The Cycle: Rounding The Bases (Ep. 1038)

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello everybody, and welcome back into another episode of the cycle.
I am not Ryan Warmley. I am your host, Mike Mayer,
and I am joined today by Kelly Kirby, who I
think because you're gonna be on the show next week
as well, I believe you're gonna be here for three
weeks in a row. Is that right?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I that is correct. I don't know why I don't
get my own, like, you know, to start picture competition
at this point, but I'll just keep filling in for
you guys.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's true. We should just expand the contest for the
three of us, and even when you're not on the show,
have you submit a pick so that we can you know,
we can follow along. We should probably do that, probably
a little late to do it retroactively, but I'm sure
Worm will give you the Shane smith starts if you
want those to start with.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, for sure. He was really happy about my my
Shane Smithy like gift to him. But you know, I
didn't burn anybody good, so that's fine. Today I'm burning
somebody good.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, I saw that, but we want to boil that.
That's two videos from now. So I have a few
different segments here at the top for rounding the basis.
So I'm going to jump right into the first one.
I wanted to do kind of a fun burning question segment.
It felt like a good time a year to do it,
and I have a handful of questions that I'm going
to you know, toss at you, give a little bit

(01:20):
of context and we can go back and forth. Does
that sound good to you? Not that it matters, we're
doing it either way.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I mean, really, yeah, it doesn't matter, but that sounds wonderful,
great idea my ear.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
All right, okay, Burning question number one perfect? What are
you doing with Spencer Stryder now that he's back and
things are not going great? Do? I mean you can't
drop him obviously, like we're not in drop territory, but
like can you can you keep running him out there?
He's ras five six'. Eight some of his expected numbers

(01:49):
are even worse than, that nineteen strikeouts and nineteen. Innings
but it just he hasn't looked like, himself which is somewhat.
Understandable but also he looks like a early usable pitcher
in fantasy right.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Now, YEAH i MEAN i think that if it's a shallow,
LEAGUE i could drop him because my biggest problem with
him at this point is that is the strikeout rate
is so low compared to what he usually. Was right
so in twenty twenty, two twenty twenty, three he's at
thirty eight, percent thirty six, percent and he is down
to twenty three percent right. Now And i'm sort of

(02:23):
that mindset where if he's not striking out that many,
guys then what are we holding on to him? For
that's his you, know that's one of the best reasons
to have. Him and AND i MEAN i WOULD i
could handle a higher, WHIP i could handle a higher
anything if that strikeout percentage was.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Better and it's just Not, yeah and it's a you,
know you you mentioned the strikeout, percentages which are a
lot of people in the industry have you, know moved
towards as a more accurate indicator of. Strikeouts if you're
more of the traditional kper, nine it's exactly, nine which
is still. Good but his career caper nine is over.
Thirteen so it just shows you how far down we

(03:00):
are from. There you, know Nine for most, pictures you'll
take that that's really, good but For Spencer strider it
means no. Bueno so what about in like a roto,
league like a standard road, league are you still starting?
Him you, know let's say in our league where we're
in the bottom two in the standings and we need,
everything we're so.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Bad, yes, yeah no. Starting, NO i mean unless he,
starts unless he's got like The rockies in The White
sox lined up in one, week if there's one iffy.
GAME i just at this point don't want to run
him out. There and, right we're not sure what's. Wrong
we're not sure like if this is just him working
his way, back we're not sure if this is an

(03:43):
actual issue like that is going to continue to. Exist
so if it's a weekly, league not, again it has
to be two really sweet starts for me to throw him.
Out but, YEAH i mean in twelve fifteen team, leagues, like,
yeah you. Can't you can't drop, him like because He's Spencer.
Schrider so it's kind of that idea that name recognition
should get you. Something so if there's somebody that you,

(04:05):
want you may be selling as low as you can On,
strider but if it helps, you like right, now then
you know you might as well throw it out. There
see if somebody wants, Him.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah THAT'S i was going to bring that up. Next
that's kind of the uh you mentioned name. Recognition that's
kind of how you would be selling. Low you would
have to hope that you're selling, low but that that
low is like a little bit higher because his name
Is Spencer strider and you can get maybe fair value for,
him or something close to fair. Value you're not going
to get like Old Spencer strider, value but you can

(04:36):
get you, know a little bit better than his numbers
value in. Return so, YEAH i think IF i have,
him it would pain me to shop, him especially after
like stashing him for this. SONG i Think i'm still
running them out there In roto and just like hoping
for the best because chances ARE i need him IF
i stashed him AND i use that draft pick on,

(04:56):
him and So i'm just putting him out there and
closing MY a lesser name Is Addison barger, Legit And
i'll give you a little bit of context there and
not just toss you that. Question but he's been, really
really good. Lately he let's see his numbers on the.
Year his numbers on the year don't look as. Fantastic

(05:20):
two sixty six, average six home runs and forty games
two ninety five expected batting, average but of late he's
been a lot. Better so In may he batted two
ninety two with four home. Runs you know that was
after not playing all a ton in the first month
of the season he batted one eighty five and parts
of ten. Games but In may played every, day two ninety,
two four home, runs and already In june he has

