Dark Nature with Director Berkley Brady

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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official
podcast of iHorror.com. This isEpisode 105, otherwise known as
season six, Episode Six. I'myour host James Jay Edwards and
with me as always is your otherhost Jacob Davison, how you
doing Jacob,

Jacob Davidson (00:40):
doing good finally back on the West Coast
and had a hell of an adventure.
Back home in Massachusetts.

Yeah, we we missed an episode. So we have a
lot to talk about this time. Butum, yeah, sorry, guys. If you
wait with bated breath for ourepisodes, we skipped a week.
Also with us is your other otherhosts Jon Correia. How you
doing, Correia?

Jonathan Correia (01:03):
doing great.
glad. Glad to be back. But yes,our schedules have been fucked
to put it lightly of lately. ButJacob, you went to Salem horror
fest?

I did. I had a I had a short in the festival, the
October Martyr, which wasdirected and CO produced by Rob
Tiemstra who I had also traveledwith. And it was really nice.
I'd never been to Salem HorrorFest and it had been awhile
since I've been to Salem,actually. I'm from

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Massachusetts, but you know,made it up there every now and
then. And yeah, the festival wasgreat. I loved meeting Kay for
the first time she runs afestival and I met a lot of
other great filmmakers. And itwas very accommodating. I got to
see a lot of interesting shortsand films. And yeah, right now
hoping you know, see whathappens with the artists awards.

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Fingers crossed.

The word Did you have a chance to go to the
witch museum or the or theSatanic Temple headquarters?

No, although I did walk through that Salem
Witch maze dungeon thing. Fun,very kitschy sort of way. And
also a great food in Salem. LikeI went to the pizzeria and
Rockefellers. That was good.

We have a ton of stuff to talk about. Because
there have been the during thetime that we missed an episode,
a lot of cool stuff has come outso but the big thing that has
come out is Evil Dead Rise.

Yes.

What do you guys think of Evil Dead Rise?

Oh, well, I was at the pre screening they did at
the Arrow Theater. And there isjust nothing quite like seeing
an Evil Dead movie with acompletely sold out crowd. And
you know, just like a peopleyelling and screaming and
laughing and you know, it's justit's a real crowd pleaser movie.

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And, you know, it's just, youknow, I was very interested in
the concept because, you know,for so long it's just, you know,
Ash, cabin in the woods. Eventhe remake, you know, his cabin
in the woods kind of followedthe beats, like this is far left
turn. Because you know, it'sthis old, decrepit high rise in
Los Angeles. Yeah, and yeah,they're in you know, they find

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the Necronomicon and therecording. And, well, now we got
Deadites in LA.

It's pretty much everything that I wanted
from an Evil Dead movie they Iwas actually originally pissed
because the Evil Dead pressscreening was the same night as
Beau Is Afraid which we'll getto. And I was really bummed. I'm
like shit, I'm willing to seeone of them. But it worked out
for the better because I got tosee. And you know, I promised I
wouldn't say how this happened.
Let's just say someone is on myChristmas card list. Now. I got

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to see another a differentpreview screening of Evil Dead
Rise that was with a fullaudience not just press and I'm
so glad because you are 100%Right. Those movies are so much
fun with a packed crowd. And Iwas giddy the whole time. It's
everything I wanted from an EvilDead movie at this point.
Because like you said, it's adifferent spin on it because it

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takes it to the more urbanatmosphere. But it's an Evil
Dead movie. It is. I mean, it'smore akin to the 2013 one. So if
you're one of those people whowere pissed off that this humor
of the original isn't in inFede's, this might not be for
you. Because it is, It's brutal.

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It's gory. It's dead serious.
But it's a freaking Evil Deadmovie. And it's so much fun.

Although I will add it it is a bit more serious
than the usual Evil Dead movie,but it still had some pretty
good gags. Like it even did likethe eyeball spit thing.

Yeah, I was I was gonna say I've seen I saw it
twice so far in theaters. And Iwent to the early screening at
the Alamo Drafthouse so the prepre show was fucking Incredible,
showing Evil Deads from allaround the world. But definitely
like the second viewing, likethe humor popped out a lot more
with the second viewing and it'sjust it's such got dark Gonzo

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humor. During the pre show theyhad an interview with Lee, the
director, Yeah, Lee Cronin, whosaid that the humor the dark
humor is kind of like in betweenEvil Dead one and two. So it's
not as slap sticky as Evil Dead2, but the Gonzo humor is
definitely there. what's for theeyeball. But but the eyeball bit

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is fucking gorgeous.

Yeah!

I, you keep saying it's everything that you
want from an Evil Dead movie.
It's everything I never knew Iwanted from an Evil Dead movie,
like it hit. It had all thelike, ingredients that you need
for an Evil Dead movie. But byputting it into a new urban
area, it was just, it wasincredible. And I gotta say, I
don't know about you guys. Butas someone who lives in LA, I
want to, I want that apartment,like that apartment in that

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building. That is exactly what Iwant. I want a giant apartment
for cheap. That has oldarchitecture, and I don't care
if like the sink is kind offunky and all that. Except for
like, you know, the Necronomiconbeing in the basement that
apartment seemed fucking killer,

and the fact that it's going to be torn down.

Well, I mean, yeah, that that's not an ideal
situation. But like, you know,everything else about it was
very, very awesome. But yeah,no, I absolutely loved it. I
really want to talk about a lotof points that are very
spoilery. But maybe we'll saveit for like another minisode or
so.

Yeah, maybe we'll do a minisode on it.
Because you don't want to haveit spoiled even though how much
can you spoil and Evil Deadmovie. I mean, it is very much
an Evil Dead movie. And it is Iwas surprised at how well it
translated to a differentsetting than the cabin in the
woods. But they pulled it offit. It was it was great.

I do want to say to everyone out there. The
title card is incredible.
They're online now. Stop takingfucking videos and pictures of
it with your goddamn phones andtheaters. I understand. It is
incredible. It is awesome. Keepyour phone in your fucking
pockets. Thank you.

I saw that so much. Just I'm gonna go on a
rant for a second. The Return ofthe Jedi celebrated its 40th
anniversary and

oh yeah, I went to one of those screenings

did everybody whip their phones out to to
record the opening crawl?

I don't know because I was at Alamo. So if
anybody did that they get kickedout.

