November 5, 2025 • 51 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Heart and Soul Podcast with Catherine Banko.
I'm on a mission to celebrate breakthrough, empowerment and shameless
living in the lives of women everywhere. Join me and
let's live unashamed together.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're back. Did you miss me? Wait?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
What's that Kardashian sound? Did you miss us? Because we
missed you?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Is that a Kardashian It's like a clip from the Kardashians.
It went on TikTok. Anyways, Heart and Soul is back. Yes,
I've been gone a month, and honestly, no, I'm not
sorry because.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I didn't have any childcare. So how am I supposed
to record an episode that sounds I don't know good
with children screaming in the back, screaming growing up.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But Melody's back with me here, Melody wise. Men, I
I'm the only and.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We're just gonna shoot the crap and talk about pop
culture things and catch up on life and love it.
Hopefully give you something to listen to you today.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you know, just something that can bring you joy. Yeah,
some little a little bit of light, A little bit
of light. How you doing, I'm doing great.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I will preface with we've been talking for almost an
hour before press record. So there's some things like you know,
we already caught up on. But but I've been good.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know, life's like normal.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Didn't you travel again somewhere? I mean we did go
to Jersey. No, you went somewhere else. Have I talked
to you since you went to Sicily? Have you been
on the podcast though, I've talked to Yeah, I think so, Okay,
I think I came back and we recorded, we recorded, Okay, Well,
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I was Jersey. Jersey was great.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Mikey's grandfather turned ninety five, so we had a big party.
Hug George, No, not George. This is pop pop Dave
other side, yep, other side.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Both his grandparents he.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Still has, well, not his his pop Pop's wife passed away.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, yeah, do you have your grandparents?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I have two grandparents. My dad's parents are both still alive.
My mom's dad passed away when I was young, really
really young, and then my mom's mom passed away this year.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's what I went to Germany. That's right. Yeah, I
don't have any grand home really.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, but I guess I'm older than like, you're not
that old, right, but like my so, my dad's parents
passed away when I was like in fifth and sixth grade.
Oh wow, that's still like really young.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They were young.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Though, but like she smoked like million cigarettes a day
and you know, just like didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Really yeah, like we kind of they were younger.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And then my grandma, I guess she lived till I
was what twenty When did I get engaged?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Eight?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And then my oh my grandpa, her husband died when
I was twenty two.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Wow, you were young. Yeah, I'm sorry, it was okay.
It's kind of like a do you miss them? I do, Yeah,
I miss my I especially miss my grandma that I
like really really.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Need, right exactly, Yeah, the one that yeah, grandma an
granmi a yeah, my old roomy. It's kind of a
weird way to start the podcast, but like you know,
there are weirder ways we could have started the podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Go there, we could.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I do want to apologize for not well, no, like
I'm not sorry apologized. I want to explain to you
why So. The last episode that we released was on
the week of Life of a show Girl and Taylor
Thomas was the guest, and we broke down the album
and then I haven't been back since, and I do.
I'm not sure if at the end of that episode,
(03:51):
if I promised you I would be back soon, But
if I did, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I have.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Just my mom's been gone. Usually, my mom's.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Here like every three weeks for three weeks at a time,
so it's like I can kind of like pile up episodes.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But my mom has gone for almost two months, and
what a life. She was living her best life, like
she went to Europe for a month and she deserves it.
And whenever she's gone, I don't have access to childcare.
That's my excuse, and I feel like it's a great one. Yeah, Honestly,
nobody DM me either, So I'm not even sure if
(04:25):
anyone listens to the podcast anymore to like say like, hey,
are you coming back?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Whatever? We're here, Yeah, what are you watching for? One
watched Love is Blind? Me too? That is to talk
about that. We need to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I am watching Potomac Love It Eat It Up, Salt
Lake City, Salt Lake City, Beat It Up.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Can't get enough? I know. Do you watch Selling Sunset? Yes,
but I've.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Only watched the first three episodes. It's four episodes, which
like we're insane. Anyway, there was like a sea season
in and of itself. The first three episodes were insane.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Let's start there because oh my, because you were talking
about Burkins. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about Burkins about
car payments, and then like just kind of realizing that
people buy bags that are the same price as a car,
and if not, what good for them?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Good for you? Good for you if you can do it,
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And you know what, I thought about this the other
day because of selling Sunset.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
When I been thinking about when Bree.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Puts her bag on the ground and it's a Burkin
and she's like, oh my gosh, I think I've committed
a cardinal sin, Like this is probably awful, but whatever.
And I am that person that I just feel like,
if you can't enjoy a large purchase, you probably shouldn't
make that purchase. Like I'm the type of person that like, yes,
(05:53):
I get taking care of your things. I understand, like
you want to take care of your stuff, but stuff
is just stuff and it's supposed to be used. Like
I think of people who love shoes.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right, if you are.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Buying really expensive shoes and not wearing them, keeping them
in the box or just like yeah, people so delicate
with I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Shouldn't buy those shoes. What's the point? Like, wear them,
enjoy them, use them. Like I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I just I feel like if you're not, if you're
not using those things to the fullest, you're not gonna
if you don't lose it, lose it, give it to me,
to me.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'll use it. I will use it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
The amount of times we've bought like some nice shoes
Mikey and I love, like some nice sneakers whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And I'll be like, Okay, I'm gonna wear these, like
for this thing.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Like maybe I was like, I don't know, but then
I gotta go to the gym, so maybe I'll wear
them there. He's like, oh, are you crazy. I'm like no,
I'm these are sneakers.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's like when people buy or have, like a really
nice bottle of wine and they never.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Never drink it. Well, okay, there's a differing.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I understand open and saving for a special occasion, but
like we had this really nice bottle of wine and
like our first two anniversaries were like, let's just save
it for something else or like something what what?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, it's wine and like I get you know, people
save wine to age it. So like if you have
a specific type of wine and it's like, Okay, this
wine is going to taste really really good at like fifteen.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Years, then I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Save it and like in fifteen years you're probably going
to celebrate some sort of anniversary or something that's really.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Cool and open it. Then cool. But like other wines
that you're just like whoa, or candles like or people
don't burn candles. People don't burn care They just buy
the candles in and they're like, I'm not going to
burn it because then it'll go wy. It's well, then
you don't smell it. What's then? I've never heard of
that one, but that's crazy. People are crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Speaking of Mikey and wine, he posted that photo of
all the wine y'all got to delivered.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes we finally got it delivered yesterday.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
From Italy and I no idea, I replied, and I
said me want Okay, Money replied with have you listened
to Taylor's new album yet?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And I was like, Mikey, I love it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
He like completely disregarded the wine and was like, hey,
you know, it's been a month since your favorite artist
of all time released an album?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You heard it?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Literally, he told me.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
He's like, I can't wait for Catherine to respond at
literally anything so that he can say that to you.
He didn't want to say it for forever, like he
knows you listened not at midnight because like you were
asleep or are you We don't know, I really I
don't know, but exactly, but he was like, I know
(08:41):
she's listening to this, but I just want to ask
her so about like did you know that Taylor Swift
came out with a new album.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Mikey's like goal in life is just to torture me.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Have we talked about the egger Lett on this one?
I don't know if we have.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Mikey used to be a chef at this restaurant in
time called Drift, and that's where I would work when
I like worked from home, so I would go to
Drifts in the morning. I was there like every day.
I saw my keel like every day and he would
make well he started off like making me eggs or
like made me a bowl and he was like, hey,
(09:17):
I made an extra Yeah, like you want this, it's
like free breakfast?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, of course I do.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And like I would like open it and the egg
would either be like runny or like nothing. It was
just like egg grew lette, like you never knew what
kind of egg you were going to get.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And that's what he ended up calling it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It was like eggrow lett and he like made a
whole like thing of this but only with me, and
he'd be like, what, I don't know it was. It
went on for months, and that's kind of that was
the foundation of our relationship. Therefore the rest of our
relationship is just him roasting.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, and it worked. I can handle it. Like he's
a good roaster. He is a good roaster. He doesn't
take things too far. But Joe's barn Now kiss you
awfully a bit, but you're still my friend exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay, I want to talk about selling suns that okay,
even though you're only three episodes in, this isn't like a.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The beginning is crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
It's insane, Nicole or talking about les And did you
watch the dinner? Okay, I can't remember episode that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Was Lord, it was episode two and I my jaw
was on the ground the way that these women.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Are screaming in her face to get.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
At out and she will not stand out and she
would not get up and she's just standing firm in
her comment. And that was the crazy, one of the
craziest scenes I think I've ever seen in reality team.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I was watching this thinking like this might be the
best season of Selling Sunset just because of this scene.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yes, and Amansa being so funny sorry talking about the cocaine.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, but the look cocaine. It's so crazy. And she
literally was like looking the camera in the eye and
was lighted. Blow. So we're together. I don't like, oh, well,
you know.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And I get it when you know, Nicole Drane to
hold that over her head of like you've done things
too that you don't say, and it's like, well, Amansa
has kids, and yeah, I guess she doesn't want to
necessarily like throw that in everyone's faces when like this
show is about real estate. Like I'm sorry, yes, it's
about your real life too, But like, I guess, drugs
(11:29):
hasn't really come up for Amanza that she's got to
be like, but you've.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Done you know.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
When it did, she was like, yeah, I've done Yeah,
I've done it exactly. She doesn't need to go into
deep details of everything, but It's like it was just
so crazy Nicole try and hold that over her.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I genuinely think there's like a screw loose in Nicole's brain.
She will take zero accountability for anything she does. And
she says some pretty insane says and oh she in
the rest of the season too.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You don't know, I'm not going to well.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And she went on a podcast recently and doubled down.
