2257 - Fantasy discussion of the NL Central Prospects - Part 2

Tim interviewed Rich about the Brewers, Pirates, and Cardinals minor league organizations.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Great excite chases everyone to Rich Wilson. Rich Wilson, Welcome
to Fantasy Baseball Library, Just Prospect Podcast. The day is Sunday,
the second of November. Wow, Timmy, we're in November already.
It's crazy. How are you.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm good, Rich, I've had a busy seventy two hours
to say the least, but yeah, I'm I'm hanging in there.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I really am.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I spent some time in the Big City and we'll
elaborate a.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Little bit on that later.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
There were some highs and lows of in betweens, but
I'm doing good and yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Doing well, doing well. Beautiful, beautiful weather down here in
North Carolina. I think it's going to rain tonight, but
going out to dinner with my lovely wife this evening,
so so we're looking forward to that. So everyone, we're
going to be doing the three Prospect systems we did
not get to last week, which are the Pirates, the Brewers,
and the Cardinals, and we're going to hold off on

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most of Tim's World Series extravaganza and the World Series
win by the Dodgers because you're probably going to get
this podcast after the Sunday podcast, which is going to
come out later this afternoon, so we'll hold it off
from there. But Tim did bring up something in our discussions,
and I can't wait to hear all the details from Tim.
Tim says he's never been this time. The last time

(01:41):
he was this tired was when he played football in
high school. Tim tell us about this football experience.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
H Well, I was working part time, going to high school,
pretending to be a drummer and a and in between
all of that, had had a girlfriend, and I was
going to football practice every day. I was the on
the junior junior versity team. I was the offensive center

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or I was offensive and they put me in the middle,
so I guess, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Right in the middle of all the all the stuff. Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, you know, when you're when you're tall, a little
bit overweight, you got to play on the line, right,
You're not gonna be the featured wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, wow did you yeah? Did you ever get the games? Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, yeah, I actually I actually actually the highlight was
on a running back fumbled.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
One of their guys picked it up.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
And started heading heading towards the end zone, and I
went off to the right little.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Bit and he ran right by me.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I stick my arm round I closed line line them
laid them right out. Fifteen fifteen, no, fifteen yards later. Okay,
I was still smiling.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I don't think you could do that anywhere. That was
back in the days of leather helmets. So did you
Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, my.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Eye gouging and kicking your up on the line, getting
it evil in his eyes, all the fun stuff. But
it was one of the best closed lines, if I
recall uh administered in the day. Okay, it was worth
the fifteen yards. We lost the game, but I still
had reason to be at least a little happen.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
So you did get penalized. That's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. There were flags flying all
over the place. It was just I was just like
the fourth of July. Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
So my son was about like you when he was
always a big kid, still is a big kid that
he's trimmed down a lot. And he wanted to play football.
So he was ten, so we signed him up for
the pee wee football program in our town, and it
was they said that the parent introduction stuff, this is
serious business. We're big in football here. We didn't know

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what that meant to him, but we did. After we
got into it, and these guys practiced six days a week.
They practiced until they threw up. I mean, it was unbelievable.
And we went let my son quit. He wanted to
quit day, you know, week two. I said, look, you
commit it. You need to get through it. And but
about I think there was two weeks left in the

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season and a kid got a concussion during the game.
During the game and the doctor said he need to
stay out a few days, and uh, and then maybe
he can consider playing the following week. But so Monday
there was no practice. Tuesday practice, the kid is back.
The parent is going. I just couldn't say no to him.

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He wanted to come out and play, and the coaches
let him in, you know, into practice and into the game.
And that's when Laurie and they said we're done. We're done. Here,
you're out. Matt. He was like, good, he got out.
But I'll never forget that. It's like, oh my gosh,
people are absolutely insane about football.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I I only I only played for one year.
I wasn't very good at it. I had so many
other fun things going on in my life.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
It just it just didn't fit in.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Then the music and the motor cycle and everything else
definitely took priority and over over, you know, doing wind
sprints okay, and everybody seemed to have much more wind
than me. I got ripped off somewhere, I think, but no,
I just wasn't. It just wasn't for me. Richie really wasn't.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well. I have to live vicariously through my son again.
One more, one more story. He played the offensive line
like you did. I don't know if he was centered
or not, but there was a fumble and my son
recovered it, you know, so it was often and he
was praise and way to go. Matt I said after
the game, like how did all that transpire? He goes, Dad,
I fell, thanks for me, Like all right, there.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Were a level, a pearl level of recovery, right.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Because I fell and felt something hard underneath of me,
and everybody jumped on like okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah you were expecting me. Yes, I reached out and
grabbed it and forced it.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, all that fancy stuff. Now he accidentally
fell and landed on the ball. So we've got we've
got three systems to get through. You are the host
onness and I am going to turn it over to you.
I think we're starting off with the Brewers.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, that sounds like a good place to start off.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
We'll do it alphabetically.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
And yeah, when I look at your rankings, okay, and
I look at number one on the list, I remember
a time and it didn't seem like it was that
long ago. You know, a birth date of a you know,
around two thousand or early two thousand, and that was
a really big deal. Two thousand and seven. That's a

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big deal, isn't it. With Haser's money. You know, we're
getting we're closing in on twenty ten now for birthdays,
aren't we.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, he was. He was a sixteen year old kid
two years ago. I mean he's eighteen and already made
it up to Double A. And it's just remarkable how
more developed these international players are coming in. It all
has to do with those baseball academies have gotten better.

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Kids live there. A lot of people don't realize this.
I mean they they leave their home at thirteen, fourteen
years old, and it's school and baseball together, and they
live at these camps like a boarding school, and they
play baseball and they supposedly learned, so I don't know
how much learning is going on there, And it's well, they.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Learned enough, they learned enough to sign their name on
the major an MLB contract, right.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
But it's just like everything else. For every thirty guys
that get brought into the academies, two or three get
drafted or signed, maybe five or six gets signed, and
once every ten years you get the big international signee.
I mean, it's you know, it's definitely a numbers game.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
So yeah, definitely. Is there any chance that we see him.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
This year twenty twenty six?

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, as a nineteen year old.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Look, I've got it down as an ETA of twenty
twenty six. But I think if we look at the fractal,
which is the repeat, which means the repeating of sequences.
If we take Jackson Curio as the example, Jacksonchia did
the exact same thing, flew through the lower levels of
the minor leagues, and then the Brewers had him spend

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the entire season up until maybe the last two weeks
of the year in Double A, And I remember you
and I would have these conversations, why are they keeping
Jackson Cheerio in Double A so long? I'm wondering if
they do the same thing with Hayesu's day and then
sign him and then sign him, you know, to a
team friendly contract. I think he's got the same kind

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of upside and impact that Jackson Cheerio has, and that's
that's saying a lot. But this is a kid that
is following the same pattern and path that Jackson Cheerio did,
and with health, there's a chance to see him in
twenty twenty six. But I would not be surprised if
a team friendly dealing he's up in twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense, especially considering
the way that they dealt with Cheerio. Right, the organization
is what it is they're going to They're going to
operate as that organization.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, so yeah, it makes total sense if.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I could just I mean, I cold get a chance
to see my day play live. Okay, And one of
the first couple series is of the of the minor
league season. This is a dude. This is a big,
strong kid with incredible bat speed, but most of importantly
is his hand eye coordination. He just does not make

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bad swings and I think that's something that's good. It's
that's really going to carry him forward and we saw
it if the number two was Lewis Peney, who I loved,
and I, even to a certain extent from a fantasy standpoint,
might like Louis Poenie even a little bit more. And
I saw them both in low A, and pene was
the better hitter. But as they as they moved up together,

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made's bat speed and his swing decisions really started to play,
and Penia kind of got stuck in excuse me, in
high A. After he got promoted. I think we'll be
fine to get over there. But you didn't really see
how good of a player my day was until he
got the better pitching, which seems a little counter intuitive,
but it also shows that good pitching could get out

