December 24, 2024 • 50 mins
Rookie Marist Liufau was one of the players wearing the green dot last Sunday. What exactly does that mean? Is there more to it than just calling out plays? And what are some of the games being played between the offense and defense, the checks and rechecks, especially along the line of scrimmage. Plus, talking trash, fighting tough, playing hard … also known as life in the NFL. Merry Christmas!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
This he is hanging with the Boys, presented by wing
Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts Nate.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
What is today? Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (00:38):
Tuesday?
Speaker 7 (00:39):
Tuesday, Tuesday, kind of Friday, kind of Christmas Eve.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 8 (00:44):
Yes, it is Christmas Eve. Other stuff is kind it
is Christmas Eve.
Speaker 7 (00:48):
You are looking kind of live. It's very dark and
dismal and gloomy. It's crummy weather depending on how you
look at it. Because we needed the rain. I just
don't know if we needed this much rain. Would you
look at love Tostedo Championship Plausa outside Fort Center at
the Star Frisco, Texas, where it is thunderstorming sixty one degrees.
The highest sixty three, the low is fifty four.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
That's Shannon you just heard here is Nate. Chris is
in the background. I am Kurt.
Speaker 8 (01:17):
Jesse's on his way so in his.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Place for now. It's our good friend Jazz.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Guys Hi jazz.
Speaker 8 (01:25):
How we're good.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Good to see today? Yeah, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 8 (01:28):
You got to finish, finish.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Oh together, I've got to sports equivalent together with a
sports equivalent of Braille people.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
When we speak, when we speak each every day by
Wing Southward Flavored gets wee. By the way, they're a
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wingstuf Q and A Where they are he's interviewing him
(02:02):
and they're eating wings, and Al Harris stops by and
grabs a wing and dips it in ranch and walks off,
and I need to find yeah.
Speaker 8 (02:09):
Still and again I n t interception.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
There you go. So it is Kurt? Is it your
birthday today?
Speaker 9 (02:16):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:16):
It is not, Nate.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Is it your birthday? Not today, Chris, Mine's in January.
It's not mine.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
Mine's in November.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Jess, is it your birthday today?
Speaker 10 (02:24):
Pas?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Today?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Birthday?
Speaker 11 (02:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (02:29):
I didn't know you were a Christmas Eve baby.
Speaker 12 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (02:31):
I was supposed to be born on the twenty seventh,
so I.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
Came through the wow wow wow, So tell us how
did that happen?
Speaker 9 (02:42):
The birds beat day?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
How old are you today or you're okay telling that
out loud?
Speaker 9 (02:48):
Yeah, I'm twenty five.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
That's in grade to be twenty five again strong how.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
You feel about it.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
It's a quarter of a century, halfway to fifty. Okay
with it?
Speaker 9 (02:58):
Gosh, I feel old now.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
Yeah, you beat one hundred.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
So for those of you that don't know, Jazz is
in the back, uh, she produced it.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Tell everybody what you do in the back.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Produced?
Speaker 9 (03:11):
Girls talk, boys talk. Whenever Chris is out, I'll help
out with all the other shows.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
You know what you do over there for us on
the weekends when in the back, in the back, I
mean like everything in the behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
What was your job basically?
Speaker 9 (03:26):
So the title is production assistant, but like like an
hour ago, we just came from locker room, so we
have to shoot stuff. I worked the audio board, in
the control room, camera operating, jib, edit.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
Still, edit, still, So you do a.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Lot, produce, edit, shoot whatever they ask you to do.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Right, just a rock star and you report to who
do you report to?
Speaker 8 (03:51):
Several people? Rocks and Scott. I'm so sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And you've been around for a.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
While yet.
Speaker 9 (04:01):
I got here twenty twenty one, Okay, So I'm like
one of the ones that started that year that are
still here.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Yeah, because they ran everybody else off because they're hard
people to deal with.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
What happened to Tony. You don't have to know what
happened to Tony. I don't talk to Tony.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Oh real quick, talk about that off the air, all right.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Do you know the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 12 (04:23):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (04:24):
My goodness, yes, currently, yes, currently, Currently it's Cooper Rush.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Okay, who was it before him?
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Dak Prescott? Okay.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I was told as a backstory to that.
Speaker 9 (04:35):
It is a backstory there is in my In my
interview in June with Scott, he asked me if I
need the players and I was like, he was like,
do you know who the quarterback is? I was like,
I'm gonna be honest, I'm all, I'm all for the
camera opera. I was like, but he's not here the players.
Speaker 13 (04:55):
I was like, I'm.
Speaker 9 (04:56):
Here to just, you know, do my job. And I
was like, if I need to learn the players, I
can learn them. So I mean, that's me practice squad guys,
and I can give it to him.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
There you go. You know what, Sometimes those those are
the best hires because a lot of times you get
a lot of you know, fan you know fan people
in here and stuff like that. You're applying for this
job for the technical side and all that.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Sometimes that's a good thing. So but you learned it
and that's good.
Speaker 12 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
I mean you probably give her a random number.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Now she probably knows the number the person's name.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
So I'm assuming after that interview, Scott was like, you
should probably go ahead and learn.
Speaker 9 (05:29):
You know, when I went home after an interview, I
was like, man, I'm getting blew it. I was like, man,
I'm not going to job. And then that's when I
got like the email from HR and I call it Scott.
I was like, does that mean I got the job?
Speaker 8 (05:43):
And he was like yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
So you're like, okay, I'll learn.
Speaker 9 (05:46):
The funny things. Chris told Scott.
Speaker 14 (05:49):
Now, oh, not that you're bitter, not because because when
she got hired, Okay, her job originally he was going
to be she was to log footage.
Speaker 11 (06:03):
Of ours of NFL films and around the league of
different places.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
And if you don't know who the quarterback of.
Speaker 11 (06:10):
The Cowboys is, it'd be really hard to start logging footage.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
He always starts with that.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
You didn't want somebody screwing up your database.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
I got here during training camp, so Rocks and Chris
were going, but it was like Scott and now they're
like my favorite people.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Oh yeah, well good.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
And so you've been here three years? Huh.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
I would let her watch my kids.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Yeah, my baby sister, baby sized kids for like months.
Speaker 8 (06:33):
Oh yeah, well awesome.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Well happy birthday. Thanks for jumping on with us. While
we wait for Jesse. Appreciate you stopping by.
Speaker 9 (06:41):
Hope he shows up.
Speaker 11 (06:43):
Yeah, he says, five minutes late, but eight minutes late,
so he's on Jesse time.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
We know, we all know how that works. So all right,
thanks Jack, Happy holidays.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Straight by the way, Jack really blocks blue and blue
and green and.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
All tip depending on the week. And she decided how
long did you go?
Speaker 8 (07:06):
And you cut it off two weeks ago?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Oh nice, very good. You're growing them back? No, no,
do it? Do it? See you Jazz? All right, nice
little way to start the show.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
What do you guys have planning today? After the show's kind.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Of a weird day day, A lot of people aren't here.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yep, very quiet.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Family stuff? You got both of you have family stuff tonight?
Or do you do all your family stuff.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Tomorrow we'll have dinner and we just got presents to
getting wrap and all that kind of stuff, so.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
We'll have last minute.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
You had stuff to do, and you know.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
What do you do, Nate?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Do you do you buy gifts? Does the wife buy? Yeah?
You just.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
No, my wife she she she you know baby, what
you need what you want to do is She'll tell me.
I said, now that you want me to go ahead
and buy you a gi do you want me to
apply to what you want to do? And she said,
apply to what I want what I want to do,
And that's how I do it now. My grandkids, Yeah,
they getting gifts.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
My kids.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I give them minimum stuff, you know, because they're my
my youngest boys about twenty six. So them days over with,
I'm going I'm doing more for the grandkids and I
and one of them has a scholarship fund, and I'm
praying the other one here soon to get one for
his baby, because when they're up until they at nine
(08:32):
ten years old, I want to be able to put
into that college fund and that right there will pay
dividends in the future. Whereas the game they learning right
now that Nintendo or whatever y'all, I don't know what
the games are. That's that's gonna go away. But the
other thing can help them with cool showed it up
(08:52):
to put into that college fund and that right there
will pay.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, we just we were here on time. We heard
we heard that in live heard that.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Yeah, I also heard. I also heard you got what
you said?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
What what you say?
Speaker 8 (09:05):
He old Jesse, Tom, He just you are just you know,
Jesse defends.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
I've been running the roads all morning, and they are
people forget how to drive in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I don't know if it's like that everywhere else.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
It's just rain out of just hot way to apologizing
quick as and fast.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
Wait, yeah, birthday.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
He acts like it was our fat he was late
now right, See that's how it works.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah that works.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Yeah, that's just Hey, that's that's the politician. Uh, in
the family of Jesse, he's late. Yeah, you're late, and
then you make us feel bad for saying that.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You did sooo well, you know what the traffic is,
So it is, I mean it is.
Speaker 15 (09:48):
I was out with someone else. Can go ahead and
just live it up for you, so you have. But no,
the traffic was crazy.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah, people spun out everywhere, and I.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Saw two major ricks was. All you can do is
pray for him, man, and just pray that they wasn't
doing anything way out of line to get this out
in trouble.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I wonder if it's like that everywhere else, in all
major cities, or it is Dallas that people, oh, it's raining.
Speaker 15 (10:15):
Texas State, Yeah, because I mean up nor if we
drive snow, rain and everything.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
If it snows or sleeps here, gave us stay home.
How many cars did you pass?
Speaker 15 (10:27):
Their flashers were on, the entire lit up the entire
to I hate that the entire.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
Higher tolls. It's like, dude, it's rain, and when when when.