They asked her, do you regret saying what you said
at that dinner Aboutell's parents, And she said no. I
felt that I was defending myself. I felt like I
had every right to. You know, she's she's pushing off
(12:21):
the blame like she's she's what did she say?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
She was blame shifting or like.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
At the dinner she was like, you're confused. Oh yeah,
She's like, you're confusing me with your parents. She's like,
I feel like she was. It starts with a D.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
She said, dead parents. No, no, no, what is the
word when you like diffuse? Do not diffuse? What is
the word when you delegate to detonate? No? Destroy is
when you just like confuse? I don't know. I don't
know either. Funny if I don't know, I don't know,
(13:01):
but anyway, she's insane.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
What I really want to talk about that what we
want to talk about is what's selling Sunset is. I'd like,
always thought it was fascinating how much each season these
women like morph their faces and their bodies to look
more la or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And like to see.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I've always thought, you know, the stark difference between even
Kroschelle from like season one to season nine. And for
me personally, I think Krischelle's work that she's had done
looks phenomenal. So I'm not gonna like greed.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm not gonna I'm using Kroschelle as an example, but
I don't think she looks bad correct. And I think
what is crazy though, is this brea thing.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
So there's this one scene I don't think you've seen
it yet where Bree has coffee with her sister. Oh
I saw that, Okay, okay, yeah, were you like y'all
look nothing to like, yeah, how are you sisters?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No? And I thought about that, And she has the
sister and I haven't looked at up any photos okay, okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
So the sister has like very defined features, like a
little bit of like a longer nose, like just like,
this looks nothing like breethe right, And I'm like, this
is weird, so oh, look it up.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Okay, look it up. Look up.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Just look up breed tsc or whatever her last name is,
before and after. When you see what Bree looked like
before before she had plastic surgery, you're gonna freak the
freak out. That's the same person. What that is the
same person that looks like the sister?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That does Oh my literally does look anything like her. Gosh,
not one part of it looks like Brie, you know what.
The only part that looks like her her eyes, her teeth.
I see she's not smiling here, but her teeth look
like she's got big teeth. Yeah, and they're very they're
very pretty teeth.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
But I start while I started looking up before and
afters of like pretty much everyone after that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And it made me really sad. Yeah, because I feel
like they've gotten in la.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I can't imagine living there, but they've just gotten so
caught up in status quos and like keeping up with
the Joneses, even like the Burkens, Like I kind of wonder,
did you listen, Like.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Who can afford these? Or who's renting them or like
totally it is interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Is this actually your back or if it is, how
much credit card debt.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Did you go into to keep up with the Jones?
Is for this?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You also want it because they show their commissions. They
ain't getting all that no mission, like they're showing.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I started looking.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
They're showing before the split. They're showing before the split.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
They're slit at least fifty to fifty at least with
the broke, and so I thought about that, and then
I was like, let's just go on zillow and look
up because you can search by an agent for sure, and.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Look up who's listening? Who's list is this? Are they
actually selling real estate?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Are?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I think they?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Richelle had had like one sale in years. I was
so confused. How many times that chick has rung a bell?
I was like, what didn't she?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Is she trying to sell JoJo's house? Apparently she sold that.
I didn't look up hers for this year. This was
last season. She had like no sales. Basically, Mary actually
sells real estate. Yes, well we all know Amansa's never
sold a house.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
No, well that's she's her?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah, which is the stager she stages everyone's home,
so are listing.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But but she started in real estate, but then.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
She moved away from that, so I think that she's like,
I wonder, my phone's the camera. So I wonder if
she gets a cut from every home that she like,
if they were to sell it, if she gets a
cut of the commission that No, I think she just
gets she just gets a salary. I would assume per
(16:57):
per house that she stages, she gets a that is
kind of wild paycheck.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Okay, can you on the app do this?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I don't know, like search by an agent, like you
can literally search agents name. I don't know if you
can on the appearch. I know you can on the
on the website.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Okay, maybe I just need to go on the website.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Anyways, look it up later, because it's kind of insane
how they've created this whole television show.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And the fact definitely going to look that up.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And the fact that the O Group or whatever their
name is, the O Group, there's like way more agents
oh yeah at this office, but they act to These
are just like the States.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's why I like they're so Taston and Brett are legit.
Yeah oh yeah, like they are truly business owners, like
this is their their bread and butter. Yes, exactly, like
they are legit. Like I like this show. I like
watching them and I like seeing what they're doing because
they truly this is their company. But in these different
(18:01):
cities have to create. You have yes, and they have
their stage people, which I realize that show. I know
how reality TV works, but I still like it is
so crazy. I know what you mean, yeah, because it's
like sometimes these people are just on camera literally and
they're confessionals, probably just making up stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
For sure, you know. Yeah, that's reality TV. Ain't real.
It ain't real at all, And that's the iron irony
of it. Irony. Who's your least favorite? Cool? Okay, that's
a given. I can't. Okay, besides Nicole my least okay,
name them, name them? Okay. So we got Krishelle, we
(18:41):
got Mary Amanza, three.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Emma, Chelsea missing.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Oh and that girl, that girl, new girl, New Girl. Sandra. Yeah,
I'm not even gonna count her Andra. No, she's it
seems like, yeah, I like her.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
She seems like a very normal person. But oh wait,
I was just real quick before we go into who
is least favorite? Back to the plastic surgery thing. I
think it's really funny because they've done all this work
on their faces and now I feel like the tables
are flipping.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They are the opposite. People are going way natural.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
People like don't want the overfilled and thank god because
it is crazy. It is creepy crazy when people are
getting like I think the cheeks is the most crazy part.
Like the cheeks like so like people just look so puffy,
pillow face. Like.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I also find that they look old.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They're doing something to make them look younger, but I
think it makes people look older and they have too
much done one thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Like you look back at what Larza looked like when
she was before all of her plastic surgery, and it's like,
she looks so young that and I said, yes, she
was young then because it's taken a while to like
get all the work done that she's had, it's been
years and whatever. But she just looks like a totally
different person and like she honestly looked like thinner yew.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You know what's crazy is like I was talking about
this with a client who watches selling sends out yesterday
kind of similar conversation and she was saying, like, what
what do you think they see? Like, how weird is
it when they look in the mirror and they're like, this, actually,
isn't what I look like?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Or have they just like reprogrammed their brain to be like, oh,
this is what I look like now.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I think that they've reprogrammed their brains.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Because if I'm Brie, I'm looking in the mirror and
be like, I know, anyway, after.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Your whole life looking in the.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Mirror and seeing someone different, totally different, I think it
just has taken so much time to.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Get there though.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
At I yeah, I just think like at some point,
like the first initial thing is like shocking, Like when
I got my lips done for the first time.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I was like, oh my god, what have I done? Like,
what is this? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Obviously you're swollen too, so I was just like, oh,
I've ruined my life. I've ruined my face, but life
everyone in my life. But eventually obviously it settles. But
like I think now when I've gotten like little touch
ups here and there, like it doesn't look so crazy
to me anymore. So I really and thankfully that is
all I've done. It's just like a little bit at
a time, right, a little bit out of time. But
(21:24):
then yeah, then once you But that's the hard part
is like people then just like do a little bit
more and a little bit more, or like go a
little earlier than they need to, and they're like, oh,
I'll get all told a little bit more and then
let's just touch this up a little bit, and like
it just escapes you. And I really just don't think
it's drug. I think it is too like people like
(21:46):
get addicted to, like like people get addicted in a
certain way, tattoos, like.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You get addicted to like injections.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, so okay, it's kind of crazy, but anyway, it's
a favorite I know mine besides Nicole immediately your face.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Wow, it's crazy that you know yours immediately. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I can't stand this chick. Oh wow, Chelsea, I cannot see. Really,
she's in my running. She's so fake, she's so high.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Like I watched her on What Happens Live though, and
I thought she was so funny and she just seems
so cool. And I think it was nice because it
was out of the show, like out of that element.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
It was just like her being interviewed by a normal person.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
But like everything on the TV show that she says
feels so scripted, but I agree, like a monologue in
her shower and she's just performing and she like it's
just you can tell she's just like.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I can totally say that. Oh see.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And before the Dinner episode, I would have said Chrishelle
is my least favorite because I was just I don't know,
she's just kind of like seems a little whiny, and
then like she later on too much.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
At the end of the season, I started not liking her.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh really yeah, but the Dinner I was like, good
for you sticking up for yourself and honestly, good for
you for stirring up the pot, like because she kind
of seemed a little boring to me and like a.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Little too goodie, too shoey to me, Like all right,
like come on, get it, get into it, get in there.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I think my favorites are Mary Amanza and maybe Alana
because she's just so unproblematic.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, I think that my favorites are. My two favorites
are Amanza and Brie. I like Free.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I just heard she's like completely different on camera off camera,
but how would I know. Also, speaking of Free, like
this Nick Cannon thing, like I know I've known about it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I know it's weird hearing her just be like, oh, Nick,
so like he has so many baby mamas.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Not just baby mamas, like active girlfriends. Oh so like
especially one of he's he's open. So I'm wondering if
she's open too. And he posts about it, like he
posts on his page him and open to and couple
of things with him and this other woman who he
has kids with.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, I'm I'm sure. I'm sure she's open to. I
can imagine, Like she doesn't seem like the type that
is very much like, okay, you can do whatever you want,
and I can't. No, She's very very forward with everything
and like has a lot of confidence, and so I
can absolutely see her being like, yeah, like when we're
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with our kid and like we have a really good
relationship and we can be lovey dovey and whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
But like also like maybe I'm gonna go on a date.
I cannot imagine doing that. Wa Naujalanty. You said that,
and his face is even convinced as I'm saying it.
I'm like, this is crazy, but it's insane.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But I'm like, that's probably what's happening, especially the fact
that he has kids with these other So this is
also what I was thinking too, because I got to
stalking Nick Cannon after I went down this like thoughtful
rabbit hole, and I'm stalking him.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
It was right after Halloween, and I'm like watching like
him trigger treating with one family that he's with the
baby mama and then Brie and her baby or their baby,
and I'm like, I don't even have time for my
for everything, for my own kids. How is this man
he has like what twelve fourteen kids? How is he
jumping from home to home doing Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmases?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know what I mean? That's a really good point.
I thought about that, And is it like those poor kids?
Is all I got to say? What an easy way
to grow up? Like definitely still working like he does.
He's some things.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He's got money, yeah yeah, yeah, he's got money. He's
buying brees, he is supporting brides.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think he's a host of some show.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
America's got talent, right, Oh, shut up, that's it, you're right.
