Talking Titans Episode 3

Welcome back to another episode of TALKING TITANS! Correia is joined by EOH Producer Lindsey Gant and professional author, podcaster, and publicist Waylon Jordan to spill the tea on episodes 5-7 of The Boulet Brothers' Dragula Titans! Who went home? Who served the best looks? The drama in the boudoir!  Its all new on TALKING TITANS! 

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Jonathan Correia (00:10):
We'll get it someday. Welcome to Eye On
Horror's Talking Titans. Thepodcast where we talk about the
Boulet Brothers Dragula Titans.
I Eye On Horror of course it'sthe official podcast of
iHorror.com. I'm your hostJonathan Correia. And with me as
usual with this we're not everyother week we're not every week
where we can get to watch in theepisodes but with me as every

(00:31):
time we do record is LindseyGant Lindsey, how are you today?

Lindsey (00:36):
Smooth Jon, that's very smooth though. So you have here
you are a podcast professional.

Jonathan Correia (00:42):
You know, I've been doing this for like five
years or so now. So

Lindsey (00:46):
doing great so far, but I am doing great and I am happy
to be here.

Jonathan Correia (00:51):
And also with us is author, writer and fellow
podcaster because he juststarted his new podcast Gunkel
Waylon's Place. Waylon JordanWaylon, how are you this
evening?

Waylon Jordan (01:01):
I'm hanging in there. This is I'm really
looking forward to the nightbecause we're off to a banger of
a start. So I'm ready to seewhat happens. I've already
called Jonathan Daddy and hedidn't take it well, so we'll
just see what happens next.

Jonathan Correia (01:15):
What do you mean I didn't take it well.

Lindsey (01:17):
There was a full face flush there.

Waylon Jordan (01:20):
Yes. He basically whited out his video he turned
so bright.

Jonathan Correia (01:26):
In my defense, Lindsey and I's old roommate
ruined the term daddy for us.

Lindsey (01:32):
He really did. We do have a lot to get to tonight. We
have three whole episodes we'retalking about Yes. Episode Five,
six and seven. So there's somuch drama to get to. It's wild.

Waylon Jordan (01:44):
That last three episodes was nothing but drama
until it all just blew up ineveryone's face.

Lindsey (01:50):
Oh, absolutely.

Jonathan Correia (01:52):
I don't know what you guys are talking about
with Titans being drama like

Lindsey (01:58):
very chill, nothing going on.

Jonathan Correia (02:00):
It's purely about the art and no one is
dramatic about anything ever.
Well anyways, Episode Five wehad our basic bitch and Zombie
Prom combo episode where thewhere they had to create a basic
bitch look, and then show whatthat basic bitch would look like
when they were turned into azombie at the prom.

Lindsey (02:19):
I honestly really liked this like I think it was a
really interesting creativechallenge like going into like
because that's what they weresaying was that a lot of a lot
of these people on dragula maynot necessarily do the beauty
and a lot of their looks and sohaving them go to classic drag
performance very beautiful, veryQueen like and then going full

(02:41):
draggy Allah just completelydestroying and tearing apart
their looks. And just Yeah, Ithought it was very interesting
and very cool the way they wentabout it.

Jonathan Correia (02:48):
And they always do something cool with
Yes, in both episodes, both fiveand six. Yeah,
the basic bitch challengebecause I believe it was season
two, there was a lot it was oneof the last times they did the
yeah, she dropped a couple ofhints before I think but yeah,
she's really trying to play upthat someone's trying to
basic bitch challenge. And thatwas the one where it was the
slasher video so it would alwaysthey all had to orchestrate
their own deaths. And that'swhere we got the iconic
Disasterina's line I that gocould give me a give me slim and

(03:10):
the alcoholic give me apersonality. Which is amazing.
And with this one with thezombie looks, we got some really
fierce zombies. But before anyof that could happen. I think
this was this the episode whereCoco started claiming that pizza
one was sabotage and her.

(03:37):
sabotage her. I just don't knowhow we haven't like, like
somebody on production hasn'tseen it happen.
Like you would think that thatwould be something that they
would intercut an edit with kindof like when when they did the
whole voting thing. And thenlater on they did like, oh,
remember when Asturd voted forCoco or I remember when so and
so did you know that seems likesomething that they would do at

(03:58):
some point. Like they would belike oh, look at so and so weak
that we caught on a GoProsabotaging, but also like when
did these people have the time?
I like to Asturd's responsive,just saying like, Hey, I'm a
messy bitch. And I lose thingsall the time. She's a messy
bitch too. So she's probablyjust losing stuff.

Lindsey (04:14):
Well, John, as somebody who works on reality TV
production, like do you? Couldyou imagine that it'd be
possible to go and sabotagesomebody else's stuff? Or is it
kind of under lock and key whenthat's like a matter of
competition? So I know thatthey're putting together all
their outfits from scratch. Idon't know how much of that is
done at home. I don't know howmuch of that is kept on stage.

(04:34):
But do you think that that wouldbe something that's that's
possible to do on set?

Jonathan Correia (04:38):
Um, I mean, it depends. You know, I've worked
on a few of these competitionsshows I've actually worked on a
competition show that's verysimilar to Dragula. That will
not be named that involves a lotof costume changes. Jon

Lindsey (04:55):
is giving us very dramatic looks for those who
cannot see it. Yes. In an audioformat,

Jonathan Correia (05:02):
I can't really say what I worked on, but I
worked on something with with abunch of drag queens, it's
known. And with that, you know,they bring all their costumes,
they bring all their stuff, youknow, they have ideas of like,
what's going to be coming, I'massuming because those bitches
brought like 15-20 trucks ofclose with. But with that show,
they're very secretive. They'revery, everything's

(05:24):
compartmentalized. I was workingwith cast and even I didn't know
most of the people's names,because they were immediately
given a color and and go by theroom thing. So like, if you
tried to quiz me on who was inthat season, I have no idea. I
hope no one sabotaging, thatwould be terrible. That'd be
horrible. That would totallysuck. And everyone's already
being shady and two face theseason anyway, so we don't need

(05:47):
that element.

Waylon Jordan (05:48):
So let's talk about those basic bitch looks.
Yeah. Because I was loving someof the stuff. You know, Aborha
Once again, did not understandthe assignment did not pay
attention to the assignment. Imean, come on. This is high
school prom day, she had slept,she stopped listening at high
school because she shows up in acheerleader uniform and who

(06:11):
wears a cheerleading uniform tothe prom? No one

Jonathan Correia (06:13):
what? I never went. So I don't know. I don't
have any examples. But I wouldassume that's a faux PA or that
you would go for something else.
I'm assuming

Lindsey (06:21):
I think the Boulets were saying that their
interpretation of it was thecheerleader who either got
kicked out and couldn't go toprom, or they had to do a
cheerleading competition insteadof prom. But that was them
trying to widely grasp at it tofigure out how to fit it in.
Yes.

Waylon Jordan (06:36):
I think they gave her more credit. Yeah. Then then
was due on that. I think it wasjust again, Aborha wanting to do
her own thing. She seems tothink that, you know, if she
does her own thing, it makes herstand out rather than you know,
pissing people off because she'snot doing what she's supposed to
be doing.

Jonathan Correia (06:52):
I mean, outside of it being a prom
challenge. I didn't hate her.
Look, I thought it was prettysolid, especially her zombie.
You know, she had a lot of funwith the fake titties flopping
around all everywhere. You know,she really went for the camp. So
it's it's not that it was a badlook. It was again, you just
didn't get the assignment, whichis kind of her M.O. at this
point. That being said, I think,Bora I know we have definitely

(07:13):
ragged on her quite a bit on theshow. I think she kind of
redeemed herself this week. Youknow, everyone kind of gave her
the sit down. It was like allright, mother fucker you need to
get your shit together. You'repissing us all off. And I think
she got a really like took thatto heart. But yeah, Hoso
wouldn't let that go. But we'llget to that in a little bit.
What about Melissa? BecauseMelissa had the best Prom book,

(07:36):
but her zombie look was very,it's a bit rough.

