December 30, 2024 • 46 mins
Nate, Shannon, and Jesse discuss the latest Dallas Cowboys news & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
Gross wopwam.
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Speaker 5 (00:51):
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Speaker 6 (01:11):
I absolutely love like the sunshine.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
It's the perfect weather.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
It just makes me feel good.
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Chilly in the morning, perfect in the afternoon. This makes
me guns out, good man, guns out, buns out.
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Whoa he is shinning. That is Nate. We are out.
We're without three pumps today and be back with us tomorrow.
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In the back with a party of people is Chris
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Speaker 8 (01:47):
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Speaker 4 (01:58):
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Speaker 9 (02:01):
W wow w w boy like about had to backpack
out this? Somebody left their backpack at home. Yeah, they
needed it. I felt like Nick man. I felt like
Nick Nick just walked off, did he?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Yeah? Inside, Joe, I don't know what's going on. Fill
me in in the break, let me know what's happened.
What happened, Nate? Like, what what to the cowboys? Yes, wah,
this is what happened. Did they just set the tone
too early?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And you just know? This is what happened to me.
Speaker 9 (02:47):
This reminded me of one in fifteen now when we
were seven and whatever and we were trying to get somebody.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Else to help us get in.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
But what I realized over the years was you play
better when you have something to play far, because once
it really soaks in that you don't have anything to
play for. Plus the guys over there do and they
are better and they are more excited. And you throw
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a interception and you are down by seven, and even
though you come back and score, you throw another interception
and you're down by that same seven.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
The gas slowly leaks out.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
It's called a death by a thousand cuts.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
By players that were just better than you.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
Jesse, your thoughts, Philly's better, there is no Are they
that much better? Yes, yes they are. Okay, yes they are,
especially when you and I get it. The Cowboys are
down a bunch of players. But you know, maybe it's
not forty seven, forty one to seven, you know it was.
It was a thirty four to six the last timely
played them earlier in the year. Something wasn't too much,
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wasn't too much of a difference. They're just a better
football team. They are, have a better roster, better players,
even with their second even with their second and third
quarterback in there, just a better football team.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
It's nothing.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
The Cowboys could have played their very best. You were
still losing to that football.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I tell you what, Kenny Pickett gained a lot of
followers or a lot of fans. That's a tough dude.
Man came out that he was playing with cracked ribs.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Football players are normally tough dudes, you know, normally, normally,
normally we consider ourselves pretty tough dudes.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
To go and get into a car accident, down in
and down and just get up and do it again.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And all I can think about was you. When he
was going to the locker room, I was like, what
what do you always say?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
A little drugs.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Got good drugs back there, Yeah, got ready to drugs
back there.
Speaker 9 (04:56):
Parsons would not have did that if somebody when he
cracked his ribs a few a few seconds earlier, they
got him. What happened was he was only locked up
with the defensive with the offensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Right, wow, did he stopped kind of? And then your
boy Picky came his way.
Speaker 9 (05:17):
He's like, okay, get my back, And that's not I
ain't saying that was right. But if you watched it
play from the beginning of the snap got him perfectly
and made him stop.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
He didn't hit. They said, you get like two steps.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
He got pulled up and he pulled. They didn't last him.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I'm here.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Now now Osa.
Speaker 10 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
That was that was That was tough to watch.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
That was about That was like a Michael Jordan's you know,
you know, hop skip jump hop hop to the rim.
Speaker 9 (05:56):
That was then after the game, like, man, did he
let everybody know how he felt.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
You what is that after the game?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I didn't hear, did Chris? Do you have that cutter?
It'll be hard to find.
Speaker 9 (06:12):
Hard you can paraphrase for Merys cut the game.
Speaker 11 (06:18):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah, the thing that is, uh, you ain't gonna paraphrase
from there?
Speaker 9 (06:26):
Do that because I know you can find it, and
I don't want to bring it to the fan. But anyway,
I just believe this right here, man, you was just
a week ahead of time, just for your I think.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
This is the game with all the you know.
Speaker 9 (06:48):
I passed by a couple of players ex players, and
they like what you think.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I just say.
Speaker 9 (06:53):
The scoreboard finally caught up with us. The scoreboard finally
showed that we were playing with backups that were playing
very well. We just had we had a few of
our stars, but not all of them. But this is
what happens when you play two teams that are that
feel good about what they're doing, and the better team
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usually win and wins big.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I mean, this quarterback his worst times.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
I listened to the show earlier Josh that Josh is on,
and they were just breaking it down. Boy we if
Cooper Rush is ever playing again, take him out against
Philly because he has no win against Philly, no nothing
at all.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
They beats him.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
What happened to him?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
He looked bad, Like he doesn't looked bad.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
Really, you know, like they said the Philly is kryptonite, man, I.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Mean that what that first interception, it was like, first off,
it looked familiar to you.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
It was a misread and he overthrew him.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Look, look did it look familiar to you?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
It probably will want you to tell me why it should.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
It's the same interception that doctor against Green Break, same routes,
same route concept, and the safety just passed off the
first guy because he's already he had already predetermined I'm
going to this slant right behind it. And if you
go back and you watch that game and to answer
to answer both of your questions, it's it's we.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Laugh at it, but maybe he does.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Vic Vangio, the defensive coordinator on Philly, remember when he
was in Denver. It was like I got the blueprint
to these guys, like the blueprint, and he was like, oh,
there is the blueprint, and it was making this. The
quarterbacks to this offense have to read through coverage. And
when you go back and you watch especially Earlier in
(08:41):
that game the Eagles dbs and you you know this
was talked about in film. They were playing off and
they were looking to jump the hitches, the slants, and
if you look at the first I think it was
like the first catch Brandon Cooks had, he was on
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the right hand side and he ran like a deeper
out or comeback. Darius Slay was guarding him. If you
watch the play, Darius Slay is playing off coverage, but
the way that he's playing, he's like, Yeah, I'm gonna
play off and they're gonna run this slant and I'm
gonna jump it.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
And he goes.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
And when Brandon Cooks gets to that slant depth, you
see him take a step forward and then he realized
he didn't throw it. He says, oh, and he baseball
turns and he gets out of there. That's why he
seems so wide open on the long throw against against Mitchell,
that mingo, that mingo beat him down the field. It
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was the same thing. It was just stuttering go. They
were sitting on those slants earlier in that game because
they were like, oh, we watched what happened last week.
In the week before that, the ball's coming out quick,
he has a faster release. They don't want to go
down the field. He can't throw down the field, and
we're just gonna sit on it. And then, of course
the pick six that happened early in the game, it
was that same concept he passed. He passed the tight
end on and said, gotcha, right.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Is that something your coaches tell you to do during
the week and say, hey, watch for this, this is
what we're gonna do. Take a chance. It's on me
if you get beat. Or is it something that the
players decide to do. Hey, I see this on film.
I'm gonna it's a discussion. It's a conversation.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Like, hey, listen, when they get outside the numbers, you know,
plus two percentage, just say they running the slant. Hey,
when they get into this formation where they're three by one,
they're probably gonna run tight end, clear out double slants
behind that.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Be ready for that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Like, it's when you go back and you watch film
and you watch because normally normally you watch if you're
if you're evaluating a team, you watch three games, right Like,
if if you're looking, if you're heading into that week,
you go back and you watch three games from a
coaching perspective, because that's gonna give you the most recent thing.
There's some change that may have happened in there. You'll
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see some different competition. But you go back and you
watch the last three games and you just see, all right,
what's consistent, what's consistent. And then on top of that,
it's your division rival, so you see them twice a year.
So you go back and watch those three games and
then what happened the last time y'all played and what
worked well, what didn't work well, And you start finding
trends and you start finding things that you're familiar with,
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and that's when you talk about route recognition from formation
recognition and the good ones like when you talk to
the good cornerbacks in the league or you know of
our times, they'll sit back and they'll tell you, oh,
I've seen this coverage before, or are not covers, but
I've seen this formation before. Out of this formation third down,
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they're probably running one of these one of these three routes,
because this is what history has said they've done over
the last three or four games or the last time
that we played them. And you take the educated guests
and sometimes you guess, right, But most of the time
coaches and teams, there is a there's a trend, right,
It's like we kind of know what you want to
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do and what style that you want to do it.
And that's where that's where the chess game comes in.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
When are you gonna do it? How are you gonna
do it?
