100 Episodes Later, Academy Still Snubs Horror

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James Jay Edwards (00:24):
Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official
podcast of iHorror.com. This isepisode 100. Otherwise known as
season six, episode one. We madeit to triple digits guys How
exciting. This is. This is a bigday for us. Yeah, it only took
us six seasons but hey, here weare. I am your host James Jay

(00:47):
Edwards and with me as always isyour other host, Jacob Davison,
how you doing Jacob?

Jacob Davidson (00:51):
Doing good and can't believe we made it a full
century. Century 100 years ofiHorror

in dog years, maybe I don't know.

Either way.

Also with us yet again, as always is your
other other host Jon Correia Howyou doing Correia?

Jonathan Correia (01:11):
Doing great.
It's our sin cheryan episode,

Centennial episode

since cheryan.
Cinterion we're not good at mathor English. We're proving right
now. I made a social mediaposting. This is our season five
premiere. Apparently we'vealready done five seasons. I
don't know. This is our sixth.

Unless we were wrong all last season. Did
we skip a season somewhere?

It's easy. It was easy to lose some time space
continuum.

Time is but a construct

Time flies when you're having fun. Yeah,

we haven't done we haven't talked in a
while we took our little seasonhiatus. And we have a lot to
talk about. So if you like thepart of the show, where we just
kind of shoot the shit before weget to a topic. I think you're
gonna love today's episode,because there's going to be a
whole lot of that. And I want tostart with something that's kind
of old news by now. But I knowall three of us have seen it.

M3GAN, oh, M3GAN.

I let me go first. I freaking love M3GAN I
had so much fun with M3GAN and alot of people are saying it's
like Chucky or Annabelle it'slike no this is Deadly Friend.
This is Cravens Deadly Friend.
But updated with you know, itwas? Sure the ending is pretty
much telegraphed. And kind ofthe way that the ending of
Aliens is telegraph, actuallyexactly the way that the ending

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of Aliens is telegraph. Um, Ijust had so much but it's not
real scary. It's just just a funthrowback.

And that's the thing. I saw some complaints
where people are like, Oh, thisisn't original killer robot,
sentient thing has been done.
It's Childsplay it's this it's,it's like, yeah, that's fine.
Like, I'm all game for redoingsomething, but like putting your
own spin on it. And I thinkM3GAN was very successful with
that. I really dug a lot of thethemes of fear of like

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technology and privacy and likethe unkeptness I mean, we had
the recent Child's Play remake areboot that Did you know, the
making it a robot and had that,and I liked that. With M3GAN,
it's the reason why she's the AIis doing that it's just because
of pure negligence on the partof the Creator. Like she knew.

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Oh, yeah, I probably I shouldhave put up these parameters.
And M3GAN even calls her out onit. Like, you just threw me
together and expected me tolike, know what to do.

Here your problem, this doll set to evil.

Yeah. And then and then on top of all that, it
just, it had this like nicecampiness to it Yeah. That had
like those those hints of likeHagploitation type humor that I
just adore. So I had a lot offun with it. For like, almost no
complaints. I mean, it was itwasn't a scary movie. There were

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some parts that were like prettygnarly. Like she's chasing that
kid.

Yeah. And, and also, M3GAN, M3GAN is kind of
scary, because I feel like theyreally nailed down the uncanny
valley. Aesthetic with fur, youknow, because it's like, she's
this living doll. And I lovethat, you know, even the movie.
People are freaked out by herthe first time they see her like
that camp counselors like, Oh,holy shit.

Oh, you're a robot. You're not another child.
Yeah, I think you're I think youbring up a good point. They
really use the uncanny valley totheir advantage. Like they knew
like Alright, cool. Like, we'rejust gonna lean into it a bit.
And effective. Yeah, and

M3GAN also is just a compelling horror
character. As she has somepretty funny bits, like I still
can't get over, you know, justlike the, the creator scientist
is saying, you know, just howshe killed all those people. And
M3GAN literally says, oh, bigwhoop, yeah.

And then the dance that kind of gone viral.
Yeah.

Yeah, no, that went on Tik Tok.

It went viral it went on Tik Tok, and then
even, but when the scene cameup, I recognized the hallway
from all those bits. And I wasnot expecting it to be used that
way. Like I thought it was gonnabe like something else. And then
like, so the fact that she justdid it to freak the fuck out of
that guy was phenomenal. And theneedle drops the music choices
in it. She just started singingTitanium. Oh, dude, when she

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started seeing titanium, I waslike, there's gonna be so many
drag queens, and WeHo dancing asM3GAN over the next few months.
It's gonna be gorgeous. This isgonna be beautiful. I love it.
And she started playing toysoldiers at the end of the year.
No, come on.

One of the fun things about it. And I know
that Jacob and I both saw prescreenings of it. And they
always for these pre screens,they put a slide up, which is
usually a static slide.

Yeah. It's like the title card.

Yeah, it's like a title card. So this one
and when when we were allsitting around chatting, wait
for the movie to start. And oneof the other critics that was
there. She says, did that didthat doll just blink? And we're
all No, no, you're you're You'reimagining things. And then a few
minutes later, M3GAN on screensays thank you for coming to my
movie and scared the crap out ofthe whole theater. And right.

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And then every five minutes shesays something I remember to
turn off your phone, you know,or your stuff like that. So the
new batch of people that come inafterwards, we get scared nobody
could watch them get. It was sofunny.

Ya know, and also she even did the keep your
phone's silent and don't talkduring the movie, or else.

Yeah, well, she got nastier, nastier as I
got closer to zero. I'm seriousturn your damn phone. Kind of.
It was funny.

I before we leave M3GAN though, I want to
talk about the most horrificscene in that movie. And that is
when I'm blanking on thecharacter's name, but the person
who creates her she openscollector's toy box and they're
like, oh, just play with thetoy. She could have easily just
like you know, broken the sealopen it nicely kept the box

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intact. No, she fucking cares itto shreds. What would why? Why
she's like, Oh, I'm a collector.
I don't want this kid playingwith my collector toys. And then
she proceeds to shred the boxlike that. That was the
gnarliest kill of the movie. Ireally was

gnarliest kill

gnarliest kill that I almost screamed.

Another thing that we've all seen that I think
I think we're gonna have thingsto say about is Knock at the
Cabin.

Oh, yeah.
Yeah, just saw that one lastI smell a minisode.
night.

I have made no bones about being a Shama
It, maybe,well at the center of it. And I
fan. I mean, I, everybody knowsI'm a big Shyamalan fan. And
was talking with another criticbefore we went in who was trying
here's my take on Knock at theCabin. I absolutely loved it
until I didn't. And what thatmeans is I was a little let down
by the ending, I think it mightbe that I expect a little more
to explain to me the center ofit, without spoiling anything,
from Shyamalan and his endings.
And granted this was based on anovel. So he may have been a

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little more true to the sourcebecause he had I don't watch
trailers really, unless it's onematerial than it would have been
if it hadn't been an originalstory that he had written. But I
kind of as the movie is going onthere are trying to be vague,
because I think movies arebetter if you don't know what's
going on with them.

