Revisiting 1BR with Naomi Grossman and Alok Mishra

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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official
podcast of iHorror.com. This isEpisode 99, otherwise known as
season five, Episode 21.
Otherwise known as Season Fiveseason finale. I am your host
James Jay Edwards and with me asalways is your other host, Jacob
Davison, how you doing? Jacob?

Jacob Davidson (00:43):
Doing good back in LA. After, you know visiting
folks in Connecticut, andgetting ready for the first
night of Hanukkah tonight.

Oh, nice. You brought the cold weather with
you because it is cold out here.
I mean, and I know when it dipsinto the 40s as Californians cry
but yeah, Burr. Also with us, asalways is your other other hosts
Jon Correia. How you doingCorreia?

Jonathan Correia (01:11):
Oh, I'm nice and toasty. I got a new poncho.

A new one?
You have two now?

I now have two I have an indoor poncho and an
outdoor poncho. This is my thisis gonna be my outdoor poncho.
I'm breaking it in. It's alittle stiff. But yeah, this is
what I'm gonna be wearing attesting events from here out.

No such thing as too many ponchos.

Listen, it is, to quote the Mighty Boosh it is
impossible to be unhappy in aponcho.

So yeah, cool. What are you guys been
doing? One thing I want to talkabout here? Because it's all
over the internet. Let's startoff with the Adult Swim Yule
Log.

Yeah.

You've seen it, Jacob.

I've seen it.
I've seen it. All right.

Have you Correia?

No. How do you watch it? Do you do you need the
Adult Swim app?

It's on HBO Max.

Yeah, it's on HBO Max and I heard it's also on
I guess theyaired it at like 2:30 in the
YouTube. But I can't confirmthat because I watched an HBO
morning on Cartoon Network. Andat first the first like maybe
Max.

Yeah, same here.
three minutes is one of thoseyou logs. There's like music and
it shows a fire. And you and Ican see you going okay, this is
dumb. I'm turning it off. Don'tturn it off. Yeah, it it becomes
I mean, I don't want to give toomuch of it away. Although you

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can't really give anything awaybecause there's a little
everything in it. It's like it'sa kitchen sink. But there's a
horror movie in this you logthing. Yep. And it's it's it's
nuts. It's so crazy.
And to add somedetail this Yule Log special was

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written and directed by CasperKelly. The guy that gave us the
unforgettable Too Many Cooks.

Yeah. And also that what is it? Pictures
of a bear? What What's the fullname?

Yeah, like Unedited Footage of a Bear.

Yeah, yeah.
So you kind of know what you'regetting in with that because
that guy that guy's crazyhimself. And

he also was the guy who did the Cheddar Goblin
commercial lest we forget.

That's right.
Yeah.

So he's a hero of yours then right?

Yes, he is.

Always comes back to Mandy here.

Yep. Mandy's eternal just like Cheddar
Goblin.

I love Yule Logs, one of my favorite if I'm,
if I stay in LA I always go tothe Drawing Room which is a bar
my buddy works at that opens at6am. So I always go there on
Christmas morning and we watchthe KTVLA yule log which is
great because it's literallyjust them filming someone
stoking the fire it's terrible.
It's great. I love it.

Have you seen the yule log that is Darth
Vader's head from basically fromReturn of the Jedi when but it's
just however many hours ofVader's head burning

just on a loop.

Yeah. The other big thing that came out
this week is and not superhorror, but still a spectacle.

Avatar (03:54):
The Way of the Water

aka Avatar Two!

Avatar Two yes which the long awaited
avatar two, what 13 years late

13 years!

you have you guys seen this

yet? I did. I saw an IMAX 3d Just yesterday.

That's the only way to see it. I mean it
avatar it's an avatar movie.
It's what you expect. It's JamesCameron showing off his you
know, multi million dollarbudget. And the only way to
watch James Cameron

that is an understatement, multi million
dollar budget

100 million multi 100 million.

Doesn't it have to make over a billion
dollars just to like, breakeven.

It wouldn't surprise me

something like that.

It's but it's a visual feast. And the only way
to watch James Cameron show offhis budget is on an IMAX screen
in 3d with super Dolby. I mean,it's just, you know, I mean, I'm
as theater phobic as the nextperson in this pandemic time,
but you definitely need to seeAvatar. I mean, it should go
without saying that an avatarmovie should be seen on the
biggest screen possible, butman, it's an impressive feat of

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filmmaking.

I'm excited about the tech and the the pool
have, you know technology andwhere filmmaking can go? I just
I have issues with the whitesavior storyline and just white
creators just making films thatare indigenous stories and based
on it, it's similar reservationsI have to Dune and others, you

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know, but I'm sorry, I'm thatSpoilsport. Where I think

no, no, no, that's a valid criticism.

I mean, it is. And I mean, it's, it's not I
wouldn't really call it whitesavior, because the white guys
are the bad guys. Mostly,especially in this one because,
you know, spoiler alert for amovie that's 13 years old, the,
quote, white savior last time heassimilated into his avatar. So
he is one of the Navi now, youknow, and they kind of show that

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he's kind of outcast, becausehim and his kids all have four
fingers when regular NaVi havethree. So, you know, he's kind
of they're kind of treateddifferently. So I don't know if
I would consider this one aswhite savior as the first the
first one. You were saying thatyou were saying the northmen was
Lion King. The first onesPocahontas.

Oh, it's Pocahontas. It's legitimately
Fern Gully

Dances with Wolves.

It's like Dances with Wolves. Last Samurai
like it's it's the white saviortrope to a tee but it's it's
FernGully as fuck, but I mean,it's or district nine. I mean,
like it's yeah, it's such awidespread trope and yeah, but

yeah, but I will say I did really like the
creature effects like, it's notyet it doesn't exist. It's not
exactly horror. But there is ascene that kind of skirts horror
where like, there's a killerwhale crab shark thing that
tries to eat one of thecharacters and it's pretty
thrilling, very Jaws like andalso I really want avatar to to

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succeed because if avatar twodoes well, then it looks like
there's a pretty good chancethat there will be an Alita
sequel. And Damnit, I want that.

Didn't him and Rodriguez take a blood oath.

They took a blood oath. They say that they
will make that sequel over ablood oath. And I'm holding them
to it.

That's a bit much guys.

Tomato tomahto either way, I want it.

i Hey, listen.
I'm always down for blood oaths.
Yes, always. But that's juststill seems a bit much but who
am I to judge?

Look, it's James Cameron. He does what he does.

Yeah, he if James Cameron wants to make an
Alita sequel, it doesn't matterhow avatar two does. It'll get
made true. What else you guysbeen seeing?
No, not no.

Oh, well cinematic void with the American
Oh, man. It'sit's great. Basically, Elliott
Cinemateque been doing a veryfun untraditional Christmas
action movie series recently. SoI got I've seen a couple of
Gould plays a teller working ata bank on Christmas Eve. And he
them. Like they started off withone of my personal favorite
Canadian tax shelter movies. TheSilent Partner with Elliott
Gould, Christopher Plummer and avery young John Candy. Have you

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guys seen it?
sees that Christopher Plummer,who's dressed as Santa Claus is
planning on robbing the bank. Sowhen he does rob the bank, he
takes the money and shortchangesChristopher Plummer to pin the
money on so he could take themoney. And Christopher Plummer

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is this psycho criminal whostarts playing this game of cat
and mouse with him and wants therest of the money. So it is
incredible Kino Lorber did arelease of it a little bit ago
and you know, just in terms ofspecially can exploitation
movies, it's like, way up there.

