Mishael Morgan "Harmony In Shifting Focus For Fulfillment"

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I'm Makini Smith. After going through a divorce, my
sister passing away, experiencing narcissistic abuse and some significant
health scares, I realized through sharing my story that
I wasn't alone in my suffering. Suffering, subjective distress
generated by the experience of being out of balance,
in a deep dive to holistically heal mind, body

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and soul is where I discovered peace, clarity and
connection. It is impossible to be truly wise without
some real life hardship. And we cannot develop post
traumatic wisdom without making it through and most importantly,
through it together. Social connection builds resilience and resilience

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helps create post traumatic wisdom. And that wisdom leads
to hope. Hope for you and others, witnessing and
participating in your healing and hope for your community.
A healthy community is a healing community. And a
healing community is full of hope because it has
seen its own people weather, survive and thrive. Michelle

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Morgan is an Emmy award winning actress, mother of
two and a wife. She made history as the
first black woman to win a Daytime Emmy in
the lead actress category for her work on the
Young and the Restless, where she's best known for
her roles as Hillary or Amanda. In addition to
her standout performances on the Young and the Restless,

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Michelle has made notable guest appearances in hit shows
like Chicago Med, Most Dangerous Games, Supernatural, and the
pop popular Canadian series Republic of Doyle. Expanding her
career, Michelle has recently taken on roles behind the
camera as an executive producer. She starred in and

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produced Dress for Success for Toby and the independent
film Sway, which is earning acclaim on the film
festival circuit. So please welcome to the show Michelle
Morgan. Hello. Thank you so much for saying yes
and agreeing to come on and share your story

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and your journey with us. I never take it
for granted when someone who I know because we've
all got busy lives with family and careers, but
when I know that you've got life going on,
I never take for granted that you've taken out
the time to share with us. So I truly,
truly appreciate it.
Oh, well, thank you. I mean, I think that

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it's so important for us as women to share
our stories. So thank you for the opportunity to
share our stories and to inspire and to uplift
each other and connect each other more and more.
Thank you. Thank you. I love to start the
show with an icebreaker question because I feel like
I get to know a little bit more about
who you are and where your mindset comes from.
Go back to your childhood before we even get

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to where you are presently.
Okay.
Oh, because you know, as kids they have these
vivid imaginations of who or what they want to
be when they get older. And, you know, that's
before society or culture or our families unintentionally start
to limit our beliefs of what is possible. So
I would love to know, you know, who or
what did you want to be as a little

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girl, and what is your earliest childhood memory that
defines who you are today?
Ooh, okay. What I wanted to be when I
was a little girl. So Since I was 5,
I would say that I wanted to be a
lawyer. But it's funny because when you say that,
you know, life influenced you and your parents and
your family influence you, I think I was already
influenced by them. Even by that age. I don't

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think I really knew exactly what I wanted to
be, but I knew that I was really good,
I was really witty, and I was really good
at arguing and making adults, you know, kind of
question their own way of thinking. So I was
like, yeah. And my dad would always say, stop
it. You're being a little lawyer. So by the
time I was five or six, that was my

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answer when anybody asked me what I wanted to
be was a lawyer. And I spent my. The
better part of my life working towards that goal.
My earliest memory of. What did you say? You
said, my earliest memory of what.
Defines who you are today.
Oh. Huh. Well, that would probably be when I.

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Huh. I'm getting a little emotional. It'd probably be
when I. I moved to Canada and we had
settled. We were in Scarborough and we were going
to a school in Scarborough. And I just, I
just kind of started at the school and I
felt really discombobulated. Like I moved from Trinidad where,
you know, we had. Our family was a little
more wealthy. We had, you know, you had maids

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in Trinidad. We went to private school. We were
a little more sheltered. And then we moved to
Canada and we were like, sleeping on the floor
and we were, you know, my parents were trying
to find jobs and we became like latchkey kids
and we were, you know, between five and seven
and walking home by ourselves and like, going to
this school was very jarring because it was people

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in very similar situations, but I just felt a
little bullied a little. I became very introverted. So.
So I felt like I changed a lot. I
felt like when I was a kid, I would
sing and dance. And I remembered this very vivid
shift that happened in my life where I kind
of went inwards. And it was definitely at that

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school because during recess I couldn't play with my
sister because of. Because of our age difference. She
was in a separate yard. So I felt very
alone and Isolated. And I remembered talking to God
a lot, and that's, like, my earliest memory. I
think that to this day, every time I'm in
a. I'm in a place in my life where

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things feel a little shaky and my ground feels
shaky underneath me. It's the one. The one con.
Those. It's those conversations with God that always ground
me and remind me. Okay, we're good. Let's keep
going.
You're going to make me cry. I'm an empath.

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I cry a lot. So just know I'm a
cancer, so.
I cry all the time, but only in my.
Only alone in my room. So this is very
uncomfortable for me or on camera.
Thank you for the honesty. I always appreciate, and
I know that the listeners do as well when

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people share their honest truths. I feel like, because
social media and the society that we live in
with influencers, all these things were so used to
seeing people put on or put on this mask
or, you know, only show the highlight reel. And
I think the beauty of what I love about
even having these conversations with the podcast is the
realness of getting to know people on a real

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level, getting to know the stories behind the people
that we are inspired by. Getting to see that
you are human just like the rest of us,
you know, and just how more or how much
more we are alike than we are different.
Oh, that's like. Yeah, that's what I say all
the time. We're more alike than we are different.
And that's a lot of the storytelling that I

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want to continue to do when I have more
control over the stories that I get to tell.
But it's really kind of emphasizing that message that
we're more alike than we are different. And there
is so much energy, I think, right now in
the world where everybody is trying so hard and
muscling so hard to put on this face, and
we're forgetting that authenticity is what connects us. And.