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that everyone's talking about,and I have to see it. But he was
the way he explained it isthere's this ethical dilemma,
similar to the if you could goback and kill baby Hitler, would
you? And then his wife took it astep further. And she said, it's
not even that it's like, Wouldyou kill baby Hitler if he was
in a room of five babies, andyou didn't know which one was
baby Hitler. So you had to killall five of them? It's, and I'm

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like, okay, you know, and afterseeing the movie, it's not quite
that drastic, but that is theethical dilemma at the middle of
it. And as it's playing out, youcan it can go one of two ways.
And if you've seen it, you know,the two ways that can go and I
think that it went the wrongway. I would like to have seen
it go the other way. And I'mbeing vague, and maybe we'll get

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some spoilers with your guys'sassessment of it. But the thing
is, I was on the edge of my seatfor the whole damn movie. I
think Batista is amazing. AndI'm glad I finally see him in a
role where he got something tochew on. And also really good is
the little girl. Actually, Ithought the whole cast was
amazing. But mainly Batista andthe little girl I don't know her

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name. And, more importantly, theway that they interact like the
very first scene is whereBatista meets the little girl.
And, and that scene is just likeso competitive. It's the perfect
rope you in scene, because, youknow, he knows why he's there.
And he's struggling with it. Idon't know. It's, uh, I like I

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said, I loved it until theending and then I was kinda
like, you know, I wasn't, Ididn't hate the ending in and I
don't hate the movie. I reallyliked the movie, but I thought
it should have gone another way.
What about you guys?

I gotta say I, honestly, because I messaged you
guys saying I have a lot ofopinions about this movie. And
so I gotta say, I think it'sprobably the best thing that
he's put out in the last like,15 years.

Really better than Split?

I like it. I kind of like it. I yeah, I think
it's more solid than Split.
Mostly because I have issueswith Split. Though the acting is
phenomenal. I thought Batistawas great. All the characters.
It was, it was an interestingtake on the home invasion story,
because it was home invadersthat were reluctant, but like

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needed to be there. Like theyhad a cause they had a purpose
of being there. But they werevery reluctant about it. So so
much of the movie is just themtrying to appeal on an emotional
level for this family to makethis decision.

Yeah, they're struggling with themselves and
with the family that they'retormenting.

Right. And I thought they did a really good
job of, because if you've seenthe trailers, you know what the
dilemma is we're trying toavoid, you know, talking about
it too, too much, in case youhaven't seen anything. But
there's this particular dilemma,and essentially, the family kind
of splits. And, you know,there's the is this real is this
not and I thought they made somereally compelling points on

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whether or not but one of the,because the family that is being
attacked is a same same, gender,parents, you know, they're both
gay men. And I think that's myonly real, like critique of it
is that they do a really goodjob of showing that this family
is full of love, that there's alot of like, thriving in it that

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you know, in the daughter hasthis great moment where in the
very first scene with Batista,where she's like, you know, she
says, Oh, yeah, you know, daddy,Eric, daddy, Andrew, I have to
do that to differentiate them.
So I know, so they know who I'mtalking about. And he's like,
Oh, how does that feel? She'slike, it's good. Except my
guidance counselor says howgreat that is a bit too much. So
I kind of get the feeling thatit might not be is how she

that she doesn't think it is. Yeah, yeah,
that was a great line.

There were so many great moments with that.
But one of the things that I itjust a there was so much
thriving and showing the familyI was a little little
disappointed that one of thereasons why one of them is so
doubtful that, you know, thedilemma is real is that it's
based in trauma of him beingattacked. In Boston, I was I was

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a little disappointed with that.
In that it was just like, ah,like, there's some, you know,
when it comes to portrayinggroups that have so much that
have had so much trauma have hadso much it's, it's, we're at a
point where it's just too almosttoo much. You know, it's kind of
like, what Orange is the NewBlack, where it's just like,
every week, it's the it'sanother story of trauma, and
we're not seeing stories ofthriving, so I was just, like, I

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understand why it was included.
And I honestly don't know howyou could cut it out, you know,
but I was I was just hoping thatthat wasn't an element of it.

The home invaders went out of their way.
They even said at one point,they're like, you know, we
didn't know the people who wouldbe here we're going to be a same
sex couple. They said that thatwas a big surprise that was out
of left field. This has nothingto do with that. So they even
know how what they're doingcould be portrayed.

And, and I liked that the couple were like,
well, how do we know? Oh, Iguess we're gonna have to take
your fucking word on it. Yeah,so like that's and that's
totally understandable with allthat and I do like how
especially Batista has characteris that you can see him
navigating his verbiage, youknow, because he says that he's
a second grade school teacher.
And so he knows how to pick hiswords and even says at one point

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how important it is becausechildren believe everything that
you say. And so you have to useyou only have to speak in truths
and stuff that you know as factand things of that nature. And
you can see that that line comesvery later in the movie, but in
looking back on the rest of themovie, you can see that he's
been doing that this whole timeand just trying to speak as like
straightforward and with as muchfat as he as he believes and

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knows so

he's this big like wrestler type, you know,
he's Batista, but you can tellfrom the first scene I mean, it
didn't surprise me at all thathe was a teacher it that his
profession was a teacher becausehe's so good with her and part
of it, it you're kind of goingokay, what's his angle? This is
kind of creepy, but part of itis he genuinely cares about what
he called his new friend. Youknow, the little girl

regardless of how people felt about the movie,
I have not seen one complaintabout Batista, his performance
and personally having just seenit. I forget maybe his his best
performance yet. Like it wasvery, very solid and just very
against type and just ascompelling throughout the entire

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story as it unfolds, also, heonly raises his voice like, once
during the movie, like he isvery, very relaxed and trained
through, you know, every fan.
And on my perspective, I gottasay, I haven't seen you know, a
lot of Shyamalan's, more recentwork, but this is probably one

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of his best movies yet.

