Brian Noe and George Wrighster Debate NBA Offseason and Definitions of Star Players

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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be So. NBA free agency began on a news dump Friday.
No idea why. I don't know why they would do that.
But most of the big names are staying put. Two
big names will be on the move Damian Lillard, James

(00:48):
Harden and uh that's where the plot thickens with those
two players in particular. How's your beginning to free agency there? George?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
You like?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
You like what the Lake show is done, like the
big names, But what do you think here?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I could not like what the Lakers have done anymore? Oh, Lord,
have mercy? You added good players. The only person that
you lost was.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Was did it shrewder? And you got Gabe Vincent back?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I mean you got Austin Reeves back at an unbelievably
cheap price. Apparently nobody knew how much he could actually make. Hey,
they had it wrong. They were approaching one hundred millions
and all of this, and yeah, this was I could
not believe that they were able to strike gold. And

(01:42):
I think that Rob Palinka that he did it again.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I hated it again. I I hate to even throw
this at you based on your your purple and gold
you know fandom over there, you know, but I threw
this out there. I'm curious if you believe this or not.
But I look at Austin Reeves and I ask myself
between Austin Reeves and Draymond Green, who stayed put because

(02:06):
Draymond was seeking a one hundred million dollar deal. He
got it, And like you just said, George, there were
reports out there that Austin Reeves might get over one
hundred million dollars, which was not true.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
He was, which which scared me because when because the
D'Angelo Russell signing happened first, and I was like DiAngelo
Russell at seventeen, Oh god, but we're not getting Austin
Reeves throwing in the trash, Like what the hell yeah.
And then out of nowhere here comes to Austin Reeves.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Day. I was say, oh, because they smart.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, and that was it.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
And they're still under the salary cap.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
South of sixty million for Austin Reeves. Not bad, not
bad at all, Sir Palinka. But I look at this
and I say, Okay, Austin Reeves on one hand, Draymond
Greened on the other. Draymond obviously has the more decorated resume.
But I'm asking who is going to be the more
valuable signing between those two. I think it's gonna be

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Austin Reeves because Draymond is declining. He's not declined to
the point that he's, you know, not valuable whatsoever he is.
But I look over the course of those entire contracts
over the next four years, when you're looking at Draymond
around what thirty three, Austin Reeves twenty five, Austin Reeves sending.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Draymond Draymond Green's at twenty four. No, he's not twenty
four years old, million dollars. No, he's thirty three years old.
Ah oh yeah, thirty three older guy. Austin Reeves twenty five.
You know, Austin Reeves on the uptick, Draymond Green on
the downslide?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Hold on, are you? Are you sure about that? Though?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Draymond Green averaged more points than this year than he
has since twenty what twenty seventeen for and he shot
a better three point percentage this year than he has
since twenty sixteen. His field goal percentage is the highest

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of his entire career, so is his effective field goal percentage.
His free throw percentage is good. I'm just saying, bro,
he's going here. The thing about three point shooting. That's
like soccer ratings. You know, they always do this trick
with soccer ratings. Where in this country?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Hey, the soccer ratings are up eighteen percent and it's like, well, great,
they were in the toilet last year. How much impressive
is that?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Really? That's Rayond three rebounds.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
His rebounds are where are the same that they've been
for four years. His assists were up, his his rebounding
was flat steals, flat blocks, and he's.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Committing less turnovers.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I don't know where the decline is because he's still
an excellent defender as well. So he looks like his
game is pretty flat to me. And when we saw
him in the playoffs. Who was the for for the Warriors.
Who was the most the best player on that team.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
In the playoffs? Yep, Steph Curry.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Okay, who was the second most consistent and best player
on that team in the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, I mean it was slim pickings there, No, it was.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
It was not slim with Draymond. Draymond played well pretty
much the entire playoffs. He was the he was the
guy that you could count on playing playing well.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, but how well like that?

Speaker 3 (05:40):
What do you mean he's well good defender, he was
so so and and he can against the Sacramento Kings.
He's defending the dude who just got two hundred and
seventeen million dollars and put and put him in a blender.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, that is true. Demonas Bonis did not have a
great series against the Warriors, and Draymond's a part of that.
There's no doubt Draymond's defense is better than Austin Reeves.
But after that soliloquy, I kind of like this because
I thought it was just purple and gold all day.
I was thinking you'd say, like Sasha Vuyach was a
better blow. I can't clarification But here's the thing. After

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all of that, I'm projecting over the next four years,
not next year, not one year, not here, not now,
Over the next four years, who do you think is
going to be more valuable between Austin Reeves and Draymond Green.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You're asking the wrong question, though, because.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm asking that question. Well, I like you can switch
it around, but I'm asking.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
You you question. Let me ask you. Let me explain
to you why it's a bad question, because.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
How is that a bad question?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Okay, let's hear it.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
The the reason why it's a bad question is is
when you look at the stats, right, whose stats are
going to be better Austin Austin Reeves I would bet
over the next four years. I would bet my next
check that over the next four years, provided he stays healthy,
that statistically he is sick not even just regular better,

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but significantly better than Draymond Green.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Okay, except for pride.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
He won't average as many assists, but rebounds will probably
be the same. Austin Reeves instead of being at eight
and a half points like Draymond, will probably be somewhere
close to twenty. Right, So, so statistics wise and at
Austin Reeves is going to be tremendously better.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
But when you look at what they mean to their team.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Value, I didn't ask you whose stats would be better.
I asked you I just would be more valuable.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
That's the reason why I said that the question was
a bad because it can get it can get confusing
to people when you're like, oh, who's more valuable and
then they get to pointing exactly to stats. When for
the Golden State Warriors, having Draymond Green protect step guard
so many different positions at times be a score his

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leadership that you can call the code red if they
need him to. His value to the Warriors is is
so freaking high that I don't think that Austin Reeves
at this point, with Anthony Davis and and Lebron James
being number one and number two most valuable people on

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that team, Draymond Green is probably number two most valuable
on the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
So I would go with Draymond Green.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, why was that so difficult to be more valuable
over the next and you had to bad mouth the question,
You had to slap the question around and then and
then you answered the question, who's going to be more
valuable when you did this, you turn when it came
to stats of what what the the hell was all
at about?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Hey, I just told you I needed to make sure
that we were on the same page.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Okay, all right, Well, yes, I'm going to go the
other way. I think that Draymond as he gets closer
and closer to thirty five, that benchmark, as he's approaching
forty throughout like the remainder of that contract. And let
make no mistake here, I don't want to make it
sound like I'm I don't know, just oblivious to what

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Draymond has done before and what he's meant to that franchise.
I am clearly in the know as far as that goes.
Where you're talking about a four time first team All
defensive guy, four time All Star, So yeah, we know
what he means defensively and playing small ball in the
death lineup. We know all of that stuff. It's just

(09:44):
projecting where this is going, not where it has been
and where it's going. His game does not translate to
old That's the thing with Draymond Green. He does the
dirty work. He plays defense, he rebounds, he's hard nosed.
When he starts to slow down and lose a step,
which everybody does. Then what then what's he going to be?

(10:06):
And so that's where I look at it. Plus thirty
five Draymond. No, I don't think that's going to be
more valuable than an Austin Reeves still in his twenties
four years out from now.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Well, well you're missing a boat on this one, sir.
It's okay. No, it's okay. We we all mess up
every now and no. Okay, I'm just and that, and
you know that. I do believe that Austin Reeves is
going to be tremendously valuable to the Lakers. Hints my
excitement about his resigning. He is going to be a

(10:38):
pivotal piece in a championship next season. He is going to,
like this.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
This piece in a championship next season. Did I hear
that correctly?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yes, he will be a pivotal piece to a championship
next season.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Okay, is he getting traded at the deadline?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, No for the boys in blue, no joke for
the because the boys in blue the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
No for the Purple and gold Man.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Okay, the Lake With this roster, I don't know how
you look at this team and look in the West
and think any team has a better shot of winning
than the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Really well wait, wait, so they pick up Gabe Vincent
and that swung everything to the Purple and Gold. Like,
what has happened exactly? Lebron's gonna be older?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
There's that, So it's not just what they're gaining, they're
also losing that. What big move have they made where
it's just like, oh, this swings everything in the favor
of the Purple and Gold.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Okay, so first thing is that in addition to getting better.
Oh and then they got a backup center, Jackson Hayes,
which they needed tremendously.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
They needed him and he's a good defender.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
They so they all they did is plug their holes
and they got guys who can They have a bunch
of guys who can score, taking a lot of pressure
off of Lebron. They re signed Hochimra. Okay, no, what
team is better positioned to win a championship than the Lakers?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Now?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
The team that just won one? They lost Bruce Brown? Okay,
how will they survive?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
What are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Bruce Brown literally won them a game and you cannot
he was there were games in the playoffs where they
were playing seven people seven people, one of them not
named Reggie Jackson, and then they re signed Reggie Reggie Jackson.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
So he's supposed to take Bruce Brown's role.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Bruce Brown is getting ready to go to the Pacers
and be a star, not a superstar, but a star.
He's not gonna be a star. Settled down on book it,
bro he will he will be. He will be twenty
two points a game this season.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Okay, all right, well, Bruce Brown, that's not a star.
By the way, that's a really good player. That's not
a star.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh so you don't consider Jimmy Jimmy Butler a star.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Well, Jimmy Butler brings way more.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
To the Oh okay, so what.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Bruce Brown scoring fifty six in a gentleman's suitep against
my box, putting his team on his back. What happened
to Jammy then?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
And that Jimmy Butler, it was all an right there, completelyude.
He played forty some odd minutes every single game with
without without a lip. He's don't give the man excuses.
He fell asleep. That's what Jimmy Butler does.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Bruce Brown, if you give him binoculars he couldn't see
Jimmy Butler's level. He's not even close to Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I didn't say he was Jimmy but Butler's level. But
you just poo poo twenty two points a game.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'm saying that's not a star. I didn't pot two.
That's good.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
So let's say it gets to like twenty four points
a game. See a star there? No? Oh, so you
don't like Jokic. Okay, so you don't like Yoki or
really or Jimmy. But I'm saying made a blanket statement
that that you can't be a star.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I didn't say superstar.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
That you can't be a star in this league at
twenty two to twenty four points a game. And I'm like,
that's literally Jimmy Butler and Jokic.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
That gets you to all star level. That doesn't mean
you're a star like Chris Middle. If you're an All Star.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
You already star in your league.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
No you're not, you're an all star.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh there's a.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Difference all star and star.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
No, no, no, there there are there are levels to this.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
There are superstars, which are which I consider in the
league like six to eight guys max, and then there
are stars. Your stars are guys who make All Star games.
Then after that you got good players, uh huh. And
obviously it depends on whether you are in the East
or the West, because Kyle Kyle Lowry has what like

