You Keep Your Grill Where?!?

Are good things really worth waiting for? When it comes to the El Baton Firecracker cigar from J.C. Newman, maybe. This compact powerhouse delivers an impressive smoking experience in just 3.5 inches, featuring a distinctive "fuse" running down its side.

Despite its small stature, this Cameroon-wrapped beauty packs a surprising punch of flavor. Tony and Fingers explore whether this "dog walker" cigar—designed for those quick 45-minute smoke breaks between life's commitments—justifies its $10 price tag. With notes of cedar, pepper, and subtle sweetness emerging throughout the smoke, the duo debates if size really matters when the flavor profile is this impressive.

Key Takeaways:
- The El Baton Firecracker features a distinctive Cameroon wrapper from J.C. Newman with a unique "fuse" design
- At 3.5 x 50, it's designed for smokers with limited time but who still want a quality cigar experience
- Flavor profile includes cedar, pepper, and subtle nutty sweetness
- While the $10 price point seems steep for the size, the quality and flavor may justify it for those seeking a quick premium smoke

The guys paired their cigar with Don Julio Blanco Tequila.

Other topics this episode include:

Starbucks is closing hundreds of stores in North America. Maxwell House coffee is changing its name for the first time in 133 years — and there’s a bizarre reason why. ‘Everybody Loves Raymond’ cast to reunite for a CBS special. Fingers had surgery.

Walmart has many Blackstone griddles on sale in an end-of-summer deal. Young singles are giving up on dating for a startling reason, a study says. DoorDash unleashes a fleet of delivery bots, called Dots, onto the streets of Phoenix. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
The Firecracker is a cigar unto itself from United Cigars,
the people who bring you the Ada Bay, the people
who bring you Vandolero, a whole series of really interesting
and very very good cigars.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's called the Firecracker because.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Of this fuse it runs down the side of the cigar.
It's something they've been doing, I think since two thousand
and seven. Well in a very weird way of working
with other cigar manufacturers. They've been licensing the shape and J. C.
Newman they took the challenge he drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz,
and that right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy.

(00:41):
This is the l button Firecracker. Cameroon rapper. The Newman's
will tell you that at Stanford Newman, who brought the
cameroon into existence, made this a part of cigar lore
and full disclosure. Sucker for a cameroon there there Jason
Newman does once a year there's this like three pack

(01:03):
of cigars that comes out. I don't even know the
name of it right now, but there's a cameroon that's
part of this as a Julius Caesar cameroon.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
And this and something else.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I buy that every chance I get, I'll put in
the comments what exactly the name of the three pack is?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
But I love a cameraon wrapper and saw this.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
But this is a three and a half by fifty
fingers molloy, which means are you ready?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's three and a half inches long. That's always makes
fingers mulloy laugh. And the ring gage is the fifty
at the diameter of the cigar, or how thicket is
around again with the laughter. I do not do cigars, this,
moll This is known as a dog walker ladies and gentlemen.

(01:48):
Something quick, something simple, in and out and done. But
it's like stripes. It's like going to Wisconsin. That's what
this cigar is. I never ever am that guy. I
smoke when I want to smoke, as I want to smoke.
I don't smoke for time.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
So would you say, in a lot of ways, when
you refer to a dog walker, it's almost like a
cigarette lifestyle and a cigar.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, that's the correct I just hate the analysis the
analogy I hear. But you're not wrong, right, I mean,
that's that's the part. But that's how I feel others.
This is exactly what they need as they need it.
They've got, you know, forty five minutes for lunch or
whatever it is, and they're just gonna have a cigar.
It's an early morning thing.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
And then they gotta go to work, or they're going
to church, or they're going to here, or they're going.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
To there, the kid's soccer game, all those things. This
is what you've got in between. I hear you. It
has a purpose. I am not a fan. I do
not like these these smaller length cigars. But since we
try everything, since it's J. C. Newman, and since it's Cameroon,
I'm like, yeah, we're gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I I you could see and take a look. The
wick of the firecracker goes all the way down. It's
actually wrapped up in the band from the al button.
I will take that.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
If I could get it, good, Lord, get it off there,
and so you can see exactly how far down this
thing goes. It goes down like two inches of the cigar.
It's a three and a half inch cigar, maybe a
little bit longer or right there. The weird part is
you can pull this off, man. You can pull it
off if you want and just be like there it
is you're gonna cut, or you're gonna be cut if

(03:34):
I oddly enough, my V cut is totally gone.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I looked everywhere. Maybe I never even I used to
have one. I don't have anymore.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So I'm straight cutting this.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
As shallow as humanly possible, very very shallow cut.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I went on a little bit of an angle there to.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Give me as much surface as I can get without
taking away from the cigar. I would have V cut
into this to ensure I had better mouthfeel on it
if I had the vcut wall so intensify the draw.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
But I wasn't doing it for that. I was doing
it to save actual cigar.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I wouldn't call any of our cigar resources of a liar.
This doesn't seem like it's three and a half inches
to me, Good lord, what it seems like it's shorter
than that?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Well, they're telling me it's a three and a half
by fifty, And it's not my job to argue with
the fine people at JC Newman, so I won't. The
question is does this fit your lifestyle?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Fingers more?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Listen, there are plenty of times not so much this year.
Because I don't know if you heard this or not Tony,
I've been moving, but what right. But when it's a nice,
cool summer evening and I'm getting ready to throw some
steaks on the grill, I do like to have something
like this where I only have half hour. I want

(04:55):
a cigar. It's my only chance of the day to
be able to smoke a cigar. I do like something
like this.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
So the the el.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
But tone is I'm gonna say this crudely of Jcon Newman.
Please don't yell at me, Drew. Uh, this is the
value line of of Jcon Newman. This pearla del mar,
a baby pearlo dulmar. More so, uh, these are the
lower cost on the.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Jason Newman side.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Then you can graduate into you know, uh, the Julius
Caesar and the Diamond the Maximus, and and go go
down that road Diamond crown, uh again a lot of
things and then a little bit above this brick house.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Things like that.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
It is a very pretty wrapper, uh brown, nice brown,
not a saddle brown, not too orange, with with flex
of black in there.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Certainly the construction is fine. I would expect nothing less.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
And there is a pepper hit on the word go
fingers maloy on this cameroon, which is kind of interesting.
A pepper hit right from the very beginning. That lets
you know that it's there. Pepper, and I'm gonna say
wood cedar right off.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
The bat That's exactly what I was gonna say, pepper
and cedar. Also, for it being only three and a
half inches, there is, oddly enough a little bit of
hef to this cigar.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, it's not gonna fly away, it's not gonna just
fall right out of your hand. The three and a
half by fifty This is the Elbaton firecracker from J. C.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Newman.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
The firecracker design from United Cigars has a lot of
flavor right off the hit.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Now, in most cigars, we tell you you take it
and you break it into third's first, third, second, third,
final third, and you grab your notebook.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
What you eat today, what'd you drink today?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
All those things still apply, except you can't think of
a cigar three and a half like it'd be like
a nub.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
There's just no there's no way to do that in
the third.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
So just write down the notes of the flavors, what
you're getting out of the cigar when you tried a
month from now, six months from now, whatever that is,
You go back, you do it again, and then you
compare your notes, really get a through line, an idea,
what flavors you got out of this cigar? And I'm
spicier than I thought.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, we've only well, we lit this up a minute ago.
We're already in the second third, and that's just it.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I want to see how far it goes. I have
a backup if we go through these and we want
to keep smoking. I do have some backups. But this
is just one of those great examples of I smoke
the way I smoke. I am not here to tell
people that they have to smoke the way I do it.
You guys gotta do what's best for you. You gotta
you gotta feel the moment. You gotta know your moment