Speaker 7 (12:07):
It's the chess game, and then it's the Jimmy's and
Joe's game, because you know, Nat'll tell you there were
a point time when it was like, hey, dog, we
were running low right, y'all, y'all know what's coming, but
me toy Eric step hey, listen, come get us. Yeah,
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and we're going right, y'all, y'all know what we're doing.
But well, I'll meet you at the APEX and we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Then it just was better than you.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
You just go out, well, hey, coach, I gave it
my best, and that's what some toms happens.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That was sweet, Jess, you took a thirteen. Sweet, let's
take a break.
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Let's when we come back football. If Nate can remember
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Speaker 4 (13:00):
Oh yeah, we won, got a skin of I teeth.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I remember one of his I don't remember how many
we had? Was was it three super Bowls that I won?
And that how he usually plays it off. All right,
we'll see when we come back. Hang with the Boys,
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We see you later.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
There we go before we get out of here for
the year.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
We're going soon soon.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Do we want to release the schedule yet, Chris?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Or no?
Speaker 11 (16:15):
You can say when you are It's fine, Okay, we.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Will be we will be all. We will not be
here Wednesday for New Year's Day.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
We will be here.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
Why do we do something like that.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
We will be here Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Wait, we're not here tomorrow.
Speaker 13 (16:26):
No, we're here tomorrow, Wednesday, Wednesday, we will New Year's
Day watch football.
Speaker 11 (16:31):
Please.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
We'll be here Thursday and Friday and Friday will be
our last daily show until training camp. I guess we
go two weekly starting next week. So next week next week,
no Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We will be Thursdays at one
pm Central.
Speaker 11 (16:50):
Time, Thursdays at one pm Central.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Once per week.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Now you see what lack of playoff do that?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Man? You know what, just got.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
A little more shout You never know when your last game.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
That is true. But I tell folks all like, oh Jesse,
you a hater. You will never say nothing do around
I go.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Nobody enjoys wants them to win more than us.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
That's right, you said on the show? What said they
don't win?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I don't get cut short and I don't win.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
I'm trying to remodel the bathroom.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
What's the different between a contract player, a short term player,
and a long term player? Commas that's been a short
term player. You get a chance to show who you
are so you can get along.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Speaking of we were we were talking about it was
kind of enjoyable to watch the the fight in the game.
If you saw some of the behind fight, was that
behind the scenes videos like the Big One, the Big
one that they actually went to the ground and dog
piled each other and took the refs out.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Shout out the junior he was trying to pull the
ref slegs from underneath the pile.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Was trying to help the ref. Yeah, Junior was like
really like literally.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Like trying to help the ref, like help the ref
get up left legs underneath the pile, and he couldn't.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Get out, like he was trapped in a car. Was
like trapped undereath that.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
There's one video I want.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
I want to thank the police officers the way getting
the way.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
You never see your feet that quick, not getting involved,
y'all handle it.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
We we take care of the stance.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Yeah, that's the thing that's not always been crazy to
me and pro sports, Like you beat the hell out
of somebody like that on the street, you go to jail,
you beat the hell out of somebody like that in
the hockey game or a basketball game, football game, baseball game.
You just go to the locker room, you know, and.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
It's it's checked, like check.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
That's what I was going to talk about, because we
were talking about that break, like a couple of those
guys that that got involved, what's that fine look like?
Because for everybody doesn't know, Jesse kind of tell everybody
what the fight was, who was involved.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
And then so it was a dB from the from
the I guess d from the twenty one Brown was
the last name? Was his last name Brown? It doesn't,
but they got to it. They got into a little
kerf fluffle. Uh and the Cowboys Jalen Brooks and I
don't even know who the other dude was.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I never heard of him, Chris. Do you know who
he was? Was he a practice squad guy?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
They brought up?
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Who the guy who got fined?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
The guy who else got thrown out? Jalen Brooks? And
who else the.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
Guy who got thrown out is Jalen Brooks? And Uh,
it touched. It's not Polk, It's.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
He's asking pride.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
He just got he just got brought up.
Speaker 11 (19:53):
Yeah, pride just got brought up to the practice squad.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And so we were talking about this, like, oh, you
get fined for stuff like that, do you okay?
Speaker 13 (20:02):
So I have the list if you want to know
how much you got five let's hear it. Thirty nine thousand,
five hundred and one dollars. That's for fighting. I don't
know if it's extra for getting thrown out of the game,
but I think fighting is automatical ejection.
Speaker 11 (20:14):
That's your first.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Offense, and you you just got brought up from the
practice squad. How much do those practice squad guys make
per game?
Speaker 13 (20:21):
Well, I think they get the they get the minimum,
they get like the they get a minimum check for
getting called up, so they get like the veterroom minimum check.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
So I don't know what that is.
Speaker 13 (20:31):
There's no way it's six hundred and sixty six thousand though,
because that's how my style, because so that's what it is.
Thirty nine thousand would be six hundred something. It's like, yeah,
thirty nine thousand, five hundred one dollars is like, is
like six hundred and sixty six thousand.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So he actually paid to play in the Gay Yes,
he played.
Speaker 11 (20:48):
It was a w rec game for him. He actually paid.
He paid his dea, he paid playing, He paid him
and Jaylen he probably he's probably paying for next week too,
because if.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
You just got called up, not counting anybody's pockets, but
less say his check is forty thousand, that's before you
get hit with that Philadelphia state tax. And for those
of you that don't know NFL players and professional athletes,
that's to say, we have to pay what they call
an entertainment tax.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
All entertainers, all correct, So singers singers a concert tax.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Basically, when we go from state to state, even though
our home base is Texas where there's no state income tax,
because we go and perform in these other states, we
pay and that check we have to pay that state's
tax representative whatever that representative of the tax number. So
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when you're in New Jersey playing against and MetLife, which
MetLife is in New Jersey, you're playing the Jets of
the Giants, you play, you pay on that check New
Jersey state tax. When you play in Philadelphia, you pay
Silvania state tax.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
You go and play the.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Chargers or the Niners or any one of those teams,
you're playing California state tax.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
It's flip.
Speaker 13 (22:09):
By the way, cities have taxes to East ruther for
New Jersey has a tax and entertainment taxes.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But it's flip though, if they come here, you don't
pay taxes.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
No, when you play your home games, my home games,
I am in the state that I'm playing against, so
I don't pay anything.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
But if Philly comes here and play, correct, they don't
pay state tax.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
They love playing in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, now there's tax city tax like the state. The
worst California, Jersey. Go neck and neck. Now they get
they get, they get down and dirty neck.
Speaker 13 (22:39):
There's there's a there's a big reason why a lot
of these huge contracts have a signing bonus and you
have like your salary right because your salary is the
one that gets taxed. Yes, not your signing bonus that
you you signed, that's that get taxed by the state
you're in.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
So there's some there is some like going around there.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, show hey, So what happens is and you get
called up, Like I said roughly, Pride was his last name.
He's probably making forty forty three thousand per game per game, so.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
He had to pay to play this game. He had
to pay.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
He's lost this entire check and it's probably gonna tap
into his next check if he's activated.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
If he's activated next week.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Wow, I saw.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I don't remember what the company was, but they they
were it was a financial advising company and they were
talking to young athletes in college and they were explaining
they had him in the in the team meeting room,
the big meeting room, and you know, they were like,
some of you guys are going to you know, the NFL.
Some guys are getting an il deals. Let me break
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your money down for you. He said, let's just say
you make a million dollars, which is a good living,
and he started breaking it down and taking money out, like, okay,
right off the top, forty percent gone.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Well yeah, because you're in a different tax bracket. Now, yeah,
they hit you. They hit you a little harder, they
hit you a little harder in that tax bracket.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, He's like, so forty percent is gone.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Then you're gonna have to have an agent, and then
the agent's gonna take let's say ten more percent.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
So right there, not.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
In the league, not the league, not in the league.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
But he was just knocking it off, right, I'm just saying,
I'm just because like there's a difference because there's some
kids in college is getting hit with a crazy cost
for these firms that's doing it. But in the league,
the most your agent, the very max, your agent can
get three percent on your contract. Now your marketing deals,
your outside football stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Where they have to go hustle, that can get up
to twenty percent. Yeah wow, that can.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
That can go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah, that can get that can get out of control
because they got to hustle there.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Yeah, but you're NFL money because they're bringing you that
your NFL money by NFL PA NFL rule is the max.