I've been pretty much buried in award
screeners. But there are acouple things that I saw that,
that we already have talkedabout, so I don't want to get
too deep into them, but I caughtup with them. One is Guillermo
del Toro is Pinocchio. Which itis a beautiful movie. And I
think they made that GDT madethe right choice putting it in
fascist Italy because it works.
So well. They're Yeah, yeah.

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And, and Mussolini is even init. And the other thing I saw,
which we talked about on the top10s list, but not really in
depth is The Menu.

Yeah, no, that was one of my favorites this
year. Yeah, it is.

I mean, I don't think it would have made
my top 10 If I had seen itbefore, but it's definitely it's
funny because I was expecting itto be some kind of cannibalism,
most dangerous game kind of athing. And it's neither. It's
you know, it's weird, becauseit's like, it's not what I
expected it to be. But what itis made perfect sense if that
makes any sense. You know, itsurprised me. But then I was

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like, Okay, well, how else couldyou have done this? But yeah, it
was it was terrific. And theother thing I watched, which we
haven't talked about yet, for myword screening is Wendell and
Wild have either you guys seenthis?

No, but it's on my list.

Yes, it's US Netflix animated with Key and
Peele, they play these twodemons that they they basically
are there's this girl who losther parents and they're they
want to open up their owndemonic amusement park and they
to get her Help. She's She's ahuman there, they say they'll
bring her parents back. But Imean, it's more complicated than

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that. That's the that's theelevator pitch for it. But um,
it's I mean it's it's funnybecause it's definitely a horror
animated but it is, but it'stotally good for kids too. It's
like one of those gateway kidshorror you know, it's, it's
spooky but it's not going toreally terrify the pants off
anyone but it's a it's a funlittle little Netflix cartoon.

Which we need more of we need more stop motion
Yeah, more Kinder trauma. Weneed more kid friendly gateway
horror film. So yeah, that'sthat's on my list to watch this

week. Yeah.
Also, I just saw Violent Night.
Oh, that was that. Yeah, theDavid Harbour badass Santa
movie. It and yeah, it was a lotof fun. I really dug it. Because
yeah, it's Santa Claus. DieHard. And yeah, no, it's just
David harbor plays a great Santafor one thing and also it's just

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very, very interesting to seeJohn Leguizamo play the kind of
Hans Gruber bad guy for achange. Because he nailed it.

He's the bad guy. Yeah, he

played Yeah, he plays like the mastermind of the
like heist that Santa Clauswanders into but also he really
hates Christmas. Kind of. So itkind of ties into that. And ya
know, he he's having a greattime hamming it up and, and
somebody else pointed out it'sfunny because he actually played
like one of the henchmen in DieHard 2. So I'll but ya know, I'm

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hoping that we get more violentnights and just a an excuse to
have David harbor as Santa Clausjust killed the shit out of
people.

More violent nights. Have either you guys
seen it came out earlier thisyear, but it's not new at this
point at all that movie,Margaux. It's about the smart
house. You guys. Have you guyseven heard of it? It's it's the
one about the smart house. It'snamed Margaux. No, okay. It's,
it's pretty bad. It it's kind ofa cool concept. It's like all

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these college buddies aregetting ready to graduate they
go off to this. It's it's not itdoesn't it's not owned by any of
them. But they go to the smarthouse and you know, this smart
house like um, they have todownload an app on their phone
to open it and all this stuff.
And this house talks to themkind of like you know, like a
Siri kind of a thing. And ofcourse the house goes crazy and
starts you know, killing themand stuff. But where it lost me

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was it kept doing this thingwhere it would use this liquid
to like 3d print things. Andthen it also had these Doctor
Octopus arms that would come outof like tables and stuff that
would like do things for them.
And I'm like, this is like, it'sone thing to have like a smart
house, turn on your TV or youknow, turn on your music for
you. But now we're getting intoJetsons territory. And that's

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just kind of like one partthey're going to have breakfast
and and Margaux is like, I haveover 5000 Michigan rated
recipes. Let me know what youwant. And I'm like, I'll come
on, you know, I don't know. Andthen the payoff when it gets to
the payoff, it's it just getsdownright stupid.

It sounds very much so like a horror version of
like that Disney Channel movie.

Oh, yeah. Smart House.

Yeah, that one was like a kid's horror movie
because it's like they get asmart house and then like Katie
Segal you know from married withchildren and all that is like,
the the like aI representationof the house and like they start
she goes, she goes bonkers andwhatnot.

Like she wants to be the family's mother
because the family's mom diedand she kind of goes all how Hal
9000 on him.

I just remembered that one scene where
they like pour a bunch of likefood on the ground like watch
and like the ground shakes andlike absorbs they just like
never have to vacuum and it'sjust like,

it sounds like that one's a more realistic
house than that. Yeah, it I meanit. It's a great concept. And I
wish that they had gone adifferent direction with it than
they did. But but they didn't.
They went the direction it went.
So

the real terror about smart houses and
smart devices is the mass amountof data collection that happens
with Oh yeah, no one wants totalk about that. I've been
extremely busy with work theselast few weeks, but I did sneak
in another 2022 viewing Have youguys seen Lucky McKee's Old Man?
It's interesting. It's aboutthis guy who's hiking through

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the woods and he ends up in thiscabin that has an old man in it
played by Stephen Lang. And he'slike always walking around into
this like red one pieceunderwear thing that you know,
with the butt flap andeverything old timey and he's
very off the grid just in thiscabin. And immediately there's

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like this back and forth oflike, am I dangerous? You know
the old man's like, am Idangerous? Am I a danger to me
while holding a shotgun in hisface. But as the movie
progresses, they get to knoweach other a bit more. And
things get really weird.
Especially with that third act,the plot and then the twist are
a bit predictable you know, it'sit's kind of been done before

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but Stephen Lang gives a reallygreat performance I'm I'm very
used to Stephen Lang as like thebadass marine and avatar or, you
know, the badass blind guy who'svery does fucked up shit in
Don't Breathe and stuff but he'salways like that that older
muscular dude who's like badassand this he's very frail He's

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very kind of fragile, and yethe's still very powerful and
dangerous. And there's a there'sa few scenes where he's just
like, very vulnerable andtrembling. And it's, it's a very
great performance. It also hasMarc Senter, who plays the lost
man named Joe. And almost theentire movie takes place just in

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this cabin with just these two.
And there's some great back andforth it's some great acting
great monologues would I highlyrecommend it? I don't know if
you if you got some, you know, II didn't absolutely love it. But
I didn't hate the movie. Youknow, it's pretty solid. For
Lucky McKee movie, it was verytame in the blood and gore. But

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what it did it it did it youknow, but it's interesting, Old
Man, it's worth checking out. Ienjoyed it. I don't think it
would have made my top 10though. I also was up very late
last night and I bought thisvideo game called Sagebrush.
Jacob, you're the other videoyou're the video game guy. Have
you heard of Sagebush?

To be honest, no,

I would highly recommend Sagebrush it's right
now on the PlayStation Networkfor 59 cents. So what do you got
to lose? You can play the entiregame in like two hours. But
sagebrush it's a first personnarrative driven like
exploration game where you go tothis compound that was the site

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of a very traumatic thing thathappened with a cult back in
1993. Very Branch Davidianinspired and you spend the whole
game just exploring the compound

this is like made for you.