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marginal hitters. But if you're a really good hitter, you
can still hit good pitching.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah. I was going to say, at that age, if
you're that good, the pitchures that excel are excelling against
a much weaker level of competition, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yep, this is a this is a thirty twenty guy.
Thirty twenty guy that's going to hit. I think it'll
turn into a forty ten guy. But this is going
to be a dude. And look I think kind of
Griffin because of the speed, is got to be in
front of Hazes my Day, but he's the only guy
in front of them. He's got that much upside.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
At number two, we have the guy that you just
brought up, Luis Pana, seventy runner with bad speed, but
he skipped the Complex League entirely.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
That's not the norm, is it.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Rich So both he and Hayes's my Day skipped the
Complex League after having the Panua was probably the MVP
of the DSL in twenty twenty four and just destroyed
Loway I mean, did very, very well, and he got
the high age didn't hit. He had one hundred sixty
eight twenty five games, which looks bizarre. It's a better

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hitter than that. So they both kind of they both
got promoted at the same so they kept him up
and then Pina stay back in High A after the
season was over, and they promoted Haesues my Day, who
kept on hitting. So it's it's impressive what both of
these kids have done at eighteen years old. But sometimes
you got to give guys like Painty a little bit
of grace. I mean, this is a developmental process. So

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so he didn't play well in Hi A. I don't
think that's going to continue.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, and you know, you just look at that's that's speed.
There's there's a leadoff bats hitting there.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Isn't there there's a leadoff bat or you know, used
to be an old, old fashioned number two hitter. I
think there's going to be enough power there that there's
no worry about him being a utility player. But he's
more of a table setter with speed, and I think
he's really going to hit for average. So again, it
might be fifteen home runs, but it could be thirty

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stolen bases, and you start to think what's worth more
a stolen base or a home run. I've never seen
a study on that from a fantasy standpoint, But if
you told me that Penia Pinya's home run plus stolen
bases is about the same, I wouldn't be surprised if
it's greater than what my day brings that, even though
my day is going to be kind of more of

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an impact star because of the power.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Right right, either way you look at it makes sense, Yeah,
it does. Yeah, I mean you know, either way, the
Brewers are looking at a potentially and incredibly strong top
of the order in about two years.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, consider consider Jackson, Cheerio and Lewis Penia. And that's
why because they know they're not going to be able
to sign some of these guys. They're gonna be free agents,
so they can lock up some of these young kids.
I don't know if you lock up Penia, but you
definitely lock up Aesus my day in my opinion. And
they got Quoro number three. So it's not only a

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team that came in first place in their division. I
think they had the best record in the UH, in
the NL, maybe in.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
All baseball, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, but they got top three. At least they might
even argue the top system in baseball.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, you move on to you move on to number three.
Jefferson Quarrel, Right, Yeah, he's got the backup job in Milwaukee,
and uh, you know, Contreros has got a couple more
years before a free agency, whereas he just got one.
Let me, he's armitation for you and he's a free agent.

(14:37):
Uh three more years yeah. Yeah. But again, at some
point in time, Quarrel is going to slide into that
number one role as a catcher in Milwaukee. And he's
got the tools to be very successful.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
He's not a big guy, so it's uh. I mean,
William Controllers was not a very good catcher when he
came up, and he's gotten better, so I don't think
there is any any reason to pull him out of
the position. So they've got to figure a way for
where Quaro is going to play. Could you see William
Contreras moving more to d H I think so. So

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maybe together you know that you can find four hundred
to fourhundred and fifty at bats or Quarral over the
next couple of years per season. I think that might
be what they do is good.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, yeah, you know, he's a very very good player.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
And you know the current first first base at first
base for the Brewers.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Is Andrew Baughn.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
So you know, there could be there could be opportunities,
who knows, maybe yell at at first base Contreras more time.
But either way, Quorral is definitely going to going to
fit in this year. And would you look at him
in a fifteen team re draft league? Would you look
at at Cora as a number two type catcher this year?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Hold over a second, was just looking at Christian Yellen's
you know, he signed the twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah, he's there for a while. There's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, he's there for a while, so does make things complicated.
I know he's had some back issues of late, so
I mean trying to figure So your question was, again,
in a deep fifteen team league, would you do Jefferson Quarrel?

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah as a number two?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I don't think so because I do worry about the
playing time. I mean, now that I'm looking at Christian
Yelich probably spending a lot of time at DH. Your
I mean, Quarl's good. He's not going to beat out
William Contreras unless Contreras is hurt.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Where does he play well, he's gonna be He's going
to be your uh, he's going.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
To be your your backup catcher.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
So there's what two hundred of bats, one hundred and fifties,
two hundred of bets. Yeah, that's where Contreras I'll get
his extra time. Did probably spelling yell at a DH
you know they'll be injury situations. I'm not concerned about
Contreras getting the additional at bats needed.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
He's a good hitter. They're going to have hits the ball.
Nobody hits the ball harder than Conturrasys. That's a big
boy power there. I just don't quaro until they're not
going to get rid of controllers. They're definitely not going
to get rid of Yellic. You know Andrewaugh. I mean,
Andrew Vaugh had that bounce back, but if you really
take a look at the underlying data really hadn't changed

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my So he's he's Andrew Vaugh. So could Yelich, as
Timas say, move to first base and get free up
time for Jefferson Quaro? So you know, I'd want to
see more certainty in a role before I take him
as my number two catcher and obviously an only league
of course. Yeah, I think there's obviously an opportunity there.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Okay, good stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
A number four we have Cooper Pratt, and he's somebody
that I hadn't spent a lot of time looking at.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
But the more I look at that, the more I.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Wonder how long does Joey Ortiz hold him off or
boss leaving Callum Durman. You know, there's I think there's
going to be an opportunity for Pratt, possibly sooner than some.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Expect. Well what say you, rich.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
So as as Ben Stiller said, and meet the fokers.
I'm a looking and I'm a liking me.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, he said that about his mother in law because
he was drunk, which.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Was pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
That he had answer to his wife afterwards.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, not good.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah. Yeah. First of all, Cooper Pratt, nobody talks about
this guy. And yet there's I mean, it's it's a
high floor player, there's great contact, there's plenty of speed.
I think there's enough power for twelve to fifteen and
we talk about I mean, I give giving all the
reasons you should like Lewis Pina, Cooper Pratt might already
be what Lewis pen Is going to be, might become,

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you know what I mean. So it's this is this
is a guy that needs to be talked about more.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I agree with Yeah, he's knocking on the door.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yep. I think Joey Ortistas got off a horrible start.
He did finish up well. Yeah, I think Cooper Pratt's
got more upside than Joey Ortiz does.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Okay, would you is he the sort of guy would
you toss a dart forty five to fifty in a draft?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
And hold, let's take a look at how much time
he spent in Double A. He spent the entire season. Yes,
I would look fifteen strikeout walked on as much as
he struck out eight home runs, which isn't great, but
that's enough to say, hey, this is a guy that's
going to get full time and bass a thirty one
stolen bases, that's the guy that you can get. No

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one's gonna be talking about this in the forty eighth round.
Take a flyer and all it takes is an injury
to Joey Ortiz or uh yeah, and you're you bring
him up?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, No.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I like the kid a lot, and it's somebody that
was totally off my radar, totally.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, I think you get him on your radar, particularly
for draft and hold leagues.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Okay, good stuff. At number five, we have Logan Henderson
when he was on the field. Yeah, it was great,
but there are plenty of reasons to be concerned. I
believe with Logan Henderson would say, you, rich.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
These have had a breaking pitch. I think there's a
number four starter there, but it's more it's more command
and control over stuff. I mean, I don't think he's
an eighty nine mile hour fast while by any stretch.
But I mean guys like that just don't have the
same kind of upside that guys that throw hard. I mean,

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sometimes you get the Shane Biebers of the world that
come off of me and win a cy young that
typically doesn't happen. So I just think, lookan Innerson is
going to be a good picture of the fact that
he plays on the Brewers. You know, if he's a
four or five, he might be a three four just
because they find a way to get his pitch sequencing

