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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to
Eye On Horror, the official
podcast of eye horror.com thisis episode 142 otherwise known
as season eight. Episode Two.
I'm your host, James J Edwards,and with me, as always, is your
other host, Jacob Davison, howyou doing? Jacob?
Jacob Davidson (00:40):
Doing good, just
hanging tight. It's another
gloomy, rainy day, which isperfectly fitting for the
Valentine's Day season.
James Jay Edwards (00:47):
You guys
getting rain too. I'm getting a
lot of rain down here. Oh yeah,no, it's raining. This is the
most rain I can remember gettingin a while. Um, also with us, as
always, is your other otherhost, Jon Correia, how you doing
Correia?
Jonathan Correia (00:59):
doing great.
It's, you know, I like gloomyweather. It's an excuse to wear
sweatpants and sweatshirts andponchos all day. So, like, you
know, I'm, I'm sitting prettyhere.
James Jay Edwards (01:10):
You're not
dressed as a skeleton. Oh,
that's,
Jonathan Correia (01:12):
that's, that's
for the special occasions. You
know?
James Jay Edwards (01:16):
That's for
meeting Dan Stevens.
Jonathan Correia (01:18):
Well, the
issue is, I only have one
skeleton suit, and so if I wearit at home all the time, it's
bound to get chili on, stains onit. And you know, it's it's hard
to get that out. So, all right,
James Jay Edwards (01:31):
what's been
going on? You guys? I finally
saw and I feel like I'm totallybehind the times, even though it
just came out. I saw companion.
Yeah, nice. Oh my god, you guyswere 100% right? This is such an
amazing and here's the thing Ihave seen reviews that are
spoiling the best twist, sodon't
Jacob Davidson (01:50):
Yeah, no, even
the marketing, even the
marketing, spoiled it, which Ithought was insane.
James Jay Edwards (01:54):
Oh, it's
ridiculous. I'm like, okay,
because I went into itcompletely blind on your guys's.
I mean, I'd usually do thatanyway, but you guys made it,
you know, very clear to go intothis blind and the twist that
takes it from the first to thesecond act was, is the big one
that's and that's the one that'sbeing spoiled by all the
markets. Like, oh god, you guys,no, I'm just so glad I got to
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experience it without that beingspoiled. Because so much fun.
Jonathan Correia (02:19):
Which is,
which is really good, because
the director, writer, director,has even come out and said,
like, you know, I understand whythey had to do that for
marketing purposes and things ofthat nature, to let people know.
Because, like, that first teaserwas just so like, What the fuck
is this movie? Because after wesaw it at the beyond fest
screening, I re watched thatteaser, the one where it's just,
like, from the studio thatbrought you the notebook, and I
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was like, wow, they really doshow a shot from all the best
parts of the movie. But withoutcontext, you have no idea what
the fuck this movie is about.
It's great. And we did goLindsey and I went and saw it at
an AMC theater when it finallycame out, just to it's such.
It's good to revisit, because Iremember sitting there at the at
the beyond fest screening whichthe director shouted out, he's
(03:02):
like, yeah, there's never goingto be another screening of this
film like that, because thosepeople literally knew absolutely
nothing in the room. Waselectric, and Jacob and I attest
it was one of the best audiencesever.
James Jay Edwards (03:13):
You know, I I
had to beg for it wasn't
activated by my PR agency, butit was on their schedule. So I
went to the guy who handles thewho handles Warner, and I said,
Hey, can you get me a contact?
You had a Companion link? And hesaid, he's like, you know,
they've been telling us to letthem know if people ask. So yes,
I have that contact brief. Andthey sent it to me. And so I
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watched it at home, and it stillhad that effect. I was like, so
glad I didn't know anything butthe link I was given was good
for five views, and I watched ittwice.
Jonathan Correia (03:46):
Nice, right?
Because, when you because whenyou go back, you pick up on the
things, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (03:50):
yeah. That's
what I wanted to see. I want to
see how much of it wastelegraphed. But I didn't know
what I was looking for. Oh, myGod, he's so good. And
Jonathan Correia (03:59):
it's, it's
slightly spoilerly. But the
first time I watched it, I waslike, Oh, Jack Quaid is going
for his mom's title of rom comking, or whatever. Second
viewing, I was like, nope. I wascompletely wrong. That first
view, for that first half ofthat first viewing, man, like,
Boy was I it was there from thebeginning. Oh, my God. How did
you not I remember
James Jay Edwards (04:18):
you saying
after you saw it, you're like,
I'm just bummed that I'm notgoing to be able to be able to
see it again for like, threemonths. So I was like, I'm not
making that mistake. I'mwatching it
Jonathan Correia (04:25):
again. No,
it's, it's so good, it's so
funny. And, you know, I trulythink that, like, Sophie
Thatcher deserves awards forthat performance, like, Oh yeah,
and it's gonna get overlooked,you know? But because that's
what happened, although I don'tWell, I mean, The Substance is
doing a lot of heavy lifting forthe future of, like, horror
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nominations right now, but like,Sophie Thatcher is just a
revelation, and just what shedoes, and she talked about some
of the things that people areapplauding her for, and she's
like, I didn't even realize Iwas doing that. There's like,
little moments Where she haslittle twitches and stuff, or,
like, does little mouth. It'sjust, it's so good. And then
Lucas Gage was just phenomenal.
And it's so funny. Yeah,Companion is such it's such a
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fun movie.
Jacob Davidson (05:11):
And always cool
to see Harvey Gillen in horror
stuff. Like he was goodsupporting caster for this.
Yeah,
Jonathan Correia (05:19):
they were so
cute together.
Jacob Davidson (05:23):
Oh yeah, the
Halloween, the Halloween. Love
memory.
Jonathan Correia (05:27):
It's so funny.
You're stepping on my tail.
Yeah, go see Companion. It'syeah,
James Jay Edwards (05:34):
absolutely
go. Go see Companion. And maybe
we'll do a mini sode where wecan spoil stuff. Because, oh my
god, don't let anything bespoiled. And
Jacob Davidson (05:42):
speaking of rom
com horror, the Yeah, you know
what I'm going to talk about. Iknow where you're going. Oh, you
know where I'm going, but it'sValentine's season, so it was
the perfect time to release JoshRuben's Heart Eyes hard, which
is one of the best holidayslasher movies I've seen in some
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time. And it was just so muchfun because it does that kind of
horror genre mash up soperfectly, which, you know, of
course, is Michael Kennedy andChristopher Landon writing it,
and because they've got it downto a T, because it's a rom com,
but there's, it's a slashermovie too. Like it, like both
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work simultaneously. Like at thebeyond fest screening I was at,
Josh Ruben even said he hepitched it literally as
Sleepless in Seattle meetsFriday the 13 part six, Jason
lives, and that's what it is.
James Jay Edwards (06:37):
And the thing
that makes Heart Eyes work so
well is Josh Rubin understand,and the movie as a whole
understands exactly what it isabout both rom coms and slashers
that make them so ridiculous,and it leans so heavily into it.