Speaker 11 (10:38):
The flashers are on, it's it's it's missing out.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
When the proper authorities give you a sign two miles
back to get over, and you continue to ride in
the lane they asks you to get out of, and
then a mile before when the line is long, then
you try to force in on the other person, and
who was smart enough to get over? Now we have
another rant a mile back. Now, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
There's always a spot.
Speaker 13 (11:10):
I this is just me dependent on what.
Speaker 15 (11:14):
Right, depending on what time time I'm in, is how
cautious I drive When I'm up north. When I'm up
in this area, I know everybody got full insurance up here.
Speaker 13 (11:31):
I know, I know I cut people, man.
Speaker 8 (11:37):
I know folks on this side.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Of the toe way like TMS out there.
Speaker 15 (11:41):
Yeah, listen, I know everybody up here. We're gonna get out.
They're gonna have good insurance. They're not gonna give you
that fake stuff. They want the police officer to come.
We're gonna write this thing out, so I don't really
be too worried about people hitting me up this. So what.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Road did you say? I gotta be calf once I
get past Northwest Highway.
Speaker 15 (12:04):
Once I get pasted Highway South Highway passing Northwest Highway
to the south.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I was gonna say, no way six thirty five. But
you're probably safe there until.
Speaker 15 (12:14):
No because Northwest Highway you still that still Holland Park area, right,
because if you get off of one of them exits,
that's clear SMU.
Speaker 13 (12:21):
Once I get past the Northwest Highway exit.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I thought you're gonna say, like downtown or something.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Don't go downtown too far? You know that's plus you
done went too far?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
You know what that's called situational a where yes, yes,
when I get past the Northwest Highway going south hands
ten and two.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
I'm checking the mirrors.
Speaker 15 (12:40):
I'm making sure because because you get down that closed
somebody hit you.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
They might just leave you there. It might just lead
you there, and then.
Speaker 15 (12:47):
Then you might be facing the situation where they ain't
got no insurance at all. They give you a shirt
faking shures card as you as you keep going in.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
So once I.
Speaker 13 (12:56):
Get north of Northwest Highway.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Exit, take more more chances.
Speaker 13 (13:01):
You know, always a spot.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
And you know what you brang out? What the camera.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Documented? Yeah, all right, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
We know traffic was bad and we basically just killed
our first segment, so.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
We'll take a break. When we come back, we'll talk
a little bit of football. I like your outfit, by
the way.
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Thank you. He's been two days in a row now. Yeah,
what does it say?
Speaker 15 (13:24):
It's a naughty nice whatever.
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I like.
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It looks very good. Like how you pelvic thrusted there.
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Twenty twenty, coach McCarthy and the Cowboys finished six and ten,
but they won three of their last four, and McCarthy
has said that he felt that springboard of them into
the twenty twenty one season, where they finished twelve and five.
Do you think the same thing is happening now they're
finishing strong?
Speaker 8 (17:18):
I'm sorry, Well that carry over?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Look, Look, I think there's something to that. I don't
know how much of that carries over when you have
this many guys that may not be here next year.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
They like to preach that, but I don't know if it's.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Yeah, it is that lip service. I know we know
how you feel about that. You don't think it carries over,
but it's good to end the season on a if
you could win what two of these next one of these,
next two?
Speaker 8 (17:47):
What if you win both of them?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
If you win both of them, finish nine and eight?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
If you win both of them at nine and you
finished nine and eight with with this team?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
And what's happened?
Speaker 7 (18:01):
And like, you know, Jordan Lewis said that the last
few weeks, this is the football team we knew we
could be.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
What does that mean? Why haven't you been that? Is
it the injuries?
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Is it was?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Did it take you this long to figure it out?
Speaker 9 (18:16):
Is?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
If why just now?
Speaker 7 (18:20):
If that's who you knew you could be because you
didn't add any players. In fact, you you know, you
lost a couple, you lost it overshown and you know
you got Michael back.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
You tank still not is he gonna? He's not?
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Is he gonna?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Is there any word on him?
Speaker 8 (18:35):
Yeah? And then Digs is you know Diggs will get
to him.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
In a minute having bone graph surgery.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
So but why why is that just something you? Is
that just players speak? I knew, we knew that we
could be this team? Well, okay, what happened?
Speaker 15 (18:56):
It's a great question, and I don't know if I
have an answer for it, but there is something to
be said when you when you play a care free
level of a football, when there is no expectations, when
there is no no one's looking for you to make
some sort of playoff serves or the the the expectation
(19:19):
of you being this super Bowl contending team has been off.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Okay, So that's a great point.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Both of you guys have been in situations where you've
been in high pressure situations where there were expectations, and
you've both been in situations where you know, so what
if you don't win a game?
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Like it's you know what.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
As the psychology of a player, what what makes it different?
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Like?
Speaker 7 (19:46):
What why is the pressure? Does it make you play different?
Does it put it in?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
The media always reacts to what they last saw in
the media, believe it, believe it or not, maybe with
a few well place words from higher ups.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
That's how they set their expectations. They do it in
the networks.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
If you look at the Dallas Cowboys times of appearance,
I mean, I know we're the star, but look at
the times of appearance of games. How many premier games
they have the league wasn't looking for an attendant for
less than less than ten wins. Our media left out
of training camp no less than ten wins.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
So when it's by.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
The way you play, and then who skits to set
the table that nine time I ten, that's the media
and the league. That's how it gets set. And those
are the expectations that fans will feed off of. On
top of we are the star. We expect that in
less than the super Bowl. Well all thirty two teams
expect and then the super Bowl. But we have a
(20:51):
premier way of promoting that and keeping it alive.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
But how does that affect you psychological?
Speaker 5 (20:57):
How does that let you play more care free and
lose if there's not expectations, I guess.
Speaker 15 (21:02):
You know it's it's it's like you go to the casino.
If you go to the casino when you're playing with
house money, your more your willingness to throw chips on
the table to you know, throw a little bit more
on the yo to you know what I'm saying, to
play black.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I don't normally do this, but I got a couple
of extra.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
A couple of chips.
Speaker 15 (21:19):
You know, I'm up, I'm up, so boom you know,
and that way is just a level of kid free.
Now you going to that casino and you got three
hundred dollars ago, and you know what I'm saying, and
like listen, this the rent money.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 15 (21:31):
So now you're playing that blackjack hand a little bit
different because the expectation is I have to win, and
if I don't win, there is there are some serious
consequences that come with that. And you know, once those
consequences kind of fell off the Cowboys after we got
to a point of losing Dake Prescott and it was
a I mean it was a it was a far
far road ahead if you're making the playoffs, even though
(21:54):
you weren't mathematically eliminated until last Sunday afternoon, the expectations
were off. And now guys can go out there and
just just play, like, no matter what happens, good batter,
it can't get you worse, you know what I mean,
Like we we've already seen us at our absolute worst,
So now we've got to go out there and just
play with no stress, no no no real uh no
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pented up nothing. We just we got house money. Now
it's it's not the good end of it. But you
see guys playing a lot more freeer. You see, you know,
Cooper Rush was making even in the Carolina game, he
was throwing some passes that, you know, two or three
touchdown he threw a Carolina game should have been picked off,
like legitimately should have been picked off. But he's just like, okay,
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down there somewhere, you.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Know what I mean, you don't you just go play,
Just go play.
Speaker 13 (22:45):
What's the worst, because it can happen.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
There's no pressure for you know, so many guys are
playing for the next year's contract and that kind of
they're just playing hard.
Speaker 13 (22:52):
But I'm just gonna play really hard and and where
the chips.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
The chips will fall where they fall. And usually.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
I guess if you could get out of that mind game,
right and you play if you're if you're a good athlete,
you're a good a good or above average professional football player.
If you just play hard, play with intensity, and play
with instincts, most of the time, you're going to perform
pretty well.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Pretty well.
Speaker 15 (23:18):
And then there's always the there's always there's always the
aspect of it is it's like, you know, you know,
even if I grade out seventy five percent I do.
I got some guys on my team who will be
in the forties and fifties, So the pressure really ain't
gonna be on me, you know what I mean, Like
the brush that ain't really gonna be on me at
that at that point in time.
Speaker 13 (23:38):
But you know, it's a lot of guys who are
just playing carefree.
Speaker 12 (23:44):
Man.
Speaker 15 (23:44):
There's just last couple of games, we're gonna be the spoiler.
We're gonna just go out here and just throw caution
to the win and see what happens.
Speaker 12 (23:51):
You know.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
The amazing thing about it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Is, its simply put for me, is some guys got
it and they just need to be able to play
to show it. Some guys don't care how hard they play,
Like your boy.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
It's just left tackle. No matter how hard he plays.
Speaker 13 (24:12):
Keep giving them more reps.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
Yeah, but I'm not about that.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I'm not you know, you know me just you know
we we we had two players now, your boy making
a comeback, Number one making a comeback.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
My boy ain't making a comeback. My boy, he made
he made a play.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
To what I'm saying, he making one or two players
a game. My boy coming in on every third series
now and whiffing blocks.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Yeah, like rotating him in or yees.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Yeah, because I want to win. I want to win.
I like winning more than I do a draft. I
really do. It's it's the season's fun again.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
Yally when you're especially when you're playing a beat up
Philadelphia team, you can spoil.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
You can spoilt.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
And how about how about Micah's comments about Philly?
Speaker 8 (25:07):
Oh yeah, you're read that, Yes, I missed.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
He basically said, F Philly.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Their face I'm paraphrasing, but basically I can't stand them
and their fans are the worst. Is basically what he said.
And he said F Philly. And I'm like, what happens
if you pull a Saquon and you they won't forget that.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
They get pretty quick if he's probably, but but this
is what I believe.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
See you with I'm with you all the way, Number eleven,
line up on the other side the right, and you
will prospers.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Knock out up against Lane.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Right. Yeah, hold on, bro, you ain't got one second
eight game?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Come on, do you have a court?
