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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official
podcast of ihorroror.com this isepisode 146 otherwise known as
season eight. Episode Six. I amyour host, James, Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host. Jacob Davison, how
you doing? Jacob, uh,

Jacob Davidson (00:40):
doing fine. Just got my birthday coming up, so
I'm pretty excited about that,and still continue to be gloomy.
May,

are you doing another wake for your birthday?
Wake part two?

No, it's my resurrection. I'm starting my
own religion, getting thecompound for my birthday.

That's hysterical. I Well, you know,
who's gonna have something tosay about this? Let's bring in
your other, other host, JonCorreia, how you doing? Correia,

Jonathan Correia (01:11):
doing well, I gotta say the the

You'll join his cult, right. Oh yeah,

Jacob, come on. How could I say no,

come on, you know, you wanna Jacob

balancing himself in this, like Halloween
decoration coffin that was justlike a little too small on, like
a table that was a little bitwobbly. Was quite hilarious. It
was a great time. I enjoyedmyself greatly. I

lived entertain.
I'm looking forward to yourresurrection. I've been dead
this whole time. I sixth sensethis podcast. You

know, look a day over 24 Good job. All right,
but let's jump into it, becauseI have nothing to talk about.
No, I do. Have you guys heard ofthis documentary, Predators. And
I pre faced with documentary,because I'm not talking about
the Adrian Brody Predators, butpredators, no, I have not, nope,

(02:10):
no, all right, so it's a it's ameditative documentary, kind of
critical essay about the ToCatch A Predator series. I

was going to say we're talking Chris Hanson
Predators. Oh, the pedo Slayer

himself, yeah.
And it talks about, like theshow and its influence on the
culture, and one of theinterests, and it's really
interesting, because they getinto not only like the ethical
questions that the show bringsup. But because of like, what
the show is about, there's somuch unaired footage that's
publicly available through courtsystem, summits and stuff, and

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so the director actually wentthrough like, all the like, all
the like, post captureinterviews and stuff. And like.
Went through it because if, forthose who don't know what to
Catch a Predator is, it was ashow on NBC, late night, I
believe, where Chris Henson, noteven late

night. It was, it was prime time. It was
prime time. It was an event. Itwas part of NBC Dateline, I
think, yeah, yeah. It was aseries of Dateline shows, yeah,
yeah,

where they would, you know, pretend to be
children in chat rooms and getthese would be or potential
pedophiles to show up to thehouse. Chris Henson would pop
out. They would have, like anactor, pretend to be a child, to
be like, I'm just gonna go getthe cookies. Come on in. And

it became kind of a pop culture jokes. I
remember, I think it was one ofthe MTV Movie Awards,
they were doing one of thosesketches where a person, the
host, goes through all thedifferent movies, and at one
point he walks into a kitchenand he's like, What the hell's
going on? And then Chris Hansenwalks out and goes,

have a seat.
Iconic line, yeah. And they Oh,yeah. It's referenced in arrest
development, you know,

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia,

yeah, it's, it's, there

was one, I saw a cartoon of it where they
actually had, like, a realpredator, like a monster
predator. And then Chris Hansenpops

out, goes, have a seat to like, I think it was a
Robot Chicken sketch.

Yes, there was a Robot Chicken. Yes.

Well, as well.
There's the boondocks episodewith the booty warrior, where he
goes, Oh, I'm not here for achild. I'm here for you. Chris
Hansen, remember that? Yeah,that that horrific, horrific
scene. But so we all know thatit's, it was kind of a joke in
this is phenomenon and stuff.
But the thing is, like, and theyand they talk about it a lot in

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the movie where the crimealready happened in the chat
room, there's no reason to setup these stings that all of that
is purely for camera and forentertainment. So it asks these
moral, uh, morality questions.
Of like, Who is that for? That'sfor an audience? What? Ha and
like, what is it when the. Ajustice system is turned into a

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form of entertainment, and allthese big questions like that,
how much of it is likeessentially goading people into
these situations? How many,because law enforcement would
boast, like with these type ofstings, that a large majority of
these arrests were people whohave never committed any kind of
crime before, and it's like, soit asks a lot of really good

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questions, and it goes into,there's a lot of knockoffs now,
especially on YouTube, and theyare not done well at all. One,
they actually follow one ofthese people, and it's the
director. It was one of the Qand A's that actually was like,
I it was, it was an interestingQ A, but the the director of the

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film would didn't understand whyeveryone laughed. Because when
they followed the YouTubepeople, the woman who would
pretend to be a child on thephone and stuff, she'd be
sitting in the motel room. Andevery single time one of these
guys showed up, they would openthe door and they go, Who the
fuck are you? You're like, 40 tothis woman, and she's like, No,
I'm just turning 15. And he'slike, no, what the hell is going

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on? Which I thought was thefunniest thing ever, that there
was, like, consistently that.
But then they would, becausethey weren't working with local
PD, they would just get themthere, and then they would call
the police, so they would haveto sit with the guys for like
hours, waiting for the cops toshow up. And it was just totally
bad. But it's, it's, it's askingthat question where it's like,

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you're, you're becoming thevigilantes. They're vigilantes.
And like, yeah, there's a lot ofreally good morality questions
in it. He does interview ChrisHansen at some point and and the
interview does end with himgoing, all right, you're free to
go. You're free to walk out thedoor. The classic, like Chris
Henson, like, you can leave.