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Yeah, and absolutely, yeah, I. I learned.
A long time ago, which is why I think
I've become okay with kind of being, you know,
an outcast in certain environments is the more that
we are being our true selves, the more that
we attract people who are like us and repel
people who are not. So, you know, sometimes I
have clients that will come to me, and they're

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in their feelings because they feel like they've lost
friendships or connections or so on as they've evolved.
And it's like, you are now like, we're walking
magnets, you know, you have now attracted the people
that are meant to be around you, that are
more like you, that are resonating the same vibration
of you, that have the same. That are just
basically in alignment with you, and you're repelling the

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people who are not. And that's okay. Like, not
everyone is meant, you know, to be connected to
us.
And you need that space like you need that
time. Sometimes it's really sad because you go through,
I think, times in your life where you feel
like it's. It's very. It's like a desert, you
know, it's very barren, where you're like, oh, where
are all my friends and my family? And everybody's

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kind of pushing, pushing away a little bit, and
you feel a little isolated, similar to like when
I was a child. But I feel like those
times are so important. So you have to find
your tools and your mechanisms to get through those
times, because that is allowing you to connect with
the people that you need in your life. But
if you don't allow that those times to pass
through you and sit in it, then you'll start

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and you just kind of fight against it and
you just want to keep moving and you want
to just connect with anybody, even though you know
that you're not settled, then I feel like that's
when you start getting out of alignment and that's
when you start connecting with and going down paths
that you shouldn't be going down and connecting with
people that you shouldn't be connecting with. So the.
The more willing you are to sit in that

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in those times of isolation and quote, unquote, loneliness,
you know, people will think they're so lonely, but
it is. It is a time of, I think,
healing. And then that's when you charge up that
magnet and you start connecting to all of the
people and the places that you're supposed to, you
know, be connected to, especially when you're supposed to
keep vibrating at a higher and higher level. So,

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yeah, it's going to happen many times in your
life. I think I'm going through it right now.
I get it. And. Okay, so I guess I
want to touch on a couple of things that
you mention. So I know that a lot of
the women in my network and a lot of
women that have come on the podcast talk about
how their childhood, especially if they migrated here or

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if they're first generation Canadians or Americans, how that
affected them and how that affected who you became
in the direction of life that you took or,
you know, how that affected your interactions with people
as a whole. So having come from Trinidad, then
Coming to Canada and being treated differently, like, I

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guess. How do you feel that that has impacted
you now as an adult?
Well, I think on a positive level, I feel
like it has made me more adaptable, for sure.
And my life, I look at everything I do
in my life, you know, being an actor, traveling,
relocating to la, you know, anytime the phone rings,

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it can be a job that can shake up
my entire life. And my ability to be adaptable
is really what will allow me to be successful,
because there's times where I need to read. Like,
being on a soap helped me with that as
well. But coming from Trinidad, I think it gave
me a leg up. So when I got to
the soap, everybody was like, how are. How do
you learn your line so quickly? And all of

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this stuff? And I'm like, well, I think it
was just from my childhood. I had to adapt
because when I moved. When I moved so young,
my whole world changed, and I had to figure
out how to navigate this new world very quickly.
And I learned that skill when I'm young. So
I'm. I think that that gave me a little
bit of edge. So I think, you know, us
as immigrants, like, we have superpowers. Like, we. That.

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That resilience, that adaptability is, like, it's ingrained in
us. It's something that we learn when we're so
young. And, you know, when you learn lessons when
you're young, those things transform you and stick with
you. And you're like, I learned how to be
adaptable and resilient when I was five. Well, then
that's a superpower, because you just spent the rest
of your life, you know, ahead of the game.

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Yeah, I love that. I love that. There was
another question I was going to ask you related
to something that you said, but I now I
can't remember. So I guess we'll go into what
inspired you to become an actress, because you talked
about, you know, spending your whole life prepping to
be a lawyer. So what inspired the pivot? How

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did you get into acting?
So where. How do I. Where do I start
with that? So when I was 10, that's when
I think that's when I got the acting bug
that everybody talks about. I think that was the
first time that I was doing something that I
was like, this is the funnest thing I've ever
done.
And this made me feel really alive in a

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way that I've never felt alive. It was almost
like when I told you when I was younger
and I went inwards and I became very introverted
When I got to Canada, it felt like it
was the first time that I was able to
open up a little bit in a way. And
this. It just. I could feel the vibration in
my body, how I just loved being on the
stage. And I was about 10 years old, and

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we moved to a school in Mississauga that they
did an annual play every year.
And everybody in the school was involved. So it
was a small school, 200 kids. But for art,
you know, for arts and crafts period, everybody would
be, like, painting and making sets, you know, for,
like, music they would be singing, or some of
them would be in the choir so that would,

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like, be added to their thing. And some people
were learning how to do backstage stuff. And. And
you can. Everybody can audition for the play.
And that's when we did Joseph and the Amazing
Technical or Dreamcoat. And that's when I was like,
yeah, this is special. But my initial, like, response
was, I never felt like that could ever be
a job. I was like, this is awesome. This
is cool. I love doing this. I want to

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do this. I remember begging my parents to just
go to acting classes and, you know, and I
would look in the paper for anything cheap that
I could find so that I can go and
just like, act and do acting classes and do
stuff.
And. But I never, ever, on any level, took
it seriously. I just liked it as an outlet.
Because I remembered when I was in grade eight,
a friend of mine was like, I'm going to

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audition for the arts high school. And I'm like,
really? Why are you going to do that? And
she was just like, you should do it. You
should audition. And I'm like, no, I'm going to
be a lawyer. Like, it was like, I was
conditioned that, like, that was the only path to
go down. I'm an immigrant. I can't just, like,
roll the dice. I'm going to be an actor.
How many people actually become actors? Like, that's not
a real job. And then I went to high

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school, and my acting teacher was like, she was
amazing. She was also my English teacher. She was
also a little hard on me, but she was
like, oh, like, I'll help you with your audition
for university. I'm like, what audition? She's like, well,
you're going to audition for the arts program, right?
I'm like, no, I'm going to be a lawyer.
And she's like, well, you can. You can audition.
You could double major as an actor and as

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a lawyer. And I'm like, no, I'm doing a
double major. Honors program, so I can't do anything
else. And she's like, so you're just not going
to. I was like, yeah, no, this is. That's
it. I'm going to law school. And then when
I got into university, I did acting for non
majors in my first year.
And then my second year of university. That was
the first time that I'd never acted for the

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whole year since I was a child, because I
always had kind of that outlet and that was
the first time that I felt this thing missing
a little bit. So, like, even though I never.
I've never pursued it career wise, I felt like
I always had it there. Like, you know, I
could always go to acting class or there was
like a play that we were doing at school
or there was some way to access it.