It's super made for me, dude, the the art
style, the like graphics and artstyle is very, like 90s computer
super pixelated, but 3d models,and you're just uncovering clues
to what happened there. And youdon't encounter anybody you
don't. There's no like monstersor anything to pop out. But

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like, you know, the sun goesdown as the story progresses.
And it's just very unsettling.
You're reading a lot of you'repicking up and reading a lot of
notes, you're finding taperecorders of various cult
members talking about it. And itmainly focuses on this one
called member Lillian, who hadher doubts. And there's, you
know, it's very classic, youknow, like the cult leader,

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there's a deceiver amongst us.
And you know, their scripture isradically changing to more and
more fucked up shit. And I wasup late editing the latest
episode of talking Titans. And Iended up staying up a little bit
long because I was supercaffeinated. So I was playing
this at two o'clock in themorning, last night, and I got

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freaked the fuck out. Like,there's one part where you open
a door, and there's like a roomwith a bed and there's like a
VHS camcorder and you turn onthe light and the whole room
glows red. And it's just like,oh, this is not that not good
stuff happened in here. That'snot even the most disturbing
room in the game. And then lateron, when it's like pitch
blackout, you have to go back tothat house. And the only way you

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can really see it is because ifif you left the red light on,
you can see the windows off inthe distance glowing red, and
it's just sagebrush, again. 59cents, even when it's not on
sale. It's like five or sixbucks. Like it's two hours. It's
like it's like a whole moviethat you play. It's gonna save

somebody who knows the story should do a
recording of it. And you know,because I don't really have any
interest in playing this game.
But I would like to see somebodyelse play

I know there's lots of I'm sure there's lots of
Let's Plays of it on YouTube.
You know, there's a market forit.

Come over, I'll play it for you.

What platform is it for?

So it's, it's on PlayStation. That's where I
played it. It's also on Steamand it's on all the others. It's
an indie game. It was made bythis it was just one guy. Pretty
much that made it and he voicedwhen a voice to like the cult
leader think it's sisterssomeone I saw on the credits a
lot of the same last names. Butyeah, I did a little reading he
spent like a year and a half onit. And it's it's very

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effective. It's it goes to showlike you don't need the
flashiest graphics, you don'tneed the like most insane like
boss battles or anythingsometimes like just having a
very strong narrative narrativeand a very strong like idea
works very effectively. Andyeah, I it again, it creeped the
shit out of me. So

it's definitely sounds like one of those games
that gets in your head. Yeah,I'm on the other side of things.
I actually got another horrorgame recently. Have either of
you heard of the Callistoprotocol

that name Sounds familiar.

Yeah, it's a new survival sci fi horror game. It
was made by the guys who madeDeadspace did either you play
those?

Oh, I was all about deadspace and deadspace
two when those games came out. Iam so mad the remaster is not
coming to ps4.

Yeah, no, me too, because it's I don't even
know how to get a PlayStationfive. Even if I wanted to get
one. Callisto protocol came outfor PlayStation four. So I was
able to get that and ya know,it's very much in line with that
kind of sci fi horror. And it'sa really fun concept because
it's basically your you flycargo for this prison on

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Callisto, the on the moon, ifit's like one of the moons of
Jupiter, and your starship isattacked and you crash back onto
the prison and then you'rearrested and imprisoned. And
when you wake up like all hell'sbroken loose, like there's a
riot and explosions and like allthe prisoners are free. But

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there's also this like virusviral infection going around,
that's mutating the prisonersand people into these horrible
mutants, with lots of goo andtentacles and all that stuff.
And you have to fight your waythrough the bowels of the prison
to try and get out. And, yaknow, it's very much a spiritual
sequel to Deadspace it's gotsimilar mechanics and some

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pretty decent creature design.
And, you know, this is one ofthe things where, like, I had to
put it down after a whilebecause it was just getting me
to tense but I mean, I'm gonnaget back into it, but ya know,
it's pretty effective. And yeah,I've always been, I've always
been a fan of that space games.
And yeah, it's too bad about,you know, the remake only being
PlayStation five exclusive. Soyeah, I'm glad I was able to

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kind of get back into that withCallisto protocol. been pretty

And now we have a couple of very special
good so far.
guests. We have the producer andone of the stars of the movie,
1BR. Let's welcome Alok Mishraand Naomi Grossman, how you guys
doing?

Naomi Grossman (21:57):
Great.

Alok Mishra (21:58):
Good. Very good.
Thanks for having us.

Yeah. Welcome to the show.

Yeah, thanks for being here. The question
that I always like to startwith, and let's, let's start
with you, Naomi. How did you getstarted in the industry? How did
you get started acting?

Um, what's before conception? Um, no, I
mean, listen, I'm not like DrewBarrymore or anything. But I
definitely from a very youngage, I knew exactly what I, you
know, wanted to be when I grewup, unfortunately, this was in
Denver, Colorado, where therewas really very little to do
other than, you know, Fatherdwelling mysteries, and, you

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know, Perry Mason, and regionalcommercials and, you know,
regional theater. So, so that'swhat I did, for a really long
time until, you know, until Icould go actually took a brief
respite to Argentina, vamosArgentina, we're celebrating
World Cup today. But, and thenfrom there, I went to, you know,

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Drama School in Chicago. Andafter four years of winter, I
was done with that and moved outto LA. To, you know, be a big
movie star, but, and actually, Imet Alok soon after, one of my
best friends in high schoolgames, rather, in college, was
one of his best friends in highschool. So, um, you know, I got

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to meet him early on, I didn'trealize that I was, you know,
networking from the very start.
But anyway, that doesn't reallyanswer your question. But, um,
but yeah, I mean, I did, I wouldsay I got my SAG card on my 15th
birthday, again, that was sortof kiss his death in Denver,
because there was really like,no union, there was nothing to
do there. Other than, you know,get old enough to leave home
and, you know, come toHollywood, but, but I did that,

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as soon as I could. I'm gonna

say she's also been very humble. Because she's like,
I went to drama school. She wentto drama school at Northwestern,
with like, you know, people likeZach Braff and Seth Meyers. And
you know, those people. So she'sbeing very humble when she says,
a drama school. Anyway. So,actually, that I was, you know,
I'm in the, you know, my fatherwas a doctor, you know, Indian

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people want you to be a doctor,lawyer, engineer, and kind of
thing and like, and I told mydad, I'll be a doctor, because I
was, you know, interested in itintellectually. But I didn't
love it. And literally, when Igot to the point where I took
the MCAT, and scored well enoughto get in, and I was like, I'm
not doing it to add on it toentertainment. It's been, like,
so broke apart for man. But hewas very, you know, very

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supportive. And so what I fellinto was something that was sort
of interested similar to what Ihad been doing with medicine in
terms of like research andmultiple whatever, I hold on to
movie market research. So Itested with these for a living.
So I did that for like, 18 yearsuntil the point where I had kind
of a what is it all about sortof moments? And I was like,
Look, I test all these shittymovies. I know I can make a

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shitty good movie or, you know,so I decided I was gonna do it.
And you know, One of the thingsthat of this movie as well, you
know, me i allegedly, you know,mortgage and already paid off to
make this 1BR movie and we'retalking about today. So that's,
that's my origin story and I'msticking by it.

Wow. mortgaged the house against it, huh?

sometimes you gotta believe in yourself you bet on
yourself. It's what it is. Butthe script the script, it's a
really good script. And so like,you know, the reason we got that
script is that Allard Cantor andJarrod Murray, who are also
producers in the film, they'realso David Marmor, who's a
writer, director of a fantasticwriter, director, there his
managers, and it just turns outthat Allard went to high school

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with my ex wife. And you know,before we were an ex, ex wife,
whatever, and we went up onthose douchebag lunches so you
have you talked about yourselfand what you're working on and,
and he's like, ah, you know, Igot to script I'm gonna send
you. I'm gonna send you thisscript Tragedy Girl, and we'll
send you 1BR. And like sixmonths later, I haven't read the
script. The six months later,into my defense, I was working

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on something, we're almost readyto go on it and it fell apart.
And I was like, What the fuck? Igotta find something else. I'm
sorry. Can I curse on thisthing? Or is it okay? Go ahead.
Okay. All right. So sorry.
Anyway, so long short, though, Ifound that I went back and I
started reading all the scriptsI was supposed to catch up on
and tragedy girls was like ahorror comedy. I told them like,
look, it's a great script, but Iwill never do a horror comedy.