But that's the other iconic line, yeah,
you're free to go, yeah. Butthere's,

there's just, like, a lot of these, like,
it's, it's great, because I'vegone through phases with To
Catch A Predator as a kid, I'dwant there was, like, the show
my dad and I would watch whenmom wasn't home, because we
thought it was the funniestthing ever. And then, like, in
college, I'd watch it. I'm like,this is depressing on a lot of
levels, because, like, there'smultiple angles and layers of

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exploitation happening here andand definitely now is like an
adult, it's very not greatfeelings towards what that
program was doing, what theywere how they were executing,
what they were doing, andeverything with it. And it just
kind of becomes that, like blueline pornography, you know, like
cops and whatnot, and at the endof the day, you're watching

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someone's life get ruined. Andthat's we, we turn that into a
funny thing. It's, see,

that's the thing is, like you said, the the
crime is already been committed,the the charges these guys are
up against is usuallysolicitation of a minor, which
happened in the chat room. Andthey have these reams of chat
logs on these people. So theshow was all about making these
guys squirm, you know, and, and,granted, yeah, in order to

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arrest them, you have to getthem there. And that shows
intent, especially when theyshow up with freaking condoms,
or sometimes they'll show upwith scary shit, like duct tape
and rope, you know. And you'relike, what was gonna happen
here? But the charges these guysface, they could have, you know,
they didn't need to put it onTV, the crime had been
committed. Yeah, if

they face crimes, there was famously one
city in Texas where they foundfigured out that the guy they
were talking to was a D, D,Assistant DA, or something like
that. And instead of when hewasn't coming to the house, they
went to his house with cops, andthe man shot himself. Yes, yeah.

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He was some kind of apolitician, yeah. And they aired
it, and they threw out everysingle case that they set up
there in that town. And it'sbecause, again, these aren't Law
officials or law enforcementofficials that are conducting
these stings in the chat roomsthemselves. And so how much of

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that evidence is admissible? Howmuch of it it could be
entrapment, you know? And that's

exactly what it is. They a lot of the cases
were dismissed because theyconsider it entrapment. They're
like, you know, if someone goesin posing as, you know, like a
15 year old girl, you know. Andit's a thin line, because they
have to be careful not to, notto solicit themselves, you know.

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And, and a lot of times theycrossed it. So, yeah, you're
right. A lot of the cases gotdismissed, and a lot of them
didn't, because I think theydid. They did get a lot of
creepy people off the streets.

That's, that's the questions that were, that
were that the documentary isdealing with. It's like, on one
hand, it's like, yes, we'regetting some of the bad guys.
But it's like, it, yeah, it's,it's an interesting watch, uh,
especially if you grew up duringthe time when it was airing,
yeah, yeah.

And it does make me think about how just re.
Recently, the Department ofDefense was considering starting
a reality TV show, oh my God,for people who want to become
for immigrants who want tobecome citizens, and they would
televise people being deported.

So you want to be a citizen. So

it does feel like, and also didn't it start
kind of in the beginnings of thereality TV craze in the early
2000s it was, it was around

that time, yeah, it was a little after
Yeah. It was like a spin off,because Chris Hansen went to
another country and what, anddid a report on the trade on

well. And also, it started as just a
segment of Dateline, and then itbecame its own show, because
people responded so much to itand and

Chris Hanson has done like four alliteration
since he's he's on like, someblue line streaming channel with
it. Yeah, I

was gonna say you can find it on YouTube. He's
made an entire career out ofthat. Yeah, let's start talking
about some of these new horrormovies that here's here's the
deal. We missed another episode.
We suck. But, this is going tobe another one of these catch up
episodes, because so much hascome out in the last month. The
big thing out right now, let'stalk about Final Destination
Bloodlines. Oh yeah, that wasgood. Have you guys seen this?

(11:12):
If you see it, Correia, yes,

I saw it in IMAX. Not

yet. I want to though. Okay,

here's the deal with it. You know, these
Final Destination movies, it'sall the same movie. It's always
the same movie. So what you wantis these Rube Goldberg machine,
you know, death scenes. And inthis movie, they are even more
out there. I mean, they totallyembrace the craziness in in

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these scenes. And what makesthis one different is the
premonition that always startsall these movies where you know,
something bad happens, someonesaves everybody. Well, this one,
the premonition is actually agirl having a dream that was her
grandmother's premonition, andher grandma saved a bunch of
people. It's in this high riserestaurant that. And it's so

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funny, because it's typicalFinal Destination fashion.
You've got the kid throwingpennies off the roof, you've got
the fire in the pan going off,you've got the cracks in the the
glass dance floor. Yeah, I mean,you're like, Well, hey, what's
gonna happen? What's gonnahappen, what's gonna happen.

Oh, so, just as an aside, I do love that, like
it's clearly that they wanted touse, like, the Seattle sky
needle or something, butcouldn't. So they came up with
the Sky View.

Yeah, it looks like the Space Needle
actually, because it goes upthere and then it's, yeah, it
looks it looks like it, but, um,so this woman's grandma ends up
saving hundreds of people. Andthe whole crux of this is death
couldn't get through all thepeople that cheated it. It took
a while to get through them. Sothey all had families. So that's

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more people that shouldn't existthat death has to come for. And
it kind of ties the other fivemovies together with that. So
it's, so, you know, it's a finaldestination movie. But it is,
it's, it's bloodlines, which, asa freaking a side. Why are we
doing all these Bloodlines? Weuse this Pet Semetery:

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Bloodlines, HellraiserBloodline. I mean, what else is
there? There's Wrong TurnBloodlines (4: Bloody
Beginings). It's

just one of those kind of trade sequels,
subtitles, like resurrection,Genesis in Space Yeah.