Max is the max, and that's negotiable depending on who
you are, who's your agency.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Well, but that's the max I'll get on the country.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
You know you're gonna get fifty fifty million dollars signed.
As you tell us, you know, I can get somebody
else to do this deal. You started negotiation right there.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Yeah, but now, but but now here's something else that
is also kind of contractual type situation. Let's just say,
for example, Shannon, you're my agent, right, so you're my agent,
and uh, we start working on a deal. Okay, but
I fire you, Yes, I fire you, and I go
(25:36):
hire natives of my agent.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I still get my money.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
You still you still are required a percentage that deal.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
For initiating the deal.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Yes, wow, yeah, So if you if you were there
when I started my deal and I fired you, you
still are or I don't know what the exact percentage is,
but you get a percentage still of that deal.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Now if I fire are you like if I'm if
I'm if I'm.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Heading into the season and it's a contract year and
I fire you before the season is over.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
We're done. But you already got your money that you
started for.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
If you started talks, if.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
You started talking to negotiation with and I didn't like it,
whatever and I fired you, you're still entitled to a
percentage of the deal that whoever goes forward makes.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Wow. Yeah, it was. It was crazy though.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I was like, and you know, he was knocking it down,
and you're gonna do this for your mom and then
you're gonna have this person that's gonna do this, and
then you got this and then you have to pay
this and you and those kids eyes.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
That were just like and that's why I always why
we really lost this game, dude, we talking about money. Yeah,
this football game is done in a minute.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
And that's another thing I always I always get on,
like you see a lot of times on social media,
is that you see these guys they come out, you know,
drafted and they're just like, you know, I bought my
mom a brand new car in the house. I'm like
that said, that's that's at times anywhere between three four,
five hundred thousand dollars. And the one who got hit
like that was like real hard. Was a guy A
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couple of years ago, the Washington Commanders drafted the guy
the Lsu Juice Darius Juice or something like that, and
he was like, bought his mom a jag truck and
a brand new house. And I'm like, dude, you you
were like a second round pick. You're still in your
first rookie deal. Like you buy your mama and him
a house and all that. When you get that on
your second second deal. A second deal is where you
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kind of really set up for life. But when you
buy that, you know, even if you're a first round pick,
like you got to live off that forever, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
And if you don't make it, that's your money. That's
all you got to tell you, that's all you get.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
And that joker was buying man and he got hurt,
blew his knee out, and I ain't seen him since.
We ain't seen him since.
Speaker 9 (27:49):
And you know what, So, you know what's so disheartening
is the people he went out and helped and did
all of that.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You know what they gonna you know what they tell
you know what they told him.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Now that all this stuff getting repossessed, Why did you
think about that? And that's what if y'all listen to nothing.
Jesse said, please listen to what he just said at
the end. Be careful about these people you're taking care
of because you basically took care of them through college,
(28:23):
just before the whatever. Nowadays, that is it you really
taking care of them? Now, budget your money. I talked
to Diann a lot about that.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Well.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
He tried to tell his kids, this right here is
the beginning. It can be the beginning of the end
or the beginning of something special. Now players have no
reason to say I never had that type of money before.
You're in college and a lot of them getting nice money.
He tried to tell learn to budget, learn to tell
(28:56):
your family no.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
No, and oh tell them heck no until you get
that second deal and.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
You really really really really get paid.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
But yeah, man, that that's But the guy like like
like Taylor Brooks, who I believe is on league minimum,
guy like Pride, who I believe is on league minimum.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I mean, come on in here, ladies, what do you do.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
They're just like, come on, we don't want to do
the show.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Get over there, get on talking money. He can help
them too.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Yeah, we talked.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
We're just talking about how you know, the find that
these players are gonna get forget through out of the
game they can't afford.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Isn't as much as what they're good to. Everybody introduced
yourself Nicole.
Speaker 14 (29:42):
H team reporter and this is.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Design.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Yeah you got newly was like double cup, this is
not no.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, so what do y'all doing down in the basement?
What do y'all y'all drove by, and then Nate in
Nate fashion, was like, come on, come on, come.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
On videos okay to yeah, talk about work, about the game.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah, how do y'all feel about the game.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
That's why we talk the money exactly?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Well, she never met her Mike. She didn't like you.
Speaker 14 (30:18):
Only because one of his contract is he don't make
a lot of money, like you.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Said, So why do you feel bad for him?
Speaker 14 (30:23):
Because he's basically gonna be playing for free?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
So why do you feel bad for him?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I feel bad?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
Okay, come on, I'm asking the questions.
Speaker 14 (30:30):
When you start to like cover this team, you obviously
start building relationships with a lot of the guys, you know.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
But you like, you didn't have to fight, you didn't
like you took that Like that's my thing is like,
at some point in time, where does the point what
is the what is it?
Speaker 10 (30:44):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Thanks?
Speaker 14 (30:48):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
It's like it's like.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Turn this on, absolutely, turn this on, Like what what
were you fighting for?
Speaker 14 (30:55):
There was no reason to fight. However, I still stand
by me feeling bad for jail because gonna be playing
for free. You gotta be smart. You have to be
smart in those situations. Absolutely, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I never got it.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I wasn't doing all that fighting. Man, I'm tired.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
I didn't even know. Even back then, I didn't know.
I was like you, I was like, dude, to push me.
I'll be like, yo, man, that's if I If I
fight you, that constituted three or three plays, I'm a miss.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
So I'm not messing with you.
Speaker 14 (31:27):
But wait, let me who got in fights on y'all team?
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Kevin Gogan, Kevin Gogan and Kevin Gogan. Kevin Gogan was
gonna fight almost every game. Yeah, and they want there
gonna be no flags and then we just break it up.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
And you know my teams.
Speaker 15 (31:46):
It was Dez Tyler, Patman, No, it was Mark Colombo yeah,
and Keith Brooking.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Keith used to fight.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Yeah he's a crazy dude, bro, nice guy.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
No, he's not he's not. Wow, No I thought listen,
I don't thought. I had to fight Keith one time
in practice. I didn't want to be no be so
I stood my ground. But on the inside, I don't
really want to fight him.
Speaker 14 (32:15):
So then what do you tell your teammate when they
make dumb decisions like that?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
You you don't have to you don't have to know.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
I'm saying it.
Speaker 11 (32:22):
I'm feeling sorry for Jamie.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Brus I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
Like making nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars this year.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
He can take the other guy.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
I'm sad the other guy sorry.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
For I remember.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I remember we were.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Telling me to feel sorry for.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
When we were playing or Lemon.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I remember Loco the State, Yeah he was.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
He was the other dead Bryant handler. He played linebacker
forth and Ory Lemon in a play in the.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Preseason great name, by the way, had an aregeous I
mean absolutely a goageous late hit on a quarterback and
they wore his pockets out.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
That fine that he got, now it was more than
he made. He was playing for free. But whatever it was,
it was an egregious penalty that didn't have to happen,
and so when it's pending that don't have to happen,
like I get sometime being in the heat of the games,
you know you could your safety you come down, or
your your your defensive end you're rushing. But when there's
egregious and you don't have to do it, like Jalen
(33:28):
Brooks didn't have to get into a fight.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
You could have said your piece, maybe mushed them.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
He mushed you back, whatever, go to the sideline, but
you y'all carried it into the tunnel, knocked over, a
ref got thrown out. I'm thinking, like that's going through
my mind. I'm like for I don't want to fight nobody.
I'm like whatever, But I'm always thinking about when the referee?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
When, the when?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
The when?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
When?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
For us it was, uh, it was Tony the Hill Thrill.
He works for the NFL and covers the Cowboys. When
Tony Thrill Hill comes down before the in the pregame
and they get the list to to Buckie and one
of them, and Bucky goes.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
He's the uniform, beutiful.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
When he goes, Holly, pull your socks up. You ain't
got to tell me twice. These socks gonna be in
order to Yeah, like, oh, you know, that's what happens.
Like Tony comes into Tony the three Hill comes out
there and he's looking on the che checking everybody uniform.
Speaker 13 (34:19):
So I looked up Pride salary. Okay, first of all,
I don't feel sorry for him anymore. Okay, he's made
two point five million.