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It's too hard to make both theaudiences happy, because I've
learned that from testingthings, you know, and they're
like, Well, we already finishedfilming that last week. And I
was like, Well, what the fuck doI know? So, but I love one
viewer that would David Marmorand him and myself and my, my
producing partner, ShaneVorster. We're kindred spirits.
He's super intelligent. I mean,just super bright guy. And

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there's a very affable person,like he's a good person. And we
were really in this as he was afirst time writing director, we
were first time producers. Andwe were literally in it for the
long haul. Because, you know, wegot the script in 2017. And like
the spring, actually gave us aNaomi Naomi right away back.
Because I was like, Do you thinklike, is this good? You know, I

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think there's a part for you.
It's not like the main but youknow, it's something that she
was like, Yeah, this is a goodscript. Like, she always says
that her dad's an architect, andyou like, Wow, man, it's nice to
have good bones like that. I gotlike a piece of property, you
know, whatever. So it did. And,like, come December 2017. We
were shooting it. So that's howwe got involved with it.

Wow. And then it, it came out on Netflix, very
early in the pandemic. Iremember, it was one of those
ones that like early pandemic,it was 1BR and Host a lot. We're
getting talked about a lot. Whatwas that kind of whirlwind
experience of

what specifically happened was that, okay, Netflix
rejected us twice. I'm justgonna say that, okay. And we
were just, you know, beggingthem. And when we came out, in
April 2020, we came out on Tbought, like, on like, all the
different platforms and stuff.
And it did incredibly well.

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Like, I mean, it was like,number like, you know, two or
three, I think three on aniTunes like car and everyone was
like losing movie about like,there's like, you know, Naomi
Grossman's a recognizableperson. So it was Taylor
Nichols, and some of them butlike, by and large, no one would
recognize the person on theposter, for example, because
it's her first movie, right forhis narrative feature. And so it

(28:21):
did really well. And crazily, soto the point that we went back
to Netflix are like, wow, like,I would have done the numbers
and they're like, alright, we'lltake you, we'll give you no
money. But we'll take Thank you.
So, so we were, you know, overthe moon, and we knew basically
in May, that they were going totake us in, in August of 2020.
And so we literally like Naomiand I, and some other cast

(28:45):
mates, like we had nothing todo, right, like, all summer
long. And we knew we were comingout in England and places like
that. So we're just like,everyday got up of like, I'm
gonna sell 100 copies of thismovie, but my force of will I'm
gonna do it. So I just like,started, like, you know,
approaching different reviewerswho hadn't seen the movie, for
example, I look on RottenTomatoes. And I looked for like,

(29:07):
a Pete the ship movie. And I'mlike, Who gave out a good
review? All right, if they likethat, they're certainly going
to, like, approach people and belike, Hey, I'm just doing a post
mortem about our movie andseeing how our Republicans did.
And did you send you the movie?
Did he send you the movie? Andthey're like, no, they didn't
send me the movie. Let me writethat wrong. Let me send you the

(29:27):
movie, right. Like watch themovie. And so we keep on pumping
out reviews, even after we cameout. And often because now we're
coming out England, differentplaces. It's always that
awareness. Like, you know, wetalk about a lifespan of a
movie, right? And what peopledon't realize specifically, is
that about 40% That is actuallythe pre production, the actual,

(29:47):
like production and then postproduction, right? But the other
60% is marketing the film, rightand people don't realize that
and people don't keep on likeputting new things up on social
media or whatever it is. Isn'tthat the weekend? So we did
that. And by the time we cameout on, you know, Netflix, the
very first day, we were onNetflix, we were in their top

(30:08):
five. And I was like, I don'tknow, like 73 million
households. Thankfully, there's2.11 people in each household,
right? There's 192 millionpeople that Netflix knows it
has. That's not they're notfeeling it from them, right?
Like, that's what they know. Soit's like crazy, like, right?
Like, you would never think thatlike that you could get to that

(30:31):
many people, but you can have190 million people have access
to Netflix. And so we figuredout that, like, you know,
hitting the top five is likerarefied air, you just don't do
it, like for a small film likeours. And not only do we do it,
well, we were in the top fiveand got to number one, over
eight days, we were basically inthe top five, number one
eventually. And it was like thecraziest thing, like, I mean, I

(30:53):
literally felt like we had like,just gotten to the top of Mount
Rushmore, or whatever it isKilimanjaro. And I was just
like, I cried, because I waslike, we be talking all our
plan. We did. Like he worked.
Like we went on a food festivalrun, in addition to that, to
build awareness of the film. Butthese are things that people
like don't really realize, ifyou do have a film that like,
you know, tests very well, it'sempty in quotation marks right

(31:15):
now. You know, when you test amovie, it scores this way.
Excellent. Very good, good,fair, poor. Well, we did like
one of the test screenings of itthat were just like 20 people,
and we do a focus group forthem. And then we called our
data, you learned a lot of stufffrom it. And we learned that we
had very little rejection in thefilm. And people would rate it
like very good, not excellent,because we couldn't, we couldn't

(31:35):
afford to be excellent, frankly.
But it was it was very good. Sowe knew we didn't have a lot of
rejection. So that wasfantastic. And so we knew when
it came on to Netflix, it coulddo well if we had enough
awareness. And that's the toughpart of it is like rising above
sort of that noise becausethere's like so many horror
movies that come out. I mean,how many like killer shark
killer clown? Killer Clown sharkmovies are there? Right? So

(31:59):
many?

What do you mean, you couldn't afford to be
higher on Rotten Tomatoes? Likeyou don't to buy it?

No, no, no, but I'm saying this. Like, we couldn't
afford to be better. Like we hadmore money. Maybe we could have
more time. Make a better film,for example. So that's what I
mean. Like we we shot for 15days. We went back and did four
days of reshoots. Actually, weshot in 2017, December, and then
we couldn't get the band backtogether. And so to speak, Naomi
Grossman, especially busy, shehad been nominated for an Emmy,

(32:29):
when we had to actually get herthe only week we could do it was
the week of the Emmys. Youshould get to go to a gifting
speed and get you know, what's atrip to Barbados.

This is what he does. By the way, this is what
he does. He picks the mostimportant day, like the day my
team is going to win the WorldCup, and then ropes me into a
podcast. He picks the day thatI'm going to be gifted like, you
know, trips to Barbados, and hemakes me come you know, shoot
his

shooting. Let's share the little film. Yeah,

that's the other thing he does. He has a quota
like literally a number of cursewords that he has to meet by the
end of any podcast in order toact like adequately upset my
mom. religiously. Yeah, yeah. So

he thinks I can do better he thinks I can be better
and the sad truth is I can't I'mjust what I am

she's an englisg teacher she believes in you Alok

whatever believe in somebody that didn't never gonna
fulfill that belief

in your in your defense. I'm usually the
one that swearing most of thepodcasts so

he's the reason we click that explicit
when we publish. It's alwaysCorreia

there was one or two times where we almost got
to the end of the episode andthere was just like something
that set me off I just wentfuckers or something. Jay was
like shit, we gotta click thatbox.