Dibs on an evil bloodlines. But anyway,

oh and yeah, I also got to say that you know
that this was Tony Todd's finalfilm appearance. And man, did he
leave on a high note. Oh

yeah, he, you could tell that he, you could
tell that he was not well infilmming this but it was so
great to see him and you know,and again, he, as Bloodworth
does in all of these movies, heties the whole thing together,
but he wraps it up with a bow.
I'd be surprised if they doanother final destination after
this, yeah.

And also, I found out that he improvised his
lines so like his speech aboutthe preciousness of life and
appreciate the time we have wasjust him,

and that's just all the more poignant
knowing it was his last movie.
Yeah. Oh man,

I I would have seen it, but I was too busy
spending three and a half hoursat the Egyptian theater watching
the new 4k restoration of thedirector's cut for Kingdom of
Heaven, which, oh, yeah, so wasI. That's it. It's one of those
screenings. I think it was thatand Willow, we both had no idea
the other one was going. Weshowed up and it's like, of

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course you're here, of courseyou're here to see Willow on
matinee. Of course you're hereto see Kingdom heaven. But it's
not horror. I'll be real quick.
Everyone knows kingdom ofheaven. Theatrical was not good
at all. They just had all theset pieces, none of the
character backstories. I thinkof the theatrical cut, like Eva
Green's character shows up liketwice, and it's like, how do you
cut out her storyline? It'sinsane. It's like Napoleon. You

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knew that Vanessa Kirby had waymore screen time in the
director's cut, but. Kingdom ofheaven. Directors Cut is an
AMAZING film. It, yes, it'sthree and a half hours long. Get
over it. It's the best moviemade about the Crusades. And the
new restoration is even better,because not only is the picture

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better, but they actually wentback and re scored it, because
the original roadshow side thescore. They didn't do a full
score for the director's cut, sothey, like, there was some,
like, weirdness with it, becausethey were extending, like, the
theat, what was made for thetheatrical version. But it,
yeah, it's, it's a near perfectfilm. And having recently
watched Ridley Scott's RobinHood, which is not a good Robin

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Hood movie, but it is a prettydecent sequel to the director's
cut of Kingdom of Heaven, if youwatch them back to back, ie kill
your entire fucking day. Butyeah, Kingdom of Heaven, that's
coming out on 4k soon. Sodefinitely check that out. Yeah,

and had a really good time revisiting Willow,
which was in honor of Val Kilmeris passing. And like you said,
it best though that Val Kilmerin Willow is doing a live action
Bugs Bunny. Oh,

absolutely, he is living in, he is Bugs Bunny
in a Lord of the Rings esquemovie. He is literally, if Bugs
Bunny was playing Aragorn. He's

doing, he's doing a rogue character like
from a D and D campaign. Andalso, I do have to highlight
that Warwick Davis is so good,and Willow, I wish he did get
more leading roles like that. Imean, although he's great in all
the Leprechaun movies, to besure, but like as a heroic lead,
like he's he's reallycharismatic in Willow, and he's

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very sympathetic, as he's afamily man, and he wants to
protect his family, but also hewants to help this baby. And
he's a trickster guy, becausehe's trying to be a sorcerer,
but he has to kind of usewhatever cunning he has. And,
yeah, I forgot, yeah, no,they've been years since I'd
seen it, and it's held up prettywell. Oh, also, all those Phil

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Tippet effects, those, those aregreat.

Oh, the two headed dragon is phenomenal.
Yeah,

the fire breathing two headed dragon.
Yeah? And in terms of newreleases, uh, Have either of you
guys seen They Call Her Death?

No, but I just heard about that one. Yeah, no,

I was lucky. I got to go to a film print
screening of it at the newBeverly on Monday, and it's kind
of a throwback to, like the oldschool spaghetti and Euro
Westerns of the 70s. Isbasically about this woman whose
husband is framed for murder, sohe's killed by bounty hunters,

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and she knows that somebody sethim up, so, like, they were
former outlaws. So she goes backin the saddle and is out for
revenge, and is it's a lot offun. It's kind of like one of
the kind of Grindhousethrowbacks from the 2000s like
Hobo With A Shotgun orGrindhouse, Machete, that type

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of thing. It also has somehorror elements to it, because,
like, she keeps on seeing thespecter of death like the Grim
Reaper. So there's these kind ofhorror dream sequences, plus the
Gore is like crazy over the top,without spoiling too much, there
is a particularly brutal sceneof testicular torture. Yeah, and

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also yes is it's also kind of abit of throwback to stuff like
Thriller. They Call Her One Eye,and a lot a lot of those revenge
thriller exploitation movies.
And it's really an incredibleindependent production too,
because the cast and crew werethere, and it was made over the

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course of like two and a halfyears in Wichita, Kansas, for
like a budget of $40,000 so itjust really goes to show that
kind of regional ingenuity. Andit's on Shudder now too. So
like, I'd recommend checking itout there if you can. Although
it's so cool that they were ableto get a film print done and

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screen it at the new Beverly asa double feature with another
infamous Euro pseudo horrorWestern Cutthroats-Nine, which
was one of Tarantino's maininspirations for the Hateful
Eight. Oh, nice,

cool. I saw something that it, it won't be
out for another week or so, but,um, it's the it, the new movie
from the Philip you, however,you say it, brothers, the guys
who made Talk to Me, Bring HerBack. You were raving about
this. This movie's amazing. Thismovie is intense. It. This is
solidified. Those guys. I'mgoing to watch anything those