Speaker 11 (34:24):
Over this his career.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Okay, but he.
Speaker 13 (34:28):
Is only making sixty two thousand news year for the Cowboys.
So that's thirty nine thousand this year. Yeah, this year
per game or the well because he came in late, right,
so he's un practice squad r right, So.
Speaker 11 (34:40):
But he will that will escalate. You'll have a contract
that escalates if he gets called.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Up right now.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
The grunt thing is so they can only truly really
find you if I'm not mistaken if you're on the
active roster.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Like the money only comes out if you're on the
active roster.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
So if he goes back to the practice squad, they
won't take his practice squad check if I'm not mistaken to.
Speaker 13 (35:02):
Take his check from the game this game, check this game,
this game, this check is.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
He and there talking talking to Todd?
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Hey, please send me back, Please send me back down.
Speaker 11 (35:11):
So well he will get we'll get sent back down.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
Well if he can sit back down, but if he
gets elevated again next week, whatever's left over.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
Yeah, they'll take care of They're gonna get that too.
I'd be like, hey, I didn't know that.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
No, no, no, no, no, you cannot feel sorry for guy.
If this was a rookie we were talking about. I'm
with you. This guy been in the league.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
He's a twenty one no joint.
Speaker 11 (35:36):
He's a journey yay.
Speaker 13 (35:37):
No, no, you play Carolina a journey.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Yeah, you don't do stupid. I got fine, Well, he
asked Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 14 (35:46):
This is your two friends.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
I got fined one time. This is the I told
you got this honest, got true. I got fined one
time nine thousand, nine hundred and sixty one dollars and
seventy nine cents.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
He remembers the sense how much.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Nine thousand, nine hundred seven one dollars sixty nine cents.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
I cried.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
I went to Jason Garrett and ten thousand for I said, listen, coach,
can we talk about this. I'm always on time, like
and I got I had the one time I was
late because I got fined for technically missing a meeting
and being late to a meeting because the team meeting
(36:23):
with thirty seconds. Coach came in there was like, I gods,
have a good day, right break it to your groups
team meeting. I missed it. And then I came in
five minutes late to the special team meeting meeting, same
look back to back, and it was like, yeah, I
got to envelope my lock.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
And I was like, what did he work with you?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
No, Jason didn't work with you.
Speaker 14 (36:45):
No, you still had to come off the nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
Thank god.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
So I was so upset.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
I was so upset, I went crying, you know, I
wide receive position meeting.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I was so mad. I was hang ground. Was like,
I do everything right.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
I show up on time, I'm in the weight room,
I do every I'm like I'm chasing des around here
for them.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
I do everything right. You still find you.
Speaker 11 (37:04):
Went to the wires room and you find out what
was in that bag, and you.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Know, and and and Roy cut me a check. Roy
Williams gave me ten thousand. God, Roy Williams gave me
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 11 (37:14):
He's the man, he said.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
You're absolutely right, bro, And he gave me ten grand.
He really, he literally he literally wrote me a check
for ten thousand dollars. Wow, And I stopped crying.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I think I got fined one time, you.
Speaker 11 (37:26):
Said him at Christmas President, I did?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
I did get that year.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
I would have I did.
Speaker 11 (37:31):
It wouldn't be ten thousand worth of Christmas.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
But he's still my friend. I called him right and hey,
brore you doing good. I'll never forget.
Speaker 9 (37:37):
That forty five hundred or seventy five hundred. I don't
know what it was. And I don't even know what
I got fined about. But uh, back then a while,
but I said, wasn't gonna be it?
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Was it that Friday morning? You know that Friday morning?
Wait checking, now you know what it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Could have been? That forty seven fifty seven thousand found?
Speaker 11 (37:55):
Okay, what year was this, Jesse?
Speaker 4 (37:57):
And uh?
Speaker 11 (37:58):
What year was what the year he did this to you?
The gave it gave you?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah? It was how many years out that he said.
Speaker 11 (38:06):
I'm trying to find out how much Roy was making
that year?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (38:09):
You know, had Roy had money? Roy? I mean he
had signed.
Speaker 13 (38:12):
A he was making fourteen point six million that year.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
He could he could he could cut it, he could
cut the check.
Speaker 11 (38:20):
He made fifty four million over.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I was with you and they said twenty twenty one.
That dude, you stupid man.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Come on, bro, you gotta take a break so we
get fined.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah, let's take a break. We'll come back and talk
for two. Be right back.
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Speaker 7 (41:42):
Shout out to rico'dell reached a thousand yards, the first
undrafted running back in Cowboys history to reach the thousand
yard mark. That's big. That's big for Rico. We're talking
about money like to to be a running back in
today's football, and even how the season went for him
kind of like running back by committee, not running back
(42:03):
by committee. Give him ten carriers, give them eight carriers,
give them and he still was able to muster out
a thousand yards. That add value to what would you?
Speaker 11 (42:11):
Would you keep him?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Yes, for the right price, or would you try to
get somebody in the draft?
Speaker 12 (42:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Both? What if?
Speaker 5 (42:18):
What if he's right on the right, on the edge
a little bit more than what you want to pay
him to bring him back?
Speaker 9 (42:25):
But the way you don't is you sure you're gonna
get your guy in the draft. You sure one hundred
percent that you're gonna get your guy in the draft.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Because I'm sure this year is going to be a
lot like last year. Steven's already alluded to it that
money's going to be tight. You're not gonna be able
to hang on all these guys, and they're probably going
to have a number for each guy and be like.
Speaker 11 (42:43):
Here it is.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
If you want to stay here, we want you to
hear this, but this is the number. We're not going
higher than this. I'm sure he's got a number, and
if someone offers.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
Him a little bit more, he should go.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Would you bump it up if you were the Cowboys
if it's right on the edge of you know, I mean,
because what do you have? If you don't have him,
you got nothing. You're starting from scratch.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
I think so.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
I think if it's close, I think it's the Cowboys
go ahead and pay him.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
We kind of have to, don't you, because if not,
you got nothing, and there's not really anybody going to
be out there on the open market. You already you
already know we're not going to go get somebody in
free agency or somebody it's a free agent.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
Now, you wanted to address the other guy that they
had on the Uh there's another running back that they
had on the practice squadal right, Who was it?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Chris not who played a lot last year? Not cook
Kidna who played a lot last year. Yeah, I can't
think of his name.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Chris.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
I'm talking about he slipped. I know you're talking Malik Davis. Yes, yeah,
like Malik Davis. They may say, all right, Blik, your turn.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Next up? Next?
Speaker 6 (43:42):
Is he even here? He's still here?
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Is he hurt?
Speaker 6 (43:43):
I don't even know what Milik Davis is at professional linem.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Kyle said that he would, uh if Ashton Genti's there
at fifteen, which is where the Cowboys are now. He
was like, I'm against taking a running back in the
first round, but I would look at that guy.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
So I have a big gut feeling that we're gonna
look back on the Ashing Gentz situation. It's not gonna
be that great and it's not gonna be let people
think of this.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
That's just my gut feeling.
Speaker 9 (44:06):
I'm telling you this right here, right now, time ago. Well, No,
we need to get a wide receiver, yes, Lord, And
the why in the first round?
Speaker 4 (44:13):
We need a wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
That's that's big coming from Nate, Yes, because you know
Nate's the big upfront.
Speaker 9 (44:20):
You're either gonna give us a wide receiver. Are your
quarterback and your other wide receiver gonna pay for it?
They gonna pay for it because if you're not gonna
change the coach.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
And I'm just going.
Speaker 9 (44:32):
Off with Jesse saying, and you're not gonna run a
thousand and eight hundred motions for snap?
Speaker 4 (44:38):
What are you doing?
Speaker 9 (44:39):
He's gonna line them up, run across the thing, and
they just make one or two adjustments and they got
him covered. So you either go get another wide receiver
so you can continue to run your same offense, or
you get your somebody that's gonna be a little more innovative,
because CD shouldn't. He's built to catch a hundred passes
a year, but you don't want that to be one
hundred and thirty passes a year.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
All right, let's get out of here, Fellas. Good seeing you, Jesse.
Good show with Kurt.
Speaker 9 (45:04):
Back tomorrow, good show, good financial talk to Chris Beam.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
We're keeping us on the air. Josh Jazz, thanks for
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Gray Logi and uh Presley. Yes, thanks for Chris, thanks
for running the daycare back there at the back. No,
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Make sure you tune in.