Waylon Jordan (07:44):
You know, my thing was, Melissa is you know,
we had talked about before, youknow, that Aborha goes off and
does her own thing. And Melissaalmost played it too safe again.
Like she didn't fully giveherself over to it. And she kept
trying and and you know, Bravofor her trying the prosthetics
and things like that. But again,it's not something that she's
really good at that she's reallymastered. And I don't know why

(08:07):
she kept trying to force thatwhen it kept falling apart on
her. I mean, I loved the promlook. But once she went zombie,
it was just kind of like meh. Imean, the pieces were falling
weren't well, they weren'tnecessarily falling off, but
they weren't great. And I'm justnot sure what she was trying to

(08:27):
prove at that point.

Lindsey (08:28):
I don't know like what I like about Melissa is, to me,
it feels like she's every singletime she's trying extremely hard
to go out of her box. Like it'llbe in the glamour person every
time she does such dramatichorror or filth look, I think
it's I think it's I'm excited tosee it and excited to see what
she does. This one didn't hit asmuch for me, but I think it's

(08:49):
still a cool look. And I thinkthat it was a really good
degradation of the beautifulprom queen look that she had it
really just completely fellapart. Even when she was just
standing there talking when theywere giving their critiques. Her
face of course was like kind ofpeeling off because the
prosthetics but she just looksreally gory and just really kind
of just disheveled in a way thatI don't ever see of Melissa. So,

(09:13):
you know, it may not have beendone as well as other people
could do but the thought isthere and I really appreciate
her really going for it with herlooks.

Jonathan Correia (09:23):
Yeah. Now of course the two best looks. Were
our girl CoCo Kaine and Victoriablack, which we have to admit, I
think this challenge was madefor Victoria black. She is known
for giving some of the mostfierce and beautiful looks while
also absolutely killing it withprosthetics and whatnot. So a

(09:43):
challenge that combines the two,but still has to be a separate
thing. It seemed almost likethere was no way to compete,
right? But Coco came real close.
I thought her look wasphenomenal.

Waylon Jordan (09:54):
Yeah, Coco really was and I wonder like I know
it's it's not supposed to be orwhatever but the last couple of
episodes just watching. Do youfeel like things have been kind
of weighted toward Victoria insome kind of way? Because it
seems like the woman works. Imean, that Queen works her ass

(10:17):
off. But like it seems not onlythat the challenges are right up
her alley, but at the same time,like she's still in this
competition, and deservedly so.
But she's had some rough weeksand still kind of gotten the
safety call on everything andmade it doesn't feel like
they're quite as hard. And Ilove me some Victoria. Y'all

(10:38):
know how I feel about Victoria.
I just want Victoria to comehang out with me. And maybe we
go to dinner or something, youknow, I mean, that's just me.
But like,

Jonathan Correia (10:48):
we know you forgive her for the mullet? We
know I do.

Waylon Jordan (10:51):
I do. But it just seems like things kind of skewed
towards her a little bit. Thelast couple of episodes.

Lindsey (10:58):
Waylon, are you claiming sabotage from the
producers of the Bouletbrothers? Absolutely. pushing
her through my gun ever.

Jonathan Correia (11:08):
I mean, now I don't sabotage. I don't know if
there's favoritism. You know, Ithink that they're a little
lenient, maybe? Uh huh. And Ithink that comes up most in the
in Episode Seven with their fishlook. Because like, it's one of
those things. I think one of theproblems is that her technique,
and what she does is, so it'slike she does it on such a

(11:31):
professional level. They evensaid it in Episode Seven, it's
hard to knock it down, becauseit's done so well. But it's not
quite what is needed. And soright, this thing that is
extreme professionalism, extremeeffort, is not, it's amazing,
but it's not exactly what'sbeing asked. And I think that's

(11:51):
what a lot of the problem comesdown to is what and what happens
with Victoria is like, she doessuch a great job, but it's just,
it's hard. It's like, it's hardto explain it. But it's like,
you didn't fuck up, but youdidn't do it. Right.

Waylon Jordan (12:04):
Right. I mean, and she has avoided so much of
the drama this this season. Imean, you know, until the end of
this episode, and then thingskind of careened, but you know,
I mean, it's like she has reallytried to just like keep her head
down and just try to do whatshe's supposed to be doing. So I

(12:26):
don't know. I don't know. Itjust felt a little. It did feel
a little skewed to me. I don'tknow. I'm not saying that
anybody is trying to playanything. I'm just saying maybe
the way that they're editing itpossibly.

Jonathan Correia (12:37):
Well, what we do know is that she ultimately
did win the competition and wasgiven the opportunity to pick
the bottom two looks and quietVictoria, who keeps her head
down, said that she was going tojudge by you know, take
everything in consideration, butalso leaned a little bit into
the drama and pick two out ofthe three people caught in that
love triangle.

Lindsey (12:58):
Which can we take a moment and talk about the drama
here with this love trianglebecause this was the episode,
things really exponentially justlike blew up in the boudoir.
Like, okay, so we have Aborha,Asturd, and Hoso and at the
beginning of this episode, wehave a moment in which they all

(13:19):
start pairing off then like, Oh,do you want to go to prom with
me like doing a cute littlething that you would do when you
have a prom episode.

Jonathan Correia (13:26):
Initiated by Hoso, want that on the record

Lindsey (13:31):
and then suddenly, they don't have an even number of
people. So someone's gonna beleft out. That's just how math
works. And so that happens to beAborha in this instance. And
abora takes it in stride. Shegoes and asks a mannequin out to
prom and it was very cute, funmoment that think that Aborha
had, and everyone's laughing,having fun with it. And suddenly
Hoso was oh my god, thisreality. This is not cool. Not

(13:55):
cool, guys. We can't treatAborha like this anymore. And
she was like having a full blownmeltdown and the boudoir because
suddenly nobody wanted to pairup with Aborha like, I don't
understand what happened here.
And it just completely blew upand derail the entire episode in
terms of the relationshipsbetween folks and and just
general drama, this episode

Jonathan Correia (14:16):
to the point where it carried into the next
day when they were gettingready. And like the three of
them were like very silent, veryquiet, and then Coco went off on
them and they're like, I'msorry, what the fuck is this all
about? And they're like, Well,you know, yesterday was the
thing she's like, that's what itis. Wow. And like we got full
blown Coco just throwing shadecalling them, What was it?

Lindsey (14:36):
Titty fucking baby? Boo the fuck who? You know a Titty
Fucking baby is someone who's soclaps onto their mother's
nipple?

Jonathan Correia (14:46):
That was one of the greatest cutaways ever
when it's just like tittyfucking baby boo the fuck who a
titty fucking baby is.

Lindsey (14:53):
We need to have a definition in here just to be
clear about what I'm saying bytitty fucking baby.

Waylon Jordan (14:59):
So you will know

Jonathan Correia (15:00):
whoever's editing knows how to enter cut a
Coco Cane moment perfectly

Lindsey (15:06):
the editors love cocoa it's amazing what they do here

Jonathan Correia (15:10):
yeah cuz they did it in Episode Seven too when
Saint gave a he was givencritiques and then st says
everything just goes not Sainttelling me I'm going to slow
yeah

Lindsey (15:23):
the perfect little kind of

Jonathan Correia (15:26):
which is great because I fucking love Saint but
Saint does tend to not bring alot of energy

Lindsey (15:31):
I want to whole reality show with just Coco doing some
doing Coco stuff. I don't know.
I guess that's her Instagramright now though. She's just
constantly on live. Like doingher makeup talking about ghost
stories from her childhood. It'sjust amazing.