So the movie itself is prettyridiculous, but you are watching
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basically a a hallmark romancewith a psycho killer. It is so
nuts. And I got to tell you,Mason Gooding, I kind of have a
thing for Mason. He, you know,he might be the new he might be
the new Jake Gyllenhaal, JamesMcAvoy for me,
Jacob Davidson (07:20):
which I was
gonna say amazing. Gooding and
Olivia Holtz had such incrediblechemistry as the romantic leads
that that's how they were ableto really pull off the rom com
elements, yes, but just havingthis mass killer trying to kill
them. And I do love the designof the killer too, like the
whole stitched up mask with theglow in the dark, night vision,
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literal, heart eyes.
James Jay Edwards (07:43):
The killer is
incredible. And the killer is
ruthless. I mean, this is notjust because it's part rom com.
This killer is brutal. It's not,you know, he doesn't pull
punches and, um, and he he has,like, a little crossbow, so
there's a little bit of Cupid inthere.
Jacob Davidson (07:58):
And he's got
like, and he's got the, like,
spiked machete
James Jay Edwards (08:03):
Heart Eyes
does not reinvent the wheel. It
knows exactly what it is aboutrom coms and slashers that that
people want to see. But the mashup is just so it does what it
sets out to do, which is it'sjust a completely fun
combination of these two genres.
And there's one scene that justhad me dying because Olivia
Holt's friend is like talking toher and she goes, this is one of
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the 10 Things I Hate About You.
It's like she basically stringstogether probably a dozen
romantic comedy titles in thisone paragraph of dialog that is
totally in context. And it justmakes you realize how
ridiculously names o thesemovies are,
Jacob Davidson (08:45):
yeah, and also,
I'm already calling it that I
you know, again, don't want tospoil but there was one
particular kill that iscertainly going to be up for
Fangoria kill of the year, andit was pretty impressive. That's
awesome. You know which one I'mtalking about. Oh,
Jonathan Correia (09:01):
yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I don't. I need to
see it. Oh
James Jay Edwards (09:03):
yeah, you
don't. Yeah, you Yeah. You do
need to see it. This is, this istotally you'll love it. It's
Jacob Davidson (09:09):
fun. Also always
cool to see Devon Sawa pop up in
James Jay Edwards (09:13):
saw was in
it. Devon Sawa and Jordana
Brewster talk about 90s teenhorror. You had your Final
Destination, meets The Faculty.
Yeah, it is,
Jonathan Correia (09:26):
I think you
mean Idle Hands, meets
James Jay Edwards (09:32):
The Faculty.
That's, that's
Jonathan Correia (09:33):
what my brain
does. No, he was good in Final
Destination as well. But IdleHands, that's God's here, you
know, speaking of romancecomedies, yeah, we're getting
romantic this episode. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (09:45):
I got another
one after this too. So yeah,
hell yeah, did you guys?
Jonathan Correia (09:50):
Did you guys
see Your Monster? No, I wanted
to. Though you're as inpossessive. Why? Oh, you are.
It's a romance. Comedy withMelissa Barrero, who's from the
the recent Scream movies, andAbigail, and it's about this,
this theater girl who who shehas cancer, and her boyfriend
(10:13):
breaks up with her while she'sgoing through chemo and surgery
and all that. So she's having areally rough breakup, and so she
moves into her mom's house inNew York during recovery, and
she ends up befriending herchildhood monster, like the
monster that's in the closet orunder the bed. And it's, it's a
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real cute. It's more it'sdefinitely leans way more into
romance comedy than it doeshorror. But it's adorable. It's
it's a good modern kind ofretelling of, like, Beauty and
the Beast that's self aware ofit. And the beast makeup is
really good. But there's alsothese really funny bits, because
he's supposed to be the monster,like in the closet or under the
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bed. So there's these greatlittle moments, like, when they
start, like, hanging outtogether all this stuff. She
goes, like, she's, like, talkingabout, like, the breakup and
going through all this shit. Andthen she's laying on her bed,
like this, talking up to theceiling. And then he's just
under the bed, like, half out,just like, going, Ah, he sounds
like a real limp dick fuck, youknow? And there's some, like,
really funny bits with that.
And, yeah, it's, it's, I mean,if you're looking for a real
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cute romance comedy that has,you know, a bit of monsters,
kills and stuff in it, YourMonster. It's, I think it's
streaming on max right now, but,yeah, it was really good. And,
you know, it's, it's a goodround up to last year's monster
fucker trilogy with LisaFrankenstein and Nosferatu. You
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know,
James Jay Edwards (11:42):
cool. Also,
speaking of Valentine's Day,
either you guys see, Love Hurts.
No, no. It's not reallyValentines, but they're billing
it as Valentines. And it's notreally horror, it's like an
action comedy, but it has Ke HuyQuan from Everything Everywhere
All at Once, and and the IndianaJones movies, and also Ariana
(12:03):
DeBose is in it. And thecommercials are hilarious
because it's Oscar winner, KeHuy Quan, Oscar winner Ariana
DeBose, Super Bowl championMarshawn Lynch. Marshawn Lynch,
he plays one of the the wholething is like, Ke Huy Quan is a
he's a realtor who is trying toleave his professional assassin
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life behind, and but it'scatching up to him again. And
Marshawn Lynch plays one of the,one of the hit men that are kind
of after him, I guess my issue.
It's only 83 minutes long, andyou'll never hear me say this.
Never hear me say this. But Ithink it needs to be longer,
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because there's the setup is alldone through it kind of drops
you right into the action, andthe setup is kind of done
through exposition andflashbacks. And I think that
they could have given a littlemore of that. Plus there are so
many colorful characters, likeMarshawn Lynch's character is
one of them, but there's alsoanother who's this hit man who's
also like a poet. There are justso many colorful characters, and
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I think they could do more withand they don't. But as far as an
action movie, it's some of thebest fight choreography I've
seen in a very long time, a verylong time like it is, it's sort
of kung fu movie, but it's, it'sa lot of the director is
Jonathan Eusebio, and they'vedone stunts for, you know, stunt
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actually, stunts for the FallGuys, stunts for John Wick. I
mean, it's, you know, ViolentNight, Birds of Prey. I mean, it
stunts for, like, you know,Marvel movies, Black Panther,
Dead Pool 2. So, um, it lookslike they're from the same from
the same school as, as, like,the Bullet Train type of a
thing. And Ke Huy Quan
Jonathan Correia (13:52):
also was a
stunt coordinator and stunt man
for years. He famously was thecoordinator on the original
X-Men movie, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (13:59):
you can, you
can tell that he is, that he's
got some martial arts trainingand some stunt work too, because
he's well, even in everything,Everything Everywhere All At
Once. That's hard to say, evenin that he got the he got the
flex his muscles a little
Jacob Davidson (14:14):
Oh yeah, no, he
got some good fights in there.
Yeah.