I could not think of what it was. I was like,
I swear he's I see him.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah out there, okay, yeah, yeah, that's a and you
know he's birkins and stuff. So part of me is like,
she's just into this open relationship because she's getting things.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Oh for sure, for sure, and you know she's smoking
it because she's like I had your baby.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, like justifying that I deserve this.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I need to know what goes on behind closed doors,
like I need I know. I did we spend this
time talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, I didn't know you would questions. I have so
many questions about their Zillow pages there before and afters
and Nick Cannon.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Nick Cannon, what did you What did you guys do
for Halloween? We went trigger treating at our friends. Oh
my gosh, your costume is hilarious. We went trigger treating
at our friends neighborhood because they have like really they
go all out for Halloween, so like kids, like a
hay ride from house to house, golf carts and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It was fine. It's like third year in a row
we've done it there.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
But William is a policeman, Coco was a convict, and
we were like pseudo policemen.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, had hats and glasses for sure, and badges. Yeah,
it's about them. It's all about them. It's all about them.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Poor Coco though, like she this is her second Halloween,
her first Halloween.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
It's just dictated on what William wants to be at
this Yeah, so it's like whatever he is going to
be the last year.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So he she was a dinosaur, right, oh, for her
first ever. She wasn't an egg. She was a disaur
egg and she was a little dinosaur. She was a
pink one and she looked like a dude in the costume.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
This year again, we did a trunk retreat on Sunday
before Halloween, and like they wore their costumes there and
she was a convict and not one person said, oh,
she's so cute. Every time he is so cute. And
I'm like this poor girl all the time, whenever she
is able to speak, like she's gonna be like make
(27:41):
me a princess, take me something, or to be like
whatever he is.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
And then I've been around.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Friends where like people have called their kids by the
wrong thing, and it's just funny to see how some
people respond and they're like, so.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
William gets called a girl every single day, which to
an extent I understand because he has long hair, and
the only thing I don't understand is at this point,
he's not like a baby like he's four. He's an
actual boy. He wears boy clothes. Yeah, he just has long,
curly hair.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, it's not like like I don't look at him
and think that looks like a like a girl. Yeah, exactly,
because I raised him.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I gets I'm sorry now. And she's so pretty. Yeah,
that's weird.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
She's so pretty. She's so pretty. She's dressed like Adam Sandler.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
She is.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
She's dressed like a scrub. We think if I had
a girl, I guess I do, and I did dress
her like a boy.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Anyways, your Halloween costume was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
It was so fun. You really like it was method acting. Yeah,
you played the part. I did play the part. It
was really really fun. It's not often you get to
be a Jersey Shore member. Yeah, so she was Snookie
for all those wondering. It was honestly, like, Mikey and
I never do anything for Halloween because we don't have
friends that do Halloween parties. We're not dressed, Like, where
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do you go, Like I'm a trick or treating? Why
would you ever dress up unless you have a kid
or you have an event to go to. I'm not
spending twenty three dollars on a costume of some sort.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Or whatever for no reason. For what for me and
Mikey to hang on all the couch like asbout candy. Yeah,
as about candy.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So this year our friends had a Halloween party and
so we were like, oh my gosh, we get to
actually dress up. And I don't love Halloween. I've never
because I've had nothing to do. I'm like, I'm dressing
up like I'm don't do anything. Mikey and I for
the past month have been rewatching Jersey Shore, so that's
what else I'm watching. You put that on my desk
(29:44):
and so I was like, I am basically five feet tall,
so I.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Could be snooky and this is great.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Like and I told Mike, I was like, whatever we
do because I hardly have any hair.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I was like, I want to wear wit you have to? Yeah,
I have to.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So I was like, whatever we do, need a wig.
So got out the stuff and honestly it was so fun,
Like clarious, I love dressing up. Now everyone someone needs
to throw a Halloween party every year because it's just
so fun. Not having to apologize for any of your
actions because you were pretending to be somebody else.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You're being a character. Like someone asked me, They're like, oh,
you snooky, you know what I said.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
And walked away and danced, and like the videos of
you dancing, whoever captured those, I was cracking up you
and those ug boots and you kept looking down and being.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Like yeah, because yeah, she I broke. I did a
little break dancing at one point closer to the end
of the night and not a lot of people were
around because you know, it was in her dress.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
But she wouldn't have cared, so I had to do it.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
He literally did back handsprings in one of at the
bar in one episode, and I was like, Okay, not
going to go that far.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But and then Mikey was Lord Farquad, and then Mikey.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Was Lord Farquad, which he was last year, and he
just had the costume, so he was like, I'll do
that again.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Surprised he wasn't like Mike the situation. Yeah, I know.
I just I was like, you know what, I we
don't need to do a couple's costumes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I was like, I want to be snooky and if
you He was just like, I just want to be
a Lord Farquad because I have it, perfick.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So it was great that yeah, yeah, we enjoyed okay,
Salt Lake City. See this season, there's not one episode
that I've been like the same.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That was when does it come out like we're okay tonight?
Okay good?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So you're caught up like yes, the first episode on
the yes insane?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So good?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Do you think that Lisa Barlow is the one who
snitched for sure?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Me too? Because she acts guilty all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
There's no reason why somebody would act the way that
she's acting if they weren't guilty.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I have so much to say about this past episode.
That moment, I was so proud of Heather me too,
even though she was wasted, She was so wasted. I
was so proud of her finally standing up to someone.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
She's such like a like, she doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
A backbone with these like main characters, and so finally
for her to be like, I actually am a main character.
I should step up and say something. I was very
proud of her, And Bronwyn was so savage with sitting
down for dinner, rooming with Brittany and immediately looking at
Mary and saying this is what Brittany just said about you.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, like insane, that was insane behavior.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
No shame, no shame.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And then Meredith doing her like you are vile move again,
like she just like has three lines.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I know all she wants to do is throw water
on Brittany.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, Brittany Unicorn hilarious and the like the editors are
doing the most for Salt Lake City, and I just
like applaud them wholeheartedly with like them starting the episode
with like a flash forward of this unicorn in the
water Man is great, hilarious, so funny. And whenever they
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like bounce back to what someone said, like lying about
what which proves that they're lying about what they're saying
right now is so good they always have the footage.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Also, I just I really think that it was really
good for Angie and Mary's friendship that Mary stayed with Angie.
I agree, Like I love that Mary didn't care that
Angie was feeling sick. Like obviously I know the I
get vertigo a lot and I won't say a lot,
but like I've gotten it more than I should. Yeah,
(33:47):
and it is the worst feeling in the world. So
like her feeling this like sea sickness type thing, like
I know what she's feeling. The last thing you want
to do is open your eyes first of all, so
like I know she's laying their eyes closed, not really
talking probably much.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And Mary's like just sitting here, pull.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
The clothed and eat my food, like she was trying
go upstairs and have dinner.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And and Angie would have been fine. I know she
would have been fine, been like, oh, spend time with
the girls whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Mary's were like, no, I'm not going to be a
bad time with the girls. Like I just think it
was so good that they got to like reconnect because
they did have that little, like, you know issue.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And then I.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Also thought it was like hilarious when they would like
flash to Mary and Angie in the bed and they
would hear people screaming and they're like, do you hear that?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Who's screaming? Who's that? Who? Is so funny? So funny,
so good. I just like love, I love both of
them so much.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I'm so happy that they just like had that moment
together and they could like.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, just I love every I love this show. I
love this show.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I look forward to it every single week. Say, I
think it's so good. I think it is the best franchise.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Same. Do you watch Potomac? No, someone told me to
just start though, like this season, but.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, actually, yeah you should start the season. Honestly, did
I get it?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay, do it. It's new. It just came out so
I could. Yes, and they've added a couple new people.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Okay, you should just do it. Yeah, Like that's what
I did with Beverly Hills. I just started in twenty twenty,
like Cold Turkey. Same thing with Vanner Pump Rules.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh you know what else I'm watching. I'm starting. I'm
on season two Southern Charm. Great show. I can't win.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
The first couple of seasons so good with Thomas Ravenal
Thomas and Catherine.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
What an icon she spells an't even the same way
as me. I know she does.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
That was when Southern Time and Craig was just like
such a boy.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, he's such a boy. And I'm watching it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I'm like, I've only known Craig on Summer House and
so it's weird seeing Craig right now.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And I'm like he's a one.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, And I'm like, please don't like try and fit
in with these crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
People like don't gosh, do it as Cameron. I love camera.
It was great.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So anymore know her and her and Shep we're besties
like the most, like Randall, they were bestie.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I love the beginning of Southern Term. It's still good.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It's just not Yeah, I'm excited for Astin to come on.
He hasn't come on yet. Whitney skeeves me out and
that's it. Yeah anyway, but Potomac just start the season.
It is so good, like Potomac and Salt Lake are
two of my faves. They are just so good. I
love Giselle.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
You need to watch Okay, what else did you watch?
Nobody's blind? Love is blind? Love is blind? At this point?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Like what a failure of a season? Did you watch
the reunion? Yeah, okay, she has a baby. She has
a baby. Okay, Oh this is what I.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So along the same line says love is blind. So
along the same lines as love is Blind. The crazy
thing to me is that that was so long ago,
to the point where she met someone, got to know someone,
got pregnant with someone, had the baby with someone, and
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the baby.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Is like, how old? Three months? Three months old? So
that's wild it was a year and a half a
time so long ago.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
They finished filming in April, Yes, last year.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It was a year and a half ago.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
And then why are we taking forever to get It's
a season that is so crazy, that is ridiculous. And
I think about it with selling Sunset Too, got out
of Brave Heart, Yeah, I think about it with selling
Sunset Too. Where they're right now talking about friends Giving.
I'm like, this was a year ago, so like the
(37:56):
fire and the fires, Yeah, I'm like, why are we
talking about this right now? Why did we not get
a season in spring? Why can't the editors just like,
why can't they?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Why can't want to work?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Nobody wants to work. Everyone's an influencer. It's because those
girls don't sell real estate. They only him in the
office like one month of the year and they.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I know, but the editing should be quicker. Love is blind.