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better and they just make pictures better. So I'm I
know you like to talk about where these guys, he
would be a guy would be interested in late for
my bench and in a fantasy league next season.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Okay, at number six we have you agree? Well, my
my my problem. I I agree, But there's been a
lot of health issues. Now I know they can go away,
and that's that's that's my concern.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
If I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
He finished the year on the finished the the year
on the i L and he spent Yeah, they deemed
him to be fully healthy with the elbow. It's just
you know, his season came to an early end in
early August because of a flexer strain. That just concerns me, Like,
I love what I saw, but I just don't think

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we saw enough of it.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's my concern.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, he looks like he didn't pitch until after August
the third, so you know, obviously worried once he starts
throwing in anger come you know March April that the
the ten and ice is going to come back as well.
But you know, hey, yeah, it can happen to any pitcher.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
True enough, true enough.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Okay, at number six, we've got raylon Kine. You like
this kid a lot. I guess it's all about whether
the power develops. That's uh, that's a potential concern.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah yeah, I mean, look, there's good speed there. I
think we're waiting on the power to come. I think
the power will come. You just hit the ball on
the ground a ton so and there was a bit
more strikeouts than I thought. So it's a guy that
was really really big one coming into the season. I
took him in a lot of first year player drafts,
and you know, of being totally honest, I think it

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was just okay. I think the upside is still there.
I love anybody that the Brewers sign and develop I'm
interested in and that's why I'm still interested in Pain.
But I think he needs to show us more next season.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Okay, now here's a player that really intrigues me. H
Andrew Fisher at number seven. I love your ETA twenty
twenty six, twenty seven. He was drafted at number twenty
last year after finishing second in Division One with twenty
five home runs. You look at the first base situation

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in Milwaukee. I agree with you said we could see
him a lot earlier than anticipated.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, it's not the uh, it's not the Brewers mo
to bring up guys very quickly. So again, you could
see him in Double A for quite a bit. But
if you know, look, I think, look, I copped a
lot of people this season to Reee Hoskins. Right, Reee
Haskins is a good player and big power, big strikeouts.

(24:12):
You know what you got with ree Hoskins. Maybe he's
passed his prime. He didn't even make the he didn't
even make the postseason roster. I don't believe. And they
went completely with Andrew Vaughan. But Andrew Vaughan could quickly
turn into Reee Hoskins as well. And I think you're
looking at another kind of cheap power with Andrew Fisher,
who's going to high on based skills, big power coming

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to the major league soon. I think that's just who
the player is. So you could be twenty five with
a two forty two sixty batting average, three point thirty
on base percentage with a lot of RBIs that's who
the guy is.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, but not that many are talking about that, are they?

Speaker 1 (24:52):
No?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, So now was the opportunity right?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
And I think you as a dynasty league manager, you
just need to figure out what value is that? What
value is Reee Hoskins to you? You obviously can't have
five Reece Hoskins on your team, but maybe you take it.
You know, you're in your first year player draft. This
guy's going to go in the second round. Is that
a good pick in the second round? Based on your
roster construction? It could could very well be unless you've

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got three other bulking, hulking first basement.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, yeah, no, it makes total makes total sense. Yeah,
if the need is there, you'd even move him up,
couldn't you.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I think you could. I mean I don't know if
i'd go top fifteen. That's the problem. I mean, there's
there's so many high upside guys that people should be
interested in for next year's first year player drafts. But
people like yourself who like to play the shorter term
game might want to consider Andrew Fisher eighty percent of

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maybe one of the high end shortstops who might not
ever develop. But you think Fisher's closer less risk. I mean,
you could definitely go in that direction.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, and if you're back up to say Roberty Tiles,
it makes a little bit more sense too, don't Yeah, Okay,
at number eight, we have Bishop letson highest level currently
is double A.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
He was drafted late. We're eleventh round in twenty three.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
He missed a lot of time last year with a
shoulder injury. But it looks like the stuff is very real.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I call him a sleeper, so I don't think I
need to say much of it. This is a guy
that I don't see came out of nowhere, but came
out of nowhere in twenty twenty four showing really wicked
stuff when he pitched, and he just built on that
in twenty twenty five and it's a great sinker slider. Yeah,
he needs a better change up, but a lot of
pictures do. But it's good stuff. And again, this is

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a guy that the Brewers will make better, so I
wouldn't be surprised on his fantasy seem goes up in
the middle of next season, and you know, I think
he's a twenty twenty seven guy, but a guy kind
of a Logan Henderson who throws a lot harder.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay, a number and number dying. We have Robert Gasser.
You know, I didn't realize. Okay, but Gasser's going to
be turning twenty seven at the end of next May.
Mile My, the time flies, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, I mean the same thing with uh, the Dodgers
kid that's out with Tommy John surgery. Oh him, anyway,
he's got right, got uh yeah River Ryan. Yeah, they
go out and you miss the whole year and sometimes
it's a year and a half and us and it
was twenty five and now turning twenty seven. That's how
it happens. And that's what Tommy John just sucks.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, definitely like that one caught me off guard. I
just thought he was younger, eh, but that is not
the case.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Uh, you know, I don't forget about him. He was
really good when he came up before Tommy John surgery.
He looked really good after he came back from Tommy
John surgery. And I don't think anybody's talking about this.
Another guy late in a first year, late in a

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drafted hold. That's I think you're gonna be able to
get him cool.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I like that. I also like your number ten pick.
There's a lot to Milwaukee other than number twelve. Yeah,
Coleman Crew at number ten.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Eight walks in forty three innings pitched. Wow, you know. Yeah,
there's a couple of gains.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
A couple of our diners, couple of our Patreon members
are big Cole Coleman Crow fans. So look, I wish
you were taller. I wish he threw harder, but he doesn't.
The guy throws strikes and again, top top sixty starting
pitcher with ups I think the upside is because he
plays for the Brewers.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Well, yeah, and he doesn't give it away, does he?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
No, he had it and that counts yep. Okay, there's
our top ten from the Milwaukee Brewer Organization. I'll turn
it over to you for any other names that you
think we should know about.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Well, look, there's this list has got twenty four. I
encourage everybody to join the Patreon site to get all
twenty four names. This this alone should be peason a
joy because there's great names here. So I'm only going
to give number twelve, which is Tyler Black, which Tim
and I talked about last show, and I mean, I
don't know what happened. I think it's mostly injuries. I

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think eventually he's going to play and play well. I
don't think it's going to be in Milwaukee. I I mean,
I it's just disappointing what has happened with Tyler Black.
He will this will be the last time he's on
the list because he'll lose prospect eligibility. But if he
could stay healthy, I mean, I think it's a guy

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that's going to be a low power with speed, uh
and a guy that's going to hit that hopefully will
play the outfield, left field, if he plays first base,
it's going to be tough. But yeah, just the guy
I missed on Tim, I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well, and I think he had some sage advice and
we discussed it last week, and that be wary of
players that have defensive limitations. Yep, you know it's Hey,
if you play great defense, okay, they can, they can
work with the hit tool. Okay, but if you have

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they if you're pigeonholed into a DH slot, uh, there
are there are limitations there.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You better if you get stuck at DH.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, yeah, you bet. You better hit and hit right
away and hit very very well.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
And you know, the discussing basterios okay, in conjunction with
black I found to be a very very interesting discussion.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
I really did.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
All right to me, it's a quick break come back
into the Pirates.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Okay, like good stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Let me tell me. I'll turn it over to you
for the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I'm just looking at at the top of the list,
and I'm thinking twenty one home runs in sixty five
stolen bases over one hundred and twenty two games.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
It's pretty good, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah. I mean, look like Connor Griffin was clearly the
best player in the minor leagues and the you know,
at an MVP of the of the entire minor whatever
you want to whatever accolades you want to throw in
the sky. The thing that really caught me off guard
was how much contact he made. I thought based on