James Jay Edwards (14:17):
It is as an
action movie. It's awesome as a
story, I kind of wanted a littlemore. But Love Hurts is, I mean,
there's always enough time forLove Hurts because it is, you
know, it's 83 minutes. Oh, wow,that's that's pretty lean. And
like I said, you know, you'llnever hear me say that. But I
wanted a little more of it. Iwanted about 20 more minutes of
exposition and fleshing out someof the fun characters. Another
Jonathan Correia (14:41):
recent film
that came out. I don't know, did
you guys see Steven SoderberghPresence?
James Jay Edwards (14:47):
Yeah, I wish
I just
Jonathan Correia (14:48):
saw it
yesterday. Ooh. So no spoiling
for Jay. Yeah, they
James Jay Edwards (14:51):
didn't screen
it for us, which is weird,
because Neon is kind of weirdabout that. But, um, but yeah,
we didn't get a screening, and Ijust haven't had a chance. You
may have noticed. That weskipped an episode. We I haven't
had a chance to go to a theaterbecause I've been doing 15 hours
a day of curling. So, yeah, talkto me about curling Correia
Jonathan Correia (15:09):
after, after
we're done recording happy to
happy
Jacob Davidson (15:12):
to look. We
should write a horror movie
about curling, Hearts Eyes, butcurling, hey,
James Jay Edwards (15:17):
yeah, Hardy,
you stab with a broom and throw
a stone. Yeah? Well, I mean,there
Jonathan Correia (15:23):
was that
hockey scene in running scared,
where came out hard with that.
I'll have to add that to thelist. Also
Jacob Davidson (15:30):
that scene in
Santa's Slay, where Goldberg, as
the satanic Santa, does hellcurling.
Jonathan Correia (15:39):
That's right,
yeah. Oh man. Santa's Slay has
one of the greatest openingsever, where it's just yeah, it's
just Santa Claus crashing adinner that has, what is it?
Fran Drescher, James con, Jamescon, Chris Catan, Fran drasher,
and just like slaughterseverybody, just like comes
through, he lights Frandrescher's hair on fire, which
is sacrificial in my eyes. Butanyways, Presence, yes, we ADHD
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hard there. Steven Soderbergh'sHaunted Ghost House story, and I
loved it. The whole movie isfrom the perspective of the
presence, and you get to seethis family that's like any good
ghost or haunted house story.
The main story is a brokenfamily or a broken individual.
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And this family is prettyfucking broken, and there's some
really interesting, cool thingsthe camera work in. It is
obviously Soderberg just goingfucking nuts and just being
like, I'm this presence, and nowyou are seeing it from my
perspective. So there's a lot ofreally cool bits where, like
people are just out, likethey're sitting on the porch,
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but the presence can't gooutside, so it's watching
through the windows. It's veryvoyeuristic. And great
performances, like Lucy Liu isjust, you never know what's
going on with her. It's, it's,yeah, it's great, yeah.
Jacob Davidson (17:03):
And I do love
the effects with because the
ghost sometimes telekineticallylifts objects or throw stuff
around, and it looks veryseamless, like I can, I can't
really tell the effects of it.
Yeah.
Jonathan Correia (17:17):
It's really
well done. If you're looking
for, like, jump scares, or likethat type of spooky you're going
to be disappointed, because it'snot that type of movie. It is at
the at its core, a family dramathat just happens to involve
this ghost and the camera work,if anything, is like the the
creepiest part of it, becauseyou're you're definitely, by a
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certain point, going, what istheir intentions? Does it know
what its intentions is? It'sreally interesting. Highly
Jacob Davidson (17:46):
recommend,
although I do still qualified as
a horror movie, because there'sa lot more to the plot, and as
things unfold, it does getpretty disturbing.
Jonathan Correia (17:54):
Oh yeah, no.
I'm trying to not spoilanything. I will say though, as
a millennial watching it, seeinga youngish family move into
like, an older house wherethere's, like, a lot of exposed
brick and wood and stuff. I'mlike, I swear to God if you
paint over that fuckingfireplace. So, and that's that's
another thing for themillennials out there. There's
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so many great like moving fromroom to room, shots of this
beautiful old house so you getto have that house porn that you
watch at 3am touring Zillow,because you will never be able
to afford a house, trust meright there with you, bud. But
yeah, presence absolutelyphenomenal. Go check it out in
theaters, please. We need morespooky, spooky house. Oh yes,
Jacob Davidson (18:40):
on the repertory
side of things. Last night, I
went to a 35 millimeterscreening of Peter Madax Species
II. Oh, you guys seen that?
Jonathan Correia (18:50):
Not the second
one? No, because that, that blu
ray for scream factor, was outof print for the longest fucking
time.
Jacob Davidson (18:56):
Yeah, no, it was
part of the one of those weird
Wednesdays screens at Alamowhere, you know, they go for
obscurity. And this is one ofthose movies that I caught a lot
on the Sci Fi Channel, so Ithought it'd be fun to revisit.
And it is also kind of theiranti Valentines movie. But also,
I'm a big fan of the originalSpecies as well. So yeah, it was
a fun time. And yeah, theyplayed an original 35 million
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print and yeah, this movie iscamp and goopy and wacky as
hell, because, yeah, they clonethe original Alien, still
Natasha Hendrich from theoriginal movie. And now there's
a guy, like this astronaut whowent to Mars and got infected
with alien DNA. So now there'sbasically a male version of the
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alien from species, and theybring back Michael Madsen. And
there's some really crazyscenes, and like a lot of
psychic stuff, between NatashaHendrich and the alien astronaut
guy and, oh yeah, lots of gore.
And also the alien, whenever heimpregnates someone, they.
Immediately become pregnant, andbasically chest burst alien
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babies. So they're just reallygoing for it and but yeah, now
re watching it. Now they theydefinitely knew Peter madak,
definitely knew what kind ofmovie he was making. And they
play for for ridiculous, like,there's a scene where Michael
Madson chases the alien througha grocery store, and since he's
an asteroid, he has his owncereal box. It's, it's pretty
wacky, but isn't as horny as theoriginal. That's Oh yeah, no.
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It's horny as hell, like NatashaHenstridge and see, oh yeah,
George Jon. Jon, I think, yeah,the basically the male alien and
the female alien are psychicallyconnected, so like Natasha
Hendrich literally goes intoheat and is so horny she can rip
a steel door off so that she cantry to get to her mate.
Jonathan Correia (20:48):
So on a scale,
from Babygirl to Love Lies
Bleeding. How horny is it?
Jacob Davidson (20:52):
That's it's
pretty close to Love Lies
Bleeding. It's pretty horny.
Those are both very
James Jay Edwards (20:57):
horny mood. I
was gonna say, what's that? That
scale is from like 9.5 to ninepoints. Listen,
Jacob Davidson (21:03):
listen, same
general area.
Jonathan Correia (21:04):
If it's not,
if it's not somewhere between
those two movies, I don'tconsider it horny, like, that's
not horny enough, like you mightscale, that's my scale, unless
there's a monster fucking scenein it, then it's, then it's not
Jacob Davidson (21:15):
that. Oh,
there's lots of monster fucking.