Jonathan Correia (15:48):
Just taking huge bong rips

Lindsey (15:49):
highly recommend. Yes, just wake n' baking in the
morning. Doing make-up

Jonathan Correia (15:55):
it so good.
But yeah, that that lovetriangle did very much so get
very weary very much

Waylon Jordan (16:04):
old since the first episode but yeah, it felt
like the fuse was lit. Finallyin this episode, and you know, I
mean, I really hoped that whenVictoria made her decisions that
it might put an end to some allof that but all it did was just
the I mean they they still justact like that towards one

(16:24):
another. I don't think anybody'shappy.

Jonathan Correia (16:27):
No. Well, and that was the thing too is that
like a lot of it you know, was alot of people projecting onto
Aborah and like, especially inseeing how she was acting in the
last couple episodes, and herexit and everything. So much of
the drama from the from thetriangle came from other people
going Aborah Don't you feel likeshit? Don't you feel like shit
with them doing this? She'slike, No, I'm fine. No, you must
feel like shit. You must reallyfeel like shit. Well, yeah,

(16:48):
don't feel great about Yeah, youfeel like shit, don't you? And
it just which I is not fair toher. Like, it made me feel like
a dick for things for being soannoyed by her earlier in the
season. Because it was justlike, ya know, that people have
been just like, projecting allof this onto her and projecting
these insecurities andeverything. And like the
pinnacle of that is Hoso withthe Oh, not cool, guys. It's

(17:09):
like dude, you started it. Youstarted this whole oh, let's go
to prom together thing and thenyou were laughing with the with
the mannequins for like five or10 minutes and then all sudden
just went Oh wait guys. And thenshe even admitted she's like
maybe I just kind of made thingsworse with this whole thing.
It's like yeah, yeah, kind offucking did.

Lindsey (17:28):
It's absolutely true.
Jon, I think Aborah like hasreally been taking the brunt of
all this stuff. And some of themhave been calling out Hoso but
not nearly as much. And I don'tunderstand why Hoso can just
like glide through withouttaking any repercussions for the
drama. She's instilling. Yeah,yeah, Aborah really did take the
brunt of that when she was justtrying to make the best of
situation and made me sad thatshe was the one who had to leave

(17:50):
because of this, because Aborahwas the one that kicked out of
Episode Five. And I did not likeany of her outfits this episode.
And so I you know, that's fine,but I think it really was
relating to the drama andVictoria, deciding that she
would be the one to who leavingwould cause the end of the Rift,

Jonathan Correia (18:12):
there was a lot where it made sense that
this was Aborah's time to go.
Looking back, I am kind of gladthat she got to spend more time
in there, you know, got to seeher grow, got to see her art
more of her art. I do reallywish though, that love triangle
drama that everyone was creatingwas not a part of the factor of
her leaving. Talking aboutcharacter development. I was a
bit sad to see her go,

Lindsey (18:33):
you know? Yeah, same here.

Jonathan Correia (18:35):
But hey, someone has to go home at the
end of the night, every night orthought except. And that leads

Lindsey (18:43):
Leading to the next Episode us

Jonathan Correia (18:45):
Episode Six the ugly ladies of wrestling
where each person had to createan ugly lady of wrestling
inspired by the women'swrestlers of the 80s featured in
the Gorgeous Ladies ofWrestling. Of course. This was
an interesting one because lasttime they did a fighting episode
was the Muppet fights and seasonone where they just went fucking
ham on each other especiallyMelissa B. Fierce, who like just

(19:09):
was wailing on her opponents. Soeveryone kind of went into it
thinking like, oh, yeah, we'regonna be like beating the shit
out of each other. But it waswrestling which is, which is a
dance

Waylon Jordan (19:19):
Its choreographed.

Jonathan Correia (19:21):
It's all fake.
Well, I mean, not all entirelyfake, but like you're not
actually hitting people. Likeyou're doing stunt work and
whatnot. It's it was veryinteresting to see how they
paired up and how they pairedoff and then all sudden, they
realize like, oh, wait, shit,we're not facing each other.
We're working with each other,which led to some interesting
stuff like Asturd and Melissapairing up because suddenly they
were against each other, butlike that energy worked really

(19:43):
well on their performance, youknow,

Waylon Jordan (19:46):
and this was the episode where I thought Melissa
felt it. She was just really inher element. Like she totally
ate that shit up. Her look wasfantastic for this

Jonathan Correia (19:59):
that China inspired look. Oh

Waylon Jordan (20:02):
yeah. I mean, she was she was phenomenal. Her look
was fantastic. Her performancewas amazing. I don't know, I was
really knocked out by Melissa inthis one.

Jonathan Correia (20:12):
Everything about it was great. I tend to be
a little biased because it isCoco. But Coco stole the show
with her performance be with hergiant fucking giant titties

Lindsey (20:23):
Big bodacious queen.

Jonathan Correia (20:25):
She said they were like double Z's or
something like, but outside ofthe like, you know, very large
butt and boobs. It wasn't awhole lot to her look, except
for like the hair. The hair wasphenomenal, though, especially
with the wig reveal.

Waylon Jordan (20:40):
Oh, yeah. That snatched wig with another wig
under it was fantastic. It wasbeautiful.

Lindsey (20:47):
Her look was incomplete because of sabotage. Maybe?

Jonathan Correia (20:51):
I don't know.
But either way, she still tookwhat she had. And she sold it.
You know, it's one of those andthey bring it up in in a few
episodes, especially EpisodeSeven. But there's times where
like, props or a dress or piece.
You either wear it or it wearsyou and Coco knows how to work
very large titties, of course.
And she did. And when her andVictoria start fucking in the

(21:11):
back. That was one of thefunniest things that was so camp

Lindsey (21:16):
highlight of television for this year. Yeah.

Jonathan Correia (21:19):
It was just fantastic. I mean, yeah, but
that was one of those caseswhere like a performance can
save a look that was a bitlacking because outside of the
titties wasn't too much to it.

Waylon Jordan (21:29):
Well, you know, and as soon as I saw Victoria
out there rubbing on thatphallic thing out in front of
her. I was like, Oh, this isgonna be something

Jonathan Correia (21:41):
codpiece.

Waylon Jordan (21:42):
Yes. Yes, the codpiece the COCK piece. I'm
sorry. That was like a wholecockpit. But yeah, like I was
like, wow. Okay. Well, somebodydidn't come to wrestle.

Lindsey (21:56):
I definitely love seeing that side of Victoria,
too. I feel like that's a side Ihaven't seen of her before.

Waylon Jordan (22:01):
Oh, yeah. She really kind of cut loose and
really kind of like, I didn'tknow there was this this quality
about her energy that we yeah,we never see that from her.

Lindsey (22:11):
And even just like the look like she doesn't
necessarily does she doesn'thave to go beautiful a lot of
things but feel like it's a lotof aesthetically pleasing type
stuff. And like this characterwill just kind of really the
epitome of just going outside ofher comfort zone.

Jonathan Correia (22:25):
Now, the two bottom looks were also two that
were paired together, which wasHoso and Eva, another
demonstration of the theater kidgiven an opportunity to do a
performance and not nailing it.
I mean Eva's look was okay, likeit was fine. But like when she
was talking about like reallybringing out her legs, she
didn't go as hard with it as Ithought she was and the pants

(22:46):
that she wore before the revealwere ugly. They were just ugly.
Those were pants I would wearand that's saying a lot

Lindsey (22:53):
if by thespian Eva means the the person who's
walking down the high schoolcorridor just like screaming
their fucking head off just likemaking the most attention for
themselves. Yeah, she's the besthas been to the mall. Just like
screaming at the stage. But interms of her performance, very
lacking. And I was honestlyextremely disappointed to get in
Oh, so like I watched again, Iwatched this episode for a

(23:14):
second time and just watchingher just kind of like flit
across the arena and then try totake a bite. It was just like
you didn't pay attention at allto any of the practice sessions
you all were doing. And I don'tunderstand why she can keep
going through this but not havethe performance down. She just
not listening to instructionsaround performance.