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his hitching a swing. I thought there was gonna be
more swing and missing his game, but there might eventually be.
But nothing slowed this kid down. I mean, this is
you're looking at a potential superstar here. That's why I
have his fantasy. Sanley's a first round pick. Is he
going to hit a speed bump? Most assuredly? And it
speedbump could come in the major leagues? Will he be

(32:23):
able to work through it? That's what you don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Right, But we're gonna find out pretty quick, aren't we.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
As we talked about I think last week we're talking
about the Pirates fantasy standpoint. My belief is it is
all about Paul Skeins and you got a generational pitcher.
You've got him for four more years. You can't waste
a moment of time. So as soon as they think
that Connor Griffin is kind of ready, they need to

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bring him up.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
So yeah, get it, get it going right smartly? Right?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, I mean, you don't want to wait till twenty
twenty eight when he has had a full year of
Triple A under his belt, and before now, you gotta
hope that he's going to be able to figure it
finish up in the in the major leagues. Otherwise Paul
Skins is going to be gone, and yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, and Bubba Chandler at number two. We'll have one
fight out the door, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Mean Jared Jones. We talked to them all all last
week and we could talk about him again. It's all
set up. They need some offense. Ten brought it up best.
We know for a fact they're not going to go
out to the free agent market and bring in anybody.
So they're gonna have to tap into Connor Griffin and
they're gonna have to tap into Tamar Johnson. These are
the guys that they've got to bring up. And that's

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why I think there's a really good shot that both
of these guys come up in twenty twenty six, so
that they've got twenty twenty seven and twenty eight to
make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, it's a very Once the window starts to open,
it can close equally as fast as they got open.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, think about it. So you get Tamar Johnson and
kind of Griffin. Let's say you get them two hundred
at bats minimum in the big leagues in twenty twenty
six and they're ready to go. So you get all
of twenty twenty seven and maybe most of twenty twenty
eight before you've got to make a decision on Paul Skins.
And you're kind of in the same model that Detroit

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Tigers find themselves in, which is an okay place to be.
You know, you're never going to be able to resign
Paul Skins. I doubt the Tiger's gonna be able to
resign Trek Scoobell. But at least you had a run
of a couple three years, and I think that's the
opportunity that the Pirates have. But they're gonna have to
do it all within.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, no it.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
And again what concerns me about Pittsburgh is looking back
to the way they handled things a few years ago
when McCutcheon was, you know, was the driving force on
that team, and they had players in the minors, and
they didn't take advantage of it to.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
The leader, were more concerned about service time.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And I think you know, they made
the playoffs for a couple of years in a row
as well, Card, but they didn't take advantage of the
situation that hand, and there was I think more that
could have been had you know, had they done in
fact made some moves.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Okay, So anyhow, that's just my well.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Don't if I can pile onto that nothing has changed
in Pittsburgh. I mean, Sherrington's a good general manager, but
nothing in ownership has changed that we can confidently say, oh, yeah,
this time is going to be different. I don't think
it will be.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
No, that's my concern as well. Rich.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, okay, moving on at number two, we have Bubba Chandler.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Can we play the over under game?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Rich?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Just a second? So I think, okay, I will say that.
But then you see what one picture, what a difference
Yama Mota made in the World Series. I mean, Paul
Skeans could be Yamamoto when they're ready to go. In
any kind of series, you've got that one guy and

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then you're throwing the Tyler glass and and uh and
others Otani's of the world. And the Pirates have that
kind of talent that they can bring in. They got
the pitching done. The Dodgers didn't hit with shit. I
mean they were terrible and they still wont you know,
so you know, I mean it's and so you need

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you bring a Connor Griffin, a couple of the guys
that can hit. Who knows what can happen?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Well, yeah, when Yamamoto wins three games in a best
of seven, yeah, that's a difference maker.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yes, yeah, no question, that's a difference maker. But Paul
Skeins is probably better than Yamamo. I mean, that's the
guy they got. They got a guy that can do that.
They just need to they need they need to get
into the playoffs. They need some offense around them. That's
why these guys, that's why it's so important in my
humble opinion. And look, the front office knows exactly what's

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going on, so.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I'm sure they do.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, that's whether or not ownership allows them.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
To do it.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, So they're going to have to work around the
limitations of ownership. They know they're not going to spend money,
so they have to make some very clever acquisitions in
the off season of five six million dollar guys that overachieve,
and they're going to have to bring up these kids
as soon as they kind of ready.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
So yeah, find yourself the odd, uh, Ernie like Toronto did, right, Ernie?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, you know, Yeah, Ernie clement Is is fascinating he's
not that great of a baseball player, but in the
right situation, in the right time, sometimes it's a lot
of luck goes on and he becomes really really effective.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, well he said a record in the playoffs for
most hits.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Where it drives the Toronto team is blat you need
a superstar, you need you need a lad And can
Conter Griffin be that? Probably? Yeah, because at the at
the Fall League when I first saw him, and you
see him a major league baseball he looks like he's
he acts like he's the best player on the team

(38:16):
and the best player on the field, And that's saying
a lot. When otis on the field safe, he just
carries himself with just incredible amount of confidence. And that's
who the pirate. Every team needs a guy like that
because it just it lifts everybody else up.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Well, yeah, you've got your Aaron Judge in New York,
you've got Tawny.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
All the great teams.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Have somebody that says, hey, it's my team, Yep, we're
gonna win and yeah, they do what it takes to win.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Now, think think about this, So Detroit, outside of their pitching,
who is that guy? They don't exist yeah, they don't exist.
I mean, that's the problem they don't have.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
It might be Riley Green, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Don't know, there's there's no there. The athleticism is not
what it used to be. I'm not sure he's You
can put him in the same category as these other cats.
They need, they need a superstar, and maybe Max Clark
will be that for them, or or McGonagall. I don't know.
But the Pirates have that guy, and Connor Griffin, they

(39:26):
have that guy. He can happen, make it happen. Pittsford,
I'll turn it back over to you. Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
At number two, we got Bubba Chandler, and back to
my question. We played the over under game. Okay, one
hundred and thirty five strike odes.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Over under going twenty twenty six over yep significantly over.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Ah three seventy.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
That feels about right to me.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Now you're gonna call out when a wash.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Gonna call three point fifty to four something like that. Okay,
I think I'll have some stinkers in the beginning to
figure it out. As he gets to the end, I
think he's gonna be really good. And you had him
at six wins. I'm going to say eight to nine.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, that was Yeah, that was what
it was. Okay, that was more of a team statement
than it was a Bubba Chandler statement.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Look, I'm not sure what happened to Bubba Chandler in
the minor leagues last season. His April, he looked great,
and the wheels fell off. They just did. They'd stopped
throwing strikes. He gets the major leagues and he looked
He looked fine. When he's pitching the major leagues. The
data all looks good with this guy. The data looked
great when when he's pitching the minor league. So I

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don't know if there's a tipping of his pitches going on,
whether he just didn't have good command of his pitches.
So he's too good of a player to be posting
a four to fifty ear a in the minor leagues.
That makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
No, you're drafting him as a number three rich? Is
that what you're looking at.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
For this season? C upcoming season? That feels a little
rich for me. I'm gonna I would hope I can
get him as a number four starter. I might even
be able to get him later than that. I don't
know where he's going to go in fantasy drafts. But
I mean it's only a handful of starts, and you know,

(41:26):
so he's still a kid. Blah blah blah blah blah.
So I don't go too.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Far in right right, Okay, at number three, we got
Seth Hernandez went number six off the board. You've got
you've gotten listed as a top thirty starting pitcher with
extreme risk. Twenty twenty nine is a long way down
the road, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, But I mean, look, the Pirates have done a
really good job of late kind of signing these high
end pitching prospects, particularly the Bubba Chandlers of the world.
Bubb Champ is incredibly athletic. Seth Rnandez is credibly athletic.
He's playing down in the Dominican Winter League, or at
least he was. He was throwing in the Dominican Winter
League and was hitting the hundred and two, you know,