Ah, okay. We're
Jonathan Correia (21:19):
getting
romantic with the monster
fucking this episode. Love it.
Another
James Jay Edwards (21:23):
thing that I
saw, which is actually a huge
thing coming out this week, Isaw Captain America: Brave New
World.
Jacob Davidson (21:30):
Oh, how was
that? And, I
James Jay Edwards (21:31):
mean, this is
the first movie since probably
Endgame, that actually feelslike a Marvel movie, you know,
because they've been doing like,like Shang Chi and Black Widow
and, you know, the Eternals andthese movies, I didn't mind. I
mean, The Marvels actually likedin like, a crazy B movie, kind
of a way, but they didn't feellike Marvel movies to me. You
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know, they they didn't feel likethey had the same, the same
universe. But this one does, andit is its Falcon is now Captain
America, and there's a newFalcon, and there's a new Black
Widow, and there's a new Hulk,which is Red Hulk, yeah, you
know, it carries on thetradition it is. It's got all of
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the fights and all of the it'sgot all of the stuff that you
expect from a Marvel movie. Youknow, I mean it, it's not as
good as any of the pre Endgameones, but it's the best one
since then. Take that, for whatit's worth, how
Jonathan Correia (22:29):
it's a like,
do they give a lot of screen
time to Tim Blake Nelson?
Because that's that's been myI'm a huge defender of the
Incredible Hulk movie. I thatwas one of my favorite of the
Phase One movies, but mainlybecause I'm a huge fan of the TV
show, and there was a lot ofhomages and like stuff done with
that, the Edward Norton one, butit ends with the teas of Tim
Blake Nielsen becoming theleader. And so does he? We know
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he's in this one, so he's
James Jay Edwards (22:55):
the primary
villain.
Jonathan Correia (22:57):
Thank you.
That's all I needed. It's, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (23:00):
it's not Red
Hulk. Red Hulk is not the
primary villain. He's a pawn,yeah, in, yeah. So yeah, it, but
yeah, he's, he's, he's in itquite a bit. You'll, you won't
be disappointed. It's kind of asurprise, because it's almost
more of a sequel to that EdwardNorton Hulk movie than it is to
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Captain America. Yeah, that tocivil war, or any of the, you
know, the Avengers movies, butlike Harrison Ford plays, he's
now the president. And, youknow, the very beginning of the
movie is him accepting, youknow, is him, you know, taking
office or winning the election.
So it's not really a spoiler,but it's kind of present in
there's a lot of tension betweenthe United States and allies
(23:44):
like Japan and France thatyou're like, is this where we're
going? You know, it's like, it'salmost like they're, they're,
you know, kind of trying to besubtle about a few things that
that are happening today. It'snot woke Captain America though.
Jonathan Correia (24:00):
Oh, people are
gonna claim it is. They're gonna
be like, Oh, that Red Rock mightas well be horror. It's just
like, Will. It's not gonna bethat deep, yeah, but it's gonna
be fun. I mean, come on, it's aMarvel movie. I'm just excited
again. We're getting incrediblehulk sequel, even if it is in
the mask of a Captain Americasequel. So I'm happy
James Jay Edwards (24:18):
there's more
to it than just Tim Blake Nelson
being in it, you know, it is.
It's a Hulk movie, okay,
Jonathan Correia (24:26):
no, I'm, I'm
stoked. I mean, again, you had
to be at leader. You had to be aRed Hulk. I loved, I loved that
run of Red Hulk after the Hulksupposedly died, you know, as
they do in the comics all thetime, like, Oh, God, oh, wait,
no, there's a red one. I thoughtthat was great. The second they
introduced General Ross in thein the Incredible Hulk, I was
like, Oh, we better get Red Hulkat some point. And that day has
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finally come, another recentfilm that I saw. Did you guys
see Get Away yet?
Jacob Davidson (24:56):
No, I want to,
because I love Nick Frost. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia (24:59):
It just hits.
Shudder not too long ago, Ithink it's one of the three
horror projects Nick Frost didlast year. Yeah, because
Jacob Davidson (25:08):
it was this, was
it the crazy family, Krazy
House, Krazy House, yeah. Andthere was one other one, the
Black
Jonathan Correia (25:16):
Cab, I think
it is, yeah, yeah. So this one,
it's the same director as KrazyHouse. So they did two movies
together that came out lastyear, but Nick Frost wrote this
one. And Get Away is about thisfan, this British family that
goes to Sweden, to the smallisland that has this Day of
(25:38):
Remembrance thing, kind ofremembering this event that
happened 200 years ago where theisland was quarantined for
because of disease, and stayedthat way for so long that people
ended up eating each other. Andso they call it Karatan, like
quarantine, but Swedish, and Iknow it's Karatan because they
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say Karatan on so fucking muchin the movie. I want to avoid
spoilers with it. But get awayis a weird fucking movie. I had
so much fun with it as a fan of,like, Danish, Swedish comedies
from that region and how weirdthey are. Like I was sitting
there the whole time going,damn, I need to watch men and
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chicken again after this. But itis. It's a lot of fun. It's
extremely weird. Some of thethere's like this, there's a lot
of little weird things with thedialog, like Nick Frost and his
wife, who's played by angsley B,who's the Irish comedian. They
weirdly, just like, keep going,Okay, daddy, Okay, mommy. And
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it's just like, why are yousaying it like that? There's so
many bits where you're justlike, why are you saying it like
that? And as it goes on, youknow, it gets into like, some
very like, right off the bat,like, folk horrory territory.
And there's like, eightharbingers in the beginning of
the movie. Like, that's the kindof comedy it is, where it's
like, oh yeah, here's the guywho's going to tell you not to
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go to the island now, here'sfive more. And it just like,
it's, it's a lot of fun. It's,it's a it's an easy watch, but,
yeah, I recommend it, and I Istill need to. I don't know when
they're going to release KrazyHouse over here, because I can't
find it anywhere, but I want tosee their other project
together, because I had a lot offun with Get Away now on
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shudder,
Jacob Davidson (27:28):
yeah, I'm very
excited for the Krazy House.
Also, speaking of shudder, Iactually went to a pre screening
of a new release that's comingout this week, The Dead Thing,
the feature debut from ElricKane, and it was very
interesting. Is very much kindof a dread horror, just very
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muted, but, I mean, in a goodway, is basically about this
woman who lives in LA, and she'sjust kind of going from hook up
to hook up through these datingapps and and she finally meets a
guy that she actually loves. Butas with usual, with these types
of horror romances, there's alot more to it than that, and
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things do not go well. It was alot of fun. It was kind of more
low budget horror, but theyreally work with the kind of
resource they had. And it wasshot in LA, which I feel was
very rare these days, especiallyfor more low budget horror. I
was lucky enough to see it atthe new Beverly last week on a
35 millimeter print, which Ithink really added to it. Yeah,
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again, it's one of those thingswhere I can't talk about it too
much about spoiling, except itis the feel one of the feel bad
romance, horror of the season.