Oh, I always do it anyway. I don't even count

actually got flagged just yesterday, I posted
anymorea little you know, Argentine of
course of the thing on YouTube.
And it was really just a quicklike, tick tock of me kind of
looking lecherous with Messi, ofcourse. You know, the star, the

(34:14):
Argentine team. And there arepeople literally commenting like
there are children on this app.
Like, like, over a woman likekind of like salivating over a
soccer player? Like, it's notporn, calm down.

Anyway, there are worse things out there.

There's way worse things on YouTube,
especially Come on.

Do you think it was the one thing I was put
on our radar by Devin Burrows,who was the composer for The
Wretched and he had because whenwe asked him what, you know,
what excites him about what'scoming out now. And he had
mentioned the film and inparticular the score, and that's

(34:55):
what put it on our radar. Andthis was when I FC which went to
did The Wretched was puttingeverything up to drive ins and
on pay per view because of thepandemic. Do you think that the
pandemic and people, you know,basically being locked up and
quarantined had anything to dowith how popular not just your
guys movie but in Netflix ingeneral? I mean, since they were

(35:18):
locked up, there's nothing to dobut what street? I know
streaming services went throughthe through the roof. How much
do you think that that actuallyhelped your guys' movie get to
number one?

I mean, a lot. I mean, I don't know. Alok is
probably done this research.
That's the other thing. He doesa ton of research. He's amazing
at it. He really, you know, I'llsing his praises. There at one
point, I remember him callingand saying, Hey, will you buy
the, you know, it was like 11o'clock at night. He's like,

(35:47):
Hey, can you quick buy the movieon iTunes? And I'm like, okay,
like, he's like, I'll pay youback on Venmo you five bucks
down. Like, okay. Literally, Histhing was, he knew that, like,
at midnight on that night is thenight that it like rolls over.
And they, you know, the horrorcharts on iTunes, you know,

(36:07):
repopulate or whatever it is.
And, and he if he could just getenough people to, like buy the
movie all at once, like withinthe hour, like maybe he could,
you know, play the systemsomehow. And he did. Like, I
don't know if that was the well,he made number one.

But we didn't, we went to number two. But like,
the thing was, I was just tryingto I wanted to try and
experiment. I was like, look forfive that we were down to $5 to
like, do whatever that's likefor $5. I'm willing to spend
like $200 to see if it actuallybumps us like because we were
something went down in price. Wewere like at number like five or

(36:48):
something like that. But we wereable to get like number two or
three or something because like,I don't know, 40 people, like
bought it all at once. Just likeright before midnight, and like
these coats has already gone tobed at three o'clock in the
morning. I just wanted toexperiment. And so yeah, so we
did it. Like they didn't moveback. And they got that on the
movie, you might not you know,but anyway, I do stupid shit
like that all the time, just tokind of like see what's what.

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Yeah, it was an interestingthing. What was the initial
question? Sorry, you were sayingI was gonna answer but I forget
what it was it?

No did the pandemic probably. It's so meta,
like, we're all home. We're allstreaming, why not stream a
movie about a woman trapped athome. Like, and

also, you can't trust your neighbors. Like,
that's the whole thing. Likethere's a responsibility to not
put a mask up and do differentthings. And so this was very
meta, we couldn't have plannedthat the pandemic was going on.
And this would be like what itwas, but it actually did become
something more than it was forfor just that reason, you know,
so that's, that's actually, Ithink, to your point, it is the

(37:57):
the Not only were the streamingservices like doing go off auto
business, as they call it herein the town or whatever. But
they were they were, you know,we they were lacking content to
which may have been one of thereasons they said all right,
let's take a chance on yourkids, you know, and again, hey,
you know, money. But so that's Iwas very, I think it was very,

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that was very much the case toalso say about the wretched the
Pierce brothers who are buddies,we actually came out we
premiered both premiered atFantasia Fest in Montreal, and
we took our whole cast up thereand they brought their people
and so we were like no mono monothe entire time and we were just
like you know, first we werejust like an Eric competition or

(38:42):
their friends were like friendswe can't we became friends we
became friends and likeliterally just saw another movie
by their producer here at beyondfest here in LA, which was Feed
Me just some fantastic filmsabout cannibalism that you know,
it's like flicked up like thatmovie is great. It's great you
got to watch it if you like youknow if you want to say
something really cool, thoughidentity that produced it also

(39:03):
did wretched and the Piercebrothers have moved on to
amazingly greener pastures, andthat they're doing a film for
Screen Gems. And who were theguys that wrote? Black Phone and
Sinister

They're Scott Derrickson and Robert Cargill

Robert Cargill loves our movie do by the way,
which I'm fanboy get up here ina really nice Twitter thing
about that, but they're doingthey're producing their new
movie that screen Jim's puttingout and so much bigger budget
and the wretched was so bigkudos for that. So that's the

(39:43):
reason we all became friends andthen that maybe the reason that
the the the composer mentionedmentioned us it's a way bringing
it full circle.

It probably was just, I don't think any
filmmaker should ever beconsidered competition. I think
everybody should be part versusa community, not a competition.
That's,

that's what we've learned. I mean, I have a four
and a half year old, right? Ihave a four and a half year old.
And I was trying to explain toher because we had gone to
Universal Studios on on Thursdaynight, and she saw the jaws
thing and she's we've been therelike eight times this year, we
have a path. And I was trying toexplain to her, we watched
Goonies, and then we watchGremlins, and I was trying to
explain to her well, there's aguy, Steven Spielberg, who

(40:25):
helped these people along andall these people guide me to
Star Wars. They're best friends.
And then he made a movie calledradiant love. I don't tell him
like these the 70s they had thiswhole motto or whatever, where
these are John Millia. Spielbergand Luca literally exchange
points on three of their moviesjust like sight unseen, like
they look, you have Jaws comingout. I'm gonna give you a point.
You know, Star Wars coming out.

(40:48):
I'm gonna give you a point youhave some shitty surfing movie.
I'm really good. Like, ran awaylike a bandit. Fucking like
money. And like Spielberg andLucas were legless. Look at the
bigger because they did a roundrobin. Look at the left holding
the bag really? Big. So but butyeah, you're right. You're
right. We should all help eachother. That's the main thing.
Yeah.

But it's such a small community, too. I mean,
we're talking about all thesedifferent connections. And then
after we interviewed Devin, heended up his score was put out
by Ship to Shore, which is mybuddy, Justin. So I mean, it's
it's small worlds all over.
Which, which is awesome. Andthen you just, I meant I'm
loving hearing the grasp.

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Because this is a grassrootscampaign of you guys getting
this movie out. I mean, even youguys coming out on the podcast
today, you reached out to us,because you guys are gonna be
doing another big push to evenmore ao V. D, and streaming
services. Soon, too, right?
Yeah, we're

gonna be on. So as of January one, we are leaving
We're big fans of Tubi Yeah,Netflix for now. But I have a
suspicion we'll be back. Theytook us off for six months
before and then brought us backon and then the numbers were
higher and whatever, I get themethod to their madness, but
that's okay. The main thing isthat we're on Shudder at
present, we're going to be onJanuary one, we are launching on

(42:04):
Peacock, Tubi, three V, flex,Roku TV, Pluto TV. And then zumo
I want to say that I thinkwe love Tubi
that's all of them. Just one,but but it's gonna be on a bunch
of different ones. And I'll saythat for independent filmmakers,
these platforms for the way wemake our money. I gotta admit,
we didn't make ship fromNetflix, I'm just gonna tell the

(42:27):
truth. But for these lightplatforms, if you watch the
We have so many movies on it. Imean, so here's the thing, I was
whole movie, you get paid off ofbasically how many commercials
there are. And I'll say this,too. The commercials are very
short to the point that youcan't even go pee, and then come
back. And you'll you'll havemissed the movie. Like you'll
have to like rewind the movie,because they're they're that

(42:49):
short. There's, there's therethey come in, you know, fairly
frequently, depending on theplatform. But the most that we
get paid on if you can likereally watch these two platforms
having a meeting with the to beoriginal. It's like, you know, a
in particular, Tubi. We wouldreally appreciate it. Thank you.