No, it's really solid. I really dug that.
If I know Jay says he hasn'tseen the trailers, but the
trailers really do try to makeit play up a bit. Like it's a
bit more action a bit morethriller II, but I really liked
the idea. The I always love theconcept of like, a home invasion
story that's more philosophicalthan it is about, like the

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violence at but still includethe violence, you know, of
course,

but it kind of reminded me of The Strangers
a little bit except not set atnight. Because a lot of it, it's
in basically the broad light ofday to I mean, they even, you
know, I mean, it takes placeover a couple of days. And they
even, you know, go to sleep, youknow, they're like, you know,
that everything happens duringthe day. So it's not like a dark

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movie. It I mean, literallydark. But it reminded me a lot
of The Strangers, you know,especially the whole, you know,
why are you doing this? Becauseyou were home, you know, I mean,
that whole, you know, that wholedeal

had a bit of that. It is interesting, because
it is kind of genre disguised asanother genre, because, you
know, again, can't really getinto it that much. But, you
know, it's not just a typicalhome invasion movie. I mean, it
is, but it turns into much morethan that. And I feel it did it

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in an interesting way that kindof plays into being a home
invasion movie, because itdoesn't stop being a home
invasion movie once you find outwhat else is going on. But it
does just kind of add add to theeffect even. And I agree with
Jonathan that yeah, just doessuch a good way of portraying it

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without falling into a lot ofthe cliches but also giving what
people want, which, yeah,violence.

Like you're, you're saying that, you know,
the whole movie, along with thevictims, the audience is
wondering, you know, is thisreal? Is this not? Is this real?
Is this not? And I think what Iwas struggling with with the
ending is I kind of wish thatthey went the other way. You
know, when it's finallyrevealed, as to the answer to
that question. I was thinking itmight. I wanted it to explore

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the other choice. And hopefully,we have piqued your interest
enough for you to go see it,because it is a great movie.

Well, and I think the one of the first of
all with that, the wholedilemma, no matter how you end
it, people are always going towant the other one, aren't they,
right, yeah. But I also, there'salso the other side of the coin,
where you're that you're alwaysthinking, man, what if it did
end the other way? How wouldthat have played out? And I

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think that this movie does thatsuccessfully, where it kind of
gives you kind of like, there'ssome aspects of The Omen where
if you think about the film in acertain way, where it's just a
bunch of, you know, that heisn't actually the son of the
day, we know what the sequencethat he is, but that leaves just
enough ambiguity that it's like,Fuck, what if Damien wasn't the
son of the devil, and GregoryPeck is just trying to murder

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his kid? Like, yeah, when youthink of it that way? You know,
there is that movie leaves alittle bit of the ambiguity.
This one doesn't, you know, withits decision, you know, it's
very concrete at the end. But Ialways liked that, that the idea
of like, man, that would havebeen cool. It would have been
cool. It would be cool DVDfeature, you know, to have like,
Oh, what if it went the otherway?

Maybe that's my gripe about it. Maybe it's if
it had gone the other way Iwould want to see this way. I
don't know. Because, again, I'ma huge Shyamalan fan. I
genuinely enjoy his movies. Ican't really defend the Last
Airbender, but the rest of hismovies I've really enjoyed. I've
actually gone up against afriend of mine who I always say

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that I'll put Shamel and moviesup against PTAs movies, and the
only one I think that that wouldwin on PTA side is Boogie
Nights, but we've had thatdiscussion too. But yeah, maybe
what you're saying is why Imaybe if it had gone the other
way, I would have wanted to seethe way that it had gone. Who
knows. Let's move on to anotherbig hit that the three of us

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have all seen. This one was kindof a viral hit. We've all
watched Skinamarink

Skidamarink a dink a dink a doo, I didn't
know that it was based on thatsong until Lindsey told me after
we watched it.

Yeah, no, I didn't either. In fact, like
just hearing that song throughlike clips on Twitter just gave
me like flashbacks to PBS orsomething because of that. that
TV show, you know,

what did you guys think of Skinamarink,

Endurance test

It very much is yeah, if you look up slowburn
in the dictionary, it's theposter for Skinamarink. If you
don't have patience, don'tbother.

It does take a bit to kind of draw you in. But
I saw it theatrically at Alamo.
And I think, you know, there's acouple of different ways to
appropriately watch this movie.
And theatrically is one of them.
Because, you know, we were inthe dark, and I have never heard
an audience. So silent asidefrom screaming, because yeah,
just you know, as soon as itstarts, just everybody just kind

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of quiets down. And we gethooked into seeing what's
unfolding. And, you know, thetension is building just people
could barely, you know, make itsound like I could have heard a
pin drop in there. And it was soquiet.

That's the thing. It's, it's not, I mean,
like, it's a slow burn, but thatdoesn't mean that you're bored
with it. It is like, I mean, Iwatched it on Shudder. But I did
have all the lights out. And itwas late at night. It was after
I had finished working. So I'mwatching this at like, 11pm. And
it is, you know, you it's, it'sIt's engaging. I mean, you're
the entire time, you're like,Okay, what the hell's going on?

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And then you're, like, 45minutes into it, and you're
like, Oh, I still don't knowwhat the hell's going on. But
I'm still invested enough that Iwant to find out what the hell's
going on. And it's weird,because if it's, it's almost
like a student film that justlike trods along, and it's the
kind of movie where you look atit, you're like, Oh, I could
have done this, you know, it'slike, oh, yeah, but that guy
thought of it first. But youknow, you're like, you're all

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this is one of those movies thatlike, it's creative. It's
increativity. You know, if thatmakes any sense. It's like that,
that, who would have thought toshoot this movie, like the way
he did? You know, like, if youwere going to take the concept
of, you know, these two kids,you know, in a house alone,
essentially, would you have madethat movie? It's it? I don't

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know, it's, it's almost like anexperiment, I would say,

oh, it's definitely experimental. I mean,
and when I say that, it's anendurence test. I realized I
just shouted out some words,with no context. And it's a
positive I, it's, I thought itwas phenomenal. That was telling
Lindsey that these aren't thetype of films, these type of
experimental films, I don'treally seek out too often. But I
am always happy to experiencethem. Because it does, it's it's

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different. It challenges me as aviewer. And it really is an
endurance test because of theatmosphere, it almost
immediately builds. And itdoesn't, there's not a lot of
like, peaks and valleys with it.
It just kind of stays constant.
So you're just constantly in thestate of like, Fuck what's there
and you're constantly it forcesyou to constantly look in the

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dark to constantly look atthese, like the grains of like,
the, of the film and to you'rejust always looking for
something.

Yeah, totally. And the thing is, I
don't know it was myimagination, or if a filmmaker
actually digitally manipulatedthe images, but yeah, you're
right. You're like, the camerawill just be in it's almost like
a sitting on the ground orsomething. I mean, it is, and
then you'll start seeing, you'llstart seeing things. And you're
like, Okay, is that me? Or isthat the movie? Yeah, it's
really, it's a creepy movie.

I think you only see one face, the entire
movie, like the entire movie isshot. Looking in corners, it's
looking at objects in the thing.
It's always a different anglethan what you it's not shot, how
you would normally thinksomething, a movie would be shot
and it doesn't play out. Likethere's long takes where it's
just sitting there. And then thecamera moves to reveal nothing.