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five All Star appearances, and if he were in the West,
he'd have zero. And you and you have Booker who's
never been voted into a game, so you know, whereas
if he were in the East, he would have he
would be a starter. He would have been a starter
in the play in the in the All Star Game
like five times already.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, so let's go down the list of stars here.
According to you, George Lowry markinen star.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Uh he he's an All Star.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
According to you, an all Star is a star.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
He was an All Star this year, so so uh
this is the year that he officially became a star.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yes, okay, so All Star, equal Star, Julius randall Star.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, he's still top it. He's he is an NBA star, dude.
He's the second best player in the best media market.
Well yeah, in New York City. He can't walk around
without everybody knowing who he is. And he's twenty twenty
four and ten not he's a star.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
He is a star.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
No, he is not. Did you see the star Julius
Randall in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Did you did you see the star? Uh?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Jimmy Jimmy Butler passed the past the first round in
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, dude, he fell asleep.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I saw him against the Knicks. He was good in
that series also, And you can't tell me he was
asleep at the wheel the whole time against the Celtics
either in the Eastern Conference Final. You are off to it.
Terry really starts so really today? Really, Okay, I have
confidence in you. You're gonna rally. You're a smart man,
and you're gonna rally stop this from the This is
a disappointing start, but we are going to turn it

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around here coming up around the corner. Hey, coming up next,
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we're gonna get to a couple of tweets here in
a second, George, where I don't know if this is
your burner account or not. But first we're gonna stay

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on track here with a couple of the big names
that are soon to be on the move most likely
and where would they end up. You got Damian Lillard,
who finally requested a trade out of Portland, and James
Harden who opted in but will be he's a sign
and trade candidate, so he's going elsewhere. I'll start with

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Dame because I think he's the bigger difference maker on
his next team with him saying yeah, I would like
to be moved, and specifically to the Miami Heat. Vincent
Goodwill of Yahoo Sports reported the only two teams on
Dame's wish list are the Heat and the Nets, and
they're gonna be other teams interested in his services. I'm

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actually happy for him, George, because he wants to compete
for a championship and the Blazers their roster is not
a title contender right now. They're just in two completely
different stages. Dame is in let's go for it mode
right now and the Blazers are like, we're just not
quite there right now. So I think when two different stages,

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it's best for both parties if Dame has moved and
that's going to be what they're going to try to
work out here.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
So there are two parts to this Dame story.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
The standoff between him and the franchise to see who
was gonna break up first, Yeah, what's funny because you're like, Odo, bro,
you know that you made He's made statements. I don't
want to play with a nineteen year old see what
moves they make.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
All this stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
But it's like, I'm not saying it's not unreasonable, because
it definitely is. But then in not requesting a trade,
they both didn't want to look bad and Dame finally
ended up having to do it, which and you know
part of the reason why he didn't want to do
it right.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, he said for numerous times that he wants to
remain with Portland, he wants to win a championship there,
he's loyal to the soil.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
So yeah, yeah, that the whole loyal to the soil thing.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
And most importantly how much he criticized guys like Paul
George for quote unquote ring chasing and all of this stuff. Bro,
I can't after he gets traded, I can't wait for
the Patrick. And I'm a deemed guy and I'm a
dame guy, but I'm also here for all the comedy,

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for all the comedy, and what Patrick and every other
and and Paul George and every other player that he
criticized about that, Yeah, what they are going to tweet
is going to be hilarious and it would be deserved.
And because if I'm be like, oh, oh so now

(20:20):
you get it?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Huh so now you finally get it now?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
All right, that's valid. That part of it is certainly true.
If you're saying, no, I'm not with that. I have
so many Damian Lillard soundbites it's ridiculous. I would play
you some audio if I could find it. They're about
nine hundred dame buits. Yeah, yes, goodness, but yeah, he
has said that numerous times before, and you're right, you're

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completely right about that. There will be some humorous tweets.
I'm there might be some right now, but certainly when
he lands somewhere else. Yeah, I think there'll be a
lot of players that have something to say about that.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yes, oh yeah, they are gonna absolutely have something to say.
And it's deservingly so. So I'm not mad, but it
is funny, though I am. I am all in on it.
I am here for all the jokes. That doesn't mean
I don't sort of support name and believe that he
was telling the truth. But I also knew and said

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that he was gonna grow tired of it because port
Portland has a problem.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well with that, that's the part of it. Well tell
us the problem though, real fast.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Is that Portland is one of these cities that has
to draft right great players.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's why they got to move Dame. You have to
move Dame to get a haul of draft picks.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, because because they have to draft great players and
then keep them there. Kind of like and and granted
I love the city of Portland, so this is not
any disparagement of the city, but it's kind of like
a franchise like the Pacers or the Sacramento Kings, where
you're like and it ain't exactly hot bed for free agents, right,

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But at the same time, if you can draft great players,
I mean my mind you Golden Golden State wouldn't exactly
a free agent even though it was in San Francisco.
People weren't jumping up and down to get to get
to Golden State. But it's one of those if you
build it, they will come. If you have two great

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players there and people are like, Ooh, I can win
a chip and be a major contributor and make money.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
All of this stuff. Sign me up.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Because players, as they get a little bit older, they
do want to win, and when you do win, you
get a chance to make more money. In the NBA specifically,
look at Bruce Brown. He was a contributor and people
saw potential because of because people in the front office

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of all other twenty nine teams got a chance to
see more of him, even though he was already going
to be a sought after free agent, but they got
a chance to see him. They got a chance to
see him in clutch moments, in big moments, the decision making,
the aggressiveness, and that makes people willing to take a
chance on you.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Well, the thing with Dame is that I don't have
any problem with him changing his tune. I think it's
the smartest thing for him to do is to move
on from the Blazers because he's in his prime still
and he's not going to be there for much longer.
He's what, right around thirty three years old, so it
makes sense to move on and go somewhere else where

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he's got a better chance to compete for a championship,
and it would be fine. I don't think anyone would
be looking at him sideways if he had just talked
about him the whole time. Right if he said, now,
I want to win a championship with Portland. If I
win it here, it'd be more meaningful than anywhere else.
I can live with it. If I don't. If it's
just him, him, him, that's fine. But if you make

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it beyond yourself and your com I'm in on this
guy going there, this guy ring chasing. Now, all of
a sudden, when you change your tune, those people are
gonna be looking at you sideways. That's where it changes
right there. If it was just him, that's one thing.
But it wasn't throughout the years.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
And players are always going to I mean, this is
not even players, this is just people in general. When
you when you throw stones, you better not live in
a glass house on the back.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
End, Yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
You better be flawless otherwise you're gonna have to take
the heat.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Now.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Do I believe that Dame can take the heat? Absolutely,
but you do have to sit there and own it
and listen to the noise though a little bit.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, and he will, he will. You know, Dame can
take it. But you're right, there's gonna be a couple
of interesting tweets being fired off in the not too
distant future. I just wonder where he ends up. Where
is Dame gonna end up? Because it if Miami has
a trade package that doesn't appease the Blazers, they have
no obligation to specifically trade him to Miami. You gotta

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trade him wherever you get the best haul. I know
you want to do right by Dame, but you gotta
look at out from one.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
First, what is Dame going to do?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Show up and not play for four years? Two hundred
and seventeen million dollars?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I would try to trade him to Miami, however, though,
I mean Miami at least has what I mean, if
we're if we're being honest, what does Miami have that
you want that you can actually get because.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
They might not be ecstatic about Tyler Hero.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
So what what I'm saying is that is that you
can't get Bam and you can't get what's his name? Oh,
and you can't get Jimmy Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
So like, I like, exactly going back to the first segment,
what you have to say about Jimmy b Okay, right, all.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Right, no, dude, dude, on my show this week, we
were we were talking about something and for some reason,
I was naming Cowboys players and I could not name
their quarterback in the nineties. I was like, yo, I
named every single player on the team, and I was like, bro, what.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Is the quarterback?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
If you had given me a million dollars to name it,
I would not have won a dollar.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You're talking akman or yes? Oh okay, well what happens
sometimes you have a brain freeze?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah I don't know what, yeah, exactly. So that was
a little Jimmy Butler quirk right there. There was no disparagement.
There was that was no shade at all.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Okay, why hear you? It's like Okay, So if Jimmy
B's untouchable and BAM's untouchable, and we get what Tyler
Hero and some draft.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Caleb Martin and some draft picks, their best bet may
be a three team trade.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
And that's rebaly what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, the way, then they can get another player involved
in it to like entice Portland a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think there's a better train. But it's probably going
to be a three or even a four team trade
more so than a like a standard two teamer. I
think that's most likely what's.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Going But look at the but look at the Brooklyn
Nets trade. What do to Brooklyn? Dude, they're not going
to give up Michale Bridges first and foremost.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Because and if you're dame.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
You if yeah right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Because if they give up Michale Bridges and Cam Johnson.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh man, he's in the same position that he wass Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, Alli is just is just is just swapping weather. Yeah,
you're right, yea family that's he's further away from his
his you know, extended family, which a lot of them
have moved up to Portland, like Portland is their home base.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Now, well, you and I George, we're moving closer to
something right now, we're moving closer to Monzylos with the
latest Monzi. What's going on?

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Hi, guys, Happy Sunday.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Happy Sunday, You too, Georgie, you're back, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Do you miss us? Don't? I?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Only only you mons?

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Okay? Perfect?

Speaker 6 (28:10):
Well?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Well actually actually in bo Benson too.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
You don't miss me? You miss everybody? Do you miss? Uh?
The lints on the floor before Amon? Is that what's
going on here?

Speaker 7 (28:21):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I'm just giving you a hard heart.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Okay, all right, dude, how long have we now if
you count miss time?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Right, we've been working together? What years? Now?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Years?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
And I'm and and sometimes my wife will say, yo,
do you still up?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
When when she's on my nerves, she'll be like.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yo, do you still love love me? Like I'm still
I'm still here, aren't I.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
That's the worst. That's the worst.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
No. I mean but but but she knows me. I
don't be anywhere. I don't want to be right.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
No, I get that. I get that too.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
But I do have to say something you, Brian, about
what you just said about Damian Lillard and the Blazers.
What if they changed their tune on him, and so.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
He had to change his tune.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
I just I don't like that the Blazers made him
be the one that requested the trade. I feel like
the Blazers should have done it. He's been there, he's
been you know, honorable with them and like loyal and
all that, and.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
I just don't like that he had to request the trade.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
And so it's like, what if the conversations just changed
behind closed doors?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
How could it?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Though?

Speaker 4 (29:29):
From the what if this.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Entire time they're like, hey, Dane, we're gonna do something.
We're gonna get you, We're gonna do whatever we can
to build a team around you. And even maybe after
getting scooed Henderson, they were like, no, no, no, we still
want to do this.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
And then maybe they were like, you know what, actually,
we don't want to do this with you anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well, they would say they said it publicly that they're
committed to building around Dane, right, but publicly they know
it's not good enough, like three years from now, it's
go time now.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Right, So it was kind of stupid to say that.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, they just don't have the firepower to reasonably compete
for a championship right now. So it's just lip service.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Yeah, And I guess that's what I'm saying, that it's
lip service, maybe even on both ends. But you know,
I just to me, I'm like, Blazers, you should have
you should have asked for the divorce, not him. You
should have done it, not made him do it. That's
all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I hear you.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
You know what you that's yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
But let's talk about the NBA and the moves that
are happening today. Lonnie Walker has agreed to a one
year deal with the Brooklyn Nets. While Eric Gordon, former
Clipper and then came back to be a Clipper, He's
had it to be with the Suns. Apparently there were
other lucrative offers from the Warriors and the Bucks, and
even a reunion with the Rockets was on the table,
but he chose Phoenix to be able to play with Katie,

(30:35):
Devin Booker and Bradley Beal. Apparently, there's still no details
that I can find on the terms of the deal.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yet for Eric Gordon and the Suns.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
The Bulls have applied to the NBA for a disabled
player exception worth ten point two million because of Lonzo
Ball's injury. He is expected to miss the entire upcoming
season in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Your Cardinals one.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, oh that's good, but.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
You would be you didn't bet on them.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
There's a story behind that.