Yeah, they shut that shit down there. I saw
so many on my timeline. Andthese are people that I expect
better from and they're showingthe Return of the Jedi crawl and
I'm like, Really, people justenjoy. I went to a midnight
screening of Halloween a coupleHalloweens ago when the theater
that I used to do that was openit closed shortly after the
pandemic, but um, and theopening scene with that with

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that with the pumpkin and youknow the and the 15 people
ripping out people were givingout their phones for that like
people. God. Anyway, speaking ofhumor, either you guys seen Beau
Is Afraid? Okay, Beau Is Afraid.
It's the new Ari Aster movie whobrought us Hereditary and
Midsommar. It's challenging. Itis three hours. And it is

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basically I've heard Ari Asterdescribe it as, as the Odyssey
or Lord of the Rings, like ajourney movie. But it's
basically a Jewish guy wantingto get home to his mother. And
that's what it is, basicallyJoaquin Phoenix is this really
unstable guy, and he just wantsto go home and visit his mother.

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And he is just there's justobstacle after obstacle after
obstacle. And the reason I thinkit, it's described, Ari Aster
described his next movie A longtime ago as a as a four hour
horror comedy or something likethat. And it's not four hours.
And the comedy is weird, becauseit's the kind of comedy where

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you're not sure if you shouldlaugh. I'm sure it's
intentional. But you're laughingand you feel weird about
laughing because it's just odd.
But it is. It's a weird movie.
It's gonna be divisive. It's achallenging movie. It is... Beau
the main character is famouslyunreliable as a narrator. So the

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entire movie starting with thefirst act, you're like, Is this
really happening? Or is heimagining all this stuff? And
you never really get an answerto that question, like his whole
journey. You're like, Okay, howmuch this is real? How much of
this is fake? You know, or didhe die at the beginning? There's
a point at the beginning of themovie where you're like, Okay,

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this is going to take a turn andwe're going to find out he died
then. And this whole thing hasbeen a dream. And that doesn't
happen. Spoiler alert. Hedoesn't like you know, end up
you know, it doesn't tell youYeah, he's have been dead since
this point. But there is a pointwhere you're like, it's hard to
tell how much is real and howmuch is in his head. And it is.

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I mean, it's a beautifully mademovie, The the imagery, you
know, the cinematography, thesound, the music, everything is
just beautiful about it, butfrom a story standpoint is going
to be challenging to somepeople. And I think that was
probably Aster's point. Youknow, he doesn't care what
people think of his movie. Hemade it for him. And, yeah, it's

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a it's a crazy one. To also talkabout comedy, Renfield. Do you
guys see Renfield?

Yes, yeah, I loved Renfield

I really loved it too. It's, it's funny
because it focuses more onDracula's sidekick Renfield,
which is Nicholas Hoult. ButNick Cage is...

Oh, yeah.

It's it's pretty hilarious because
Renfield goes to these supportgroup meetings for codependency.
codependent on Dracula. And it'sfunny because at one point, he

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breaks free from him and he getshis own apartment and starts to
live in his own life. And hecomes home one day. This is this
is what cracked me up aboutprobably the funniest gag in the
movie to me. He comes home oneday and Dracula's in his
apartment. And he goes, HeyRenfield and then he looks down
and he sees it. He has a welcomemat says welcome come on in and
he's all because he invitesDracula in with his welcome mat.

Yeah, and I love the contrast of Dracula look at
you know, looking very classicallook and Renfield I guess what's
been repressed on you know,color because of all that so
like, this whole apartment islike this kind of gosh, almost
John Waters ish pastel colors.

Yeah. And the clothes that he gets when he
when he breaks away. They're alllike bright and colorful. One of
the other funny things I lovedwas like towards the beginning
when they're given the backstoryof it, they rip off shots from
the original Dracula. Butinstead of Bela Lugosi, it's
Nick Cage. So if you know theoriginal Dracula, it's hilarious

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because it's frickin it shouldbe Bela Lugosi but it's Nick

Yeah. Because actually, that's the thing. I
Cage.
was at the pre screening at theArrow, and they had the director
Chris McKay there and they said,you know, when they were making
the movie that you know, it's auniversal movie. So they had
access to all the footage fromthe original Dracula. So they
actually edited that footage toinsert Dracula, Sorry, Nicolas

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Cage and Nicholas Hoult asDracula and Renfield. So it
looks like, you know, that theoriginal Dracula had the minute.

Yeah. I love that. That was hilarious. They
do like the Forrest Gump thingwhere it's basically, you know,
it's the original movie, butit's like, they've always been
those characters.

And I really dug it just because it was kind of a
subversive Dracula movie andjust genuinely a really fun,
horror comedy. And especiallylike it was more action packed
than I would have expectedbecause, yeah, you know, like
Renfield basically gets superpowered every time he eats the
bugs because he's usuallyDracula's power. So there's bits

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where like, he's rippingpeople's arms off. And he's
like, punching people's headsoff. And he even beats a dude to
death with his own arms. So likethey were just having a blast
with the sheer amount ofviolence.

Yeah, that was those that was fun. And he
you know, it's like every timeshits gonna go down because
there's also there's othersubplots with like drug cartels
and other stuff. And whatevershits gonna go down. Renfield is
like, I need a bug, find me abug. Because he needs to eat a
bug to get his powers.

And at one point, he's scarfs down an
entire ant farm and sand it all.

Yep.

That's gnarly.

Yeah, that was it was Renfield is a fun.
It's a good time. It's kind ofgetting skewered. I've seen a
lot of critics are not into it,but I had a blast with it.

That happens a lot with comedies.

On a similar note, as anyone else seen Sisu?

No I've want to badly. I preordered
the 4K already

I've heard it's just a lot of Nazi killing.

Oh, there is a lot of Nazi killing

That headline where it's just like, it's 90
minutes of Nazis being killedand tortured. I'm like, yeah!

Oh, yeah I was into it. It's directed by
Jalmari Helander. Who did RareExports, remember the Christmas
horror movie? And yeah, no, it'sjust it's really simple but
really fun because it's justyeah, it's like at the toward
the end of World War Two. TheNazis are evacuating Finland and
they're doing a scorched earthpolicy where they're just

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destroying and stealingeverything they can on the way
out. And they happen to comeacross this old Finnish soldier
who is prospecting for goldAatami played by Jorma Tommila
she Yeah, he's panning for goldand he finds the mother lode and
these Nazis decide they're gonnasteal, steal his gold so that

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they can, you know, makethemselves rich at the end of
the war. And he's at he's notgonna let them have it without a
fight and it just has done themost over the top like war
fights and brawls I've ever seenlike they're like there's a
point where he's under a lake.
And so the Nazis said onesoldier after another into the

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lake to try and get them becausethey figure he can hold his
breath long enough. And so hejust like slits the Nazis
throats when they dive in afterhim, and he, like steals their
air to stay underwater.