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And then but you hear a voice.
And then it goes the other way.
And yeah, there's just, there'sso many interesting choices. And
I had this weird thought andsaying there because when a new
movie comes out, there's alwaysthat person is like, when's the
soundtrack going on? Vinyl?
There's no fucking soundtrack tothis. But Skinamarink would make
for a fantastic haunted housealbum. You just put that entire

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fucking audio play on a vinyl?
Could you imagine that? Justlike that playing in someone's
house. I'd also those kids. Wow.
Though, I would not have handledthat long. With whatever the
fuck was going on. We'refreaking out that first night
would not be building Legos.

About halfway through, I realized I'm like,
oh, you know what, this is whatit feels like to be a kid and to
be scared. You know? Like, itbrings you back you're like,
Okay, you know, this is youknow, that's what makes it
scary. Is the fact that it takeslike childhood trauma. It's
basically you know, childhoodnightmare. The movie, you know,

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is

Yeah, no, I think just rewatching it
reawakened some kind of kindredtrauma of you know, like waking
up before everybody else andwatching TV by myself in the
dark and seeing weird shit. Idon't know what to put into
context and just getting freakedout by the dark like it just
just really kind of unlockedthose memories and just kind of

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has that style that reallybrings you back like that is
kind of creepy. You know hownightmarish it is for people.

And it has one amazing scare that you guys
both probably know what I'mtalking about. It's a cheap one.
But it is so effective

the telephone not spoiling it because there's
there's a bunch of telephonestuff.

Yeah, there's a bunch of it. But ya know, that
got me. It was so funny. Becauselike, yeah,

that that got me because we tried watching it
the other night. And because ofmy work days and stuff, I fell
asleep. Never a sign of qualityme falling asleep during a
movie, by the way for people outthere. Oh, you fell asleep. It's
bad movie. No, that's not afactor. I'm just a sleepy boy.
So I woke up super early forwork the next day, yesterday.
And so I was watching it in thedark at like, 5:30 in the

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morning. And when that happened,I fucking jumped in my office
chair was just like, okay, yeah,you bastards. You got me. But
yeah, I really, I really enjoyhow much of that film is up to
interpretation. But there werelike, some really concrete
themes. They're playing withKinder drama playing with themes

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of, you know, the house issupposed to be a safe space for
children. And this isn't sothere were Hints and themes of
abuse in there of power of like,the or even divorce and that
effect on children and themtrying to create that space. But
yeah, I mean, who hasn't beenlike a kid up late and you're

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trying to be quiet trying to notwake your parents and so you
have the lights off, or you havethe TV very low? Or you're
trying to play with your toysvery quietly, and you're just
like, listening for sounds likeoh, no, if I woke them up,
they're gonna be upset or, oreven just like, What was that
sound, you know, and over there,and you start seeing things in
the dark corner, you starthearing things in the absence of

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sound, and I thought that moviewas phenomenal and playing with
that. Would I watch it again? Inot not for time, probably, you
know, because again, it is anendurance test. But I I I didn't
see it in theaters. I waited forthe Shudder for the sheer fact
that I knew it was gonna be aquiet movie. And the last thing
I wanted was to be watching itand hearing fucking, you know,

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Tom and all the Fast and Furiouspeople next door or whatever big
action film or an Avatar comingfrom the theater next door
ruining it, you know, but that'sjust me.

Yeah, again, I was fortunate and I think that's
why Alamo was such a greatchoice because they're very
careful about noise control.
Because ya know, that theaudience I saw with, you know,
just got dead quiet while wewere watching and they were just
as enthralled as I was. So itwas pretty good experience

of either you guys seen Sick, then?

Is that Kevin Williamson?
Yeah, the Kevin Williamson one.
It's on peacock.

Yeah, I was gonna say it might be on Hulu,
but yeah, I guess peacock. Itis. Basically it's about these
two girls who quarantine hitsand they have to, you know, lock
down hits and they have toquarantine so they got to this
cabin to quarantine. And it'sand then it just becomes a
slasher from there. And themotives of the slasher are, you

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know, they're well defined atthe by the time you get to the
end, but it's pretty much atypical slasher movie, it
doesn't have a super high bodycount. But it leans real hard
into the whole mask up vaccine,you know, it leans hard into the
COVID thing, which is probablywhy it's called Sick. I mean,
you could have made this movie.
And, you know, it could havebeen called, you know, summer at

(28:39):
the lake or whatever, you know,and, you know, but, I mean, it's
okay, I'm not loving it as muchas everyone else, because I
think I've seen so many slashersthat there was really nothing
new about this one, except thefact that it was set in COVID
times but you know,

Are we over COVID movies?

I'm not I mean, I if they're done. The
problem with them is andactually at this point three
years in, maybe this isn't aproblem. But um, what I think
about is when as soon as This IsUs the TV show which yes, I
watch take my horror card awayif you want that's fine, do
they? They would have like masksand Vax and stuff, you know, as

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part of their show, and watchingreruns that might look like a
time capsule rather than youknow, rather than time less. But
now that it looks like you knowCOVID may be here to stay. Maybe
it's not going to look as datedas I think it is.

I just feel because like I was interested in
seeing Sick but I you know, youguys know me. I've been working
as a COVID admin and film andtelevision for the last few
years. And definitely for me, itwas just like, I don't want to
spend my off time thinking aboutwork and like the second it's
mentioned suddenly it's it's inthe head of just like you're not

(29:59):
none And then he get upsetabout, you know, oh, your
character is not practicing goodprotocols or whatever, you know,
stuff like that. And I, I don'tI understand that it's
definitely a big part of theethos, it's definitely a big
part of like, what's going on,you know, and understandable but
like also a, I think I'm justexhausted from all of it. And
it's more so just that wholetime of it not being addressed.

(30:22):
And then like it being addressednot being addressed. Well, I
mean, In the Earth wasphenomenal. I think that's the
best movie to about COVID tocome out during COVID. But I
mean,

I think Host is, yeah,
I liked I liked Host but I liketo think about
Sick. It's funny, because at onepoint, the girl is running from
the slasher guy, and she finds acar. And she goes to the goes,
goes come on let me in let mein. And the woman driving the
cars like, where's your mask?
Where's your skin? And she won'trescue without a mask? It's kind
of I thought that was kind offunny. I'm like, oh, yeah,

yeah, but I don't want to check it out. I
just haven't had the chance towatch it on peacock. And in
terms of COVID movies, you know,I feel like it's still something
that well, you know, just well,like, yeah, of course, the
pandemic is still somethingpeople are grappling with, I
just mean, you know, especiallybecause the this movie is set

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during, like, the early parts ofthe COVID pandemic. And I feel
like we're still reckoning withwhat happened in 2020. So I feel
like if anything, you know, likethe arts are kind of the
unconscious of pop culture. So Ifeel like we'll be seeing more
kind of period pieces thatduring that time as we still

(31:37):
kind of deal with everythingthat happened since I think
you'll make

as you're getting more creative with it,
because you know, like wementioned Host but also
Skinamarink was probably aproduct of that kind of
filmmaking as well where youknow, you basically you're, you
know, you can use a singlelocation and a single camera to
do this kind of a thing. But youknow, like, like Dashcam was
another you know, I thinkthey're getting more creative

(32:02):
with how they make movies.
Because they have to you know,in order to get your movie made

and also Pearl kind of dealt with it to since
it was set during the 1910s flupandemic and was and you know,
was made during pandemic cornquarantine in New Zealand.