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And that was the first time that they were
like, if you're not a major, there is no
acting. Like, there's nothing else you can do in
university if you're not in the, like, acting for
majors program. So I was like, okay. And then
a year after. Yeah, when I was 19, and
then I got in a car accident, I broke
my neck.
Oh, wow.
And. And then I heard God's voice because I

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sat there and I said, okay. They said, 10%
more pressure. I can be paralyzed from the neck
down. And I was waiting for them to do
the surgery. And it happened in Trinidad. So it
was like. That's why I say when I went
back home to Trinidad, I was like reborn again.
Because while I was waiting in that hospital for
about five days, while they were trying to figure
out, you know, how they were going to, like,

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who was going to do my surgery.
And my dad didn't trust the surgeon and he
went to the Canadian embassy to get information on
better surgeons. And while they were trying to figure
that all out, I had a lot of time
to think and that kind of lonely time in
my life again where I felt very alone and
isolated. I just go back and I have a
lot of long conversations with God and. And it's

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funny because before that, a few years earlier, I
kind of wrote God off, like right about, right
before high school a little bit.
I think people go through this and I was
like, I am doing everything that I'm supposed to
be doing. I'm supposed to be a lawyer. And
like, I'm working hard, I'm studying. And it's like
any time that there's a chance for something to
go awry, it keeps going awry. Like, I don't

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understand. Like, I remember this Specific moment where I
had to do this presentation, and I prepped everything,
and I was so ready to go.
And then it was something so random. Like, I
called to make sure that they had the. The
video recording that I needed to put in my
presentation. And when I went there, they said they
already rented it. This was back when it was,
like, Blockbuster. So they said the movie was already

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rented, but then I put it on hold, so
I didn't. And I was, like, driving around the
city trying to get this.
And I just remember this feeling of, like, why
is. Does this keep happening? I'm doing everything right.
I'm, like, a good student. I'm a hard worker.
I'm a good daughter. Like, I'm not doing anything
wrong. And I'm muscle, and I feel like. And
I'm smart and I'm getting the grades, but I

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feel like I have to muscle. And I'm, like,
you know, in mud, trying to, like, get myself
to university. And I just felt so annoyed that
I couldn't get the grades that I wanted. That
being said, I was kind of like, I want,
like, not like a 90. I want, like, a
95. I was a little bit. I was a
little bit, like, imperfectionist, like, in this mindset. And

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that's when. When I. When I broke my neck
and I hadn't talked to God probably in a
few years, I was just like, yeah, well, you
know, I don't regret anything. And, you know, like,
I'm sorry. We had, like, I haven't been able
to. Like, I haven't talked to you. And I
kind of. We went through that period where I
just, like, snapped. And I said, I'm done. I'm
not praying anymore.
I'm not doing anything anymore. And then I just

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was like, yeah, but I think I'm good. I
think I'm okay. Like, I think I had a
good life. I don't have any regrets. And then
I, like, literally heard, like, a voice like, two
inches out of my ear that said, like, but
you never tried. And, like, I knew right away
that it was just, like, I never tried acting
because I had all these opportunities and all these
people that were kind of, like, rooting for me

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or expecting me to go down that path. And,
yeah, I never tried. And then I realized that
I was muscling so much for something that wasn't
really my path in this weird way.
And I was. And the things that was flowing,
which was my acting, I was ignoring as if
it was a joke and it couldn't be real.

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So that was the first time that I ever
heard God invest in something that I thought was
crazy, and I thought it was crazy.
And I said, all right, God, I don't know
why. Like, it's like I felt it so deeply,
and I just said, I don't know why you
want me to be an actor, but I'm like,
I feel like if I get a chance to

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walk again, then I'll try. And I don't know
what that means. And. And I said, that's our
deal. If you let me walk again, I'll try.
So then I walked again, obviously, and then I
tried, and then I didn't know what to do.
So I prayed again. I was like, I need
somebody to guide me because I don't know, how
do I try? Like, I'm not in high school,

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I'm not in. You know, I'm not. Like, I'm
going to keep finishing my undergrad, but, like. Like,
I don't know what to do.
Like, how do I get an agent? How do
I do this stuff? And then, like, a couple
months later, when I was bartending, I used to
bartend when I was in university, and I randomly
met my agent at the bar, and he was
like, I'm an agent. I just broke off. I

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broke off on my own. And, you know, I
just. There's something about you. I just would really
love to, like, let's sit down. I'd love to
sign. And I was like, oh, okay. And I
just remember taking his car, just being like, this
is really funny if this is you. So then
I. I called him, and then he's my agent
to this day. And that was, like, slow. Like,
as soon as my first audition, I booked a

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couple months, and I booked 10 months in, I
booked a series regular role. And then even at
that time, I didn't know how. How long people
work towards getting a serious regular role. Where I
was like 10 months in, and like, all my
other acting friends that I was meeting, they were
like, you got a serious regular role? And then
a couple months after that, I got a second
series regular role. So it was just. And. But

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right before I accepted that one, I prayed to
God and I said, God, I don't know how
to turn down. I know, like, I tried and
I did it, and it's fun and awesome, but,
like, how do I just, like, not go to
law school? Because I just got accepted to law
school and I just said, if you.
If you want me to do this, like, really

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do this. Like, I just. I need one. I
need a sign. I need to hear, and I
don't know how, but I need to hear. You're
not going to law school. And I need something
to stop me, like something big. And then I'll
know 100% that this is what you want me
to do right now.
And then I will, I promise I will turn
down my law school application and I will, I

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will not go. There was something in my, my
mind that I was like, there's no way that
that's going to happen. So I'm going to go
to law school. You know, there's no way that
I'm going to hear the words, you're not going
to law school. There's no way that there's going
to be something huge that's going to stop me.
So I'm like, I went, I leased my apartment,
got everything ready.
And then two weeks before I was going to

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law school, I got a phone call. It was
a private caller, and the voice on the other
end said, you're not going to law school. And
I was like, hello? And then, then it was
my agent and he was on speaker, so he
sounded different. It didn't even sound like his voice.
And he was like, he's like, hey, hey, rock
star, it's me, it's David, your agent.

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And yeah, so you're not going to law school.
You just booked a second series regular role that's
going to pay for your law school education. So
you're going to do this role. It's a two
and a half month shoot. You can, you can
defer it. You could go another year. You know,
we'll figure it out then. But you're not going
to law school right now. I'm like, uh huh.
My agent was like, are you excited? Are you

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happy? I'm like, yeah, I'm happy. Yeah. Okay. And
then he's like, okay, well, all right, well, you
know, like, it's good news.
I'm like, yeah, no, this is good. Okay, thank
you. I'm like, all right, bye. And I just
remember hanging up the phone, being like, I did
not think that was gonna happen. And when God

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wants something he doesn't, he's pretty, like blatant about
it. Where I was like, okay, so I guess
I'm turning down that law school application and I
gotta like, explain this to my parents and I
have to just go on this crazy journey of
being an actor, which I would never change for
the world. Like, I understand more and more every
day now why I was supposed to go down

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this path. Like the life of an Artist. This
journey has been so transformative. I would not be
the person that I am today if I was
a lawyer.
I wouldn't be. I wouldn't have the passion to
do the things that I want to do for
the world if I was a lawyer. I just.
Yeah.
Wow. I have goosebumps right now. Like, to. Again.