Speaker 6 (31:02):
Oh I okay, right, well, your Cardinals did beat the
Yankees at home. Five to one was the final score,
and the Astros were down, but they ended up coming
back and beating the Rangers five to three. Currently going on,
it's the Tigers all over the Rockies. It all started
with a grand slam by jier Baiaz, his eighth career
grand slam, and the Tigers have not looked back.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
They're beating the Rockies fourteen to six.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
They're about to start the bottom of the eighth inning
in Colorado. Angels up on the Diamondbacks four to two.
Bottom of the six in La White Sox beating the
A's five to two. They're about to start the fifth
inning in Oakland and the Rays. They're beating the Mariners
six to five, bottom of the fifth inning. And it
was mister Ricky Fowler who won the Rocket Mortgage Classic.
It was a three way tie. Originally it went to playoff.

(31:43):
Rickey Fowler officially won.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Back to you guys, thank you Moonzi, Brian Though and
George Reister with you here on Fox Sports Radio. George,
So get this the story behind the Cardinals here. Yeah,
oh my gosh. So we got tickets to go to
the game on Friday night, Yankees in town. They begin
a three game set, and so I get tickets. I

(32:06):
get four tickets. It's me, my girlfriend, my dad and
his wife drove down. Four of us are gonna go
to the game. We drive all the way there, it's
about two and a half hours each way, and it
gets rained out. It gets rained out, and so I'm like, okay, cool,
So what happens do I just get my money back
from the tickets? And the place stub Hub was like, no,

(32:29):
you gotta like sell your tickets because they're good for
the next night. And I'm like, well, my dad and
his wife can't make it, and they're like, we don't
know what to tell you. So I put all the
tickets online to resell them. But it's a split double header, right,
they played two games last night. Our tickets would have
been good for the evening game and they didn't sell.

(32:52):
So I bought tickets to a game that we didn't see.
We went to the game on Friday stood where our
seats were they ever started and that was that. So
that was that was a disaster.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, see that sucks, dude, But at least you did
have a chance to get to get rid.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Of them though. But it is.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
But it does suck that you don't that thing when
when your sports plans get thrown off.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, and look, man, it was a split doubleheader. There
are a lot of the attendance was not good at
all for the evening game last night, and the other
part the weather was supposed to be terrible. Like my
girl and I would think it, do we drive down
there again and then get rained out again? And we're like, eh,
we'll put the tickets online. It looks like it's gonna rain.
I don't even know if they're gonna get the game in.

(33:44):
And they got the game in fine in the evening.
I don't think they had any delays. It's crazy, but yeah,
it did not work out. Did not work out well
at all. So hey man, that's sometimes the way it goes.
But we're gonna rally over here. I know just the
thing that will cheer me up and everybody else. According
to Monsei, that's coming your way right around the corner.

(34:05):
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Speaker 2 (34:49):
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studios and we are gonna right on end said this, let's.

Speaker 9 (35:02):
Do it, Corrine, and now it's time.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
For Absolutely it's not gonna be pretty.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
According to Monsey, I love it all right.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
According to Moncey, she doesn't know which contract is worse,
Dylan Brooks or Russell Westbrooks.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Oh my goodness, I can't and I can't. Dylan Brooks
is literally laughing at the Grizzlies as he heads to
the bank, and I'm laughing at the Houston Rockets.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
For the record, I don't like Brooks. I think everyone
knows that I don't like him.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
He's all talk, no action, especially when it came to
that playoff series against the Lakers. Couldn't have poked the
worst you know player, not worst player as in Lebron
James sucks, as in just the worst player to poke,
the worst franchise to poke.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
And then he doesn't even speak to.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
The media after, like, come on, my dude, if you
aren't gonna dish it, you gotta.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Be able to take it. And that's when it comes
to everything.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
But instead it looks like, really, the joke is on
Memphis in a sense, but the joke is on Houston
for me.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
He's about to make twenty million a year for four years?
Is that? Am I crazy to think that that's crazy?
Who would give him that much money?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Never?

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Never would I have thought that somebody would give this
man that much money.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
The same man who hit Lebron James and Donovan.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Mitchell in the groin and doesn't know how to own
his ish is getting eighty million dollars over four years.
Absolutely ridiculous. And then Russell Westbrook making eight million over
two years, not even eight million, I guess some one
point nine with the Clippers, and the only people I
can blame for this the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Are you kidding me? Lakers? You and Lebron James and
all of your.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
People talking about Westbrook when he was on a team
that did.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Not fit for him.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
You guys try to force him to the bench, called
them a vampire. It was this whole thing, and then
because of that, his worth significantly dropped. There is no way,
no way, in any world, no that Dylan Brooks is
making twenty million a year and Westbrook is gonna make
about four million a year. Absolutely not. Everybody's aws their mind.

Speaker 9 (37:05):
According to Monsi, what is the.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
That Joey Chestnut?

Speaker 3 (37:11):
According to Mansi, Joey Chestnut is one in that one
hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Today with somebody said he was and I was like,
absolutely not. Are you guys insane?

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Can you eat one hundred and eighty two chicken wings
in thirty minutes.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Can you eat seventy six hot dogs and buns in
ten minutes? No, No, you cannot. This is a skill.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
This is something that he actually has to train and
practice for.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
And the fact that he is so thin for.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
How much he can eat, it only goes to show
that he puts in the work.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
He has a skill that none of us can do.
I don't think any of us together.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Even if we put all five of us together, I
don't know if we could eat one hundred and eighty
two chicken wings and thirty minutes. So no, Joey Chestnut
one hundred percent an athlete, according to Mansi.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
According to Manci, online ticket sales are the worst.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
I'm gonna shoot someone if I have to buy another
ticket online because it is ridiculous. You're on it for
seven hours, and then you might not even get the ticket,
and then you have to buy it off of a
third party who's selling it for five times the original price.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
What happened to if you wanted them? If you wanted
a pair of Jordan's, what did you have to do?
You went early and you got in line.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Go back to that, I get in line like remember.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
When you used to want Jordan's back in the day.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
If you want, no, I didn't get in line. I
didn't have money. I did not have Jordan money. I
didn't get my first pair of Jordan until I was
a grown up.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Well, no, me too, But I still had to wait
in line.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
I had to you. I don't. I don't wait in line.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Okay, well listen now you're flexing, but no.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Personal joint. No, I don't really wait in line.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Okay, that's what a nice little life you have. But
my point is online.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
If you try to buy tickets right now for like
a concert, If you try to buy tickets for an
event and it's a big event, that virtual que is
driving me nuts, especially because I will wait seven hours
and then you tell me you're out of tickets.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
So then what am I? What am I? What am
I doing? What are we doing?

Speaker 10 (39:08):
It?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
He'll be out.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
My mansi is you need to make sure that you
get make sure that you find out which credit cards
are best.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Even with that.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Even with the American Express pre sale, it's either it
sells out too fast or like you're still waiting and
then like.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
You don't get the options that you want. It's just
a mess, and.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
I rather get up at five am and go wait
in line and get what I'm mesh.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Well, Jos, worse than that, Manzi, if we're being honest,
is the ticket fee?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
That's where I thought you were going with this at first,
that that should be a crime.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
If I didn't have to wait seven hours, I wouldn't
be so mad about the fees.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
But you're right about those fees though. It's more worth
more than the ticket, and that's how they tell you.
They're like, oh, the ticket's only.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
Sixty nine dollars, but the fees are two thousand.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Are you in it? Are you in it to win it?
I hate it? I hate it.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
I try to rese sell tickets after the Cardinals game
got rained out on Friday, and it's like, I'm not
gonna make my money back, all the money I spent
in Texas. I know I'm still looking at a loss
no matter how it comes out. That's brutal, okay I
Coming up next, we get to potentially George's burner account

(40:19):
and Purple and Gold Love. Here.

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Speaker 2 (40:33):
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live from the tirec dot com studio.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I do not tweet about my normal things on my burner.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
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dot com. The way tire buying should be. I swear, George.
We're like brothers over here. You know, we will agree
from time to time, but we move on from the
agreements real fast, and then we just stick on something

(41:11):
we disagree about, you know, and then we just keep going, go,
go go. That's how we get down, you know. But
we were talking about isn't all star a star? Because
what kind of.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Nonsense is the is a is a is a not?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Is an all star superstar?

Speaker 6 (41:32):
No?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Not necessarily, but is an all stars star? Absolutely? That's
where you get star star level.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Now this was based on you. So let's let's let's
rewind for a second, you were trumpeting the Purple and Gold,
and we will get to that because they have had
a really good off season. And you talked about the
Lakers offseason being so strong you have them as the
favorites to win the championship, and I said, whoa, whoa, whoa,

(41:59):
what about Denver? They lost Bruce Brown, granted, And then
you were waxing poetic about Bruce Brown, who's now with
the Indiana Basers, and you said he's going to be
a star, and I pushed back, and that's how we
got onto this whole discussion. Is a star uh play?
Is an All Star? A star player? And so our guy,

(42:19):
the missing link on Twitter, he agrees with you. He
says a player that makes the All Star team is
considered a star. George Reister is correct. Now, there was
not you know, like the crying laughing emoji at the
end to let me know that he's kidding around.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
No, he's not kidding around, bro.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
He's being serious, which is crazy. Okay, So I'll throw
a couple of names at you.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
We should tweet out a poll about that one, because
it's it's common sense. No, no, if you make it
an All Star game, you are a star.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
No you're not. No, you're not. I'll throw out a
few names at you. Okay, Okay, you tell me if
this is a star or not.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Jared Allen, clearly he was a star for making an
All Star game. He's not a star.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
He made the All Star team two seasons ago, not
this past season, but before that, twenty twenty one, twenty two.
He's an All Star that is not a star player.
Even better, the season prior, Nikola Vusovich star he just
re upped with the Bulls star. Okay, that's a signing

(43:28):
of a star right there. No, it's not that same season,
Ben Simmons made the All Star team.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Wait, hold on, hold on, Ben Simmons also made All NBA,
So so you cannot there's nothing that you can say
about a dude who made All NBA so for aside
from I don't like him and i'm and I've never
and I was never on the Ben Simmons train, but
you cannot say the dude was not a star in
the league. When you make an All NBA team that

(43:57):
that you have, you have lost. You will lose all
credibility and people will be like, no, no, has just
it has just let his feelings get in the way
of common sense.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Okay, so we should refer to Ben Simmons because we're
two seasons removed here, we referred to him, no, former
star Ben Simmons.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
You you have to remember, is that the great text
winner said the inventor of the triangle offense.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
That you are only great in the moment that you
do something great. That you have to continue doing great
things so to to be great. Ben Simmons is no
longer a star.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
He was a star. He had like fifteen minutes of
star fan.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Okay, so Jared away, we refer to him going forwards,
former star Ben Simmons, just so we're all on the
same page, right, That's how I.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Don't don't I don't think that's the I mean, I
get once he's once, once he's retired, you would say
former NBA star Ben Simmons.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yes, okay, that would be the fitting way to refer
to Ben.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
You wouldn't just say, like, oh six, your NBA veteran
Ben Simmons, or or or you would call him former
all NBA center, Bubb's point guard, center person.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Of Ben Ben Simmons.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
I mean, you do have to acknowledge his accolades regardless
of whether.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
You like him or not.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
I mean, I've never thought that Kyl Lawry is is
that type of guy compared to some of the people
in the West who didn't make All Star games.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
That's the whole point though.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
However, however, you cannot discount the man's credentials.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
He's a what five time All Star?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Ben's which can't take Lowry? Yes, you're on Lowry now, Well,
that's the thing is, look Ben Simmons the way, if
you want to be technical, you could say former All Star.
That is technically true. If you say former star, you
are going to get laughed at because that's not him.