The whole reason Pearl exists is because
of quarantine because Mia Goth,and Ti West for like, let's
write a movie,

which don't get me wrong. I'm not against
like, the, the, like technicalsides of like things getting
made or how they're getting madebecause of it or even just like
a film being used as a way toprocess what's been happening
with COVID I think it's morejust a gimmick, the gimmick of
it, and that's and I thinkthat's why I haven't watched
Sick yet as it felt like exactlylike, Oh, it's a slasher, but it

(32:53):
takes place during COVID andit's just like, you know, rather
than it being a process it'sjust yeah, I think I'm over the
gimmick of it, you know, becauseremember how we had like
songbird or even that like heistmovie with Anne Hathaway where
it's just like, oh, its this butduring COVID It's I think I
think I'm I'm exhausted thosemovies or or the thought of

(33:16):
those movies I don't want tolike pigeonhole Sick or any
other movie as Oh, it says, Butwith COVID But there are
definitely those movies and I'mjust Yeah, but on the other side
of it like you want to talkabout processing Last of Us have
you guys been watching Last ofUs? Oh,

yeah. No, it's been Oh,

that's been a that's been processing first of
all fucking phenomenal. Holyshit. I think only episodes one
through three are out. So that'syeah, fourth

episode airs tonight.

Yeah, cool.
So I am not too far behind. Ijust caught up on White Lotus. I
don't know if you guys watchthat. But

we watched the first season that in one sitting
and so we're spacing out SeasonTwo as much as we can with White
Lotus is

season two's got your girl Aubrey Plaza in
it. Oh,

yeah, does well it's also got it's also got
my main Queen Jennifer Coolidgein it

Shes in both.

Yeah, she is fucking love Jennifer. Coolidge.
She

might be the only carryover Is she the only
one who's in Both Yeah,

she's the only one is in both seasons. And

actually Last of Us does have Armand from
season one of White Lotus togive you more. Oh

yeah, that's true. That's true. Connection.

Jesus Christ last episode was so fucking
good. I cried so much duringthat show. God damn.

Do you have to be familiar with the video
game to watch it because I don'tknow anything about the video.
Okay, no,

I played the games and like they really
established it on their own. Andsince it's Craig Maslin, the guy
that did Chernobyl, he does afew things that you may kind of
notice similar to how we handlethe disaster in that show with
this, like there's a couple ofcold opens that kind of examine
and display kind of the sheerscope of what a disaster they're

(34:54):
in because of the quarter sipsinfection. So it's basically you
know, just This fungus managesto adapt to humans, and it
spreads in such a viral mannerthat it's able to infect
millions of peoplesimultaneously. And that's what
kind of kick starts the collapseof society. And the other thing

(35:17):
is, it's a period piece too,because it's, well, the outbreak
starts in 2003. And it's set inmodern 2023. But in a post
apocalyptic version of ourworld,

yeah. And what what I really love about it,
first of all, the game isphenomenal. I have never beaten
that game, I always get to, Idon't think I've left quarantine
it, because I would always playand then something would happen.
Like I have to return the thedisk or I had to, I got
distracted with work. So I onlyever got so far, four different
times across two differentconsoles with it. And so by the

(35:50):
end of Episode Two, I turnedLindsey I was like, and that's
as far as I got in the game. Butwhat's great about it is the
game is phenomenal. The game isso focused on character, and so
focused on story. So it isalready very cinematic, it's
very episodic, the game and theyrespect the shit out of the
game. They have one of thecreators of the game be an EP on

(36:11):
the show, and he's very involvedwith it. And the EPs even said
is I've been watching the aftershows that when they're talking
about adapting the game, if theycan do if it's, if it's this if
when they deviate from what thegame does story wise, if it's
the same or worse, they don't doit. But if they can improve on a
bit and likely change one of thecharacters, like his story is

(36:35):
involved in in the overall storydrastically in the show, but
it's in service of telling amuch better story and yes, I am
referring to episode three whichis a real fucking tear jerker.
But it's yeah, it's been Oh,Jay, you got to catch up, man.
Because Episode Four premierestonight. It's so good.

Yeah, I definitely need to get into that
I just been. I've been busy withstuff but yeah, we got what
else? You guys have been seeinganything else? Cool.

Well, I did see the new Brandon Cronenberg movie
Infinity Pool ah,

ah, White Lotus for the Videodrome fans
ey?

is that what it is?

Is it because I said that and I want to I
haven't seen but

it kind of is because it is about like
Alexander Skarsgard and Mia Gothand all these others like
ridiculously wealthy white likemillionaires vacationing in this
third world country resorts andthen getting into trouble. And

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that's and a I don't want tospoil the I don't want to spoil
kind of the Sci Fi twist to it.
But ya know, they, let's justsay there's a way they could
avoid consequences with theirmassive amount of wealth, and
they start getting addicted toit. And yeah, if I'm Brandon
Cronenberg did a fantastic jobof you know, kind of building
this world and kind of it's notreally a body horror movie, but

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it is a very dark sciencefiction kind of moral
examination type of movie. Andhe's he's very good with kind of
the lore and world building ofit and also, I just really love
seeing Mia Goth just go 110%Because like she goes as hard as
she possibly can in this role.

I finally saw Holy Spider I know reviewed it a
few episodes ago and I gotta saybelieve the hype that Holy
Spider is fucking phenomenal ifhe can find it in a local
theater go see it it's Wow, wow,just blew me away. That I will
watch anything that directordoes now after Border and that
and Holy Spider binominal

Have you guys seen Pray for the Devil?

No.

It is that the one about like the they treat
like exorcists like soldiers ofthe Vatican and

little bit like yeah,

she's the first female exorcist or
something. But the devil isdrydock that trailer is so
hokey.

The movie is hokey too ya.

Is it fun hokey?

No, no, no, it's just kind of bad hook. And
it's weird because, I mean, notI don't feel bad because, you
know, I supported horror, but Iit was offered to me as one of
my offers on Vudu. And, and Idon't remember what I think it
might have been like, $9.99 andI think I got ripped off but but

(39:37):
it was. Yeah, it's I mean, maybeon a second watch. It'll be fun.
hokey, but it was just Yeah,it's, you know, it's one of
those. You can't be an exorcist.
You're a nun. You know, and, andthen there's, there's kind of a
fun little twist that you seecoming a mile away. About, you
know why this woman has to bethe exorcist. For this, you

(39:59):
know, particular case and it'syeah, it's not it's not worth
talking about too much becauseit's not really a good meat. I
was expecting it to be betterbecause it was kind of hyped.
There was a lot of hype aroundit but

if you do want to watch a good nun movie I just
watched Benedetta for the firsttime I've seen it Yeah. Oh my
god, I finally popped in like myimport 4K of it on Thursday
night and um, Paul Verhoevengoes hard man, Paul Verhoeven
bud,

I was gonna say all you need to say about it
is Verhoeven.