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guys make. They, they have beenelevated to the to the level of
like Ari aster and RobertEdgars. For me, they're, I'm
gonna watch anything these guysmake from here on out. This
movie, basically, there's a, um,visually impaired girl and her
stepbrother and their dad dies,so they get put into foster
care. And, um. Um, Sally Hawkinsis the foster mom, and she

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actually lost a daughter. Sothere's kind of like this
mediation on grief on bothsides, you know, these kids that
lost a parent and a woman wholost a daughter. But of course,
you know, it's not just grievinga daughter that this woman is
doing. She there's, there'scrazy stuff going on. And Sally

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Hawkins is amazing that she's itreminds me of Octavia Spencer in
MA or Isabel Lupe in Greta. Youknow, just this Oscar caliber
actress who's kind of slummingit in this, you know what is
kind of a grind house horrormovie, because it's, it's weird.

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It's kind of a, I don't reallywant to spoil anything, but it
and they kind of go into this inthe trailer. It's kind of like
an occult possession thing, butnot really, oh, but it's so it's
so crazy, it's so intense. It isreally, again, not to spoil
anything, but, but the littlepromo thing they gave away at

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the screening was a little thingof Bring Her Back dental floss.
That'll give you a little teaseron on what's coming up. But, oh
my god, bring her back is sogood. I'm

I'm glad it's good, because I think Sally
Hawkins missed, uh, skipped outon Paddington in Peru for this.

So wow, yeah, that's, yeah, that's a, that's
an bold choice. But it workedout because she's awesome in it.
Yeah, you would have

thought that she would have wanted to do
Paddington after that, if it'ssuch an intense movie, you know,
needing, I mean, I mean, comeon, it's, there's a singing nun.

And yeah, Antonio Banderas in multiple
roles and doing kind of a GreenGoblin split personality thing.
Ah, yeah, padding in Peru wasfun, yeah. And I am a big I was
a big fan of talk to me, so I amvery excited to see bring her
back.

Oh, it's, oh yeah. It's so good. Another
thing. Let's go back a littlebit, since we haven't talked in
a while, do you guys seethunderbolts?

Yes, I did.

No, not yet.
Thunderbolts is, it's a lot offun. It is. It kind of lost me
towards the end, becausebasically thunderbolts, they're
kind of assembling the NewAvengers, now that the Avengers
are gone. But the thing is, withit is, there's only one with
special power, well, two, if youcount something, that's a bit of
a spoiler, but you've got, like,you know, assassins and super

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soldier, you know, Super Soul,that's all they are. But, um,
David Harbour's character, andhe was in Black Widow, he's kind
of like the Russian CaptainAmerica. He is hysterical in
this oh yeah, no. He's great.
He's he's like, the comic,because he totally wants to.
He's the one who's embracing,let's form this team. And the
others are all kind of like, Iwork alone, you know, I don't

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really want to do this. And he'slike, no, no, no, we are. And
they name it after Elena theBlack Widow, yeah. The New Black
Widow, her soccer team when shewas younger, is the
Thunderbolts, and that's wherethey get their name. And no one
wants to call it thunderbolts,but they don't have

any better ideas. So it also was there. It
was her soccer team that, likenever won. Yeah, they never

but David harbor scared, he keeps going,
we are thunderbolts. We are andthat's why there's an asterisk
on it, because they're, theywant to be the new Avengers kind
of, or not want to be. They'regetting thrust into it. But
it's, it's, it's fun as far asthese new Marvel movies go. You
know, it's interesting to seewhat Marvel is trying to do,

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because it seems like they'rejust throwing stuff at the wall
and seeing what sticks. And Ithink Thunderbolts might be
sticking. Yeah,

it did feel like kind of a return to form for
Marvel in that, you know, it wasmore character focused, rather
than, like, oh, gotta save theworld. And like, just kind of
this big, high concept stuff.
You know, it's just fun to kindof have a bunch of these
characters and personalitiesclash and kind of be a more
personal story. I was also a bigfan of the character Bob,
without going into it too much,who's kind of a burnout who

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finds himself in anextraordinary situation. And I
was a big fan of Julie LouisDreyfus in the movie, who plays
kind of the government oversightperson, but who's also very
corrupt, and is basically, ifSelena Myers from Veep was a
Marvel character. So, you know,she knows how to play it. Yeah,

she, she is, was the head of this? Or it was
her brain child? Was it calledthe sentry program? Yeah, Sentry
program, yeah, so and, and itwas kind of an offshoot of the
Captain America, you know, thesuper soldier thing. But way,
way, you know, on a biggerlevel, and she's trying to kind
of cover her tracks the wholetime, because it was, it's, it

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was considered like unethical.
And this, this takes place inthe universe. They make
reference to the fact that, youknow. So the President turned
into a Big Red Hulk.
They go back to brave new worlda little bit. You know, they
mentioned it so it's in the sameuniverse. But, yeah, another,
another franchise movie thatthat I saw, that it might be

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worth talking about just for asecond, Another Simple Favor.
Either you guys see anothersimple favor. This is

how I know that the last few weeks have
been hell for me, because Ihaven't watched the new a simple
favor sequel like That's insane.
This

movie, okay, they set it up for you. Blake
Lively's character, um, Emily isin jail for murder if he when we
last left you in another in asimple favor, and Stephanie, the
Anna Kendra character, haswritten a book about the case a
true crime book, or she's at abook signing and freaking Emily