That's awesome.

That's genius writing right there who came up
with that? That's awesome.

I don't know.
And just one of my favorites islike that, like the Nazis are
chasing him into a minefield,and he's surrounded by mines,
and he just takes the mines andstarts chucking them at the
Nazis and blowing them up.

And that's the that's the dad from the Rare
Export movies, right? Who playsthe lead?

Oh, yeah. I think he was the dad. Yeah, he
was.

That's awesome. He's, he's one of those
actors, when I see him pop up isdefinitely gonna get a treat
because he was great. Also, Idon't know if you guys ever saw
a Big Game from the samedirector. But that was a lot of
fun too.

I got to see that one.

Oh, it's worth it. But yeah, no, I'm super
excited for Sisu. And yeah, likeI said, I already got the 4K
preordered so.

Oh, no, it's worth it. Like, if you like
seeing Nazis killed. It's themovie for you.

It's like the one group of people that I don't
mind a lot of like, torture pornhappening to

Yeah. Even go into the history in the movie
about the war. So it was. So itwas interesting from that
perspective, but just ingeneral, though, it's a kick ass
action movie.

What you're saying is, is it's educational,
and so you should bring thechildren.

Yes, it's a it's a documentary.

Would it make a good double feature with
Inglorious Basterds?

Oh, yeah it would, in fact, I was thinking
that while I was watching themovie, they go hand in hand.

Oh, man.
You're gonna you're gonna leavethat double feature ready to
punch all the fucking Nazis

Guess what our theme tonight is?

Blasting Dead Kennedys on the way out. Just
*graaahh!! noises*

Green Room next

To come down.

bring it back to reality.

You guys see Guardians of the Galaxy 3?

I did.

What do you think?

I really liked it.

It's my favorite of the three Guardians
of Galaxy movies. I think. Ididn't realize I could care that
much about a CGI talking raccoon

voiced by Bradley Cooper though.

Oh, my I was almost in tears in some play.
And you know, we don't want tospoil anything about it. But
basically, the whole movie isthem trying to save their friend
Rocket.

Yeah. No, I was amazed. Like, you know, I was in
the theater and I didn't cry butI definitely felt the emotional
impact and just the theater Iwas in though, to quote
Scrooged, Niagara Falls like somany people were crying during
that movie.

You could hear sniffles

Oh yeah.

In ours.
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a prettyemotional movie for I mean,
people think you know Tony Starkand Spider Man you know in in
the Infinity War movies. Youknow "I don't feel so well, Mr.
Stark...", you know, people werecrying about that. Oh, yeah

well, that scene a quick tangent. That
scene's sad because Peterbecause of Peter's spider sense.
Yeah, he sensed it coming, butdidn't know what the fuck it
was. But he he know he didn'tknow what was going on. That's
why he's going I don't feelgood. Mr. Stark is because he
had that extra like foresight,but had no idea of like, because
it doesn't tell him exactly whatit is. He just knows something

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bad's coming. And I was havingthat. That's why that's so heavy
and fucked. but uh, but yeah, Imean, if they follow
rock...because I read the comicswhen they came out, if they
follow Rocket's origins. Yeah, Ican imagine that it's a real
tear jerker.

They go into a lot of his I don't know if
it's the same because I didn'tread the comics, they go into a
lot of Rocket's origins. Andit's pretty heartbreaking where
he came from. And also, youknow, there's, there's more to
it as to why it is. It is sad.
But, you know, this issupposedly they've been building
it as the end of the Guardiansof the Galaxy. It's not the end

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of Guardians. It's the end ofthis formation of it, because at
the end, I mean, I don't want tospoil anything, but at the end,
you see where the team has nochoice but to kind of break up.
But then, you know, there's anew Guardians of the Galaxy that
forms because it even says, youknow, the credit scenes is like
guardians of galaxy, we'll beback. But, you know, it's, it's

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not the same team,

which is understandable. I mean, rosters
change all the time. Um, but I'mglad that they were able to
finish it at least with thisone. Yep. Um, so I did have I
have a you guys have been goingoff on a lot of movies I haven't
seen yet. But have you guys seenPolite Society?

No.

Yeah, I was planning on seeing it next week.

It's not horror, but there is a lot of
action. And it's really fuckinggood. So I'm going to talk about
it for a second. But it's aboutthese two sisters one wants to
has a goals and ambitions tobecome a stunt woman and her
older sister is an artist. Andtheir lives aren't going super
great. Especially the oldersister, she dropped out of art

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school. And they're both Hindi.
Hindi background. And so there'sa lot of culture or cultural
clash of that with modern womenand tradition. So the older
sister ends up kind of gettinginto an arranged marriage. And
the younger sister says, it'ssomething wrong. She's like, No,
you're changing too much withthis. And so she's trying to
basically kidnap her sisterbefore she gets married. And it

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is so good. It is so much fun.
It's got a high energy to it. Itreminded me a lot of Sorry To
Bother You. But it doesn't goquite as Gonzo, as that movie.
But it's very high energy. Ileft that theater like bouncing
around. And that wasn't becauseof my caffeine at all.

Is it like a martial arts movie kind of
thing?

There's a lot of fight scenes. They're very
over the top. They're veryfunny. But that third act is
done really, really well. Iwould highly recommend it just
because like, it feels like oneof those movies that like it's
gonna find its audience and whenit finds its audience, people
are going to absolutely love it.
It's it's just real good. I justwish more people you know, have

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seen it so far.

the way you describe that when it finds his
audience is going to be huge. Itthat reminds me of RRR is it
going to be that big when itfinds its audience because that
was a phenomenon?

Well, I mean, RRR is an absolute epic of epic
proportions. And just likeinsane

that should be on the poster and epic epic
proportions

that movie is I haven't seen it

what, you still haven't seen RRR?

Yeah, you have to see it. It's crazy.

How long has it been out?

there's an ongoing joke in my house where
it'll be like 10 o'clock atnight and I go, Hey, Lindsey,
you want to watch this movie?
It's three hours long. Yeah!