(05:43):
two home runs in the first three. Games AND i
just don't really know what to make of. Him, he's you,
know LIKE i, said he's not really a name that you,
know he's a he's not like a highly touted. Prospect
he's twenty five years. Old we've seen a little bit
of of him, before he came up a little bit last,
year AND i don't, know, like do you think this

(06:04):
is like him taking the next step and he's going
to be like a steady starter and like someone you
can use in fantasy or is just this just like
a prolonged hot streak and we won't know who he
is next.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
YEAR i, MEAN i THINK i was leaning toward prolonged hot.
Streak but he's also you, know playing third, base so
he might as well write it a little. Bit BUT
i also you. Know SO i looked up a stackcast
page and his expected numbers are are. Good he's pretty
red all the way. Through BUT i was looking, like, okay,

(06:35):
like you, know is he striking out at this giant,
Clip and he's kind of right around the fiftieth percentile
And Chase swift strikeout and walk. Percentage so as long
as he stays there, where it's not this year trying
to exchange you, know like home runs for a thirty
five percent, strikeout, RIGHT i think it's possibly. Sustainable and
even if he just stays right where he is a

(06:56):
two sixty six, average he has almost as many home
runs this year year as he did all of last
year and like one hundred fewer at bats, like SO
i would say he's. LEGIT i would SAY i will
also probably forget about him next. Year so does that make?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Sense, YEAH i think it's legit in the. Moment we
he has shown some power in the past in the,
minors like not in the in the last couple of.
Years but in twenty twenty two he hit twenty six
home runs in twenty two games Across DOUBLE a And
TRIPLE a with an average above three. Hundred so that's not,
nothing and then he's just kind of like been fine

(07:33):
at the minor league, level which seems like what is you,
know if he's going to be a major, leaguer that's
probably what his destiny is there. Too he's just going
to be. FINE i could see him being someone we
like stream on and off our roster for the next
few years with you, know the occasional hot streak like.
This so let's move on to the next. One and
this next burning QUESTION i have for, you is this

(07:54):
what The Junior Camin arrow breakout looks? Like AND i say,
THIS i like to listen to THE cbs guys know
not to you, know Tout arrival, podcast BUT i think
they do a good job AND i like to listen
to them as. Well you, know there's room for everybody
on my podcast. Feed and something they say sometimes, is you,
know they're asking if a player is breaking, out and they,
said if he is breaking, out this is what it

(08:16):
would look. Like and SO i ask you For Junior
cameronaro with you, know how he's doing right. Now he's
don in two fifty eight with fourteen home, runs four stolen,
bases and he's been In may batted two seventy six
with seven home, runs and it just seems, like you,
KNOW i was a little skeptical coming into the. Year

(08:37):
it seemed like some people were kind of drafting him
out of a, ceiling WHICH i hate. Doing but so far
looks pretty. Good and he is someone who you, know
has some kind of, prospect some prospect. Pedigree he's, younger
he's still twenty one years. Old he was about to
turn twenty, two so we'll call him twenty two years.
Old but hitting in the middle of that lineup, again
as you mentioned third, base where you, know people really

(08:59):
need third base. Help and if you drafted Junior, cameronaro
you're probably feeling pretty good right, now especially with like
five usable third basemen in, fantasy you're probably pretty happy
to have. Him so is this what the junior Kamen
aero breakout looks?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
LIKE i, MEAN i think so like this this is
kind of what we, expected, Right like you, said they
were people were drafting at a, Ceiling but, like is
this the? Ceiling AND i THINK i think you kind
of got him actually a little bit lower than his.
Ceiling if he continues on this, Path ALL i know is,
that like through most Of, may we have our home
run contest on our, discord and it was LIKE i

(09:36):
kept asking myself WHY i wasn't Calling Junior cameronaro because
it just seemed like he homered every single day and
yet still never called. Him so he is definitely. HOT
i think it's like you, said everything else comes into
play their third. Base he's in PRETTY i, mean The
rays are decent at. Least, Yeah SO i think he'll
just keep hitting and he's good to have on a. Roster.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
YEAH i think you made a good point there that
we don't know what the ceiling. IS i don't think this,
is you, know especially as a twenty two year, old
not twenty. ONE i don't think this is the. CEILING
i think he, has you, know room to get even.
Better and so if you're getting this production out of, him,
already enjoy. It don't sell, high just keep writing. Him

(10:19):
anyone with a pulse at third base is usable right,
now and he has a very good. Pulse so enjoy
another third. BASEMENT i didn't intend to do all third
basement with these burning. QUESTIONS i didn't realize that until
we started. Talking my next burning question is did glasses
Fix Max? Muncy because there's this kind of phenomenon right
now where he got glasses to. FIX i THINK i