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Now I'm going to try not to get emotional,
so I strongly believe that. So I call them.
God whispers. It's like when you're laying there in
the bed, it was like two inches from your
ear. You heard it, right? And sometimes when he
whispers and we don't listen, God yells. So you
got that phone call since you're not going to
law school. Yeah, but the fact that you listen,

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like the obedience piece, is important because you went
from someone who didn't take acting serious to saying,
yeah, you'll give it a try, to listening to
God's direction and being obedient, to making history as
the first black woman to win a Daytime Emmy

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in the lead actress category. Yeah, like, yeah, that's
the impact that you said about making, like, globally,
like, for women, for the acting community, for black
women, for, like, the impact that you made even
in just that accomplishment. Like, there. There's so many

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accomplishments. I'm. I'm sure you have a list. But
from you being obedient, like you had. You had
something tragic happen to you. And I. I say
this all the time on the show where your
are, your pain births, your purpose. So you had
this car accident. You had this conversation with God
after not speaking to him for so long, and

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then you were obedient to what he told you.
And now living and making such an impact and
being a representation for so many things, like, I
guess. How does. How did that moment impact you
personally and professionally?
Which one?
Like, making history as the first black woman to

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win a Daytime Emmy personally.
It was just kind of like a confirmation of
what God wanted for me because. And it confirmed
kind of things that I felt inside of me
about why I was, you know, on this journey
and the level of impact that God wanted me
to have through being an actor. And I felt

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like, yeah, so for me, it just confirmed a
lot of that. And it was just a real
level of trusting myself more and more because I
didn't go to.
I was. I'm huge in academia, and I never
went to school for acting, you know, so the
fact that my career is something that I never
studied, it's just something that's a little more inherent

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in me. It's always Been something that I've always
had imposter syndrome, a little bit with it where
I'm like, I'm just. I don't know what I'm
doing here. But, you know, you tell. You give
me the lines, I just go out there and
say them, you know, however, I, you know, feel
like they should be said. So going to YR
and going on that whole journey gave me that
opportunity to kind of shake that off and not

(26:31):
have that imposter syndrome. And standing up there and
accepting that award kind of confirmed that I no
longer walk with that kind of on my shoulders,
that, you know, I don't belong here.
So. And then on a professional level, I think
it gave me. It gave me the confidence that
I needed to now say that the next chapter

(26:53):
that I feel like God has for me, I'm
willing to walk through that door without, you know,
the yelling and the yelling at me and the
phone calls and all of the signs, you know,
like, I just need little signs, and I just
need to, like, hear it in my intuition now.
And then I know that I'm supposed to go
that way because I decided to leave Y and

(27:13):
R six months before I won the Emmy. So
six months before I won, I was like. I
already felt like God was like, you know, I
want you to go down this path.
And I decided. I was like, okay, I'm going
to go. I'm going to. This is the best
time in history to be a black woman in
Hollywood. And there's so many of our stories that
are being told from different lenses. That has never

(27:36):
happened, ever. And so many opportunities for black women
in front and behind the camera that I just
felt like I needed to kind of. I had
to take advantage of this opportunity. And me being
an. Me being a lawyer would have been playing
it safe. And that's why I became an actor
in the first place. And then me staying on
the soap during that time, I felt like would

(27:58):
have been me playing it safe as well. So
that's when I said, you know what? I'm going
to go out there. I don't know what I'm
doing, and I'm going to try and start producing
things, and I'm going to put myself out there
and attract more roles that might give me a
little more clout so that I can have more
control over my vision and over my style of
storytelling.
And I left. And then. Yeah, then six months

(28:19):
later, like, a couple months later, I got the
nomination for the Emmy. And then I just kind
of was like, I don't Know, am I actually
gonna. I don't know if this is actually, like.
And then there was something in me that I
was like, no, this is it. This. I'm like,
I'm. I'm winning this thing.
I just, There was something inside of me that
I just knew that I was gonna win it.
And when I did, I felt like it confirmed

(28:41):
for me that, you know, this was the direction
that my career needed to take, you know, on
a personal level, for me to kind of go
back to Toronto and kind of reconnect with, I
think, who I, Who I was, who started this
journey. And then, yeah, and then allowing. Taking that
break from my career and allowing myself to kind

(29:01):
of reinvent myself in a little, in a kind
of a way. But, you know, it's. It's terrifying.
That's why I'm like, I still feel like I'm
going through a bit of that, like, that lonely
period again in my life at this stage where
I'm like, I just gave up in a pretty
cushy career, great job, left, you know, the home
that I've been.
You know, I grew with my husband and my

(29:22):
kids for the past 10 years and decided to
come back to Toronto and kind of essentially start
again from scratch because, you know, there is really
no huge star system in Toronto. I hope that
some, at some point there might, that might change.
But, you know, when you come back to Toronto,
there is still an element of like, okay, well,
you know, well, we still want you to come
out and audition for this and audition for that.

(29:43):
And, you know, I've gotten some great offers and
I've worked on some great projects, but it definitely
feels like while the strike happened right after I
left too, so I'm like, okay, I don't know.
God, was this really the plan? I don't know.
This feels a little shaky. But again, he's always
kind of showed up for me where I always,

(30:03):
I felt supported my whole time that I left
Winr and I've been out here, but I think
it's a lot of it has been the juggle
with my mind of, like, trying to kind of
remind myself that I am.
That I am supported by the universe. And so
all of that winning and giving me the confidence

(30:25):
to leave, I think has brought me to that
place where now I get a chance to kind
of rediscover and heal other parts of myself at
the same time.
Wow. Now I have, like, so many questions. I'm
like, okay, which one do I, I go with
first? Like, I, I. There's so much that you
said that. I. I kind of want to unpack,
but obviously, in the interest of time, I. I
can't unpack at all, but I guess. Okay, so

(30:48):
you. You spoke about stepping behind the camera, so
I would love to know how that's changed your
perspective on storytelling.
I think. I don't know if it's really changed
my perspective. I think it's just allowed me to
connect to the lens that I want to tell

(31:08):
stories through. Like, so trying to. And then, you
know, I think that it's just when you're able.
And also as an actor, when you're able to
step behind the camera, you just see how there's
so many more moving pieces, and you don't take
yourself or your performance as preciously, and you just
kind of. And I started doing this at Y
and R before I left. I shadowed a couple

(31:29):
of directors there, and. And I felt like it
gave me such a. Just a bigger grasp on
how storytelling is such a collaboration on many levels,
like, in front and behind the camera. And I
think the idea of storytelling, I don't know if
it really changed me. I think it just really.