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We'll have lots to say on hanging with the boys.
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Jesse.
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Yeah.
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Speaker 9 (02:01):
W wow w w boy like about had to backpack
out this? Somebody left their backpack at home. Yeah, they
needed it. I felt like Nick man. I felt like
Nick Nick just walked off, did he?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Yeah? Inside, Joe, I don't know what's going on. Fill
me in in the break, let me know what's happened.
What happened, Nate? Like, what what to the cowboys? Yes, wah,
this is what happened. Did they just set the tone
too early?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And you just know? This is what happened to me.
Speaker 9 (02:47):
This reminded me of one in fifteen now when we
were seven and whatever and we were trying to get somebody.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Else to help us get in.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
But what I realized over the years was you play
better when you have something to play far, because once
it really soaks in that you don't have anything to
play for. Plus the guys over there do and they
are better and they are more excited. And you throw
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a interception and you are down by seven, and even
though you come back and score, you throw another interception
and you're down by that same seven.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
The gas slowly leaks out.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
It's called a death by a thousand cuts.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
By players that were just better than you.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
Jesse, your thoughts, Philly's better, there is no Are they
that much better? Yes, yes they are. Okay, yes they are,
especially when you and I get it. The Cowboys are
down a bunch of players. But you know, maybe it's
not forty seven, forty one to seven, you know it was.
It was a thirty four to six the last timely
played them earlier in the year. Something wasn't too much,
(04:03):
wasn't too much of a difference. They're just a better
football team. They are, have a better roster, better players,
even with their second even with their second and third
quarterback in there, just a better football team.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
It's nothing.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
The Cowboys could have played their very best. You were
still losing to that football.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I tell you what, Kenny Pickett gained a lot of
followers or a lot of fans. That's a tough dude.
Man came out that he was playing with cracked ribs.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Football players are normally tough dudes, you know, normally, normally,
normally we consider ourselves pretty tough dudes.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
To go and get into a car accident, down in
and down and just get up and do it again.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And all I can think about was you. When he
was going to the locker room, I was like, what
what do you always say?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
A little drugs.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Got good drugs back there, Yeah, got ready to drugs
back there.
Speaker 9 (04:56):
Parsons would not have did that if somebody when he
cracked his ribs a few a few seconds earlier, they
got him. What happened was he was only locked up
with the defensive with the offensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Right, wow, did he stopped kind of? And then your
boy Picky came his way.
Speaker 9 (05:17):
He's like, okay, get my back, And that's not I
ain't saying that was right. But if you watched it
play from the beginning of the snap got him perfectly
and made him stop.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
He didn't hit. They said, you get like two steps.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
He got pulled up and he pulled. They didn't last him.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I'm here.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Now now Osa.
Speaker 10 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
That was that was That was tough to watch.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
That was about That was like a Michael Jordan's you know,
you know, hop skip jump hop hop to the rim.
Speaker 9 (05:56):
That was then after the game, like, man, did he
let everybody know how he felt.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
You what is that after the game?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I didn't hear, did Chris? Do you have that cutter?
It'll be hard to find.
Speaker 9 (06:12):
Hard you can paraphrase for Merys cut the game.
Speaker 11 (06:18):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah, the thing that is, uh, you ain't gonna paraphrase
from there?
Speaker 9 (06:26):
Do that because I know you can find it, and
I don't want to bring it to the fan. But anyway,
I just believe this right here, man, you was just
a week ahead of time, just for your I think.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
This is the game with all the you know.
Speaker 9 (06:48):
I passed by a couple of players ex players, and
they like what you think.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I just say.
Speaker 9 (06:53):
The scoreboard finally caught up with us. The scoreboard finally
showed that we were playing with backups that were playing
very well. We just had we had a few of
our stars, but not all of them. But this is
what happens when you play two teams that are that
feel good about what they're doing, and the better team
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usually win and wins big.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I mean, this quarterback his worst times.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
I listened to the show earlier Josh that Josh is on,
and they were just breaking it down. Boy we if
Cooper Rush is ever playing again, take him out against
Philly because he has no win against Philly, no nothing
at all.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
They beats him.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
What happened to him?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
He looked bad, Like he doesn't looked bad.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
Really, you know, like they said the Philly is kryptonite, man, I.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Mean that what that first interception, it was like, first off,
it looked familiar to you.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
It was a misread and he overthrew him.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Look, look did it look familiar to you?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
It probably will want you to tell me why it should.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
It's the same interception that doctor against Green Break, same routes,
same route concept, and the safety just passed off the
first guy because he's already he had already predetermined I'm
going to this slant right behind it. And if you
go back and you watch that game and to answer
to answer both of your questions, it's it's we.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Laugh at it, but maybe he does.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Vic Vangio, the defensive coordinator on Philly, remember when he
was in Denver. It was like I got the blueprint
to these guys, like the blueprint, and he was like, oh,
there is the blueprint, and it was making this. The
quarterbacks to this offense have to read through coverage. And
when you go back and you watch especially Earlier in
(08:41):
that game the Eagles dbs and you you know this
was talked about in film. They were playing off and
they were looking to jump the hitches, the slants, and
if you look at the first I think it was
like the first catch Brandon Cooks had, he was on
(09:02):
the right hand side and he ran like a deeper
out or comeback. Darius Slay was guarding him. If you
watch the play, Darius Slay is playing off coverage, but
the way that he's playing, he's like, Yeah, I'm gonna
play off and they're gonna run this slant and I'm
gonna jump it.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
And he goes.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
And when Brandon Cooks gets to that slant depth, you
see him take a step forward and then he realized
he didn't throw it. He says, oh, and he baseball
turns and he gets out of there. That's why he
seems so wide open on the long throw against against Mitchell,
that mingo, that mingo beat him down the field. It
(09:40):
was the same thing. It was just stuttering go. They
were sitting on those slants earlier in that game because
they were like, oh, we watched what happened last week.
In the week before that, the ball's coming out quick,
he has a faster release. They don't want to go
down the field. He can't throw down the field, and
we're just gonna sit on it. And then, of course
the pick six that happened early in the game, it
was that same concept he passed. He passed the tight
end on and said, gotcha, right.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Is that something your coaches tell you to do during
the week and say, hey, watch for this, this is
what we're gonna do. Take a chance. It's on me
if you get beat. Or is it something that the
players decide to do. Hey, I see this on film.
I'm gonna it's a discussion. It's a conversation.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Like, hey, listen, when they get outside the numbers, you know,
plus two percentage, just say they running the slant. Hey,
when they get into this formation where they're three by one,
they're probably gonna run tight end, clear out double slants
behind that.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Be ready for that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Like, it's when you go back and you watch film
and you watch because normally normally you watch if you're
if you're evaluating a team, you watch three games, right Like,
if if you're looking, if you're heading into that week,
you go back and you watch three games from a
coaching perspective, because that's gonna give you the most recent thing.
There's some change that may have happened in there. You'll
(10:56):
see some different competition. But you go back and you
watch the last three games and you just see, all right,
what's consistent, what's consistent. And then on top of that,
it's your division rival, so you see them twice a year.
So you go back and watch those three games and
then what happened the last time y'all played and what
worked well, what didn't work well, And you start finding
trends and you start finding things that you're familiar with,
(11:17):
and that's when you talk about route recognition from formation
recognition and the good ones like when you talk to
the good cornerbacks in the league or you know of
our times, they'll sit back and they'll tell you, oh,
I've seen this coverage before, or are not covers, but
I've seen this formation before. Out of this formation third down,
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they're probably running one of these one of these three routes,
because this is what history has said they've done over
the last three or four games or the last time
that we played them. And you take the educated guests
and sometimes you guess, right, But most of the time
coaches and teams, there is a there's a trend, right,
It's like we kind of know what you want to
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do and what style that you want to do it.
And that's where that's where the chess game comes in.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
When are you gonna do it? How are you gonna
do it?
Speaker 7 (12:07):
It's the chess game, and then it's the Jimmy's and
Joe's game, because you know, Nat'll tell you there were
a point time when it was like, hey, dog, we
were running low right, y'all, y'all know what's coming, but
me toy Eric step hey, listen, come get us. Yeah,
(12:28):
and we're going right, y'all, y'all know what we're doing.