Nobody got married first season. That's ever happened. That's true
love Jordan.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
But I really liked this cat like I thought they
were all very interesting, Like it was good TV, Like
I've enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I agree, no one should have gotten married. I kind
of wanted Megan and Jordan. Those were the.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Only two that I thought would I was on the
fence with him. I didn't know if he would. I
think he would have, but yeah, I mean the fact
that he introduced.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Her Anton and Ally no now.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
KB and Edmund hell no, hell no, no, that was her.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
She was playing his mother. Yeah, Like it was weird
to watch.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It was hard to watch because it's like, I don't
think they should have casted this man who clearly has
a lot of trauma, and like, I don't know, like
I just felt like it was like a little bit
of a showcasing a vulnerable person.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I know, I agree it was a bit. It was
too it was too much. But yeah, I liked him
and like, yeah, I like him as a person. But
I think, and I agree that what.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Were you gonna say?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I think he had like redeeming qualities and I just
don't think like you put someone who has that much
trauma in like an experiment like that, and where the
whole point is, like you either leave someone at the
altar or you get married, and he's like not fully
developed to get married in my opinion, or he's going
to experience rejection again, which he's experienced his.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Entire life, right, Vanessa La say, I have to say,
actually said something that I really agreed with and thought
it was deep and important to point out that. She
was like, Edmond, you have had all these traumatic instances
and like sometimes and she said, speaking from personal you know,
(40:12):
experience is you block things out and you forget things,
but you don't do it intentionally, but it's your brain's
fight or flight mode, Like it's protecting you that you
block things out and you forget that something happened, and
like you're doing it to protect yourself and it's from
all this trauma, and like that's absolutely what was happening.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
When he's like I don't I don't.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I don't say that, or like I don't remember this
or whatever, and she's like explaining to him, and I
was like, I think she said it in a really
respectful way. And also it was just so spot on
that like he's like, I'm not being manipulative, and it's
like you don't understand that you are, though, yeah, like
you are, you are, but you can't see like why
(40:57):
you're doing it, Like the intent on why you're doing
it's not malicious to see, but it was really sad
to see it's like, we know why you're doing it,
and it's not because you're being malicious, it's because of
what you've gone through and this is your innate response.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
And so he's like, I don't mean to do it
like that, Like I'm not trying to be we I
feel that, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
It's just I think KB and him at the reunion though,
like handled everything so well.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Was very proud of them.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I feel like for bringing notes like I would have
done the same thing, no shame, and bringing some notes
and being like all right, I'm gonna get it. I'm
gonna get this right. Yeah, it's been a year and
a half. Like, remember, I'm gonna get this right. I'm
gonna refer back to my notes. This is what it
felt like. Yeah, you've moved on at a certain point. Yeah,
so long ago.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
But it was like it was a letdown of like
no one getting married. But it was a good season.
Joe was loved Joe racking me up.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I loved Joe. He was like, we have and we fight.
Yeah that's a relationship. That was it.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
He's not wrong, she isn't not sin is not over him,
She's not made like she is so mad at.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Him still it's been a year and a half. It's
been a year and a half and you're not over
him for four weeks exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Like I get you're like trying on wedding dresses, but
like you understand, yeah that you just met this man.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
You just met him, and the premise is like he
could also say no, yeah, like yes he proposed to you,
but like now you're getting to know each other outside
of it, and like nothing is guaranteed. Nothing is guaranteed
in this show, and they're very clear about that.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Is love blind? Do you think love is blind?
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I think that, yes, I think that if you remain blind,
So there's that Like these people fell in love with
someone without saying them absolutely, I agree, But like if
you see them and you're not physically like there is
a physical aspect, I agree also, so like if you're
(42:58):
attracted to them, also, wow, incredible. But like if you
want to have a penpal for the rest of your
life and that is your relationship, then yes.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Obviously your emotional connection should be way stronger than your
physical because or physics fade looks fade, looks fade as
you get older, and like that's not always going to
be there and.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Mass physics science. We're so smart. I don't know why
I got me Sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Anyways anyway, But I do think like in the beginning,
like love really isn't blind in the beginning, especially with
not if you're gonna you plan on seeing them, you
keep going back to the back unless you're actually less you're.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Literally choosing to never see them.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Then it's they're also a physical aspect.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, it's just like that's literally all.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
You hear everyone talking about it on like different podcasts
and like this show is leve blind.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I'm like, well, you're introducing them to each other, so
like at.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Some point, no, yeah, like it goes beyond because you're
introducing a physical so like no.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Science, you can't, it's just science. It's you can't.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
You can't tell me that you can just like somebody
so much and emotionally and then you see them and
they are just so unattractive, so unattractive.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
To you, and you're to you, to you, and you're
okay with that.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
There's no way you can't fall in love with someone
without speaking or without seeing each other. Because even like
the Anton thing, like you got to see how they move. Yeah,
they like how they walk around, how they handle themselves.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So true. She was like I didn't see how.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
He was reacting. I didn't like she didn't see his
body language. He was getting emotional, like she could just
hear him, but she couldn't see what was happening. So
like makes sense. We're over here, like.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Girl, what what? And she's like I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yeah, exactly, a lot of people watch The Love is Blind,
they watch the Pods part not looking.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
How do you do that? I don't know. How do
you do that? Put a blanket over your Yes, they do,
but couldn't be me. Couldn't be me because love is
not bline. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
That is kind of crazy though if you were to
do it, but like you wouldn't know because they don't
make it that way.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
So like they're not saying this is Joey.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
They're just putting his name up or joe They're just
putting his name up like you can read it, So like,
how would you know?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
He's such a witch, He's such a Joe. I love him.
He was cracking.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
It was so funny when he had that panic attack,
tying on Texas, trying on Texas.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I was like I know.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
I was like, oh, but but by the way, that's
the most real anyone's been during trying on Texas.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
What blows my mind about love is blind is on
their wedding day they are still talking it up to
the camera as if they are going to marriage.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I know I could never fake that. No, I could
never either.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
On the day of my wedding, I'm getting ready and
they're like, I don't know, I love him, I love him,
and if I'm like, I know, I'm not gonna say
yes this man, I am not able to like put
out that just like act of but it.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Ali and Anton went on Nick Miles's podcast, You listen
to it, Yeah, and I just think, like it was
it was really nice to actually hear two people's stories
line up.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, like what she.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Originally said and then what he said confirmed what she said,
like they were being truthful, like their stories matched, and
like she truly was like I don't know, yeah, but
I don't necessarily disagree with her either, for like, I
don't think she did it for clout or I don't
think she did it for screen time.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
But I do think though there's got to be something
in their contract that they like to make more money
if they get to the altar.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
There's gotta be don't you think. Yeah, there's got to
be some sort of incentive to do this. Yeah, to
get all the way, to get all the way to
the yah.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Some of those people knew way before that they weren't
going to marry them, but they still went to the altar.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
You know, I never I never remember that we're on video,
You and I, You and I right.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Now, I have been staring at you.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I've been doing this. I've been just moving around. That's
just natural.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
We really are just so authentic girlies having shitty chats.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Shitty chats, and I'd probably have been viewed at some
weird angles. Yeah, because this camera is awkward.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
What else?
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I feel like this has been such a fruitful episode.
How only have we been recording almost an hour?
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
We did it, We did it? Is there anything else
that we're missing?
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Like?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Pop culture wise, people just announced sexiest man Alive?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Who is it?
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Jonathan Bailey? And I actually like it from Wicked? The
what's his name? In Wicked? He's in Bridgerton, He's in
Why can't I think of like look at his say
he's stunning. I do, and it like made more sense
to me because he's kind of like in like an
it guy right now. I think he's also maybe the
(48:11):
first like sexual man. He is handsome, he's so handsome.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I know who this man is.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Look at the People's Sexiest Man Life, like the pictures
they released, Like, go to Instagram, go to People magazine.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Okay, because the pictures are stunning.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Okay, everyone go look it up. Anyways, I support that choice.
What else?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
No, I was going to say something, do you did
you even watch the Golden Bachelor?
Speaker 2 (48:39):
No? Not on me?
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Is that not crazy? I can't never not. I've never
missed a season.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I mean I started late late, I started way way
way late.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
But but you were committed then, Yeah, I've always been committed.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
And I went back.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, I went back I think all the way to
What was the first one that I watch?
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I think it was Pablo. Okay, sit on my foot
one Pablo. What did I say? Pablo? I think he
was the first one because whose season was he on?
I can't remember who was before him? Andy? He was
on Andy season? Oh I watched that? Wasn't he on
Andy season? No?
Speaker 3 (49:17):
I don't think so, I don't know. Anyways, Anyway, I
didn't watch Golden Baucheler.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I didn't either.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
When they did not fire that man after he was
on a podcast, I said, you have lost my view.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Agreed. I know. It's like, actually such a good photo show.
Oh I love him. I love this. Oh with the
dog the cart jacket.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
I know.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Oh it's good, It's good. And then Barack Obama. My gosh,
I had a dream last night that someone announced you
Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, but he didn't. This is not breaking news. Yeah,
I just that was the weirdest thing. That is kind
of crazy. It was what dreams are? Weird dreams are?
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, and I just not weird.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
One of my friends had a dream about last night
that I was like nine months pregnant and it was
going on a mission trip and then decided to like
miss the mission trip and go to Switzerland in staid
and I'm not really sure what that means. She was like,
does that mean anything to you? And I was like,
not really.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Such this resonate with you, but I'll worry about it.
Do you have any plan stripped? I'll ask God what
I planned? Plan strips? We're so we can't even speak.
It's been a while since we've.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Focused, I know, well, to the people, Yeah, to all
the people.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
The people.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
All right, Well, I don't know when I'm going to
be back, y'all, but my mom is back.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
So but we're not making promises. I'm I'm it's holidays.
I'm done making promises.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Also, just like, just consider us postmenopausal women, Like we
are not apologizing for anything. We are putting ourselves first
other than like you have kids, you know, but like
but like you.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Know, we're just not gonna say we're not gonna be
yes men.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I think that's maybe the title of the episode is
consider us postmenopausal with melody why man, absolutely shod? I
say that right, menopausal min apostle. I didn't feel right
when I said it.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Pauls Sorry, all right, my.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I love you so much and I don't know when
I'll be back, but I'll talk to you maybe soon.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Okay, Bye.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Thanks for listening to Heart and Soul. If this episode
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Speaker 2 (51:30):
Talk to you next week.