Oh my god you know that I finally there was
something that like would workas with as a double feature with
The Devils I think that's thehighest compliment I can give
that fucking movie

Yes, Greatest Nunsploitation double feature of
all

Yeah, oh, my goodness, like, ah, the what a
phenomenal performances the thisthe cinematography and the
writing that just phenomenal

master that farts fire. There's, there's

a part of there's the Jesus scenes Oh, my
goodness, it's blasphemous, butalso not as, what a what a what
a feast. That film was a feast.
And I gotta say, like, one of myfavorite things was readings,
like little factoids, and likethe original screenwriter, put a
lot of like, themes about womenin getting power and all this

(41:16):
stuff and like, took out a lotof the lesbian aspects of it.
And Paul Verhoeven put it rightback in and she's like, Yeah,
there's a second title to thatbook, and it's called the the
lesbian nun of Italy orsomething like that. And he's
like, I'm not going to do thatsecond title, a disservice. And
boy, did he not like, damn,like, it's not horror, but like
Benedetta like, if you'redisappointed with your recent

(41:38):
nun watching, it's becauseyou're not watching that movie.

And in terms of recent releases, Jason Eisenerz
Kids vs. Aliens came out, and Isaw it last year, but you know,
I was such a fan. I had to seeit again. So I saw it at Alamo.
And, yeah, I'm just reallyhoping Eisner gets more work
because it does such an amazingjob of taking a concept and

(42:07):
going as hard as he possibly canwith it because Hobo with a
Shotgun was like the ultimateGrindhouse throwback and Kids
vs. Aliens is the modern dayMonster Squad with kids fighting
some freaky as fire in the skyaliens.

Speaking of kids, you guys see Spirit

Halloween (42:24):
The Movie this is basically it's what you think it
is. It's it's a bunch of kidsbreak into a Spirit Halloween
store to like basically spendthe night there they they're
getting a little too old fortrick or treating. And so they
want to like have some real funquotes so they break into this
thing. And it's kind of apossession movie a little bit

(42:48):
because the spirit of of thefounder of the town or something
like that he he basically jumpsfrom item to item in the spirit
Halloween store and it also cango into people it's it's a
pretty fun little movie. It'sit's definitely made for kids.

(43:08):
It's like it's like a you know,it's a Monster Squad kind of a
thing. So if you're in the moodfor that kind of thing. Spirit
Halloween the movie it's prettymuch exactly what you think it
is. They made a movie about aspirit Halloween store, but they
found a good way to do it.
Because you know, there arepossessed, you know, possessed
skeletons and possess monsterdolls. And you know,

it's really fun?

It's fun.
Yeah, I mean, hey, more fun thanPray for the Devil.

Fair enough.

Hey, there's there's so much space for just
silly fun movies. And anyone whosays that that is a mark against
a movie. I will fight you in theback in the bar parking lot.

It's not quite as much fun as M3GAN but
what is a high bar? Yeah, Meganis a high bar. So with that,
let's move on to we're gonnathrow it back to our first
episode ever with this episode100 And this is timely because
the Oscar nominees wereannounced and it there's no

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horror not a single horrornominee and it's kind of
disappointing so I thought forsure media got stood a chance
and also but you would thinkthat something like Nope would
have gotten for visual effectsor I'm shocked that Bones and
All how did that not get? Howdid Bones And All not even get a
nomination for adaptedscreenplay? I mean, that's like

(44:32):
the Miss Congeniality of theOscars. I mean Nightcrawler got
adapted got nominated for that.
And that got snubbed andeverything but anyway. Yeah,
disappointing.

It's all the more insulting because if you
guys remember like a month ortwo ago, the academy shared on
social media Mia Goth in Pearlthe shot, so it really fired
everyone up like oh shit, is Miagonna get at least a nomination
this year? And then nothing solike what? Like, you did? You

(45:03):
done did us dirty, but I mean,yeah, this is it felt right to
revisit. Well, it felt right,but it didn't feel good
revisiting this topic for our100th episode, we did talk about
this six he sets five fullseasons ago because this is our
sixth one now. And that was what2018 So it's been five years
since we've been talking aboutthis. So to have to revisit this

(45:26):
topic of horror not getting thethe, the the accolades that it
needs, or even the recognitionis is heartbreaking. Especially
since again, though, how manytimes have I said that horror is
just a category it's just a wayof filing stuff away on the
shelf? You know, you can stilltell compelling stories, stories

(45:48):
you can still give compellingperformances. I mean, fucking
look at anything Flanagan hasdone Jesus Christ like every
single one of his projects hashad insane performances insane
writing and yeah, Where'swhere's the where's the Oscars
the Emmys? You know, for that?
And then yeah, this year, MiaGoth. We

we were making

headway as Shape of Water. And one best picture.

I mean, we we thought we were making headway
with it, but it's like, I mean,there's all that controversy
with Andrea Riseborough.
basically forcing hernomination. I mean, they're not
going to rescind her nomination,but supposedly she broke some
rules about contacting Academymembers directly, you know, and
stuff like that. And people aresaying that the real victim of

(46:33):
that of her nomination isDanielle Deadwyler for Till or
Viola Davis for Black Panther.
But I kind of think it's MiaGoth. And people are making it a
whole you know, Oscar, so whitething because the other two
actresses that didn't getnominated a black and honestly,
both of them, I think shouldhave been nominated Danielle

(46:54):
Deadwyler, particularly forTill, but Mia Goth. Absolutely.
That's a huge snub, anybody whosees and the thing is, I don't
think enough Oscar, voters sawPearl. You know, I It's probably
something that they justdismissed a slasher movie, you
know, because Oscar voters haveactually said that. They've
said, Oh, no, I'm not going toeven watch a horror movie.