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Yeah? Pretty much what you said? Uh not at this point,
it's f Philly now, even if he get eliminated, like
I got to crush Philly f them. I hate them
now seeing them talk so much on social media.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Social media.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I thought it was the fans, but social media.
Speaker 13 (26:12):
But yeah, if you can spoil that he had that
he had that little spout this earlier this year with C. J.
Speaker 15 (26:17):
Gardner Johnson, remember where where he was like, I don't
even know, like he plays like he went that.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Route the bride.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
You know what, man, I.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Hate that. I used to hate that.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Uh you know who knows you? Thank you for all
the players back in my day for allowing me to
make a name on you.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
I would not know.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I used to be that guy who knows Nate, Nate
who you're talking about, the fact guy out they want
to cut every year.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
I mean I used to be get getting grilled. And
then all of a sudden change, I.
Speaker 15 (26:52):
Told John Muster and I lined up against we were
playing Washington and uh D'Angelo Hall. And it's funny. He
and I did a camp two years ago and Tennis.
He small small city in Tennessee, and I lined up
against the Angelo Hall and he was up in press
and I kind of I guess he kind of like
walked up on me and pressed and he looked at me.
(27:12):
He kind of did one of those like you know,
a dog black. Yeah, he looked at me, he said,
and he just started backing up and he said.
Speaker 13 (27:22):
It's a run, he said.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
He said, it's a run.
Speaker 13 (27:28):
They ain't passing this sorry brother, the ball.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
Swear to guy.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
And I was like, damn, how do you know?
Speaker 8 (27:35):
It was a run. But it ended up not being
a run.
Speaker 15 (27:38):
And I ran the seventeen yard out route and cot
Ford first down ran onto the solid the other side,
and I was like, I got this side. I was like, damno, zeros.
He was like he like he looked at me and
he kind of cocked his head to the side, like sixteen.
I can't see him on the sky report.
Speaker 13 (28:01):
It's a run.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
It's a run. They ain't passing the ball, and it's sorry.
But and I brought it up in the watch call.
He was like, I'm sorry, man, he said, Man, you
know how it is. He's like, man, when you want
to heat the competition, man, you will say anything.
Speaker 11 (28:17):
Need one.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
He used to talk to you. Yeah, that's all. But
you know I didn't have that luxury. You know, did
you ever talk no us?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I never had that luxury because every guy face was
better than I'm like, man, I ain't gonna.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Find it, I ain't gonna get it around.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
I'm doing everything I can to hold on to this dude.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Did you did you ever talk anybody get under your skin?
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Or you don't seem like much of a talker, and
you just seem like after you put him in the ground,
you might say something, but like, let's talk.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Went after did your job? Yeah, you were the curt
of special teams.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I'm saying, you guys talk so much, it's surprised.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
The only get after you is that you you you.
You hit Troy late. A clean sack is a clean sack.
Never got mad about that because that was my fault.
But to hit him late, or to just jump on
the pile on top of him, it just just because
you want to, you know, you think you know did something?
Speaker 8 (29:14):
I want having that. Did y'all ever have any good brawls? Yeah?
We had one. We lost it. It was against Phillip
when we gave it him leftl sack.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
We tried to fight, and I know that if you're
getting beat physically doing your job, trying to fight.
Speaker 15 (29:33):
I never understood that like that, not just like that situation,
but like a lot of times you're like, like you
want to fight now?
Speaker 13 (29:40):
Like what where was this aggression with?
Speaker 15 (29:42):
Like but the whistles between the yeah, like you know,
you look at a couple of weeks ago when they
had all the robbery weeks the end of the season,
bowl game, but the end of the college games.
Speaker 13 (29:52):
Right, everybody want to fight And I'm like, no, you
have four quarters to get this aggression?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now?
Speaker 13 (29:56):
You super mad because they playing a flag you should
they were going to do.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
That for was it right?
Speaker 13 (30:00):
What was that energy at then?
Speaker 15 (30:02):
I'm like Carolina did it and Michigan did it, and
I was just like, why wait, you wasn't you weren't
this bad while the game was actually going on. You
you you were willing to get charges and sprayed with
mace after the game over a flag planing when you
had an opportunity to paul drive him for four quarters.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Man, I ain't have like I'll see you hear me
say this forever. I didn't have but so many plays
per game, I did not want to reach that. And
you're talking us about when they said overtime, you're talking
about the brother we hurt.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
We mean that we couldn't win this.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Regulations, there was a link I sent y'all a few
weeks ago. I'd never seen this video before, but it
was Cowboys and the Giants.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
James Washington, James Washington, they were like going at it.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
It started.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
It looks like it started with Michael and they're in
the end of the end zone or somewhere in like,
the teams are around and there's a lot of people
on the field and they're going out and James Washington
takes a try a four foot tripod from a cameraman
with a camera is still attached to the end of it,
leaning back like he's gonna swing on somebody. I'm like, man,
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Speaker 5 (33:39):
Welcome back to the last segment Hanging with the Boys,
brought to each and every show by jig Zickson, the
official dating partner Cowboys. Yeah hung up there, So tell
me a little bit about this the surgery on Diggs Kurt?
What's the latest?
Speaker 6 (33:57):
It sounds bad I don't know how.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
I don't know a little.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yeah, well they described it. It's like Chris, what up
with the bone? And it's something like filling a pothole.
I guess they take bone or something from some area
and they patch it up. It's supposed to make it stronger.
Speaker 17 (34:11):
I don't say, you better say you better preface that
with I'm not a doctor, because if Britt get a test,
when did you get your certification?
Speaker 12 (34:21):
Current?
Speaker 9 (34:22):
Now?
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Just what I read in the Dallas Morning News. Sorry Brett,
but it's the same knee. They're supposed to be kind
of two different things, but it's the same knee. That
makes you wonder.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
You know, it's just going to be a long term deal.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
M M.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
I don't know. It's kind of scary for him.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
It's scary so to have the A c L and
the bone graph and the same knee.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
I won't be back to the start of the season
next year. Miss training camp next August.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
I don't think we've yet.
Speaker 15 (34:50):
I don't think we've yet, and I could be wrong,
but have we have we had anybody that kind of
finished ahead of schedule, like anytime we have a timeline.
This never I don't I can't remember. I could be wrong,
but everyone's like, oh yeah, they'll be back this date.
Next thing you look up that date. Cousins like, oh well,
I'm not quite ready just yet.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Still the only one still still was the only one.
Speaker 13 (35:12):
He should have probably took his time.
Speaker 8 (35:16):
He probably should have took his time.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Were saying, what six eight weeks on Lawrence, and he's
of course foot problems can be.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
Lawrence's looking at sels too, He's like, need to come
back and this double hill.
Speaker 15 (35:33):
Yeah, so when I get out here in this, in this,
in these three agent streets, I'm healthy.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
I'm fully healthy.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Y'all brought up a good I guess a good thing
to think about.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
You brought up the left tackle, or you brought up
the left tackle, your boy, and then you brought up
the wide receiver number one. So you've got positions of
need now based off of development of players. Right, So
you got offensive line, you got wide receiver that nobody's
really stepped up. And you know Brandon Cooks, do you
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do you bring him back? Do you go look to
upgrade there?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Then you've got.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Running back Rico, right, you got a pretty solid running
back there, and then you address some of these and
then defensive line always is somewhere where you want to
get some depth, and then cornerback. But let's just say
for the draft, wide receiver, running back, defensive line, and
offensive line, how would you rank those needs.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
As far as like one, two, three, and four said again.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Offensive line, defensive line, running back, and wide receive your
number two wide receiver.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Off line, defensive line, receiver, running back.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
For me, that's what I would say.
Speaker 15 (36:55):
If you can't protect the guy that you're paying sixty
million dollars to, what are you doing?
Speaker 8 (36:58):
You're screwed. Yeah, I mean that it starts there. It
starts with the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
So what we always have up front Onah.
Speaker 13 (37:06):
Like I said, for this team and not just his team,
many many teams.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
If you know that is what he is, Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
He's he is.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
He's what he is, like it or not. You signed him.
You got what he is, right, right?
Speaker 15 (37:19):
He's not he's not. He's not Lamar Jackson, he's not
Josh Allen, he's not Patrick Mahomes and the level of mobility.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
He is what he is.
Speaker 15 (37:28):
And now your job is to say, we know what
he is, let's give him a level of protection so
that whatever he is he can be the very best
of that possible. Because if he's starting to ask him
and clearly we we we have to stop. We have
to stop saying run and can't, can't like this is
(37:49):
this so now you need what you need to do
is you need to find a way how we're going
to be able to protect him so that he could
be the pocket passer that he needs to be, so
he could be comfortable in the pocket, so that he
can deliver the ball in the middle field, because that's
his throat. His throws, not to the outside. Not that
he can't make those throws, but those aren't his throws.
That's not where he where he he dominates at. He
dominates when he's able to throw the ball in between
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the hashes. So let's keep him up right, let's give
him time, and let's protect that. That's the line one,
then line two is all right, cool, we just scored
a touchdown. How do we prevent the other team now
running it back down our throats? And I'm talking about
the teams that are equal to or better than you,
that's right. How do we how do we give ourselves
a distinct advantage up front? Because if you're going to
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allow if you're going to have young linebackers that you
think that can thrive, and again, you do not forget
this everything that that marriage Lui Foule is this year.
He's gonna have to be better next year because now
there's film on them. You're no longer you're no longer
sneaking up on anybody. You're now a part of the
game plan. You're now a part of the offseason. Uh,
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defensive coordinators, when you look at you look at the schedule,
we know kind of who we play.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
We don't know when we play them.
Speaker 15 (39:02):
But those defensive coordinators, when they get into this thing,
they're gonna start saying, Okay, this is how we defeat
a guy like that.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
You know, I don't know who.