(31:51):
It's just inspiring me more to kind of figure
out how I want to kind of put together
these stories and get them out into the world.
Mm. I. So I think about, like, you know,
we even talked about before we started recording about,
you know, being a mom and, like, all the
different roles we play in life, I guess, you

(32:12):
know, with having a busy career and family and
all those things obviously comes with life challenges. How
do you stay grounded and find balance between your
professional achievements and your personal life?
I think. Well, I pray a lot. I try
to pray, you know, every morning and every night

(32:32):
I meditate. And then I remind myself that you
have to be. You have to be easy on
yourself. You know, I think we're trying so hard
to kind of do all the things and get
all the things done, and we have to.
We feel like we've got to do all of
these things to figure out the balance. And I
think we have to get more comfortable with realizing
that sometimes our life gets very imbalanced and it

(32:55):
gets uncomfortable. And I think it's about realizing those
moments where it's too imbalanced, that now it's affecting
your ability to be aligned and connected. And that's
when you have to consciously take a step back.
Like, I think that when. When I broke my
neck in the car accident, and then also when
my retina got detached later on, those are very

(33:17):
pivotal times in my Life where I felt very
stuck. Like I had to be flat on my
back staring at ceiling for five days for them
to figure out what was going on. I had
to be in a chair after my retina detachment
surgery for, you know, two weeks, just like face
down for 50 minutes out of every hour. So
I would only get 10 minute breaks. And so

(33:39):
it was a lot of, like, reflecting that would
happen during that time.
And I think during that time it would allow
me to get back into balance. I would really,
I started to really realize, you know, what was
important to me, what direction I needed to take,
where I needed to go. But it was a
forced level of reconnecting and slowing down. And now
that I've gotten older, now that I see that

(34:01):
in those times, it's like I appreciated those times
and those moments that God gave me.
But now, as an individual and as a person
that's healed and is in a different place in
their healing, I'm realizing that in order to stay
aligned and to stay balanced and connected, it's about
realizing when you're out of balance and figuring out
and how to take a step back and do
something to get yourself aligned. So for me, I.

(34:22):
I went on a wellness retreat this year, which
was awesome. And I just went by myself. And
as a mom, this is one thing that I
want every mother to know. It is the most
amazing thing to travel by yourself. It doesn't have
to be a long trip, you know, two, three,
four, five days. But I went on a, I
went for. It was a three day retreat and

(34:43):
then I stayed with my girlfriend for another four
days. But the three days I just went by
myself. I did like meditating, yoga, all of these
things. And I felt so aligned and reconnected and
ready to come back and be the best mom
ever.
And I think that we feel guilty taking that
time out for ourselves, but that is how you
become more balanced and that those three, four days

(35:04):
can allow me levels of balance and connectivity and
alignment that can last for months, you know, and
that's why I just feel like it's so important.
Like, when I went on my first vacation by
myself, it was an accident because my girlfriend had
a passport hiccup and she was like, well, I
feel so bad, you know, like, what are you

(35:24):
going to do? And I'm like, what am I
going to do? I'm like, the plane's leaving, I'm
going to Belize.
Like, and it wasn't until after she left and,
and I was in. And I was on the
plane going, I was like, oh, I've never traveled
by myself before. This is a little jarring. But
I got there, and the level of freedom, I
felt it. I had to go through the feelings

(35:46):
of feeling a little guilty as a mother for
a second, and then I realized, no, every mother
needs to do this. Because for the first time,
I felt like in years, I really heard my
voice again, and I was like, I've been feeling
so indecisive and so scatterbrained for so many years
with my kids. And I on that vacation. I
was like, I'm not indecisive, and I'm. I'm not

(36:08):
scatterbrained at all. I'm like, it's just that you're
being pulled in so many different directions that even
when you travel with your friends, you know, you're
still accommodating us as women are very accommodating, you
know.
When do you want to go for lunch? Oh,
okay. Yeah, we can wait. We can wait a
little bit longer, you know, when do you think
you want to go to the pool? Like, and
the freedom that I felt just like, I think

(36:29):
I'll go eat right now because I feel hungry.
You know what? I'm going to sit at the
pool. And then I feel like I've been here
for an hour just reading at the pool. I'm
like, I could be here for two hours. It
doesn't matter. And that freedom, it was so empowering
for me as a woman that I was like,
I think every woman needs to do this, especially
every mother.

(36:50):
You need to go away by yourself and completely
unplug, where if the chaos of life happens, you
can't get there. You know, like, the husbands are
going to have to figure it out. Your support
system is going to have to figure it out,
and you just kind of take that time. For
you, I think it's so important.
I agree with you 1000%. 1000%. I. The very

(37:11):
first time I did a solo trip without my
kids was when I became a single mom in
2009. And I thought that was the most terrifying
thing of my life. I'm on the plane, crying
the whole flight there. But that week was so
freeing. It was so relaxing. It was so refreshing
that I was able to come back and be,
you know, a better mom because I had the

(37:31):
time to think, to process, you know, to work
on, like, prioritizing me. You know, when you have
kids, even. Even when you're away from your kids,
sometimes you're kind of like, okay, Are they okay?
What are they doing? Like, As a mom, your
brain never stops, you know, thinking about your kids.
But, yeah, agree with you. Where every mom should
take a solo trip to be able to reconnect

(37:51):
with themselves. And that. That piece that you said,
like, we're so accommodating. What. You know, when we're
with our friends, when we're with our partners, when
we're in work environments, you know, we're. We're trying
to appease everybody and make sure everyone else is
good. Like, yeah.
And people are like, I want a vacation. Yeah,
I went with my girlfriends that month, and I
went with my husband. But then the whole time,

(38:13):
how many times did you ask him what he.
How he felt about going to eat or what
excursion he wanted to go on or what he
wanted to do next? And how many times did
you. So even then you went with somebody else,
but that opportunity to connect with yourself is lost.
And I think that's what's important. I really want

(38:34):
to make it a commitment where it's. Every year
or a minimum, every two years. I want to
do a solo trip, even if it's just three
or four days, just to kind of unplug and.
And hear my voice again, you know, and know
what I want, you know?
Absolutely. I put a stamp on that. I think
we all should.
Yes. So that's what everybody needs to do. We

(38:57):
figured it out now. Every mother just needs to
go away for, like, three to five days. But
I do feel like, you know, there is, like,
another thing that happens that I think people who
haven't gone on a trip, if they start realizing
that they're doing this, you start to put band
aids on the fact that you're feeling disconnected and
you're feeling out of balance, you know? And I
think, for me, I became a nightly wine drinker