You're listening to the Heart and Soul Podcast with Catherine Banko.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're back. Did you miss me? Wait?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
What's that Kardashian sound? Did you miss us? Because we
missed you?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Is that a Kardashian It's like a clip from the Kardashians.
It went on TikTok. Anyways, Heart and Soul is back. Yes,
I've been gone a month, and honestly, no, I'm not
sorry because.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I didn't have any childcare. So how am I supposed
to record an episode that sounds I don't know good
with children screaming in the back, screaming growing up.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But Melody's back with me here, Melody wise. Men, I
I'm the only and.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We're just gonna shoot the crap and talk about pop
culture things and catch up on life and love it.
Hopefully give you something to listen to you today.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you know, just something that can bring you joy. Yeah,
some little a little bit of light, A little bit
of light. How you doing, I'm doing great.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I will preface with we've been talking for almost an
hour before press record. So there's some things like you know,
we already caught up on. But but I've been good.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know, life's like normal.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Didn't you travel again somewhere? I mean we did go
to Jersey. No, you went somewhere else. Have I talked
to you since you went to Sicily? Have you been
on the podcast though, I've talked to Yeah, I think so, Okay,
I think I came back and we recorded, we recorded, Okay, Well,
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I was Jersey. Jersey was great.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Mikey's grandfather turned ninety five, so we had a big party.
Hug George, No, not George. This is pop pop Dave
other side, yep, other side.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Both his grandparents he.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Still has, well, not his his pop Pop's wife passed away.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, yeah, do you have your grandparents?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I have two grandparents. My dad's parents are both still alive.
My mom's dad passed away when I was young, really
really young, and then my mom's mom passed away this year.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's what I went to Germany. That's right. Yeah, I
don't have any grand home really.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, but I guess I'm older than like, you're not
that old, right, but like my so, my dad's parents
passed away when I was like in fifth and sixth grade.
Oh wow, that's still like really young.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They were young.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Though, but like she smoked like million cigarettes a day
and you know, just like didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Really yeah, like we kind of they were younger.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And then my grandma, I guess she lived till I
was what twenty When did I get engaged?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Eight?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And then my oh my grandpa, her husband died when
I was twenty two.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Wow, you were young. Yeah, I'm sorry, it was okay.
It's kind of like a do you miss them? I do, Yeah,
I miss my I especially miss my grandma that I
like really really.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Need, right exactly, Yeah, the one that yeah, grandma an
granmi a yeah, my old roomy. It's kind of a
weird way to start the podcast, but like you know,
there are weirder ways we could have started the podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Go there, we could.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I do want to apologize for not well, no, like
I'm not sorry apologized. I want to explain to you
why So. The last episode that we released was on
the week of Life of a show Girl and Taylor
Thomas was the guest, and we broke down the album
and then I haven't been back since, and I do.
I'm not sure if at the end of that episode,
(03:51):
if I promised you I would be back soon, But
if I did, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I have.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Just my mom's been gone. Usually, my mom's.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Here like every three weeks for three weeks at a time,
so it's like I can kind of like pile up episodes.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But my mom has gone for almost two months, and
what a life. She was living her best life, like
she went to Europe for a month and she deserves it.
And whenever she's gone, I don't have access to childcare.
That's my excuse, and I feel like it's a great one. Yeah, Honestly,
nobody DM me either, So I'm not even sure if
(04:25):
anyone listens to the podcast anymore to like say like, hey,
are you coming back?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Whatever? We're here, Yeah, what are you watching for? One
watched Love is Blind? Me too? That is to talk
about that. We need to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I am watching Potomac Love It Eat It Up, Salt
Lake City, Salt Lake City, Beat It Up.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Can't get enough? I know. Do you watch Selling Sunset? Yes,
but I've.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Only watched the first three episodes. It's four episodes, which
like we're insane. Anyway, there was like a sea season
in and of itself. The first three episodes were insane.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Let's start there because oh my, because you were talking
about Burkins. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about Burkins about
car payments, and then like just kind of realizing that
people buy bags that are the same price as a car,
and if not, what good for them?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Good for you? Good for you if you can do it,
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And you know what, I thought about this the other
day because of selling Sunset.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
When I been thinking about when Bree.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Puts her bag on the ground and it's a Burkin
and she's like, oh my gosh, I think I've committed
a cardinal sin, Like this is probably awful, but whatever.
And I am that person that I just feel like,
if you can't enjoy a large purchase, you probably shouldn't
make that purchase. Like I'm the type of person that like, yes,
(05:53):
I get taking care of your things. I understand, like
you want to take care of your stuff, but stuff
is just stuff and it's supposed to be used. Like
I think of people who love shoes.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right, if you are.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Buying really expensive shoes and not wearing them, keeping them
in the box or just like yeah, people so delicate
with I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Shouldn't buy those shoes. What's the point? Like, wear them,
enjoy them, use them. Like I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I just I feel like if you're not, if you're
not using those things to the fullest, you're not gonna
if you don't lose it, lose it, give it to me,
to me.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'll use it. I will use it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
The amount of times we've bought like some nice shoes
Mikey and I love, like some nice sneakers whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And I'll be like, Okay, I'm gonna wear these, like
for this thing.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Like maybe I was like, I don't know, but then
I gotta go to the gym, so maybe I'll wear
them there. He's like, oh, are you crazy. I'm like no,
I'm these are sneakers.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's like when people buy or have, like a really
nice bottle of wine and they never.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Never drink it. Well, okay, there's a differing.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I understand open and saving for a special occasion, but
like we had this really nice bottle of wine and
like our first two anniversaries were like, let's just save
it for something else or like something what what?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, it's wine and like I get you know, people
save wine to age it. So like if you have
a specific type of wine and it's like, Okay, this
wine is going to taste really really good at like fifteen.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Years, then I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Save it and like in fifteen years you're probably going
to celebrate some sort of anniversary or something that's really.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Cool and open it. Then cool. But like other wines
that you're just like whoa, or candles like or people
don't burn candles. People don't burn care They just buy
the candles in and they're like, I'm not going to
burn it because then it'll go wy. It's well, then
you don't smell it. What's then? I've never heard of
that one, but that's crazy. People are crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Speaking of Mikey and wine, he posted that photo of
all the wine y'all got to delivered.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes we finally got it delivered yesterday.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
From Italy and I no idea, I replied, and I
said me want Okay, Money replied with have you listened
to Taylor's new album yet?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And I was like, Mikey, I love it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
He like completely disregarded the wine and was like, hey,
you know, it's been a month since your favorite artist
of all time released an album?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You heard it?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Literally, he told me.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
He's like, I can't wait for Catherine to respond at
literally anything so that he can say that to you.
He didn't want to say it for forever, like he
knows you listened not at midnight because like you were
asleep or are you We don't know, I really I
don't know, but exactly, but he was like, I know
(08:41):
she's listening to this, but I just want to ask
her so about like did you know that Taylor Swift
came out with a new album.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Mikey's like goal in life is just to torture me.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Have we talked about the egger Lett on this one?
I don't know if we have.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Mikey used to be a chef at this restaurant in
time called Drift, and that's where I would work when
I like worked from home, so I would go to
Drifts in the morning. I was there like every day.
I saw my keel like every day and he would
make well he started off like making me eggs or
like made me a bowl and he was like, hey,
(09:17):
I made an extra Yeah, like you want this, it's
like free breakfast?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, of course I do.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And like I would like open it and the egg
would either be like runny or like nothing. It was
just like egg grew lette, like you never knew what
kind of egg you were going to get.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And that's what he ended up calling it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It was like eggrow lett and he like made a
whole like thing of this but only with me, and
he'd be like, what, I don't know it was. It
went on for months, and that's kind of that was
the foundation of our relationship. Therefore the rest of our
relationship is just him roasting.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, and it worked. I can handle it. Like he's
a good roaster. He is a good roaster. He doesn't
take things too far. But Joe's barn Now kiss you
awfully a bit, but you're still my friend exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay, I want to talk about selling suns that okay,
even though you're only three episodes in, this isn't like a.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The beginning is crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
It's insane, Nicole or talking about les And did you
watch the dinner? Okay, I can't remember episode that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Was Lord, it was episode two and I my jaw
was on the ground the way that these women.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Are screaming in her face to get.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
At out and she will not stand out and she
would not get up and she's just standing firm in
her comment. And that was the crazy, one of the
craziest scenes I think I've ever seen in reality team.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I was watching this thinking like this might be the
best season of Selling Sunset just because of this scene.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yes, and Amansa being so funny sorry talking about the cocaine.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, but the look cocaine. It's so crazy. And she
literally was like looking the camera in the eye and
was lighted. Blow. So we're together. I don't like, oh, well,
you know.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And I get it when you know, Nicole Drane to
hold that over her head of like you've done things
too that you don't say, and it's like, well, Amansa
has kids, and yeah, I guess she doesn't want to
necessarily like throw that in everyone's faces when like this
show is about real estate. Like I'm sorry, yes, it's
about your real life too, But like, I guess, drugs
(11:29):
hasn't really come up for Amanza that she's got to
be like, but you've.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Done you know.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
When it did, she was like, yeah, I've done Yeah,
I've done it exactly. She doesn't need to go into
deep details of everything, but It's like it was just
so crazy Nicole try and hold that over her.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I genuinely think there's like a screw loose in Nicole's brain.
She will take zero accountability for anything she does. And
she says some pretty insane says and oh she in
the rest of the season too.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You don't know, I'm not going to well.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And she went on a podcast recently and doubled down.