It's crazy because like, there'll be like
these knockdown drag out fightsand then it'll cut to like, a
song and dance number. I mean,it's Bollywood

a friend of mine put it best it's basically the
closest we've gotten to a goodlive action, Dragonball Z movie.

There's no song and dance. There is one
dance sequence but it was a partof the wedding. But it Yeah,
it's there's some Bollywoodinfluence, but not you know,
it's more straight up actioncomedy. But what I mean by when
it finds its audience, I mean,it's got cult written all over
it

oh got it okay,

but it's it's a lot of fun. Was felt very much
though, like, kind of like anEdgar Wright movie. In a lot of
ways of like that style of likeaction and comedy and like
quirkiness.

Does it have the soundtrack of an Edgar
Wright movie?

It does. It really does. That soundtrack is
fucking dope that soundtracksdope.

Yeah, I want to see it next week at Alamo or
something.

That's another thing we didn't mention
about Guardians of the Galaxy.
The soundtrack is just a spot onit but the thing is, is Star
Lord lost his Walkman. So now hehas a zune. And so so it's like
an mp3 player with all thisother stuff. So it moves into
like 80s and 90s and even 2000stuff, but yeah, every song is
perfect.

Oh, yeah. No, James Gunn really knows how to
put a mixtape together.

Hell yeah, he does. Yeah.

Let's see, you know, on other new releases,
which gotten hard. Did any ofyou see that anime movie,
Suzume?

No

Oh, that was that was a fun one I saw while I
was on the east coast betweenfestival weekends. It's by
Makoto Shinkai who did Your Namethat pretty big anime movie from
few years ago. Basically, it'sabout this girl who meets this
exorcist who's trying to keepthese gates closed, keep this
demon from underneath Japan fromgetting out, causing disaster,

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and at one of the gates he getscursed by the spirit and gets
turned, I shit you not, into achair. So the girl and the
exorcist is now chair have to goacross Japan and try and keep
the gates closed to stop thisdemon from getting out. And is
the thing with Shinkai like hehas these very ridiculous and

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absurd premises, but it was veryemotionally rending and kind of
deals a lot with the themes ofgrief and response to disaster
and beautifully animated like itlooks stunning.

And also, if you haven't watched it yet
Boulet Brothers Halfway toHalloween special on Shudder is
fucking incredible. If you aremissing the skits from Dragula
Titans this makes up for it, itscampy it's fun, and there's a
great performance by the Satanicdoowop group, Twin Temple . also
Katya does an entire song aboutravioli.

Everybody loves ravioli

but even the Boulets are like yeah Katya is
gonna sing a song about ravioli.
What does that have to do withHalloween? I have no fucking
idea. And let me tell youshowstopper. It's incredible.

Cool. And now we are joined by a very special
guest. We have Berkley Brady,the director of the upcoming
Dark Nature. How're you doingBerkley?

Berkley Brady (25:27):
Very well, very happy to be here.

We're happy you're here. The question I
always like to start off with ishow did you get started in
filmmaking? Has it always beenwhat you want to do? Or did you
get led down the path bysomething else? Or

it's funny, I have a friend of my mom's and he
did concert promotion. So wehave friends just in movie
production as well. So whenLegends of the Fall was filming
in Alberta, I got to go to theset. And when I told him that if
I need to tell me it's like, I'mso sorry. Tell your mom. I'm so
sorry for introducing you toproduction. But I think at that

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time, it just seemed soimpossible to be from Alberta,
Canada and make movies so when Isplit to that set, I was amazed
by things like they've had builta house but when you went into
the house, there was no secondfloor just stairs. Yes. And then
just lighting room for thecamera. There was a snack shed
at the craft shed was part ofthe like backyard farm shed but

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you opened it up and it was justlike every candy and every snack
you can imagine. Like what isbest place?

That is the best part of set is the Crafty
trailer.

Yes, no questions asked. You can come in, come
out. No one shakes your pockets.

You can go up and ask. Yeah, can I have some
fruit? Three jerkies. And likeyou can order the most random
combination stuff in there likeyeah, come right up.

I know. I love that. I love that already come
up here like Where's my hatsandwich? Not yet, Berkley. Not
yet. 15 more minutes still thosecome back.

Is there a good film scene in Alberta now?
Or do you have to go to likeVancouver or Toronto? I mean,
it's there a little, a littlescene in Edmonton or,

you know, I'm actually in Calgary. So yeah, I
was born in Edmonton, andbooming here. We are definitely
a high demand location. we arenot huge for above the line.
Although there is a really bigindie scene here. And a lot of
people doing cool horror movies.
And a lot of people coming backfrom Vancouver who moved their

work here, but I mean Predator: Prey shot here actually some of (27:30):
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the same locations as my movie,trivia question if you can see
which one, and Fargo, we just

had Wind River (27:42):
The Next Chapter. It's It's so busy here
that it's hard to crew. And thatwas an issue we had. So it's a
really high demand location,Alberta. Because we have the
Rockies, you have praries, wehave horses, we have such
hardcore crews who can work inthe most extreme weather and do
it in ways that like, it's like,blows my mind how tough the

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crews are here, and how goodtransport everything, we have
everything here. And we alsohave some tax credits, the
government's been putting moreinto that. So we can host bigger
and bigger productions. Andthere's also the exchange rate.
So every time you come fromAmerica, your dollar is 30%
stronger. So it's like a 30%sale for everything for you.

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Whereas when I come to you, it'slike everything's 30% more and
it's that's why it's hard totravel the states. But ya know,
it's bustling. And same with theindie scene. And there's a
really strong indie scene, It'skind of like a horror ghetto
happening here.

Oh, that's awesome.

Yeah. Yeah, it's really cool.

I want to go to the horror ghetto that sounds
that just sounds like a MagnoliaPark for here in LA. There's
just like a lot of horror shopscalled that now. Speaking of
locations, you guys got someincredible outdoors. I mean, the
entire thing is outdoor, exceptfor like the very opening. And I

will (29:05):
Prey similarities with the locations now. What were some of
the difficulties like becauseyou guys did such a good job.
Was it as were you guys asremote as it looks in the movie?
And what were some of thedifficulties in getting to those
spots?