(39:19):
where I was always the person that was like,
you drink. You're drinking every day. Like, you need
to have a beer every night. Like, you need
to really need to do that. And I didn't
know. I don't even realize. It pretty much happened
right around Covid, you know, because you couldn't get
away. So it was like, I just want that.
I just cannot wait for that one glass of
wine and just drink my wine, feel relaxed, and

(39:40):
go to bed. And I realized that that was
a band aid to the fact that I felt
so out of balance. And then you realize that
that's making you more out of balance, because even
that one glass, which ends up being two glasses,
sometimes you wake up a little more tired and
a little more like, sluggish the next day and
you can't kind of, you know, get yourself going.
And when I, you know, when I went on

(40:02):
these trips that I would consciously not drink and
feel so much better, and I realized that, you
know, that's something that I need to be more
in control of that, like, I don't. So that's
something that I don't do anymore where that made
me really like. And I think that people need
to see that. You know, you find your band
aids, you find the things, you know, even, you
know, TV binging, you know, you find those things

(40:25):
to just kind of like zone out and Zen
out. But it's only such a short period of
time that it's not really rejuvenating you or connecting
you to yourself or to your power. It's just
a little band aid so that you feel a
little bit better to continue the chaos the next
day. But there's nothing that's like stopping you to
be like, no, you feel a little squirrely. There's

(40:47):
a reason you don't hear your voice anymore. Michelle
is like, checked out because there's 20 million things
going on in her head.
So, Yeah, I agree 1000%. I would actually love
to know what are some more ways that you're
prioritizing your healing and focusing on self care? Because
I feel like you said some really great things

(41:09):
that I think people should implement. I would love
if there's any more that you could share with
the listeners.
Yeah, I think for me it's, yeah, meditating, praying,
and then also journaling as well. So I like
to. I usually journal, though. I don't make it
a thing where I have to journal every day.
It's something that I feel like I can't show
up for as much as I want to. I've

(41:31):
tried some people, that's their thing and it works
for them. For me, meditating and being mindful, like,
just slowing my mind down because I talk really
fast and that's as. That's actually how fast my
brain thinks as well. So it's like my brain
is just going crazy all the time. So I
need to like, consciously like, you know, quiet my
brain and. Yeah, so those. But then when I

(41:53):
get really squirrely or there's something going on in
my life where I feel like I can't quiet
my brain. No matter how much I meditate, I
can't meditate it away or I can't even pray
it away. Like I, you know, I'm praying about
it and it's like my mind's not going a
peaceful place. It's just like, it's getting more negative
where I'm like, even in my prayers, I can't
get away. And then usually that's when I have
to journal.

(42:14):
So.
And I just like write all the negativity down.
All of the things that I'm like scared of
or you know, the things that I just, I
can't shut it off when I journal it. It's
like it gets out of my body. And then
even when I look at it, you see how
ridiculous it is and you see how, you know,
small it is and how there's just something that

(42:35):
happens when you just put that pen to paper.
Sometimes that for me, that really helps me to
kind of get out of my negativity and refocus
my mind and kind of think through a different
lens, you know, allow myself to kind of think
differently about a certain situation. Anything else while moving,
you know, like, I, I always try to like,

(42:56):
work out. And I've been really big right now
on just working out every day and trying to
do it before the kids wake up. So like
moms, I know it feels impossible, but like, you
gotta get up between like 5 and 6 o'clock
or you're not getting that workout in. That's just
it. Because ain't nobody working out at like 8,
9, 10 o'clock after those kids go to bed,

(43:16):
like, let's be tired. That's when you're like battling
yourself. Do I have that glass of wine? Do
I watch that tv or do I just go
to bed? Like, it's just like if you get
into the routine of, you know, working out between
five and six, five, if you're really, really powerful,
you know, you get up at 4:30, but between
5 and 6 before the kids wake up and

(43:37):
you get your workout. And even if it's yoga,
like I started by doing it saying that no
matter what, I have five minutes. And that's what
I started doing where I would try to wake
up by 5:30, 6:00 and sometimes I would, I
would push it or I never got into flow
yet with my sleep schedule. So then I would
wake up and I'm like, no matter what, I'm
like, put my running shoes on and I would

(43:58):
just do like squats and like presses for like
five minutes and I would. And I felt like
that just commitment to showing up every day kind
of morphed into like, okay, I'm getting up every
day at 6 now or 5:30 and like, I'm
getting my Workout in. So I think that really
helps to kind of, to kind of energize you
in a different way. Like I think you need

(44:20):
to get your brain and your body moving in
order to access all of those different, you know,
vibrations that we're talking about. Like yeah, you got
to move it all around or it just gets
stagnant.
Absolutely. So I strongly believe in healthy motion equals
healthy emotion. Right. Because yes, in motion. So it's

(44:41):
like there's, you hear or see people like what's
his name, Tony Robbins and those people where they
do like jumping jacks before they go on stage
or all those things, they're getting that energy moving.
Right? We are, we are energy, we are spirit.
So it's being able to control, you know, the
energy that we're, that we're in. And I also
love how you spoke to the journaling piece of

(45:02):
getting it out of you because again, those emotions,
that's energy, right? So when you're having the negative
emotions and they're being suppressed internally, that causes us
to be sick, that causes our body to be
in dis ease. Right. Like the, the chaotic vibration.
So when we're able to get it out on
paper to get those emotions out of us and

(45:23):
express those emotions, you know, it's, it's getting it
out of your system. But also I love how
you said where you look at it and you're
reflecting on what you've, what you've written. You know,
sometimes we're in a situation and we're looking at
it from our own perspective. And when you write
it out and you can actually see what you've
been thinking or what you've been feeling, it helps
you shift your perspective on that scenario that you

(45:46):
know, situation where not, you know, narrow minded about
the way that you've been thinking, so you allow
your mind to expand. So I love that.
Yeah, Well, I think, because like sometimes and I
think when you, when I get in those places,
I realize that those things that I can't meditate
away. It's like somebody cuts me off in traffic
or I'm just having a day where I stubbed

(46:07):
my toe and this is annoying and I just
gotta go and like zen out because you know,
these, I know these are small things. It's really
easy for me to be like, my mind's getting
into a negative place. I want to attract positivity.
Let's just quiet our mind and then everything turns
on. But it's like when there's something that happens
in your life, it's usually because it's so connected
to some deep childhood trauma or some deep lesson