Speaker 15 (39:09):
I don't know when Da Mari and Overshoan will be back.
I don't know if Eric Kendrick cree back, whoever the
other linebackers will be right. You will now be prepared
for people are coming into the game now looking at
you and say, here's where his weaknesses are. So that's
gonna be a thing that you're gonna have to And
that's the part about the league. Every single year, how
can you develop your game to overcome. Now, being scouted,
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when you're a rookie, there isn't much tape on you.
I don't care what you did in college that shows
attribute to what you do. But when you get into
the system and how the system uses you, now coaches
go and say, oh, okay, so he's used this way
under this coach and this defense. This is how we
defeat that. Well, if this is a way that we'll
try to use to defeat that, so that has.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
To be to me.
Speaker 15 (39:56):
Line number two is being able to get some uh
some push up front and keep those other guys around
your clean.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Speaking of Louis Foley, he got the green dot with
Kendricks out, how if he didn't he did not get
the green dot.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
Visual got the green dot.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Oh, I thought I read it was Sorry, I thought
I read it.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
Was that was not Visuals.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Had it. But there's they can They can designate it
for three people. Really is lea foul, Vigil and.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
Clark, But most of the time it was it was,
So you can so you can switch it out between
those three during the game.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
Depends on who was in the depends who's in the games,
depends who was in the game.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
So you can only yeah.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
You can't just say, hey, I need five guys. You
can't do that. You gotta do three guys.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
And then if number one is not in they can switch,
they can swap helmets.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Is there more to it than just relaying a message?
Speaker 8 (40:58):
You have to line the guys up. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
That person that you the person that you designate that
not only has to line everybody up, but play at
a high level of his position. You know a lot
of times, you know, you want to get this guy
this responsibility, but he can't even line hisself up.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
So he's not only got to line up that front
line and his line.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Back responsibly and deal with the motions and checks and
when that mic go off, he still got to be
able to communicate and do his job.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
What is it fifteen seconds before the play that they
shut it off, so the play clock is down to fifteen.
Speaker 7 (41:35):
So it starts automatically shuts off for I think the
reason why they did with Leah Fowler is because vigils
out pretty much every.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
Week with a he has a foot and dry he's
been running through.
Speaker 11 (41:46):
So they want to get those you know, the person
who's calling it in his head during the week during practice.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
So I guess in some ways, I thought, maybe you know,
he's telling what the play is at that point, those
guys know where to go and line up. But I
guess there's shifts all that thing. Yeah, the checks it
for sure.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Yeah, m all right before we get out of here.
Speaker 8 (42:07):
You know, I laughed because you can tell you can
get people the original.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
You know, you can say four to three power to
the right, and uh, those little adjustments can be devastating
because they can either get you out leveraged as we
call it. If you if you got a tight end
that wasn't over there and shifts over and you a
defensive end and you need to get in the middle
of that tight end and that uh in between the
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middle of the tight end and tackle or get to
that outside because you have no safety help or no
corner help.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
You gotta know this.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
And sometimes us big uglies up front, we get comfortable,
you know, and then you gotta go out and you
see them strapping them on the button.
Speaker 8 (42:50):
Yeah you got it, you know.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Do they play games where do.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
You look at the clock and when he gets blow fifteen,
you know, the mic shut off and you change something
on the offense.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Where they have to make their own adjustment.
Speaker 8 (43:07):
Because the defense does that more than an offense. Like
the defense will try they'll know, Okay, I can see
the clock.
Speaker 15 (43:12):
So if we're if the secondary a lot of times,
if we're gonna if we're gonna spin our coverage, we're
gonna look like we're in a Cover two, but at
the snap of the ball or as close to as possible,
we're gonna then shift down to a Cover one to
throw you off because if you discided it too much
and it's too much common a clock, Now I adjust
so offensively.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
You kind of just try to make your check. Then
the defense makes their check.
Speaker 15 (43:35):
You gotta go with it, you know what I mean.
Like you come out there and you try to you
try to see, okay, what are they in? And that's
when you see guys go kill kill, kill kill, Because
now I've decided what they're in, I need to change
my play call. The defense is the one that tries
to hold on to the very end or you'll see
you'll see the cowboys they'll line up in that double
a gap situation and guys, uh, they'll try to sit
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in there as long as possible and try to confuse you.
Because linemen and make it counts. You know here, Roger, Roger,
you know Louis, Louis going. And now they try the
whole whole hole and then the last second.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
They back out of there. Via.
Speaker 13 (44:09):
Yeah, like they try to they try to confuse you,
They try to confuse.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
You a little bit.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Yeah, all right, fellas, what are you doing for? I
guess the holidays tonight and tomorrow since we won't be
here tomorrow. Anything special, playing, just spending time with family, anything.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
Crazy, games, watching the games, games football tomorrow, football and basketball.
Speaker 13 (44:30):
Right, got two good game football games tomorrow too.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Who's playing tomorrow?
Speaker 15 (44:34):
Thinks Chiefs Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Houston, Houston football.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
So we'll have good football on Thursday for once.
Speaker 8 (44:43):
Wednesday Wednesday Wednesday.
Speaker 13 (44:44):
Yeah, it's so weird the NFL.
Speaker 15 (44:47):
The NFL this year would have played on every single
day except Tuesday.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
That's wild. And you know what, eventually they're trying to
get there.
Speaker 13 (44:57):
They like remember Christmas used to be the NB Yeah
right way, yep, like.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
Nah, that was like Saturdays used to be only collegy.
College used to be high school. Lord, not only we're.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Gonna play on Christmas.
Speaker 8 (45:14):
We're gonna give you two games and they're gonna be
good games.
Speaker 15 (45:18):
Yeah, Like we're not giving you Jaguars coats. And people go,
you know what, I might go ahead and watch the
basketball game. They're like, nah, we're giving you prime time.
Patrick Mahomes, Omar Jackson, j.
Speaker 8 (45:29):
Stroud position in football.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
So I feel so.
Speaker 13 (45:33):
And the NBA is already struggling with viewership.
Speaker 8 (45:35):
That just makes it even more tough. Everybody shooting threes, yeah,
I mean one team shot fifty three. It was under
thirty percent.
Speaker 15 (45:44):
Speaking before we got here, I thought it was pretty dope.
Did you when you watch the who did Philly Philly
play Washington this week? And you saw Jayleen Carter and
this is you know, offensive lineman defensive lineman games and
Jayalen Carter's.
Speaker 8 (45:57):
Down in his stance. Uh, and he looks at the
guard and he says, he like he like and he
knew he knew that, like.
Speaker 13 (46:06):
You pull it.
Speaker 8 (46:07):
So now he's like, I gotta just just beat this
guy coming down to block me.
Speaker 7 (46:11):
And then he beats the guy, crawls the phone sad
conscious man.
Speaker 15 (46:16):
A lot of time you see some guys used to
You can always tell by the way your fingers were brown,
if your fingernails. Yeah, it started being like the you
know whatever that color is, and they're like, oh yeah,
you ain't really dug in you you like?
Speaker 13 (46:29):
And he called it out. He said, got the.
Speaker 8 (46:31):
Steads and he did.
Speaker 11 (46:33):
You see when he tried to catch the.
Speaker 15 (46:35):
That's the second time he's trying to try to do that.
He's gonna catch one. He's gonna catch one.
Speaker 8 (46:39):
He tries to catch the spike.
Speaker 15 (46:43):
He dives in the underneath the center, the center's legs
and tries to catch the balls and spike it at
the quarterbacks down.
Speaker 8 (46:51):
He said he saw some kid do it in high school,
like on YouTube video. Wonder if he wonder you practiced
last year?
Speaker 3 (46:58):
He did it?
Speaker 8 (46:59):
And then this, you fletch, He's close.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
He's close.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
That's your new guy. We'll go get tired of hearing
about him. If you could ever get number nine ninety
three is good too. But if you're ever getting number
ninety to join the party, how you gonna how are
you gonna deal with them?
Speaker 17 (47:18):
Be tough?
Speaker 8 (47:18):
Thank god that.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Everybody plays on a different level, because you had three
of those things up there.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
No show tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (47:26):
We will be back. I guess I'll be here tomorrow. Okay,
I'll tell you how to turn everything on. I say
I'll be here. I ain't. I'll be doing the show.
I'll be here. What are you doing trying to see
if anybody lost some money into the locker room?
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Free go go rummaging here for the lunch Thursday. I
guess we'll double dip on Thursday.
Speaker 8 (47:46):
Huh, Offense and defense be ready to Speaking of.
Speaker 13 (47:51):
Double dep you need you need, you mean you need
miss a delight again today, Yes.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Sir.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
Was up ten minutes later.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
It gets double pain.
Speaker 8 (48:05):
Hey, Merry Christmas, guys.
Speaker 15 (48:07):
Me Johnson said, everybody get treated the same, everybody get
treated fit.
Speaker 8 (48:10):
Chris, I know you, but you took the triple triple.
I used to do a triple. Yeah, he's done a
double dip today.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
I can't get three, Nash. You gotta mix it up
a little bit.
Speaker 8 (48:24):
I'm little be here Friday five you catch me girls
talk boys.
Speaker 11 (48:32):
Here's a dilemma. Here's a diloma. So I've got on Friday,
just behind the scenes. So uh, Bill and ever singer
are out on Friday. Some people were like, oh, well
they do it once, you guys told Jesse on there.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
I'm like, yeah, do that.
Speaker 8 (48:49):
Okay, Jesse, you want to do that, you know what
may be looking.
Speaker 13 (48:57):
You know, you know how I'll be waiting. I'll be
eighty for them.
Speaker 5 (49:03):
Good like what that would be good?
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Radio's great radio because he'll he'll go gets everything he say.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
Yeah, believe in.
Speaker 13 (49:18):
Right, Derek, like I already listen, I gave you grace
one time.