Well, and I think one of the one of the big
issues with, with what's whatthe controversy of her getting
the nomination using agrassroots campaign because a
lot of it was her friends werehosting screenings and getting
people to watch and, and doingyou know, it was a real

(47:35):
grassroots campaign. And what itreally comes down to is who's
got the money to pay for I mean,let's not forget that Dr.
Dolittle, the original Dr.
Dolittle had like fucking 10nominations. And that movie
sucks. That's a terrible fuckingmovie. It did horribly at the
box office. And it got that manynominations purely because the
studios were pushing it. Theywere feed giving dinners, all
that stuff. And that's what alot of these nominations come

(47:57):
from, is who can campaign thehardest with money? You know,
that's

the thing, the it's not set up to be
grassroots, it is set up. Likethe rule she supposedly broke
was contacting Academy memberson her own rather than going
through the academy. Well, toget the academy to contact them
for you. I think it costs a 2000bucks. So basically, I think

(48:23):
she's skirted the rules to avoidpaying the academy and she's got
enough A list friends that itgot the word out. And that's
what I think the academy that'sthe rule that I think that she
broke, but they're not going torescind her nomination. I mean,
that would just be a PRnightmare. Because, you know, as
pissed off as some people areabout the nominations. It'd be a

(48:43):
worse black eye for them to sayyeah, no, we messed up. And
she's not nominated. And Ihaven't seen To Lesley I don't
think a lot of people have seento it. Well, maybe now they have
because it got nominated. But Iknow that in either of my credit
groups, they didn't send usscreeners of it no one I know
saw it until she got hernomination so it is an under the

(49:05):
radar movie or at least was anunder the radar movie that no
one had seen. Except for herA-list friends, the hostess
screenings I guess,

but also like the even then like I why not?
Like why can't Why and that'sthe thing too is that we see all
these other award ceremonieslike you know, you have this
Spirit Awards that focus more onthese indie films and

Golden Globes

and or even the Golden Globes is a bit more.
They have a lot of their ownissues too. But I mean, even so
like you know, you have to turnto other places in order to get
these because the academy youhave the whole gatekeeping of
just the money to campaign forit. But then on top of that
there's a certain mindset with alot of voters where they're just

(49:49):
like that. That's a lot of them.
Don't even watch the nominees.
Like I can't tell you how manytimes I've read articles where
they're like, Yeah, I justguessed what short looked best
or which you know, Short had thehad the name attached to it you
know and it's so it's so fuckingridiculous and so many

decisions are so arbitrary

especially things like shorts like you said
that were you know that quotedon't matter as much documentary
is probably another one wherethey're like all I didn't watch
all those I just thought Fire ofLove look the best you know,
which I'm trying to tell myselfthat's why Moonage Daydream and
Good Night Oppy didn't getNom'd,

but it's also but it also leads to other
categories that people becauseyou know everyone's thinking
about best picture or the bestactor but like, you can tell by
the nominee by the nominees andhow things vote, like, who's
gonna get like Best SoundEditing and stuff because a lot
of voters aren't payingattention to that when they're
thinking of that category.
They're just going oh, yeah,this was a really great movie.
Overall, I'm just gonna checkthem on everything. You know,

the number of sound awards that Christopher
Nolan's movies have won tellsyou that the academy knows
nothing about. Yeah, and this iscoming from a sound guy. Yeah,

and the Mia Goth even acknowledged kind of the

Even the ones that do get nominated. Like
Academy's aversion to horrorlike she'd been doing some
interviews and she knows evenacknowledges that too. You know,
that there's kind of a stigmaagainst horror in the
entertainment industry, andespecially among kind of the
critic than taste maistastemakers and, you know, just
the wildest thing though, isthat this was not always the

(51:22):
case. Like you look back in thehistory of the academy and of
Hollywood, like horror wasacknowledged and even won awards
like Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde, thehead actor, Frederick March, one
Best Actor for that one whenthat came out. And yeah, a lot
of stuff was also pre Hays code.
So I think, as I figured, youknow, there was this kind of,
you know, change over where, youknow, it's like, especially post

(51:44):
Hays code, like horror wasreally defanged, not
acknowledged. So I feel likethat's probably a factor but ya
know, even today, and there'samazing horror movies and
performances in horror movies,but there's still this stigma,
there's still this just an overtaversion or by people because
they considered themselves aboveit, or it's just, it doesn't fit

(52:06):
that kind of mold.
currently, like, like Shape ofWater. It was kind of it was
like subtle horror. I mean, it'sit was it's a creature feature,
but there's a bunch of otherstuff involved that they had to
sneak it by Silence of theLambs. You know, it's it's about
not one but two serial killers.
But they had to make it apsychological thriller. In order

(52:30):
to get it by didn't didSigourney Weaver get an Oscar
nom for Aliens? Um, I don'tthink so. Okay, I bet that that
would have been the exceptionthat proves the rule, though,
because there's nothing subtleabout Aliens. But it's,

it's just insane. And especially when
you're thinking about one of theI mean, obviously Everyone's
upset about Mia Goth, andrightfully so. But Nope, I
really should have beennominated for a lot of technical
awards as well. The technologyand techniques that they did to
pull off those shots of not justdoing Day for Night with like,

(53:10):
the lighting was insane in inthe detail, but still keeping it
dark on what they did. I I'mfeel really bad. I'm blanking on
how they did because I watched avideo on how they did it. But it
was insane. Like, just thinkseeing like the set it seeing
like, holy shit. That's how youlit it. That's how you lit this

(53:30):
huge space for the shots atnight. And you can still it's
still very dark, but you can Isee everything that's insane.
Like just thinking about it

on James, you were right. Sigourney Weaver was
nominated for Best Actress forAliens.

I was gonna say we were both we were both
she was nominated. Which is ahuge surprise because Aliens. I
mean, yeah, there you go. Sothere that's the exception that
proves the rule.

But going back to it, I think one of the it's
an institution right in theacademy. It's it's, there's
gonna it's it's it's it's likepolitics, man. There's just
there's just too much of the oldway in the way of like, seeing
much progress. And it's it'sweird because there's always

(54:23):
there's the sponsors. There's atelevision of it. There's the
televised, there's so manyfactors on why it's just not
working well anymore. And itunless there's a complete
overhaul. I think we're gonnakeep bitching about the Academy
Awards for decades to come.
Because I mean, I'm stillforever pissed off that Do the
Right Thing lost, you know, andthat was before I was born. I'll
always be mad that There Will BeBlood didn't win everything.