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in the bullpen. So, I mean he's Everything this kid
has done has been impressive. Six foot four, huge fastball,
great breaking pitch. So he's got all of the characteristics.
Is it gonna get hurt? Yes, you have to wait
a long time on him to get up to the
major leagues. Yes, but there's number one starter stuff here.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Okay, the weight might might very well prove to be
worth it.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
It's that's up to the individual dynasty league manager.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
If you're if you're pretty sure that you're that your
dynasty league's gonna be around for eight to ten years,
then yeah, take seth Rnandez early in a first year
player draft. If not, you know, be careful, right, because
that's how long it's gonna take. Right, It's gonna be
four years, three to four years to make it up
to the leagues, another couple of years for him to

(43:02):
establish himself, and then I think you're you're starting to
see the real guy. So that's six to eight years.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah. If your league is named after the great Rush
album fly by Night, you might want a pass right.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
That is a great album, by the way, under under rated.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
One of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Gaye number four we've got and we've we discussed him
in at at length. To Tamar Johnson, I guess my
question is how long before Nick York becomes a utility infielder.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Look, I know Nick York was a Red Sox, and
anybody who gets drafted as Red Sox as Yankees. He's
going to be great. I think he's okay. He reminds
me of Nick Gonzales, you know, he's okay. I I
think Tamar Johnson is a better version of that. Want

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much more athletics, so there's going to be more stolen
bases there. He's a kid that hasn't has had trouble
defining himself. When he came up as a rookie, he
had a very passive approach. Second year that he just
tried to hit home runs. It was swinging and missing
a lot. I think he's starting to fall into the
player that we always thought he'd be, and that is

(44:17):
a guy that kind of fifteen to twenty home run pop,
good speed, but a guy that's gonna hit. I think
that's a better version of all these Nick all these
knicks that they got on on that squad.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Okay, at number five, moving on, we have Edward Floor
and Tino. It's time to buy in, isn't it? And
maybe I'll let you expand on why it's time to
buy in.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Edward Florentino might be the best player in the minor
leagues that no one is talking about. This is a
guy that has just incredible impact skills, tore up the
complex league. Yeah, there's a few too many strikes when
he got promoted to the low way, but he's moving quickly.

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I have to tell you. It feels a lot like
Connor Griffin, you know, just those kind of that kind
of skill sets. Blazing speed, great bat speed, more of
a field a hit than you thought. I mean, thirty
home run pop, thirty five stolen bases. That's what I
got is a potential of this guy. So yeah, jump
on everybody.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah, that's that's big numbers.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, it just realized he's a kid. Lots can go wrong,
but to me, these are the kind of guys in
deeper dynasty leagues that you must try to grab because
you can't have every one of your spots as Evan Florentino,
but the upside is so high you just have to
bring him in. Because I did that with both Luis
Pina and Jesus my day, and look, I was hoping

(45:52):
one of them would yield, and I got. I got
two for two there. Evan Florentino is another one of
those high upside guys is that you go out and
grab before everybody else gets it, and our that's what
our pageron members are hopefully getting from me. When I
start to bring up guys, particularly early in the season
that have gotten off the snide. Well, that's just what
you get. You got to jump on them.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yep. Haste makes potential waste, right.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, And don't overthink it, everyone, don't overthink it like
you just look at the potential upside, because if it
doesn't work, it doesn't work. You throw them back, particularly
if you've got like twenty five thirty minor league slots.
I mean, you got plenty of crap on that one
of your minor league rosters. You got plenty of stuff

(46:38):
to trim find a place for guys like Edwin Florentino.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Sounds good rich at number six.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Time for an explanation from you.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Uh. A term that we don't see all that often,
cross fire delivery and hunter bargo. What's can you expand
on that A little bit.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Started delivery usually involves left handed pictures. It was, you know,
kind of the most cross fire delivery. Think of Madison Bumgardner,
which we'll talk about a lot at our other podcast
because the comparison between he and Yamamoto have got to
be made. But that's a guy that comes across his body,
creates great deception when he does that, but puts a

(47:21):
lot of stress on the arm as well. That's a
bumper and never really had arm trouble. He just his
arm just wore out. I mean that was more from
the abuse. But you guys have crossfire delivery. Chris Sale
another guy with huge cross crossfire delivery. He could be

(47:41):
very very effective. And Hunter Barco had a really good season.
Came up at the end of the end of the year,
so I kind of liked the kid.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Another another picture that you would throw a forty five
to fifty pick on in drafting holes.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yep. I need to do a list of all of those,
all of those pictures. Maybe one of our members can
listen back through all these podcasts and create give me
a listen and I'll rank them.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
So yeah, I was gonna say, and then I'll steal
them and use them with all my drafts.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
There you go, Well, you know that's what it's all about.
So look, if I if I don't win another league,
I'm fine. I just want the people that are listening
to us, particular Patreon members, I want them to win
the leagues because we told them the right guys to get.
So I don't win leaks because I make bad decisions,
and usually the decisions because I ever think everything. So

(48:32):
I know what my problem is.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
So yeah, yes, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, And I'm trying to change that. Like with Edwin
Edward Florentino and some other guys were going to talk
about is like trying to learn from my mistakes, going,
I don't know, there's this little problem and a little
problem there I might turn into a big problem. And
before you know what, he's owned in every league and
I'm like, well, you know, I got a forest trees problem.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
It's like, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
There's there's so many choices, so little time, right, and
how do you differentiate between the direction you want to head?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
And sometimes the best direction is not to head anywhere. Right.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Look, when these guys are blowing up and dynasty leagues,
and it happens every year. It happens every year in
the major leagues, but the minor leagues it's even more exaggerated.
And April and May are the time to be picking
these guys up. And you know, I can only I
can only give you like partial kind of informations. I
don't know a lot about these players, but you can't

(49:35):
sit idly and wait for him. You got to jump
on them and then figure it out later.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Well exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
And when you cutmes three months later for a guy
who never makes the bigs and somebody picks him up
and he becomes a star, that's part of the game.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, it is, it is. I did that with based
on your opinion. I remember after the after the trade deadline,
I be to pose for Ferrara, Fererra, the kid in Washington, right, Yeah,
I picked them whole bunch. I didn't know who the
guy was. I heard the name when it was in
the minor leagues, but I didn't know. Looked at Baseball's

(50:11):
want to go Okay, looks.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Good enough, and you got you get yourself a closer
for next year. He's gonna going to camp as a favorite,
and I got in the second half.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, I didn't know. I don't know. I mean, that's
that's something I've learned to be more aggressive, even if
I don't have, you know, a twenty page narrative now
about who the guy is, and I can logically make
a decision. Sometimes you just have to go with the
little information that you have and jump on these guys.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Well, yeah, I've always got three or four of those
guys sitting in my miners in the Dynasty League. Yeah,
just because they're next in line or next to next
in line, and they've got some skills. Yeah, hey, jump
on them early, stash them away, and that's how you
up with an Alexis Dias. It gets twenty plus saves
in a season, or a ferreer or something like that.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah, you look at the talent. Should they be occupying
a spot?