Jonathan Correia (23:32):
Yeah, it was very lacking. It was very
understandable why they were inthe bottom. I mean, we got
honestly more of a performanceout of Coco's straw than those
two in the ring. I didn't knowthat we were gonna get a follow
up of cocoa versus and aninanimate object. But we did in
episode one we had cocoa versusquil. Episode Six, we had Coco

(23:54):
versus straw, where we see herstruggling because she puts her
drink on her giant s titties.
And she's struggling with herstraws trying to pick up with
her nails.

Lindsey (24:04):
Alicia was able to get the straw with her nails like
that was not the case. That wasimpressive.

Jonathan Correia (24:08):
And then she ultimately pours it all over
herself while Eva and Hoso arelike, being super dramatic and
all that and even goes into herwhole like I'm Eva fucking
Destruction. Okay. And I lovethat Hoso did that little call
back to Willow, Willow Treebeing like, and I mean, well Oh,
no, I'm just like trying tosteal her thunder.

Lindsey (24:29):
And I'm Hoso of of distraction,

Jonathan Correia (24:31):
which ultimately led to the two of
them going up the mountainstanding up top waiting for the
trapdoor to stop or drop, Stop,drop block bopping or whatever,
and then no one falls? Dramatic.

Waylon Jordan (24:45):
I don't understand. I really don't. I
mean, they're like, there willbe consequences for saving you
later. Why save one of them? Whyhave consequences? Why not just
get rid of one of them at thispoint? You know,

Lindsey (24:56):
my problem is is that whenever they're saying, Oh, you
didn't follow Though directionsyou didn't do the look correctly
for other people, you know andnot Hoso. So then there's actual
consequences where they getkicked out the show, like I'm
thinking about when Coco goes tothe bottom, and I'm spoiling the
next episode, but when she's inEpisode Seven, she goes to the
bottom, because she didn't fullyhit the task ahead of her. And

(25:21):
but her outfit was amazing wasfantastic. I love the look
entirely. But then Hoso InEpisode Six, like she just
doesn't follow through with whatshe used to be doing share
performance was terrible. Thelook wasn't that great, in my
opinion. And she suddenly justgets kept in, because they
decided to bend the rules. Idon't understand this. I just
don't I don't. I feel like itjust fits whenever The Boulets

(25:44):
just don't think somebody'sready to go yet?

Waylon Jordan (25:45):
Well, and it seems like yeah, the Bouletss
are just making it up as theygo. I mean, you know, I don't
think so. I mean, there must besome kind of plan for all of
this. But at the same time, itdoes come across with like, oh,
well, we decided this week,we're not going to send anyone
home because everyone workedreally hard or whatever. And
like, I don't get it. I don'tget it. I mean, you have to

(26:06):
eliminate people. I mean, thisis the second time the first
time we did this. We had AborhaYeah. Came back. And then now
they're doing it again. So Idon't know. It does

Lindsey (26:19):
make good TV. Like it's exciting and surprising. And so
I think that's, you know, a bigpart of it, for sure. But I
don't know, it just kind offeels a little bit like Boulets
have favorites that they'repushing through.

Jonathan Correia (26:30):
It's hard to I don't know if it's hard to keep
up or more so it kind of takesyou out of it when you see the
hands pulling the strings a bittoo much. I think that was one
of the problems I had I'm havingwith the keeping people around.
Again, if at the top of EpisodeTwo, they had said, you don't
get to decide who goes home wedo. Then it's like, oh, shit you

(26:53):
were just faking everyone outwith that voting out and now
there's going to be drama, butinstead we just got the trick
for you treat for me, you know,which is which was lame. And
then with this when you see thehands a bit too much again and
it's I take it does take it outa little bit. That being said, I
am glad to that neither of themwent home. I think they're both

(27:13):
great and strong performers andI'm really excited for what they
do next, especially Eva becauseof the next episode. She fucking
killed it with that sea monstersof the deep episode, which was a
lot of fun. I mean, we get tosee the fake out of everyone
thinking Hoso went home for aminute and Eva just eating that
up. Oh my gosh, she

Lindsey (27:33):
she's a thespian,

Jonathan Correia (27:34):
she's like this my oppertunity to act. And
you could see on Coco's facelike Coco just like in the back
because the cameras on Hashmisee Coco just be like no go

Lindsey (27:43):
Coco doesn't believe her for one second. She's like,
what something is going on here.

Waylon Jordan (27:47):
Coco was literally looking over her
shoulder waiting for Hoso tocome to the

Lindsey (27:51):
meeting. Absolutely.
She

Jonathan Correia (27:52):
knew she she read Coco is really good at
reading people

Lindsey (27:56):
she really is.

Jonathan Correia (27:57):
So with this creatures of the deep episode I
know we haven't really talkedabout the fright feats. And five
and six. That's because theywere all right in a little brain
eating a little arm wrestling.
It's all cute, eating grossstuff and armwrestling to see
who's the weakest one out of agroup of people who all have
skinny arms. You know, that'salways fun and entertaining, but
this week's fright feat wasfucking horrendous.

Lindsey (28:19):
Terrifying oh my god,

Jonathan Correia (28:21):
they had to go into a tunnel where at the end
there's a gate and they had towork on a combination lock and
then all of a sudden this thewalls inflated so that they
couldn't move as the tube getslowered into water would that
they couldn't escape and theyhad to do they like code in
amount Time which honestly theywere just like dunking the shit
out of them and likewaterboarding and basically

Waylon Jordan (28:42):
well that's what I was thinking I was like we're
about to watch waterboarding onDragula

Jonathan Correia (28:48):
that is what we watched

Lindsey (28:49):
watched as somebody who's a bit claustrophobic and
also like can't hold theirbreath underwater for very long
like I was having like a panicattack just watching them be
held in place underwater, justfully like screaming and like
carrying around and like notknowing when it was opening up
again, like when they would befree. Like it was very scary.
And I don't think i would have

Waylon Jordan (29:10):
be dunked just once or if it was gonna happen
multiple times. And yeah, thatwas pretty terrifying

Lindsey (29:16):
The lock was definitely a like the lock didn't really
actually mean anything. I don'tthink I think they just wanted
to dunk them at the end becausethen they just were released
afterwards but trying to thinkthat you had a task to do and
then this all this happening andnot knowing if you had to solve
the lock problem before he canget out like pretty terrifying.

Jonathan Correia (29:33):
No, it was definitely a fright feat that
they were they kind of trickedhim into thinking oh, you have a
task when really We're justgonna be dunking you which is
horrendous but I mean likeThat's old school of those
challenges. You know, that'sthat's Dragula. That is hardcore
Dragula. Don't get me wrong.
That's probably the mosthardcore thing they put people
through but I definitely lovewhen they get back to the

(29:55):
boudoir and Coco is says theline. I'm a professional at
drowning. What the fuck did thatmean Coco Yeah. Like you don't
just say I'm a professional atdrowning bitch, what? No.

Lindsey (30:07):
But it was really good that like when she explained her
story about how she had almostdrowned as a child. And then she
No, and I'm really glad that shegot to work on that as, as we've
went, came back and said thatDragula is really good at
helping you face your fears andput them out into the open and
really forced you to come toterms with those. And so she's
really intimately feeling thatof this is a fear that I have, I
had to directly face this if Iwant to continue this

(30:27):
competition. And that's justwhat drag is really good at
seen others work through theirfears in previous seasons, you
know, it was definitelyinspiring to see that being said
that was a fucked up thing theydid. But I'm glad production I'm
sure had safety measures to makesure everyone, you know, got out
alive and was fine. So let'stalk looks

Waylon Jordan (30:50):
Hagfish Hagfish fish

Lindsey (30:53):
had totally had fishes.
No, I

Waylon Jordan (30:56):
totally a hagfish. Can't you tell them I'm
a hagfish I was like, Are

Lindsey (31:00):
you really, really Korean thing. It's very
surprising that people outsideof Korea have no idea what this
hagfish is.

Jonathan Correia (31:07):
So my look is inspired by this thing that is
only eaten by people in this oneregion of the world and is only
found there. And here I am in anarea where it's not that area,
and everyone's confused on whatI am, I don't get it. I don't
get it.