So I would highly recommend it,
Jonathan Correia (28:48):
another new
release that came out. And I
feel like this is, like, theonly time it's appropriate for
me to talk about Star Trek. SoI'm going to take it the
Michelle Yeoh, really centeredfilm, Star Trek Section 31 came
out on Paramount plus. And whenI tell you, it was the hardest
thing for me to not watch it atmidnight when it came out,
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because I had work the next day,and also wanted to watch it with
Lindsey, I had to wait till thenext evening. It was, it was a
really hard fight. And let metell you, you guys know me, I
don't like saying bad thingsabout things, because everything
work. Everyone works so hard onfilms, but Section 31 just
really felt like a misfire. It'sif you don't know Star Trek
lore, Section 31 which came outof Deep Space Nine, is the CIA
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of Starfleet, but they're superunknown. They're the ones that
do that, get their hands dirtyso that Starfleet can be the
shining example of post scarcitysociety and in Deep Space Nine,
they're terrifying, because it'slike, first and foremost
admirals don't know about thisthing. There's they have, like,
No, there's no one over. There'sno oversight. So, like, they
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torture. They. They kidnap theydo things, and it's like, holy
shit. This is supposed to be. Itfurther expands upon themes that
were in next gen. And theycontinue it in enterprise,
really. And then, of course,they make lots of jokes of it in
lower decks, but they take thisterrifying thing and they make a
Suicide Squad movie out of it.
And I don't mean the James GunnThe Suicide Squad. I'm talking
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David Ayer where, like, thecomedy is just kind of, like not
really fitting. It's bandtogether. I thought at the very
least that they would be able togive Michelle Yeoh because her
character, Georgiou is very islike the best thing to come out
of Discovery. And she gives, shegives cunt constantly in that
show, and I love it, and theydon't really give her that
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opportunity too much in thismovie, I thought there would at
least be that one redeemingthing. She kind of had a bigger
moment in Wicked than she doesin Section 31 but at the end of
the day, like, there's just,like, a lot of things with it,
where it's just, like, I don'tknow, like at the very end of
the movie, they make referenceto a very specific episode of
next generation where, wherethey go, Oh, our next missions
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on this planet. And if you're anext gen fan, you know that's
that. That's a planet that'sknown as, like, a rape world,
where, like, they have gangs of,like, people marauding across
the land and, like, that was avery dark storyline, and the
movie ends with a joke about it,like they made a yo mama joke
about it, like, that's where I'mkind of like, I understand what
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they were trying to do, tryingto do something that's like, not
Super Star Treky, to kind ofappeal to others, but then,
like, the lore they're using todo it just wasn't really
fitting. And like, altogether,it even sets it up like a TV
pilot movie. And yeah, I was, Iwas very disappointed.
James Jay Edwards (31:48):
So it's like,
at the end of, was it at the end
of the conjuring, when they'reall, well, we have this new
case. We're going, it's inAmityville,
Jonathan Correia (31:57):
yeah? But with
a rape planet, yeah? No, yeah.
It's like, a Oh, the name of theplanet is Turkana four. They
they go, they make they go, ohyeah. And our next mission on
Turkana four, it's like, Oh,more like your mama four. And
I'm like, You did not just makea yo mama joke out of Turkana
Four, okay, that's very darkepisode, like,
James Jay Edwards (32:17):
so that's,
that's even worse, yeah, yeah,
Jacob Davidson (32:19):
no. And I mean,
honestly, I hadn't watched it
because I had heard so muchnegative response to it, like
I'm in some, you know, just sayssome meme groups on Facebook,
like, my favorite is Trexsons,which is like they mash up
Simpsons and Star Trek jokes.
And there have been so manyjokes about how bad Section 31
was. And just how it reallyapparently missed the mark. And,
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like, there were a lot ofpoochie jokes compared to it, to
kind of put in that perspective.
But also the so the big problemwas, is that, apparently it was
originally supposed to be aseries, but then Michelle Yeohs
career really got boosted. Sothey took the footage and tried
to make it into a movie. Andthat sounds like it just did not
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match.
Jonathan Correia (33:08):
Yeah, and then
I'm the biggest defender of of
when it comes to, like, trek,especially the movies like I
even recently watching five. I'mlike, five is actually a good
movie. I'm gonna say it. Ididn't think Shatner did a bad
job with Star Trek five, IntoDarkness I don't defend that
much, because another time itseems like after Deep Space
Nine, no one knows that. Whatthe fuck to do with Section 31
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so it's like, just leave italone. But it's, yeah, it's not
only just like not handlingthat, right, but the editing is
really weird and chaotic anddoesn't sit at all if you really
thought that, like, the AbramsTrek movies didn't have enough
Lens Flare. Well, then Section31's for you, they got fucking
lens flares up the wazoo. It'sjust, it's just weird, like, it,
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it's one of those things whereit's, like, it's trying to have
high fun energy, and it's notlanding and like, again, I was
one of those people for the lastyear was going, like, no, it's
gonna be fun. It's gonna atleast be fun, guys. It's gonna
be very different, but it'sgonna be fun. And I'm sitting
there being like, I don't havemuch to defend it. I'm sorry,
but I'm still gonna get the bluray, because, you know, kind of
complete the collection
James Jay Edwards (34:17):
you're a
completist. Have you guys seen
this other thing I saw, and it'snot good, but there's something
I want to talk about. About It,this movie called Strictly
Confidential that came out lastyear. Don't know that one? Okay,
this is, it's more like a kindof a murder mystery kind of a
thing, um, without the murderthough. But that's a little bit
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of a spoiler, but it isbasically this, this girl dies,
and all of her friends come backto, you know, on the the
anniversary of her death, comeback to, like, hang out at her
house, because she was realclose with her with they were
all real close with her mom andall this other stuff. And it is.
It's not good. It is. It's apretty weak mystery, and it
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feels. Like a Lifetime movie,but Elizabeth Hurley is in it.
She plays the mom. Well, I dotoo. Don't, don't, don't, get me
wrong. Great
Jonathan Correia (35:11):
devil in
Bedazzled. No,
James Jay Edwards (35:13):
hold that
true, though true. It is
directed by her son, DamienHurley. And here is the thing,
this has the most sexualizedgaze on Elizabeth Hurley. And
when you think that it's her songiving this gaze, it just makes
you feel dirty. And the thingis, it's not just like how she's
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dressed or anything. There arelike lesbian love scenes with
Elizabeth Hurley that her son ishaving to direct her in. And I'm
like, it is. It's really creepywhen you think that her son is
okay. Now, do this. Now do this.
Jonathan Correia (35:52):
I'm still
reeling from the fact that her
son's name is Damien, yeah,that's, yeah,
Jacob Davidson (35:58):
my ADHD play the
devil, and now she's got a son
named Damien. Okay, no,
Jonathan Correia (36:03):
she leaned to
that hard. I mean, I love the
bedazzled movies so much. That'sweird, though I'm processing
what you just said. And, huh? Imean, he wasn't the camera
operator, right? No,
James Jay Edwards (36:17):
but it's but,
yeah. I mean, it's really weird.