(07:36):
and know when you have time. And there are times
where you're like, man, if I just had a cigar
with me right now, that's a that is a universal
and there's not a person's like if I had a
cigar with me right now but me, I wouldn't care.
If it was a Toro, I wouldn't care. If it
was a robusta, I wouldn't care. And I don't really
do Rabustos.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I wouldn't care if it was a Churchill if I had,
if I was there the moment hits I do it.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
This might be perfect For some people. The question will be,
fingers maloy, is this in your humidoor for ten bucks?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
That's interesting, right, because it's three and a half inches
and I if I had known it was ten dollars,
I won't lie. I would have done it for the show.
I would have been like nah, because for me, that's
a valueless proposition. But now we're asking the question of
does it fit your life your lifestyle? Is that forty

(08:27):
five minutes worth a ten bucks? And the answer might
be maybe this is the elbatone cameroon wrapper from JC Newman.
We are going to be smoking this and giving our
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(08:48):
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Speaker 1 (08:51):
I like a good cup of Joe with a good
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Speaker 3 (08:56):
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Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, with a hot steaming cup of Joe Chaser, it's
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Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm Tony Katz.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
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Speaker 3 (09:39):
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Speaker 1 (09:42):
They're not limited. You can get as many copies as
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Speaker 3 (09:50):
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Speaker 1 (09:51):
Wow. Listen to Johnny Amazon over here. It's just an
expert on everything Amazon. They call me Johnny Amazon is
what they do.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Maxwell House is changing its name now. You, of course,
are a guy who loves your coffee.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
You wake up in the morning and you're like, how
do I get me a big cup? Of steaming cup
of hot super love and Joe. That's what you call it, right? Yeah?
So I like to start my morning with folgers in
my cup. But what if you could have Maxwell House?
Oh no, I wouldn't touch that with a temper.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
What if? What if?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Now you do it with the name change because Maxwell
House will now be known as Duncan Maxwell Apartment. Oh
is this a thing? No, it's stick. It is. They
are trying Tony to relate with the people, the folks,

(10:47):
Oh tell me more so, they announced that the name
will be changing for the first time one hundred and
thirty three years because you know, there is a problem nowadays,
Tony with affordable housing. Oh is that right? Yes, So,
since nearly a third of Americans are now renting smaller
places rather than purchasing full size homes, the coffee giant

(11:10):
wants to reflect that stat with a temporary rebrand. Ah.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
You know what else would be a great name for
Maxwell House if you wanted a rebrand new coke?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
This is this? It admittedly is dumb, right, yes, But
having said that, I do have a question for you,
because you are much more of a I'm not going
to say, a coffee snob but in general, now I
can go with that. I can live with that.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I sleep fine. As you know.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
When I have my cup of coffee, I put a
lot of schmutz in it is that. Yeah, I put
a lot of creamer, a lot of sugar, and top
that with a lot of creamer. So it isn't as
important to me to have the finest coffee bean in
my coffee cups because I'm putting all the schmuds in it.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
You, on the other hand, no, no, I go little schmutze,
but I do think it matters.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
So so you you joke about the Folgers quick story,
and for the Folgers people who are listening, my mother
lives in the villages. For the record, owns no pineapples.
Oh my god, I almost got the coffee out of
fingers nose. Oh ah, oh god, this could have been

(12:32):
the greatest show ever. I am so sorry, guys, I tried.
I had the timing.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I was, Oh, that's disappointing.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Now did you laugh because that was funny or did
you laugh because your mother totally has my mother?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Oh? I thought you're talking about my mom talking.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
About your mother, Okay, I'm talking about my mom.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
So she lives in the villages and in the independent
living facility which she lives, which she refers to as
the club.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
God, what a woman.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
There's coffee twenty four to seventy and go down anytime
you want and get and get coffee, and they use soldiers.
And I've been there numerous times. She's drinking more coffee
now than she has in her entire life. The coffee
is fantastic. The coffee is fantastic. I don't know what's
going on.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
So don't. Let's not mock the Maxwell house, apartment, condo, townhouse,
Airbnb that's going on here. But there are a lot
of things that go into a fine cup of coffee.
And it's not just the grounds. So first, I mean,
it starts where it starts. You do start with the coffee.
The real story.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
We should we can speak to some experts about it,
because there are people who do this. They're like really
focused on this. They can you know, they do the
cuppings and they can really get an idea where these
beans are from, and they can really get the notes.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
It's about the heat of the water. The problem is
not always your coffee, right.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
It takes people who have talent and real palettes to
be able to get that level of discerning, certainly if
you're already buying ground. Right, it's the heat of the water.
It's whether or not you're keeping your coffee maker clean
or you're descaling it coffee. Oh crap, I have a Technoborm.

(14:19):
I'm sorry, technovorm making. No, it's the Mocha Master from Technovorm,
and the heat on that thing is perfect. I'm telling you,
the coffee is sensational. Now, before that, I had a Ninja.
I thought it did brilliant with coffee. I thought I
did an excellent cup of coffee. But the problem is,
if you live your life in a world of currig

(14:41):
I'm not gonna be anti curig here. If you live
your life in the world of coffee pods, I don't
actually think there is a way.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
For you to get good coffee.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
See, my machine is made by a gentleman by the
name of mister Coffee. Right, And if you are a
mister Coffee, I would assume you're a coffee act. But
you bring up an interesting point about tempera if it
was Professor Coffee, maybe you bring up an interesting point
about temperature because it got me thinking to some of