Well, I think one of the main difficulties is just
the travel. So it'd be about 45minutes to an hour drive each
way in which you know, on that'sgetting into territory where if
we could we would have hostedpeople, but there's areas where
you weren't really near a hotelanyway. And we just didn't have
that budget to provide forpeople. So when you're waking up

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at 4am in the car by 430, soyou're at set by 545 to be there
for a six call time it adds up.
It was down on the will to livefor each person there. So what
we did was we went into someprovincial parks and tried to
find locations that were closeto road access. And the only

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thing that wasn't really closeto road access was down at the
water the water scene and thatinvolved a hike for the crew of
a kind of a big hill. And thatreally also added up on the day
because you have to go to thebathroom up the hill down the
hill, your equipment up the hilldown the hill, Hill down the
hill and so by the end Iremember just looking around as

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we were all coming up the hilland people just look like just
like fuck my life, like it's sohard and that was actually the

Predator (30:34):
Prey location where she gets chased by the bear that
in the water there the beaverdam.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yes.

So they built in and brought into Beaver Dam,
whereas we just use the there isthat sort of love pilot, and we
have actors like going in there.
They did have wetsuits on, theyhave little like custom
wetsuits. So they weren't in thejust their clothes, but it's
still a glacial river. And sofor predator prey, I was taking
the DP down there, and we'dalready scouted the location and

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so I didn't know predator wasalso shooting there. But their
locations people were down theresetting up and they had like hot
tub there for the actor, andporta potties are like, Oh my
gosh, how did you get portapotties down here? Oh, the
helicopter, drop them off

the studio budget money,

right as like the helicopter, of course! So for
us, we did not have that. Soyeah, it was we really did put
that effort in everyone knowingthat it's going to be worth in
the end to create this feeling.
Because there's there's parks inCalgary, like we have one of the
biggest urban parks in theworld. It's an amazing park, you
could totally make a scenethere. But you're gonna hear the

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train in the background, attimes, you'll hear traffic, you
know, and I just thought, we'llcome this far, let's just like
give the actors in the field. Sowe really went to the woods, and
then the the where you see themclimb up to that cave, that was
about a 20 minute drive or walkfrom circus. And that was like
straight up so that that wasalso really challenging, but

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it's like it's a real cave inthe in the Rocky Mountains like,
common, I gotta go.

That's awesome. They were a really does
help in creating that. Cut offand you're out there when when
you're shooting practically andnot have Yeah. Obviously trains
are a dead giveaway. And whodoes it like to bring up you
seeing the car go by and Lord ofthe Rings in the background?

Yeah, it helps with the isolation. I
think that's the word you'relooking for. Yeah. Yeah,
isolation of the characters.

Hiking is hard, right? Like, it's a little hard
to be on a hiking trip, nomatter what age you are, who you
are. And I think having thatsense of fatigue, of course, the
actors can act fatigue. Butthere's also just a level, I
think that you can pick up offlike they had, there's a focus,
you need to be there. And Ithink that was the quality I
wanted them to have. And I thinkthey do.

And I did want to ask about that. What was the
casting process like?

Well, I had, I'm Métis. And so that's, I don't
know if you guys in the Statesknow much about that. When I
went to school there. Everyone'slike, what is that, but we're an
indigenous group in Canada.
We're like, when the French werehere, they mixed with the local
indigenous people, especiallyCree. And we sort of like made
our own thing have couple goodcouple 100 years where it was

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like, we just do our own thingin our way here. So I really
wanted to cast have as muchindigenous representation in the
film behind the scenes that havea camera and in front. So that
definitely played a role. Soyeah, I had so I worked with
Madison Walsh on a TV show aboutMarguerite Riel, who's a Métis

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leader and hero. And I thoughtshe was just so good and so
smart. And I wanted to work withher again. And then I heard
about Roseanne Supernault from afriend here an actor, and she
suggested her, and I liked herand I liked that she was local.
So I chose her. And Helen Belay,I'd worked with her on a little

(34:05):
short film, hasn't come out yet,but it's called Song of the
Dead. And I thought she's justso talented, also local. So I
kind of have this dream ofcultivating these working
relationships with actors here,so that we can do more here,
even on the fly. It doesn'talways have to be such a big
project. It just like, you know,kind of like a troupe. And then

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with Hannah, it was really hardto find the lead because I'd had
actually an offer out tosomebody else that I wasn't, we
were just in a holding patternfor so long, and it didn't end
up we were really close. It justdidn't work out. And so of
course it's like a bit of apanic because it's the lead
role. And then I had heard ofher and started to see some of

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her other work is like, youknow, she really has the sort of
like, she's such a beautifulwoman, but I think she's not
afraid to go to like uglyplaces. And I really They like
that. And so I met with her overonline. And I just felt
confident that she could do it.
And it was really great to be onset and just see how good she is

(35:11):
and how good they all are. Andto see that was the first time
I've got to work with a wholeensemble of people who are just,
they know what they're doing.
Like the dirt, like, they werejust, I could give them a
direction, or they would, theidea they brought themselves was
already spot on. And Hannah andMadison would always have a
competition, like who could doit in one take. So sometimes I
will say Madison, she did cheata little like Hannah would be

(35:34):
doing her take, and Madisonwould be in the back doing
faces. Make her mess up. Becausethey had that competition. But
they're just so talented, all ofthem,

which is needed, because this is very
heavy subjects that are on eachone of these women has
experienced past trauma thatthey are overcoming and in
various stages of it, which ofcourse, the woods brings back in
full force. What was the processof getting to the truths of that

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are like representing andshowing that in inaccurate form?
I mean, we see what the maincharacter, you know, at the very
beginning that the guy is abastard. I mean, that's right
out the gate. And seeing theseeing those traumas and those
experiences manifests in eachone of these women. What was
what was, what was that like? Imean, that's, that's hard

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working and getting out not onlyin the writing, but in the
performances.