Yeah, I don't know it, but it'sjust weird because the whole
gaze, I mean, if you see it,you'll know. And the reason I
watched it, it was one of those,like, 399 fanfics deals where I
was like, I need something elsehere. I love Elizabeth Hurley,
let's go for this. And it wasonly when I noticed I'm old
(36:38):
Damian. Hurley, hmm, you know, Iwonder, and I saw and but yeah,
she's really sexualized in it.
And don't get me wrong, this isElizabeth Hurley, so how are you
going to put her in her movieand not sexualize her? I mean,
she's hot, but this is her son.
It's really, really kind of, Idon't know, I needed a shower.
(37:00):
Yeah,
Jacob Davidson (37:01):
that does sound
kind of weird. Well, on my end,
in terms of the repertoryscreenings, I've been seeing a
lot of David Lynch movies intribute to his passing, the
American Cinemateque inparticular done a lot of them, I
(37:21):
let's see. I saw Eracserhead,Wild at Heart, Mulholland Drive,
Fire Walk with Me. Andparticularly of interest to me
was I attended a shorts block,which included several of his
earlier short films. And onethat really struck me was this,
(37:42):
uh, shorty did for the Lumiereanniversary back in 95 where he
actually shot with an originalLumiere camera. And it was, it
was called premonition followingan evil deed. It's only one
minute long. It's on YouTube,and it's one of the most
nightmarish things I have everseen. It was, it was, it was
brilliant. Um, oh, also saw BlueVelvet, but yeah, no, it's, I do
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feel watching all those moviesback to back to back like this,
and in this way, has had aneffect on me. And just, and also
just kind of seeing a lot of therecurring themes and styles that
he has throughout From hisearliest films to his latest.
And as always, it played greatwith crowd. Oh, and also, I saw
a Barb and Star Go to Vista DelMar theatrically. Uh, that movie
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rules, you
Jonathan Correia (38:29):
know, I was
planning on going to that
screening, and then I ended uphaving to do a dinner meeting,
and Jacob text me. He's like,I'm in the theater. Where are
you? We didn't even discussgoing to see that together. He
just knew, like, if there was ascreening of Barb and star, that
I should be at it, and
Jacob Davidson (38:44):
I sensed your
presence.
Jonathan Correia (38:45):
It was, it was
worth being. It was worth
missing it. I could tell you, itwas a really good dinner
meeting, but boy was I think Idid in the middle of it, just
Astro project myself into intothe Egyptian and just kind of
like floated above everyone,just being, just for, like, at
least a few of those musicalnumbers I was there for the
seagull song,
Jacob Davidson (39:03):
at least, yeah,
you were there. Your spiritual
cool, lots, yeah,
Jonathan Correia (39:08):
this, this,
this happened in reverse, when I
felt a strong need to watch TheGuyver one day. And it was, and
it very much so was JacobNosferatuing me just beckoning
watch The Guyver, or
Unknown (39:23):
watch the grave, or to,
do
James Jay Edwards (39:26):
you know,
speaking of that, I actually had
a moment like that too withJacob beckoning me. But it was
when Frankie Freako, oh yeah, itwas on sale, on voodoo and on
the call, you know what, if Idon't buy this.
So, yeah, I got to watch, andthat was pretty much what I
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expected, just like mad, thoselittle puppets, yes. And the
thing is, we, you know, we're,we're talking about, um, you
know, feeling, feeling bad for,like, rock. Raccoon or feeling
sad about the headless corpse inStreet Trash. There is a moment
in Frankie Freako where I'mlike, no, no, this guy can't
(40:09):
die.
Jacob Davidson (40:10):
Yeah, no. It's
funny. I actually had some
friends over, and we did adouble feature of Hundreds of
Beavers and Frankie Freako, mytwo favorite comedies
last year, such a Jacob doublefeature. It's
me. It's purely me, yeah, andyeah. Also my the theme being
that they're both basically liveaction cartoons. But, you know,
I still love Frankie Freako and,you know, and re watching it. I
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do really love Connor Sweeney'sperformance, being this, just
the ultimate milquetoast guy.
And also Adam Brooks just beinghis like really sleazy boss, Mr.
Beakler, after Jon Carl Buchafrom the original ghoulies, who
just keeps telling me, Hey, whyaren't you at the office writing
those documents? And then hegets covered in glue, and he's
(40:54):
just in glue for the rest of themovie, but he says he's okay,
even while the other freakos arejust running around them. I just
Jonathan Correia (41:02):
love how we
just universally agreed that
Jacob does Nosferatu beckoning,but it's not sexual at all. It's
just him getting us to watchmovies.
Jacob Davidson (41:14):
Yeah, that's my
power. I get. I spiritually
force people to watch the crazyass movies that I love, you
Jonathan Correia (41:22):
need to watch
the Mandys
Jacob Davidson (41:27):
of beavers.
Beavers, you gotta, you
Jonathan Correia (41:32):
gotta roll the
Rs. Beavers,
Jacob Davidson (41:35):
I have trouble
rolling my Rs. Hundreds of
beaver Damn it. We'll work onit. We'll work on it. I'll never
be a nose.
Unknown (41:45):
Oh, I'll
Jonathan Correia (41:47):
never be a
Nosferatu
Jacob Davidson (41:49):
I can't roll my
R's. I can't be a vampire.
Jonathan Correia (41:52):
Well, that's
why you got to be a Vourdalak,
you know, which? Oh, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (41:56):
I gotta watch
that one. Yeah. So good. I, I, I
actually did that was, that wasa Correia beckoning me. Yeah, I
did see word a lot. You wereright that it's like, is it
actually a marionette? It is,yeah, it is so uncanny. Yeah,
you have to see the word lock,Jacob. It is, oh my God. It is,
(42:17):
like, it's weird. It's just soUNC, like, the villain is
literally a puppet.
Jonathan Correia (42:23):
But you, you,
you believe it like, yeah, it's
not. You're not sitting theregoing, it's a puppet. You're
saying they're going, this is onan uncanny This is an unnatural
being. This does this should notexist in nature. This thing,
yep. And here it is talking atme, and I don't like it, but
it's also so fun. It's such acut. Yeah, I love how Jacob's
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beckoning is like Frankie Freakoguy, very me. I'm going Val de
la. It's so clunky. And youwatch the 20 movie guys like,
that's my beckoning,
James Jay Edwards (42:58):
and mine is
like, gawk. Elizabeth Hurley,
Jonathan Correia (43:03):
don't think
about the sun directing her and
that lesbian scene
James Jay Edwards (43:09):
it's not
creepy if it's not her son.