(15:10):
these places that they have to have their coffee be
the temperature of molten lava? Right? Is that on purpose
because they know that maybe their coffee grounds are not
the best in the world, and they think, you know what,
if I scald this person's tongue, it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
About how good our coffee. I think two things are true.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Number One, the reason they engage such heat is that
you get far less complaints than if the coffee is
too cold.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
So that's number one.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Number Two, I think it's because they may know that
the average age of their coffee drinker is older, and
the older you get, for some reason, you want things
at about fourteen thousand degrees. You are not kidding.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Did my father rest his soul before he died? Everything
got sent back, Everything was in a microwave. It was
It was ridiculous to the point of to the point
of ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I've never met someone in my entire life that is
so obsessed with the temperature and the heat of his
food than Fingers Moloi, Senior. I'm convinced if he could,
he would actually eat his dinner inside of an oven,
just to make sure that that that that food stays hot.
It is amazing to me.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
There is some kind of weird thing that happens. I
am not old enough to know this, that's right, young
and vibrant, but it happens, and it happens all the time,
and it's just it's it's super weird. So that's why
I think it happens that way.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Because you also have more time to work. You can
let it cool down a little bit cold. You're not
going hot enough. That's that's the absolute worst. And when
it comes to heat, it really activates those foltures crystals.
It's very good. But yes, the coffee matters, the bean matters.
The grind matters.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
If you're using beans, you're grinding them right, how coarse
or how fine you're going Again, your coffee maker is
gonna be able to decide that. And then it's really
about It is about the machine. It is about the
heat of the water. I mean, that's a huge part
of it.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I would like to know why I would want my
grounds more coarse?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
What about the idea of surface area?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh, there you go, that's what I did. Yeah, eat,
drink smoking is your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Molloy smoking the Elbatone from J. C.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Newman.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
This is the Firecracker, which is a style of cigar
license from United Cigars.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
With that wick looks like a fuse.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
This is a three and a half by fifty your
dog walker something a quick smoke, an easy smoke, comes
in at ten dollars. There is a fair amount of
spice going on in this cigar. There's definitely some cedar
going on in the cigar. There's a little bit of
making salve, a little bit of sweetness going on with.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
This as well as a black pepper.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
You know, it's not hitting the roof, it's more in
the tongue and in the cheek there, but it's it's
smoking lovely fingers.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, I was going to add that you mentioned a sweetness.
It was kind of like a nuttiness for me. But
that cedar is there, that pepper is definitely there. Really
a nice easy draw, a great hand feel. I could
totally see having one of these when you're throwing some
steaks on the grill. You only got a half hour

(18:38):
to smoke a cigar. This, This would definitely scratch that itch.
I'm just still tossing around whether I would buy it
at that price.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Point ten dollars. It's three dollars too much, right, Yeah,
that's how it feels. For a three and a half
inch cigar, that ten dollars gets you into the Wait
a second, Wait a second, Do I really want to
spend on this? Or can I spend it on a
robusto five inches toro six inches and get more bang
for the buck. And that's really a question of who
are you, what is your time, What kind of flavors

(19:10):
are you looking for?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Et cetera. Is it about the dollar to the to
the time or is it about the dollar to the
quality of the moment you have?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
And that's and that really is something only you can decide.
What you said, scratch an inch, which you did earlier today.
So Fingers Maloy in the midst of the moving that
has taken him nine years to move, Fingers malloy had
uh had uh had?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
What? What surgery did you have? Did you have the gaucoma? No?
The gout? What is? Yes? I had eye gout is
what I had? Yes? No, I had cataract surgery, right,
because you're pretty blind I will in my right eye. Yes,
well not anymore, though they did an outstanding job. They
put in a lens that will let me see both

(19:57):
far away and close up. Right. I had a choice
of just getting a lens where I could see far away,
but then I'd always have to carry readers around, which
sounded like a big pain in the neck. So I
I bumped up and got the the deluxe lens with
the with the the wax and the and the one
hour martinizing and now I can see the fire. Yeah,

(20:18):
I got the clear coat too, and so I can
see far away and close up. But I itched my
eye today and it's only two days out from surgery.
I rubbed it. I rubbed it, and my eye got angry.
And what's even worse is so you have a one
day follow up going the next day you go see
your eye doctor. And you know, I have glasses on
now because both eyes have problems, but the left eye

(20:39):
isn't nearly as bad. So what they do when you
have cataract surgery is once the they do fix it up,
put it right back in. Yes, just like that with
also fresh car, new car smell in the eye. But
they they took the prescription lens out of my right

(21:01):
eye and my eyeglasses and they put in a clear
lens that lasted seven hours. So if you're watching us
on YouTube right now, you'll be able to see me
with glasses on with only one lens.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, the lens is missing in his right eye, but
he's still wearing the glasses because his left eye isn't
great and they only do one eye at a time. Yes,
but you can see. I mean, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
It was unreal, Like right now, I took my glasses off,
and it takes your brain a little while to adjust,
Like right now, you're really blurry. But if I get
two minutes without my glasses on, I can easily read
the computer screen in front of me, just a little
bit blurry. Simply amazing what they can do nowadays. And

(21:45):
I'm really grateful because it was really bothering me that
I couldn't see.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
The real story though, when you're doing this, is that
you don't get knocked out. You're awake, and they put
a bunch of goo in your eyes. Yes, and then
they go in there and they slice you up, and
you see it, don't you. You see the knife coming
at you at the end of days, you know, did you?

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Did you wish your children well? No, it wasn't that bad.
But it's really interesting. They get you in the pre
op area, and you're in the pre op area with
like seven other patients, and it feels like they just
zip right through you, all seven people in no time flat.
So they give you an antiseptic eye drop to prevent infection,

(22:30):
and then they put this goop in your eye that
numbs the eye, and it's like they put Elmer's glue
in your eyes. You can't see, you can still see,
you still see, yeah, And then they put an IV
in you and then they top you off just to
make you feel a little happy, just a little edge off,
a little edge off.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
And then they wheeled me into the room.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I'm in the the surgery center there. I'm in the
operating room, and the nurses are talking, you know, about
the kids whatever, not mine, talking about their kids. And
for it about like ten minutes, the surgeon came in.
They tape my head down too. They tape your head

(23:12):
down to the table. Now I have two reasons why
I'm out. This is this is I listen. I saw
a clockwork orange. This isn't gonna work. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
They also said that the safety work was pineapple, but
they they take twice in one show ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
So they they they tape your head, They tie your
head down so you can't move, and then they've got
a very bright light in your eye so you can't
see anything. So I'm just looking to my right. It
was my right eye. My my head was tilted to
the side, and you just got this big bright light
in there and you can't feel anything. Tony, I'm not
exactly no, no, nothing, nothing. I'm not buying. I'm telling

(23:51):
you right now. Maybe three minutes he was done, went in,
They do a two to three millimeter incision into your eye.
They they vacuum the old lens out and then they
slip a new lens in. They pass you on your head,
they will you out. They wheel the next person in
and I'm I'm assuming it's the same surgeon because it

(24:13):
is boom, boom, boom, one right after another.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's crazy. Three minutes.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
No chance that sounds. There is no medieval torture I
can think of that could be worse. But listen to
me when I when I say you say no chance. Now,
when I took my glasses off and did the eye
test before I had this done, they gave me the
eye chart. I couldn't. It was just a big blob.