(46:05):
That's not what he's known as. He If I came
on the airwaves and just say former star Ben Simmons,
I get way more pushback of like, what are you
talking about right now? The guy that was afraid to
dunk it against the the Hawks and he passed. He
passed up a dunk. That's what he's known for. He's
his teammate Joe l Embiid after that game crushing him,

(46:26):
his head coach Doc Rivers after that game crushing it.
He's more known for disappointment than being known as a star.
That's the whole point. Just because you're an All Star
doesn't mean that you've reached this rarefied air of star status.
Lowry Markinen was an All Star this past season. He's
not known as a star. He's a really good player.

(46:47):
So no, all star does not equal branded star. Sorry,
that is not the way it works.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Listen, listen. No you can argue what you pastor about
the one you are one wrong. I am, I the
the the Internet's telling you. I'm telling you. It is
clear as day. You can and and I've had to
learn this about things.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Is that.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Is that just just because I don't necessarily, you know,
subscribe to the star value of a of a of
a player, that doesn't mean that they are not a star. However,
I do get to determine the difference between a star
and a superstar because superstar gets thrown around and when

(47:39):
people may be like, oh Kyle, Kyle Lowry, or or
they will say, you know, Bam out of Bayo superstar.
There's nothing superstar about Bam out of Bayo. Is he
a really good player? Absolutely? See an All NBA player.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
On defense too, there's a difference between superstars and stars.
Jimmy Jimmy Butler not a superstar. Fantastic player, not a superstar.
The the list of NBA superstars is short. It is
a shake shake Gilders Alexander not a superstar yet he's

(48:16):
stepping into superstar tim He's got a legitimate chance.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
But we're but we're talking.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
About Steph, Kevin Durant, Lebron, Joel Embiid now that he's
an m v P. Jokic, clearly superstar. Luka don chicks.
Kyrie Irving, whoa whoa K? Kyrie Irvings one of seventy
five great best basketball players.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Of all time?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Superstar right now?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yes, no, what are you talking about? Did you watch
him play in Dallas, Jah? Did?

Speaker 3 (48:49):
He's one of the five best, one of the three
best point guards in the league right now.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Look, I'm just saying, I'm not gonna doubt it, Kyrie Irving.
Kyrie Irving is a magnificent player.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Say you cannot like him all you want to, but
you put him.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
On that court.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Fin now, you are going to be hard pressed to
find anybody calder not named step curR.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
But that's the thing is, if you're looking at true superstars,
they elevate and that's not what Kyrie Irving does. Kyrie
Irving is one of the best dribblers, maybe the best
dribbler in the history of the NBA. He's an outstanding finisher.
That guy's game is beautiful. Please don't get that twisted.

(49:34):
But a superstar when it's about him, it's Kaimie. It's
Kyrie Irving. First team. Second, he's not a defensive guy whatsoever. No,
if you have like some people have Dame as not
a superstar like that, I don't get that. What is

(49:55):
the main difference between Yeah, what is the main difference
between Dame and Kyrie Irving? Because Dame wasn't on.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Your high Kyrie's done it in the finals and has
a championship.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
He did He is that big shot in Game seven
when Lebron.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Was his cobe, not just a big shot, but the
game prior to that, he put up forty one They
bank it.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, so right, But who is who's the Lebron for Dame?
Exactly in his career he hasn't had one anyone close.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
But to that, Kyrie has put up the same level
of u of tough to guard, impossible to stop again
in Boston.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
He did it in and he wrecked that that franchise, Like,
oh solo, look at them, look at what they did
once he left.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
He did it.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
And I'm not saying that Kyrie Irving does not have
any blame in these situations, because he absolutely does.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
What happened to Boston, what happened with the nets. Come on, man,
it's not just people.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Talking about too like trying to diminish his greatness with
or not put them into Hall of Fame first ballot.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
They're like, oh t o team obliterator.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Man, this dude is one of the best dudes to
ever best wide receivers to tie up shoes, one of
the five best wide receivers that ever tie up shoes,
and we're debating about putting them into Hall of Fame
in the.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
First first ballot.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Dude, the like the greatness is not defined by how
likable that you are, by how I mean other otherwise,
the Walter Payton manner of the year should be, you know,
considered great every year.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Well, look, I never had too on what you're talking about,
and I understand the comparison there, But as far as
Kyrie goes, there are a lot of people that just
look at it from the I don't know, like the
point of view of stats. It's not just about that,
it's what else do you bring to the tape? Do
you help the team or are you a hurdle that

(52:04):
they have to jump over? And Kyrie more times than
not in his career, he has been a hurdle. He
has been a roadblock in terms of does he help the
team or get in the way. He got in the
way in Boston, he got in the way in Brooklyn.
I mean, he put up numbers in Dallas and they
sunk like a rock because he doesn't play defense right Like, No,
I don't have him at superstar status. He is a brilliant,

(52:27):
beautiful basketball player, but I do not have him at
superstar status. Sorry, you're the one who has this short
list of what you do think is a superstar and
what you don't. I'm surprised you had that on the list.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Hey man, just listen. My list is consistent. It doesn't change.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
We are home.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
It's one of those it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
It is.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
It is you have an expansive superstar list, and you
have way too expansive of a star list. If you've
got any all star deemed a star player. Like, there's
a difference between really really good and star.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
Like.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
I'm sorry, Laurie Markinen, he falls into really really good category.
He is not a star, not yet, Tyrese Haliburton with
the Pacers, he just re upped huge extension. George, would
you consider him a star? He's an all star, He's
a star. He's a star player.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yes, he's absolutely a star player. I just he is
not a He is not a superstar. He is absolutely
a star, a star player.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
By the way, we can agree this.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
There's a there's a reason why he's a max guy.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
We can agree on one superstar show. Hey, o Tani,
different sport, but he just hit a solo home run
four hundred and fifty four feet. That dude is from
another planet. What he's doing, My goodness, higher than I
would say like Nicola Vucevich or Ben Simmons. You know,
it's a star and another level.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
No, he's a super sh I know, I know, global superstar,
which is even higher than a superstar.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
He's crazy. He's the superstar in baseball right now. All right,
we got a lot to get to coming up next. Goodness, George,
you might not yell at me more for another sports
opinion that I have, but we'll try it on for size.
Right around the corner. I'm Brian No. He's George Reister.

(54:28):
Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm
Brian No. He's George Reister. Here on Fox Sports Radio.
We're coming to you live from the tire Rack dot
Com studios and want to welcome in FSR NFL insider
Adam Kaplan. And it's gosh, it's turned into a tradition
here cap before we get to all the NFL stuff.

(54:48):
What non NFL sports content are you consuming today?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Oh, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
NBA free agency.

Speaker 7 (54:54):
It's I'm an NBA guy anyway, so I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
It's completely different from the NFL.

Speaker 7 (54:59):
It's the contracts are much bigger because you have fewer
players that you're dealing with and fewer players on the roster,
so teams obviously pay two or three stars a good
amount of money. And the contracts trucker is completely different,
where most NBA veterans get fully guaranteed contracts and as
you know, the NFL it's we don't have that. So
there's a major difference. But I'm fascinated about the money.

(55:21):
And also this is a real good cross over here.
How much leverage NBA players a versus the NFL players
who don't have a lot.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Are you hoping for Damian Lillard in Philly over there?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Adam?

Speaker 7 (55:33):
You know, I you know what, I've always been a
fan of his. I don't blame him for not winning
a lot there. They just never really supported him or
surround him with enough talent. I just want I want
hard to be moved. This is a guy that there's
a reason why I keeps bouncing around. Guy looking at
a great season, no doubt about it. You have to

(55:53):
be careful in professional sports. There's a shelflet for players
thirty three years old. When you start bringing in or
paying older players a lot of money, you worry about
these things. And the Sixers got away with it. If
you saw the Celtics series, he had two unbelievable games
and two embarrassing games. And you have to ask yourself,
which James Harden is out there? But to me, I'd

(56:16):
move on. And obviously they're trying to do this, but
they're not going to give him away. But right now
they don't have that suitor.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Well, yeah, and Adam, this is a perpetual thing in
the games that matter the most in the playoffs. But
I wanted to go over to the NFL because we
have four more players suspended for gambling violations. How much

(56:43):
further is this going to extend prior to the season starting,
because like Jamis and Williamson, I mean, because he was
a high draft pick, is probably the most notable player
that's been suspended. How long before we have a big
name player suspended because of not because he was gambling
on the NFL, but because he was he made a

(57:04):
bet on a team bus or a team plane or
the hotel when you're in the bed at night.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
Well, depends, first of all, it depends on a and
you kind of touch on and passing. Where did the
player do it? Now if it's on a non NFL game,
that they can do it as long as it's not
in the complex. But and it's funny because someone the
league source sent me the the revised policy for players
and clubs. It doesn't talk about like, Okay, let's say

(57:33):
you're on a team plane and you're not you're not
betting on an NFL game. From what I could understand,
that's okay, But you cannot bet on anything inside a
team's facility, on the grounds, in the parking lot. Now
I joke on the TV segment this week, Well, yeah,
but if you cross the streets, you can.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Think about it.

Speaker 7 (57:52):
You could cross the sidewalk. As long as you're not
on the team premises, you can bet on the non
NFL game with no question if you're a player, But
if you work for a club you can't do it
with then there's certain restrictions on fantasy football. By the way,
there's certain restrictions for that. It's this is why I
think players and agents I spoke with in particular, really

(58:12):
criticized the NFL for not making clear what they kind
of cannot do.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
How about this too, Adam, where you think, if you
do the comparison game, you look at Isaiah Rodgers' former
Colts cornerback. He gets submitted front. Yeah, for seventeen games
he was projected to be a starter. He did have
an NFL related bet. But some of the other guys
Jamison Williams six game suspension with the Lions where he's
betting on college games, but at the facility, you compare

(58:38):
that to a guy.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Like I have to go. I have an issue. I
have to go.