Waylon Jordan (31:25):
And not only am I going to dress as a hagfish but
I'm going to wear this likepants and heels with it. Like I
didn't get that part of the lookeither. I mean, I love Hoso but
come on black QC that waspushing it that was really

Lindsey (31:41):
touching that in ink an incomplete look like if you take
all of your effort and do it inthe top half it has a bit of
like the Hoso aesthetic, youknow the makeup and has like,
I've really liked the finsaround the head. That was
interesting. But for the mostpart, it was just like the
effort went to the top half noeffort in the bottom half. And
that was said to be a completelook. I don't know

Jonathan Correia (32:03):
we've had that critique before of Hoso having
too much going on. And with thisone it was not enough. There
wasn't that good middle groundbetween the two the I love the
slime what she was doing withthe sign was very great. It was
awesome. Her just like lickingit up and like rubbing it
everywhere. That was fantastic.
But in the hands big fan of thehands, but the heels were just

(32:23):
inappropriate for like what thelook was going for. There was
some work done on the pants, butit was just like, too obvious
that it was painted orsomething. Yeah, it was it was
like some like tentacle holes orsomething.

Lindsey (32:38):
I don't know y'all I'm feeling very testy that Coco is
in the bottom to this time andso now I'm just looking back at
all these looks and comparingthem to what she had done was
saying that she wasn't completein her look when Hoso absolutely
was not completed her look Idon't know it's just very
confusing why she was in thebottom two

Waylon Jordan (32:55):
well and they were talking about they didn't
get sea monster from it and Ican see that to an extent but I
don't know I don't know thatthat was very strange

Lindsey (33:06):
things going on like the site not horse human
creature and the gender play itall was very Dragula thought but
it just wasn't scary enough Iguess I get that she was doing a
more of a sexy performanceshould have been more scary or
something.

Jonathan Correia (33:22):
I think all those critiques were a bit much
for the most part the one Ithink the one that was valid was
that it wasn't nautical enough Iguess you know it needed a bit

Lindsey (33:31):
fins all over though.
She had

Jonathan Correia (33:32):
like add it a little bit more because there
was there except for like a fewlike stuff on the like armor
pieces which there wasn't awhole lot from the armor pieces
covering her. There wasn't awhole lot of aquatic stuff. And
it was very, you know, RoadWarrior esque, but I loved the
idea of a road warrior likeunder underwater Road Warrior I
was so here for that. I agreewith the critique that she just

(33:57):
needed something like a tridentor a net or just like a couple
more pieces to really sell thatunderwater or deepwater look and
then she could have been abadass Road Warrior of Atlantis

Lindsey (34:08):
like it was still like an underwater look. It wasn't as
underwater as it should be. Butwhen we're talking about going
outside the box and beingcreative and showing like
different gender and creativeexpressions and then we have
Victoria being a scary fishwhich is great. Like it was a
good look but very inside thebox and then you have just and

(34:28):
then back to Hoso again just Iguess it's a it's a fish its
hagfish it's doing its Hoso as afish but only half done, but
also very inside the box asdidn't see as much creativity
here except for like Eva's whichEva's was extremely creative.

Waylon Jordan (34:44):
You know, well even Yeah, she knocked it out of
the park. That was that was anamazing look.

Jonathan Correia (34:49):
Eva

Lindsey (34:49):
it was exciting to watch

Jonathan Correia (34:51):
you know some people complain that they were
like, well what is she I guessthere was some clam I guess
there was some like jellyfish.
That's what I loved about Eva'slook is that it was an
amalgamation of all these thingsshe had the shape of a jellyfish
but opened up like a clam, butacted like one of those like
underwater creatures with thelight in it. There was the
beauty to pull you in. And thenthe monster that was within it
was it was a great combinationof everything without just being

(35:14):
one thing. Like she wasn't justlike an evil claim or something.
You know, she was. She was Evathe underwater the deep water
monster and it was

Waylon Jordan (35:25):
fantastic. And then there was mermaid fins and
Melissa. Yeah, John, go ahead.

Lindsey (35:38):
Melissa's wasn't perfect. But I I saw Melissa in
there was like Melissa'saesthetic, which I think was

Waylon Jordan (35:44):
Yeah, totally oh

Lindsey (35:45):
really kind of shot down a bit hard for being like
what she does and what she isgood at. It just didn't add up
to what everybody else wasdoing. I love the light play
with like the extra stuff thatshe had attached to her outfit
just was the dress itself. Buteven the prosthetics, like the
prosthetics are pretty scary.
Just on her face, theycompletely covered her face.

Waylon Jordan (36:03):
They were scary.
But at the same time, there wasthat beauty that glamour look,
you know, and that's what Iloved so much about it, because
it really did the face andeverything there was such, like,
it was pretty at the same time.
It was scary. And then she got,you know, dragged over the coals
because she used basic sort ofmermaid material to sort of make

(36:25):
a gown, instead of you know,doing something more spectacular
for the body work.

Jonathan Correia (36:30):
The look wasn't terrible. It was just a
very early episode. Look, ifthat makes if that makes sense.
That seems like the type of lookthat would get you safe when
there's like nine othercompetitors, you know, right
now, that was fine. Don't usethat fabric ever again, though.
But for like, what are we in thefinal five or six, like you
can't

Lindsey (36:50):
mean it could have what she was trying to do, she could
have been trying to write themiddle because she has been
going through a lot of mentalturmoil, these last couple of
episodes. So something that justkind of like kept her there and
kept her going, as she wassaying that she was already
thinking about quitting. So justsomething that maybe it wasn't
on her brain to win thisepisode, but just to be able to
get through

Jonathan Correia (37:09):
maybe and I mean, in that could have
backfired because she talkedabout and they'd recapped it at
the beginning of the episodeabout how her husband left her
the week prior to coming on tothe show. So she still had all
that weighing on her andprobably wasn't processing it.
And I'm sure all the dramawhether it's the love triangle,
Asturd being a brat or just kindof everyone being two face and

(37:30):
like, all this stuff.

Waylon Jordan (37:31):
Hoso being Hoso

Jonathan Correia (37:35):
not only all that, but like we have to
remember that these peoplearen't just putting on a brand
new fully conceptualized dragperformance with a new look,
trying to find the challengeeach week, but they're also
dealing with the reality show TVproduction. Like there's a lot
going on. So I don't faultMelissa for when she is in the

(37:56):
bottom this week, kind of beinglike you know what? I'm gonna
tell everyone Fuck you. Fuckyou. Fuck you. You're okay. Fuck
you and bouncing because I couldsee when she was entering in. I
mean, I feel like she wasprocessing a lot of stuff with
the wrestling episode. And likewas really there because she
knew what she wanted from it.
And maybe with this one, it wasjust kind of like, she couldn't
quite maybe piece everythingtogether and everything was just

(38:18):
kind of get to her. So she didthe best she could and then was
just like, You know what? I'm inthe bottom with my friend. I
want her to keep going. I'm out.
Which is a first and I wish theBlue Lace did not spoil that on
their podcast. I really wishthey hadn't said that someone
was gonna quit. Becauseremember, I think Lindsey you
and I were sitting there on likeEpisode Five and six going wait,

(38:39):
so what hasn't quit yet didn'tthey mentioned on the podcast?
Oh my God.

Lindsey (38:44):
And the second that episode opened up with like, a
reminder that Melissa's husbandleft her We looked at each
other. We're like, oh my god isMelissa leaving this episode.
God damn it. No,

Jonathan Correia (38:55):
I think you started saying that and I went
shut up. I won't believe it.
You did? You're like, shut up.
Like Jon.
No, I don't want to hear

Lindsey (39:02):
Yeah, there to get through it.