(43:15):
year ago, something like thisduring the pandemic. And I tried
to scroll. Like I had Apple TV.
I was scrolling through to be anhour and 25 minutes later, I got
to the end of the horror moviesection. And I can't tell you
how many like shark movies foundmovies. Clown shark movies, like
I said before, they're literallyclown shark movies. Like there's
so many movies on there. And thewoman who was I was meeting with

(43:37):
was just so impressed that hadgone through the whole thing.
I've never met somebody whoactually girl through the whole
thing will you do? Well, forcertain point it became a
mission because I was likescrolling and scrolling and
scrolling. I'm like, What isthis? I'm doing this an hour.
When can this end? I gotta getto the end. Doesn't my quest
sorry, though.

I think too deep cuts to buddy. Justin
LaLiberty with Vinegar Syndromeposted about how he found a
movie on there and it opened upwith this is a VHS promo for a
movie, a VHS screener. They juststraight rip the VHS which is
fun. I respect the shit.

It's it's ballsy. Yeah. So we we kind of
have this we love movies that dowhat we say becomes a different
movie. And that's kind of what1BR does. For me not knowing
much going into it. It is notthe movie I expected it to be I
expect it to be kind of like asingular stocking kind of almost
like a like a you know, guyliving in the walls kind of

(44:38):
thing. And it is not that movie.
It's it's more visceral, it'smore brutal and it's more
cerebral. And also, it leavesitself open very much to a
sequel or not just a sequel, butto a bigger universe at the end.
And you guys have a sequel inthe works correct?

We do, Naomi Do you want to say something about it

mean, it's so under wraps, you know, a look
like to Well, I don't want tosteal one of his curse words
from him, but he likes to,again, Mom, I'm using quotes. So
don't think that I'm sayingthese are not my words, but he
likes to JJ Abrams the shit outof everything. So he won't even

(45:22):
tell me I haven't even read it.
All I know is Genesis back. Backand she's looking for love. No,
I don't know, I know. You know,let's face it. She's a widow. So

I don't know how much we want to give away. I
mean, do we want to give away wecan give away? We know

that right?
We've seen the movie. So we knowthat. Although you're right,
just because you die in a horrormovie. You can't kill a good
horror movie like, No, you'reright, we could see him in a
prequel we could see him as a,as a drunken apparition. There's
a million ways to go, we cansee. But also jammas could also
I mean, there's a lot of I knownothing.

I'll say this, I'll say this. So the first one was
alien. The second one is aliens.
Like, it's definitely like abigger, sort of look into that
universe and things you thoughtwere one way could be a little
turned a wet rat turned aroundin certain regards. It's, it's a
fantastic script, like I read itthree times. And then we just
had a couple of notes and andgive it back to Marmor, our
brilliant writer, director. Andhe just like, he's gonna, we're

(46:27):
getting something on the 23rd,which is this week, December 23.
So, you know, hopefully, afterthis is airing, you'll you'll it
will be passed that. And wealready have the script in our
hand. We're already budgetingwe're already like figuring
stuff out. But it's gonna beit's gonna be super cool. It's
gonna be, like I said, biggeruniverse, much bigger budget, in
comparison to the first one,which was like, you know, sag

(46:51):
ultra low budget film, this isgonna put us into a couple of
categories above that. But yeah,like, look, I mean, the other
thing we're actually thinkingabout tonight is kind of a first
I haven't really mentioned thisany other place is definitely a
theatrical run for it. Awesome.
We, we think that it, you know,everyone was like, terrified,

(47:15):
and you did so well, can't youdo this? Well, like, terrifying,
do amazing following. Theydidn't do any fucking like,
basically marketing for thatmovie. But just on the strength
of how well it had done, like inthe, you know, streaming
platforms and stuff, they wasable to have this amazing. I
mean, I think it's almost $13million now or something like

(47:36):
that. And, you know, frankly,there's not enough studio
content for the theaters rightnow. Like, they don't have 52
weeks of content. And so wereally feel like, you know, a
1BR or something that's had alot of exposure and a lot of
like, sort of like notorietyand, you know, in a nice,
respectful way, can actually dofairly well, hopefully, you

(47:57):
know, in that in that context,and you know, pay off pay off
the bigger budget for moneygrubbing producers. And we shall
see, we shall see,

hopefully don't have to mortgage the house
again for it, right. No, that'snot

happening again.
That makes that may or may notbe divorced. I mean, whatever.
It's all good. I have a lovelyfour year old daughter. She's
amazing. So it's ammicable.
That's the good news. It'sammicable. She's not taking me
for like dental cleaners. Butlet's go look. What I've done it

(48:33):
any differently. No, I wouldn'thave done anything differently.
Fucking producers and directorsin the indie space. It's like
the wild wild west. Sometimesyou just gotta put your balls on
the table and say, I'm gonna dothis and you do it. And then it
turns out, okay. So anyway,that's it. Yeah.

And did you drop hints on the title? Because
we were talking earlier aboutwhat the title could be, you
know, cracking the is it goingto be 2BR?

It's not 2BR

Jonathan Corre (48:59):
The Second Story

Everyone's great.
But I will tell you a littlesomething. I will say this, the
title 1BR was very purposeful,and so much is that on certain
platforms, you will be numbersfirst, and then alphabet after
that. And so 1BR is typicallylike, for example, peacock does
it this way. And peacock alsoputs your Rotten Tomatoes score

(49:24):
up there too, right? So if youhave a 1BR and is 88 percent
Certified Fresh, we had a pub,we had a publicist at one point
and told us like, ah, horror, itdoesn't really matter what the
fucking score is. And we'relike, Are you out of your mind?
Like, you know, it mattersbecause not only because, you
know, these new platforms havethat up there. But like for

(49:48):
Netflix, for example, they havedifferent categories, right?
They have like 40 differentcategories. I looked at this
every morning right to see howmany categories we are
propagating. That's it right?
And one of them is criticallyacclaimed movies, critically
acclaimed thrillers, criticallyacclaimed, independent films,
whatever. So you have anothercategory that you will be in,

(50:09):
because you've done well onRotten Tomatoes. So if anybody
ever tells anybody that RottenTomatoes doesn't matter, they're
a moron.