(46:29):
that you haven't kind of pushed through. And that's
when you can't get it out. That's when you
can't meditate it away. You can't just shake it
out of your body. And I feel like when
you dump it out and you write it so
plainly, you hear that ego part of your brain,
you visually see it where you're like, I thought
I was a better person than this right now.
I thought I was growing out of this way

(46:51):
of thinking. And you, you see that your brain
is stuck for whatever reason. And you can, yeah,
it can really help you kind of reflect on,
on your, your hiccups.
Yeah.
You know, that you're still trying to navigate.
I, I, I feel like naturally introverts were prone
to reflecting versus actually, I'm not even going to

(47:15):
compare. But as an introvert, our, our brain immediately
is more introspective, and we tend to look at
not only other people's behavior and try to understand,
you know, where they're coming from, why they're behaving
the way they are, what happened to them, all
those things, but for ourselves, understanding. Like, I find

(47:37):
myself all the time, why did I say that?
Well, why did I do that? Does that, like,
maybe I need to apologize here. Did I offend
that person? I'm gonna, like, you know what I
mean? Our, our brain do that.
Okay. And sorry. Sometimes no. And sometimes that's, that's
kind of part of the journey. Like, I felt
like, you know, sometimes when you do that a
lot, you make a lot of excuses for people

(47:59):
in your life. So when they end up getting
pushed out of your life, sometimes it's about not
like force pushing back, like just letting things unfold
the way that they're supposed to. Because we do,
we make like. I feel like I'm a very
empathetic and empathic person. And I know that everybody
has a good heart. You know, I don't believe
that there's really evil people out there. I think

(48:20):
there are. People make bad decisions and people do
bad things, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes because of
their own trauma or whatever. But I feel like
nobody is inherently evil. I think that all happens.
So because of that, you can be in a
place where you're excusing everybody's bad behavior towards you.

(48:41):
And sometimes it's about changing that vibration, just not
about fighting them, but just letting yourself know that
it's okay for people to be different and for
them to navigate the world. That they do, and
you don't have to do it with them. And
you can still be at peace and you can
still wish them well. And I'm sure that, you
know, they're on their own journey and they'll find

(49:01):
the things that they need to grow in the
way that they're supposed to. But sometimes when you
feel like that pattern of behavior keeps hurting you,
it is a time where you have to listen
to the universe when it's kind of being pushed
away or let go. And a lot of times
the universe will do it for you if you're
not strong enough. And that's when it hurts the
most, where you're like, why? I've been trying so

(49:22):
hard and I understand them and like, yeah, you
speak.
My language right now. I get it. Okay, so
before we go to the final segment of the
show, I would love if you could tell the
listeners where they could stay connected with you, where
they can learn more from you and about you.
I wish I was better on social media, honestly.

(49:43):
I feel like you can connect with me and
learn more from me when you hear that I'm
going to be doing a podcast or talking or
being on a panel or something like that. But
I try, but I use social media so sparingly.
It's really, really bad. But you can find me
at Michelle Morgan. So M I S H A
E L M O R G A N at
instagram or Michelle Morgan1 on Twitter. And then I

(50:06):
also. Yeah, and then Michelle Morgan on TikTok. But
I just got on TikTok because I'm trying with
the social media. I'm horrible, and I don't even
know why I got TikTok. I knew I didn't
want to get it because I was like, I
don't need another. I've never post on it. It's.
It's actually embarrassing, but, you know, it's there. If
you happen to be on TikTok and you want
to see me, I believe that at some point

(50:30):
I will figure this out.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's just like, you know, another thing about
balance is that sometimes you gotta let things go.
That's that, you know, we all want to wear
so many hats and so many shoes, especially right
now. And I'm like, that's not my lane. I
am not an influencer. I don't know how to
do that. I power to the people that do.
I have to kind of like, you know, let

(50:52):
that go a little bit while I'm focusing on
my producing and my acting and my writing and
And I have to know what's, you know, what's
most important to me right now. And I think
that at some point, you know, I'll get somebody
to help me with that, because that's not my
forte. And at some point, I'll do it. I'll
figure it out. I promise. For everybody who's following
me and everybody who does follow me, at some
point, I will get my. My stuff together on

(51:14):
social media.
You know what? I love that you mentioned that,
because I feel like, okay, so I used to
be someone that believed that there was such thing
as balance in all areas of her life. Like,
I was like, yeah, I can be a great
mom. I can be a great entrepreneur. I can
be a great partner. I can be all these
different things. And then when I actually got real

(51:34):
with myself, I realized, okay, I'm not going to
focus on balance, because sometimes I drop the ball
on certain things or sometimes certain things are just
not a priority right now. I focus on harmony
and what feels good right now. And I know
that for a long time I focused on, you
know, being present on social media on certain platforms

(51:55):
consistently. And then as life shifted, in order for
me to be in harmony with that, social media
wasn't a priority for my business or a priority
for my personal life. So I started to use
it a lot less. And it's not that I,
you know, don't enjoy the connections that I make
or any of those things, but it's like, you
know, what's important to you right now? You're prioritizing

(52:17):
your family, you're prioritizing the work that you're doing,
the impact that you're making. And if it's not
dependent on social media, then you don't have to
be on there all the time. Like, yeah, it's
just.
I think it is, like, what you were saying
is true, where we all want to have it
all, and we want to figure out how to
have it all. And I believe we all can
have it all, just not all at the same

(52:37):
time. Right, Right. So I think that there is
a time where you will have it all. Like,
you will sit down if that is your goal
in life, that you want to figure out balance
so that you can have it all. One day
you will look back and you will realize that
you had it all. You just never had it
all at that one time. Because that I think,
and striving for that is what's difficult, you know.

(52:59):
So I think it's about realizing when you're out
of balance, try to get in balance and in
flow with yourself. And then that will help you
figure out what your priorities are right now. What
are the most important things to you right now
for you to have to feel whole and to
feel complete? And then, you know, that will not
be the same things in five years or ten
years from now.