Speaker 8 (49:21):
I go double back on.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
Again, Jesse, Nate, Kurt, great seeing you guys.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
Have a wonder Chris, Christmas, Chris, thanks for keeping us
on the air and everything you do. Jazz, Happy birthday, Josh,
thanks for keeping them company.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
We will be back Thursday to talk Cowboys Eagles on
hanging with.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
The Boys Well.
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Speaker 5 (00:36):
What is today? Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (00:38):
Tuesday?
Speaker 7 (00:39):
Tuesday, Tuesday, kind of Friday, kind of Christmas Eve.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 8 (00:44):
Yes, it is Christmas Eve. Other stuff is kind it
is Christmas Eve.
Speaker 7 (00:48):
You are looking kind of live. It's very dark and
dismal and gloomy. It's crummy weather depending on how you
look at it. Because we needed the rain. I just
don't know if we needed this much rain. Would you
look at love Tostedo Championship Plausa outside Fort Center at
the Star Frisco, Texas, where it is thunderstorming sixty one degrees.
The highest sixty three, the low is fifty four.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
That's Shannon you just heard here is Nate. Chris is
in the background. I am Kurt.
Speaker 8 (01:17):
Jesse's on his way so in his.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Place for now. It's our good friend Jazz.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Guys Hi jazz.
Speaker 8 (01:25):
How we're good.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Good to see today? Yeah, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 8 (01:28):
You got to finish, finish.
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Speaker 8 (02:09):
Still and again I n t interception.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
There you go. So it is Kurt? Is it your
birthday today?
Speaker 9 (02:16):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:16):
It is not, Nate.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Is it your birthday? Not today, Chris, Mine's in January.
It's not mine.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
Mine's in November.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Jess, is it your birthday today?
Speaker 10 (02:24):
Pas?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Today?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Birthday?
Speaker 11 (02:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (02:29):
I didn't know you were a Christmas Eve baby.
Speaker 12 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (02:31):
I was supposed to be born on the twenty seventh,
so I.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
Came through the wow wow wow, So tell us how
did that happen?
Speaker 9 (02:42):
The birds beat day?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
How old are you today or you're okay telling that
out loud?
Speaker 9 (02:48):
Yeah, I'm twenty five.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
That's in grade to be twenty five again strong how.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
You feel about it.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
It's a quarter of a century, halfway to fifty. Okay
with it?
Speaker 9 (02:58):
Gosh, I feel old now.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
Yeah, you beat one hundred.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
So for those of you that don't know, Jazz is
in the back, uh, she produced it.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Tell everybody what you do in the back.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Produced?
Speaker 9 (03:11):
Girls talk, boys talk. Whenever Chris is out, I'll help
out with all the other shows.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
You know what you do over there for us on
the weekends when in the back, in the back, I
mean like everything in the behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
What was your job basically?
Speaker 9 (03:26):
So the title is production assistant, but like like an
hour ago, we just came from locker room, so we
have to shoot stuff. I worked the audio board, in
the control room, camera operating, jib, edit.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
Still, edit, still, So you do a.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Lot, produce, edit, shoot whatever they ask you to do.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Right, just a rock star and you report to who
do you report to?
Speaker 8 (03:51):
Several people? Rocks and Scott. I'm so sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And you've been around for a.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
While yet.
Speaker 9 (04:01):
I got here twenty twenty one, Okay, So I'm like
one of the ones that started that year that are
still here.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Yeah, because they ran everybody else off because they're hard
people to deal with.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
What happened to Tony. You don't have to know what
happened to Tony. I don't talk to Tony.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Oh real quick, talk about that off the air, all right.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Do you know the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 12 (04:23):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (04:24):
My goodness, yes, currently, yes, currently, Currently it's Cooper Rush.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Okay, who was it before him?
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Dak Prescott? Okay.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I was told as a backstory to that.
Speaker 9 (04:35):
It is a backstory there is in my In my
interview in June with Scott, he asked me if I
need the players and I was like, he was like,
do you know who the quarterback is? I was like,
I'm gonna be honest, I'm all, I'm all for the
camera opera. I was like, but he's not here the players.
Speaker 13 (04:55):
I was like, I'm.
Speaker 9 (04:56):
Here to just, you know, do my job. And I
was like, if I need to learn the players, I
can learn them. So I mean, that's me practice squad guys,
and I can give it to him.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
There you go. You know what, Sometimes those those are
the best hires because a lot of times you get
a lot of you know, fan you know fan people
in here and stuff like that. You're applying for this
job for the technical side and all that.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Sometimes that's a good thing. So but you learned it
and that's good.
Speaker 12 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
I mean you probably give her a random number.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Now she probably knows the number the person's name.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
So I'm assuming after that interview, Scott was like, you
should probably go ahead and learn.
Speaker 9 (05:29):
You know, when I went home after an interview, I
was like, man, I'm getting blew it. I was like, man,
I'm not going to job. And then that's when I
got like the email from HR and I call it Scott.
I was like, does that mean I got the job?
Speaker 8 (05:43):
And he was like yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
So you're like, okay, I'll learn.
Speaker 9 (05:46):
The funny things. Chris told Scott.
Speaker 14 (05:49):
Now, oh, not that you're bitter, not because because when
she got hired, Okay, her job originally he was going
to be she was to log footage.
Speaker 11 (06:03):
Of ours of NFL films and around the league of
different places.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
And if you don't know who the quarterback of.
Speaker 11 (06:10):
The Cowboys is, it'd be really hard to start logging footage.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
He always starts with that.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
You didn't want somebody screwing up your database.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
I got here during training camp, so Rocks and Chris
were going, but it was like Scott and now they're
like my favorite people.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Oh yeah, well good.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
And so you've been here three years? Huh.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
I would let her watch my kids.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Yeah, my baby sister, baby sized kids for like months.
Speaker 8 (06:33):
Oh yeah, well awesome.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Well happy birthday. Thanks for jumping on with us. While
we wait for Jesse. Appreciate you stopping by.
Speaker 9 (06:41):
Hope he shows up.
Speaker 11 (06:43):
Yeah, he says, five minutes late, but eight minutes late,
so he's on Jesse time.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
We know, we all know how that works. So all right,
thanks Jack, Happy holidays.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Straight by the way, Jack really blocks blue and blue
and green and.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
All tip depending on the week. And she decided how
long did you go?
Speaker 8 (07:06):
And you cut it off two weeks ago?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Oh nice, very good. You're growing them back? No, no,
do it? Do it? See you Jazz? All right, nice
little way to start the show.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
What do you guys have planning today? After the show's kind.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Of a weird day day, A lot of people aren't here.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yep, very quiet.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Family stuff? You got both of you have family stuff tonight?
Or do you do all your family stuff.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Tomorrow we'll have dinner and we just got presents to
getting wrap and all that kind of stuff, so.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
We'll have last minute.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
You had stuff to do, and you know.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
What do you do, Nate?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Do you do you buy gifts? Does the wife buy? Yeah?
You just.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
No, my wife she she she you know baby, what
you need what you want to do is She'll tell me.
I said, now that you want me to go ahead
and buy you a gi do you want me to
apply to what you want to do? And she said,
apply to what I want what I want to do,
And that's how I do it now. My grandkids, Yeah,
they getting gifts.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
My kids.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I give them minimum stuff, you know, because they're my
my youngest boys about twenty six. So them days over with,
I'm going I'm doing more for the grandkids and I
and one of them has a scholarship fund, and I'm
praying the other one here soon to get one for
his baby, because when they're up until they at nine
(08:32):
ten years old, I want to be able to put
into that college fund and that right there will pay
dividends in the future. Whereas the game they learning right
now that Nintendo or whatever y'all, I don't know what
the games are. That's that's gonna go away. But the
other thing can help them with cool showed it up
(08:52):
to put into that college fund and that right there
will pay.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, we just we were here on time. We heard
we heard that in live heard that.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Yeah, I also heard. I also heard you got what
you said?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
What what you say?
Speaker 8 (09:05):
He old Jesse, Tom, He just you are just you know,
Jesse defends.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
I've been running the roads all morning, and they are
people forget how to drive in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I don't know if it's like that everywhere else.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
It's just rain out of just hot way to apologizing
quick as and fast.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
Wait, yeah, birthday.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
He acts like it was our fat he was late
now right, See that's how it works.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah that works.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Yeah, that's just Hey, that's that's the politician. Uh, in
the family of Jesse, he's late. Yeah, you're late, and
then you make us feel bad for saying that.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You did sooo well, you know what the traffic is,
So it is, I mean it is.
Speaker 15 (09:48):
I was out with someone else. Can go ahead and
just live it up for you, so you have. But no,
the traffic was crazy.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah, people spun out everywhere, and I.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Saw two major ricks was. All you can do is
pray for him, man, and just pray that they wasn't
doing anything way out of line to get this out
in trouble.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I wonder if it's like that everywhere else, in all
major cities, or it is Dallas that people, oh, it's raining.
Speaker 15 (10:15):
Texas State, Yeah, because I mean up nor if we
drive snow, rain and everything.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
If it snows or sleeps here, gave us stay home.
How many cars did you pass?
Speaker 15 (10:27):
Their flashers were on, the entire lit up the entire
to I hate that the entire.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
Higher tolls. It's like, dude, it's rain, and when when when.
Speaker 11 (10:38):
The flashers are on, it's it's it's missing out.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
When the proper authorities give you a sign two miles
back to get over, and you continue to ride in
the lane they asks you to get out of, and
then a mile before when the line is long, then
you try to force in on the other person, and
who was smart enough to get over? Now we have
another rant a mile back. Now, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
There's always a spot.
Speaker 13 (11:10):
I this is just me dependent on what.
Speaker 15 (11:14):
Right, depending on what time time I'm in, is how
cautious I drive When I'm up north. When I'm up
in this area, I know everybody got full insurance up here.