They asked her, do you regret saying what you said
at that dinner Aboutell's parents, And she said no. I
felt that I was defending myself. I felt like I
had every right to. You know, she's she's pushing off
(12:21):
the blame like she's she's what did she say?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
She was blame shifting or like.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
At the dinner she was like, you're confused. Oh yeah,
She's like, you're confusing me with your parents. She's like,
I feel like she was. It starts with a D.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
She said, dead parents. No, no, no, what is the
word when you like diffuse? Do not diffuse? What is
the word when you delegate to detonate? No? Destroy is
when you just like confuse? I don't know. I don't
know either. Funny if I don't know, I don't know,
(13:01):
but anyway, she's insane.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
What I really want to talk about that what we
want to talk about is what's selling Sunset is. I'd like,
always thought it was fascinating how much each season these
women like morph their faces and their bodies to look
more la or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And like to see.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I've always thought, you know, the stark difference between even
Kroschelle from like season one to season nine. And for
me personally, I think Krischelle's work that she's had done
looks phenomenal. So I'm not gonna like greed.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm not gonna I'm using Kroschelle as an example, but
I don't think she looks bad correct. And I think
what is crazy though, is this brea thing.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
So there's this one scene I don't think you've seen
it yet where Bree has coffee with her sister. Oh
I saw that, Okay, okay, yeah, were you like y'all
look nothing to like, yeah, how are you sisters?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No? And I thought about that, And she has the
sister and I haven't looked at up any photos okay, okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
So the sister has like very defined features, like a
little bit of like a longer nose, like just like,
this looks nothing like breethe right, And I'm like, this
is weird, so oh, look it up.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Okay, look it up. Look up.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Just look up breed tsc or whatever her last name is,
before and after. When you see what Bree looked like
before before she had plastic surgery, you're gonna freak the
freak out. That's the same person. What that is the
same person that looks like the sister?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That does Oh my literally does look anything like her. Gosh,
not one part of it looks like Brie, you know what.
The only part that looks like her her eyes, her teeth.
I see she's not smiling here, but her teeth look
like she's got big teeth. Yeah, and they're very they're
very pretty teeth.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
But I start while I started looking up before and
afters of like pretty much everyone after that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And it made me really sad. Yeah, because I feel
like they've gotten in la.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I can't imagine living there, but they've just gotten so
caught up in status quos and like keeping up with
the Joneses, even like the Burkens, Like I kind of wonder,
did you listen, Like.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Who can afford these? Or who's renting them or like
totally it is interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Is this actually your back or if it is, how
much credit card debt.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Did you go into to keep up with the Jones?
Is for this?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You also want it because they show their commissions. They
ain't getting all that no mission, like they're showing.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I started looking.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
They're showing before the split. They're showing before the split.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
They're slit at least fifty to fifty at least with
the broke, and so I thought about that, and then
I was like, let's just go on zillow and look
up because you can search by an agent for sure, and.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Look up who's listening? Who's list is this? Are they
actually selling real estate?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Are?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I think they?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Richelle had had like one sale in years. I was
so confused. How many times that chick has rung a bell?
I was like, what didn't she?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Is she trying to sell JoJo's house? Apparently she sold that.
I didn't look up hers for this year. This was
last season. She had like no sales. Basically, Mary actually
sells real estate. Yes, well we all know Amansa's never
sold a house.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
No, well that's she's her?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah, which is the stager she stages everyone's home,
so are listing.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But but she started in real estate, but then.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
She moved away from that, so I think that she's like,
I wonder, my phone's the camera. So I wonder if
she gets a cut from every home that she like,
if they were to sell it, if she gets a
cut of the commission that No, I think she just
gets she just gets a salary. I would assume per
(16:57):
per house that she stages, she gets a that is
kind of wild paycheck.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Okay, can you on the app do this?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I don't know, like search by an agent, like you
can literally search agents name. I don't know if you
can on the appearch. I know you can on the
on the website.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Okay, maybe I just need to go on the website.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Anyways, look it up later, because it's kind of insane
how they've created this whole television show.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And the fact definitely going to look that up.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And the fact that the O Group or whatever their
name is, the O Group, there's like way more agents
oh yeah at this office, but they act to These
are just like the States.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's why I like they're so Taston and Brett are legit.
Yeah oh yeah, like they are truly business owners, like
this is their their bread and butter. Yes, exactly, like
they are legit. Like I like this show. I like
watching them and I like seeing what they're doing because
they truly this is their company. But in these different
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cities have to create. You have yes, and they have
their stage people, which I realize that show. I know
how reality TV works, but I still like it is
so crazy. I know what you mean, yeah, because it's
like sometimes these people are just on camera literally and
they're confessionals, probably just making up stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
For sure, you know. Yeah, that's reality TV. Ain't real.
It ain't real at all, And that's the iron irony
of it. Irony. Who's your least favorite? Cool? Okay, that's
a given. I can't. Okay, besides Nicole my least okay,
name them, name them? Okay. So we got Krishelle, we
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got Mary Amanza, three.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Emma, Chelsea missing.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Oh and that girl, that girl, new girl, New Girl. Sandra. Yeah,
I'm not even gonna count her Andra. No, she's it
seems like, yeah, I like her.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
She seems like a very normal person. But oh wait,
I was just real quick before we go into who
is least favorite? Back to the plastic surgery thing. I
think it's really funny because they've done all this work
on their faces and now I feel like the tables
are flipping.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They are the opposite. People are going way natural.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
People like don't want the overfilled and thank god because
it is crazy. It is creepy crazy when people are
getting like I think the cheeks is the most crazy part.
Like the cheeks like so like people just look so puffy,
pillow face. Like.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I also find that they look old.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They're doing something to make them look younger, but I
think it makes people look older and they have too
much done one thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Like you look back at what Larza looked like when
she was before all of her plastic surgery, and it's like,
she looks so young that and I said, yes, she
was young then because it's taken a while to like
get all the work done that she's had, it's been
years and whatever. But she just looks like a totally
different person and like she honestly looked like thinner yew.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You know what's crazy is like I was talking about
this with a client who watches selling sends out yesterday
kind of similar conversation and she was saying, like, what
what do you think they see? Like, how weird is
it when they look in the mirror and they're like, this, actually,
isn't what I look like?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Or have they just like reprogrammed their brain to be like, oh,
this is what I look like now.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I think that they've reprogrammed their brains.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Because if I'm Brie, I'm looking in the mirror and
be like, I know, anyway, after.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Your whole life looking in the.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Mirror and seeing someone different, totally different, I think it
just has taken so much time to.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Get there though.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
At I yeah, I just think like at some point,
like the first initial thing is like shocking, Like when
I got my lips done for the first time.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I was like, oh my god, what have I done? Like,
what is this? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Obviously you're swollen too, so I was just like, oh,
I've ruined my life. I've ruined my face, but life
everyone in my life. But eventually obviously it settles. But
like I think now when I've gotten like little touch
ups here and there, like it doesn't look so crazy
to me anymore. So I really and thankfully that is
all I've done. It's just like a little bit at
a time, right, a little bit out of time. But
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then yeah, then once you But that's the hard part
is like people then just like do a little bit
more and a little bit more, or like go a
little earlier than they need to, and they're like, oh,
I'll get all told a little bit more and then
let's just touch this up a little bit, and like
it just escapes you. And I really just don't think
it's drug. I think it is too like people like
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get addicted to, like like people get addicted in a
certain way, tattoos, like.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You get addicted to like injections.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, so okay, it's kind of crazy, but anyway, it's
a favorite I know mine besides Nicole immediately your face.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Wow, it's crazy that you know yours immediately. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I can't stand this chick. Oh wow, Chelsea, I cannot see. Really,
she's in my running. She's so fake, she's so high.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Like I watched her on What Happens Live though, and
I thought she was so funny and she just seems
so cool. And I think it was nice because it
was out of the show, like out of that element.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
It was just like her being interviewed by a normal person.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
But like everything on the TV show that she says
feels so scripted, but I agree, like a monologue in
her shower and she's just performing and she like it's
just you can tell she's just like.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I can totally say that. Oh see.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And before the Dinner episode, I would have said Chrishelle
is my least favorite because I was just I don't know,
she's just kind of like seems a little whiny, and
then like she later on too much.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
At the end of the season, I started not liking her.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh really yeah, but the Dinner I was like, good
for you sticking up for yourself and honestly, good for
you for stirring up the pot, like because she kind
of seemed a little boring to me and like a.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Little too goodie, too shoey to me, Like all right,
like come on, get it, get into it, get in there.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I think my favorites are Mary Amanza and maybe Alana
because she's just so unproblematic.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, I think that my favorites are. My two favorites
are Amanza and Brie. I like Free.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I just heard she's like completely different on camera off camera,
but how would I know. Also, speaking of Free, like
this Nick Cannon thing, like I know I've known about it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I know it's weird hearing her just be like, oh, Nick,
so like he has so many baby mamas.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Not just baby mamas, like active girlfriends. Oh so like
especially one of he's he's open. So I'm wondering if
she's open too. And he posts about it, like he
posts on his page him and open to and couple
of things with him and this other woman who he
has kids with.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, I'm I'm sure. I'm sure she's open to. I
can imagine, Like she doesn't seem like the type that
is very much like, okay, you can do whatever you want,
and I can't. No, She's very very forward with everything
and like has a lot of confidence, and so I
can absolutely see her being like, yeah, like when we're
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with our kid and like we have a really good
relationship and we can be lovey dovey and whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
But like also like maybe I'm gonna go on a date.
I cannot imagine doing that. Wa Naujalanty. You said that,
and his face is even convinced as I'm saying it.
I'm like, this is crazy, but it's insane.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But I'm like, that's probably what's happening, especially the fact
that he has kids with these other So this is
also what I was thinking too, because I got to
stalking Nick Cannon after I went down this like thoughtful
rabbit hole, and I'm stalking him.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
It was right after Halloween, and I'm like watching like
him trigger treating with one family that he's with the
baby mama and then Brie and her baby or their baby,
and I'm like, I don't even have time for my
for everything, for my own kids. How is this man
he has like what twelve fourteen kids? How is he
jumping from home to home doing Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmases?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know what I mean? That's a really good point.
I thought about that, And is it like those poor kids?
Is all I got to say? What an easy way
to grow up? Like definitely still working like he does.
He's some things.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He's got money, yeah yeah, yeah, he's got money. He's
buying brees, he is supporting brides.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think he's a host of some show.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
America's got talent, right, Oh, shut up, that's it, you're right.