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Probably not, But hey, I love saves, but I sure
as hell hate paying for them, And anyway I can
avoid that, it's a plus. And I think it's something that,
as you just mentioned, people should work into their game
because there's opportunities exist every year. And let's face it,
saves is it's ten percent of your total counting numbers.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
So totally agree. But I think if you use that
same kind of mindset to young kids in the minor leagues,
that's what you need to be doing that. Believe it
or not. At one point, guys, Mike Trout was nobody
was thinking about this guy. He was picked number twenty
six or something it's like, okay, first round guy from

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cold state, New Jersey. Who was this guy three MVPs later?
Gotta get him, you know when he started?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, and you know my argument was, he came up
one hundred at bets. At the end of the year,
he's stunk. Okay, and Anaheim had Vernon Wells sitting there.
How is this kid gonna beat Vernon Wells out for
a job?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
So logically I had everything figured out except for one thing.
Mike Trotz, Mike drop Yeah. Yeah, it didn't force Vernon Wells. Uh.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
It forced Vernon Wells out of a job fairly quickly. Yeah,
there's there's.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
A price to all that. To me, the price for
Bubba Chandler next season might be higher than I'm willing
to pay, but the price for Edwin Florentino is not
very high. That the price of Hunter Barco is not
going to be very high. I'm not talking Edward Edward
Florentino for the major leagues. I'm talking Edwin Florentino for

(52:50):
your minor league roster. But Hunter Barco as uh, you know,
a draft and hold league in the forties.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yeah, yeah, I think you have to be all over
those opportunities as they come up.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
And then you could go there's another argument, tim, Oh,
who's going to pitch? Look at all the arms they
have arms. Pitchers get hurt, so accident they get hurt,
so don't worry about that. At a draft and hole
that picked forty three.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, I can remember personally stating last year that the
Dodgers' bullpen will be fine. They have enough high end
arms in that Dodger bullpen that they'll be safe. And
where were they at the end of the year. Yeah,
throwing rookie Sazaki into a bullpen roll. They didn't have anybody.
Everybody was hurt or underperforming, So it's it's hard to

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generalize along those lines.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
All right, let's finish this up ten.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Okay, Christian Curtis at number seven, I fell to the
twelfth round.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Do you do?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
A nervous issue in his elbow? But the situation seems
to be pretty clearly in the rear view mirror, and
I think there's a fair bit to like with Christian Curtis.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
What say you, right?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, another kid that's not getting a lot of a
lot of love. Fastballs up to ninety eight miles an hour,
needs a development, a better change up. But look, this
is a guy that no one is talking about, and
I think people need to consider it in deeper dynasty leagues.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Wow, a slider's spinning north at twenty six hundred. That's
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
It just don't see that very often. Doesn't always mean
it's gonna work. It just shows it's got a lot
of movement, right, and you know that's what you're looking
for in terms of raw skills.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Okay, number eight, we have.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Nick York, who's the starting second basement in twenty twenty
seven for the Pirates.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Rick Oh, I think Tamar Johnson is I thought you're
gonna ask me twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
No, No, I'm looking at twenty seven. I've given it
a year.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I would be disappointed if it's not Tamar Johnson. I
just I think Nick work might be a twain, or
he could prove me wrong because he's a baller. So
it's this the guy that you look up and he's
got you know, twelve home runs, playing a good second base.
He's good on base, he's a good player. I just
don't know if he's a guy that you want to

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go to war with. If you think you're a championship
level team, and he might say, well, Pittsburgh's never going
to be a championship level team, you know, I don't
you know, you can get yourself lost in the logic there.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
So yeah, okay, at number nine, we have as Merlin Valdez. Okay,
I'm gonna give you some numbers here.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
In twenty nine at Bets in Arizona, he has eight
home runs, fifteen walks, five strikeouts. Last night looked his
ops was two point five to three. Okay, are you
looking at moving him up with this level of production

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in the a AFL or is this just an AFL thing?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
First of all, that was exact same stat line I
wrote about last Sunday. So that means he didn't play
this week.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
No, it's he's playing sporadically. I don't know what's up
with that.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
So that's that's first. That's kind of weird. Look, we
see this in the Fall League all the time. I
think it was Nelson Velesquez or something won the MVP
a couple of seasons ago. You see these guys blow
up because it is an extreme hitters park, the extreme
hitters environment, the pitching is there's a handful of guys
or Hagen Smith is there, so there's a handful, But

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for the most part you're going inning and inning after
inning with guys that will never make the major leagues.
So ezra Al and Valdez played well in Higa. It
was really good. She was he got big boy power.
He really got neutralized when he got up to double A.
So I don't think this is the next Aaron Judge.
I think it's a low batting average, big power guy.

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And you know I've got him in the mid two
hundreds rank. Let's see, you got him exactly at two
thirty eight. I think that's fair. So I think you
should be on the most leagues. But don't think he's
Aaron Judge.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Just an update on the Arizona Fall League. There Fall
Stars game. They changed the they changed the timing of
that game, and it's another reason that you won't miss
the AFL. The game is now scheduled as a nine
inning game starting at twelve thirty in the afternoon at Camelback.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
No, okay, I kind of I would. I would personally
like that.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
It's too hot, too hot for me.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, it's not hot. It's not hot in Phoenix. Anymore.
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
My guess is it's beautiful out there now.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, could very well be it. Every place out there
is hot for this old guy. At number ten, we
have Wyatt Sanford and Son. It looks like the extra
reps in the Compact comp League paid off handsomely for
mister Sandford.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
First of my father's favorite TV show was Sanford and Son.
I mean, so we watched it when I was a
kid all the time. Yeah, he loved it. My dad
was a was a minister and would quote Fred Sandford
lines all the time. And it turned out that Red
Fox was I mean was a blue guy. I mean

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he was dirty as alternate.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
An My dad cunning edge.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
He knew him from from Sanford and Son, as we
all did, but as we got older and he realized
that Red Fox was Wow.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
So yeah, he was right up there with George Carlins.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Really really well. I don't think he was quite as
clever as Carlin, but yeah, I get your point anyway.
Whyatt Sanford is another kid that I like a lot
good defender. There's more offense than I thought he was
originally going to have. I think he goes into a
second base role. There's not a ton of power there,
but I think he's going to make. I think he's

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gonna make pretty good context. So that's the guy that
you know better version I think of long term, maybe
of a nick York type of guy, but kind of
in that that realm.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Okay, there goes our top ten.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Anybody else you want to discuss from this rather lengthy
and solid listener players.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Rich twenty four names here. These are two of the
best systems in baseball. I'm gonna go with number thirteen
and that's Rafael Flores. I had a chance to see
this guy play, I'm gonna say fifty times some over
a couple of years when he was with the with
the Yankees, and it's like every time you would see him,
he was Specer Jones was on that team, and then

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oh the shortstop kid an not Anthony Volpi anyway, well
Anthony Volpe was there for a while. Anyway, I've seen
I've seen this. I've seen this guy playing a lot.
He's really good and people, you know, people didn't realize.
I think the upside of this guy, and I think
the Yankees in eitherbody's older now, uh and the last

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I look everybody catching for the Pirates. Seems to be
hurt and I'm I'm not ready to buy under achieving
Henry Davis. Yeah, that's that's a whole nother. So that
was a bad pick by the Pirates because they tried
to get cute the way the Houston Astros did. But
the Astros were a lot smarter, you know, they're just

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smarter than the than the Pirates were, and they were.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Able to take The Astros were good looking to start, Okay,
they had to jump on the Pirates, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Yeah, but they took a lot of these underslot guys
early and then piled in with overslot guys. It didn't
work for the Pirates and they didn't get much of
that draft and they kind of blew the one one
with Henry Davis. And it looks like he might, you
might turn out to be a Joey Bart type of guy,
you know, kind of a an okay player, but far

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from the star. Andy Rodriguez. I don't know what's happened
to him. I mean, the last time he's really played,
he just he can't stay healthy. It's wide open for
Raphael Flores.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
He might be somebody in deeper leagues, you might, Yeah,
depending on on his status at the end of spring training,
he might be somebody that somebody have interest.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Yep, Hendry Davis hasn't performed, Andy Rodriguez can't stay healthy,
and Joey Bart hasn't shown much Flora. They are, Oh
my goodness, right at the hour marker, ready r to me.
It's our'sake, our final break. Come back and quickly do
the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I promised him that I'd be responsible to keep this
thing moving along. Atti me, I have failed miserably because
I'd like to hear my voice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Well, and you know what, Rich, I'd like hearing your
voice too, So I'm not too upset about this Alternative
events talk talk away. It's given me a nice little
break here, and you're sharing a whole bunch of information
I think is going to be very very useful for
our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Oh, I appreciate that, So turn it back over to
you too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Okay, we're going to make number one real simple, okay,
because we have dissed the Cards and we've discussed this
ad nauseam pretty much. But in a dynasty startup? Okay,
where are you drafting JJ weatherhold?