(24:39):
And the doctor said to me at that point, he said,
this is the time when I can't improve your eyesight
with lenses. Your cataract surgery has to happen. I can.
I can read the chart down to little tiny letters. Now.
So you say, not a chance, But there's no chance.
I can be awake for to be out out. I

(25:03):
can't know what's happening. I can't. There's just I'm telling
you right now. Have you ever been put in that
situation where they give you just a taste, just a
taste of that anesthegia. I don't even know if it's
it was technically anesthesia.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
It just had the surgery on my arm when I
tore my bicep. Yes, and I basically got anesthesia twice,
once for the nerve block and then once for the surgery.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
And I got the Michael Jackson propofal Wow. Wow, oh
my god, I felt. I felt nothing but the warm
embrace of the Lord. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Because you do, they do the nerve block and you
wake back up and I'm there, I'm in, I'm not
I'm in the pre op and I was like I
just I was down and I was back up and
I'm like, oh okay.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
But it wasn't a situation where it was like the
one video in Metallica where you're just.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
No, no, no, no, no no. It was it was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
And then and then I felt a small press on
my forehead and it was a smooch, and I knew
everything was going to be okay.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
That's the way I have to feel. If there are
gonna be any surgeries, anything that involves cutting of this
glorious body, there is going to have to be me
knocked out. I can tell you right now. The worst
part of the procedure was the antiseptic drops in the eye.
It was like they put battery acid in my eyes.
The actual procedure itself, I if I felt light pressure.

(26:33):
I don't even remember it. That was a breeze. And
like I said, two to three minutes done. And then
I could see and you weren't blinking. Now I held
your eye, They hold your eye open. Yeah, they could
feel them. They used players. Were they talking to you, yes?
Are you talking back? No? No? I was not talking back.

(26:53):
But I was wearing a lovely Detroit Lion shirt and
they started singing the fight song.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
You didn't go, you didn't change into the smock, no
full close. I even have my shoes on.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Honestly, this can't be legal, no way.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
So much discussion of Fingers malloy's eye, which it does
look a little red.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
But are your eyes blue green? I never noticed some
people get lost in my eyes? Yeah? Yeah, is that right?
That's true. That's what I was told once. Huhugh, pity
for them, te drink smoke im, Tony Katz, that is
Fingers malloy.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
We were so into his eyes. We did not discuss
the news of the week, Tony.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
So this is exciting news for people who like ninety sitcoms.
CBS has announced that they are going to air and
Everybody Loves Raymond Reunion in November. CBS is calling it
it's a thirtieth anniversary spat, even though apparently they're turning
this into their own dental lives. It's a bit early.

(28:05):
It's gonna make it that Actually it would be the
twenty ninth anniversary, but they're calling it the thirtieth anniversary.
Tony Peter Boyle is dead, yes, uh, Doris Roberts is dead, yes,
and they're doing the reunion. Well, yeah, because listen, Peter
Boyle and Doris Roberts, in many ways stole the show

(28:26):
almost every week. Sure, so it is sad that they
are no longer with us. I mean it's it would
have been sad even if they weren't part of Everybody
Loves Raymond, because nobody wants to see anyone die, right,
I would hope not. So that's sad. But it's even
sadder that they're going to be doing this reunion without
the two of them. But Brad Garrett needed the money

(28:46):
that bad. Wow, did you see the Brad Garrett Ray
Romano kind of Everybody Loves Raymond reunion at the what
was it the Cable Ace Awards? I think I may
have seen something. Yeah, I mean they had a little
bit going back and forth, and Brad Garrett was was
commenting about his career much like you just mentioned there.

(29:11):
He's like he was wondering if he would make it
into the in Memoriam cut he when he leaves us.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
So they had that much funny. Do you think Brad
Garrett sitting on from Everybody.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Loves Her fourteen million dollars?

Speaker 3 (29:24):
You think it's only fourteen million dollars.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I think there's a zero there that you're missing one
hundred and forty he if he is not one hundred
million from that show after all those years, I don't
know which end is up.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
That's impossible.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's you don't think Jason Alexander as George Costanzo was
one hundred mil.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Well it was in earlier now that wasn't necessarily an
earlier time. At least fifty million.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
At least fifty million according to AI ailies AI. When
you ask what Brad Garrett's net worth is, it's estimated
to be fifty million dollars. Okay, not bad. Stop complaining.
Who was complaining? Brad Garrett was complaining, you're.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
The one that just trashed God, God forbid I trash
Brad Garrett. Brad Garrett is an American treasure who made
that show and Ray and Ramona was lucky to have him.
I'm not gonna argue it's tillet seed by Brad Garrett,
but I'm just saying that the idea of are you
gonna be in the in Memoriam?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
What do you care? What do you care? Fifty million dollars?
Have your own in Memoriam, Make your own in memoriam, right.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Now, that's the thing they play when people have died
in the air we remember and just say uh and
here now Brad Garrett paid for this in an installment
plan before he died, Brad Garrett, and just you make
your own.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Video of how great you are if that's what you need.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Okay, are you gonna watch this thing?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
You don't want? I actually really enjoyed the show, did you? Yeah?
Did you? We have big everybody so that I didn't
enjoy it, just it wasn't in my rotation. It wasn't
my So what was in your rotation back then? I? Wait?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
So what year was this that we're talking about?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well, the thirtieth anniversary, it's twenty twenty five, nineteen ninety five,
ninety six six.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
So I have absolutely no idea. Oh, I have no idea.
What in the world I could have been watching in
nineteen ninety.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Melrose Place right, followed by Small Wonder, Yes, and The
Peach Pitch Show. What was the name of that would be? Wait,
the Peach Pitch Show? What's the name that was that?
Carl Sagan thing? Oh? Yeah, no, The Beverly Hills nine
o two one Hill Billies nine two yes, which I
think was off the air by ninety six. But then

(31:50):
they had nine o two one oh nights I think
they called it. Was there a nine two nights there
was that it was a gay Watch. You're getting it
mixed up with Baywatch. It was a bay Watch Nights,
which was on for what two years? If it lasted
that long? It competed with a VIP? What VIP? What
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(32:13):
Pamela Anderson VIP. I think she was some sort of
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Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh, Sean Baker loves Sean Baker. What else you got
news in the league?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
So, apparently Starbucks is losing hundreds of North American stores
as they continue to restructure their business. Tony, it's going.
They announced they're going to close one percent of their
locations in North America, one percent of the location.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
It in uh.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Business Insider has a list and of the locations and
it's it's pretty much all around the country, and I
thought I saw somewhere where I mean, I don't want
to That must have been another piece. I believe Starbucks
has thirty two thousand locations worldwide. That's a lot, isn't
that crazy? So they're closing them? Why?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
What is the what is the the issue?

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Well, they are restructuring the business, trying to become more profitable.
And we've we've heard since COVID, you know, people are
making business decisions about their coffee because they're looking at
the economy, They're looking at their current economic situation, and
they're saying, I don't know if I can afford seven

(35:47):
dollars cups of coffee every day.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Well, that's why you need the Maxwell apartment.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Maxwell Apartment delicious. I I wish that was the case.
I wish that people said, what am I doing spending
this money day in and day out? Make your own
den coffee? You would say so much.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I have seen nothing that proves that true. And it
but if you're telling me they're closing for this purpose,
they must feel it somehow. If they could also while
they're restructuring, get the baristas not to share their politics
with me, I would be most appreciative.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
You believe what.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
You want to believe.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I'm not here to tell you that. I just don't
want you to tell me what it is you believe.
I want my latte and then I would like to leave.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Please, that's not too much to ask? Is it too
much to ask? No?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Especially when you're spending nine dollars on that latte?