Yeah, I think I think for them, that's what they
do. You know, for them, they canexpress every range of emotion
and their complete prose. So Idon't know if they found that
aspect of it challenging. But Ithink in writing it and thinking
of it, I did so many rewrites,and I had rewrites, where you

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don't really realize whathappened in our relationship
until later. But then I thought,well, this is a horror. So I
want to start with somesomething scary, like, and let's
just look at this scene of, Iguess you could call it domestic
abuse, but it's just an abusiverelationship. And it's a toxic
relationship. And it wasimportant for me to show that

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they are both in this, he takesit to the next level, because
he's a sociopath. But she's notlike this sweet little perfect
malice victim, like she's inthis bad relationship and making
the choice to be there. So sheneeds to figure out why she's
doing that. And I think that's abit more interesting than like,

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bad guy, like sweet girl, or,you know, good, bad person. It's
like, it's very complex, whypeople are in bad relationships,
right? And so I really wanted toI was looking at just at the end
of so many horror movies, youthink like, Man, those people
who are left, they're going tobe pretty fucked up.
traumatized? And what if youjust start the movie? Like,
yeah, we'll just take it for fora given like that these people

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have all been through life. Andalready you're coming with the
trauma, going to the woods,trying to deal with it. And
maybe it's truthful. So what Iknow is that just because you
start working on a problemdoesn't mean you're going to
have fewer problems, life isgoing to be delivering whatever
it is. And that's kind of what'shorrific about life,

the problems will follow you to the woods
sometimes.

Yeah, wherever you go, there you are. Yeah.

But yeah, I did.
And I really did like that,though, that each member of the
group kind of has thoseflashbacks. And instead of, you
know, just seeing them, in themidst of it, like we actually
flashback with them, or like wesee the visions that they see,
what was that process like,especially since it kind of

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brought people in and out of theforest.

I think I really wanted to make their experience
subjective, and to bring theaudience into what they were
feeling. So I think that withtrauma, PTSD, and my own
experience with it, like I wasrobbed when I was in Brooklyn,
and went like mano y mano. Whatdo you call it like, contact

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like, like, it became like afight like I was fighting back
because it's a long story. Theysay you shouldn't fight back.
But you have to be in the momentand sense like what he says,
anyway, long story short, andgot my stuff back from my phone.
But just like being attacked andfighting, there would be things
like, two days later, or threedays later, I would see someone
just in the corner of my eye,and it would just make me scream

(39:38):
that it wasn't like, I wasscreaming and when I got robbed,
it was just like, and it wasn'tlike I was like not in control
of I was like, oh my god likejust seeing that quick movement.
It just made me scream like thatwas just a purely physiological
response. So like, holy crap, ifyou went to combat or if you're
someone who, you know, I knownot everyone in combat gets
PTSD, but like, I think I wouldbe one who would be Just to have

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this involuntary experience orgoing through difficult things,
I think like rumination notbeing in the moment, you're just
brought back thinking you'reback thinking about something
that's not about where you arein that moment. And that can
really robbing you of your life.
And so I wanted to show thateach character was dealing with
their own version of whathappened to them in the past,
and not become trauma porny andgo into these like exploitative

(40:24):
flashbacks. So I liked thatlevel of voyeurism too, like
part of me is like, oh, it'd bekind of fun to go see, like,
what really happened to herlike, it's a guilty pleasure.
And I'm not proud of that. Butlike, I don't hate it, to see
that too. And I just, I justdecided, like, let's keep it
here in the present, and showlike, what they're dealing with
here and allude to whathappened. And people can fill it

(40:44):
in with their imagination, like,go on YouTube, you can get all
crazy stories. And, you know,like, I feel like we've had
enough of it.

But even just because that is one of the
important things, becauseoutside of Hannah, we only get
little flashes of what theothers have been through. But
it's just enough to let youknow, like, oh, and like you
said, the mind fills it in. AndI really appreciated the those
moments, especially the spacingout and people going, where,
where were you? Where were youjust Yeah. And you can see a

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little bit of a time lapse,especially with Hannah, that
those felt made of feel reallyreal.

Yeah, I think, you know, the type of person
I've just looking at myself andsome of my other friends, like
who've gone through hardertimes. Just to be honest, I like
I wasn't the best friend to themat the time when you need your
friends the most? Or is maybethe time you're not going to be
the best for them. And I thoughtthat was an aspect of just
friendship that I wanted toexplore. And I hadn't seen done.

Yeah, definitely the the moment where
the friend goes, this was yourlast chance. I was just like,
not now! not now, but I also getit. But I also know, it's like,
how much can you try to helpsomeone who's not doing the
work? Or it doesn't seem likethey're doing the work? You
know, it's

what was the line something about? I don't
want to be I don't want to careabout you more than you do or
something like that. Yeah, thatwas the one that really stabbed

yeah. Because she's like, pushed to that
you're like, Oh,brink. And she's looking, I
think, for Hannah's charactershe has to for joy. It's like
she has to look at how is thisviolence that I've been a part
of and and still sort ofengaging with? How is it hurting
others around me? And can shemake the right choice for her

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friends? If she can't make itfor herself? Can she start by
making it for her best friend?

Yeah. And I was also going to ask what it was
Yeah.
like working with Kyra Harper,as kind of the authority figure
in Dr. Dudley and how thatdynamic kind of played out.

two actors. And I just felt like, I wanted to
learn who was older than theothers. Because I feel like
there's just an emotionalauthority you can have with an
older person. And I think shealso was just like such a acting

(43:17):
veteran, theater veteran, justso good. Like when we did ADR
for her screens were like, herscreen, like she can scream on a
dime, like all manner to belike, well, like they should,
but what? She's just so good.
And she wasn't there for as muchof the shoot. So we were sort of
flying her back from Toronto acouple times. But it was really
great. We and we actually workedwith had a psychologist come and

(43:39):
work with the group when we wheneveryone first got there. And I
wish we had been able to do thatearlier, because I think able to
tweak some of the things in thefilm. But that was especially
helpful for Kyra, because sheand I could like I could pull
her aside and be like, Whatwould Dr. Rochelle say remember
with Dr. Rochelle, so like theactors did, basically like in

(44:00):
character, a group therapysession with a real
psychologist.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, that's intense.

It was really intense and really cool to see
like their backstories and whatthey what they were bringing to
the character and then dynamicsthat happened in the group, like
they kind of went out eachother. And I wish we could have
filmed this and like, boughtthis dynamic a little but then
they did in there was like atouch point that we had through
the shoot. And there's one scenethat we cut that you kind of

(44:28):
alluded to some of their theirinterpersonal dynamic dynamics.
But with Kyra that was reallyreally great because we could
look at the way the psychologistwould handle these heated
moments. And it you know, she'sa pro like that. She says it
does things that are not whatthe average person would do.
She's she's really leading sortof by example. So for Kyra, we

(44:49):
could always say like, well,what would you know Dr. Rochelle
say here, remember how shesteered this? And yeah, I think
people who don't believe intherapy or hate therapy? I like
that beginning you're gonna belike, Yeah, this is not, this is
not good. This is like, this isa bunch of bullcrap. But then in

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my direction, it was like she isvery sincere. And I think this
trip could have been a bigsuccess in a different forest.