(54:46):
And, you know, and so I thinkthis temporary solution, or at
least the thing that we can bedoing as people who are pissed
off at the Academy is supportother awards. You know, the
academy only has the procedurebecause we give it to it. So we
need to participate and upliftother awards, I mean, we of

(55:10):
course all have FangoriaChainsaw Awards. It's one that's
solely focused on our favoritegenre. And they do awesome
stuff. Their presentation lastyear was so much fun to watch
and just as much fun toparticipate. And thank you Ama
for having Jacob and I on set,we had a blast. There's other
ones too. There's the RONDOAwards. I think we were talking

(55:33):
earlier about the Saturn Awards,like these are all valid award
systems that are givingrecognition to the genre films
that normally wouldn't get thatat the Academy. And I think the
more that people support thoseand the Spirit Awards, you know,
with giving more focus onindies, I love that the Spirit
Awards has a category where it'slike movies made for X amount or

(55:56):
less. That is, that's fuckinggreat. That is it really is the
spirit of it of indie torecognize, like, hey, they were
able to pull this off for verylittle. So yeah, just support
more awesome film fests film,you know, awards and bring them

(56:17):
up, get them to a higherpedigree so that they can get
more support and do more awesomework. Essionally

as a member of two critics groups support
your local critics Guild Awards.
Yeah. Because you have more of achance of getting although I was
unsuccessful in my bid to getMia Goth a Nom in the San Diego
Film Critics Awards, because,and this kind of pissed me off
because the same guy that I wastalking to at NACA, the Knock at
the Cabin, he didn't even watchPearl before nominees on the

(56:47):
call, bro. Killing me killing me

there should be like, like a thing. I don't
know how we do it. But theyforce all the critics to
actually watch the movies thatlike are up for it.
Understandably, that's a bigtask. There's a lot of fucking
movies released in

one year. But here's my problem with that, is
that we do these things calledThink lists where you where you
mentioned things you're excitedabout. And some people use this
just to list all the moviesthey've watched in the year. You
know, that's unreasonable. Butif there's something that you
that you're excited about, youput on this list, and then we

(57:27):
compile it, send it out toeveryone. And Mia Goth showed
up. If it's mentioned by morethan one person, we have the
number of people it's mentionedthat that person's mentioned by
and Mia Goth had a had a bunchof people mentioned her. So
everyone who hadn't seen it, atthat point should have gone and
seen it. But sometimes,sometimes they think oh a

(57:48):
slasher. But we did nominateDanielle Deadwyler, which we did
better than the Oscars. Alright,let's, let's, let's call this
one and episode. Before we go.
Let's, let's look back on 100episodes. And I'm kind of
putting you guys on the spot.
Oh, so I'll go over my favoritemoment from the 100 episodes.

(58:11):
And I think you guys know whatmine is. Well, our interview
with Charlie Clauser.

You mentioned how much you liked? How much you
liked doing that interview? Not

that I'm brought up. Not this episode.
No, I just think it was.
Honestly I've wondered aboutNine Inch Nails broken equipment
for like 30 years. And I finallygot to ask a member of the band
at that time about it. So whatabout you, Jacob,

I'd have to say when we had Steven Kostanski on
both because it was fun to talkabout Psycho Goreman. And it was
fun to kind of do our traditionof surprisingly guest was saying
and I'm blank. And that one wasa particularly memorable
instance.

I don't know if we've actually talked about
it on the podcast on how thatkeeps happening. But we do keep
failing to mention the sign offto our guests. And it's kind of
become a bit where, like anunintentional bit where if so if
you ever hear guests questionwho they are at the end, or it
sounds weird, it's because weforget to mention it and kind of

(59:16):
put them on the spot at the end

because that's what Steven Kostanski
did. His was a question is I'mSteven Kostanski. What about you
Correia

to pick a single moment is is really hard.
It's like picking your favoritechild because I mean, I'm
involved in the pre of theseepisodes so much so I am seeking
out people or interacting withpeople who reach out to us and
I'm just always so happy when weget guests on and we click. So

(59:50):
to pick a single moment is hardbecause we've been so fortunate
as a podcast to click with justabout every single one of our
guests. I can't think of onewhere we didn't have an awesome
back and forth. And, you know,this is a self five, you know,
iHorror is our home, and theyhelp they pay for the bills to

(01:00:11):
keep it up on the site. Buteverything else about this is
just the four of us. It's thethree hosts, and Lindsey, it's
our Lindsey are our silentpartner in this. And to see it
pay off. And we feel in themoment we're talking with
people, it's just so gratifying.
We get no money for this. We putwhat we can time and money into

(01:00:31):
it. And it's it's really great.
Feeling that and I, you know, wedon't always see interactions
with people who listen, when weget those interactions. That's
great, too. But yeah, I mean,it's, you know, we've been doing
this for five years now, and itdoesn't feel like a job, and
certainly feels more than ahobby. So, yeah, to pick a

(01:00:53):
single moment. It's

James Jay Edwards (01:00:55):
gonna say, have you given us an answer?

Jonathan Correia (01:00:58):
Yeah. I can't.
I won't. I refuse. I love doingthis. I love chatting with
everybody.

One fun moment we did have and you might
know the guy's name cuz I don'tbecause you pass it on to us.
But the guy who said that he waslate for work, because he was
listening to our Heather Wixoninterview. Because that one ran
long. And, and the guy's like,Oh, I got so into it. I was
late.

That that was one of the highest compliments
and we need Heather back, sheput out a second volume of work.
Heather, I don't know if you'relistening, but we're, I'm gonna
be DM you real soon.

We need to have her back for that. We told
her we'd have her back for everyvolume. Yeah, so we're behind.

But yeah, and if it yeah, if you're reflecting
on these past five seasons areenjoying it. Remember to
subscribe, reviews are huge. Soplease go out there and place
your honest opinions on us.
That'll help with our numbers.
And again, you know, we we'vegotten this we've gotten done
five full seasons withoutsponsors or asking for money. So

(01:02:02):
I mean, I think I think that'spretty cool. You know, I'm
really I think that's myfavorite moment. It's just how
we've just been doing this nomatter what.

Jacob Davidson (01:02:14):
Because we're friends we

generally Yeah, before we hit record, we
generally will shoot the shitfor usually like 20 minutes or
so. And I always joke with theseguys that if we ever do set up a
Patreon, which you know, I don'tknow that's not really in the
plans, but if we do, we justshould release the bullshitting
we do. What the people wantthat'll be a Patreon only just
shooting the shit

and our commentary track to Rampage
That's right. Yes, we're notgoing a full season without
mentioning Rampage.
Motherfuckers I just got aJapanese 4K of it and it is
dope.

Okay, you

Rampage will never die

On the mention of Rampage. We're going
to call this one and episode sothank you for joining us for
five seasons if you have orthank you for joining us for
this episode. If this is yourfirst one and if if this is your

(01:03:04):
first one go back to CharlieClauser go back to Steven
Kostanski. Go back to HeatherWixon Those are the those are
the good ones. Those Those ohthe fun ones.

And don't forget the Justins episode
Martell and Laliberty werefantastic

episode that Ama is on we've had her twice
any episode that Kelly and Briare on I think as Kelly been
three times now

she's up there are has been Waylon Yeah. Benji,
come on. If we have a guest onyou should check out those
episodes because absolutelythose every one we've had on has
been great.

Our music is by Restless Spirits to go give
them a listen and our artwork isby Chris Fisher. So go give him
a like. You can find us on anyof the socials under Eye On
Horror or at ihorror.com. So wewill see you in a couple of
weeks with more horror. So forme James Jay Edwards.

I'm Jacob Davison

and I'm Jonathan Correia.

Keep your Eye On Horror.

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