I could not think of what it was. I was like,
I swear he's I see him.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah out there, okay, yeah, yeah, that's a and you
know he's birkins and stuff. So part of me is like,
she's just into this open relationship because she's getting things.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Oh for sure, for sure, and you know she's smoking
it because she's like I had your baby.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, like justifying that I deserve this.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I need to know what goes on behind closed doors,
like I need I know. I did we spend this
time talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, I didn't know you would questions. I have so
many questions about their Zillow pages there before and afters
and Nick Cannon.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Nick Cannon, what did you What did you guys do
for Halloween? We went trigger treating at our friends. Oh
my gosh, your costume is hilarious. We went trigger treating
at our friends neighborhood because they have like really they
go all out for Halloween, so like kids, like a
hay ride from house to house, golf carts and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It was fine. It's like third year in a row
we've done it there.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
But William is a policeman, Coco was a convict, and
we were like pseudo policemen.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, had hats and glasses for sure, and badges. Yeah,
it's about them. It's all about them. It's all about them.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Poor Coco though, like she this is her second Halloween,
her first Halloween.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
It's just dictated on what William wants to be at
this Yeah, so it's like whatever he is going to
be the last year.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So he she was a dinosaur, right, oh, for her
first ever. She wasn't an egg. She was a disaur
egg and she was a little dinosaur. She was a
pink one and she looked like a dude in the costume.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
This year again, we did a trunk retreat on Sunday
before Halloween, and like they wore their costumes there and
she was a convict and not one person said, oh,
she's so cute. Every time he is so cute. And
I'm like this poor girl all the time, whenever she
is able to speak, like she's gonna be like make
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me a princess, take me something, or to be like
whatever he is.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
And then I've been around.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Friends where like people have called their kids by the
wrong thing, and it's just funny to see how some
people respond and they're like, so.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
William gets called a girl every single day, which to
an extent I understand because he has long hair, and
the only thing I don't understand is at this point,
he's not like a baby like he's four. He's an
actual boy. He wears boy clothes. Yeah, he just has long,
curly hair.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, it's not like like I don't look at him
and think that looks like a like a girl. Yeah, exactly,
because I raised him.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I gets I'm sorry now. And she's so pretty. Yeah,
that's weird.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
She's so pretty. She's so pretty. She's dressed like Adam Sandler.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
She is.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
She's dressed like a scrub. We think if I had
a girl, I guess I do, and I did dress
her like a boy.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Anyways, your Halloween costume was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
It was so fun. You really like it was method acting. Yeah,
you played the part. I did play the part. It
was really really fun. It's not often you get to
be a Jersey Shore member. Yeah, so she was Snookie
for all those wondering. It was honestly, like, Mikey and
I never do anything for Halloween because we don't have
friends that do Halloween parties. We're not dressed, Like, where
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do you go, Like I'm a trick or treating? Why
would you ever dress up unless you have a kid
or you have an event to go to. I'm not
spending twenty three dollars on a costume of some sort.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Or whatever for no reason. For what for me and
Mikey to hang on all the couch like asbout candy. Yeah,
as about candy.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So this year our friends had a Halloween party and
so we were like, oh my gosh, we get to
actually dress up. And I don't love Halloween. I've never
because I've had nothing to do. I'm like, I'm dressing
up like I'm don't do anything. Mikey and I for
the past month have been rewatching Jersey Shore, so that's
what else I'm watching. You put that on my desk
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and so I was like, I am basically five feet tall,
so I.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Could be snooky and this is great.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Like and I told Mike, I was like, whatever we
do because I hardly have any hair.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I was like, I want to wear wit you have to? Yeah,
I have to.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So I was like, whatever we do, need a wig.
So got out the stuff and honestly it was so fun,
Like clarious, I love dressing up. Now everyone someone needs
to throw a Halloween party every year because it's just
so fun. Not having to apologize for any of your
actions because you were pretending to be somebody else.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You're being a character. Like someone asked me, They're like, oh,
you snooky, you know what I said.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
And walked away and danced, and like the videos of
you dancing, whoever captured those, I was cracking up you
and those ug boots and you kept looking down and being.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Like yeah, because yeah, she I broke. I did a
little break dancing at one point closer to the end
of the night and not a lot of people were
around because you know, it was in her dress.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
But she wouldn't have cared, so I had to do it.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
He literally did back handsprings in one of at the
bar in one episode, and I was like, Okay, not
going to go that far.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But and then Mikey was Lord Farquad, and then Mikey.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Was Lord Farquad, which he was last year, and he
just had the costume, so he was like, I'll do
that again.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Surprised he wasn't like Mike the situation. Yeah, I know.
I just I was like, you know what, I we
don't need to do a couple's costumes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I was like, I want to be snooky and if
you He was just like, I just want to be
a Lord Farquad because I have it, perfick.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So it was great that yeah, yeah, we enjoyed okay,
Salt Lake City. See this season, there's not one episode
that I've been like the same.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That was when does it come out like we're okay tonight?
Okay good?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So you're caught up like yes, the first episode on
the yes insane?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So good?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Do you think that Lisa Barlow is the one who
snitched for sure?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Me too? Because she acts guilty all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
There's no reason why somebody would act the way that
she's acting if they weren't guilty.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I have so much to say about this past episode.
That moment, I was so proud of Heather me too,
even though she was wasted, She was so wasted. I
was so proud of her finally standing up to someone.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
She's such like a like, she doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
A backbone with these like main characters, and so finally
for her to be like, I actually am a main character.
I should step up and say something. I was very
proud of her, And Bronwyn was so savage with sitting
down for dinner, rooming with Brittany and immediately looking at
Mary and saying this is what Brittany just said about you.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, like insane, that was insane behavior.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
No shame, no shame.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And then Meredith doing her like you are vile move again,
like she just like has three lines.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I know all she wants to do is throw water
on Brittany.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, Brittany Unicorn hilarious and the like the editors are
doing the most for Salt Lake City, and I just
like applaud them wholeheartedly with like them starting the episode
with like a flash forward of this unicorn in the
water Man is great, hilarious, so funny. And whenever they
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like bounce back to what someone said, like lying about
what which proves that they're lying about what they're saying
right now is so good they always have the footage.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Also, I just I really think that it was really
good for Angie and Mary's friendship that Mary stayed with Angie.
I agree, Like I love that Mary didn't care that
Angie was feeling sick. Like obviously I know the I
get vertigo a lot and I won't say a lot,
but like I've gotten it more than I should. Yeah,
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and it is the worst feeling in the world. So
like her feeling this like sea sickness type thing, like
I know what she's feeling. The last thing you want
to do is open your eyes first of all, so
like I know she's laying their eyes closed, not really
talking probably much.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And Mary's like just sitting here, pull.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
The clothed and eat my food, like she was trying
go upstairs and have dinner.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And and Angie would have been fine. I know she
would have been fine, been like, oh, spend time with
the girls whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Mary's were like, no, I'm not going to be a
bad time with the girls. Like I just think it
was so good that they got to like reconnect because
they did have that little, like, you know issue.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And then I.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Also thought it was like hilarious when they would like
flash to Mary and Angie in the bed and they
would hear people screaming and they're like, do you hear that?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Who's screaming? Who's that? Who? Is so funny? So funny,
so good. I just like love, I love both of
them so much.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I'm so happy that they just like had that moment
together and they could like.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, just I love every I love this show. I
love this show.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I look forward to it every single week. Say, I
think it's so good. I think it is the best franchise.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Same. Do you watch Potomac? No, someone told me to
just start though, like this season, but.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, actually, yeah you should start the season. Honestly, did
I get it?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay, do it. It's new. It just came out so
I could. Yes, and they've added a couple new people.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Okay, you should just do it. Yeah, Like that's what
I did with Beverly Hills. I just started in twenty twenty,
like Cold Turkey. Same thing with Vanner Pump Rules.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh you know what else I'm watching. I'm starting. I'm
on season two Southern Charm. Great show. I can't win.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
The first couple of seasons so good with Thomas Ravenal
Thomas and Catherine.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
What an icon she spells an't even the same way
as me. I know she does.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
That was when Southern Time and Craig was just like
such a boy.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, he's such a boy. And I'm watching it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I'm like, I've only known Craig on Summer House and
so it's weird seeing Craig right now.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And I'm like he's a one.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, And I'm like, please don't like try and fit
in with these crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
People like don't gosh, do it as Cameron. I love camera.
It was great.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So anymore know her and her and Shep we're besties
like the most, like Randall, they were bestie.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I love the beginning of Southern Term. It's still good.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It's just not Yeah, I'm excited for Astin to come on.
He hasn't come on yet. Whitney skeeves me out and
that's it. Yeah anyway, but Potomac just start the season.
It is so good, like Potomac and Salt Lake are
two of my faves. They are just so good. I
love Giselle.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
You need to watch Okay, what else did you watch?
Nobody's blind? Love is blind? Love is blind? At this point?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Like what a failure of a season? Did you watch
the reunion? Yeah, okay, she has a baby. She has
a baby. Okay, Oh this is what I.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So along the same line says love is blind. So
along the same lines as love is Blind. The crazy
thing to me is that that was so long ago,
to the point where she met someone, got to know someone,
got pregnant with someone, had the baby with someone, and
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the baby.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Is like, how old? Three months? Three months old? So
that's wild it was a year and a half a
time so long ago.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
They finished filming in April, Yes, last year.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It was a year and a half ago.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
And then why are we taking forever to get It's
a season that is so crazy, that is ridiculous. And
I think about it with selling Sunset Too, got out
of Brave Heart, Yeah, I think about it with selling
Sunset Too. Where they're right now talking about friends Giving.
I'm like, this was a year ago, so like the
(37:56):
fire and the fires, Yeah, I'm like, why are we
talking about this right now? Why did we not get
a season in spring? Why can't the editors just like,
why can't they?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Why can't want to work?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Nobody wants to work. Everyone's an influencer. It's because those
girls don't sell real estate. They only him in the
office like one month of the year and they.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I know, but the editing should be quicker. Love is blind.