Speaker 7 (58:42):
I'm sorry, I have a family emergency.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Okay, Yeah, there he is, Adam Kaplan. I hope everything's okay. Well,
I'll just throw it to you, George. Think about this man.
I hope everything's all right with cap man. I hope
everything's good. But think of Jamison Williams, the Lions wide receiver.
He's betting on college games at the team facility and

(59:05):
the NBA, well in the NBA, but non NFL. Right,
he gets a six game suspension. Meanwhile Cam Robinson of
the Jags, he gets a four game suspension. He violated
the ped policy. So think about that. Does that not
seem out of whack to you? Where I understand you
got to make sure the integrity of the game. Everything's
on the up and up. But which gets to the

(59:28):
heart of the integrity of the game. More, is it
betting a college football game at the team facility you
get six games? Or is it using peds? It's the
latter and you got four games for that. That seems
completely out of whack to me.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Now you are right where it feels out of whack. See,
the first mistake that the NFL made was is is that.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
When they decided.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
To investigate players for these gambling things. They decided, oh,
we have to have a zero tolerance policy and all that,
there should be a zero tolerance policy in gambling on
the NFL. But where they messed up is I talked
to multiple NFL players who had no idea about the policy,

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no idea about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
That if you were at the team hotel.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
That you couldn't place a bet, And you're like, wait,
so it almost feels like you are convicting people when
there was no clear explanation of the rules none, And
it's not right. But I do think that you run

(01:00:48):
a slippery slope. I think the NFL either needs to
do one or two things, say players you cannot bet period.
Either that or you say you can place bets wherever,
whenever you are, just as long as it is not
on NFL games. But the problem is this is that

(01:01:10):
is that this is a gambling problem in general, because
gambling is addictive. If gambling was not addictive, you would
not have one eight hundred numbers, you would not have
treatment facilities for all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Of these things. So the issue with players gambling in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
General is regardless of whether it's on the NFL or
anything else, is that gambling, you can get down big.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
And if you get down.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Big, now you're trying to figure out a way to
get out, and ways to get out include things that
you can that you actually have control over, and then
that's where stuff gets tricky. It's not just betting on
NFL games. It's that if you find yourself in a jam,
you gotta find the human nature is I gotta find

(01:01:58):
my way out of a jam. And if there is
something in your life that you can control to help
get yourself out of a gym, what's gonna end up happening?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Well, yeah, I mean I get that, but I mean,
as far.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
As we've seen it, we saw it at Arizona State years
and years ago. We saw it with Tim Donneghe in
the in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
But that's really not the NFL's problem. The NFL, to me,
what they should do. They're making things far more difficult
on themselves. They should realistically have two rules. They should
no betting on NFL games. That's an obvious one. No
insider information. If you're found out to do either, you're
gonna be in trouble. You can't bet on the NFL,

(01:02:38):
that's self explanatory. We would seriously have questions of are
you altering the outcome of games here in any way,
shape or form the insider information if you you know,
you start giving information and it's used for gambling purposes.
If the game plan calls for you're gonna run the
ball like crazy, well that's valuable information. If the starting

(01:03:00):
left tackle has a gimpy ankle that he hurt midweek
and no one really knows about it, well that's huge information.
If you're found out to give that up, you could
get in trouble for that. But in terms of like
betting from the facility and entering a sports book and
all of that stuff, it's just it's silly. I don't

(01:03:21):
know why you would pop players for As Adam said,
you can literally cross the street as long as you're
not in the like the stadium parking lot, which is
a violation, you can cross the street and do it.
That's just weird to me. They're over complicating it. Well,
you just don't bet on the NFL. No insider information.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Yeah, but the I mean, but aren't we used to
that with with with betting anyway, is that if you
are standing in California and then you cross the street
and you're in Nevada. Now all of a sudden your
apps work and allow you to make bets.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
But that's state by state, I know, but it's here.
It is. But as far as the NFL, it's their
policy for every team, Like it's not like you step
foot out of the Giants facility and go to the
Bills facility and now you can you know what I mean? Like,
it's the same thing for everyone. I just don't understand

(01:04:18):
what's good for the NFL. What positive press is there
for Jamison Williams and others who weren't betting on the
NFL and they were just betting at the facility, Like
for them to get suspended for six games and all
the negative press that it brings the NFL. I just
don't think the NFL is doing right by itself or

(01:04:38):
the players with the policy like that. I would let
them have at it, Like what's the fear? This is
just a oh my gosh, what could happen next type
rule to not allow gambling from the facility or at
the team hotel. Like what are you worried about if
you allow them to bet on the NBA or college

(01:04:58):
football or anything that's not NFL? What difference does it
make if it's at the facility or not.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Now, now that part I do agree with. You're like,
where does it matter?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Like, if they're not betting on the NFL, how does
that matter the location of the bet right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, that's silly to me. I don't see how that
benefits the NFL. It certainly doesn't benefit the players. But
how does the NFL benefit from that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Me?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
They are they hoping the takeaways like, Oh, the NFL
has taken this very seriously. I think more people look
at the NFL and say, what does it matter if
you enter in your two leg parlay for the NBA
from the weight room? Like, who cares if you're allowed
to bet on the NBA? What does it matter if
it's at the team facility or not?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Yeah? Very true, Yeah, very.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Crazy to me. We got Manzi Bolanos with us. She's
got the latest, and I have a compliment to pass
along her way. Oh at the tail end of this, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Well, thank you. I I really agree with you guys
on this conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
It's just so unnecessarily complicated, the whole gambling thing in
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
I didn't know that you could.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
Cross the street and technically place a bet outside of
the facility.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
I didn't know. Is that that easy? In a way,
it's either you can gamble or you can't. I think
that's the easiest way to put it, because it's too gray.
It's too gray, it's too complicated. So I'm with you
guys on how it's a slippery slope. Also, but let's
talk about Major League Baseball. We got a couple of
games going on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
One has yet to start because of a rain delay
Guardians and Cubs in Chicago has not started yet.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
The Rays of the Mariners were tied, not anymore. Seattle
has taken the lead.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
They're up seven to six top of the eighth inning,
and the White Sox are all over the a's ace.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
They have been the whole game. It's eight to three,
top of the eighth inning.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
Earlier today, the Reds beat the Padres four to three,
and then the Birds beat the Pirates six to three.
So Milwaukee and Cincinnati are still tied for the top
spot in the NL Central. The Braves have won eight
in a row. They beat the Marlins to three. Ronald
Acuna Junior stole two bases in this game. He's up
to thirty nine for the year and Miami's Luis Aras
He went two for four in the game, so he's

(01:07:09):
batting three eighty eight After today, the oriol snapped a
four game losing streak and they beat the Twins two
to one. In NBA news, this was earlier today that
mister Jordan Clarkson is finalizing a three year deal worth
fifty five million to stay with the Utah Jazz, and
I mentioned Eric Gordon with the Suns it's a two
year deal worth six million, and Miles Bridges is signing

(01:07:31):
a one year, seven seven point nine million dollar qualifying
offer to stay with the Hornets. Both sides are far
apart on an extension, so he will be an unrestricted
free agent next summer. And tomorrow Wimbledon begins, or in
a few hours if you're on the East Coast, but
Wimbledon begins. An Australian tennis player, Nick Kirios has withdrawn
citing a wrist injury. He lost last year in the

(01:07:54):
men's final to Novak Djokovic. He's been sidelined most of
twenty twenty three with the knee injury, but apparently he
has a wrist injury and has withdrawn from Wimbledon back
to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Well, thank you, MONSI. So the compliment I passed along
is from my dad.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Oh okay, what does dad say?

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Uh, Dad was over here and we were going to
the Cardinals game on Friday that got rained out and
I lost all my money, but it was great to
see him, and he did he passed this along. He goes,
is that girl that's on with you on Sunday night?
I really like her?

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Oh that's sweet, is what he had got to Monty.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Oh, but you just didn't want to tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
No, man, listen, your your name is buzzing out here
in these streets.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Masih is buzzy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Well, at least you know, listen, Team No Sleep. At
least it's putting.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
At least it's it's it's being worth it is what
you're telling me, because I'm Team No Sleep guys, so
at least it's worth it is what you're telling me.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
Well, tell your dad thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I will definitely will that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
I love him too, George, George, You're okay. At least
at least you told me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Now, Yeah, it came out.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
Wow, somebody just liked the tweet that I said to
you a while ago that said I was going to
wish you happy Father's Day, but never mind.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Somebody just yes, it is when when people like stuff
that is so far back right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Yeah, I don't know what those people do if they
just do a random search or it's like okay, col
you it was two years ago, it's like all right, whatever,
Like I don't know how they even come across that.
It's it's different right there, Brian knowing George Reister with
you here on Fox Sports Radio. You know, one more
thing with the gambling stuff, George, are you skeptical that

(01:09:46):
there might be a big name player out there in
the NFL that has been found out to have violated
the gambling policy but they sort of look the other way?
Are you skeptical that might be what we're looking at here?

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
What do you oh that that that they are that
it's some sort of big name that they're that they're
giving a pass to right now that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
They're just they're looking the other way. You know, it's
that you're speeding on the highway and you know what, Yeah,
we'll let it slide. I'm skeptical. I do not know
this to be a fact.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
That's they can't they they and and that's why I
think that investigating this too closely. Oh, they are flying
close to the sun, buddy, they are flying close to
the sun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I mean, as soon as you find out that you know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
That that Patrick Mahomes that he made a bet on
Texas Tech versus you know, Okla, Oklahoma while while he
was driving out of the damn facility parking lot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Baby, and he's gone for the year.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Nah, that'll be sick games like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
The Well, that's true, you're right, you're right, you're right,
assuming it's not NFL related, But still six games. I'm
thinking the NFL. I just look at this list of
the nine players who have been suspended, and the biggest
name is Jamison Williams, who was a twelfth overall pick
wide receiver with the Lions. Everybody else do some of

(01:11:20):
these dudes are free agents? Some of that, like a
lot of these dudes got suspended are released immediately. Like
the NFL, they are not releasing players right away. Even
a guy like Calvin Ridley, he got traded, you know
what I'm saying, Like Atlanta traded him. They didn't just

(01:11:41):
flat out release him. So I don't know. I'm skeptical.
George when you start throwing out Rashad Barry and Demetrius
Taylor and Stanley Barry Hill, and I'm like, there's not
one big name player that's violated this policy, not one
that they know about. I'm very skeptical about that. And

(01:12:02):
there was that report in Pro Football Talk that there
was a big name player that had lost eight million
dollars gambling. Again, do you feel strongly that all those
bets were entered on the up and up followed those
rules to a sea, I'm skeptical. I think this is
the first wave and they're picking at largely the no names,

(01:12:23):
and they're letting it be known like this will happen
if you violate the rules here. So I think the
I think the big name players sort of being ushered
into this new era. They're grandfathered in with no suspensions,
is what I think is going on here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
That's as soon as word gets out that somebody did that,
oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
See that's the problem. They can't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
They can't and this is why the tactic that they've
taken is a bad tactic. But if you know, if
Tom Brady, Patch Mahomes, Russell Wilson, anybody else, if they
placed the bet on the NFL, you gotta throw them out, right,
But placing a bet on another sport, Oh my god, right,
the fans will revolt.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
They will.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
They will have to resend all of these suspensions and
be like all right, okay, cool, we're we're, we're we're
we're gonna actually revise this policy and the punishment for
non NFL betting.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Well, that's the other thing is how would it be known? Like,
let's just say what you brought up is true. There's
a total hypothetical, George. But right, Patrick Mahomes gets in
his ride, he's leaving the team facility, and he's like, oh, shoot,
that's right, I meant to bet on the Florida Gators.
Right he enters that bet before he is out of

(01:13:47):
the parking lot. That is a violation. If the NFL
didn't pop him for that, who would ever know? Like
what reporter gets that story leaked to them from the book,
Who has all of the geo tracker? You know what
I'm saying, Like, yep, they might just keep that in