Speaker 13 (11:31):
I know, I know I cut people, man.
Speaker 8 (11:37):
I know folks on this side.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Of the toe way like TMS out there.
Speaker 15 (11:41):
Yeah, listen, I know everybody up here. We're gonna get out.
They're gonna have good insurance. They're not gonna give you
that fake stuff. They want the police officer to come.
We're gonna write this thing out, so I don't really
be too worried about people hitting me up this. So what.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Road did you say? I gotta be calf once I
get past Northwest Highway.
Speaker 15 (12:04):
Once I get pasted Highway South Highway passing Northwest Highway
to the south.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I was gonna say, no way six thirty five. But
you're probably safe there until.
Speaker 15 (12:14):
No because Northwest Highway you still that still Holland Park area, right,
because if you get off of one of them exits,
that's clear SMU.
Speaker 13 (12:21):
Once I get past the Northwest Highway exit.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I thought you're gonna say, like downtown or something.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Don't go downtown too far? You know that's plus you
done went too far?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
You know what that's called situational a where yes, yes,
when I get past the Northwest Highway going south hands
ten and two.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
I'm checking the mirrors.
Speaker 15 (12:40):
I'm making sure because because you get down that closed
somebody hit you.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
They might just leave you there. It might just lead
you there, and then.
Speaker 15 (12:47):
Then you might be facing the situation where they ain't
got no insurance at all. They give you a shirt
faking shures card as you as you keep going in.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
So once I.
Speaker 13 (12:56):
Get north of Northwest Highway.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Exit, take more more chances.
Speaker 13 (13:01):
You know, always a spot.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
And you know what you brang out? What the camera.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Documented? Yeah, all right, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
We know traffic was bad and we basically just killed
our first segment, so.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
We'll take a break. When we come back, we'll talk
a little bit of football. I like your outfit, by
the way.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
Thank you. He's been two days in a row now. Yeah,
what does it say?
Speaker 15 (13:24):
It's a naughty nice whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I like.
Speaker 8 (13:29):
It looks very good. Like how you pelvic thrusted there.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
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Speaker 5 (16:54):
Kill the last segment of the show.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Twenty twenty, coach McCarthy and the Cowboys finished six and ten,
but they won three of their last four, and McCarthy
has said that he felt that springboard of them into
the twenty twenty one season, where they finished twelve and five.
Do you think the same thing is happening now they're
finishing strong?
Speaker 8 (17:18):
I'm sorry, Well that carry over?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Look, Look, I think there's something to that. I don't
know how much of that carries over when you have
this many guys that may not be here next year.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
They like to preach that, but I don't know if it's.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Yeah, it is that lip service. I know we know
how you feel about that. You don't think it carries over,
but it's good to end the season on a if
you could win what two of these next one of these,
next two?
Speaker 8 (17:47):
What if you win both of them?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
If you win both of them, finish nine and eight?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
If you win both of them at nine and you
finished nine and eight with with this team?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
And what's happened?
Speaker 7 (18:01):
And like, you know, Jordan Lewis said that the last
few weeks, this is the football team we knew we
could be.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
What does that mean? Why haven't you been that? Is
it the injuries?
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Is it was?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Did it take you this long to figure it out?
Speaker 9 (18:16):
Is?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
If why just now?
Speaker 7 (18:20):
If that's who you knew you could be because you
didn't add any players. In fact, you you know, you
lost a couple, you lost it overshown and you know
you got Michael back.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
You tank still not is he gonna? He's not?
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Is he gonna?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Is there any word on him?
Speaker 8 (18:35):
Yeah? And then Digs is you know Diggs will get
to him.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
In a minute having bone graph surgery.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
So but why why is that just something you? Is
that just players speak? I knew, we knew that we
could be this team? Well, okay, what happened?
Speaker 15 (18:56):
It's a great question, and I don't know if I
have an answer for it, but there is something to
be said when you when you play a care free
level of a football, when there is no expectations, when
there is no no one's looking for you to make
some sort of playoff serves or the the the expectation
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of you being this super Bowl contending team has been off.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Okay, So that's a great point.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Both of you guys have been in situations where you've
been in high pressure situations where there were expectations, and
you've both been in situations where you know, so what
if you don't win a game?
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Like it's you know what.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
As the psychology of a player, what what makes it different?
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Like?
Speaker 7 (19:46):
What why is the pressure? Does it make you play different?
Does it put it in?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
The media always reacts to what they last saw in
the media, believe it, believe it or not, maybe with
a few well place words from higher ups.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
That's how they set their expectations. They do it in
the networks.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
If you look at the Dallas Cowboys times of appearance,
I mean, I know we're the star, but look at
the times of appearance of games. How many premier games
they have the league wasn't looking for an attendant for
less than less than ten wins. Our media left out
of training camp no less than ten wins.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
So when it's by.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
The way you play, and then who skits to set
the table that nine time I ten, that's the media
and the league. That's how it gets set. And those
are the expectations that fans will feed off of. On
top of we are the star. We expect that in
less than the super Bowl. Well all thirty two teams
expect and then the super Bowl. But we have a
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premier way of promoting that and keeping it alive.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
But how does that affect you psychological?
Speaker 5 (20:57):
How does that let you play more care free and
lose if there's not expectations, I guess.
Speaker 15 (21:02):
You know it's it's it's like you go to the casino.
If you go to the casino when you're playing with
house money, your more your willingness to throw chips on
the table to you know, throw a little bit more
on the yo to you know what I'm saying, to
play black.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I don't normally do this, but I got a couple
of extra.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
A couple of chips.
Speaker 15 (21:19):
You know, I'm up, I'm up, so boom you know,
and that way is just a level of kid free.
Now you going to that casino and you got three
hundred dollars ago, and you know what I'm saying, and
like listen, this the rent money.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 15 (21:31):
So now you're playing that blackjack hand a little bit
different because the expectation is I have to win, and
if I don't win, there is there are some serious
consequences that come with that. And you know, once those
consequences kind of fell off the Cowboys after we got
to a point of losing Dake Prescott and it was
a I mean it was a it was a far
far road ahead if you're making the playoffs, even though
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you weren't mathematically eliminated until last Sunday afternoon, the expectations
were off. And now guys can go out there and
just just play, like, no matter what happens, good batter,
it can't get you worse, you know what I mean,
Like we we've already seen us at our absolute worst,
So now we've got to go out there and just
play with no stress, no no no real uh no
(22:17):
pented up nothing. We just we got house money. Now
it's it's not the good end of it. But you
see guys playing a lot more freeer. You see, you know,
Cooper Rush was making even in the Carolina game, he
was throwing some passes that, you know, two or three
touchdown he threw a Carolina game should have been picked off,
like legitimately should have been picked off. But he's just like, okay,
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down there somewhere, you.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Know what I mean, you don't you just go play,
Just go play.
Speaker 13 (22:45):
What's the worst, because it can happen.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
There's no pressure for you know, so many guys are
playing for the next year's contract and that kind of
they're just playing hard.
Speaker 13 (22:52):
But I'm just gonna play really hard and and where
the chips.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
The chips will fall where they fall. And usually.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
I guess if you could get out of that mind game,
right and you play if you're if you're a good athlete,
you're a good a good or above average professional football player.
If you just play hard, play with intensity, and play
with instincts, most of the time, you're going to perform
pretty well.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Pretty well.
Speaker 15 (23:18):
And then there's always the there's always there's always the
aspect of it is it's like, you know, you know,
even if I grade out seventy five percent I do.
I got some guys on my team who will be
in the forties and fifties, So the pressure really ain't
gonna be on me, you know what I mean, Like
the brush that ain't really gonna be on me at
that at that point in time.
Speaker 13 (23:38):
But you know, it's a lot of guys who are
just playing carefree.
Speaker 12 (23:44):
Man.
Speaker 15 (23:44):
There's just last couple of games, we're gonna be the spoiler.
We're gonna just go out here and just throw caution
to the win and see what happens.
Speaker 12 (23:51):
You know.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
The amazing thing about it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Is, its simply put for me, is some guys got
it and they just need to be able to play
to show it. Some guys don't care how hard they play,
Like your boy.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
It's just left tackle. No matter how hard he plays.
Speaker 13 (24:12):
Keep giving them more reps.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
Yeah, but I'm not about that.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I'm not you know, you know me just you know
we we we had two players now, your boy making
a comeback, Number one making a comeback.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
My boy ain't making a comeback. My boy, he made
he made a play.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
To what I'm saying, he making one or two players
a game. My boy coming in on every third series
now and whiffing blocks.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Yeah, like rotating him in or yees.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Yeah, because I want to win. I want to win.
I like winning more than I do a draft. I
really do. It's it's the season's fun again.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
Yally when you're especially when you're playing a beat up
Philadelphia team, you can spoil.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
You can spoilt.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
And how about how about Micah's comments about Philly?
Speaker 8 (25:07):
Oh yeah, you're read that, Yes, I missed.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
He basically said, F Philly.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Their face I'm paraphrasing, but basically I can't stand them
and their fans are the worst. Is basically what he said.
And he said F Philly. And I'm like, what happens
if you pull a Saquon and you they won't forget that.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
They get pretty quick if he's probably, but but this
is what I believe.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
See you with I'm with you all the way, Number eleven,
line up on the other side the right, and you
will prospers.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Knock out up against Lane.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Right. Yeah, hold on, bro, you ain't got one second
eight game?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Come on, do you have a court?
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Yeah? Pretty much what you said? Uh not at this point,
it's f Philly now, even if he get eliminated, like
I got to crush Philly f them. I hate them
now seeing them talk so much on social media.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Social media.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I thought it was the fans, but social media.
Speaker 13 (26:12):
But yeah, if you can spoil that he had that
he had that little spout this earlier this year with C. J.