There's something about the movie that
we need to kind of tiptoe aroundbecause we don't want to spoil
anything. But I think all of uswant to talk about the creature.
The monster, though now atfirst, when these ladies are in
this forest, you start thinkingit might just be the haunted
forest or, you know, with theirflashbacks and their trauma
rearing its head. But there isin fact, a monster. Can you talk

(45:42):
a little bit about the monster,the monster design? And how it?
How did the monster come about?

Well, it's a very dramatic tale, actually, with
the monster.

I'm glad I asked

me to, because I think the monster is that some
interdimensional worm hole,black hole dimensional thing
happened where this thing landedin this place. And over the
eons, has evolved, just like anylife form here. But it's kind of
stuck in the wrong dimension,but it has dimensional powers,

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like it can move throughdimensions in ways we can't. So
that's why can like target yourthoughts. And that this thing is
basically going to be feedingoff anything you bring it. So it
could be if you're coming infear and anger, it's gonna make
you more fearful and angry. Butif you came, maybe offering
something or with a differentenergy, it's going to give
something a little bit back. Soin my idea, it's people had once

(46:42):
understood this creature and itspower and we're using it in like
a medicinal way, but we're alsogiving it offerings are kind of
like living in harmony with it.
But since those people werekicked off the land, it's been
kind of starving. So it's justsort of in itself like desperate
and going to just be bouncingoff whatever comes and it's kind
of angry because it's beenlonely. So I really also wanted

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it to be reflective of thepredators of the region who also
have evolved in those thoseenvironments. And so especially
like its skin and the bark, andwanted to look like bark and the
rocks we looked took a lot ofsamples from that place in that
cave and that for us to designits skin in terms of what it
really looked like we actuallywere working with an incredible

(47:24):
creature designer but the suitand feature that he made that
when we got to set the actorcouldn't move in it. So I'd be
giving direction like hey, getdown on the ground like can you
be stealthy, stocky, let's stoplooking through here. He's like,
I can go like this. Oh, this isnot good, because you have to be

(47:48):
pretty active in that thatoutfit. So we had to scrap that
which we put a ton of our budgetand ton of time into you. And
luckily, Kyra Macpherson, ourhead makeup designer, special
effects, and Jennifer Crighton,the costume head of costumes
they got together, and aftershooting would just literally
work on this new costume. Andthey literally saved the day. So

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we just shifted shooting to nothave feature shots. Then they
had about two and a half weeksto create the suit. And they
did.

And it's gnarly, gnarly looking suit,
that's for certain.

Yeah, so they're incredible. They're both
incredible artists. And Kyra inparticular is just loves
creatures and creature effects.
And she does a lot of specialeffects for like tons of movies.
But she also does when themilitary does, like training,
you know, they'll like make belike, make it look like your
intestines are blown out for thetraining. So they'll have like

(48:48):
real actors and people like inthe forest. And if you're in the
military, these training have tocome and do the first day, but
they want it to be realistic forthis training. So she'll do
that. So that's why like thespecial effects of the let like
the wounds that happen, I justloved the job that they did on
that and her team

that some of those wounds looked so great,
but not to spoil, but thewaterfall or jumping into the
water bit and then seeing themcome up and you just see all the
blood trailing by your foot. Iwas just like, Oh, something
gnarly happened with that fall.

So I really liked the trail of blood and
gore and the caves that shefollows toward the end.

Yeah, I like that too. And in fact, you shot that
last and I was like, Oh man, Iwish I'd seen this earlier
because I think I would havejust bloodied him up more than
to look so good like thebloodier and bloodier that he
got but I loved and that wasjust one gory cave. They were
putting blood in there for solong, just like it was just
dripping. And so gross

so that was great set design with the cave.

Oh, yeah, that's Myron Hyrak is his name and he
kind of came out of semiretirement for this. If he we
did The interior of the cage ina studio.

Oh damn

So he thought he totally made that in his art
department. So yeah, I wouldsay, my creature came from
another dimension. Maybe itpassed by the predator prey
spaceship. You know, just like,where are you going? I don't
know. I'm just like going here.
But I imagine it didn't. It isas it is because it's specific
to this place. If that thinglanded somewhere else, or came

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from that dimension, it would bea totally different, because I
do think that is so amazing,like this idea of how the
natural world and Mother Natureis like the real quantum
computer. You know, it's like welike I love when you look at
birds, and it's like, they havea beak that only fits this food
that's at in this one place andthis type of flower. And it's

(50:46):
totally shaped to that becauseit's like, so evolved to its
environment. It's I think thiscreature also is like that. But
it also is interdimensional

after predator prey came out I was
saying that I want every movieto be basically a stealth
Predator movie where like, stuffis happening and all sudden a
predator pops up. That's kind ofwhat dark nature did for me when
you know, you have these womenon this retreat to to tackle
their traumas, and all of asudden, there's a monster. I

(51:19):
like yeah, this is it stillpredator? I mean, not that it's
a predator. But it I mean, notthat it is a predator in the
predator franchise sense. It isa predator, I think.

1Yeah. Yeah.

And I really liked how because one of my
favorite things when it comes tocreature features. I'm a huge
fan of cryptids I was showingyou guys my mouth man tattoo
earlier. But I really appreciatewhen you do have a creature that
is influenced through historyand local mythos. And what have
you that it's not overexplained, you know, like, you

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don't just suddenly go Oh, yes,that's the that's the "Baba
Dom". thing. And it eats babies,as we know, from the local, you
know, when they get too hardcoreinto like, over explaining it
and suddenly know all the rules.
But I, you gave just enoughdetail, so that we have an idea.
And then you see it more playout, there's there's a really
great, same trend, I don't wantto spoil it. But there's a

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really great scene in the cave,where you see the explanation of
how hundreds of years ago thelocal groups would appease to it
and would kind of work becopacetic with it. And you kind
of see it happen there for a fewmoments of that kind of
understanding. And God that was,that was great.