(01:14:09):
house the NFL. I don't know, man, I could. I
just find it to be very suspicious that it's almost
all no name people and not one bigger name, not
one has violated this policy. When you just said, George,
there are so many players that didn't know all the
nuts and bolts about every facet of the gambling policy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Yep, it's a It was a disastrous set of events
the way that they chose to do it. And there
is only so long that you can fly close to
the sun. Only so so long that you can fly
close to the sun until you get burned.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Good news. We heard back from Adam Kaplan FSR NFL
Insider and he said, we're okay, thankfully, got a scare,
but we're okay, So everything's good. He had to cut
the interview short, there was a potential emergency situation, but
happy to report everything's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Everything's good, okay, okay, man, see, yeah, great news.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Great news, absolutely okay. Coming up next, George, we get
to your purple and gold here. You're you're excited. I
understand it, but you might need to push back just
a little bit. We'll do that around the corner. I'm
Brian No, He's George Reister. This is Fox Sports Radio.
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Com studio. Shout out to Iowa sam Our technical producer. Great,
great selection right there. Any love for Soundgarden on your
It's not metal, George, it's not metal, So let's start
with that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
I was just gonna say that that this is not terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
This is one of my favorite Sound Gardens songs. This
is a great song, absolutely great song.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Yeah, it's it's like you you can actually understand what
these character as are saying. I'm not I'm not mad
at this at all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Yeah, and uh fitting right fourth of July right around
the corner. Any big plans for the fourth on your
end there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
George, bro I'm big, I'm big, chilling going. Actually I'm
not even gonna say what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Because it's gonna because uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
I will more. I'll probably be at the country club
with them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Okay, all right, because like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
So you can see I'll be able to see Actually
I could probably stand outside of my my house because
I'll probably be able to see the Shepherd fire. Would
like to like one of the fireworks from my house
from the new Crib, so, uh so I could, But
I'll probably head up to the country club. They're supposed

(01:16:51):
to have like a dope Fourth of July thing, so
the entire family will come up there hang out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
So should be good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
I hope that's good for you, man, I hope very well.
Now free agency has gone very well for you because
you love what your Lakers have done, and they've had
a good offseason. I'm not gonna say they haven't. But
in terms of like springboarding themselves as the favorites in
the West, now, no, No, that's where I got to

(01:17:21):
pump the brakes on that whole thing, George, Like, what
has swung the balance from last season to this season?
Is it enough where the Nuggets lost Bruce Brown and
the Lakers have brought in who Gabe, Vincent, Jackson Hayes,
that's been enough to swing it? When they lost in
six convincingly?

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
See see here's the here, here's the thing. No, is
that the Lakers did not even have a chance to
play with their full team all year. They got they
re signed Austin Reeves, the Angelo, Russell Ruey High tomorrow,
they add Turion Prince, Gabe Vinson, Jackson Hayes, and Cam

(01:18:05):
Reddish and that all accounted for forty four million dollars. Man,
come on, we and we are and we're still not
in the luxury text either.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
We're listen to you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Oh bro, how bro?

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Do you have competent pieces that can score from? Like
everybody on the court can is a competent NBA player.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Your your rotation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
In the playoffs is gonna be nine to nine deep,
maybe ten deep.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
You are in a good spot, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
That means less stress on Lebron and a d and
in the inevitable point that they miss a few games,
they will be a okay baby, there it will.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Be no play in. We no play in. We will
be flirting with the one seed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Oh my gosh, listen, you are nauseating over here. Goodness,
you're over indulging in Laker optimism. You know you're gonna
tip over pretty soon here, because Okay, you re up
with Austin Reeves, Rui Hachimura.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
You bring in Gabe Vincent. Okay, got some notoriety getting
to the finals with Miami. You re up with D'Angelo Russell,
who was freaking awful against the Denver Nuggets, brutal. So
it's like, yeah, some of these moves for depth not bad,
but I don't think you can overstate it. It's still

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what you do top end wise more times than that.
That's how it's determined in the NBA, and the top
end talent is better with Denver then the Lakers. Like, Okay,
you get Torrian Prince. That's nice. You can give you
a few minutes. That's not gonna swing it where the
Lakers are favored to come out of the West. That's
too much.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
The Denver Nuggets had a great year this year. Fantastic year.
The Lakers added defensive help. Oh do they so so
much better?

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
I do enough?

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
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(01:20:49):
of the big names staying put in free agency, but
we're gonna see some names on the move. Damian Lillard
has asked for a trade. James Harden will be traded
because the Sixers didn't want to commit to him long term,
which is, uh, I think admirable. I think you look

(01:21:09):
at the Sixers and I understand where they would say
multiple years. We're talking four years. Nah no, no, no, no,
They're gonna look to move up. You agree with that, George,
I do agree with that move, But there are often
teams that negotiate from a standpoint of fear where they're like, well,
if not him, then then who then what? And the

(01:21:30):
Sixers didn't look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
That is a terrible decision, Like you should never do
that ever, because it's I mean, it's like the Jake
Cutler thing where the Bears are like, well, we don't
have anybody else, we don't have anybody else, like okay.

(01:21:53):
So so that means that you give a bad contract. No,
you figure it out that you do not. And I've
learned this in life, and a recent experience just echoed
what I've thought about this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Do not throw good money after bad do not it.
They're like, well, it's sunk cost him too far invested. No,
you're not. You are never too far invested in a in.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
A bad idea, Get out of the get out. Stop
wasting your time, stop wasting your energy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
Don't waste your jail time.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Don't waste you like, don't waste your life on a
on a losing proposition.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yeah, no, it's great as great perspective. It's you know
what's funny is you can see how much is writing
on the postseason. And I know some people say, no kidding, no,
obviously that But for James Harden, it's a distant memory
that he led the league in assists, Like, he didn't
have a bad season. But what happened in those losses

(01:23:01):
against the Celtics. We talked about it, George. It was
the best of the best and the worst of the worst,
because he had two games where he scored over forty
and willed the Sixers to wins over Boston. But the
losses he was freaking brutal. I think three point range.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
But also it's the fourth quarters.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Too, well that too, but just from three point range
in the losses against Boston, he's shooting twelve percent. Yeah,
like that just can't happen. So the point is that's
all we remember with Harden and we get away from
the good of the regular season. With all that being said,
I don't think he can commit to him. If you're
the Sixers long term, I think you're better off pivoting

(01:23:45):
and moving in a different direction. I think that makes
a lot of sense. But the question now is who
thinks of it completely differently and says, let's trade for
James Harden when you can't sign him to an extension.
It's just this next season and then he's going to
be a free agent.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Yeah, so see the see the issue at trading for
James Harden and getting James Hardener.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Your team is you know, has multiple facets to it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
First thing is he he doesn't bring winning culture with him,
like with his energy and effort. On the defensive end,
it's too it's too like he'll defend in the post
because there's like some ego.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Involved in her. He doesn't want to just get pushed around.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
And yes, he defends better than he used to where
where he would just.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
You know, be a just an old lay defense.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
But he also you know, he he doesn't display the
type of work ethic that you want in general, like
is he a great player?

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Absolute?

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
But when the talk of him going back to Houston
came about, I was like, why would Houston want him
around all those young young players, Like, he's not the
adult in the room that you want in those crucial times. Yeah,
you're right, and you actually need and when you've actually
brought adults in the room like Russell Westbrook and Chris Paul,

(01:25:22):
he ain't like it because then they were like, yeah,
there were reports of Russell Westbrook saying, oh no, no, no, no, no,
we waiting on James to start to start this meeting,
this meeting starting right now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
He ain't on time. That ain't that ain't our problem.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Now let's think about this too, George Brian knowing George
Reister with you here on Fox Sports Radio. What the
Rockets did do was bringing Dylan Brooks, who you could
argue isn't the adult in the room either. They signed
him to a four year, eighty million dollar deal. And
you know, I hear you on not bringing Harden in there.

(01:26:04):
I get that. But they bring in Dylan Brooks, who
a lot of people would look at and say Okay,
immature he's talking about you know, Lebron James is old.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
But would you call him immature though.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Dylan Brooks, Yes, I mean it does a lot immature.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
He's a he's an ahole, is what right?

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Yeah, he's more that than yes, yeah, but he is
also an adult like you. He's an All NBA defender.
He had shot the ball better prior to his role
changing last year with the emergence of Desmond Bane. And
mind you, I have had some things to say about

(01:26:46):
Dylan Brooks that aren't so flattering. However, I'm a you know,
I'm a broker of truth.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
That's a duck on duck crime, right there, George Goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Listen, listen, the the the broker of truth.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
He knows no relationship it. It just is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
And so I believe that Dylan Brooks, with his energy
and effort, is actually gonna be good for this young
Houston Rockets team because you've never heard reports of Dylan
Brooks not showing up for work on time, not being
a professional, not working hard.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
And he's kind of a you know, he's kind of
a prick.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
So then imagine like if you can get that kind
of chippy attitude with the Houston Rockets and that young
core with Emi Udoka, Like he will be the market
smart He'll be the Draymond Green.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
I mean, even though even though he's a dollar.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
General Draymond Green in terms of you know, like the
playmaking and passing ability. If he leans into that and
refines his game in that way, oh my god, he
will have a tremendous net positive impact on the Houston Rockets.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Well it's interesting because, huh if if Dylan Brooks is
the same guy on a winning team, he's looked at
completely differently. There are guys like think think of Dennis Rodman.
If he played on teams that didn't win championships, how
we would look at that guy. Or this goes back
in the hot tub time machine, but remember Bruce Bowen

(01:28:29):
with the Spurs, How he's a great defensive player, would
get under your skin that sort of thing. We looked
at him like, oh man, you need that, you need
some dog on your team. If he's doing that for
a team that's not advancing in the playoffs, we would
look at those guys the way that most people look
at Dylan Brooks. Right now. The thing and I don't know,
if you're gonna yell at me, you might not based

(01:28:50):
on what you've said there, George. But with Marcus Smart
going to the Grizzlies, it was taken as like, oh
my gosh, this is great, you know, leadership maturity and Dylan.
Don't get me wrong, Marcus Smart is a leader. But
I think that Marcus Smart and Dylan Brooks are looked
at in two completely different lights, and although Marcus Smart

(01:29:14):
is a better all around player, they are closer than
what their reputations are. Dylan Brooks is an absolute grinder.
He's a very good defender. He's a better scorer than
Marcus Smart is, and he's looked.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
At whoa whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
You want me to throw numbers at you over here,
easily a better scorer. Marcus Smart has never averaged over
thirteen points in any season in his NBA career. Last
four seasons for Dylan Brooks sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, fourteen points
per night.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Uh have you looked at the efficiency numbers, dude?

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Last year he was the worst field goal shooter in
the NBA, the worst in terms of field goal effective
field goal percentage, the worst so so.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Larry Picking one season, heeps for forty one percent for
his career. You know, mark from the field, Where.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Where on earth is that good?

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Marcus Smart is worse. Marcus Smart is thirty eight percent
from the field, Marcus Smart from three worse. Marcus Smart
shoots worse. He's not a better scorer than Dylan Brooks.
These are like you see in your side mirror where
it says objects are closer than they appear. Dylan Brooks
is much closer to Marcus Smart than most people would

(01:30:40):
make you believe.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
And now there is some truth to people look at
you in a different light when you when you do win. However, though, however,
now you are looking at career numbers, right, you're looking.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
At the right See, I'm looking by career also season
by season and when and Dylan Dylan Brooks shot thirty
nine percent from the field last season and on his
career and on his career forty one percent, but thirty
nine percent last year, forty three this season before that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
So we're gonna sit up here and act like that
that is that that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
It's better than Marcus Smart. I'm not telling you that
he's Steph Curry. Okay, I'm not telling you that. I'm
telling you he's a better offensive player than Marcus Smart is.
He shoots it better, He's averaged more points, like he
has more. He's been in the league for six years.