(10:40):
believe it was a stigmatism and since that, happened he's
been really, good AND i think it was about. It
it's a little over a month, now so let's just
call It. May you, know this is a guy who
always has good, power but his betting average is you,
know sometimes around like two hundred if you're. Lucky and
so you can see In march And april bat at

(11:00):
one ninety four with just one home, run and since
In may he betted two fifty with five home, runs
and it's very small sampasized In. June but In june
he's batting three h eight with three more home, runs
and people are, wondering is this just the New max?
Monthly like was he just having trouble seeing the ball
and was just you, know is this a new version

(11:22):
or do you think this is just kind of a
Coincidence and it's you, know, again it's like a hot,
streak and you know it's not we have seen this
before From Max monsey where he gets really. Hot it's
a lot of home runs and you, know he's. Fine
it's kind of where the numbers settle but do you
think this is a New Max monsey or do you
think this is just Another max monzly like.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Streak, YEAH i MEAN i looked up his, age so
he's going to turn thirty five In. August and for
everyone who's younger than thirty five out, listening at some
point your eyes will just fall off a cliff and
you will suddenly not be able to see everything you
used to be able to. See and for some people
ON i think thirty five is where that. Happens for,
me it was, like literally DAY i turned forty, one

(12:02):
all of a, SUDDEN i just couldn't read anything. Right
so let's give the glasses some. Credit and maybe that
definitely helped him to adjust back to like seeing the ball.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Better.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Right he's also A Max, moncy SO i don't think
this is going to suddenly fix the batting. AVERAGE i
don't think this is gonna suddenly make him not strike
out as much LIKE i feel, like you, know he
maybe he'll be the Good Max moncy for, longer or
like these hot streaks will last a little bit, longer
but you have got to watch, out BECAUSE i think
the bad streaks are still just gonna. Come it's just

(12:32):
a matter of like how infrequently they'll be there now
that he can.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
See SO i can actually relate to, this not as
a you, know WHEN i was thirty, FIVE i didn't get.
Glasses but WHEN i was in high school playing, BASEBALL
i was a really good pitcher and a really good
fielder and like a mediocre, Hitter LIKE i was, fast
BUT i had like no, power and my batting average was.
Poor AND i always especially as you get into high
school and you start you, know seeing like you, know

(12:58):
curveballs and. Stuff you're talking to like coaches and other
hitters and they talk about like looking at the, seams
And i'm, like what are you guys talking. ABOUT i
can't see the. SEAMS i just see like a white.
Blur and it turned OUT i needed. Glasses and ONCE,
i ONCE i played glasses on her were. CONTACTS i was, like,
OH i can see the seams NOW i could see
what you guys talking. About before it was just like
this floating white what white blob at. Me it didn't

(13:21):
really make me much better of a, hitter but it
was fascinating to see the. Difference SO i whenever someone
has like a eyesight change like, That i'd always, like
and it always reminds me of exactly what. Happened and
now on this, show you know that we Consider Ranger
suarez potentially the best picture in baseball for many, reasons

(13:46):
most of them because he was really good at the
start of last year and so now he started the
year on the injured, list he worked his way, back
and since coming, back he's been. Good and SO i
ask you this burning, question how back Is Rain.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
SUAREZ i, MEAN i think he's back to a top
five pitcher based on this on the, site on the cycles.
Recommendations so, YEAH i, mean he looks. Good The afhillies are.
Good you, know he's got four wins in the six,
games AND i know that again we don't chase, wins
but he puts himself in a position to get, them
and that's and he's just kind of always put himself

(14:22):
in a position to get. THEM i feel, Like, so,
yeah he's he's. Back he's The Ranger swaz. BACK i.
GUESS i, MEAN i think that some of his numbers
are going to jump up a little, bit like there's
no way he's going to end up with two seven two,
Ya but, YEAH i, mean And i'm looking at it
like third, base maybe a, desert but starting pitching for
me has been a, mess and so If suarez is

(14:46):
sitting out there or somebody interested in unloading, HIM i
would be interested in having him at this.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Point, YEAH i, mean we joke about him being the
best picture in, Baseball Like worm AND i talked about
this a few weeks. AGO i don't even remember why
we say that. ANYMORE i think it was like at
one point in the beginning of twenty twenty, four he
was like the only person with a complete game shutout or.
Something it was something like That worm thought he threw
a perfect. GAME i was, like get out of. Here
he didn't after a perfect. Game it was just a.