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Right, I'm buying silence. Let's make that happen. I said,
this was an opportunity for us to go small fires
More found the el buttone cameroon wrapper, the Firecracker Edition

(37:05):
three and a half by fifty cigar.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Well, what could I pair with this? How about it's
Kila bottle that's meant for an airplane.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Wow, we're going on a.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Trip te drink smoke.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker,
Fingers Moloy. The truth is, and I don't even know
how to say this, in the entire collection, we've tried
every bourbon I have.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Really, it's time for me to go shopping. Well, I mean,
if there's one thing that is enjoyable when it comes
to having to do a shopping trip, it's a bourbon
shopping trip.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, so we're gonna have to go and I'm going
to give us a budget and we are going to
buy the bourbon for the.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Next three months.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
So if you've got a bourbon you want us to try,
let us know, Fingers at Eat Drinksmokeshow dot com or
comment right there at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
You tell us and we will make that happen.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Also, I don't know if the cigars that we were
giving away ever went out. I have to double check
that because I owe some people some cigars and I
got to get there.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
You know what's funny is over the commercial break, I
just thought of that. I thought because I was opening
up the Instagram and thought to myself, ooh, I wonder
if those cigars that's done? All right?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
That's that's of this week Project Fantastic. We buy bourbon,
we send out free cigars. That's the kind of people
we are. But this is a tequila and this is
the Don Julio Blanco at tequila right here, Fingers. I
had it, and I said, let's drink this, because how

(38:41):
can you go wrong?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I thought you said I had it, meaning you had
some of it earlier. Oh no, no, no, earlier I
felt like having it, but I did not have it.
You know, we talked about the yejo's, We talk about
the reposados, things that are are a little more full
and a little more This is this is your basic,
This is your shot tequila. This is your down and

(39:07):
dirty margarita tequila. But canon hold up on its own
as just a basic sipper. More and more tequila going
on in America, people utilizing it as a sipping kind
of of drink. And we have had some really good tequilas.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Or we of course, as you know, just over the
past month or so, I've done some good RUMs.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I don't know what to think of this.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I don't even know where I got this bottle.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
It's a little mini bottle, a little mini bottle.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
I do not know where this came from. I think
this came as part of a gift. That's someone. Oh,
I thought you were gonna say Southwest Airlines. They don't
till they serve the Don Julio in the Southwest Airlines.
Let me check. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, I mean, in order to get Don Julio, I'm
assuming you have to fly TWA or brown if maybe
pan Am right, maybe America West back back in the
nineties to America West Air Tran Bravisimo, well done, we
well play it.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Haven't brought that one up in a while.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Do you like tequila in general?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
No, No, you're not a fan. And it is basically
because of college. And that wasn't a high end tequila
I was drinking.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
No, it was.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
And then on top of it, it was part of,
at least on a couple of occasions, the worst possible
shot you could ever buy someone. Yeah, And I think
that's just it.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
We were so wrongly introduced to tequila that we have
these ridiculous flashback kind of moments of what tequila did
to some of you.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
And when I say some of you, I mean all
of you. Any drink smoke nation. Have you ever had
a prairie fire? Is that what one of tabasco? Yes,
tequila and Tabasco sauce. I love me. It's exactly something
you would buy your twenty one year old friend on
his birthday because you don't like him.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, a prairie fire is what you drink when you
want to see it on the back of a toilet bowl.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
You're like, I wonder what that's going to look like.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
And then it splashes back and gets you in the eye,
and that's a that's that's a disease you have a
hard time explaining to your significant other.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Wow, all right, I'm I'm the only person who knows
that to be true. And it never happened to me.
I actually I had one before we got on the
air here and it blew out one.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Of Mike My lenses. First things first, this Don Julio Blanco.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
There's some nose here, but I'm telling you that's that
is a lovely citrus right there. That that you first
at first get that tequila. It kind of hit almost
like a tequila ethanol, kind of like college. I appreciate
people who like a fine tequila. Has never been in

(41:49):
my wheelhouse. Uh, but I'm always willing to try new things. Yeah,
I find myself more attracted to the two things that
have a little more just a touch more age and
a touch more depth to them. And certainly I'm not
the Blancos, the host work with me. I find myself
more attracted to the RUMs. I find that I'm having

(42:09):
this weird kind of fascination with Gin lately. It's so
weird because I'm trying Gin is so much on the
nose because of the juniper, and I'm trying to see
if I can catch different things out of the nose,
and therefore, can I really pick that out in the flavor.
Because gin as a taste is so simple right there,

(42:34):
there's so much more happening on the nose. So I'm
wondering if I could pick things out of the nose
to really match with a pal.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
But you're not smoking a cigar with the gin, are you? No? No, no,
just trying. Yeah, And again, I'm not really a drinker
of anything.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Which is one of the weirdest things that people find
out about, at least me, is that I leave it
all behind.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
I sip.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I want to get an idea of what's happening. I
don't need the rest I leave behind. You've seen it happens, glasses,
glasses of everything.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, same, it's not the same. Fingers, bioy, you you
ready for this? Sorry for this all day? He is
doing the Don Julio Blanco, doing what's known as the
Kentucky chew, and we do that with Burman moving around
the palate.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Really get an idea of those flavors. I'm a believer
in the two SIPs theory. The first zip taste bud
is a second sip really to get an idea of
what those flavors are. Fingers, you're you're right there with
the Don Julio Blanco. What say you?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I've heard it described as white pepper before. I would
agree with that really. Also, there is a tropical fruit
to it. It reminds me of those tropical fruit medley
cups that you would get your kids for their lunch.
A little bit of that as well. It's very nice.
You would never know that. What's the proof on this

(43:51):
is it? I believe this is eighty eighty proof. I
mean a hint of alcohol. There is a nice little
bit of warmth on the finish that reminds you, Okay,
there's there's some alcohol here, but there's no sting and
there's no burning in the chest, nothing that we would
expect from some of the bourbon that week.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
So the Don Julia Blanco is one hundred percent blue
ebrogave made in Mexico, eighty proof, so forty percent alcohol
by volume, and the nose is very citrus right, really aggressively,
so a lot of lemon lime going on there.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
But let us go in to you. He's going in
ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing well, we like to
call he's not even really doing the sag in us wish.
What do you think that's easier than I thought it
would be. Yeah, there's a little bit of sting on
the lip there, but it's just it's not syrupy. No,

(44:52):
it's it's just a sweet drink. Maybe there is a slow,
low heat middle chest.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Hold on, Oh, good for you go in for more?

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Uh? Do you get any of that pepper like? Or
you think that I think I got heat, Yeah, but
I don't know if I call that a pepper.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Maybe if I was drinking it outside of the cigar maybe, No,
I don't feel real pepper kind of hit there. The
question is, is the Don Julio in your liquor cabinet,
Fingers maloy, with all the other things that are in
your liquor cabinet, or is it just deep in the
recesses of your history?