Waylon Jordan (39:04):
I you know, I get her wanting
to quit. I get her even having a

Jonathan Correia (39:05):
I get it meltdown. Because yeah, she's
been going through a lot. What Ihad the biggest problem with is
that in her meltdown, there wasno responsibility on her own.
And I'm sorry. Yeah, everybodyin there. First of all, if
you're coming in on a dragcompetition show and you don't

(39:25):
expect drama and backbiting andall this other stuff that she
seemed to have such a problemwith through the entire season.
I'm not sure why you're there.
You know, if you if you don'twant to deal with that, you know
that that's going to be part ofwhat you're dealing with every
day. The second thing is, she'snot innocent of all of that. I
mean, she's been in the middleof it, too. She's been saying

(39:48):
her own stuff. She in the firstepisode, she was like, we're
gonna make an alliance and we'regonna do this and we're gonna do
that, you know, and was rightthere in the beginning
separating people out and therewas just no responsibility on
her side. things as she washaving her meltdown and telling
everybody else that they wereawful people. And I think that
was my biggest part of it.

Lindsey (40:08):
I think she kind of came at it with the perspective
that it is a game. And so shewas trying to gamify it. And you
know, with the trying to putpeople into alliances, the
beginning, that's kind of astrategic way of going about it.
And then there's a little bitmore beyond just gamifying, in
which personalities clash, youhave actual friendships,

(40:31):
relationships forming. Andthere's actual real life stuff
that goes on here that you can'treally just gamify in the way
that easily put it into rulesand sides and things like that,
that might be in other kinds ofgame shows. And so maybe it's
just like a different realitycheck on what goes on in reality
shows I guess, but I mean, shedid reference a lot about what

(40:55):
might be going on outside ofwhat we're seeing filmed that
she had referenced a lot ofAsturd talking down to
production in one way righthere. And that's all stuff that
we just don't see on camera andso I'm wondering how much might
be going on there that she justwitnessing or how much of the
interactions are all havingbehind screen so there it seems

(41:16):
like there's just a lot going onalso, or Victoria

Jonathan Correia (41:19):
to both Melissa said that Victoria went
to the Boulets, to say thatthere were competitors that were
throwing their looks togetherthe day prior day of which
included Coco

Lindsey (41:30):
Victoria. Snitches get stitches. Okay, yeah, what

Waylon Jordan (41:35):
and this particular show might actually
walk away with stitches. Soyeah,

Lindsey (41:41):
the why is she talking the Boulets about anything? I'm
so confused. And also why is ita problem if they're like
finishing up their stuff? Likebefore the performance is done
before the performance?

Jonathan Correia (41:49):
It's one of those things where it's I mean,
that concern it's been broughtup in the past and previous
seasons, people just throwingstuff together been thrown
around this this season. If weremember, what is that? What is
Aborha? Is she a broomstick? Oris she an alien? Is she a witch,
you know, that's been thrownaround with the production
thing. We saw a little bit of itduring the medieval episode of

(42:11):
the D&D episode with theinteractions with the director
and stuff and Asturd was accusedof going not letting the
director do their thing. AndEva, just having them, you know,
break down a bit. So I mean,yeah, there's a lot that we
don't see that's going on,there's a lot that's on the
editing floor, there's a lotthat's not, it doesn't even make
it onto camera that we're notseeing. And again, there's a lot

(42:31):
to go on. I understand that whenyou're in that moment, and
you're having that Fuck you,Fuck you, you're cool. Fuck you
moment that you're not going tolike announce your own partic-
your own participation in it.
You're not going to also go,Well, no, I was a dick with this
too. So like, you're not you'regoing to be on you're going to
be on the offense. But I thinkone of the best moments that

(42:52):
happen with all that is Cocostanding up and saying no, I
need to go check on my friend.
There's someone you know, wetalked about sisterhood with
this, we talked about beingthere for each other. And like
when Melissa left, everyone hada comment that made it about
themselves, except for Coco.
Coco was the one that went outand talked with her and chatted
with her. That's when Melissawas saying like, you know what,

(43:12):
no, I'm, I just, I can't dealwith this. I can't do this
anymore. I need to go home, Idon't want to be here anymore.
And I want you to keep goingwith that it makes sense.
There's there's certain pointswhere like, all this stuff,
because again, it's it's you'reputting on it. You're
conceptualizing and creating abrand new drag show every week,
you have to give the realityshow drama every week, you have

(43:34):
to deal with productionschedules, which I work in, they
suck especially in reality showsthe work in production is
fucking hard, dude, it's it's atleast 12 hour days, and then you
so you're doing all that stuffto get the footage and the
boudoir and then you got to gohome and work on your look even
more, you got to work on yourroutine even more, you got to do
life stuff to like that's,that's got to be a lot. And then

(43:56):
to have that, that your husbandleft you have that going on
outside. And whatever else is, Ithink it was season three or
season four, there was acontestant whose cat died, you
know, and like a few otherthings happen outside and they
were off for their game. Likeit's a lot when you don't have
that stability at home to alsobe dealing with the demands of

(44:16):
making a reality show. So again,I don't blame her. I wish she
didn't go out this way. Butthat's just because I love
Melissa. I think she's such agreat performer, great
competitor, and I wish I couldhave seen more from her. And
that sucks that she now hasthat. I don't I don't know.
Because of her situation thatstigma that she's the first to

(44:36):
quit or the is the one who quit.
But she does have that title nowand that sucks, man.

Lindsey (44:44):
Yeah, definitely. But to your point also about her
husband leaving her that's likereal legitimate drama. stuff is
going on her life. And so thenwhen everything is just so
extremely petty in the boudoir,and just like things go on,
they're just like, this isn'treal life, folks. Why are we
behaving like this, it's doesn'tmake any sense. This isn't like
what I'm dealing with in my reallife. So let's just like move on

(45:07):
past this, but people just don'tmove on past it. very childish.

Jonathan Correia (45:11):
So now that was episode seven, Melissa is
gone. And we have

Lindsey (45:18):
I want to mention real quick oh yes when Alyssa is
gone, but when she did the droplike any other person who leaves
this this season, and theBoulets didn't change the script
at all, like there was noacknowledgement from them at all
that show quit instead of beingkicked out forcefully. So I
don't I another problem I'mhaving right now is let's

(45:40):
acknowledge that she decided toleave and let Coco stay. And the
Boulets made it seem like we'vedecided that you're not fit to
continue on with Dragula. And sowe're going to send you back
into the deep and so I don't Iwish that you all

Waylon Jordan (45:53):
think that we'll address that in the next
episode. We know that Queenswill in one way or another but
likely will

Lindsey (45:59):
in doubt Boulets

Waylon Jordan (46:00):
will the Boulets?

Jonathan Correia (46:02):
I know in previous these I think it was
the one where in the firstseason when the contestant
didn't go in the plane? Or isthat season two, I think it was
season two, two, they were verypissed about it in the next
episode. And they're like, ifyou're not going to participate,
blah, blah, blah, you know, Ijust remember is that someone
did something and they came backin the next episode. And they're
like, how fucking dare thatperson? They're gone. They're

(46:22):
less involved on screen thanthey were in the earlier seasons
with this. So I don't know. Ifeel like there was a lot of
decisions made to stick to thescript. A. I think it's easier
as sticks with the format andthe formula of how the episodes
play out. I think it's also abit of a cop out to kind of

(46:44):
avoid any, I don't want to sayto avoid any responsibility of
involvement of someone quitting,but maybe to just like maybe not
address it.

Lindsey (46:53):
It'd be so easy for them to be like, Melissa, you
have chosen not to continue onto becoming the Dragula's next
super monster. We will now sendyou into the deep. Yeah,

Jonathan Correia (47:04):
yeah, I think addressing it a little bit would
have maybe been a bit better

Lindsey (47:08):
if it changing the script for a lot of things, but
not that. Yeah. Anyway, that'sjust a little critique I have
there for you. Boulets. No, Ilove you don't burn me to a
crisp.