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walks in. She's out of jail onappeal, and she asks Stephanie
to be her maid of honor at herwedding in Italy, you know,
Capri island in Italy. And,okay, there's so much wrong with
this right from there. Love it,but, um, but then Stephanie is
like, why would I go somewherewith you, of all people? And she

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says that, you know, she, shekind of threatens her with,
like, Sue and her because of herbook and all this other so
anyway, she goes, and, ofcourse, there's murder and
mayhem on the island. It's alittle more. It's the thing is,
Paul, Paul Feig, there's no wayhe could do another, another
simple favor, because peopleexpect it was such a breath of

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fresh air knowing that he's sodoing like comedy, and he go,
and this is more of like amystery, suspense kind of a
thing. Well, this time, he leansa little more into the comedy,
and it is a little more farfetched, but it kind of works.

The original works so well because it there.
There's always like, the mysteryis really good, but there's this
underlining of just like divaNess, or, as I would say, like
cuntiness to it, that just likepops off real well, definitely
like the camp factor was therewith their performances, which

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mixed with like these over thetop, very like Blake Lively had,
like a new outfit that was justlike everything and every scene.
So as long as it keeps servingthat like, I'm all I'm all for
it, I'm here for it. Yeah,

another new thing that came out, and I think
this. I don't know if it's onshudder yet, but it's heading
there. I think Clown in aCornfield. Oh,

yes, did you watch Clown in Cornfield? Yeah,
I saw it. I saw it in theaters.

Yeah, I saw, I will. I actually, I got a link
for it, but, um, it is intheaters now. And what do you
think of clown? I loved

it. Big fan.
Madam says theirs work, and itwas directed by Eli Craig, who
did Tucker and Dale versus evil,which I'm a big fan of. So, you
know, it's a great match. Andyeah, and a lot of fun with it.
It's got a clown, it's got acornfield. Has got a lot of dead
teenagers.

It's, it's another one of those ones that
you don't really want to spoiltoo much about because, because
there are some fun surprises.
But it's weird because it is.
It's a better movie than itshould be, because you think
clown in a cornfield, this isgoing to be like one of those
asylum horror movies. And itkind of does have that feel. It
kind of has that, that bigbudget, you know, little story,

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kind of a kind of a feel to it.
It has a little more story thanyou would expect to it. But it
is, yeah, it delivers on itspremise. There's a clown,
there's a cornfield, and there'slots of carnage,

and it's funny that it's more of a throwback to
90s horror slashers, because,like the the prologue even has
kind of a segment set in 1991 Ithink. And, yeah, no, because
it's, you know, kind of slashermystery where, you know, you got
the clown Friendo, and he'spicking people off one by one,

(29:02):
and you don't know who it is,and there's a lot of mystery as
as to who and why. So, yeah, itdoes have kind of a scream edge
to it. What,

what it is, is this town kettle springs, is
what it's called, Mississippi,yeah. And they this town used to
the economy of the town wasbuilt around this corn syrup
factory, and friend, oh, theclown was the mascot of this
corn syrup factory. And the cornsyrup factory burned down. So
the town is basically, most ofthe town is out of work. So

(29:36):
there's kind of, like, thatwhole depressed, you know,
economy kind of a thing youknow, that the the kids all want
out of the town, and the adultsare trying to basically just
make ends meet in the town, andthen all of a sudden, the rep,
the icon from the brand that waskeeping the town of afloat is
starts killing people. So it's,there's kind of a there's kind

(29:58):
of an underlying message to ittoo. It's more. Than just, you
know, a clown killing teenagers,although there is plenty of
clown killing teenager action.
Hey,

as long as it delivers out the title, you
know, it does. There's a clown.
He's in a cornfield. But, yeah,let's do it. I got an amazing
package from the amazing folksover at Ignite films. It's the
40th anniversary Reanimator 4kset, nice, which, if any, if
anyone knows me, Reanimator isone of the all times for me.

(30:30):
This is, I think I own almost asmany copies of this as I do the
John Carpenter's The Thing, Iwill never stop buying new
restorations of the ofReanimator. And I gotta say,
Ignite films knocked it out ofthe park again, because they did
the incredible 4k release forthe original Invaders From Mars,
which, I think if you own a 4kplayer, you need to own that.

(30:53):
But this one that they they wentabove and beyond, like, I know
you guys can't see it becauseit's a podcast. We don't do
video, but it's a thick set. Itcomes with a booklet, a new
book, our art cards. Therestoration itself is absolutely
phenomenal. They really wentthrough, really clean it up.
Jacob, I think we saw the 4krestoration at that screening

(31:16):
last year. Yeah, the Egyptianwith, uh, with Jeffrey Combs and
all that. Grantham, it looksincredible. The film has aged
beautifully. Oh, yeah. And thegreat thing about about
Reanimator is you see the seams,but it's a part of the fun like
you it's one of the specialfeatures on it. They talk about

(31:37):
how when you see an effecthappening on it. You can tell
how it's done, and that'sawesome, like and you can see it
even more in 4k It's all ondisplay, but the they have a lot
of the legacy bonus featuresfrom previous cuts. It's the
directors cut that's in 4k forthose wondering. They but they
do include the integral cut aswell on Blu Ray, but they shot a