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Find out.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Now?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I know, Fingers, you have been waiting on getting a Blackstone,
waiting till you're finally completely moved in, which has taken
nine hundred years.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
But the house finally sold last week. Yes, the the
the original un it's all done. Yes, everything is out.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
You have the money, Yes, you've you've rolled around in
it like your Scrooge McDuck.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
It's already gone. Oh Roulette wheel.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Nice, he didn't gamble, he just bought a really big
Roulette wheel.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
See drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite
amateur drinker. Fingers molloy, uh mozzletub. By the way, I'm
glad that that part is done. You have no idea
iNFiNiT right. It feels so good.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah. Now I just have seven thousand boxes in my house.
So you're still not unpacked. Oh no, I don't even understand. No,
I don't understand. Okay, you realize I just had eye surgery. Yeah,
we have family members who have health issues. We're traveling
back and forth up to Michigan for that, and then

(46:37):
I work ninety seven hours a week.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
So, if I'm hearing you right, a lot of excuses.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Did you just call me an excuse factory?

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I'm just saying, perhaps an excuse merchant, fair enough, but
I'm say purveyor of excuses.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
But also, in my defense, I really like boxes.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
So you have not yet gotten yourself a flattop, a griddle,
Blackstone or the backyard.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
No, I have not. I need that and I need
another grill. Oh, that's definitely happened. I'm doing a two for.
I think that's happening. So when you say two for,
you mean like a two and one kind of common unit.
You know, I'm getting a grill and a griddle.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
So you came across the story over there at j
dot com stands for New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
How's your mota? Uh?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Walmart has so many Blackstone griddles on sale for cheap
prices and an end of summer deal, and it has
a list of all of these Blackstones.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
And the question before us.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Is is this a good deal? Are these good deals? So,
for example, they've got the Blackstone iron forged four burner
liquid propane outdoor griddle for five ninety one instead of
six thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
That doesn't seem like much of a deal. No, it doesn't.
But you get down further on the list and there
are better deals. But my question for the griddle people,
and do you consider yourself a grid aficionado? So no, no, no, no, no,
I do not. I don't know how many how many

(48:07):
burners tow I need? Do I need three burners. Oh see,
I hope that one's on sale. I mean, how many
burners is? How is? How much space do you need?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
What are you really going to do with it?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
The problem, the reason I have not bought one yet,
and I would buy one just to have one, is
that I have no idea what my regular use is
going to be of it. So if I take a
look at the grill that I have, I have a
Weber Genesis, a propane. I've got the flat top in there.
I can throw it in there and boom. I could
be saute and peppers and onions for my fihidas or

(48:39):
whatever it is that I thought I was gonna do
and be like, Okay, that was fun, and then never
do it again.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
M right.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
So that's the issue, that's exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I have a pizza oven. I have a pizza oven
that I bought for my grill. I had to have it.
I've used it once.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
You want a pizza oven for the grill, you mean,
just like.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
The stone, it's a stone, but it also it's the
full So you've got the top there that will melt
the cheese instead of just putting on a stone. You
know how, sometimes it's a little awkward to cook because
there's too much. I've never done it. It turned out great,
and then I haven't used it since. So.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
I mean, they sell those pizza ovens and I could
write how much stuff do I need?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
And then you go to put stuff away in the winter.
I don't.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I want to be able to put stuff under a
cover and just leave it be. That's what I'm trying
to do. So I haven't gotten one yet.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
But how big you need it?

Speaker 3 (49:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
What do you want to do?

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Is this really about smash burgers or is this about pancakes?

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Is this about what is this about? So it's about
smash burgers. It's about breakfast, and it's not just pancakes.
It's about doing the eggs next to the bacon, next
to the potatoes, doing the whole thing all at once,
instead of different frying pans like a sucker, like a savage,
to have that whole griddle space there to do all
of that at the same time. It's about doing fried rice.

(49:58):
It's about doing Philly cheese steaks. You're never gonna do these.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Look at me, I'm fat.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I'm gonna do all of them tomorrow if I buy
one you're no, you're not. You are so full of crap.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
You're never gonna I'm telling you, you're not gonna do it.
This is ridiculous. You're gonna do it once and then
you're never gonna do it again. Let me tell you
how I know you. There's no shot.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Don't look at me like I've somehow insulted you. You're
never gonna.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Do this stuff. I dare you to do it. I
dare you to do it.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
You have often be called been called our generations Tony
Robbins for that reason. Thank you right there. I will
do all of that. Oh yeah, yeah, prove it well.
Which one of these deals am I going to take
advantage of? Apparently I need a seventeen burner Blackstone to
do all of this. Okay, you do enjoy smash Burger's right?

(50:53):
Oh yes sure? Now do you like to have the
onions cooking like smashed in with the patty or do
you like I'm on the side and on top. I
think they're fine on top.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
This one from Walmart is the Blackstone Patio Series two
burner twenty eight inch griddle with air.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Fryer, Oh, dear lord, with the air fryer, which is
the biggest load of malarkey the world has ever seen.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
And you can get this for six hundred and ninety
nine dollars.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Wow. And here is the Blackstone four burner thirty six
inch cooking station with the hardcover for three hundred and
forty four dollars. That's all you need, right, I gotta
assume that's all you need. I mean, my goodness. You
know we joke about the air fryer. You joke. I
take it seriously, But I don't know if I want

(51:46):
my air fryer in the garage.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
In the garage. You wait, stop, you put the Blackstone
in the garage.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeesh. I like to have my grill and my whatever
I use to cook in the garage. Wheel it out
in the driveway, wheel it back in. That's how my
Weber Genesis lasted thirty years without a lick of rust
on it. Putting it out with a cover. That sounds
wonderful in theory. And the next thing you know, you're
cooking in a rust bucket.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
You take it out every time every time.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Well, yeah, it has wheels. You just wheel it out,
you cook, you wheel it back in. This is gonna
be our first actual fight What the.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Hell is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
What is wrong with you? I get, listen, I get
some people like to buy a grill every two years.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Others of us like to keep our grill.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
You keep it in the garage? Yes, every day, Yes.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Nights too, I and on the weekends.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Now you're just talking crazy. Why wouldn't you? That is insane?

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Do you leave your grill out year round in the
snow with a cover on it?

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah? Wow? Yeah, you're living on the edge of my friend.
I don't know how that's living on the edge. Really
good cover, it covers it and everything. You know what
else covers it? Rust in about two years? Go look,
go look at my trigger, which I think I'm on
four years now. Didn't you have to have a professional

(53:14):
come clean? I had no arm surgery, I can tell
you in my garage mice in the UH. Never have
had a rodent in my grills as far as I know.
You know what worth it in and out of the
garage every time. It's wheels. What is wrong with you?