Jacob Davidson (43:13):
Look, we all
have our different powers. But
seriously, Vourdalak. It's onshudder. I will watch it. I
James Jay Edwards (43:20):
there was
this kind of weird sale on
voodoo, like, a month ago, wherethey were selling like, all
these really bad movies forcheap. So one of them was, you
got both coffin movies for likefive bucks.
Jacob Davidson (43:31):
Have you guys
seen these coffin
Jonathan Correia (43:35):
too? Yeah, see
them in the sales. But I'm like,
James Jay Edwards (43:37):
Ah, well,
yeah, the big turn off is the
first one has Kevin Sorbo in it.
So, but, you know, don't holdthat against it. These movies,
they're not good, but they'rekind of like, they're kind of
like the Saw movies where, like,there's, it's, it's like
someone's in this trap, and it'ssort of like a cross between
Buried and Saw. And, you know,they're, they're nice and short,
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so that that's, it's a mercifulthing, because they're not good,
but they're interesting enough,I guess. But another one that I
got on one of these, like cheapsales. Have you guys seen that
movie? Karen from a few yearsago, but I heard about, I think
it's Taryn Manning from Orangeis the New Black? Yeah. This
movie is so on the nose, so onthe nose, about what it is,
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because it's like this. It'swhat you would think it is.
There's a black family thatmoves into this affluent suburb,
and their neighbor is Karen andand she makes their life
miserable by being a Karen. It'sexactly what you think it is.
You know, she'll like make fakepolice calls on them, and, you
know, it's, it was another one,it was like three bucks, or it
(44:43):
was, it was like three moviesfor like eight bucks. I'm like,
that's about, right? It's aboutworth the two something I paid.
Jonathan Correia (44:51):
Yeah, it was
a, it was a b e t, original
movie. I was like, wasn't it amade for TV movie? I wasn't
really b e t, yeah. I wasthinking it was either lifetime
or B E T. That's why I wanted tosee because sometimes those
movies are unhinged.
James Jay Edwards (45:04):
This is
unhinged. And the thing is, it's
you can it. I mean, actuallydoes make sense, because the all
of the black characters are theones are, like, the voice of
reason and like, they'll callher out on her shit, and then
she just goes even more and morecrazy. Man. This is like, I
mean, it really doesn't makeKaren's look good, which, I
mean, there's not really a waythat you can make Karens look
good. But this one is, it'spretty on the nose, though,
(45:25):
about what it's trying to do ona scale
Jonathan Correia (45:27):
of of, on a
scale of what What Happened to
Baby Jane and and the front roomin the front room, yeah, there
we go, on a scale of WhatHappened to Baby Jane and The
Front Room, like, how much intohagsploitation Is Taylor
Manning's character. It's,
James Jay Edwards (45:45):
it's closer
to the front room, but she's not
really so haggy as she is just,you know, you just want to slap
her, you know, but she but, butit's closer to the front room,
because the racial thing isthere, you know.
Jonathan Correia (45:59):
But she
doesn't shit herself. It's on
max. It's so good. Just Oh, the
James Jay Edwards (46:08):
front room
is, I'll
Jacob Davidson (46:10):
get around to
it. You haven't seen that. Oh,
pay special
James Jay Edwards (46:12):
attention to
the score, the score from the
front room. I'm waiting for A24to have that record.
Jonathan Correia (46:17):
Jacob, watch
The Front Room. Katheryn Hunters
is cunty.
Jacob Davidson (46:27):
okay.
James Jay Edwards (46:30):
I think all
the other really bad movies that
I that I saw, aren't worthmentioning, movies like with
names like screwdriver and theretreat, and it's like, do I
even remember what these areabout. If they, you know,
Jonathan Correia (46:43):
no, I will say
it's, it's not horror, it's
straight up comedy, but it needsto be shouted from the rooftops.
Jacob Davidson (46:52):
One of those
days, yes, oh, I knew you were
gonna say that, yeah. One ofthem days, one of them
Jonathan Correia (46:58):
days, one of
them days, produced by Issa
Lopez with Keke Palmer and SZAIt's, it's so good. I mean,
growing up the Friday movies,barber shop movies, these slice
of life films that take place inin the city. Ours were some of
my favorites. I revisited thebarber shop movies recently.
Beauty Shop is is so good.
Whoever trash talks beauty shop.
(47:22):
I will meet you out back. But,yeah, it's one of them days.
It's just so funny. Keke Palmeris always amazing, but SZA
steals that fucking movie. Sheis so funny in it.
Jacob Davidson (47:33):
And, yeah, she
is very chaotic. And it's fun,
man.
Jonathan Correia (47:37):
Yeah, it was
just so refreshing, just having
a slice of life comedy again.
And it's really sad that wedon't get more of those where
it's just two characters on likecrazy and everyday adventure,
and
Jacob Davidson (47:51):
it's one of the
and it is literally a day. It
just takes place over the courseof day. And there. I love it.
There's a time where it's liketime until rents do Yeah, and
they just going from onemisadventure for another to
another, desperately trying toget the money? Yeah,
Jonathan Correia (48:05):
because it's
two friends trying to get money
to pay rent after one of theirboyfriends stole all their
money. And there's a reallygreat part where they go to a
payday loan place, and KatWilliams plays a homeless man
outside, and before they even,his name is Lucky, yeah, his
name is Lucky. And he's like,don't do it. Go do it. And like,
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as someone who used to work indebt relief, yeah? And as, like,
someone who worked, used to workin debt relief, like, I'm that's
all I shout when I see peoplegoing into payday loans, it's
like, no, don't do it. And hesays exactly what I would say,
if you don't have the money thisweek, you're not gonna have it
next week. That's and they'relike, why do you know this? He's
like, I got eight loads throughthem, you know, but I gave up
everything, and I'm free now.
I'm freer than you. It's, it's,yeah, it's really
Jacob Davidson (48:49):
funny. Yeah, no.
And it is one of those thingswhere it's almost like After
Hours, where you just, it's justone situation after another, and
it gets more and moreridiculous, but it's just so
funny. And, yeah, the and thecast works so well off each
other. And, I mean, it's kind ofa horror movie, because we're
all, I mean, just if you have topay rent, that's scary, yeah,
Jonathan Correia (49:12):
yeah, the real
villians are the landlords. Yes,
actually, that's part of themovie. But Dead Kennedys gave us
a solution to that. So, youknow, yeah, After Hours or Into
the Night. I just watched intothe night for the first time
recently, because, you know, itwas there had a little bit of a
stance on why I wouldn't watchthat movie, but I watched it, I
was surprised on how much Iliked it, because I really
(49:35):
wanted to hate that movie. Itbeing the post Twilight Zone
John Landis movie. But, yeah,but hey, man, you haven't you
throw in a Jim Henson cameo andyou got me, but also the mute
the music. The score was donewith BB King. He not only did
the theme songs, but like theywould score the movie, and then
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BB would do guitar over it, andthe scores of. Amazing. This is
the main reason why I wanted towatch it. And the music video
for it has Michelle Pfeiffer inlike a blue blade, blue glammed
up blazer, playing saxophone,which I was like, I didn't think
Michelle Pfeiffer could servemore cunt than she did in Batman
Returns, but her in a blueblazer playing saxophone. Yeah,
(50:19):
that she did Damn I know, withBB King, come on, guys. Alright.