(01:31:46):
Four of those years, he's averaged more than Marcus Smart
ever has in any season in his career.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
And I am not disparaging him, but but when it
comes to the playoffs and all that stuff, who would
you rather be making?

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Hey that listen with Dylan Brooks and the Ipoke Bears
and with that backfiring royally on him. It's hurt his reputation,
There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
But it didn't hurt his reputation around the league clearly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Well, hey, i mean four years, eighty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
It's clearly a lot is clearly teams around the league
that are saying, uh, I'll take that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
I will take that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Well, I also think this too, where like, let's not
get it twisted, Marcus Smart has been a hot head too.
These guys are wired similarly and are thought and largely
that's good. But look, if you look at technical George.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Yeah, I do want to give you some credit because.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
I did not realize either that Marcus Smart's shooting was
this freaking bad. Oh good God, And and and I
knew that his three point percentage was bad, right, his
three point percentage was bad. But and that that's why
he ends up with those last shots.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
But however, though, when you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Yeah, and when you look at their effective field goal percentage,
now the last couple of seasons, Marcus Smart is blowing
him out of the water. Okay, blowing him out of
the water. But I mean because Dylan Brooks he gets
more layups because he's you know, because of the role

(01:33:27):
that he plays on the team. He gets more layups
and dunks, whereas Marcus Smart is shooting more jump shots
and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
So this is just tough, broy Man.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
But from three, but look for three point range is
three point range, right, Dylan Brooks has shot it better
than Marcus Smart over the course of his career.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
Yeah, like, well, well, I mean better better. Ain't good
with with either one of them, dudes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Dylan Brooks for his career, you like to have both
plus thirty five, You would like to have it plus
thirty five, Yeah, but I'll take thirty four over thirty two.
Marcus Smart is that thirtoth of those.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Both of those guys are leave open guys. And that's
why you know he had some big games in the
playoffs because he was in Marcus Smart, because he was
able to hit some of those shots because they were like, listen,
if he keeps hidden shots'll y'all just gonna win and
he ain't gonna do it game after game. But no,
there was a signing in the NBA though, that honestly

(01:34:31):
is is, I believe better than probably the most important
signing of any team.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Well, let's get to that coming up, because I want
to It sounds like we need to stretch our legs
out a little bit on that. But let me put
a bow on this real fast. Because when Dylan Brooks
was released and the Grizzlies traded for Marcus Smart, it
was taken as like, oh gosh, this you're talking about
leadership stability like and it's like, really, if you look

(01:35:00):
at Marcus Smart, he's very similar to Dylan Brooks. He's
a hothead too. If you look at technical files the
last couple of years, George Dylan Brooks had eighteen, Marcus
Smart had eleven. Season prior Dylan Brooks with thirteen, Marcus
Smart with eight. I've seen Marcus Smart go ballistic on
officials before numerous times, so I just think it's interesting

(01:35:22):
that we look at Marcus Smart largely as this ridiculous
clown says these obnoxious things, and Marcus Smart is just
he's the picture of stability. It really. I just think
they're much closer than that. I think Marcus Smart better
all around player because he's been a three time defensive
guy First Team, He's been the Defensive Player of the Year.

(01:35:45):
I give him the nods certainly in defense, but offensively,
Dylan Brooks is better man. I just think they're a
lot closer than most people. I'm surprised at you, George.
You are enlightened man over there. Yeah, open minded.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Listen. I clearly had a blind spot there, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
I will not I will not be caught with the
banana and the tailpipe.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Again on that one that I'm I am offended at myself.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
But right, reputation wise, Marcus Smart's reputation is world's better
than Dylan Brooks's, right, And I don't think it should
be that way. I don't agree with it, but you
would agree with that right if you just ask the
common person. Dylan Brooks and Marcus smart to. Oh gosh,
are you kidding me with that question? They're much closer.

(01:36:35):
I think we got to get to your thought coming
up here at George, what did you say the the
biggest sign Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
No, the most important signed.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Most important signing. Okay, we'll do that. And also there's
a bold prediction NFL style that is very likely to
be wrong. We'll get to both of those things coming up.
I'm Brian No, He's George Reister. This is Fox Sports Radio.
I'm Brian No. He's George Reister here on Fox Sports Radio.
We're coming to you live from the tirerec dot Com studios. Man,

(01:37:04):
I'm racking my brain over you. I got a couple
of guesses, George, as to who you think is the
most valuable signing and free agency?

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Do I have that right, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
The most valuable I've got I've.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Got to guess to their particular team.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
To their particular team. Yeah, I've gotten outside the box
guess and then a more of a standard guess. Okay,
which would you like?

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
First?

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Are you going outside the box?

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Standard guess?

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Standard guests would be Eric Gordon going to the Suns.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
Absolutely not No, not on the list.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Okay, my outside the box thought. As to what you
might say, Yep, Derek Rose to the Grizzlies, ding Ding,
I should have gone with outside the Box.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
What's your reasoning on this one?

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
Because Derek Row was turned down more money in his
player option this year than he got, so this signals
to me that he wanted to go to Memphis that
because he wants to help joh Moran, because Jah likes
to hang with gangsters right now right and is on
the verge of throwing his.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Career away, possibly his life.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
Derek Rose has experience with this, even though it didn't
come out in the media and all of this. He
was the young woman that he was involved with, was
the daughter of one of the biggest gangsters in Chicago,
and so and so. He has experience with this sort

(01:38:42):
of thing. And if anybody can mentor John Morant and
get through to Jahn Morant and you have the respective.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
John Morant is a former.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
MVP former you know, a guy who won an MVP
over Lebron even though Lebron should have won the award year.
A man who has been through the trials and tribulations.
He's been at the mountaintop and now he's in you know,
and now he's an NBA backup mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
No, I like the thought process behind it for everything
that you mentioned. Think about you know, the stage, the spotlight,
Derek Rose, former number one overall pick the spotlight is
bright there in Chicago, former league MVB like you mentioned,
and now as a backup slash mentor to John Morant.
I absolutely get the thought process behind that move from Memphis.

(01:39:35):
Of course, there's gonna be those jokes its floating around
now it's guns n' roses with John and Derreck Rose.
But you're gonna get all those jokes. Whatever doesn't matter.
If this can in any way help Memphis is superstar
and John Morant yes, by all means you do it.
And I think that sometimes the money with some of

(01:39:57):
these deals, that's what catches our attention. But I think
you also have to look at impact. And if you
look at Eric Gordon going to the Phoenix Suns, they're
bargain shopping here with their Big three slash. It's like
a big three plus a junior and DeAndre Ayton. They
get Eric Gordon on a two year deal for six
million dollars. The Clippers. They didn't guarantee Eric Gordon's twenty

(01:40:21):
one million dollar contract last week, and the team saves
over one hundred million dollars and its projected tax bill.
It doesn't mean Eric Gordon can't play. And for the
Suns to go bargain shopping and get that guy on
a six million dollar deal over two years, that is
a win for Phoenix, no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Yeap, oh yeah, yes, that that is definitely because they
are going to have trouble filling out their roster with
good players. They're going to have massive trouble with the
way this team has has the way it's set up,
Bradley being the Kevin Durant, Devin Booker Ayton.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
They are already in the salary in.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
The luxury tax crazy before they get other players. I
mean it's with all their players and contracts committed, including campaign,
they're already at one hundred and seventy five million dollars.
Then they signed Eric Gordon. This is ah, this is uh,
this will not work.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
You can book it the Sons altogether.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
Oh yeah no, no, yeah, is that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Are you saying Eric Gordon or the Suns just what
they're going for right here? To top heavy.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Yeah, oh yes, when dude, it's to get rich quick scheme.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
Yeah, there is no.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
There is no point in time where where you can
it well in NBA history, right, it was in recent history.
With free agency the way it is, you've not been
able to just buy a team. Something goes wrong the
Brooklyn Nets, they end up having injuries and infighting and

(01:42:08):
all of this stuff. Whenever you try to get rich
quick scheme, it does not work. I mean, yes, they yes,
they drafted Booker and drafted eight, but now throwing away
your depth, I mean there's no way that they're gonna
be able to get many. I mean, it ain't too
many more Eric Gordon's he's just sick of being on

(01:42:30):
bad teams. Hey and they and they paid him a
reasonable amount of money, but everybody else is gonna have
to be on minimum contracts and all you're gonna get
is the Blake Griffins of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
But that's what I'm saying. For that type of money,
that's what I was expecting for their roster to largely
look like where it's like who it's the old who
he played for a game on TNT when they grill Barkley,
you know, the Sons are a prime candidate for who
he played for type you know, supporting cast if you will.

(01:43:03):
And to get a guy like Eric Gordon, I'm not
telling you he's all NBA, but at thirty four years old,
he's a guy that can shoot it, that's a competent
NBA player. So that's a win. That is absolutely a
win for the Suns. You might be right, it might
not work. It's the opposite of what they were doing.
They were building with you know, young talent, like young

(01:43:24):
depth mixed with their star talent, and they said, we've
topped out, so we're going in a different direction.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
They have gone completely one eighty from where they were
a couple of seasons ago battling the Bucks. So we'll see.
But getting Eric Gordon is a win. I'll tell you what.
It's always a win when we hear from one Moncey Bolangos,
who's got the latest Monsey? What's going on here? Everything
good in your world?

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
Is so good?

Speaker 5 (01:43:49):
I did kind of laugh out loud when you mentioned
Blake Griffin.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
Because it's like a oh man, yeah, what happened to
that guy? Why? Why did he have.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
To go the way he did? A crazy how much
it's changed from where he was to now. It's like
you're only gonna get someone like Blake Griffin. But that's accurate.
That's where it's.

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
All accurate, for sure, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
I just saw him at the US Open the other week.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Oh really, Yeah, he's just out there watching the golf.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
Well you know what else is he gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Yeah, he's got nothing else.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
That's going on. I get it. I went to see
about two years ago when I went to New York.

Speaker 5 (01:44:23):
I went to watch the Brooklyn Nets play the Chicago
Bulls and he was on the team. He was on
the Nets team, so I wore my I went to
the All Star Game.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
Was a twenty eleven where.

Speaker 5 (01:44:34):
He was technically a rookie but it was his second year,
and he like jumped over the car. They were selling
this like soccer clipper Blake Griffin Jersey, and I wore
that to this game in New York.

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
Super random. But he didn't even play, so good stuff.
Good stuff for me.

Speaker 5 (01:44:50):
Let's talk about baseball, because we officially know who was
going to the All Star Game. On July eleventh in Seattle,
twenty six players are going to be making their All Star.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
Debut obviously, Clayton Kershaw of the Dodgers not his first time.

Speaker 5 (01:45:02):
He's gonna be making his tenth All Star appearance, second
only to Angels Mike Trout, who will be making his eleventh.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
All Star Game.

Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
Choeyotani became a two way All Star for the third
straight year, the only player.

Speaker 4 (01:45:14):
In Major League history to be in the All Star
as a two way player.

Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
Atlanta Braves are sending eight players to the All Star Game,
the most out of any team since the twenty twelve
Texas Rangers and the most out of any National League
team since the two thousand and eight Chicago Cubs.

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
Their entire infield is going to the All Star Game.
That's pretty awesome. The Rangers have six All Stars this
year and the Dodgers have five All Stars this year.