(53:34):
You act like I'm I need to sure but out
but get it out into the driveway. I bet I'm
not the eat, drink smoking nation who keeps their grill
in the garage, takes it out and then puts it
back in when you're done. Honestly, I don't know if
I'm gonna let you listen to the show anymore.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
If you do that that, if you if you stored
it in the garage for the winter, I could see
it in the summer, spring to fall.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Yes, I got my TV's out there. I can watch
TV grill, listen to my high Fi.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Your high fill in the garage, the real tape player.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yeah, absolutely, up the PATROLA. That's how I listened to
Day Last.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Soul A ridiculous nice pole.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
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Speaker 1 (54:22):
I'm Tony Katz.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
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We are drinking the Don Julio Blanco tequila right here
because I had I had a mini bottle.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
I had a mini bottle that you kind of see
like in an airplane, airplane size bottle.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
There we went minis and the Elbaton. We are smoking
with the cameroon wrapper from the good people at JC Newman.
This is the firecracker, which is a style that comes
from United Cigars and three and a half inch cigargoes.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Quick, kid, I'm surprised it is last this as long
as it has. I mean we're in the second hour
of the show, and granted we talk a lot and
we put our sticks down.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
You don't feel that you, because of the size, have
slowed down a little bit on it.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
There's some of that, yeah, but it has lasted longer
than I thought. Ten dollars a stick. I'm enjoying it.
I'll look for it on sale, yeah, but ten dollars
it's a little steep for me.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
So the only way to.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Explain the ten dollar thing is if you're only somebody
who has forty five minutes I see it. Yeah, do
quality and Cameroon. It's a great flavor and all the
way throughout Right now, I would say, I'm just in
a very tobacco forward kind of feel with this cigar
right here. But it might work for you at ten bucks.

(56:43):
It might be exactly what it is you're looking for
to your lifestyle, to your work life, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I will say this, for a lot of people, if
they were going to go out, you have no problem
spending ten dollars on an adult beverage that would last
half hours. So you know, what's the difference you're getting
a different kind of enjoyment in a half an hour.
Ten dollars may not be bad after all. I think
it's I think it's a very very nice cigar and

(57:09):
flavor wise, it's just not my size. That that's all
there is to it. That that's that's the only story
that that I have.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Tequila is lovely.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
The question, fingers maloy, is the tequila we forgot to
talk about? Price? Is it in your liquor cabinet? I mean,
this is a seven fifty.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
We're talking about a regular sized bottle here, not the
mini Don Julio Blanco.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
What you're gonna You just stepped over all my joke
that I was. You're gonna say the price I was
maading for.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
That little mini bottle? Oh my god, Sorry, It's okay.
Forty dollars U me either.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
If you like tequila and it's your thing, I could
totally see it. I could see it. If you wanted
something different at your lounge, you want to pour, I would.
I would try it. It's just it's not my drink,
so forty dollars I would probably.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
The one thing I would say is if you're doing margarita's,
there's a real nice lemon lime hit going on. Right,
It isn't the richness and the smoothness I would want
in a sipping tequila. But if I'm looking for something
that's going to now we turned into frozen Margarita's or
Margarita's and by the pitcher, sure you're you're stepping it

(58:21):
up from whatever the well is and it's it's got
it just has a good brightness, right. It does have
that agave taste, it does have that traditional tequila kind
of taste, but it does have that nice bit of
lemon and it's got some good fragrance to it as well.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
And so for that, sure, if it's in my.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Liquor cabinet for something that I'm going to do and
have a sip of as you finish yours.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Now, it's that that it's just it's again that's not
the tequila I'm going for.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
But for purpose, sure, sure, because it's it's a nice
little step up and I think there's some value in
that for the fragrance and for some of these flavors
which are nice.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yeah, I finished mine. It's it's but it's it's one
of those things where I would be buying that bottle
to have it once every six months, and I just
to me, I would rather buy a bottle of bourbon
at that time.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
I wouldn't even be doing that.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
It would be for purpose, for purpose. Sure, it's time.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Fingers below for news of the week, Tony.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
The New York Post has this story young singles are
giving up on dating for this startling reason done dun dum.
So there was a study done over at datingnews dot com,
which is where I get all of my dating news.
It's a one stop shop for dating news. Forty three
percent of young US singles are going on fewer dates,

(59:43):
thirty seven percent are cutting back on dating in general.
And the reason why For a third of those people,
it's because of the economy. It's too expensive to date.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Okay, so there's a problem with this story from the beginning,
and maybe you article there tells the story.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
What kind of dates are they going on? Well, they're
using gen Z as an example. Well, there is the problem.
But gen Z has a problem with this, and I'll
get into that, but talk to me. Many of them
are drowning in debt, so it's understandable that they do
not want to date during this time when a round

(01:00:23):
of drinks and a few appetizers can easily cost well
over one hundred dollars, especially in New York City.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Well, first things first, we're not talking about New York City.
Life is not New York City. Cut it out with
the freaking New York City nonsense. Gobbled the book bull crap.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
That's number one. Yeah, it's only eighty dollars in central Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
So as we come to you from Indianapolis, Indiana, here's
the problem that I'm hearing about that on the dating
scene high school college, there is an expect that seems
to be in play of we have to go to

(01:01:05):
this kind of place and it has to be this
kind of meal, in this kind of and my kids
are like, yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm absolutely not
doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
If I have to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Prove myself in that kind of way for someone, I'm
just getting to know, no, no, no, no no. And
so the problem is that in gen Z, which I
have a lot of faith in for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
The expectation is ridiculous. And whoever filled their head with
this expectation is a terrible parent, Thank you. There's a
lot of I know my worth and I'm worth more
than a coffee date. You hear that a lot, But
what I don't understand is say you take your first

(01:01:56):
date out to some fancy dinner at a restaurant, but
you know seven minutes in that you never want to
see this person again. Wouldn't you rather? Even on the
other end, unless you're just totally desperate for some expensive dinner,
want to bail as soon as possible. That's what's so
great about a coffee date is that you can sit back,
have your cup of Joe, and say six minutes and

(01:02:20):
you know what, clearly we are not meant to have
a second date. I'm bailing, yes, and I think that'd
be better for everybody. But what's weird is that we
see so much of hookup culture.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
You see so much of the online dating stuff and
the hey, let's just you know, make this happen kind
of stuff. They'll do that, but for the date they
expect all of the of the trappings. The I'm not
opposed to the trappings, ladies, and know I am pro trappings.
It's just that it doesn't It shouldn't come on date one.

(01:02:55):
It has to come over time. And I don't think
there's anything wrong with that. I don't there's anything wrong
with with setting the expectations of things growing from that.
But if your focus is how much will they spend
on me and ladies, I'm talking to you, it's the
wrong focus. Now that's different. Then he won't spend anything

(01:03:18):
on me. That's a very different thing. And you're supposed
to not be with that guy. How about this for
the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
The study also revealed that nearly one in four said
they would rush their relationship timeline and move in together
so they could split the costs of living expenses.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Talking about relationships, were were talking about roommates, Which what
are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Because if we're talking about roommates, go right ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
But that's not relationships. Well some people are who are
married or just roommates. Well, that's just awful. That's that's no,
I'm not even looking at you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
That's just that is just awful.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
We should talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
So I think the idea of these little robots that
do the delivery this, this is the sign of the
end of days, right, Yes, this is living in wally.
We are all doomed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yes, Shalla la la t drink smoke, nicely done. I'm
Tony Katz. That is fingers, while I find it all
at Eat Drinks, Smoke Show dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Door Dash customers in Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
If you get the door Dash, it's gonna be delivered
most probably by something called a Dot. It is an
autonomous delivery bot named Dot, the first such robot with
the ability to maneuver within bike lanes and on roads
and sidewalks, built expressly for local commerce. The only thing
worse than this idea is the idea of drone delivery