Well,
James Jay Edwards (50:27):
believe it or
not, we did have a topic planned
for this week, but we calledOmaha in the middle, and we just
decided to give you guys a catchup episode so you like, hope you
liked that. One more thing totalk about before we split,
though, yeah, I did watch onCorreia's recommendation pistol
that Sex Pistols mini series.
Oh, yeah. What'd you think thatruled? That was good, right?
(50:48):
That was awesome. And the thingis, what it made me kind of, it
made me kind of feel bad forChrissy Hind, because she was
around, I knew that she wasaround the pistols in the clash,
but, um, she just kept gettingdissed by them. And I'm, you
know, and eventually sheoutlasted them, you know, she's,
you know, got her own thing. Butthe girl who plays Chrissy Hein
Sidney Chandler, who is KyleChandler's daughter from Friday
(51:11):
Night Lights and one of theGodzilla movies, so kind of a
Nepo baby, but she's, like, shewas awesome. She's an awesome
Chrissy Hyde. But, um, the guythat they got to play, Johnny
Rotten, is perfect. Oh,
Jonathan Correia (51:26):
perfect. That
introduction. Did I not tell you
that was, like the perfectintroduction for Johnny Rotten,
like he's a horror villain.
James Jay Edwards (51:33):
Yeah, he's
well, but the thing is, his
name's Anson Boone, the theactor, and he is the perfect
Jon. And the funny thing is, hebecomes the voice of reason by
the end. And you're like, wait aminute, this dude who they they
call him rotten because of hisbreath in his teeth.
And he's the guy who's sittingthere, you know, telling them,
(51:55):
you know, he's telling SteveJones what, you know, what's
what. And I always thought SteveJones was the most sensible guy
in the pistols, but this kind ofchanged my mind. Well,
Jonathan Correia (52:04):
it's, again,
it's different. Times different,
you know, things going on andlike, I think it's, I haven't
read Steve Jones's book sincehigh school, so I can't really
attest to how accurate it ishistorically, but I do think
they do a good job of, kind oflike giving everyone that
opportunity to be voice ofreason, but also, like showcase,
like no one's really thevillain, just like everyone kind
(52:25):
of has a moment and it all but,but it all accumulates. And I am
really glad that they do gointo, like the American tour and
like the same visions beingbrought up and all that stuff,
and
James Jay Edwards (52:38):
the American
tour, that's where they broke
up. I mean, the timeline ispretty solid. It goes from the
formation of the band to thebreakup, which was only like two
years. I mean, the Sex Pistolswere I mean, they made one
record, and it's probably themost, arguably the most
influential punk rock record.
You could say the first Ramonesor the first clash. But never
mind, the bullocks is arguably,I mean, for a band that only did
(53:01):
that record, yeah. I mean, comeon, there are other Sex Pistols
records out there, but they'recomply. They just keep changing
the order of the songs. And, youknow,
Jonathan Correia (53:13):
one could
argue the soundtrack to the
great rock and roll Swindle.
Well,
James Jay Edwards (53:17):
it's exactly
kind of great. It's the Rock and
Roll Swindle. There they, youknow. And also, there's a couple
of live records, but, I mean,yeah, there's, there's one
pistols record, but that's theother thing. I mean, the music
for this is incredible. I mean,just, and it's funny, because
there's one scene where they'reshowing, they're showing Steve
Jones and Glenn Matlock workingout, I think it's Anarchy in the
(53:40):
UK and and he's shown him thechords, and he's and Matlock,
who's a musician, he's like, oh,and then the diminished fifth,
and then you've got the minor,and then Steve Jones, like, no
see, play it like a sex pistol.
That was like, the best one,play it like a sex pistol. So
Jonathan Correia (54:00):
good. But also
the bodies episode that was, oh,
where they actually, becausethat supposedly happened, is
that they actually did meet agirl who was walking around,
Pauline, yeah, with withsomething in her purse. And it
was like, once you they revealwhat's in the purse. It's like,
Oh, fuck. And like, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (54:19):
yep. So
anyway, pistol, I got it. They
pulled it from Hulu, but I gotit. It was on one of those
fanfics deals where you get thewhole mini series. And it was
like, 499 and I'm like, Okay,I'm in for this. Because, on
your recommendation, I'm like,I'm in. But anyway, pistol, very
Danny Boyle project too. Youknow, it's funny because you
(54:39):
said it was a very Danny Boyleproject. I didn't realize was
actually a Danny Boyle probablyat the end of the first episode.
It's all directed by Danny BoyI'm like, Oh, it wasn't just a
clever analogy. This is actuallya Danny Boyle. No, I think he
directed the whole thing. Yeah,I don't know. I know he created
the series, but, yeah. That wasfunny, but
Jonathan Correia (55:00):
like his
visual style and marks are just
like all over that series andand Maisie God, what's name from
Game of Thrones, Maisie Williamsalso was phenomenal as one of
the models that worked at thesex shop for Vivienne Westwood,
which I liked, how that showshowed how much like Vivienne
(55:21):
Westwood was, like, prettyfucked over, because she created
the whole style that was UKpunk. You know, she
James Jay Edwards (55:29):
also kind of
became the voice of reason, too,
in Malcolm's ear. Yeah, youknow, it's like, it's like Steve
Jones had Johnny Rotten as hisvoice of reason, and Malcolm had
Vivian as her Yeah? So it was,it's cool. If you ever wonder
what went on behind the scenes,I think it's pretty I mean, I
know the timeline is correct.
They may have exaggerated somestuff, but yeah, it just made me
(55:49):
feel bad for for Chrissy Hind,yeah, you know, hey, things
worked out well for her in theend. And it's
Jonathan Correia (55:56):
also one of
the few sex pistol projects that
does not portray Nancy's sperginas as, just like the Antichrist.
You know,
James Jay Edwards (56:05):
it's weird,
because it all it makes, it
makes Sid look like the bad guyin that because, like, he wanted
to, they were totally codependent. And like, like the
part where they're playing onthe boat and he sees her on the
shores, Nancy, Nah, you knowit's like, is he gonna swim
across?
I don't know, all right. Well,let's get out of here. We'll
(56:28):
have a topic for you, or maybean interview. I don't know
what's coming up next. Yes,we're cooking up something. We
have interviews in the queue,but we also have a topic on
online for you. So yeah, we'llsee. But for this time. Hope you
enjoyed our little catch up. Andthis is the real Season Two
premiere, because we had the theinterview that we couldn't pass
(56:48):
that Mary Beth was awesome. Thatwas awesome interview. Oh yeah,
yeah, but it was kind of a weirdseason premiere. But we'll,
we'll catch you guys in a coupleweeks. Our theme song is by
Restless Spirits, so go givethem a listen. And our artwork
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