(53:20):
Yeah, so.
Yeah. So, like, being patient with myself, even.
What you said there, I'm like, I don't know,
maybe I'm just feeling extra emotional today.
I have that effect on people. It's the cancer.
I mean, everybody's just always crying around.
Me because I'm thinking, I remember. Okay, so I
used to have trouble with relationships. Like, long story

(53:42):
short, so I have three kids, two different fathers.
Each time I was with their fathers for eight
and a half years each. Right. And then any
relationship I had after that, it was like, I
thought I was on a high when that relationship.
And then things just, like, fell off. So when
I was trying to focus on balance in all
areas of my life, it was like, okay, I
was doing great at being a mom. I was

(54:03):
doing great in my business. And then I got
into a relationship, and I was so focused on
that relationship that my business started to fall down.
My. I felt like I wasn't being the best
mom. I felt like I wasn't in all those
other areas. And a friend had said to me
at the time, like, I have watched you since
you were a little girl. You. I don't know
if it's possible for you to be successful in

(54:24):
your business and have the relationship that you want
at the same time. And I didn't believe that
because I was like, I am, you know, I'm
trying to find balance. And right now in my
relationship with my fiance, where it's like, this is
the healthiest, most loving and safe and, I don't

(54:45):
know, peaceful I've ever felt in a relationship. And
at the same time, this is probably the greatest
I've felt in my business as well. And as,
you know, close with my kids and all those
things. So it's like, yes, it is possible. It
may not always be possible at the same time,
but also if you choose to believe, like, I
could have believed that I could only have one

(55:07):
or the other.
Yeah.
On. On that. And choosing to believe otherwise and
allowing my faith to be like, you know, I
know God has better in store for me and
going with that. And now being in the place
that I'm in, like, hearing what you said a
while ago, you know, made me think of that,
and I just got emotional.

(55:27):
No no, that's awesome. And I'm so happy for
you because that's. Well, that's it, right? You. You
decided the most important things for you at this
time in your life was, like, your relationship, trying
to figure out how to have the relationship that
you want, the career that you want, and be
the mother that you want. But, you know, I'm
sure that there's a lot of other things that
you had on your plate before that you realize

(55:48):
we're not serving you. Like, you know, the social
media aspect where you're like, that's probably lagging now.
You can't be the social media influencing queen that
you thought you were gonna be. You know, that
fell off the list. You know, sometimes, like, my
wardrobe falls off the list where I'm like, I
have not gone shopping in three years, so, like,
pretty much all of my new cloth is, like,
from new characters. That. Yeah, I. And then you

(56:09):
said, there's always going to be something that you
feel like you're not showing up for. But if
the most important things in your life are kind
of connecting or. Or getting there or have a
sense of balance to it, then you're already, you
know, you're already ahead of the game and you're
good. It's about figuring out. Yeah. Prioritizing. Figuring out
the most important things. So then when those other

(56:29):
little things are not happening, it doesn't derail you.
You're like, you know, in a couple of months,
I'll figure that out. You know?
Absolutely.
And then also, I think there's times in your
life where you feel like things are out of
balance. Like, you might feel like your career isn't
where it's supposed to be. Like, I'll even open
up where I'm like, yeah, I felt like when
I left Y and R, I went. The strike
happened, but I still was, like, working, working, working.

(56:50):
And I was good. And then I started producing
and I was good. And then I do feel
like this lull happening the past. The past couple
of months in this year, there's been, like, a
bit of a lull, and I have to remind
myself that I'm safe and I'm supported. But what
it's allowing me to do, which I'm realizing, is
that it's allowing me time for preparation, where when

(57:11):
I get there, I can have the balance that
I want, because now I can prepare where it's
like, I want to have a better social media
presence, where I'm having meetings with people to kind
of like, help me manage that and figure that
Out I'm like having a lot of meetings with
people in the producing space and like going to
these events and these networking things. So that's. And
a lot of it feels like I'm not working,

(57:32):
but I have to. I had to remind myself
that this is like a season of preparation where
when I get there, I'm going to have so
many more things in balance and aligned because of
the work that I'm putting in right now. Even
just from like, you know, getting in on my
schedule where I'm working out as early as I
am. Like, if I'm working out at 5 in
the morning, I can, I can work out before
I go to set. Most times where that is

(57:54):
something that, you know, if I'm. If I was
on set, I was going to set, it was
like, I'm not working out and like, if I
book a movie that's shooting for three, four months,
that's not going to be very feasible if I
am not on a schedule where I'm capable of
getting up in the morning and working out. So
those shifts and things that have happened to my
mindset and my schedule and all of the time
that I've had to kind of work that out,

(58:15):
I think has. It's allowing me to kind of
show up. So when I'm ready to. When those
moments come and I have to show up for,
you know, certain. A different stage or a different
season in my life, I have done the preparation
to kind of get there. So. Yeah.
Wow. Beautiful. Beautiful. Well, I guess. Okay, so the
final segment of the show, it's like a rapid

(58:36):
fire. You can answer one word, one sentence.
I hate this. I really, really do. I say
the stupidest answers. Well, I don't know. It's like
my brain, I get. There's some anxiety that happens.
And even though I speak really fast, somebody, as
soon as somebody say, okay, it's gonna be a
lightning round, I'm like, dog, like, something happens.

(58:57):
Okay. So the beauty of this is I don't
like to make anyone else feel claustrophobic and put
into a box because I don't like that. If
you feel the need to expand or if you
need to take time to respond, you're more than
welcome to do so.
Okay, I'll try. I'll try and do this. We're
going to try. Going to see what happens. Because
I'm trying to do this thing where I don't
speak as much. I. I don't know, it's not

(59:18):
going very well. But, you know, I'm trying everything
that's.
Coming out of your mouth is great.
Trying to simplify. Believe it or not, I am
on a journey to simplify my answers. I don't
know.
This is. This is practice. This is preparation.
Practice. Yeah. Let's do it.
Okay. Name a book that has changed or greatly
impacted your life.

(59:38):
A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle.
Love it. What's the first thing you do in
the morning when you wake up?
I drink a cup of tea. Like, yeah, like.
Yeah, like, with like ginger and all this stuff
in it. But I don't want to explain because
I drink a cup of tea. Okay.
What's the last thing you do at night before
you go to bed?

(59:58):
Instagram. Or. Or I try to read. I'm trying
to read now, but yeah, most of the time,
Instagram and pray.
Okay. What new belief, behavior or habit has improved
your life in the last five years?
Working out from like 5 to 6am yeah. You
still ahead of the game?
When and where are you the happiest?

(01:00:22):
When and on set with or like on set?
Yeah.
Oh, that's a hard one because I'm like, with
my babies cuddling at night too. Oh, I don't
know. I can't. That's a hard one to choose.
So, like, with my family or, you know, doing
what I do, what I like to do. Yeah.
Love it. Love it. Okay, last but not least,
what do you wish women would do more of?

(01:00:44):
Support each other.
Love it. That's the perfect note to end on.
Thank you so much, Michelle, for your transparency, for
your authenticity, for your time. I, like I said
before, I do not take it lightly. I appreciate
you co creating this experience with me for the
listeners, thank you so much.
Oh, you're so welcome. It's been a pleasure. Thank

(01:01:05):
you.
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