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
Earlier today, though, let's talk about what happened in Major
League Baseball. Victories for the Nationals who beat the Phillies,
Red Sox.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
Took down the Blue Jays.

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
Victories for the Royals, the Astros, the Tigers, the Mariners
who beat the Rays seven to six.

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
They held on to win that one. Your Cardinals beat
the Yankees five to one. How about Aaron Boone.

Speaker 5 (01:45:56):
Getting ejected for the fifth time this season balls and
strikes in the third inning. That would be me, guys,
if I was an I was manager, I think I'd.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
Be like Aaron Booton. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (01:46:07):
Angels with a five to two victory over the Diamondbacks,
Shoeyo Tani hitting his thirty first homer of the season,
which leads Major League Baseball. Birds took down the Pirates,
and the Reds beat the Padres four to three. Milwaukee
and Cincinnati are still tied for the top spot in
the NL Central Orioles finally snapped their four game losing
street they beat the Twins two to one, and right now,

(01:46:28):
Guardians and Cups. After a long rain delay, they're back
in action, but they are scoreless top of the third inning.
The Giants and the Mets are also scoreless bottom of
the second inning. And NBA news, the Bulls have applied
to the NBA for a disabled player exception worth ten
point two million due to the injury of Lonzo Ball,
who is expected to miss the entire twenty twenty three
to twenty twenty four season.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
And you know, NBA free agency.

Speaker 5 (01:46:50):
Continues, so earlier today, Jordan Clarkson finalizing a three year,
fifty five million dollar extension with the Utah Jazz. You
guys already mentioned Eric Gordon two years, the suns Worth
six million, Lonnie Walker one year deal with the Brooklyn Nets,
and onto the w NBA because Dreams.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Ran Ryan Ryan, Bryan, that's probably Ryan.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
Ryan Howard hit six three pointers and had a career
high forty three points, and the dream beat the Sparks
one twelve to eighty four.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
You go, girl. Back to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
Good stuff. Monzy is always great stuff. Yes, Brian No
George Reister with you here on Fox Sports Radio. Man,
it's crazy. When Monzy was talking about Lonzo Ball missing
another season, it sounds like some old school stuff like
Gail Sayers when you'd had a knee injury and your
career is over. Like it's twenty twenty three and this

(01:47:42):
dude's gonna miss another season. I hate it. I hate
that it's gone that way for Lonzo Ball's career.

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
And we don't even know if it's just a season.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
Yeah, it might it might be.

Speaker 5 (01:47:52):
There were reports a couple of weeks ago where they
don't think he's gonna play again.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
Man's that's so sad.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
Oh man, it's so sad because he's so talented and
he was coming into his own in terms.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Of who he's going to be in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
Like he wasn't going to be an NBA superstar like
some people initially thought, but he did have you know,
fifteen year NBA potential as a starter, like and might
be able to sneak in the All Star game season
in every now and then.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
But he Like, it's just so sad, but.

Speaker 3 (01:48:35):
You always like to at least have have players paid well.
And and when you think about all the stuff that
he's gone through with the with the shoes and with
you know, all sorts of stuff, and then how much
money was stolen from him, at least the fact that

(01:48:57):
he's going to get out of this whole deal making
well over one hundred million dollars is.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
I'm happy for him. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
You go back to when it first started for Lonzo's
career getting drafted by the Lakers, and you remember this, George,
you too, Monsie, But remember when Magic Johnson said this.

Speaker 10 (01:49:16):
I'm gonna put a little pressure on you. Right now.
You look to your right, there's some jerseys hanging on
that wall. With expect a ball jersey hanging up there
one day.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
All right, good ouch man. You talk about expectations as
what the number two overall pick. That was rough. I
know Magic didn't mean to put him in a bad spot,
but it did. And that's the way we looked at
Lonzo is well, he's not this and not that. And
like you said, George, he's a very good defensive player

(01:49:47):
and was coming into his own to really feel comfortable
in his role where his shooting his shot, Remember his
form was so wonky in college, and he did a
lot to mix.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
We built his whole shot.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Yeah. Yeah, And now this knee injury is just lingering, man,
lingering and lingering. It's so sad. I hate that. I
want to throw this at you too. As far as
the NFL goes, So Tristan Wurf's offensive lineman with Tampa, yep,
he was on a podcast and he said that he's
predicting the Buccaneers will go twelve and five this year.

(01:50:23):
What do you think about that, George? You think Tampa
twelve and five gonna happen?

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
That sounds like something with Rooky says, I mean, really,
it really does.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
With Rookie optimism right there.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
Yeah, with who's throwing the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
Baker Mayfield, yeah, or Kyle Trask, Yeah, one of the two.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
I actually think you're probably I think that the I
know that this is good that you're gonna be like,
hold o, George, I actually think that they have a
better chance of going twelve and four.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
Now, now, granted, I think they have no chance of
going twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
Well, actually, first thing is, he don't even know what
the hell he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
Oh he said it, right, he said twelve and five.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
Okay, I was about to say it. I was about saying.
First thing is he don't.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Even playing seventeen? No, yeah, yeah, he said twelve and five.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Second thing is is is I think that they have
a better chance of going twelve and five with Kyle
Trask at quarterback than Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
We know who Baker Mayfield is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Wow, Well that's I disagree with you, Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
We don't know who Kyle Trask is. No, but can
can present.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
A greater upside because I totally what is Baker's upside
to you?

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Well, listen, I this is gonna be a little nuanced
because I half agree with you, half don't like Kyle
Trask the unknown. I think you're better off as an
organization exploring that, like, hey, let's just find out. Maybe
he's better, maybe he's not. But we know largely what
Baker Mayfield is and how far we're gonna go, like

(01:52:03):
what our ceiling truly is. But that doesn't mean you're
in a better position to go twelve and five.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
Has all that position, I'm saying that you are. I'm
saying that if I were betting, if you gave me
odds right of them going twelve and five, I would
bet on Kyle Trash no way before I bet on
Baker Mayfield because hold on, because for for for Baker Mayfield,

(01:52:30):
I feel like there's a zero percent chance that that
that can happen.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
And for college for number one overall, pick Kyle Trask.
I'm looking it up. How many passes you think he's
thrown in his NFL career?

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
Jue zero?

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
He has thrown nine passes in his NFL career.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
That matters none to me, So I it is so
experience does it matter?

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
Of course, experience, man, Okay, well that's got to matter.

Speaker 3 (01:52:59):
No, And experience tells us that Baker Mayfield is not
taking his team to twelve to twelve and five, there's
a zero percent chance that they go twelve and five.
With Baker Mayfield starting all seventeen games.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
There's a less than zero percent chance they go there.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
No, there is the unknown chance.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
So at least we can say, all right, that maybe
this dude turns out to be freaking Brett Favre or
he turns out to be something spectacular.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
No, we don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
So there so I'm giving him a If I'm giving
Baker Mayfield a zero percent chance of them going twelve
and five, I am giving Kyle Trask a point seventy
five percent chance they go.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Point seven five. It's it's for negative fifty it's negative
fifty percent for Kyle trascoing twelve and five. He's thrown
nine passes George and his NFL career.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
It means zero passes.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
How many passes had Tom Brady thrown before Tom Brady started?

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
That's Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
That How many passes did did Steve Young throw before
Steve Young threw?

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
He threw many more than nine.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
No, I'm saying prior to him being the forty nine
ers starter.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Yeah, he was in Tampa, like he threw way more
than nine passes before he start many.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
How many passes did Brett Favre throw before? What in Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Well, not many in Atlanta, but he did not hit
the grad running.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
That's he didn't hit the crowd running.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
We got told how many passes did did Aaron Rodgers
throw in his first.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Three four years? League?

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Perfect? What the first year where they go like five
and eight, six and start league?

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
How how many? How many passes had Aaron Rodgers start?

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Okay? So Aaron Rodgers in his first three years? I
can't do the quick math. Thirty one plus twenty eight,
so fifty nine, okay, And that first year, George as
a starter six and ten. That's the whole point. You
have some of the best quarterbacks ever in their first
season starting largely have awful records largely more times than not.

(01:55:19):
I like how it has turned into a debate, because
there's no doubt Tampa is not going twelve and five.
But I like the Baker versus Trask thing. Very nice.
By all right, Coming up next, I tap into your
NFL career here, George. We're talking freaky athleticism and famous games.
We'll have some fun with that. I'm Brian No, He's
George Reister. This is Fox Sports Radio. One one from

(01:55:42):
hands swinging.

Speaker 11 (01:55:43):
A fly ball left field, way backing, laugh, damn about it,
Jake Moriznik. Second Grand Slam of the day for the Tigers,
and it's a fourteen shit lead here in the eightes.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
I'm Brian No, He's George Reister here on Fox Sports Radio.
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(01:56:23):
radio network. Tigers win fourteen to nine. George, they hit
two Grand slams. Figures they would. I had money on
the over yesterday, didn't hit today. They combined for twenty
three runs. As that's the way it works in gambling, George.
They just needle you from time to time. I think
they know somehow. They're like, yeah, let's twist the knife

(01:56:46):
a little bit today. Boys, what do you say how
it can work out? Sometimes? Hey, did you see saquon
Barkley squatting five hundred and eighty five pounds like it
was maybe one hundred pounds the other day. He's quadzilla, Bro,
that is unbelievable. I think he did four reps without shoes.

(01:57:06):
Have you done that before? George? Have you squatted without shoes?

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
Because that wasn't like a thing when I was playing.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
Yeah, I wonder how much more difficult it is to
do it that way? But he went shoeless. What is
the freakiest thing you've seen going back to your NFL
days in an NFL weight room? Does anything come to mind?

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
Oh so, Kyle Brady?

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Yeah, Actually I'm not I'm not even gonna tell this story.
Oh no, what I can't? Bro it? Is it?

Speaker 5 (01:57:44):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
That's just loser? Wow? You want to?

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
You want to? You want to tell it?

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
I can tease us, fine, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
He would come in and say, and it would say,
oh so he came in with a singlet one time.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
Right, okay, like wrestling style, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
But he also came in with a with an additional
part inside the singlet. Okay, a massive part, a massive
addition to his singlet. Got it inside of his singlet, Yeah,
and just worked.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
Out like that the whole entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
You couldn't that was the same what top ten pick
that the Jets fans went crazy when that was the selection? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:58:33):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
Did they bypass Warren Sap to draft Kyle Brady? Was
that the same one? It might be the case. I
don't know. I'd have to double check that for sure,
but yeah, wow interesting. How about this too? There was
a perfect game this past week?

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
Yes, right, yeahs.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Do Mingo Herman did it. What is the most famous
game you've either played in or attended? What would you say?
That is, George?

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
The most famous game that? Oh god, yeah, I damn,
I can't even think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:09):
How about how about you?

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
Mine was the Bush Bush game? Notre Dame? Yeah, that one? Yeah,
I know, I know. Go ahead, rub it in, rub it.
How can you be pro usc.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
I'm just I'm not. You're just anti me pro no pain,
pro Brian no pain.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
You're anti no, you're pro pain, pro pro no pain.
There's not a famous game that you took part in?

Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
There has to be, Yes, yes, there is. I just
can't think of it right now because this time.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
We'll go home, we'll say it's the one where you're
hurdled that guy right, we'll put that at the top
of the list. Hey, good stuff, everybody, Enjoy your evening.
Keep it likeed right here on fs R.

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