But well, I'll meet you at the APEX and we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Then it just was better than you.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
You just go out, well, hey, coach, I gave it
my best, and that's what some toms happens.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That was sweet, Jess, you took a thirteen. Sweet, let's
take a break.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Let's when we come back football. If Nate can remember
anything about this logo that's on my shirt today, when
we come back.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Oh yeah, we won, got a skin of I teeth.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I remember one of his I don't remember how many
we had? Was was it three super Bowls that I won?
And that how he usually plays it off. All right,
we'll see when we come back. Hang with the Boys,
be right back.
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Speaker 4 (16:08):
We're going soon soon.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Do we want to release the schedule yet, Chris?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Or no?
Speaker 11 (16:15):
You can say when you are It's fine, Okay, we.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Will be we will be all. We will not be
here Wednesday for New Year's Day.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
We will be here.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
Why do we do something like that.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
We will be here Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Wait, we're not here tomorrow.
Speaker 13 (16:26):
No, we're here tomorrow, Wednesday, Wednesday, we will New Year's
Day watch football.
Speaker 11 (16:31):
Please.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
We'll be here Thursday and Friday and Friday will be
our last daily show until training camp. I guess we
go two weekly starting next week. So next week next week,
no Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We will be Thursdays at one
pm Central.
Speaker 11 (16:50):
Time, Thursdays at one pm Central.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Once per week.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Now you see what lack of playoff do that?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Man? You know what, just got.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
A little more shout You never know when your last game.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
That is true. But I tell folks all like, oh Jesse,
you a hater. You will never say nothing do around
I go.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Nobody enjoys wants them to win more than us.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
That's right, you said on the show? What said they
don't win?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I don't get cut short and I don't win.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
I'm trying to remodel the bathroom.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
What's the different between a contract player, a short term player,
and a long term player? Commas that's been a short
term player. You get a chance to show who you
are so you can get along.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Speaking of we were we were talking about it was
kind of enjoyable to watch the the fight in the game.
If you saw some of the behind fight, was that
behind the scenes videos like the Big One, the Big
one that they actually went to the ground and dog
piled each other and took the refs out.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Shout out the junior he was trying to pull the
ref slegs from underneath the pile.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Was trying to help the ref. Yeah, Junior was like
really like literally.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Like trying to help the ref, like help the ref
get up left legs underneath the pile, and he couldn't.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Get out, like he was trapped in a car. Was
like trapped undereath that.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
There's one video I want.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
I want to thank the police officers the way getting
the way.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
You never see your feet that quick, not getting involved,
y'all handle it.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
We we take care of the stance.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Yeah, that's the thing that's not always been crazy to
me and pro sports, Like you beat the hell out
of somebody like that on the street, you go to jail,
you beat the hell out of somebody like that in
the hockey game or a basketball game, football game, baseball game.
You just go to the locker room, you know, and.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
It's it's checked, like check.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
That's what I was going to talk about, because we
were talking about that break, like a couple of those
guys that that got involved, what's that fine look like?
Because for everybody doesn't know, Jesse kind of tell everybody
what the fight was, who was involved.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
And then so it was a dB from the from
the I guess d from the twenty one Brown was
the last name? Was his last name Brown? It doesn't,
but they got to it. They got into a little
kerf fluffle. Uh and the Cowboys Jalen Brooks and I
don't even know who the other dude was.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I never heard of him, Chris. Do you know who
he was? Was he a practice squad guy?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
They brought up?
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Who the guy who got fined?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
The guy who else got thrown out? Jalen Brooks? And
who else the.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
Guy who got thrown out is Jalen Brooks? And Uh,
it touched. It's not Polk, It's.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
He's asking pride.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
He just got he just got brought up.
Speaker 11 (19:53):
Yeah, pride just got brought up to the practice squad.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And so we were talking about this, like, oh, you
get fined for stuff like that, do you okay?
Speaker 13 (20:02):
So I have the list if you want to know
how much you got five let's hear it. Thirty nine thousand,
five hundred and one dollars. That's for fighting. I don't
know if it's extra for getting thrown out of the game,
but I think fighting is automatical ejection.
Speaker 11 (20:14):
That's your first.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Offense, and you you just got brought up from the
practice squad. How much do those practice squad guys make
per game?
Speaker 13 (20:21):
Well, I think they get the they get the minimum,
they get like the they get a minimum check for
getting called up, so they get like the veterroom minimum check.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
So I don't know what that is.
Speaker 13 (20:31):
There's no way it's six hundred and sixty six thousand though,
because that's how my style, because so that's what it is.
Thirty nine thousand would be six hundred something. It's like, yeah,
thirty nine thousand, five hundred one dollars is like, is
like six hundred and sixty six thousand.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So he actually paid to play in the Gay Yes,
he played.
Speaker 11 (20:48):
It was a w rec game for him. He actually paid.
He paid his dea, he paid playing, He paid him
and Jaylen he probably he's probably paying for next week too,
because if.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
You just got called up, not counting anybody's pockets, but
less say his check is forty thousand, that's before you
get hit with that Philadelphia state tax. And for those
of you that don't know NFL players and professional athletes,
that's to say, we have to pay what they call
an entertainment tax.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
All entertainers, all correct, So singers singers a concert tax.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Basically, when we go from state to state, even though
our home base is Texas where there's no state income tax,
because we go and perform in these other states, we
pay and that check we have to pay that state's
tax representative whatever that representative of the tax number. So
(21:44):
when you're in New Jersey playing against and MetLife, which
MetLife is in New Jersey, you're playing the Jets of
the Giants, you play, you pay on that check New
Jersey state tax. When you play in Philadelphia, you pay
Silvania state tax.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
You go and play the.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Chargers or the Niners or any one of those teams,
you're playing California state tax.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
It's flip.
Speaker 13 (22:09):
By the way, cities have taxes to East ruther for
New Jersey has a tax and entertainment taxes.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But it's flip though, if they come here, you don't
pay taxes.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
No, when you play your home games, my home games,
I am in the state that I'm playing against, so
I don't pay anything.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
But if Philly comes here and play, correct, they don't
pay state tax.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
They love playing in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, now there's tax city tax like the state. The
worst California, Jersey. Go neck and neck. Now they get
they get, they get down and dirty neck.
Speaker 13 (22:39):
There's there's a there's a big reason why a lot
of these huge contracts have a signing bonus and you
have like your salary right because your salary is the
one that gets taxed. Yes, not your signing bonus that
you you signed, that's that get taxed by the state
you're in.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
So there's some there is some like going around there.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, show hey, So what happens is and you get
called up, Like I said roughly, Pride was his last name.
He's probably making forty forty three thousand per game per game, so.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
He had to pay to play this game. He had
to pay.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
He's lost this entire check and it's probably gonna tap
into his next check if he's activated.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
If he's activated next week.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Wow, I saw.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I don't remember what the company was, but they they
were it was a financial advising company and they were
talking to young athletes in college and they were explaining
they had him in the in the team meeting room,
the big meeting room, and you know, they were like,
some of you guys are going to you know, the NFL.
Some guys are getting an il deals. Let me break
(23:54):
your money down for you. He said, let's just say
you make a million dollars, which is a good living,
and he started breaking it down and taking money out, like, okay,
right off the top, forty percent gone.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Well yeah, because you're in a different tax bracket. Now, yeah,
they hit you. They hit you a little harder, they
hit you a little harder in that tax bracket.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, He's like, so forty percent is gone.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Then you're gonna have to have an agent, and then
the agent's gonna take let's say ten more percent.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
So right there, not.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
In the league, not the league, not in the league.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
But he was just knocking it off, right, I'm just saying,
I'm just because like there's a difference because there's some
kids in college is getting hit with a crazy cost
for these firms that's doing it. But in the league,
the most your agent, the very max, your agent can
get three percent on your contract. Now your marketing deals,
your outside football stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Where they have to go hustle, that can get up
to twenty percent. Yeah wow, that can.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
That can go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah, that can get that can get out of control
because they got to hustle there.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Yeah, but you're NFL money because they're bringing you that
your NFL money by NFL PA NFL rule is the max.
Max is the max, and that's negotiable depending on who
you are, who's your agency.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Well, but that's the max I'll get on the country.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
You know you're gonna get fifty fifty million dollars signed.