(01:04:54):
of your stuff, which means a people are going to
get decapitator.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
The drone is going to come in hot. Yeah. I
was visiting my daughter, she goes to college, and I
was on her campus and it wasn't a door Dash bot,
but the campus, their food service through their cafeterias, has
one of these robots that goes around campus. And I
was driving down the road with her and I said,

(01:05:20):
what the hell is that right, and she said, yeah,
it's one of these robots that delivers food to your dorm.
And it creeps me the hell out. It is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
If you're asking, or if you're saying well tony with
well fingers, the technology is coming and you got to
stop acting like ridiculous old people and get used to it.
I would say to you that you're the problem, the
enemy of all humanity. There is no way that these
things don't end up in a local retention pond and

(01:05:51):
we find out whether or not your robot can float
or is it a witch. That's what's gonna happen. There's
not a question. This is this is we are kidding ourselves.
This is NFTs all over again.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Here's my problem. I have an internal struggle really about
these things. On one hand, right, it helps me avoid
all human contact, makes fingers molloy very half it does
so the idea of some sort of RoboCop showing up,
some sort of android, some sort of cart with a

(01:06:28):
iPad on it, delivering me my food that appeals to me.
But let's be honest, at one point they're going to
rule us all robot. Yes, they're going to take over society.
They're going to run things right, and then we will
be delivering some sort of fake food to them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
So here's what's going to happen. If I'm may the
robot is going to come to your house delivering your What.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Did you get delivered? What do you get delivered from
the robot?

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
What do you order. I didn't order anything. What would
I order?

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
A Philly cheese steak.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Philly cheese steak is going to come to your door,
and and while it's it's it's coming up to your door,
the robot is taking pictures of everything of your house,
of you, of the surroundings, and then it's going to
sell that data to all these companies that are in
your market. Hey, I see your hedges are looking a
little rough. Here's some here's some hedge trimmers. And oh hey,

(01:07:20):
looks like you need some paint. Here's a whole painting deal.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
And that's what this is, them accumulating data on me
and then selling it to others.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Who are going to abuse me with all of their offers.
And I didn't get anything out of the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
You got a cheese steak.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
No, no, no, I ordered a cheese steak. I didn't
give up my soul to get said cheese steak.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
You got the cheese steak without having the interact with anyone.
Whiz is not that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Much of a high ticket item in my view, in
my lifestyle. So this is part of the problem. And
the and the other problem is it's it's there's no value,
not better off because the robot delivered it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Are we better up with AI?

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
We can be. There are a lot of things that
are worthwhile in the world of AI. But if we're
talking about condensing all of human knowledge into something you
look up as opposed to something you learn or engage with,
we've got ourselves a real fundamental issue with how as
a society we move forward.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Can we branch off for a moment?

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Sure? And it kind of revisit the story we talked
about in the last segment regarding how dating has become
ridiculously expensive for something. And while I have empathy for that,
and at the same time, I hear stories of I've
got a daughter who's in high school and she has

(01:08:44):
friends who will door dash Starbucks before they go to school.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
And it's like, if we had that much horrible parenting,
if we have that much money where high school students
can door.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Dash a cup of coffee to the house.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
And I know not everyone has the means to do so,
but it does feel like while the economic the times
are somewhat tough, was as inflation has ravaged the dollar.
Having said that, we spend a lot of money on
useless crap, I swear to you right now. If if

(01:09:24):
your daughter Jordash is a coffee, I'm gonna have words
with her. And I believe the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Most I've ever said to your child is hey, I
think that's the grand total. I actually think that your
kids are afraid of me. I don't think I've ever
said this to you before. I think your kids are
very scared of me. You think so, Oh, yeah, they're
not scared of anything. Oh, they're terrified.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Actually, they're not even scared of the eventual robot takeover
that will happen sooner, rather.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Than just you know, my children aren't afraid of you.
It's that when I first started talking about you, Fingers Maloy,
Fingers Maloy, they thought I was talking too fast and
they thought you were Fingers my lawyer. And to this day,
some fifteen plus years later, you are known as Fingers
my lawyer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I've been called worse, but you have to admit that
when you hear things like that. Parenting has gone to
hell in a hambas But we apparently there's still a
lot of discretionary income out there if you can spend that,
and then on top of that, you've got all the
subscription to all the streaming services and all the other stuff.

(01:10:32):
People are very comfortable saying I don't have the money
for certain things, but yet I door dash seventy five
percent of my meals. Take that money and put it
into a fund that's tied to the Dow Jones and
just let it grow and see where you are in
thirty five years. Take that money that you spend in

(01:10:52):
a month and then take off twenty percent to buy
your own damn coffee and make send put the rest
into the fund and just start letting it grow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Can we teach some basic economic theory? For the love
of God, If you let your kids DoorDash.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Starbucks and you've watched it happen and you don't stop that,
you're a garbage parent. You're saying it should be duncan.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Well, clearly that's not the point. Oh my god, I'm
I'm mortified.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
But it is. When we talked about this before on
the show, it is amazing how kids can go through
K through twelve education and not have any idea on
how they should be coming up with a budget investing
for the student.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
There are some.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
States and school districts that are working on this, and
I think that there should be whole classes on stock
X and there should be classes about how you do this.
We need to bring homech back into the world, not
only make your own food. How to balance a checkbook?

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I mean, you gotta learn a signature so you can
sign a check, to the extent that you might even
still write a check. These things matter so much more,
so much more than putting on airs and putting on appearances.
Make your own coffee, make your own lunch. This isn't
just true of the fifteen year old. This is true
of the twenty five year old.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
My oldest daughter is a college senior, and the story
she would tell me about living in the dorm the
first two years and kids living in the dorm not
even being able to do their own laundry, don't have
any idea how to load the laundry into the washing machine,
how much soap to put in, completely clueless. It's like
you're you're a college student. You didn't do any laundry

(01:12:39):
at home? Did I? Or did I not say terrible parenting? Yes,
and I mean it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
That's terrible parenting.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
And I might be insulting some people and eat drink
smoked nation right now, I'm not trying to insult you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Fix it. Stop doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
We are not doing ourselves any favors or kids any favors.
This goes into a whole conversation with we were gonna
do the story, we'll have to do it next week,
about the idea of the psychology of these parents who
want to be their kid's friend.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
But you're not the friend, you're the parent. It's a job.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Do the job.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
You could still enjoy them. It's easier to be their friend, though,
but it's not meant to be easy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
If you want it to be easy, that's that's just weird.
You become an uncle, right, that makes perfect sense.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Drinking of the Don Julio Blanco tequila forty dollars a bottle.
If you're making a picture of Margarita's, sure, go right ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
And the Elbaton cameroon wrapper firecracker size three.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
And a half by fifty Nice smoke. It was nice.
See drink smoke