(15:11):
Shutout but he's just so there's been like good and
so we consider him the.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Best you.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Know it's kind of just a running joke that we
like to bring up on the. Show but, YEAH i
agree with what you. SAID i am in a bunch
of leagues WHERE i got up to slow starts with,
hitting AND i had a bunch of pitching, surplus and
SO i traded my pitching to get more, hitting and like,
that hitting also hasn't really worked, out and so now
they just bolt stink so When worm checked in on

(15:39):
our leagues a few weeks, AGO i you, KNOW i
THINK i said a couple, Leaks i'm doing really poorly
in the Couple i'm in the, middle and the Couple
i'm doing really. Well now it's like a complete. Split
i'm either like really bad or like first or second
place in the. League my crowning jewel right now is
THAT i joined one Of worm's leagues and it was
it's like a keeper dynasty, hybrid AND i took over

(16:00):
the worst Orphan i've ever, seen and to the point
where even WHEN i, drafted they were, like, oh that
was a really good. Draft like you don't have a
chance at making the playoffs because of what you, inherited
but like that was a good, start And i'm doing
really well in that, league and So i'm very happy about.
THAT i don't know how if we'll be able to
keep it. Going BUT i don't really know WHY i

(16:22):
got on a tangent about. That but you, Know Ranger
swarz just gets me pumped. Up so he does.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Seem to get you really excited e free time we've
talked about, him so you, know good for.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
You there's just certain players that do it for, Me Ryan,
Mountcastle Ranger, suarez Uh Ty France Ty.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
France, yeap.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
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(17:26):
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(17:48):
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Speaker 2 (17:59):
Want, yes, yeah we've we've been on a roll lately
of jerseys THAT i.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
WANT i was gonna, ask were you A Sessil fielder
fan growing?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
UP i, Was, YEAH i loved.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
HIM i THOUGHT i liked all the like all the
big meaty, sluggers LIKE i Liked. CESSFIELDER i really Liked Frank,
thomas Like andre Scalar. RAGA i liked all those big.
GUYS i actually this is a stupid. Story but in middle,
SCHOOL i forget what we had to like dress up
for we had to do like a, report AND i

(18:30):
forget what it. Was it was on like A hero
or something like, that AND i did mine On Frank
thomas and THEN i didn't know, This but like when
you when you had to read the, report you had
to dress as that. Person but, LIKE i JUST i
could not have mailed it in. Anymore LIKE i didn't
go any you, KNOW i. DIDN'T i was no in
no danger of being canceled as a twelve year. Old

(18:52):
BUT i just wore A Frank thomas jersey and showed
up to do my. Report AND i was, like, Hey
I'm Frank. Thomas you KNOW i didn't even LIKE i
didn't even like wear baseball. PANTS i just wore like
my normal clothes and then A Frank thomas.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Chersey whatever gets it. Done you graduated from that, grade so?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Fun, uh all, right we, could you, know we could
just go off the rails and just do what we
did on leading, off like name like old exposed players
if you, want name all of our Old Ken Kevin
eddy favorite uh.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Sluggers we totally could, have all. RIGHT i always forget about,
him but, yeah WELL i was once in A i
was once in a bar. MEET i met a friend
of mine's boyfriend and and he played baseball and he was,
LIKE i don't remember what he, said something about switch
hitting and power power. Guys AND i was, like are

(19:48):
we really not going to talk About Eddie? Murray and
he looked at me and was, like, oh you are
so In and my friend was, like do you want
to date? Her LIKE i, mean he was LIKE i said,
that and he would not shut up about it for
the rest of the. Night AND i was, like, yeah, no,
WORRIES i don't want to date. Him but in, general
like you just kind of have those people that stick
in your, mind And, palmerolls Pal merrells one of the other.

(20:10):
ONES i Think i'm secretly An orioles.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Fan, yeah well he's don't tell, worm he might find.
Out he's always a fun one, because like you, know
with all like the steroid. Stuff he was like in
court and he was, LIKE i have never done. Steroids
and then like the next day he like came out
that he. Did he like tested. Positive so that was
embarrassing for, him but everybody did it back, then so

(20:33):
it is what it, is all, right Second, base we're
off the, rails but we'll get, well we'll get back on.
HERE i wanted to do buy or sell with, You
and this is a little bit similar to LIKE i,
said we talked about before the. Show it was a
little bit similar to burning. Questions BUT i wanted To
i'm going to throw a handful of statements at, you
and you tell me if you're buying or selling them

(20:54):
at face? Value and do you want context for? These
do you want me to just throw you the question
or the.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Statement and just throw them to. Me we'll see what
We we'll see what we, do all.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right first buyer sales. Statement lance mccullors is so BACK.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I. AM i Mean i've never been in On lance
mccullors like, ever but you, KNOW i like his strikeout right.
Now see if he If strider was doing what mcculor
seems to be, Doing like he's got a twenty eight
point ninety five k, percentage you, know with this terrible
ra and, whip like he's four point four four one
point four, right but he's striking out a lot of
people THAT i could get. Behind so in terms of like,

(21:33):
BACK i mean SURE i was never excited about him,
before And i'm about as excited about him, now but
like once again starting, Pitching So i'll take the strikeout
rate at this.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
POINT i feel LIKE i rostered him In dynasty for
years and just like suffered through all the injuries and
just like have him had him like taking up an
injured reserve slot for so LONG i THINK I i think
maybe like this, YEAR i finally dropped, him and like
now of course he's like back and like and he
doesn't look but he looks like he's like doing. Things
LIKE i thought it might be a train wreck when