Waylon Jordan (47:20):
We haven't talked about any of the guest judges
for this round. But like, can wejust stop and appreciate for a
moment that like BarbaraCrampton still looks amazing.
Like, like, I don't know how oldshe is now, but she looks like
she did 20 years ago. I loveBarbara Crampton. And she was
absolutely gorgeous on thatepisode with Tananarive Due for

(47:43):
the prom episode. I loved thatand loved seeing them there
together for that.

Jonathan Correia (47:47):
They were both fantastic. And yeah, Barbara
Crampton is a forever crush forme. Like I remember being a kid
and watching From Beyond way tooyoung on like, Who is this lady
and then later on watchingRe-Animator just be like, What
are you doing to her? But yeah,she's always great. They were

(48:08):
such fantastic hosts and I loveTananarive Due I love her she's
great with her classes on HorrorShe did some amazing features
for Candyman such great insighton film and its representation
and everything she, those twoare one of the things that I
love when people are guestjudges on this, but I hate that

(48:30):
they don't get to discuss likemore like, you know what I mean?
Like I wish

Waylon Jordan (48:33):
like what they're actually about. Like, I

Jonathan Correia (48:36):
wish the Boulets would do like an after
talk show of just like, hey,these were the guest judges on
this episode and we're justgoing to interview them about
their lives. That would befantastic. I would I would love
that especially them on

Lindsey (48:45):
the podcast, right?

Jonathan Correia (48:47):
I mean, we've tried to get Barbara on before
Barbara if you're listening. No,

Lindsey (48:51):
no, I'm saying the Boulets should have these judges
on their podcast and kind ofchat about it there

Jonathan Correia (48:56):
1,000% I think they should do follow ups and
then just discuss them forwrestling. We had Poppy and
Katya.

Lindsey (49:02):
Yes, please say the last name say last name.

Jonathan Correia (49:08):
I don't know Poppy's. Last name she just says
the one name

Lindsey (49:10):
Tatiana Tatiana's emo chick over

Jonathan Correia (49:15):
Zamolo she could go over I can't I'm sorry.

Lindsey (49:22):
Sorry Katya we love you.

Jonathan Correia (49:24):
Fucking love Katya. She did not let anybody
go that episode? She came aftereveryone. What was the line was
about the shoes. I think it wasSwanthula was like she's like,
Yeah, I you know, I don't likeyour thing. She's like, I want
to put you in jail for yourshoes.

Lindsey (49:41):
She was like for Hoso in her boots. She was like I'm
gonna put you under house arrestfor your gogo boots. I'll still
fuck you though.

Jonathan Correia (49:48):
Right? Because that was her whole bid. She's
like, girl, you should be injail for those shoes. How dare
you you're a psychopath arrest.
It was to Asturd Yeah cuz Asturdhad on those shoes. She's like,
How dare you you should be inprison. Is

Lindsey (50:00):
it oh, that's another thing Yeah, she said she's a
lunatic for those shoes.

Jonathan Correia (50:04):
house arrest but I'll still fuck you Jesus
Christ.

Lindsey (50:07):
That definitely makes me want to watch their show.
What show is that?

Jonathan Correia (50:11):
Katya has a great YouTube series where it's
her and Trixie Mattel

Waylon Jordan (50:15):
Mattel Yeah, that's

Lindsey (50:16):
right. I gotta watch that.

Jonathan Correia (50:18):
I need to catch up. I mostly just watched
clips from it, but those two arejust they're so fucking funny. I
need to rewatch Katya critiquesfrom this episode she flat out
some bangers

Lindsey (50:29):
we forgot about the ultimate banger though in that
episode. Coco saying gay

Jonathan Correia (50:35):
Oh my guys did you know how did we miss this
guys? Guys Guys, Coco liked mytweet. Well, because the whole
episode like three times in theepisode, Coco was just in the
back and just GAY! Just justlike beautiful Ken Jeon's
character and community and soright after the episode

(50:57):
premiered I shared the GIF ofKen Jeon going GAY! it was just
like Coco the entire episode.
She liked it guys

Lindsey (51:05):
she liked it

Jonathan Correia (51:07):
validation! I could wrap this podcast up we
don't need to do anything moreCoco liked when we wanted

Waylon Jordan (51:17):
we just wanted someone to validate our
feelings.

Lindsey (51:20):
Specifically Coco

Jonathan Correia (51:23):
Specifically, and then yeah, for the guest
judges in the seventh episode wehad two returning competitors we
had Saint and Dalhi which wasalways Fantastic

Lindsey (51:32):
my favorites right? Waylon

Waylon Jordan (51:34):
oh come on now when but when the Boulets looked
at Dalhi was like after $100,000and you still can't buy a
fucking wig? Yeah, I died

Jonathan Correia (51:48):
you died at that comment? I died at Dalhi's
Non-read of again because Idon't wear wigs is it was just
such a non response like youwould think that she would have
said something clever but no,it's Dalhi. She She just you
know yeah, she's just verycreative and very pretty.

Lindsey (52:09):
Honestly, I think Dalhi won the look competition for
that episode. Absolutelybeautiful. Yeah, coloring face
and with her little spots on itand the metallic face armor. So
beautiful.

Jonathan Correia (52:23):
I think I refered to it as like a heavy
metal face Tierra.

Lindsey (52:26):
Yeah, that's what it was.

Jonathan Correia (52:30):
And Saint was gorgeous. Again,

Lindsey (52:32):
I love Saint and wants to see more of see more of Saint
going back

Jonathan Correia (52:35):
to Coco's read of oh, that's rich Saint saying
I was too slow. Not enoughenergy in my performance.

Lindsey (52:45):
Fugu Beautiful beautiful.

Jonathan Correia (52:46):
So we have our top five right? predictions. How
are we feeling about our topfive we got Eva, we got Hoso We
got Coco, Asturd, and Victoria.

Lindsey (52:57):
I like how they gave their predictions in this
episode was kind of telling tosee who they thought would go to
the end.

Jonathan Correia (53:03):
Yeah, from what it sounded like. No one
thought Asturd and Eva weregonna make it but then Eva won
that competition won that weekso I mean, what who you guys
thinking top three?

Lindsey (53:13):
My top predictions,

Jonathan Correia (53:15):
predictions and then walks if they're
different?

Lindsey (53:18):
Well, I think it's going to be Coco. Victoria. And
Asturd, really? It was just avery weird for me to say really

Jonathan Correia (53:25):
She hasn't won a single cometition.

Lindsey (53:28):
Asturd?

Jonathan Correia (53:28):
Yeah. She doesn't want a single week.

Lindsey (53:29):
I think her looks have just been escalating. I want to
say Eva, but I think she's goingto self destruct. And Hoso I am
extremely I'm just so annoyed ather right now that i can't
comprehend her getting to theend. I'm very tired of it. I
just don't want that to happenanymore. I would rather her
leave. So that's what I want toget the the end I guess.

Jonathan Correia (53:52):
I also feel like Hoso's looks have not been
strong the last few weeks.

Lindsey (53:57):
She has like her one looked down. And she keeps doing
doing riffs off of it. Andpeople just accept that. Oh, is
this Hoso doing something? So itmust be amazing when it's due to
some critique? Let's open her upfor critiques

Jonathan Correia (54:10):
Waylon?

Waylon Jordan (54:14):
Ah,

Lindsey (54:17):
it's a very difficult question.

Jonathan Correia (54:19):
It is. That's why I'm having you guys go first

Waylon Jordan (54:22):
going on Victoria, Coco. Eva, I think
those other two are going toself destruct. I think it's
gonna come down to it. And Ithink Eva's gonna pull through.
I think that Eva when everybodyexpects her to go, pulls out
something amazing almost everytime and I don't know. That's

(54:42):
where I'm sitting right now.
That's who I think the top threeis going to be. Yeah. And also,
who I want the top three to be.
So I'm good with that.