Nobody got married first season. That's ever happened. That's true
love Jordan.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
But I really liked this cat like I thought they
were all very interesting, Like it was good TV, Like
I've enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I agree, no one should have gotten married. I kind
of wanted Megan and Jordan. Those were the.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Only two that I thought would I was on the
fence with him. I didn't know if he would. I
think he would have, but yeah, I mean the fact
that he introduced.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Her Anton and Ally no now.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
KB and Edmund hell no, hell no, no, that was her.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
She was playing his mother. Yeah, Like it was weird
to watch.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It was hard to watch because it's like, I don't
think they should have casted this man who clearly has
a lot of trauma, and like, I don't know, like
I just felt like it was like a little bit
of a showcasing a vulnerable person.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I know, I agree it was a bit. It was
too it was too much. But yeah, I liked him
and like, yeah, I like him as a person. But
I think, and I agree that what.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Were you gonna say?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I think he had like redeeming qualities and I just
don't think like you put someone who has that much
trauma in like an experiment like that, and where the
whole point is, like you either leave someone at the
altar or you get married, and he's like not fully
developed to get married in my opinion, or he's going
to experience rejection again, which he's experienced his.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Entire life, right, Vanessa La say, I have to say,
actually said something that I really agreed with and thought
it was deep and important to point out that. She
was like, Edmond, you have had all these traumatic instances
and like sometimes and she said, speaking from personal you know,
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experience is you block things out and you forget things,
but you don't do it intentionally, but it's your brain's
fight or flight mode, Like it's protecting you that you
block things out and you forget that something happened, and
like you're doing it to protect yourself and it's from
all this trauma, and like that's absolutely what was happening.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
When he's like I don't I don't.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I don't say that, or like I don't remember this
or whatever, and she's like explaining to him, and I
was like, I think she said it in a really
respectful way. And also it was just so spot on
that like he's like, I'm not being manipulative, and it's
like you don't understand that you are, though, yeah, like
you are, you are, but you can't see like why
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you're doing it, Like the intent on why you're doing
it's not malicious to see, but it was really sad
to see it's like, we know why you're doing it,
and it's not because you're being malicious, it's because of
what you've gone through and this is your innate response.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
And so he's like, I don't mean to do it
like that, Like I'm not trying to be we I
feel that, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
It's just I think KB and him at the reunion though,
like handled everything so well.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Was very proud of them.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I feel like for bringing notes like I would have
done the same thing, no shame, and bringing some notes
and being like all right, I'm gonna get it. I'm
gonna get this right. Yeah, it's been a year and
a half. Like, remember, I'm gonna get this right. I'm
gonna refer back to my notes. This is what it
felt like. Yeah, you've moved on at a certain point. Yeah,
so long ago.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
But it was like it was a letdown of like
no one getting married. But it was a good season.
Joe was loved Joe racking me up.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I loved Joe. He was like, we have and we fight.
Yeah that's a relationship. That was it.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
He's not wrong, she isn't not sin is not over him,
She's not made like she is so mad at.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Him still it's been a year and a half. It's
been a year and a half and you're not over
him for four weeks exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Like I get you're like trying on wedding dresses, but
like you understand, yeah that you just met this man.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
You just met him, and the premise is like he
could also say no, yeah, like yes he proposed to you,
but like now you're getting to know each other outside
of it, and like nothing is guaranteed. Nothing is guaranteed
in this show, and they're very clear about that.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Is love blind? Do you think love is blind?
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I think that, yes, I think that if you remain blind,
So there's that Like these people fell in love with
someone without saying them absolutely, I agree, But like if
you see them and you're not physically like there is
a physical aspect, I agree also, so like if you're
(42:58):
attracted to them, also, wow, incredible. But like if you
want to have a penpal for the rest of your
life and that is your relationship, then yes.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Obviously your emotional connection should be way stronger than your
physical because or physics fade looks fade, looks fade as
you get older, and like that's not always going to
be there and.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Mass physics science. We're so smart. I don't know why
I got me Sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Anyways anyway, But I do think like in the beginning,
like love really isn't blind in the beginning, especially with
not if you're gonna you plan on seeing them, you
keep going back to the back unless you're actually less you're.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Literally choosing to never see them.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Then it's they're also a physical aspect.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, it's just like that's literally all.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
You hear everyone talking about it on like different podcasts
and like this show is leve blind.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I'm like, well, you're introducing them to each other, so
like at.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Some point, no, yeah, like it goes beyond because you're
introducing a physical so like no.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Science, you can't, it's just science. It's you can't.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
You can't tell me that you can just like somebody
so much and emotionally and then you see them and
they are just so unattractive, so unattractive.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
To you, and you're to you, to you, and you're
okay with that.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
There's no way you can't fall in love with someone
without speaking or without seeing each other. Because even like
the Anton thing, like you got to see how they move. Yeah,
they like how they walk around, how they handle themselves.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So true. She was like I didn't see how.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
He was reacting. I didn't like she didn't see his
body language. He was getting emotional, like she could just
hear him, but she couldn't see what was happening. So
like makes sense. We're over here, like.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Girl, what what? And she's like I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yeah, exactly, a lot of people watch The Love is Blind,
they watch the Pods part not looking.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
How do you do that? I don't know. How do
you do that? Put a blanket over your Yes, they do,
but couldn't be me. Couldn't be me because love is
not bline. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
That is kind of crazy though if you were to
do it, but like you wouldn't know because they don't
make it that way.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
So like they're not saying this is Joey.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
They're just putting his name up or joe They're just
putting his name up like you can read it, So like,
how would you know?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
He's such a witch, He's such a Joe. I love him.
He was cracking.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
It was so funny when he had that panic attack,
tying on Texas, trying on Texas.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I was like I know.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
I was like, oh, but but by the way, that's
the most real anyone's been during trying on Texas.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
What blows my mind about love is blind is on
their wedding day they are still talking it up to
the camera as if they are going to marriage.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I know I could never fake that. No, I could
never either.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
On the day of my wedding, I'm getting ready and
they're like, I don't know, I love him, I love him,
and if I'm like, I know, I'm not gonna say
yes this man, I am not able to like put
out that just like act of but it.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Ali and Anton went on Nick Miles's podcast, You listen
to it, Yeah, and I just think, like it was
it was really nice to actually hear two people's stories
line up.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, like what she.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Originally said and then what he said confirmed what she said,
like they were being truthful, like their stories matched, and
like she truly was like I don't know, yeah, but
I don't necessarily disagree with her either, for like, I
don't think she did it for clout or I don't
think she did it for screen time.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
But I do think though there's got to be something
in their contract that they like to make more money
if they get to the altar.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
There's gotta be don't you think. Yeah, there's got to
be some sort of incentive to do this. Yeah, to
get all the way, to get all the way to
the yah.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Some of those people knew way before that they weren't
going to marry them, but they still went to the altar.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
You know, I never I never remember that we're on video,
You and I, You and I right.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Now, I have been staring at you.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I've been doing this. I've been just moving around. That's
just natural.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
We really are just so authentic girlies having shitty chats.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Shitty chats, and I'd probably have been viewed at some
weird angles. Yeah, because this camera is awkward.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
What else?
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I feel like this has been such a fruitful episode.
How only have we been recording almost an hour?
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
We did it, We did it? Is there anything else
that we're missing?
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Like?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Pop culture wise, people just announced sexiest man Alive?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Who is it?
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Jonathan Bailey? And I actually like it from Wicked? The
what's his name? In Wicked? He's in Bridgerton, He's in
Why can't I think of like look at his say
he's stunning. I do, and it like made more sense
to me because he's kind of like in like an
it guy right now. I think he's also maybe the
(48:11):
first like sexual man. He is handsome, he's so handsome.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I know who this man is.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Look at the People's Sexiest Man Life, like the pictures
they released, Like, go to Instagram, go to People magazine.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Okay, because the pictures are stunning.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Okay, everyone go look it up. Anyways, I support that choice.
What else?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
No, I was going to say something, do you did
you even watch the Golden Bachelor?
Speaker 2 (48:39):
No? Not on me?
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Is that not crazy? I can't never not. I've never
missed a season.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I mean I started late late, I started way way
way late.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
But but you were committed then, Yeah, I've always been committed.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
And I went back.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, I went back I think all the way to
What was the first one that I watch?
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I think it was Pablo. Okay, sit on my foot
one Pablo. What did I say? Pablo? I think he
was the first one because whose season was he on?
I can't remember who was before him? Andy? He was
on Andy season? Oh I watched that? Wasn't he on
Andy season? No?
Speaker 3 (49:17):
I don't think so, I don't know. Anyways, Anyway, I
didn't watch Golden Baucheler.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I didn't either.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
When they did not fire that man after he was
on a podcast, I said, you have lost my view.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Agreed. I know. It's like, actually such a good photo show.
Oh I love him. I love this. Oh with the
dog the cart jacket.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
I know.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Oh it's good, It's good. And then Barack Obama. My gosh,
I had a dream last night that someone announced you
Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, but he didn't. This is not breaking news. Yeah,
I just that was the weirdest thing. That is kind
of crazy. It was what dreams are? Weird dreams are?
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, and I just not weird.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
One of my friends had a dream about last night
that I was like nine months pregnant and it was
going on a mission trip and then decided to like
miss the mission trip and go to Switzerland in staid
and I'm not really sure what that means. She was like,
does that mean anything to you? And I was like,
not really.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Such this resonate with you, but I'll worry about it.
Do you have any plan stripped? I'll ask God what
I planned? Plan strips? We're so we can't even speak.
It's been a while since we've.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Focused, I know, well, to the people, Yeah, to all
the people.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
The people.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
All right, Well, I don't know when I'm going to
be back, y'all, but my mom is back.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
So but we're not making promises. I'm I'm it's holidays.
I'm done making promises.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Also, just like, just consider us postmenopausal women, Like we
are not apologizing for anything. We are putting ourselves first
other than like you have kids, you know, but like
but like you.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Know, we're just not gonna say we're not gonna be
yes men.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I think that's maybe the title of the episode is
consider us postmenopausal with melody why man, absolutely shod? I
say that right, menopausal min apostle. I didn't feel right
when I said it.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Pauls Sorry, all right, my.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I love you so much and I don't know when
I'll be back, but I'll talk to you maybe soon.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Okay, Bye.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Thanks for listening to Heart and Soul. If this episode
encouraged you in any way, please leave a review on
Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Talk to you next week.
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