(22:03):
he came, back but he's kind of reinvented. Himself he's
like throwing that curveball and thirty three strikeouts of twenty
four and third and so already better THAN i. Expected
AND i think someone you can pick up in you,
know twelve team roto and, deeper probably not any shower than.
That are you buying or? Selling and this is a

(22:25):
good one for you as A cubs fan and as
someone who was in on this player coming into the.
Season are you buying or selling The Matt shaw? Reboot?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah last week on the, SHOW i talked about like
things That i'd, learned, right and one of the THINGS
i said was that you want a rookie in his
second stint in the. Majors AND i Think mattshaw is
like the example of, that where whether or not HE
i think that he will provide some fantasy value for
the rest of the. Year So i'm buying it And
i'm also just buying. That AS i said before the,

(22:55):
season The cubs have no one. ELSE i, mean they
might as well give him as long as a run
as he, wants because Running Justin turner out there is
not going to do anybody any, good so including The.
Cubs SO i feel like the second time, up he's
gonna he's gonna settle into at least being a serviceable fantasy.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
OPTION i would love for him to not bat ninth.
ANYMORE i ACTUALLY i forget WHAT i traded for. Him
it was it was a bigger, trade BUT i acquired
him in a league WHERE i needed a third baseman
with a warm body BECAUSE i Lost Alec, bregman AND
i need a stolen basis and he's someone who can.
Run In, may he bat at three fifty, nine no home,
runs but three fifty nine and five stolen. BASES i

(23:35):
think that brings him up to what does he have
in the year? Seven, Now, no he just dos. Five
so he has five since coming, back, though but all In,
may AND i think only in eleven. Games and so
if he can give me like a middle of the
road average steal some, BASES i don't know how much
power we're going to get but maybe it's do you,
know if he plays the rest of the, Year i'll
take ten home, runs two fifty, average, yep twenty stolen

(23:58):
bases at third. BASE i could use that for, sure for,
sure buy or Cell jack cagleone is a league.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Winner, Yeah i'll actually go with. IT i DON'T i don't.
Know WHAT i know IS i got really mad during
an auction in one of my leagues and he came,
up AND i wasn't really like super familiar with, him
BUT i. Was we it's a thing where if you

(24:28):
you can draft rookies and they cost you nothing for
like a certain number of. Years AND i KNOW i
had gotten outbid but on someone, else like it might
have Been Roman, anthony like an Absurd it was. Absurd
SO i was, Like i'm getting this guy no matter.
What so SO i just have. Him, so, YEAH i
would like him to be a league. Winner that would
be really helpful for. Me but if HE i just

(24:48):
think that he is The he's the answer for a
lot of power. SITUATIONS i just really want him to
be able to adjust to the. Hitting and even his
first game going over, five but, man he hit the
ball like that thing was, jumping So i'm, like, YEAH
i think he could bring you home a.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Title it was over five but no, strikeouts and it
was like three or four really hard hit balls to
just like unfortunately right at, people or you, know he got.
Robbed it's funny looking at his suspected. Stats he's only
played one, game so he's zero for five with a
zero batting average and an expected batting average of two eighty.
Two so if you want to look for a really

(25:27):
large gap in average to expect that average zero to
two eighty, two it was about as big as you're gonna.
Say we've talked about a bunch on the. Show these
young hitters come, up and it's not like it used
to be where hitters, came you, know came up and
kind of hit the ground running most of the, time
or at least more often than. Not now it's extremely
common to come up and. Struggle pitching is just so,

(25:50):
hard so far ahead of hitting right, now and it
seems like the gap Between TRIPLE a pitching and Maj
ley pitching is, enormous and so even the best prospects
just have to adjust and it takes. Time HE i
don't want to say he's the, exception but he does
seem like if anyone was going to come up and
hit right, away it seems like he might be the
one just with that, power because he doesn't even like

(26:12):
in the miners he was hitting over three hundred with
with all that, power he doesn't even need to do.
That he can hit two fifty to sixty and they
have that power stroke and be incredibly. Valuable So i'm.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Also OF i also, think, WELL i was just gonna,
SAY i also think that like Unlike Roman, anthony, right,
like he just skyrocketed through the, miners and so he
hasn't had all this time to get all this hype
to like come. Up you, know it's, like, yeah we're
all interested in, him but it hasn't been years upon
years of, oh they have this guy in the pipeline
and some day he'll make it to the. Majors AND i,

(26:45):
MEAN i GUESS i don't know If Roman anthony will
ever get, there but not if the whatever The Red
sox are. Doing but, yeah and SO i feel like
there's just less pressure on. Him also being In Kansas,
city it's just less, pressure and so that sometimes makes
it EASIER i think for players to adjust quickly.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
YEAH i, mean he was drafted last year and he's
already in the in the. Matrix you, know he he you,
know he had his little taste last year of playing
in HIGH, a and then you know this year he
just flew Through DOUBLE, A TRIPLE a and they were,
like all, right it's. Time but, YEAH i think if
anyone's going to hit the ground, running it's it's probably.
Him AND i was going to say, Before i'm also

(27:23):
of the belief that find, out you, know, like spend
the fab and find, out because the worst that happens
is you're wrong and you lost some fab and you
have to drop him or you, know you trade. Him
but there are every now and then these players who
come up and they are league, winners and it kind
of looks Like Piker armstrong might be one of those league.