Speaker 15 (26:17):
Gardner Johnson, remember where where he was like, I don't
even know, like he plays like he went that.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Route the bride.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
You know what, man, I.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Hate that. I used to hate that.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Uh you know who knows you? Thank you for all
the players back in my day for allowing me to
make a name on you.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
I would not know.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I used to be that guy who knows Nate, Nate
who you're talking about, the fact guy out they want
to cut every year.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
I mean I used to be get getting grilled. And
then all of a sudden change, I.
Speaker 15 (26:52):
Told John Muster and I lined up against we were
playing Washington and uh D'Angelo Hall. And it's funny. He
and I did a camp two years ago and Tennis.
He small small city in Tennessee, and I lined up
against the Angelo Hall and he was up in press
and I kind of I guess he kind of like
walked up on me and pressed and he looked at me.
(27:12):
He kind of did one of those like you know,
a dog black. Yeah, he looked at me, he said,
and he just started backing up and he said.
Speaker 13 (27:22):
It's a run, he said.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
He said, it's a run.
Speaker 13 (27:28):
They ain't passing this sorry brother, the ball.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
Swear to guy.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
And I was like, damn, how do you know?
Speaker 8 (27:35):
It was a run. But it ended up not being
a run.
Speaker 15 (27:38):
And I ran the seventeen yard out route and cot
Ford first down ran onto the solid the other side,
and I was like, I got this side. I was like, damno, zeros.
He was like he like he looked at me and
he kind of cocked his head to the side, like sixteen.
I can't see him on the sky report.
Speaker 13 (28:01):
It's a run.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
It's a run. They ain't passing the ball, and it's sorry.
But and I brought it up in the watch call.
He was like, I'm sorry, man, he said, Man, you
know how it is. He's like, man, when you want
to heat the competition, man, you will say anything.
Speaker 11 (28:17):
Need one.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
He used to talk to you. Yeah, that's all. But
you know I didn't have that luxury. You know, did
you ever talk no us?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I never had that luxury because every guy face was
better than I'm like, man, I ain't gonna.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Find it, I ain't gonna get it around.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
I'm doing everything I can to hold on to this dude.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Did you did you ever talk anybody get under your skin?
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Or you don't seem like much of a talker, and
you just seem like after you put him in the ground,
you might say something, but like, let's talk.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Went after did your job? Yeah, you were the curt
of special teams.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I'm saying, you guys talk so much, it's surprised.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
The only get after you is that you you you.
You hit Troy late. A clean sack is a clean sack.
Never got mad about that because that was my fault.
But to hit him late, or to just jump on
the pile on top of him, it just just because
you want to, you know, you think you know did something?
Speaker 8 (29:14):
I want having that. Did y'all ever have any good brawls? Yeah?
We had one. We lost it. It was against Phillip
when we gave it him leftl sack.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
We tried to fight, and I know that if you're
getting beat physically doing your job, trying to fight.
Speaker 15 (29:33):
I never understood that like that, not just like that situation,
but like a lot of times you're like, like you
want to fight now?
Speaker 13 (29:40):
Like what where was this aggression with?
Speaker 15 (29:42):
Like but the whistles between the yeah, like you know,
you look at a couple of weeks ago when they
had all the robbery weeks the end of the season,
bowl game, but the end of the college games.
Speaker 13 (29:52):
Right, everybody want to fight And I'm like, no, you
have four quarters to get this aggression?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now?
Speaker 13 (29:56):
You super mad because they playing a flag you should
they were going to do.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
That for was it right?
Speaker 13 (30:00):
What was that energy at then?
Speaker 15 (30:02):
I'm like Carolina did it and Michigan did it, and
I was just like, why wait, you wasn't you weren't
this bad while the game was actually going on. You
you you were willing to get charges and sprayed with
mace after the game over a flag planing when you
had an opportunity to paul drive him for four quarters.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Man, I ain't have like I'll see you hear me
say this forever. I didn't have but so many plays
per game, I did not want to reach that. And
you're talking us about when they said overtime, you're talking
about the brother we hurt.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
We mean that we couldn't win this.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
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weeks ago. I'd never seen this video before, but it
was Cowboys and the Giants.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
James Washington, James Washington, they were like going at it.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
It started.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
It looks like it started with Michael and they're in
the end of the end zone or somewhere in like,
the teams are around and there's a lot of people
on the field and they're going out and James Washington
takes a try a four foot tripod from a cameraman
with a camera is still attached to the end of it,
leaning back like he's gonna swing on somebody. I'm like, man,
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Welcome back to the last segment Hanging with the Boys,
brought to each and every show by jig Zickson, the
official dating partner Cowboys. Yeah hung up there, So tell
me a little bit about this the surgery on Diggs Kurt?
What's the latest?
Speaker 6 (33:57):
It sounds bad I don't know how.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
I don't know a little.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yeah, well they described it. It's like Chris, what up
with the bone? And it's something like filling a pothole.
I guess they take bone or something from some area
and they patch it up. It's supposed to make it stronger.
Speaker 17 (34:11):
I don't say, you better say you better preface that
with I'm not a doctor, because if Britt get a test,
when did you get your certification?
Speaker 12 (34:21):
Current?
Speaker 9 (34:22):
Now?
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Just what I read in the Dallas Morning News. Sorry Brett,
but it's the same knee. They're supposed to be kind
of two different things, but it's the same knee. That
makes you wonder.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
You know, it's just going to be a long term deal.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
M M.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
I don't know. It's kind of scary for him.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
It's scary so to have the A c L and
the bone graph and the same knee.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
I won't be back to the start of the season
next year. Miss training camp next August.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
I don't think we've yet.
Speaker 15 (34:50):
I don't think we've yet, and I could be wrong,
but have we have we had anybody that kind of
finished ahead of schedule, like anytime we have a timeline.
This never I don't I can't remember. I could be wrong,
but everyone's like, oh yeah, they'll be back this date.
Next thing you look up that date. Cousins like, oh well,
I'm not quite ready just yet.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Still the only one still still was the only one.
Speaker 13 (35:12):
He should have probably took his time.
Speaker 8 (35:16):
He probably should have took his time.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Were saying, what six eight weeks on Lawrence, and he's
of course foot problems can be.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
Lawrence's looking at sels too, He's like, need to come
back and this double hill.
Speaker 15 (35:33):
Yeah, so when I get out here in this, in this,
in these three agent streets, I'm healthy.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
I'm fully healthy.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Y'all brought up a good I guess a good thing
to think about.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
You brought up the left tackle, or you brought up
the left tackle, your boy, and then you brought up
the wide receiver number one. So you've got positions of
need now based off of development of players. Right, So
you got offensive line, you got wide receiver that nobody's
really stepped up. And you know Brandon Cooks, do you
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do you bring him back? Do you go look to
upgrade there?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Then you've got.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Running back Rico, right, you got a pretty solid running
back there, and then you address some of these and
then defensive line always is somewhere where you want to
get some depth, and then cornerback. But let's just say
for the draft, wide receiver, running back, defensive line, and
offensive line, how would you rank those needs.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
As far as like one, two, three, and four said again.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Offensive line, defensive line, running back, and wide receive your
number two wide receiver.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Off line, defensive line, receiver, running back.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
For me, that's what I would say.
Speaker 15 (36:55):
If you can't protect the guy that you're paying sixty
million dollars to, what are you doing?
Speaker 8 (36:58):
You're screwed. Yeah, I mean that it starts there. It
starts with the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
So what we always have up front Onah.
Speaker 13 (37:06):
Like I said, for this team and not just his team,
many many teams.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
If you know that is what he is, Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
He's he is.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
He's what he is, like it or not. You signed him.
You got what he is, right, right?
Speaker 15 (37:19):
He's not he's not. He's not Lamar Jackson, he's not
Josh Allen, he's not Patrick Mahomes and the level of mobility.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
He is what he is.
Speaker 15 (37:28):
And now your job is to say, we know what
he is, let's give him a level of protection so
that whatever he is he can be the very best
of that possible. Because if he's starting to ask him
and clearly we we we have to stop. We have
to stop saying run and can't, can't like this is
(37:49):
this so now you need what you need to do
is you need to find a way how we're going
to be able to protect him so that he could
be the pocket passer that he needs to be, so
he could be comfortable in the pocket, so that he
can deliver the ball in the middle field, because that's
his throat. His throws, not to the outside. Not that
he can't make those throws, but those aren't his throws.
That's not where he where he he dominates at. He
dominates when he's able to throw the ball in between
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the hashes. So let's keep him up right, let's give
him time, and let's protect that. That's the line one,
then line two is all right, cool, we just scored
a touchdown. How do we prevent the other team now
running it back down our throats? And I'm talking about
the teams that are equal to or better than you,
that's right. How do we how do we give ourselves
a distinct advantage up front? Because if you're going to
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allow if you're going to have young linebackers that you
think that can thrive, and again, you do not forget
this everything that that marriage Lui Foule is this year.
He's gonna have to be better next year because now
there's film on them. You're no longer you're no longer
sneaking up on anybody. You're now a part of the
game plan. You're now a part of the offseason. Uh,
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defensive coordinators, when you look at you look at the schedule,
we know kind of who we play.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
We don't know when we play them.
Speaker 15 (39:02):
But those defensive coordinators, when they get into this thing,
they're gonna start saying, Okay, this is how we defeat
a guy like that.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
You know, I don't know who.
Speaker 15 (39:09):
I don't know when Da Mari and Overshoan will be back.
I don't know if Eric Kendrick cree back, whoever the
other linebackers will be right. You will now be prepared
for people are coming into the game now looking at
you and say, here's where his weaknesses are. So that's
gonna be a thing that you're gonna have to And
that's the part about the league. Every single year, how
can you develop your game to overcome. Now, being scouted,
(39:33):
when you're a rookie, there isn't much tape on you.