As you tell us, you know, I can get somebody
else to do this deal. You started negotiation right there.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Yeah, but now, but but now here's something else that
is also kind of contractual type situation. Let's just say,
for example, Shannon, you're my agent, right, so you're my agent,
and uh, we start working on a deal. Okay, but
I fire you, Yes, I fire you, and I go
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hire natives of my agent.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I still get my money.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
You still you still are required a percentage that deal.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
For initiating the deal.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Yes, wow, yeah, So if you if you were there
when I started my deal and I fired you, you
still are or I don't know what the exact percentage is,
but you get a percentage still of that deal.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Now if I fire are you like if I'm if
I'm if I'm.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Heading into the season and it's a contract year and
I fire you before the season is over.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
We're done. But you already got your money that you
started for.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
If you started talks, if.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
You started talking to negotiation with and I didn't like it,
whatever and I fired you, you're still entitled to a
percentage of the deal that whoever goes forward makes.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Wow. Yeah, it was. It was crazy though.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I was like, and you know, he was knocking it down,
and you're gonna do this for your mom and then
you're gonna have this person that's gonna do this, and
then you got this and then you have to pay
this and you and those kids eyes.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
That were just like and that's why I always why
we really lost this game, dude, we talking about money. Yeah,
this football game is done in a minute.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
And that's another thing I always I always get on,
like you see a lot of times on social media,
is that you see these guys they come out, you know,
drafted and they're just like, you know, I bought my
mom a brand new car in the house. I'm like
that said, that's that's at times anywhere between three four,
five hundred thousand dollars. And the one who got hit
like that was like real hard. Was a guy A
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couple of years ago, the Washington Commanders drafted the guy
the Lsu Juice Darius Juice or something like that, and
he was like, bought his mom a jag truck and
a brand new house. And I'm like, dude, you you
were like a second round pick. You're still in your
first rookie deal. Like you buy your mama and him
a house and all that. When you get that on
your second second deal. A second deal is where you
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kind of really set up for life. But when you
buy that, you know, even if you're a first round pick,
like you got to live off that forever, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
And if you don't make it, that's your money. That's
all you got to tell you, that's all you get.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
And that joker was buying man and he got hurt,
blew his knee out, and I ain't seen him since.
We ain't seen him since.
Speaker 9 (27:49):
And you know what, So, you know what's so disheartening
is the people he went out and helped and did
all of that.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You know what they gonna you know what they tell
you know what they told him.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Now that all this stuff getting repossessed, Why did you
think about that? And that's what if y'all listen to nothing.
Jesse said, please listen to what he just said at
the end. Be careful about these people you're taking care
of because you basically took care of them through college,
(28:23):
just before the whatever. Nowadays, that is it you really
taking care of them? Now, budget your money. I talked
to Diann a lot about that.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Well.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
He tried to tell his kids, this right here is
the beginning. It can be the beginning of the end
or the beginning of something special. Now players have no
reason to say I never had that type of money before.
You're in college and a lot of them getting nice money.
He tried to tell learn to budget, learn to tell
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your family no.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
No, and oh tell them heck no until you get
that second deal and.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
You really really really really get paid.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
But yeah, man, that that's But the guy like like
like Taylor Brooks, who I believe is on league minimum,
guy like Pride, who I believe is on league minimum.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I mean, come on in here, ladies, what do you do.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
They're just like, come on, we don't want to do
the show.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Get over there, get on talking money. He can help
them too.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Yeah, we talked.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
We're just talking about how you know, the find that
these players are gonna get forget through out of the
game they can't afford.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Isn't as much as what they're good to. Everybody introduced
yourself Nicole.
Speaker 14 (29:42):
H team reporter and this is.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Design.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Yeah you got newly was like double cup, this is
not no.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, so what do y'all doing down in the basement?
What do y'all y'all drove by, and then Nate in
Nate fashion, was like, come on, come on, come.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
On videos okay to yeah, talk about work, about the game.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah, how do y'all feel about the game.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
That's why we talk the money exactly?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Well, she never met her Mike. She didn't like you.
Speaker 14 (30:18):
Only because one of his contract is he don't make
a lot of money, like you.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Said, So why do you feel bad for him?
Speaker 14 (30:23):
Because he's basically gonna be playing for free?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
So why do you feel bad for him?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I feel bad?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
Okay, come on, I'm asking the questions.
Speaker 14 (30:30):
When you start to like cover this team, you obviously
start building relationships with a lot of the guys, you know.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
But you like, you didn't have to fight, you didn't
like you took that Like that's my thing is like,
at some point in time, where does the point what
is the what is it?
Speaker 10 (30:44):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Thanks?
Speaker 14 (30:48):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
It's like it's like.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Turn this on, absolutely, turn this on, Like what what
were you fighting for?
Speaker 14 (30:55):
There was no reason to fight. However, I still stand
by me feeling bad for jail because gonna be playing
for free. You gotta be smart. You have to be
smart in those situations. Absolutely, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I never got it.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I wasn't doing all that fighting. Man, I'm tired.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
I didn't even know. Even back then, I didn't know.
I was like you, I was like, dude, to push me.
I'll be like, yo, man, that's if I If I
fight you, that constituted three or three plays, I'm a miss.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
So I'm not messing with you.
Speaker 14 (31:27):
But wait, let me who got in fights on y'all team?
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Kevin Gogan, Kevin Gogan and Kevin Gogan. Kevin Gogan was
gonna fight almost every game. Yeah, and they want there
gonna be no flags and then we just break it up.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
And you know my teams.
Speaker 15 (31:46):
It was Dez Tyler, Patman, No, it was Mark Colombo yeah,
and Keith Brooking.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Keith used to fight.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Yeah he's a crazy dude, bro, nice guy.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
No, he's not he's not. Wow, No I thought listen,
I don't thought. I had to fight Keith one time
in practice. I didn't want to be no be so
I stood my ground. But on the inside, I don't
really want to fight him.
Speaker 14 (32:15):
So then what do you tell your teammate when they
make dumb decisions like that?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
You you don't have to you don't have to know.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
I'm saying it.
Speaker 11 (32:22):
I'm feeling sorry for Jamie.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Brus I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
Like making nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars this year.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
He can take the other guy.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
I'm sad the other guy sorry.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
For I remember.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I remember we were.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Telling me to feel sorry for.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
When we were playing or Lemon.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I remember Loco the State, Yeah he was.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
He was the other dead Bryant handler. He played linebacker
forth and Ory Lemon in a play in the.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Preseason great name, by the way, had an aregeous I
mean absolutely a goageous late hit on a quarterback and
they wore his pockets out.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
That fine that he got, now it was more than
he made. He was playing for free. But whatever it was,
it was an egregious penalty that didn't have to happen,
and so when it's pending that don't have to happen,
like I get sometime being in the heat of the games,
you know you could your safety you come down, or
your your your defensive end you're rushing. But when there's
egregious and you don't have to do it, like Jalen
(33:28):
Brooks didn't have to get into a fight.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
You could have said your piece, maybe mushed them.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
He mushed you back, whatever, go to the sideline, but
you y'all carried it into the tunnel, knocked over, a
ref got thrown out. I'm thinking, like that's going through
my mind. I'm like for I don't want to fight nobody.
I'm like whatever, But I'm always thinking about when the referee?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
When, the when?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
The when?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
When?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
For us it was, uh, it was Tony the Hill Thrill.
He works for the NFL and covers the Cowboys. When
Tony Thrill Hill comes down before the in the pregame
and they get the list to to Buckie and one
of them, and Bucky goes.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
He's the uniform, beutiful.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
When he goes, Holly, pull your socks up. You ain't
got to tell me twice. These socks gonna be in
order to Yeah, like, oh, you know, that's what happens.
Like Tony comes into Tony the three Hill comes out
there and he's looking on the che checking everybody uniform.
Speaker 13 (34:19):
So I looked up Pride salary. Okay, first of all,
I don't feel sorry for him anymore. Okay, he's made
two point five million.
Speaker 11 (34:24):
Over this his career.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Okay, but he.
Speaker 13 (34:28):
Is only making sixty two thousand news year for the Cowboys.
So that's thirty nine thousand this year. Yeah, this year
per game or the well because he came in late, right,
so he's un practice squad r right, So.