(27:44):
Winners despite all of my And i'm not, alone but
all the people saying that we can sell high on Peak, Armstrong,
no apparently, not because apparently he's just really good buyer.
Sell Mackenzie gore is a bona fide. Ace, now.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh what is a bonafide? Ace, Yeah i'll take. IT
i have him in a FEW i drafted him a
lot of. Leagues, actually and just BECAUSE i loved the strikeout.
RAID i thought HE i liked all of his, numbers
like the underlying numbers looked. Good SO i don't know
necessarily how we quantify a bonafide, ace But i'm not

(28:24):
sure like how His i'm not sure how his numbers don't.
Qualify so, Yeah i'll take.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Him do you know where he is on the list
of strikeout leaders this?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
SEASON i is he near the? TOP i can't remember.
ONE i just saw, it BUT i don't remember him number.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
One, yeah he has one o eight And Gara, crochet
who is famously not good according To, welsh has one oh,
one the only two pictures with over one, hundred Although
schoogle has ninety.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
NINE i mean we're talking k, Percentage like he his
strikeout rate is thirty.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
FIVE i was gonna to bring that. Up it's more
than the third of the batters he's facing he's, striking
which is.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Insane, yeah, yeah, no love. Him.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
YEAH i know friend at the, Show Brandon, tuma it
was long, ago a big McKenzie gore. Fan i'm in
a bunch Of dynasty leagues with, him and you, know
we've been talking about Mackenzie gore for, years AND i
know he's probably very excited about. This McKenzie, gore you,
know because he saw this four years ago and it's
kind of we kind of haven't seen it materialize Until
AND i, mean he was fine last, year quietly good last,

(29:33):
year but now this is another level and he's still
it feels like he's been around for a long a.
While we have almost like post prospect fatigue with. Him
but he's still twenty six seon his birthday Is, yeah
he's still twenty. Six he's still in the first half
of twenty six and, YEAH i mean one hundred eight
strikeouts and seventy five and a third innings thirty five

(29:55):
point four percent strikeout rate is.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Bonkers his his walk percentage has also dropped every year
he's been in the, majors which is another sign of
bona fide acery in my.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Head, yeah and the whip in. GENERAL i was expecting
to like be, like all, right we're getting the, strikeouts
what's the whip back because it's been in like one point.
FOUR i was, like all, right maybe it's like one point,
two one point, three it's one point one. Four still really?
Good have you moved him in your rankings, yet have
you updated your rankings not to put you on the.
SPOT i.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
CANNOT i did update, them BUT i can't remember WHAT
i did with.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
HIM i put him top twenty five if, Five, OKAY
i put him right before the. Show he's at twenty.
Three And i'm really struggling with WHERE i Put Spencer
strider on that list BECAUSE i had him very high
AND i just keep dropping, him And i'm, like DO
i Drop Spencer strider Behind Mackenzie gore because it feels

(30:50):
LIKE i probably have.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
TO i THINK i Dropped strider a lot the other,
day so that was kind of my big pitching.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Move, yeah that's a tough, one all. Right this one
isn't necessarily, fantasy but it could be fantasy. Adjacent buy or?
Sell The tigers are AN al penant, Contender, YES.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I will absolutely buy. THAT i think that they have
THE i think they kind of have an all around good.
TEAM i think they play in a division that is a,
mess so they and and, REALLY i mean at this,
point like THE al just kind of seems messy all
the way around to. Me everybody's got these flaws and
whenever you can look at like basically all of the

(31:36):
all the division leaders and point out immediately a glaring.
Flaw then, yeah it's. Anybody so, Yeah i'll take The.
Tigers i'll be. Fine what are their odds to? Win
have you?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
SEEN i have not looked at, them BUT i just
know that they have the best record in THE. Al
they have the best picture in THE. Al, yes and
if you look at their lineup and their whole, rosters a,
whole it's, like it's not very, sexy it's not very.
Exciting it's just, like all, right that's a. GUY i
know that, guy all. Right like then they're schoobl who
obviously is, incredible but they're doing a lot of platuning

(32:08):
in their. Lineup they just Got Parker meadows, back so
we'll see what he looks. Like he's you, know if
if you need outfield help and deep outfield, leagues take
a look At Parker. Meadows if he can stay, healthy
he has. Talent he just hasn't been able to stay
healthy in the. Past Labor torres is doing. Things Javier,
bias he's, been he's been. WHATEVER i don't know, HOW

(32:30):
i don't get.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
It, ye The tigers are plus three, sixty all, right
SO i think only The yankees have a better, One
SO i, mean why? Not why not? THEM i mean
Jav bios has a, ring.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah so historicals and slowed down a little. Bit, UNFORTUNATELY
i just dropped him in a shallow, league mostly BECAUSE
i needed the roster. Spot BUT i might pick him back,
up but no one else takes. Him BUT i picked Up,
gaglione you, know as the mystery box, player AND i
already Had Soda strom who was bouncing between outfield and first.

