hidden experience audio

hidden experience audio

The focus of these audio interviews is the deeply personal impact of UFO contact. Each episode features in-depth conversations with researchers, experiencers, and visionaries—all exploring the UFO mystery. This series has been a labor of love. New episodes are being added every month. There is a Patreon option with the same name, hosting special content for members. The show is hosted by Mike Clelland, the author of four books: The Messengers, Stories from The Messengers, Hidden Experience, and The Unseen. All are available as audiobooks.

Episodes

23. Kristen—Owls and transformation

October 16, 2025 • 89 mins
Kristen shared an experience with me in the autumn of 2006. We saw owls, and that event changed my life. She shares her memories and insights of those twilight moments, and a lot more. Her life has had its own challenges and new beginnings. Kristen played an important role in my story, and I've been wanting to do this interview for years. This is a lively conversation on life, wilderness, spirituality, and friendship. We talke...
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22. Joshua Cutchin—Voicing the Self

September 30, 2025 • 90 mins
This is a wide-ranging conversation with one of our great thinkers. Joshua Cutchin has published seven books in less than ten years, and each of these has pushed at the boundaries of how we understand the paranormal. This includes UFOs, cryptids, fairies, psi phenomenon, consciousness, the creative process, and death. We focus on the need to express our first person voice. There is no one I enjoy talking with more! Find Josh’s ...
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Terence McKenna and Kenneth Ring on UFOs and NDEs

September 18, 2025 • 17 mins
This is a short conversation between two extraordinary thinkers, Terence McKenna and Kenneth Ring. The book The Omega Project was written by Ring, and in it he explores the relationship between the UFO phenomenon and the Near Death Experience. This audio was lifted from a video shot in Prague, Czechoslovakia during the International Transpersonal Conference in June 1992, known at Prague Gnosis. This was initially posted on my Hidd...
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disclosure without a spark

September 13, 2025 • 8 mins
I started a substack account. I've been wanting to get back into blogging, and also to have a way to help promote my podcast. I wrote a short essay about my frustrations with how "disclosure" has dominated the entirety of the UFO community. It's titled Disclosure Without a Spark, the full text is linked HERE. My audio reading is above. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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21. Kelly Chase—Myth as Transformation

September 6, 2025 • 70 mins
“The UFO as evolutionary function, seeding new myths and meanings” This from Kelly Chase. We discuss her recent essay, Unfurling the Myth. This is an exploration into the deepest mystery, and why it seems to present itself as myth—with transformation as its inevitable outcome. Our previous conversation from January 2025 is essential listening, as well as Kelly’s reading of her insightful paper. Both are linked below. COSMOSIS...
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My twenty-minute talk from The Archives of the Impossible

August 13, 2025 • 24 mins
This is a short audio post, and it isn’t numbered because it’s not a formal interview.  Earlier this year, I gave a short talk about my work and my own experiences. This was at the Archives of the Impossible conference at Rice University in Houston, Texas. I was invited to this impressive event by Jeff Kripal and Karin Austin. I thank them at the beginning. I also said this was a big deal for me, and it was. The audio of my talk ...
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20. part TWO / Samantha Treasure—Out-of-body experiences, and an owl

August 13, 2025 • 56 mins
This follow-up conversation with Samantha was inspired by an owl. Really. The interview begins with me explaining why there needed to be a part two, and it involves an illustration created to match a psychic vision during meditation (see link below). This led to a deeper conversation on the fears, doubts, and challenges of UFO contact. Why do these elusive realms seem to overlap? Samantha’s book HERE Her blog, Zombies in...
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20. Samantha Treasure and the out-of-body experience

August 13, 2025 • 92 mins
Samantha has had a LOT of out-of-body experiences. She’s written a beautiful book, aptly titled OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES, with the subtitle Explorations and encounters with the astral plane. She plays dual roles as an author—academic researcher and poetic memoirist. She digs deep, vigilantly recounting her journeys within these mystical realms.This conversation has a Part Two, inspired by an owl (available soon). Samantha’s boo...
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19. Indi’s journey and the vital role of deer

June 12, 2025 • 102 mins
Animals, especially deer, play a powerful role within the contact experiences of Indi. This is a heartfelt and candid conversation with a woman who has endured a remarkable lifetime of mystical events. From emotional despair to a transformative Samadhi experience. Indi’s story is rich with meaning and hope, yet her journey has been challenging. UFOs, psychic knowing, giant glowing orbs, symbolic archetypes, and a four-foot tall ow...
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18. Rachel Stewart—from heartbreak to healing

May 10, 2025 • 113 mins
This was not an easy interview. Rachel’s story is heartbreaking, yet it's also a remarkable testament of hope and faith. Rachel and her husband Shane had a daughter, Kenadie. In 2018, they lost her to cancer. She was only ten years old, and grief shattered their lives. But amidst the darkness, signs began to appear—glimmers of hope, whispers of connection, and a path to something greater. Rachel now runs an instagram page titled f...
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Remembering Earl Grey