Speaker 11 (34:40):
But he will that will escalate. You'll have a contract
that escalates if he gets called.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Up right now.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
The grunt thing is so they can only truly really
find you if I'm not mistaken if you're on the
active roster.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Like the money only comes out if you're on the
active roster.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
So if he goes back to the practice squad, they
won't take his practice squad check if I'm not mistaken to.
Speaker 13 (35:02):
Take his check from the game this game, check this game,
this game, this check is.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
He and there talking talking to Todd?
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Hey, please send me back, Please send me back down.
Speaker 11 (35:11):
So well he will get we'll get sent back down.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
Well if he can sit back down, but if he
gets elevated again next week, whatever's left over.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
Yeah, they'll take care of They're gonna get that too.
I'd be like, hey, I didn't know that.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
No, no, no, no, no, you cannot feel sorry for guy.
If this was a rookie we were talking about. I'm
with you. This guy been in the league.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
He's a twenty one no joint.
Speaker 11 (35:36):
He's a journey yay.
Speaker 13 (35:37):
No, no, you play Carolina a journey.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Yeah, you don't do stupid. I got fine, Well, he
asked Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 14 (35:46):
This is your two friends.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
I got fined one time. This is the I told
you got this honest, got true. I got fined one
time nine thousand, nine hundred and sixty one dollars and
seventy nine cents.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
He remembers the sense how much.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Nine thousand, nine hundred seven one dollars sixty nine cents.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
I cried.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
I went to Jason Garrett and ten thousand for I said, listen, coach,
can we talk about this. I'm always on time, like
and I got I had the one time I was
late because I got fined for technically missing a meeting
and being late to a meeting because the team meeting
(36:23):
with thirty seconds. Coach came in there was like, I gods,
have a good day, right break it to your groups
team meeting. I missed it. And then I came in
five minutes late to the special team meeting meeting, same
look back to back, and it was like, yeah, I
got to envelope my lock.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
And I was like, what did he work with you?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
No, Jason didn't work with you.
Speaker 14 (36:45):
No, you still had to come off the nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
Thank god.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
So I was so upset.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
I was so upset, I went crying, you know, I
wide receive position meeting.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I was so mad. I was hang ground. Was like,
I do everything right.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
I show up on time, I'm in the weight room,
I do every I'm like I'm chasing des around here
for them.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
I do everything right. You still find you.
Speaker 11 (37:04):
Went to the wires room and you find out what
was in that bag, and you.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Know, and and and Roy cut me a check. Roy
Williams gave me ten thousand. God, Roy Williams gave me
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 11 (37:14):
He's the man, he said.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
You're absolutely right, bro, And he gave me ten grand.
He really, he literally he literally wrote me a check
for ten thousand dollars. Wow, And I stopped crying.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I think I got fined one time, you.
Speaker 11 (37:26):
Said him at Christmas President, I did?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
I did get that year.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
I would have I did.
Speaker 11 (37:31):
It wouldn't be ten thousand worth of Christmas.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
But he's still my friend. I called him right and hey,
brore you doing good. I'll never forget.
Speaker 9 (37:37):
That forty five hundred or seventy five hundred. I don't
know what it was. And I don't even know what
I got fined about. But uh, back then a while,
but I said, wasn't gonna be it?
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Was it that Friday morning? You know that Friday morning?
Wait checking, now you know what it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Could have been? That forty seven fifty seven thousand found?
Speaker 11 (37:55):
Okay, what year was this, Jesse?
Speaker 4 (37:57):
And uh?
Speaker 11 (37:58):
What year was what the year he did this to you?
The gave it gave you?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah? It was how many years out that he said.
Speaker 11 (38:06):
I'm trying to find out how much Roy was making
that year?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (38:09):
You know, had Roy had money? Roy? I mean he
had signed.
Speaker 13 (38:12):
A he was making fourteen point six million that year.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
He could he could he could cut it, he could
cut the check.
Speaker 11 (38:20):
He made fifty four million over.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I was with you and they said twenty twenty one.
That dude, you stupid man.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Come on, bro, you gotta take a break so we
get fined.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah, let's take a break. We'll come back and talk
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you got anything about the game?
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Shout out to rico'dell reached a thousand yards, the first
undrafted running back in Cowboys history to reach the thousand
yard mark. That's big. That's big for Rico. We're talking
about money like to to be a running back in
today's football, and even how the season went for him
kind of like running back by committee, not running back
(42:03):
by committee. Give him ten carriers, give them eight carriers,
give them and he still was able to muster out
a thousand yards. That add value to what would you?
Speaker 11 (42:11):
Would you keep him?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Yes, for the right price, or would you try to
get somebody in the draft?
Speaker 12 (42:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Both? What if?
Speaker 5 (42:18):
What if he's right on the right, on the edge
a little bit more than what you want to pay
him to bring him back?
Speaker 9 (42:25):
But the way you don't is you sure you're gonna
get your guy in the draft. You sure one hundred
percent that you're gonna get your guy in the draft.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Because I'm sure this year is going to be a
lot like last year. Steven's already alluded to it that
money's going to be tight. You're not gonna be able
to hang on all these guys, and they're probably going
to have a number for each guy and be like.
Speaker 11 (42:43):
Here it is.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
If you want to stay here, we want you to
hear this, but this is the number. We're not going
higher than this. I'm sure he's got a number, and
if someone offers.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
Him a little bit more, he should go.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Would you bump it up if you were the Cowboys
if it's right on the edge of you know, I mean,
because what do you have? If you don't have him,
you got nothing. You're starting from scratch.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
I think so.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
I think if it's close, I think it's the Cowboys
go ahead and pay him.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
We kind of have to, don't you, because if not,
you got nothing, and there's not really anybody going to
be out there on the open market. You already you
already know we're not going to go get somebody in
free agency or somebody it's a free agent.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
Now, you wanted to address the other guy that they
had on the Uh there's another running back that they
had on the practice squadal right, Who was it?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Chris not who played a lot last year? Not cook
Kidna who played a lot last year. Yeah, I can't
think of his name.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Chris.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
I'm talking about he slipped. I know you're talking Malik Davis. Yes, yeah,
like Malik Davis. They may say, all right, Blik, your turn.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Next up? Next?
Speaker 6 (43:42):
Is he even here? He's still here?
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Is he hurt?
Speaker 6 (43:43):
I don't even know what Milik Davis is at professional linem.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Kyle said that he would, uh if Ashton Genti's there
at fifteen, which is where the Cowboys are now. He
was like, I'm against taking a running back in the
first round, but I would look at that guy.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
So I have a big gut feeling that we're gonna
look back on the Ashing Gentz situation. It's not gonna
be that great and it's not gonna be let people
think of this.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
That's just my gut feeling.
Speaker 9 (44:06):
I'm telling you this right here, right now, time ago. Well, No,
we need to get a wide receiver, yes, Lord, And
the why in the first round?
Speaker 4 (44:13):
We need a wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
That's that's big coming from Nate, Yes, because you know
Nate's the big upfront.
Speaker 9 (44:20):
You're either gonna give us a wide receiver. Are your
quarterback and your other wide receiver gonna pay for it?
They gonna pay for it because if you're not gonna
change the coach.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
And I'm just going.
Speaker 9 (44:32):
Off with Jesse saying, and you're not gonna run a
thousand and eight hundred motions for snap?
Speaker 4 (44:38):
What are you doing?
Speaker 9 (44:39):
He's gonna line them up, run across the thing, and
they just make one or two adjustments and they got
him covered. So you either go get another wide receiver
so you can continue to run your same offense, or
you get your somebody that's gonna be a little more innovative,
because CD shouldn't. He's built to catch a hundred passes
a year, but you don't want that to be one
hundred and thirty passes a year.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
All right, let's get out of here, Fellas. Good seeing you, Jesse.
Good show with Kurt.
Speaker 9 (45:04):
Back tomorrow, good show, good financial talk to Chris Beam.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
We're keeping us on the air. Josh Jazz, thanks for
keeping him company. And the kids that's in the back,
Gray Logi and uh Presley. Yes, thanks for Chris, thanks
for running the daycare back there at the back. No,
we move back tomorrow, last show before twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Make sure you tune in.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
We'll have lots to say on hanging with the boys.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Jesse.
Speaker 13 (45:38):
Yeah today, Yeah, okay, that's us.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
So this has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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