(33:05):
Base and the other thing About aglione is he should
be playing, outfield so right now is on the first base.
Eligible he should be first base outfield, eligible which is.
Helpful but Turkle sin has slowed down after a hot,
start SO i dropped, him BUT i you, know still
a decent source of power.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
There.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
YEAH i had a friend earlier this, year like When
Javier byas was like batting three, million he like Swore
Javier bias was, back AND i was, like, dude he's not.
Back he maybe never, was but, like LIKE i get
that he's always outperformed his, metrics but like it's not.
Happening he's, like, Dude Like i'm watching the games he's,

(33:47):
back AND i was, like all, right well we'll talk In. July.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, no he's in The hall Of fame of tag
outs at second base and after that likes a category and.
Fantasy we'll let that. Ride it might be if you
have a. Chance that's a great highlight film on. YouTube
it's just his tagouts of steel attempts are.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Amazing it might be a category in that league That
worm invited me. TO i was, like heading into the,
DRAFT i was looking at the scoring settings and outfield.
Desists we're a category AND i was, like, dude what
are we doing? Here why is this on this? League
and he's, like, well you don't think they? Matter, NO
i don't care about. THEM i don't want to count.
Them so my goal is to vote that out of a.

(34:32):
League but you, Know i'm Sure i'm in the minority.
There it's the, newcomer all, Right moving right. Along let's
go over to third base, now and this is where
we're just going to hit on some news notes and
injuries really, quick And i'll see if you have any
thoughts on. Them serum AND i are beginning a rehab
assignment On. Friday he's SOMEONE i stashed in a couple of.
Leagues was really hoping for him to be back before,
now so glad to have him back at, all BUT

(34:56):
i was hoping to have him Before, june that's for, Sure.
Tommy i've been dealing with another ankle. Injury seems like
he aggravated that same ankle, issue which is frustrating because
he got off to a really good. Start he's a
really useful, player you, know multiple position, eligibility really good,
lineup was hitting for a surprising amount of, power and you,
know we can dabble some speed in there, Too so that's.

(35:18):
Unfortunate as of this recording On, thursday he is not
on the eye l and it's just a day to day.
Thing but we'll see how that. Goes Hunter green back
to the eel with a strained. GROIN i PROMISED i
would not take a victory lap On Hunter green getting,
hurt especially because the whole one you shouldn't do. That but,
TOO i also might worry the whole time was his

(35:40):
arm and, not but it's been lower body injuries he's dealing,
With so it's just kind of like fluke. Injuries WHEREAS
i was worried about him throwing one hundred three miles
an hour in the ninth, Inning maximyer to the eyele
with a hip injury to be determined if it's a
real hip injury or if it's just a why don't
you sit down for two weeks kid kind of a.
Thing BECAUSE i really Like Maxi, meyer but he has

(36:01):
really not looked good the last few starts and as
has gone this, year it really go insides with me
trading for. Him so apologies to all the Other Max
meyer managers out. THERE i had a lot to do
with him stinking BECAUSE i acquired. Him Brandon woodriff just
can't get out of this rehab. Assignment he was a

(36:22):
comebacker during as we. Have he's already stopped and started.
TWICE i haven't seen any updates about. It if he's.
OKAY i hopefully he, is but just had to mention
that because he's in he already might be in the
record books for the longest rehab assignment of all time
because he already like used the max amount of time
and then they shut him down and then they restarted,

(36:42):
it and NOW i don't. KNOW i Like Brandon woodrum
so hopefully hopefully he can come. Back his velocity was
way down in earlier rehab, Starts so brace yourself if
he does come. Back shane McClanahan Shanna mack hoping to
return In july Or. AUGUST i will not hold my

(37:04):
breath on that. Happening he very famously in our league
was injured during.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Our draft right after minute and a, half.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Right after Worm bottom at The Salary Cap auction. Draft
we just like went around the room watching the video
because it was an in person draft, too so we
all got to Experience worm's. Delight but who knows what's
going to happen. There it's a nerve. Thing he already
started throwing and had to kind of had to like
scale it back. Again So i'm stashing him in one,

(37:37):
league maybe two leagues WHERE i already had him before the,
injury BUT i don't have high hopes there with whatever's
going on. There and then a real. Bummer Pablo lopez
expected to miss eight to twelve. Weeks that one. Stings
any thoughts on any of those more than than WHAT
i re.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Shared, Yeah, Uh Pablo lopez was MY sp one or
two in telt worst and like when we were talking,
AFTERWARDS i was, like, YEAH i wasn't necessarily like thrilled about,
it but everybody was, Like, oh he's so, consistent he's
so like, healthy And i'm like, Right like that was
my Whole my rite up about him was just, like,