(31:58):
whole bunch of new specialfeatures. There's a 40 minute
interview with Barbara Crampton,Jeffrey Combs and Brian Yuzna.
There's an interview with theeditor, like a 20 minute
retrospective on the impact,where they interview people like
Joe Lynch and the director ofboogeyman, the recent one, and a

(32:20):
bunch of others they theyinterview with Carolyn Purdy
Gordon. And also, one thing thatwas of real interest to me,
because I've been reading StuartGordon's book Naked Theater and
Uncensored horror, is they havea decently length documentary

(32:41):
looking back on Reanimator, themusical, and what went behind
that, which was very late stagetheater Stuart Gordon. But they
also have a documentary from1977 which is all about the
Organic Theater Company ofChicago, which is where Stuart
Gordon got a start, did a lot oflive theater. They were doing a

(33:02):
lot of original productions. Soit's really cool seeing those,
those very important pieces ofStuart Gordon's life, which is
live theater and the bookends ofthem. So, yeah, I mean, if you
own a 4k player, obviously, ifyou love Re-animator, you got to
get this new set. It's, it'sabsolutely incredible. I won't
be getting rid of my old onesjust because I have trouble

(33:25):
letting go of things. Bit of ahoarder. But this new one, it's,
it's damn near definitive. It isdefinitive. It's, it's
Re-animators never lookedbetter. And the amount of
features on it, like I spend awhole day just going through
them, and I haven't evenfinished watching all of them.
It's fantastic.

When you say the guy who directed boogeyman
is that Rob Savage, there

we go. Yes.
Okay,

the guy did host, yeah, yeah.

I was sitting here like, why am I forgetting
his name? It's like, not a hardname to for to remember Rob
savage. Like, come on, it's agood

name. We were fans of his from Host too. Yeah,

yeah. I still need to see Boogeyman. I really
liked it, yeah,

man.
Boogeyman is cool. As far asStephen King adaptations go. I

know. I love King adaptations.

You know what I saw? They had a, another one
of those voodoo sales that itwas super cheap. There was a
two. Oh God, two. Two moviebundle. Correia knows this is
going for five bucks, the Winniethe Pooh Blood and Honey movies.
Oh boy. I had seen the firstone. I have not seen a second.

(34:34):
The second is. The second isactually a pretty solid it.
There's more story to it, and itkind of goes more into
Christopher Robin's, the mentaltorment, you know, it's, it's, I
mean, granted, it is just a lotof these characters killing
people, but you have owl andTigger now, and owl is crazy.

(34:57):
Owl kind of looks like the comicbook Spider Man. Man, Vulture
and Tigger. Tigger was a littledisappointing, because they make
a big deal about he's like, theykeep him locked away in this
room. And I was expectingsomething like the Berserkers on
in from night breed. But hejust, he comes out, and he just
kind of looks like, you know,pooh or Piglet, but with, like,

(35:20):
a bouncy tail, you know? So he'snot, but, I mean, he is bounce.
No, he doesn't bounce, which is,that's another disappointment.
But, yeah, it's, it's, there's alittle more story to it, but it
is pretty much just a gore fest.
So

you've watched, did you also get
Piglet? Because I know pigletwas on.

Is that the same, the same franchise? Oh,
no. So, because

I didn't get Piglet, I was gonna say, Jay,
are you gonna watch all ofthese? Because there's a bunch
of connected ones. There's PeterPan's nightmare or nightmare
land. I think there's a biggerone, right? Yeah, I think that
one hasn't come out yet, though.
And then they're gonna do like abig Avengers thing. There's a
Bambi one? I think it's like acinematic universe with the Have

you seen the Popeye one? I've only seen the
teaser. I've no not even that,the the poster and and, of
course, Popeyes got freaking,you know, forearms the size of
his thighs.

Popeye the Slayer, man. I mean, that's what
they went with.

It's brilliant. I

mean, I feel like, feel like, that's like a
just once they're all out. It'slike, All right, let's dedicate
a weekend to this. Let's do it.
Let's jump into it. Let's go inopen minded and open hearted,
you know, pretty

much. And speaking of camp, in terms of
repertory screenings, I was at amidnight show of one of the all
time great cult classics, trolltwo, last Saturday. Troll two,
yeah, you guys have all seentroll two, oh yeah.

I hope you didn't piss on their
hospitality, Jacob, because Iwon't allow it.

Nope, nope. Did not piss on hospitality. I
learned my lesson a long timeago. Good, but yeah, no, just,
you know, it a while since I,uh, since I re watched it. And
also it was cool because it wasa 35 millimeter print, and I
don't think I've ever seen trolltwo on film, but, yeah, no, it
is just such a fun crowd movie,still, you know, just, just all

(37:24):
this stuff with the grandpa gota big reaction out of the
audience. And, like, I don'tthink the audience really knew
how to respond during the cornpopcorn sex scene in the RFP.
And, yeah, I don't

know how to respond. You get into it seems
hot. Yeah, no, a

friend of mine was saying she should have spit
in his mouth, like HaleyStanfield in Sinners. And yeah,
and also, they're eating her.
They're gonna eat me. Oh, myGod, they got like a standing
ovation. It was pure, is purecinema. And, yeah, you know,
just yeah, like, I do. I dostill really appreciate these so

(38:03):
bad. It's good kind of coldhorror because, yeah, it's like,
great community screenings. And,yeah, like, I did. I ever tell
you guys I was in thedocumentary, best, worst movie