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Uh, he's a top five pick for me at the
moment from a minor league standpoint, I don't think he's
a first round pick. I would like to have him
coming out of the second.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Round though, Okay in the startup.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah, in the startup, I mean that's look, I mean
it's hard to find. I got hit number four right now.
Let's see. He is a little older though, so you're
definitely going to take Connor Griffin and hayesus my Day.
Connor Griffin is probably a first round pick. Hayesus my
Day is probably a second round pick. Yeah, I think

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Weatherhold's probably a late second round pick.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Impressive moving on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
If I think about it, that was a good question.
But if I thinking about like him and Dylan Cruz,
not as the same player, but how they're viewed as
a prospect. Back when he was available, Dylan Cruise was
available in first year of player drafts and had not
played at all in the mind in the major leagues
or just got a quick call up. I think you

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would have treated those guys the same, and I'm pretty
pretty sure Dylan Cruz Dylan Cruz went in the second round.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Yeah, that sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yeah, Okay, number two, we have Liam Doyle, a lefty
that went with the number five. I pick one hundred
and fifty four strikeouts in ninety five and two thurs innings.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Those are big numbers, aren't they.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I mean I've got him ranked number thirty five overall,
big fastball, great splitter. I think there's something here. And
it was one of the guys that I liked the
most going into the draft. It was my top pitcher
coming into the draft, probably seth Rnandez I should have
had him in front. But Liam Dole is a good

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pitcher and I think he's going to move fairly quickly.
I have seen a couple of games of him, and
he's pretty volatile in the man he gets his emotions
can get the best of him. So but otherwise, I
think there's something here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Okay, excellent dad.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Number three, we're gonna we're gonna dedicate this this player
to Bob King High my partner in D five. At
number three, we have Josh Biaz Are we to see
him in twenty six?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Rich you're trying to help me. You're trying to make
me figure out how the Cardinals are going to work. Look,
they got a whole new they got a hold so
high end Bloom is now in charge. He's been there
for a couple of years because you know, they can't
do anything fresh like most teams do, so that he's
been there learning the ropes. He's brought in a couple

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of new guys, a couple guys that I know, one
from the Houston Astros. So I'm hoping they turned their
front office around and get a little bit more aggressive
in their approach. Joshua Bias, I don't think is Connor
Griffin even though he went all Condor Griffin and everybody,
But he's a better player than most people fought. So

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I think there's something there. The speed is real, I
mean there's I think there's still gonna be some contact issues,
though his contact improved greatly in twenty and twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Okay, sounds good. At number four, we have chin Can.
If you had to make a decision today, what are
your odds on Tin Kent's being a starter or reliever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
That's when he was looking back where my AI assistant.
I thought he would drop ting Kents, but he likes them.
He's got him bring forth where I have him ranked,
because I mean, look, this guy has just never been
able to stay healthy. Stuff is great. I mean, at
some point the Cardinals or any team are just going
to say, we gotta we've gotta accelerate your path to

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the major leagues to get some value out of him.
So I think in most situations it's better to bet
on him coming up as a reliever. But the Cardinals, man,
they they love they love bringing guys up as starters,
and it's tink hint tink. Kents has definitely got a
starter repertoire, So I think with him he comes up

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as a starter. But long term, here asking me in
twenty twenty eight, I think he's a reliever with a
chance to be a closer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Okay, at number five, we have Quinn Matthews, another south paw,
the fastball in control of decline since his breakout in
twenty twenty four. But he's still pretty enticing thing, isn't it,
especially with that slider.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Got off to terrible start in twenty twenty five and
really really rallied towards the end of the season. In fact,
I was expecting him to see Saint Louis at the
end of the season, but they held him back. And
I can't help but thank that breakout season in twenty
twenty four, we led the minor leagues in one hundred
and forty three and a third innings. You know, basically

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set him back long term, right, you know, not long term, midterm,
and I think that's probably the reason he had some
control problems, some arm issues. But hopefully that'll be passed
and we'll see him get a chance in Saint Louis
and enough guy that I think is worthwhile of a
draft and hole target.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Okay, at number six, we have Renal Rodriguez from West
Philly or North Philly or somewhere in the Caribbean.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
That's an interesting story, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
A lot of kids do that, believe it or not.
They attend high school and the States, and then they
have relatives back in the Dominican and that's they'll go
and live there the back half of their senior year
and they'll be eligible to be picked, you know. So
that's that's what they'll do. And so they want to
get paid early and get into a major league organization,

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and that's what Rodrigue said. Rodriguez was one of the
better stories here in the minor leagues. I mean, he
was utterly dominating the Florida Complex League promoted to low way,
didn't play as well, but went on the high aid
to finish the season. I mean he was really really good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Yes, which leads us into another very young player, Eiro Padia.
I was following him the first half of the year
and then you sort of disappeared at the beginning of July.
I don't know if that's when the league ended, but
where potentially do you see Padilla a year from now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
There was a lot of healing for a Padia. I
know in our Dynasty League that people are really high
on him at the draft table, and I bought in
a little bit. I bought in earlier than I should have,
just because you had FuMO going on. I didn't want
to miss out. Yes, Complex leagues end early. Yeah, it's
only a two and a half one season. They start

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early now, so it ends the end the middle to
the end of July. That's why you don't see any
of the two thousand case twenty twenty five draftees playing
in the Complex League anymore. And there's complex leagues have
become heavily Latin oriented, so because those of the guys
go from the DSL to the Complex League. Uh. And

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you know, so there are a lot of Latin players
that anyway, I digress. Padilla's got big time raw skills.
He needs to get stronger. I think he will so,
but there's I mean there's I'm not saying it's it's
Edward Florentine, but Florentino, but it's that kind of skill

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set that you need to really monitor him very very closely.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
He's one of those players that you save those three
or four spots for it in every league.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
So yeah, I like to have two or three, three
or four slots, depending on the size of your mind.
I like to have those really high upside guys, and
Patia is going to be one of those. Again, you
got twenty roster response in your minor leagues and you
look down and everybody's a seventeen year old, eighteen year
old kid and complex league in low way, then you
got a problem. But you know, you need to have

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some of those.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, if you've got if you've got more than three
or four, then you're rebuilding forever.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Yes, And you're betting, you're betting all these guys are
going to make and they're just not. They're just not.
And then you're inevitably going to pick the wrong one
to drop.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
So in Murphy's law, right, yeah, at number eight we
have Blaze Jordan. Uh twenty twenty seven, give me a
projection for home runs and average OVP.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Blaize Jordans came over as a Red Sox, a huge
raw power when he was in high school, but the
power kind of went away when he became a professional
and he started to become a contact hitter. Then he
got traded to the Cardinals, and really the first time
he finally started to show more home run pop was
in twenty twenty five. He added leverage to a swing.