(38:18):
hey you don't know, much but you know, what you,
know you're going to get this many starts from, him
and and now you're absolutely. Not So i'm a little
bit up a river on in a bunch of different
leagues BECAUSE i have, him BUT i was already so
far up the river and tetwars it doesn't necessarily. MATTER
i also Have Brandon woodruff in our league if you're
interested in training for. Him but, YEAH i mean the

(38:40):
rest of it is like you said With. Maximier the
only thing that stood out there was, like is it
a hip injury or is it just a you have?
Fallen things have fallen apart for. You we're just gonna
give you a time.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
OUT i actually Had Brandon woodriffin in another week AND
i traded him For Exavier, edwards SO i flipped those
two for eachure while they were both. Hurt so it
was high ol FOR i On edwards's. Back wonder if
still not all? Right let's wrap things up with Home,
plate our final of our four, segments and of course
we have to mention this anytime it happens because of

(39:12):
the name of the. Show but someone Named Dustin harris
hit for the cycle yesterday In TRIPLE. A i will,
say as we talked a little bit before the, SHOW
i was watching the clips of. It the score was
eighteen to two when he hit the home run to
complete the, cycle and it was off a position, player
so it still. Counts it's still in the record. Books

(39:33):
no one can ever Tell Dustin harris that he didn't
hit for the cycle In TRIPLE, a but he did
hit the home round off of a position player who
threw a meatball at. Him in terms of fantasy, RELEVANCE
i don't know how much there. IS i will ADMIT
i did not know Who Dustin harris was before. This
it looks like he did get a cup of coffee

(39:54):
in the major leagues last year he played two games
with The, rangers and, interestingly In TRIPLE a last next
year bat at two seventy two with ten home runs
and thirty five stolen, Bases so it's got a little.
Juice and the year before that fourteen home runs forty
one stolen, Bases Dustin harris can move a little. Bit

(40:15):
but this year sixteen, games batting two hundred and that
home run for the cycle was his first of the.
Year but if someone hits for the, cycle we have
to mention. It AND i will say we kicked off
the season by talking About Carson kelly hitting for the.
Cycle And Carson kelly is having a heck of a
year right. Now So Dustin, harris maybe put him on
your scout. Team you see what. Happens and then the

(40:35):
last thing here is something you wanted to. Mention you
you added to. It so why don't you close us
out with this last?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
TOPIC i, MEAN i think that everyone needs to understand
the pet peeve that both you AND i have on
why they're constantly changing baseballs and they're messing with. It
and So, enoseris who you, know does just a ton
of work and some interesting, work just tweeted yesterday that
there's more drag on the ball this year than any

(41:02):
year in the stack cast, era and that's by MLB's own,
numbers and so there's just less distance on bad at. Balls, equally,
well hip balls are traveling less This march Through may
as in past, seasons and every comment on this suite
started off with can we look at just the balls
In Yankee stadium And Dodger? Stadium AND i think that

(41:25):
that's a fascinating. Question So i'm not a conspiracy, theorist
BUT i just get really annoyed that they continue to
mess with the baseball BECAUSE i feel like that should
be a pretty uniform, situation, like, right are we not
playing at the SAME.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Baa it drives me absolutely insane that we don't know
what the ball is going to be like every, year
this ball seems, fine you, KNOW i get. That it's
by the, way for the people who don't know if
stackcast era is back to twenty, sixteen so it's the
last ten years right. Now that's when stackcast started a
lot of this. Stuff and we've you, know we've seen twenty,

(41:59):
seventeen nineteen bouncy. Balls twenty twenty one was a bouncy
ball year two where the home runs just flying all
over the. PLACE i actually thought at the beginning of
this year there was some data that, indicated you, know
they might they might be super balls, again they might
be super. Bouncy and that coincided with the torpedo, bats
and that phenomenon In Yankee. Stadium as you, mentioned maybe

(42:21):
it was just A yankee. Stadium not going to be
a conspiracy, theorist but that wouldn't be the first time
they got caught using different balls In Yankee stadium by.
Accident but you, know When Aaron judge was chasing the,
record he just happened to get some super balls all the.
Time so not a conspiracy, theorist but you, know we'll.

(42:42):
See but, yeah it drives me bananas that the ball
is not the. SAME i hate the bounty balls BECAUSE
i just want like a regular baseball. GAMES i don't
need to watch fourteen to twelve games every. Day i'd
rather watch like five to three. Games and it most annoys.

(43:02):
Me AND i know this is like first world, problems
but like as an, analyst it's annoying to have to
think about this every. Year and even you, know we
talk about it on the show'd be, like, oh he
had a really good year in twenty twenty, One like oh,
right but like the tolp of The Super bowl. Year
so you kind of have to like have a caveat
for every year in the, past and LIKE i almost

(43:23):
need like a cheat sheet for like what kind of
ball which year, like, oh like he had a good,
year but LIKE i was a bad. Ball, okay but,
yeah we can close it out there before we rant.
Anymore so thanks everyone for tuning in For Kelly, KIRBY
i am like. Mayor this has been the cycle and
thank you for stopping. By thanks for listening to The

(43:43):
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