The we're not doing this again. We're not
doing this again, Jacob. We'renot doing this again. Stop

looking for you again. I

will. No, I swear to God, I'm in there. You
could see me in a group hug withGeorge Hardy, the dad. Oh, my
dentist, dad. This

is the all productivity of my day is gone
now. Just gonna be scanning

another thing that I saw, and I think Jacob
saw it too, but Correia has not.
So we want to stay prettyspoiler free, but I do want to
talk about it. Friendship,

oh yes.
Friendship, okay. Friendship,

this is Paul Rudd's one two punch between it
and death of a unicorn for a 24friendship is it's about this
kind of loser dude who makesfriends with his cool neighbor.
Who the cool neighbor is PaulRudd,

yeah, it's Tim Robinson, who's playing the
loser guy from, I think youshould leave,

yeah, okay, this, it's, I mean, it's, it's
questionably horror, but you canput it in a horror lens. Here's
the deal with it. And I'm, Ireally don't want to spoil any
of this for Correia, but I'mgoing to give you a different
lens to watch this in Korea,because I've been struggling
with this one. I think that itbasically, I think he

(39:33):
manufactures his friendship withPaul Rudd's character. And I if
you look at it through comparingit to like King of Comedy or
even Joker, where you're notsure how reliable the narrator
is, and then you startquestioning yourself, okay,
well, how much this reallyhappened, and where friendship
doesn't do it quite as well asthose others. Is it doesn't

(39:55):
really lift the curtain. Itdoesn't really give you the the
answer. It doesn't, you know,give. The answer it, whereas
those other ones let you knowtowards the end, okay, Joker has
been lying to us this wholetime. This one doesn't really do
that, but, um, but it just gaveme a new a new way to look at
it. I'm like, because it's thefirst thing that makes you

(40:16):
wonder about it, is there's noway that this loser dude would
get a wife as hot as Kate Marayou're like, Okay, something
isn't add up, and she does. Andagain, I don't know how much
this is, just through his eyes,she hangs out a lot with one of
her exes, so he's kind ofprojecting, and he's like, kind
of suspicious, but also kind ofgetting cuckolded. And you're

(40:38):
like, well, which is it? I don'tknow this. It's a weird it
doesn't go to the dark placesyou'd expect it to, but there's
definitely some there'sdefinitely some therapy that
needs to be had in this movie.
What did you think of it? Ireally

loved it. I thought it was so funny, and
it's funny that it was notwritten by Tim Robinson, but
it's very in line with his typeof humor from like, I think he
should leave, and that kind ofcringe comedy, but yeah, I do
feel like there's a bit of ahorror lens to it, because it is
a lot about obsession, and he'sstopped, and he's he's stalking

(41:15):
his cool neighbor. So it doeshave kind of that Cable Guy edge
to it for modern times. I alsolove that the tagline of the
movie is men shouldn't havefriends. They should have Yeah,
men shouldn't have friends.
That's the tech line of themovie, and it is kind of kind of
dealing with how like afriendship can spiral out of

(41:38):
control, though, it just takesit to an entirely different
level. And there's a reallygreat scene where he's so
desperate to try and figure hisshit out that he tries to do
drugs, and he's convinced to trylicking a toad. And I will, I
won't say what happens, but it'sincredible incredible, what they

(42:00):
do with that

the toad. And he the guy who sets him up with
the toad. It's like a quicklittle thing, where he go. He's,
he goes 100 bucks. He's, well,what do I feed it? He's on No,
100 bucks per lick, yeah,

yeah, no, just it. It is just such a fun
dynamic and it, yeah, no, it isan interesting movie because I,
I actually went to a prescreening of it, and the
director even said that he wrotethe movie as a response to
having a falling out with afriend, or like he was trying to
be friends with this guy, and hewas, uh, rejected. So this is,
this is a response. He is.

Tim Robinson, yeah.

Before we go, I have a I have a book nook
recommendation, because ifyou're like me and you have
become obsessed with Sinners, Iactually saw it for a third
time, this time in IMAX, 70millimeter, which, oh, oh,
Gorgeous. Gorgeous, gorgeousgreeting, gorgeous. I was crying

(43:04):
so much at the end. But ifyou're obsessed and there's a
bit of a hole in your heartbecause you can't really go see
it again, and you already saw itin IMAX, I got really into this
comic book series. It's calledBitter Root, and it's it's
absolutely phenomenal. It takesplace predominantly during the

(43:24):
Harlem Renaissance of the 1930sand it follows this family.
They're like demon hunters, andthey hunt these creatures called
genuine which is what happens tohumans whose hearts and souls
are filled with so much hatredand racism that they become
these creatures, and it's this.
So it's this black family.
They've been fighting it forgenerations. Ma Etta, she's the

(43:48):
matriarchy of the of the family,and no one knows her age, but
she keeps saying that she wasfreed by Harriet Tubman, and
like they lost families at theTulsa race massacres. And
there's so much aboutgenerational trauma and racism
and but with all in the contextof like horror and it's so much

(44:12):
fun. It's like Lovecraft Countrymeets Ghostbusters, essentially,
but with, like, far more of asteampunk esthetic, the artwork
is incredible. The story andcharacters are super rich. I
think legendary already has theadaptation rights to it, so I
hope they do something. But thethe original run is already

(44:33):
collected in an omnibus, andthey have a new series called
Bitter Root, the next movement,which I haven't gotten into yet,
but the covers for it have thisvery like, 1950s 60s, future
futurism, kind of like what thenew Fantastic Four looks like,
but mixed with, like, AfroFuturism and a bit of black

(44:54):
exploitation influence. So like,yeah, Bitter Root, especially if
you have that Sinners itch. I.
Highly recommend. It is such agreat read.