Jonathan Correia (54:50):
Yeah, I mean, it's we're definitely at a point
in the competition where a badweek gets you out hard. Yeah.
Even if you're a strongperformer and we saw that with
these last two episodes thosewere very strong performers that
just had very rough weeks I mean

Lindsey (55:04):
Eva, Eva did not do well in the wrestling
competition, which is anotherreason why I think that she is
going to self destruct there'sgonna be a point where she
thinks she's doing okay. And shegets like

Jonathan Correia (55:14):
she had a very safe look that week. But again,
there's no room for safe anymore

Waylon Jordan (55:18):
you know, there's there's not enough room for not
in this in this few competitors.
There's there's no place forsafety right now. They've got to
go out.

Lindsey (55:26):
I don't even think it was safe. I think it was lazy. I
mean, she just focused on theseleg prosthetics that weren't
even big enough. I mean, it wasit was cool. It was great. I
don't know. I thought

Jonathan Correia (55:37):
it was great.
I'm a big fan of what she doeswith their lives and stuff. I'm
sorry. I just it sounds like Iwas dismissing you. I was
sitting there going like why isno one praising to your Face
make up? Because it was reallygreat. I don't know if it read
wrestler as much but

Lindsey (55:50):
Well, then why don't you go marry her face makeup?
God.

Jonathan Correia (55:55):
I just want I just want someone to do that for
me.

Lindsey (56:00):
Well, speaking of face makeup, it's Coco. Riding the
Coco train so hard. Hilda whitemark so she's doing along her
face? Just like the highlighterperfection. The perfection?
Yeah. Top three, Jon.

Jonathan Correia (56:14):
Top three is Coco.

Lindsey (56:19):
Say it, spit it out

Jonathan Correia (56:20):
like, I'm going through the photos of the
last one. But here's my thing. Ican honestly see everyone having
a breakdown. If that makessense. I feel like any five of
these are ready for that kind ofa meltdown bad week next week. I
feel like it's going to happen.
I feel like we're going to seesomeone very, very strong gone

(56:41):
next week, which is why it's

Lindsey (56:44):
I mean, everybody left is very strong. I think Melissa
like,was the one that was still kind
of teetering a little bit.
Everybody else is extremelystrong players

Jonathan Correia (56:52):
I know. And that's why I'm like, I mean,
like Victoria is. It's like theobvious choice, but I have a
feeling man, because she's doneit before. She's done it before
where she's gotten really close,and then just did something
where it was just like, Girl No.
And I mean, but yes, if we'regonna base it off of track
records and everything and notjust like impending feelings of

(57:13):
doom, I think it is going to beCoco. I think it is going to be
Victoria. And I'm gonna go withEva, mostly because Asturd can't
perform for shit. No,

Waylon Jordan (57:24):
and we all agree that Hoso is out.

Jonathan Correia (57:29):
My apologies, Asturd, that was a strong
critique.

Lindsey (57:31):
I changed her performance. She need to change
it up. Yeah, but I like it.

Jonathan Correia (57:35):
I thought what we saw of her because again, we
don't see their fullperformances. But what we saw of
the octopus in the beginningwhen she was swaying left and
right. I was like, Oh, I didn'teven recognize her. I was like,
Who the fuck is this? That isamazing. She is swaying like an
octopus on the floor. And thenthey showed her just like,
wapping around with them. Oh,yeah. Oh, God, girl you need,

(57:55):
you need to, I don't know, youneed to do some like Wii Zumba
or something. And learn some newmoves

Lindsey (58:01):
she does really good body movements. She's able to
like move around the stage anduse the stage quite well and do
these back bends and stuff,which I think is really
interesting. But she needs toread the character a bit more
and do do what the characterneeds.

Jonathan Correia (58:14):
I'm sad. We're not going to see something as
blasphemous as Melissa's filthperformance.

Lindsey (58:22):
Melissa didn't really bring that filth.

Jonathan Correia (58:24):
She didn't really bring it that season
until that moment, in which caseit was a total what? I wish
people would do more with that.
But I also think that that waslike the punk rock YouTube era
of Dragula before they had toadhere to like FCC regulations.
And,

Lindsey (58:39):
you know, so we have two more episodes left. Stay
tuned.

Jonathan Correia (58:43):
It's anyone's game. We got two contestants
that are supposed to go whichtwo? Or is there gonna be two
gone? They've done it beforewhere they did a top four
instead of a top 3 oh wait No,they said they would never do
that again.

Lindsey (58:53):
Well, we still have what they say when or nobody
went home yesterday.

Jonathan Correia (58:57):
Consequences

Lindsey (58:59):
consequences. We have consequences. Look forward to I
think if the consequences

Waylon Jordan (59:03):
bringing back Aborha, I'm going to be pissed.
That's all I'm saying. What

Lindsey (59:07):
Wouldn't that be funny though? Wouldn't that be gaggy?
Aborha is back!

Waylon Jordan (59:15):
If they bring her back, I'm off the podcast. I'm
just not gonna do it anymore.

Jonathan Correia (59:24):
Well, this has been great. I'm sorry that we
haven't been able to meet in awhile. But we got two episodes
left to this. I'm lookingforward to what's coming up
next. Let's hope that we getback to competition maybe calm
down on the drama a bit. Anyfinal thoughts before we get out
of here?

Lindsey (59:39):
I'm excited to see where we're heading with this.
And I think we you know, like wesaid there's a lot of strong
competitors and it's really coolto see, though, let's get
narrowed down to the top one,you know, like who is it gonna
be?

Waylon Jordan (59:51):
Yeah, and if this season has proven anything to
us, it's that we don't know therules. Obviously we don't know
what's really going On we everytime we think we have things
figured out, the Boulet Brotherspull something out that we
didn't expect. So yeah, I thinkit's a wild card game for the
rest of this season.

Jonathan Correia (01:00:10):
Cheers to the Boulets for keeping the spirit
of early 2000s Trash reality TValive. No where else are we
getting stuff like this we aregetting Flavor of Love level
reality drop. Oh, beautiful.
Yeah,

Lindsey (01:00:25):
it's only thing keeping us going in this year 2022

Jonathan Correia (01:00:28):
remember that contest and spit on the other
one on Flavor of Love. That wasinsane. Anywho so thank you all
for coming for another episodeof talking Titans a one off of
Eye On Horror, the officialpodcast of iHorror.com. You can
find us on any of the Eye OnHorror social media accounts.

(01:00:50):
We're on Twitter, Facebook,Instagram. Lindsey where can we
find you if you want to befound?

Lindsey (01:00:57):
I am managing all set accounts. So send me a message
on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,and say hi

Jonathan Correia (01:01:03):
don't look up our personal ones their boring.
Waylon? Where can we find you onsocial media

Waylon Jordan (01:01:07):
Instagram Wavelan.Jordan, WaylonVox1 on
Twitter and also Off LimitsPress on Twitter. That is where
you'll find my publishingcompany. And you can check out
our latest book, which isDivergent Terror, and it is a
collection of essays from queerauthors from around the world
talking about their relationshipto the horror genre. Check it

(01:01:30):
out. It's really cool,

Jonathan Correia (01:01:31):
Fuck. Yeah, dude, I'm gonna have to get
myself a copy artwork is byChris Fisher and the music is
sped up. Restless Spirit. Don'tforget to check them out. So
we'll see you guys all in time.
We'll figure out another time toget back together and discuss
the next we'll see how ourschedules work out. But until
then, I'm Jonathan Correia.

Lindsey (01:01:53):
I'm Lindsay

Waylon Jordan (01:01:54):
and I'm Waylon

Jonathan Correia (01:01:55):
and keep talking Titans

Lindsey (01:01:58):
Talking Titans. Eith Eye on Horror

Jonathan Correia (01:02:02):
Yeah,

Lindsey (01:02:02):
Talking Titans Eye On Horror.

Jonathan Correia (01:02:07):
Bye. Keep keep your eye on horrors while like
you're talking titans

Lindsey (01:02:13):
Titans are talking y'all

Waylon Jordan (01:02:16):
whatever you say.

Lindsey (01:02:19):
Titans are Gossiping, gossiping Titans.

Jonathan Correia (01:02:22):
We will have a decent sign off by the time this
ends