Yeah, cuz I think there is Oh, thank you. I'm glad
you liked that part. And I thinkthat there's something in facing
your fears and going throughdifficult physical times, that
really can strengthen you. And Iknow, I did a little documentary
with the Cree elder here DoreenSpence about the vision quest
that she leads with people,which is four days on the land,
got on the land, no food and nowater. And you know, it's

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something that you would havedone, let's say in Cree culture,
maybe when as like a rite ofpassage when you're younger, but
it's something people dothroughout their whole lives.
And it's that idea of like, I'mgoing to do this thing, but I
don't know how I'm gonna getthrough four days and four
nights with no water. I've neverdone that myself. Gearing up,
I'd like to do it. But the foodI can imagine, but you're out

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there. And she kind of teacheslike, whatever you're fearing is
going to come up for you, it'sgoing to happen. So how do you
face it? Especially when you'reunder that sort of stress
physically? And you do, and youget through it, and you're
stronger on the other side. Andso I imagined, let's say with
this creature, maybe back in theday, he was part of some

(53:39):
people's vision quests. And noteveryone made it out because he
might do the wrong thing. Andthere's no, it's not like, he's
gonna be like, Oh, that's okay.
Try again, tomorrow, you get aribbon. Like he might eat you.
But if he doesn't, and youfigure it out, maybe you're
bestowed with this strength forthe rest of your life. And I
just love that sort of, I thinkit's important for us to
remember that, because therewere so soft these days, like

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our lives are relatively easy,if you like, or like living in
North America and at a house.
You're probably like, not forcedto be uncomfortable a lot of the
time.

Um, what do you have? Let's talk about the
future for you. What do you havecoming up anything you can, you
can tell us about? Can we pluganything?

For sure. Um, well, I am adapting a book
called The Summer of Bitter andSweet, which is a different
genre. But I hope to bring somereal thriller aspects of the
premise of that it's adaptationof a book. And it's about a
young woman, a young Métis womanliving on the prairies, and it's
her summer after graduating highschool. And it's also the summer

(54:44):
that her father gets out ofprison, but she's never met him
because the reason he's inprison is for raping her mother.
So she's sort of faced with himcoming back into her life and
looking at also her own fashiona lot about her sexuality. Which
is that I guess I don't want tospolier, I don't want to give
too much away, but she'swondering like, am I struggling

(55:04):
with my sexuality because of howI was conceived? And also now
this guy is trying to get backinto my life what like, who am I
really? How much am I like him?
And how much am I like my motherand my, my culture, my family.
So it's more, it's more of alike romance drama. But I want
it to be kind of creepy andscary, because why not, and

throw some Bones And All in there.

Right? Exactly.
Because he's a violent guy. Soyou're always going to be I want
like, you know, there's an edgeof being on the edge of your
seat component to every timehe's around, I think. And then
I'm also adapting the bookHalfbreed, which is a memoir of
an incredible mentor and, andwoman named Maria Campbell. And
she, that will be hopefully alimited series. I'm doing both

(55:51):
those projects with Banger Filmsin Toronto. They're awesome. And
then we kind of sci fi scriptwith my friend Daniel, who
actually plays the mainboyfriend in Dark Nature. And it
was his idea of a sci-fi scriptabout basically set in the not
too far future where people havemerged with machines. Some
people have and some peoplehaven't. And so it's about a

(56:13):
family who's living off the gridhiding from the sort of world
and another family kind of says,like, can you take us in?
Because we're also hiding butit's like, are they the cyborgs?
Or are they not? It's like asci-fi. Yes.

And I know I said that the boyfriend was a
bastard from the start I nothingagainst Daniel

He was great, a good actor

I with the lighter to I was just like that
that's a that's a thing peopledo where they're like, I'm gonna
associate this moment with this.
So you know what I'm doing?
Yeah. Yeah. Like,

where can people follow you on the socials
to get updates on these projectsthat you're working on right
now?

I have an Instagram, @Nika_Productions,
and I am going to get bettergetting better at using it. I
don't know, I was just epsilon,but I do like being on there and
following you guys now. Andthen, on Facebook, I just have
my name Berkley, Brady. And Idon't do Twitter, because as a

(57:16):
writer, it's like it's alreadythere's just too many
distractions of the world. IfI'd been on Twitter, I'll never
write a word.

Yeah, Twitter is kind of toxic right now.

Oh, extremely so. You're better off and I'm on
Twitter, and I'm saying that.

okay. Well, thank you for joining us this
morning and talking about yourmovie. At the time that this
post, Dark Nature will behitting select theaters that
Friday the 19th. And then willbe available on VOD on the next
Tuesday, the 23rd. Is there alsoa physical release? It's It's
epic. So they're doing aphysical right?

Yeah, yeah there will be.

Okay, good.
Yeah.

The blu ray comes out June 25.

Oh, June 25.
Okay, great. Yeah. Cool. So youhave plenty of chances to see
Dark Nature and we all suggestthat you do that.

Oh, and real quick. Do you know what kind of
special features will be on theblu ray?

I do, I have the composers, Ghostkeeper, they
have a video that they have.
That'll be on there. That guy'sand I believe this is on blu
ray, I have to confirm it. Butthe guys, some of the guys on
the production made a littleshort film in the cave after we
wrapped. So I think that's onthere. Yeah, behind the scenes.

It was a great cave.

It was a great cave. It was made out of tarp.
Can you believe that, tarp? Tarpand pallets like it was seeing
what art direction does that is?
It's just I mean for everydepartment but good art
directors what they do. They'reliterally magicians.

When I have little home projects. I always
go to the to the art director onthe gig I'm working on and go
How can I pull this off? I wantto make a shelf out of VHS
tapes. Oh, you gotta use this,this and this. really? like
yeah, it'll cost you five bucks.

That's what I love today. They're realistic,
like, like with the tarps theguy like Myron, he took these
like just tarps, normal tarpskind of slip up the ball string
that took the semi truck or likea big truck and just rolled over
them so that they were totallylike creased when he took them
apart and then spray paint andpaint them so it has all that
dimension. Like who does that?

Good art director. I'm a I'm a sucker for
composer stuff. So I'm lookingforward to that special feature
of the music because that's mything too. Um, okay, cool. So,
Dark Nature, in theaters on the19th on VOD on the 23rd and
follow Berkley to see the statusof all of these upcoming

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Or you can find us atihorror.com which is the the
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go give them a listen and ourartwork is Chris Fisher so we'll
give him a like. And yeah,everybody go see Dark Nature.

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Jonathan Correia (01:00:13):
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