Sinners Itch is the name of my next band.
Ooh, ooh.

I hate when people do Band games, but that
is a good band name.

And speaking of book nook, like I just started
rereading, or I started readingStephen King's Nightmares and
Dreamscapes. I think, I think Irewatched, oh yeah, because I
rewatch creep show a coupleweeks ago, and I was in the mood
for some Stephen King, so Idecided, been a while since I

(45:35):
picked up one of theanthologies. And nightmares and
dreamscapes seem to have a goodmix of a lot of the shorts I
like, particularly adaptations,because, like, it's got the
night flyer in there, I think ithas, well, it has all the
stories that were in thenightmares and dreamscapes mini
series way back when, and alsohas some stories that were never

(45:56):
adapted but are pretty fun, likerainy season and, Yeah, you
know, just it a while since I'veread King, but yeah, he just has
such a hook in such a way with,uh, really getting you into a
premise, no matter howridiculous or how fast,

how can you be sure that it hasn't been
adapted with all of the 1000s ofKing addictions that are just
like, you Know, the dollarbabies and stuff,

fair point. But some of, I mean, there's still
some stuff that has beenadapted, just because of the
sheer amount of short storiesthat Eaton King has written. I
mean, how many anthologies arethere? Good God. I

mean, it's an insane amount. I'm trying to get
through my Swamp Thing run aswell as Bitter Root. Before I
crack into the Bachman books,which is a collection of four
early novels that were he didunder Bachman, including the one
that was never reprinted. I wasgonna say, Do you

what the school shooting one, right?
What's it called? Rage? Rage,yeah. Rage, yeah, yeah. So you
have a copy of it that has ragein it, then,

yeah, it's definitely not as rare as the,
you know, just rage on its ownbooks, but it's a cool
collection I'm looking forwardto. I think it also has Running
Man in there. Yeah, Running Manis one of the I'm staring at it
on my shelf, but I can't reachit like headphones won't allow
me to but yeah, all

right, cool.
Well, we're pretty much justdone here. Apologize for a
couple things, for the shortepisode, for one and also for
missing a week because, youknow, hey, we all just kind of
got busy and life happens, yeah,and this is also why we're on
both accounts, why we missed aweek, and this one's getting cut

(47:46):
short.
So yeah, hope you like theepisodes where we just catch up,
because who knows when we'll doanother topic or guest? Maybe we
should just do these just

once a month?
No,

we're switching to once a month, just
the three of us talking.

We'll see I'm not

even gonna promise that we're gonna see you
in two weeks, because last timeI did that, I ended up with egg
on my face. If you miss my voicein the times we're not here, you
can hear it on the crypto zoo,which does still go every two
weeks. And if you miss Jacob'svoice, the hallow rewind has
been pretty consistent too, atputting episodes out so you can
hear him there. If you missKoreas voice, I don't know,

(48:28):
maybe send a message to us. Hemight be able to, he can send
you his red right hand.
Acapella, yeah, if revision, if

you miss my voice, I'm gonna say tough
titties. But you can alsomessage us on Instagram and
I'll, I'll rant about X Files orStar Trek at Yeah, if you want,
especially X Files, I wantseason five right now, go

get me started to start. Yeah,
actually, do get him startedabout Star Trek. So he does it
to you guys, and not us.

Well, I mean, if you get me started on X
Files, just get ready for me torefer to Skinner and Mulder as
baby girl quite a bit, becauseit's, oh, don't even get me
started. Because X Files, Ithink, is proof that we need to
go back to the 22 episodeseason.

Oh, yeah, I dream of the day. Oh,

Twilight Zone did that for me. Like the
classic twilight zone, when youlook at how long those seeds
are, oh, it's beautiful.

Anyway, Twilight Zone needs to be a half
hour, this whole hour longtwilight zone episodes, guys,
that's what killed the originalseries. Stop when you're re
adapting it, making an hour,half hour tight, in, out, Go in,

go out. I always say Twilight Zone is the
only show that jumped the sharkand then jumped back, because it
was the fourth season where theywent to an hour. And those are
pretty and they're prettytedious, but then, well, some of
them are good, but yeah, thefifth season has some of the
most memorable episodes, though.
So you're like, when they wentback to a half an hour, they
went back to, yeah,

like the fifth season is what got us at
nightmare, 20,000 feet. Hellyeah,

which stars?
William Shatner, so the thingabout Star Trek, no,

okay, we're out of here, correct? Look,
yeah, if you want to hearKorea's Star Trek nook, message
him, but we'll, I will see you.
We'll see you when we see you,hopefully two weeks. But I'm not
gonna make promises anymore,because, you know, but, yeah,
our theme song is by restlessspirit. So go check them out.
They are on tour everywhere, allthe time, so you could probably

(50:21):
see them before you'll see usagain. Go and our artwork is by
Chris Fisher, so go check himout. You can see his artwork
anywhere, and you can find us onall the socials. If you do want
to hear Correia talk about StarTrek again, if you miss me or
Jacob, that's the cryptozoo andthe hallow rewind. Yeah, I'm
going to plug those because hey,oh yeah, not as many people

(50:42):
listen to the crypto zoo as I onhorror. I don't know about
hallow rewind, but anyway, soyeah, this sign offs taking
longer than it should, so I'mjust going to say we'll see you
when we see you. For me, James,Jay Edwards,

I'm Jacob Davison

and I'm Jonathan Correia.

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