I don't care what you did in college that shows
attribute to what you do. But when you get into
the system and how the system uses you, now coaches
go and say, oh, okay, so he's used this way
under this coach and this defense. This is how we
defeat that. Well, if this is a way that we'll
try to use to defeat that, so that has.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
To be to me.
Speaker 15 (39:56):
Line number two is being able to get some uh
some push up front and keep those other guys around
your clean.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Speaking of Louis Foley, he got the green dot with
Kendricks out, how if he didn't he did not get
the green dot.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
Visual got the green dot.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Oh, I thought I read it was Sorry, I thought
I read it.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
Was that was not Visuals.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Had it. But there's they can They can designate it
for three people. Really is lea foul, Vigil and.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
Clark, But most of the time it was it was,
So you can so you can switch it out between
those three during the game.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
Depends on who was in the depends who's in the games,
depends who was in the game.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
So you can only yeah.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
You can't just say, hey, I need five guys. You
can't do that. You gotta do three guys.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
And then if number one is not in they can switch,
they can swap helmets.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Is there more to it than just relaying a message?
Speaker 8 (40:58):
You have to line the guys up. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
That person that you the person that you designate that
not only has to line everybody up, but play at
a high level of his position. You know a lot
of times, you know, you want to get this guy
this responsibility, but he can't even line hisself up.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
So he's not only got to line up that front
line and his line.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Back responsibly and deal with the motions and checks and
when that mic go off, he still got to be
able to communicate and do his job.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
What is it fifteen seconds before the play that they
shut it off, so the play clock is down to fifteen.
Speaker 7 (41:35):
So it starts automatically shuts off for I think the
reason why they did with Leah Fowler is because vigils
out pretty much every.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
Week with a he has a foot and dry he's
been running through.
Speaker 11 (41:46):
So they want to get those you know, the person
who's calling it in his head during the week during practice.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
So I guess in some ways, I thought, maybe you know,
he's telling what the play is at that point, those
guys know where to go and line up. But I
guess there's shifts all that thing. Yeah, the checks it
for sure.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Yeah, m all right before we get out of here.
Speaker 8 (42:07):
You know, I laughed because you can tell you can
get people the original.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
You know, you can say four to three power to
the right, and uh, those little adjustments can be devastating
because they can either get you out leveraged as we
call it. If you if you got a tight end
that wasn't over there and shifts over and you a
defensive end and you need to get in the middle
of that tight end and that uh in between the
(42:36):
middle of the tight end and tackle or get to
that outside because you have no safety help or no
corner help.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
You gotta know this.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
And sometimes us big uglies up front, we get comfortable,
you know, and then you gotta go out and you
see them strapping them on the button.
Speaker 8 (42:50):
Yeah you got it, you know.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Do they play games where do.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
You look at the clock and when he gets blow fifteen,
you know, the mic shut off and you change something
on the offense.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Where they have to make their own adjustment.
Speaker 8 (43:07):
Because the defense does that more than an offense. Like
the defense will try they'll know, Okay, I can see
the clock.
Speaker 15 (43:12):
So if we're if the secondary a lot of times,
if we're gonna if we're gonna spin our coverage, we're
gonna look like we're in a Cover two, but at
the snap of the ball or as close to as possible,
we're gonna then shift down to a Cover one to
throw you off because if you discided it too much
and it's too much common a clock, Now I adjust
so offensively.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
You kind of just try to make your check. Then
the defense makes their check.
Speaker 15 (43:35):
You gotta go with it, you know what I mean.
Like you come out there and you try to you
try to see, okay, what are they in? And that's
when you see guys go kill kill, kill kill, Because
now I've decided what they're in, I need to change
my play call. The defense is the one that tries
to hold on to the very end or you'll see
you'll see the cowboys they'll line up in that double
a gap situation and guys, uh, they'll try to sit
(43:55):
in there as long as possible and try to confuse you.
Because linemen and make it counts. You know here, Roger, Roger,
you know Louis, Louis going. And now they try the
whole whole hole and then the last second.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
They back out of there. Via.
Speaker 13 (44:09):
Yeah, like they try to they try to confuse you,
They try to confuse.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
You a little bit.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Yeah, all right, fellas, what are you doing for? I
guess the holidays tonight and tomorrow since we won't be
here tomorrow. Anything special, playing, just spending time with family, anything.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
Crazy, games, watching the games, games football tomorrow, football and basketball.
Speaker 13 (44:30):
Right, got two good game football games tomorrow too.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Who's playing tomorrow?
Speaker 15 (44:34):
Thinks Chiefs Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Houston, Houston football.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
So we'll have good football on Thursday for once.
Speaker 8 (44:43):
Wednesday Wednesday Wednesday.
Speaker 13 (44:44):
Yeah, it's so weird the NFL.
Speaker 15 (44:47):
The NFL this year would have played on every single
day except Tuesday.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
That's wild. And you know what, eventually they're trying to
get there.
Speaker 13 (44:57):
They like remember Christmas used to be the NB Yeah
right way, yep, like.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
Nah, that was like Saturdays used to be only collegy.
College used to be high school. Lord, not only we're.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Gonna play on Christmas.
Speaker 8 (45:14):
We're gonna give you two games and they're gonna be
good games.
Speaker 15 (45:18):
Yeah, Like we're not giving you Jaguars coats. And people go,
you know what, I might go ahead and watch the
basketball game. They're like, nah, we're giving you prime time.
Patrick Mahomes, Omar Jackson, j.
Speaker 8 (45:29):
Stroud position in football.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
So I feel so.
Speaker 13 (45:33):
And the NBA is already struggling with viewership.
Speaker 8 (45:35):
That just makes it even more tough. Everybody shooting threes, yeah,
I mean one team shot fifty three. It was under
thirty percent.
Speaker 15 (45:44):
Speaking before we got here, I thought it was pretty dope.
Did you when you watch the who did Philly Philly
play Washington this week? And you saw Jayleen Carter and
this is you know, offensive lineman defensive lineman games and
Jayalen Carter's.
Speaker 8 (45:57):
Down in his stance. Uh, and he looks at the
guard and he says, he like he like and he
knew he knew that, like.
Speaker 13 (46:06):
You pull it.
Speaker 8 (46:07):
So now he's like, I gotta just just beat this
guy coming down to block me.
Speaker 7 (46:11):
And then he beats the guy, crawls the phone sad
conscious man.
Speaker 15 (46:16):
A lot of time you see some guys used to
You can always tell by the way your fingers were brown,
if your fingernails. Yeah, it started being like the you
know whatever that color is, and they're like, oh yeah,
you ain't really dug in you you like?
Speaker 13 (46:29):
And he called it out. He said, got the.
Speaker 8 (46:31):
Steads and he did.
Speaker 11 (46:33):
You see when he tried to catch the.
Speaker 15 (46:35):
That's the second time he's trying to try to do that.
He's gonna catch one. He's gonna catch one.
Speaker 8 (46:39):
He tries to catch the spike.
Speaker 15 (46:43):
He dives in the underneath the center, the center's legs
and tries to catch the balls and spike it at
the quarterbacks down.
Speaker 8 (46:51):
He said he saw some kid do it in high school,
like on YouTube video. Wonder if he wonder you practiced
last year?
Speaker 3 (46:58):
He did it?
Speaker 8 (46:59):
And then this, you fletch, He's close.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
He's close.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
That's your new guy. We'll go get tired of hearing
about him. If you could ever get number nine ninety
three is good too. But if you're ever getting number
ninety to join the party, how you gonna how are
you gonna deal with them?
Speaker 17 (47:18):
Be tough?
Speaker 8 (47:18):
Thank god that.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Everybody plays on a different level, because you had three
of those things up there.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
No show tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (47:26):
We will be back. I guess I'll be here tomorrow. Okay,
I'll tell you how to turn everything on. I say
I'll be here. I ain't. I'll be doing the show.
I'll be here. What are you doing trying to see
if anybody lost some money into the locker room?
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Free go go rummaging here for the lunch Thursday. I
guess we'll double dip on Thursday.
Speaker 8 (47:46):
Huh, Offense and defense be ready to Speaking of.
Speaker 13 (47:51):
Double dep you need you need, you mean you need
miss a delight again today, Yes.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Sir.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
Was up ten minutes later.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
It gets double pain.
Speaker 8 (48:05):
Hey, Merry Christmas, guys.
Speaker 15 (48:07):
Me Johnson said, everybody get treated the same, everybody get
treated fit.
Speaker 8 (48:10):
Chris, I know you, but you took the triple triple.
I used to do a triple. Yeah, he's done a
double dip today.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
I can't get three, Nash. You gotta mix it up
a little bit.
Speaker 8 (48:24):
I'm little be here Friday five you catch me girls
talk boys.
Speaker 11 (48:32):
Here's a dilemma. Here's a diloma. So I've got on Friday,
just behind the scenes. So uh, Bill and ever singer
are out on Friday. Some people were like, oh, well
they do it once, you guys told Jesse on there.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
I'm like, yeah, do that.
Speaker 8 (48:49):
Okay, Jesse, you want to do that, you know what
may be looking.
Speaker 13 (48:57):
You know, you know how I'll be waiting. I'll be
eighty for them.
Speaker 5 (49:03):
Good like what that would be good?
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Radio's great radio because he'll he'll go gets everything he say.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
Yeah, believe in.
Speaker 13 (49:18):
Right, Derek, like I already listen, I gave you grace
one time.
Speaker 8 (49:21):
I go double back on.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
Again, Jesse, Nate, Kurt, great seeing you guys.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
Have a wonder Chris, Christmas, Chris, thanks for keeping us
on the air and everything you do. Jazz, Happy birthday, Josh,
thanks for keeping them company.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
We will be back Thursday to talk Cowboys Eagles on
hanging with.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
The Boys Well.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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