I mean, there are people I know who, who
actually seek out the poorlyrated movies, just because, I
mean, I'm one of those I lovebad movies, but I also love good
movies. So it's, yeah, I havinga high Rotten Tomato score is

But here's the here's the thing. It doesn't
never going to hurt you.
hurt you if your movie isskirting the line between two
genres, right? So they may beright with horror movies. Like I
say, people like the shittymovies, or they like they seek
these things out. Right? But ifyou have a psychological
thriller with elements ofhorror, right, and it splits two

(50:53):
lines, then you have a differentaudience who's going to look at
it and be like, Well, what'sthis about? It doesn't really
start anybody I know, like, Iknow their face, but I don't
know them by their name. So whatoh, 88% Oh, okay. That's a good
chance, I'll spend four bucks,or, you know, whatever it is. So
that's the mentality that needsto be there. And I don't think
sadly, a lot of filmmakers,filmmakers, journalists have

(51:15):
their distributors who may notbe leading them down, leading
them down the right right path.
And you have to like stand yourground, like as filmmakers is
with creatives, like you have tobe like, no, no, like, I used to
fucking test movies for 18years. I fucking know what this
means. So fuck you with this youknow? Fuck you playing fucking
too much. I'm sorry Naomi's mom.
To

some of these will go on these counters the
next one alone so

no, Naomi I would be I would regret if I
didn't bring up your iconic roleas Pepper on American Horror
Story because first of all Imean Freaks was my gateway
horror as a kid. So when youshowed up in season two as as
pepper, the Pinhead ah, wasimmediately love and you're you
were one of the first charactersto actually come back in the

(52:05):
show. And so now you've been inasylum freak show. And now you
even had your own story forstories, right?

Yeah, I, um, you may have missed me and
And it's such a great legacylegacy character. How willing
apocalypse. I was. Peopleactually were like, Oh, it was
so nice to see you playingyourself. I was like, I sound a
virgin. Like, that's, that's Iwas still a character. I was
like, but I was a Satanist. Yes.
Actually, I was. I rememberpreparing for that role. On a

(52:33):
floaty toy, reading the SatanicBible in my pool, you know,
neighbors walking by like,what's happening? Like? I'm not
to be confused when when theyrecognize me in 1BR during the
pandemic, and they were like, ohmy god, she lives next door. We

(52:54):
were already afraid enough ofare you to come back as Pepper
again? I mean, you've alreadyour neighbors. But ya know, so
indeed, I was indeed the firstcrossover character of from
Freak show. From asylum to freakshow. But then yes, came back in
in Apocalypse. And then yes, instories as well. That's awesome.

(53:23):
done it a few times. Like,I mean, yeah. Don't get me
wrong. I'm enjoying having hair.
I'm actually very thankful thatthis is not a video today
because I'm sporting some reallydumb looking Princess Leia.
Little hairdo now, but

Nah it's cute.
Don't worry about it.

Um, I mean, it was an early morning. Like I
said, the game was at like,seven in the morning here in LA.
But uh, yeah, we, um, oh, Ididn't know. Listen, if there's
anything I've learned. It's justhair. Like on any moment, all
you got to do is say shave herhead. And I'll say how short

(54:05):
like, let's do this. You knowwhat I mean? Like, of course,
and but people always say that,would you be willing to come
back like, I need I want to paymy mortgage as much as anyone.
So yeah,

of course.
And, and I relate to the satanicbook. I brought a copy of
Satanic Feminism in the 1800swith me on the road. So I was
like, in the hotel in Texasreading that, and I definitely
got of looks

Awesome choice.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. In Texas, noless. That's great. Yeah.

Well, I'll say something about that, actually,
in a weird way. So I'm workingon a project with Peter Polk,
who's our executive producer of1BR there's also Ty West's
producer. And he did like youknow, X for example, and Pearl
this year and like all Ty Weststuff, and we're working on like
a TV show together with EduardoSanchez, who did like Blair

(54:58):
Witch, for example. So, Eduardotells us like, and we are
working with another person wecan't mentioned. But the point
though, Eduardo tells us, Hey,I'm coming into town. I'm doing
an episode of This AmericanHorror Stories. And I'm coming
into town this week, let's let'smeet up, let's get some drinks
and tacos or whatever the fuckwe're gonna do LA style. And

(55:20):
then Naomi comes to me, andshe's like, you know, just
between you and me. Book thisthing. I can't talk about it.
And it's this American HorrorStories. And I'm like, What are
you shooting this becauseEdwardos coming in. And it
turned out he was directing herepisode. Oh, she plays Rude Ruth
or whatever. That's a characterthat she plays in the episode.
And so we all went out to tacostogether. And then we went back

(55:43):
to Naomi's house in a pool whereshe reads The Satanic Verses or
whatever, we went swimming. Andwe like, you know, had some, you
know, whatever fun, you know,adibles are legal here.

What does that mean? Whatever fun.

I mean, we drink some stuff. And we drank the
beer. And we have

Naomi's mom is listening. Careful

Someone ate an Edible, and it wasn't Naomi. But
anyway, long story short, theygot to talk to each other
because they don't ever no oneever knows when they're shooting
something like, never gonna talkto the director ahead of time or
whatever. And he was like, Look,you just gotta watch the
Cannibal Holocaust. Get readyfor this role. But watch this
movie. That's what he told her.
So,

you know, Alok is referring to the fact that
the show is so secretive and youknow, and it's true. And but
it's also true that the thatactors rarely, you know, we
usually get to meet the directorlike on the day, like five
minutes before he's callingaction. He's introducing himself

(56:49):
so it's very rare to have thatkind of special one on one time
to you know, sit and allegedlyhave some fun together, or
whatever.

That was the craziest thing is that like, I
literally just pieced ittogether. It's like you're
coming out here. Naomi isactually shooting this show. I
think that they're doing thesame show.

Put it together Colombo style.

That's what I did.
I was like

alright, cool. Well, thank you for
joining us today. Especiallyafter your after your your big
win in the World Cup

Yeah Congrats, Argentina!

Thank you,

Bob. Bamos Argentina.

sequel to 1BR You say you're shooting this
coming summer. So when do youexpect the street like early
next year?

Well, it's spring or late spring, or we're
thinking at this point, let'ssee. I would love to bring it
out in October if we can getfinished in time, which I think
is a pretty aggressive schedule.
But we have more money thistime. So we have more people
working on it more full time.
And so it's not like you know,who was before we like you know,
we don't have money, it takes alot of time. If you have money,

(58:00):
it's quicker. But I'd like tobring it up then. Or in January
of 2024 We'll see what makessense we don't want to like you
know, under undercooked thisthing we want to make it so it's
like everything you know, whoshould be and you know, there
could be other ones coming inaddition, so that that

(58:23):
particular brand

again, it leaves itself open to a whole
universe. So I mean, I can seelike you said JJ Abrams the shit
out of it, I can see aCloverfield thing happening
where you go to different partsin the universe. So

I mean, look, you can go to different countries if
you wanted to,

with, with how it ends. That's not just a very
LA it's a very LA thing. The howwith the ending in the in the
building owners and stuff, youknow, you see that a lot
definitely renting in thevalley. That definitely brought
back a lot of like, I've been tothat showing I've been to that
open house I've been to I knowthat building.

Everyone who's lived in LA has lived in that
apartment complex. Like planes,stucco, shitty, whatever.
But no one was that friendly.

No one is that friendly! No one is that
friendly in LAthat was a huge red flag for me
in the beginning. I was like,none of us are that friendly in
LA

I mean, the point the funny thing is when you look
at if you really look at howunfriendly people are on LA, it
does set up all kinds of really,you know,

thanks for joining us and we will keep an
eye out for that. Where canpeople find you on the socials
if they want to keep up eitherfor the latest 1BR news or the
latest in what you guys aredoing.

I at NaomiWGrossman across all
platforms. I think I still havemy blue checkmark. I don't know
I haven't checked.

You haven't paid for it

Elon hasn't taken it away by now. I didn't
pay the $8. So I just have tohope.

I think they have legacy people who had it
before. but there's like adisclaimer now saying it says
exactly the opposite of what itmeans. It says this has not been
vetted, which it has been vettedif your legacy but of course, I
don't know he's trying to getthe eight bucks from

Naomi Grossman (01:00:11):
you been vetted by the puppeteer. You know,
Elon, okay. Yeah.