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So I kind of like the trans transition that Blaze
Jordan has made over time. Where he started, he's always been.
He kind of was a bad hitter when he first
started off, he became a better contactor, and now he's
at at leverage. There's definitely some platoons there, right, platoon
splits there. So I think there's maybe two to two
hundred and fifty at bats. I think we might see

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him midway through the season. I have to go to
roster resource to find out where the heck he's going
to play. I know that typically the Cardinals have got
a full roster of average players. So so I'm looking
in Yeah, first basis Wilson Contreras not gonna take his
job at third bases, all In Aeronato not gonna take

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his job, and we still got to fit in JJ.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Weatherhol Yeah, the Cardinals are the proverbial mess.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
They've got to sort some things out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Really, So I'm gonna say two fifty max at bats
so not number target for me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
No, okay, at number nine we have Jesus Baiaez. I'm
going to directly quote you the bat speed is real
and the power is coming.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Sounds very optimistic.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I think so. I think
he's going to power hitting infield. I'm not sure where
he's going to play. It's a bit stocky, big big butt,
you know. So I when I say strong lower half,
that's big butt. So there's not going to be a
ton of speed there. But you know, I think there's
there could be something there. So just look, I can

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tell you so I think the player is going to
be And then when I talk about certain players, make
sure you don't forget about this guy. This is bias.
If you've got room and you you know, just know
the player, you're going to get he could be a legitimate.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Ad Okay, and at number ten we have Okay, the
first name is going to get me I x A
n oh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
I knew how to pronounce it at one point. I
think it Isshan.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Okay Henderson Henderson, Yeah, yeah, all the numbers in twenty
five and I believe you're saying there's a past to
rebel relevance here.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Yeah, it's the guy that really blew up this season.
I wrote him at a bunch on our daily notes
and doesn't have the big fastball secondaries look good. I
am is a top fifty starting pitcher with some upside.
It's the guy that's on the rise.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Yeah, because I was going to say it's not like
the Cardinals couldn't use another starting pitcher.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Correct, Correct, And I will say this top ten is
stronger than it's been for a long time with the Cardinals.
It's a good top ten and it does fall off,
but it's a really strong top ten because Ishan Henderson
at number ten, the guy who chanced to be a
mid rotation starter that's actually pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Good and we could see him in this coming season.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Correct, Yes, Okay, there's our top ten out of the
card system. Anybody else you want to discuss my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Yeah, chen wee Lynn. He throws one hundred miles an hour,
great look and change up. He has no idea where
the ball is going.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Uh so nobody's digging and digging in against his kids.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
I'm assuming he's got a change up that comes that
ninety two miles an hour. So it's it's big boy stuff.
He needs a better slider. I don't know if you'll
ever get that. I mean, he's still very young always
I'm sorry, he's twenty three years old, but he's up
to double A. But he needs to get better command
of his pitches. But it's an interesting guy that maybe

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one one year is going to come in with better
control and a better slider, and all of a sudden
there could be something there. So I get the fantasy feeling.
He's a wide variance, but likely a bullpen arm, maybe
a closer. So it's a lot of words. It means,
I'm not sure what this guy is, but he's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Well, and he's six seven. He's a big kid.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Yeah, yeah, chen we lended. That's just that Chinese or Korean.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
I believe that's probably of the CPBO, the Taiwanese, the
League out of Taiwan.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Yeah, that's what it sounds like. I think that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Yeah, yeah, yep, which that would that would be my guess.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
So he's either Taiwanese or if China has her way,
he will be Chinese. I think, yeah, take over Taiwan.
So we'll have to see how that plays itself out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
But yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, there there could
be a mean Land League sometime in the next ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
All right, take our final break, come back. I got
one question for you, and that's so I asked him
when to get back, the same question I ask all
the time. Yeah, fifteen minutes over.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
That's a horrible no.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
No, there's a lot to discuss in these system is
rich So yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
I think the American League Center will go faster because
the systems aren't quite as good there. So but so
that'll be next. So, Timmy, out of all the players,
including last week's h Cubs and Reds, give me a
player or two that you didn't know a ton about
before you started doing the research and preparing for this

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that you have now think that guy find very.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Interesting well looking looking at the Cubs, it doesn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
A player from each each team by the way, just.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Okay, yeah, yeah, Wiggans in in Chicago, yep, that's yeah,
that definitely stands out for me. Uh, when I get
looking at the Brewers, I'm developing a lust for Cooper Pratt.
You should oh, yeah, that's that definitely has my attention.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
And the Pirates. I know it was the.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Arizona Fall League and all, but it's hard to ignore
as Merlin bold as it really is. And I'm a
sucker for lefty pitchers. So Hunter Barco definitely fits the
bill in a big way. And you know, you start
looking at at the Cards and Blaze Jordan intrigues me.

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I I'll be I will be very, very interested to
see what the what the Cards do with that situation.
So there's there's a few names that that stand out
stand out to me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Rich Is JJ Weatherhold going to be overdrafted?

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Yes, he will be.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
I would love I would love to have him on
the team, but I don't know if that's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
I traded I to make my run in the XFL.
I traded Weatherhold near the trade deadline in the x FL,
and I felt I felt bad about it at the time.
But I'm a lot more okay with it now than
I was three weeks after I meet the deal, if
that makes sense. No, I'm I'm just not confident that

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Saint Louis will sort through all of the crap and
put together which should be their best team. I'm just
concerned there. And I know how many shares of weatherhold
I will have this year, probably next to unless I'm
doing draft and holds and he falls a bit. I'm
just going to stay away from that confusing roster situation

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until the Cards straighten it out. To me, that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Yeah, the Cards obviously have a chance to straighten it
out because it's new leadership now, so give them a
gear if they If they don't straighten it out, it's
the same old stuff. Then we just know that the
processes are endemic to that organization. But I'm hoping that
Bloom will bring a new perspective. I know he's bringing
in some outside talent, and particularly I'm a player development standpoint,

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acquisition standpoint to make sure they're targeting the right guy.
So let's let's hope that's that works. And it please
if anybody in the Cardinals organization is listening to this,
you gotta you gotta start the season with jj Weatherholt
is either your third basement and you're set somewhere. He
should be penciled into the opening day starting lineup period

(01:20:22):
end of statement.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Yeah, and Josh Bias should not be in the minors
until twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Yeah, So that there's there's my concerns about Saint Louis.
It's the state of the state of the Union in
Saint Louis, and I'm probably going to strive to stay
away from players in that organization until I see something
positive that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Leads me to believe we're moving forward not sideways.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
I think that's disappointing but totally fair. I mean, it's
just it's almost the way I feel about the Rockies.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Like, yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
It's just like how many times you have to get
burned by I mean, Jordan Walker is a perfect example.
I mean, maybe I over estimated his ability, maybe you
did as well, but it just seems like he just did.
He's gonna. It feels like he's going to get traded
and all of a sudden, you're gonna You're gonna On
July fifteenth, the next one of the All Star teams.

(01:21:23):
He's going to be out, He's going to be an
All Star.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Yeah. I just find I use the word exasperated we
too much when looking at that current situation. And hey,
when I when I get to that stage, I have
a tendency to undervalue, undervalue players.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
But it's it just is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
And until something changes, how how how should I, you know,
adapt to that and look at that situation.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
I think have to do it with eyes open, right, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
My final comment and then we'll get out of here.
Is anybody who Patreon members or if you just looked
at on prospect three sixty one, any Brewer just get
them there? Besides Tyler Black just kidding, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Yeah, good timing, Rich, good time. He read my mind
like a cheap book there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
I just I just think that system is stacked. I
love the way the Brewers develop pitching. They've done a
really good job, a really good job at at signing
international players and developing kids. I mean, they're I think
they're clicking on all cylinders. And I do believe in
that Wall Street Journal article that I read that that

(01:22:40):
the world should be rooting for the Brewers against the
Dodgers in that series and they got swept by the Dodgers.
But I still think that's a team that's on the rise.
They've decided not to do it with high end free
agent spending, and they're doing it all from developing kids within.
I think it's going to I think it's already worked,
but I think it's going to yield at least a
word World Series appearance at some point.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
I agree when you look at the young talent that
they have, you know, hey, pulling the same thing they
did with Cherio, you know, six seven year deal, buying
out some free agency, get that core in there in
place for a four or five year period, They're going
to be a strong team for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
I think it's the right way for the Brewers to roll.
And I agree, I think there's going to be a
World Series in their future.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Yep. It's it's unfortunate. Freddy Peralta is probably not going
to be a guy they're going to be able to retain.
But ms Rowski's looked good. I mean, I just think
they're doing it the right way and with that, Timmy,
we're going to do you not take a five minute break,
get some water, coffee for you, potty break, and then
we're going to be back doing the show that you'll
hear before this one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
And again, as always, Rich I thank you for the
opportunity to discuss these prospects. It's always fun and great
job in bringing it my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Thanks them.