one of the cigars
in that box is designed like a baseball bat. It's
very cool that we would post it to our Instagram feed,
Eat Drink Smoke podcast and we would take all the
is it all the people who responded nice bat, and
we would pick one of them and we would send them
a Tampa Smoker forgot to post a freaking photo.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
They're just sometimes not enough hours in the day, Tony.
I don't know how this happens. This is gonna happen.
Be looking for it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Follow us on Instagram at Eat, Drink, Smoke Podcast, and
when we post the picture of the Tampa Smoker, just
put in the comment nice bat, and you have a
chance to win at Tampa.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Smoker Star and be the fifth caller. That's not how
this works. Oh that's that's that's say the phrase that pays,
which is waka waka argo bargel. I believe, I believe
that that is it. Fingers will wif Yes. Let let's
say you don't have a college degree. You don't have
(28:36):
a college degree. Can you still make a living in
today's America? Absolutely? You know how how by being an influencer.
I hate you, I.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Hate you, I hate you over there at CBS News.
Full disclosure. I do not have a college degree. I
never graduated college.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
No, nope.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I left college to help my family that was in
a financial bind.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
And that was that. Oh until that one done. I
have a college degree. Oh is that right? Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Look at you, ladi da Look what it got me,
a sophisticate. You can be earning money without a college degree.
The people from lending Tree, according to CBS News, took
a look at data and what is it that jobs are.
(29:25):
What are the jobs that are paying well? You don't
need a college degree. And the first thing on the
list CEOs and legislators. What sure, okay, but that's like, like,
how do you get that gig?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
They've got aircraft pilots and flight engineers to me, sales engineer.
What's a sales engineer is a great question. It's someone
that you see when you're you're you're coming up with
a sale, you need someone back there tinkering and they're
they're putting together the sale in a way that you
(30:08):
could say, you know what you're really good at that
we're going to give you the title of sales engineer.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Also on the list air traffic controllers and airfield operations specialists.
Now allow me, okay, because it sounds way frightening when
you say that, considering the kind of output universities have
had over the past two decades, you're very, very right
(30:34):
not to go to college in many, many ways and
many instances. Without question, You're right, you do not need college.
What you need are skills, What you need is capability. Certainly,
there's the trades, so we're not so the idea of
for year university versus trade school or specific training in
(30:55):
a subject being different things. This is about a four
year degree. I'm thrilled to see more and more people
discussing how unnecessary it is for some. And I would
actually argue for most, but I'm not going to go
so far as to say for all. Some people absolutely
will benefit from four years, not only in terms of
(31:17):
the the career that they're heading towards, but for their
own development, for their own growth, for for skill sets
of social ability and and and and compatibility and and
how to deal with with situations.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know your kids. Some of them need that.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And it'll it'll help them tremendously, but some don't and
some don't want it. And I'm thrilled to see a
society and all the respect in the world to guys
like Mike Rowe who have been rowing upstream not to
make a pun there on this subject, absolutely right. There's
so many other ways, so many more valuable ways to
(31:56):
go about this. Uh and but this list is interesting
elevator installers and repairs, and you're like elevators, and then
all of a sudden you're like, oh, that's actually pretty interesting. Yeah,
there's probably a lot of the specialized kind of fields.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Especially when you go to a big city and stay
at a hotel. How many times do you you walk
into the hotel and they've got four elevators and at
least one of them is broken. It feels like it
happens all the time, And I say to myself, huh,
they're a great chain there. Some people people call them
(32:35):
super Oh is that right? Yes, the Super eight. I
shouldn't have said Super eight because they don't normally have elevators.
But having said that, no, you've never noticed that before.
I'll tell you what. The couple of times I've stayed
in hotels in Manhattan, it was like it was a
(32:55):
challenge to find an elevator that worked, and you gotta
have someone Tom and I could see where you wouldn't
need a college education for that. But also I would
argue too, there needs to be a re examination if
you are going to get a college degree. If you
could somehow, if the market can somehow influence these universities.
(33:18):
The four year bachelor's degree system is ridiculous. Agree the
amount of classes that you have to take to get
that bachelor's degree that have absolutely zero to do with
your major. When I went to get my associate's degree,
I went to a community college and then went to
(33:39):
a four year university, I took tennis one in tennis two.
That as to, you know, fulfill my physical education requirement.
What other than the possibility of rupturing an Achilles tendon,
what possibly can you get out of tennis one and
(34:00):
tennis two in college.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I think that you are absolutely right, and I would
love to see you play tennis.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I say tennis all the time? Is that right? Yeah?
And then the fat came, Oh god, and then that
was the end of that. Yeah, No, I loved I
just had a conversation with my went to the eye
doctor the other day and he plays pickleball, and he
was like, oh, you gotta play pickleball if he played tennis,
And I was like, you don't understand. I would love
to play pickleball. It combines two of my passions tennis
(34:28):
and ping pong. I would love to do that. But
I know I'm going to step foot on the pickleball
court and within twenty minutes rupturing and achilles. There's no
doubt in my mind I.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Was gonna say, die, Wow, you don't need it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You don't need it. You know, the four year university.
It's it's true.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
If you are willing tell your kids, if you're just
willing to sweat the world is.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
There's so many options, opportunities. I will give you on that.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
If you just have a basic level of skills in
plumbing and electric the basic stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
If you can hang something.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Straight, handyman, Yeah, handyman six figures, no question, set your
own schedule, get good insurance, that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Handyman.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
If you can paint, if you like doing different things
all the time, the odd job stuff you don't mind
working late, handyman six figures, no question.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I'll tell you another one. I wish I would have
embraced the idea when I was in my late teens
and early twenties. And I'm not saying it's an easy
line of work. Real estate. I wish I would. You
don't any college are for that? No, you don't. But
I see we should have.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
A whole conversation of residential versus commercial, because it's commercial
where I think it's at. Yeah, because that's really about
relationship building and if you're willing to wait out the
long sales cycle you if you can, if you can
stick that through, you've got a nice, nice future, because
(36:05):
that's about people who know you, know I can trust.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
And know I can trust you. Yeah. I just know
real estate because I like dealing with people so much.
Oh yeah, that must be it.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
This is the wise man Bourbon coming in at ninety
point eight approof Kentucky owl barreds sound a neat Yes,
the Cube Water forty dollars, absolutely worth it, absolutely worth trying,
and the Liga Undercrown Maduro Toro six by fifty two,
(36:39):
big cigar, but absolutely have a great Labor day. We're
eat drink smoke, eatrinksmokeshow dot com
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