James Jay Edwards (01:00:16):
How about you Alok

Alok Mishra (01:00:18):
1BR_film. We're mostly on Twitter, sadly, I
don't know if that's the bestidea sadly. We're so close to
getting to 5000 and get thatfucking blue checkmark. And now
I don't know. I don't know. Likeif I can pay for it now. And
there's no challenge to it. Butwe're there. We're, you know,
we're on Instagram or onFacebook. Facebook and Twitter

(01:00:41):
are kind of what we're mostlyon. Let's say if you watch a
movie and you liked the theplease tell your friends. I will
say this the other score whenyou're testing movies, for
example, that matters? Would youdefinitely recommend it for a
friend. And generally we findwith this movie, it's a
discovery movie people likedon't think it's they think it's
gonna be like, I don't know,something supernatural like
that. And turns out to besomething completely different.

(01:01:03):
And each actor kind of almostturns to some extent without
giving too much away. Andbecause of that, people tend
they like it. They love it in aweird way. And then they tell
their friends hopefully, andthat will would ask if you do
like it, please tell yourfriends. Please tweet about it.
Please mention on Facebook,please mention on social media,
it helps a little film like thiskind of like go to another
level. And like I said, if ifyou know the sequel is going to

(01:01:28):
come out hopefully this year, orvery beginning of next year. And
that enough people will havewatched it that will really
enjoy this equal play. That'sthat's our that's our idea. And
that's our

Jonathan Correia (01:01:38):
hope, and really watch it on Tubi right

Tubi and Freevee Tubi and Freevee Tubi and
Freevee but Tubi more thananything else because they pay
more

and watch watch the whole thing. Because
with well, you know,

here's the thing, here's what we know,
clandestinely, but, you know, wehave like kind of a 75%
retention rate. Really like 75%of people actually watch the
whole thing, allegedly. But wethink that they like it so much.
And they tell their friends thathopefully the second one will be
even more popular, hopefully,let's say Fingers crossed.

Word is. If they don't finish a movie, it's
because it's too scary. Have youguys seen that? That's
ridiculous. They say this is thescariest movie on Netflix. No
one can finish it. Oh, no,people turn it off because it
sucks. Well, you know,

there's a lot of things on Netflix that stuck.

Yeah, I know.
I just like to try it.

I mean, it's what it is, you know, it's so funny.
Like for this this movie thatlike was a no budget film that
had like we I don't think weeven talked about it'd be
horrible challenges that we hadmaking the film and stuff. You
know, we lost we lost our entirecast three days before we were
shooting. I don't know if youguys saw that I shared that
article. I forget if I sent itto you or not. Let me write an

(01:02:51):
article on a movie makermagazine about all the horrible
shit that went wrong with thisfilm. And one of them was we had
a fire. We had a Mulholland firethat happened. Right during pre
production. And we didn't knowif our production office had
burned down or not. And we werelike looking on Google Earth to
see if it had burned down. Butwe knew we were like right next

(01:03:12):
door to the veterans graveyard.
They would never let that burntwice like convinced on this
thing like that. They were likedumping a lot of water on it.
But but but and then that wasone thing and then like
literally we're the Monday we'reshooting on Thursday. We lose
our lead actress, the woman whowas posted play Sarah, actually
famous TV actress I cannotmention because of libel or some

(01:03:33):
bullshit. She made us hire herfriend or boyfriend I'm not sure
it's

Do we have time for this the story? Alok. We
were literally signing offgiving them

I was telling them a story

again, we've just come from a soccer game.

I was drinking.

Aleggedly had some whatever fun there.

And funny story.

It is I there may be some editing necessary
now.

We'll end with a story real quick. So we
basically lost all of our castour Sarach character or Brian
character, and our MS Stanhopecharacter. And what had what had
happened was that

not your Janis, but not

Janis lucking is awesome. Thank you to Taylor
Nichols. Nichols or you know,leader. The point that was that?
What happened at this TV actressthat dropped out, she made us

Actors just wanna work. That's why you know,
hire her quote unquote, likefriend, boyfriend. We don't know
what the fuck he was. He was onsome fucking CW vampire show
that we were like, well, if it'sgood enough for the shitty
vampire show, if hes good enoughfor the CW, it's good enough for
us to be fine, but he droppedout. And then we went to a bar
and hanging out to kind ofregroup and see what's going on.

(01:04:47):
And we got a call and then it'sDan and character. Her husband
had collapsed, rushed to thehospital. He was dead. And so
she was out too. And so nowwe're like, starting on
Thursday, and we're like, Whatthe fuck are we going to do here
now? And so we back EverythingI'm doing next Monday, and we
call Nicole Brighton, who wasreally David warmers first
choice to give him credit. Butwe were like this other TV

(01:05:10):
accurate. You put this in theblack right away. So we of
course we want her that longstory short. We got Nicole come
out. She got three hours torehearse with David Marmor. That
was it. And then back to Friday,we've moved everything a week
from Monday back to the burbs onMonday. And on the Friday
sitting there, we still don'thave Brian, we still don't have
Miss Stanhope. I get a bunch oflike, reels from like friends,

(01:05:34):
like, Oh, here's an olderactress you might like. So I
watch Susan Davis, who was themom in Wargames. I watched her
reel. And there's a number atthe end of it. And I call the
number thinking it's gonna bebasically you know, her agent or
manager. And it's not. It's ait's her. And I'm like, horribly
inappropriate, but I'm gonnapitch it a movie, and I'm gonna

(01:05:54):
pitch us. And so we did. And shewas like, Yes, I I've never done
a cult review before. Thissounds fantastic. At 930 in the
morning, sign up by 1130. Fastforward to the end of the day.
We're trying to sit therelooking worried about the Brian
character. We're trying to starton Monday, again, like I said,
and finally get a call. Wecalled our friends a Blumhouse.

(01:06:14):
And they were in places likethose who were helping the CIA's
and the WM ease of the world.
William Morris, stay open. Andfinally get a call, like 730 at
night. And it's it's Gersh. Andit's basically the guy gels
Maddie who plays Brian? He saysyes. And we're like, okay, you
got it. We got him. I thinkwe're going to start this movie,
Well, why didn't you call ustill now? He was driving down

(01:06:34):
from San Francisco. And he hadto pull over the side of the
road and read the read thescript on his phone. And he only
read his part. And he just saidyes. And I asked that Naomi, I
was like, Is this what happens?
And she was just like, Yeah, wejust read our parts. Sometimes
they make sure it's not a porn,or a snuff film. So that's how

(01:06:55):
it works. But he said yes. So wewere like over the moon. Anyway,
that'swhen you make when you ask
questions, like, Oh, would yoube willing? It's like, I'm
starving over here. Yeah.

One of my favorite interviews that we've
done was Charlie Clauser, whodid the music for the Saw
movies. And, and he saidsomething he said, Hey, if I'm
breathing, I'm doing these somemovies. Yeah, it was great.
Yeah. Okay. Well, thank youagain for joining us today.

Hope that last story wasn't too much. I'm
sorry.

Oh, you're you're good. You're good. Thank
you for joining us. Keep an eyeout for the sequel to 1BR coming
soon. Our theme song is byRestless Spirits. So check them
out. Our artwork is by ChrisFisher. So check him out. You
can find us on all the socialsat Eye On Horror or at
ihorror.com which is a site weall call home. And yes. Thanks

(01:07:52):
again for joining us and we willsee everybody again in two
weeks. So for me James JayEdwards.

Jacob Davidson (01:07:57):
I'm Jacob Davison

Jonathan Correia (01:07:58):
and I'm Jonathan Correia.

Alok Mishra

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