May 3, 2025 • 7 mins
Earl Grey passed on to a better place on April 27th. He was MUFON State Director for Southern California. He was a beloved comrade in this small community of researchers and experiencers. I only met him once, but we had the chance to speak together a few times. He told a beautiful owl story on an interview he hosted a little less than a year ago. This excerpt is less than eight minutes long, and it gives an insight into this gentle...
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17. Simon Bown - UFO contact and the near-death experience

April 25, 2025 • 91 mins
Simon is a very prolific podcaster with two shows: Our Paranormal Afterlife and The Alien UFO Podcast. He is also a hypnotherapist specializing in past-life regressions. And he just published a book, Verified Near Death Experiences. We explore the issues of consciousness continuing after death and the UFO contact experience, and how these two seemingly disparate studies overlap. Simon is remarkably well informed on these subjects,...
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16. Mindy Tautfest—from NDE to UAP

February 23, 2025 • 116 mins
How does the near-death experience overlap with UFO contact?  This show explores the remarkable parallels between these two mysterious phenomena. Yet there is more than just a checklist of similarities, there is a heartfelt story of transformation. Midy shares what happened to her, and how it changed everything. Her book, Dying to Meet Them is a testament to her powerful spiritual journey. Mindy's book HERE Her homepage HER...
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15. Kelly Chase—UFOs and the deeper self

January 8, 2025 • 96 mins
You might know Kelly from her very popular podcast—The UFO Rabbit Hole, but you might not know she wrote and starred in COSMOSIS, a three-part documentary series on UFOs. This is a deep exploration of a multi-layered phenomenon. (The series is found on AppleTV and most streaming services) Kelly is known as a methodical and disciplined researcher. Yet, you might not know about her own experiences and the depth of her spiritual sens...
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14. Shayla Paradeis—Wilderness, healing, and owls

December 11, 2024 • 92 mins
Shayla is an author, musician, and zealous mountain traveler. She has accomplished the triple crown of the long trails, which is a remarkable achievement, both mentally and physically. She has also had owl experiences that have changed the direction of her life. This is a remarkably thoughtful and gentle conversation about the healing power of wilderness and following a shamanic path. Find more here: Her book Footprint of a Hea...
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13. Scarlett L. Heinbuch, PhD—NDEs, and the power of love

November 24, 2024 • 118 mins
Scarlett’s beautiful little book, We Met on the Other Side, tells a remarkable near-death experience story—one that will lift your heart. We explore her life and all the overlapping events and challenges that surround the NDE. She is a powerful psychic, a Reiki healer, and a champion for the power of love. Her website, linked HERE. Her book, linked HERE. Watch Scarlett’s talk at Rice University's 2023 Archives of the Impossible ...
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12. Sev Tok, a life of contact

October 29, 2024 • 111 mins
I met Sev at a conference in 2020 and saw her powerful presentation. She spoke about her contact experiences and how she worked to integrate them into her life, allowing her to follow a truer, more authentic path. I was struck by her clarity and hopeful outlook. She is a powerful voice within this community. This was a fun conversation, and we both laughed a lot. But we also ventured into into the deepest waters of this emotional ...
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11. Preston Dennett and Dolly Safran - Symmetry

September 30, 2024 • 83 mins
Author and researcher Preston Dennett talks about his most recent book, Symmetry. He shares the mic with Dolly Safran, who is at the center of this mind-bending story of UFO contact. Two people, each with a remarkable set of life experiences. Past lives, psychic knowing, OBEs, and an NDE—and so much more, including piloting a flying saucer! There is no way to sum up this breathtaking story in these meager show notes, so just liste...
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10. Red Pill Junkie and the role of the artist

September 15, 2024 • 95 mins
Red Pill Junkie is a pseudonym. Don’t tell anyone, but his real name is Miguel, and he lives in Mexico City. Like me, he's an illustrator and cartoonist. Miguel was involved with a remarkable project. He illustrated a set of Tarot cards, where the major arcana were represented by characters from UFO history. This project is at the heart of our conversation. We talk about creativity, and the role of the artist—and how synchronicity...
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9. Remembering Leo Sprinkle, with Katie Paige

September 8, 2024 • 88 mins
Dr. Leo Sprinkle holds an important place in the history of UFO research, and more importantly, he holds a place in my heart, and in the hearts of countless others who sought out his gentle guidance—this includes Katie Paige. Leo was our friend and mentor, and he passed away on November 15th, 2021. He was 91 years old. This show is dedicated to the memory of this remarkable, big-hearted soul. Katie wrote a book titled Letters of...
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